Could Josh Giddey Be Lonzo Ball 2.0?

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  • @BallGuy-pm8pz
    @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому +4

    What made Lonzo special?
    1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
    2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
    3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
    4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
    5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
    Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

  • @stubbysidwell
    @stubbysidwell 3 місяці тому +2

    I love watching some Giddey passing highlights. If he gets to passing from the peak of a jumpshot, and developes that 3ball, he's gonna be legit. Im excited to start watching these young Bulls get their wings.

  • @BallGuy-pm8pz
    @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому +2

    I would like to see Giddey and Zo on the court at the same time with long wings and running center. That to me is the best winning style for the Bulls. Even play one of them at small forward with maybe Coby at another guard position for scoring. But that will be the most exciting bb. With Giddey at 6'8 and Zo at 6'6, you could easily slide in Coby as a guard and not even notice there are 3 guards due to the height of Giddey and Zo. Then have some rim runners on the court with Zo and Coby making 3's. I hope the Bulls try it. I never seen PAW run the floor well but with Zo and Giddey you will easily get rebound for outlets. And this is the reason I wanted the Bulls to keep Zach. They will need a Zach type player and I'm hoping Matas can add. If Zo comes back healthy, he is also a running player who can receive passes for dunks. If they get Cooper next year, they will have it made for the future. Smart guards and forwards. BB is a high iq game and that's how you win. That's how the Lakers won with Magic back in the day. It running the ball and teams not able to keep up.

  • @MikeAllyOOP
    @MikeAllyOOP 3 місяці тому +2

    No. He’s not one defender or shooter that Lonzo is.. Ball doesn’t need the ball, Giddey apparently does..

  • @VincePipilas
    @VincePipilas 3 місяці тому +2

    most important ability is availability. Lonzo is like the walking dead.

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

  • @dionbamazing
    @dionbamazing 3 місяці тому

    Lonzo's Def an his court vision is special....we need to see him return before we make judgment

  • @donaldpriola1807
    @donaldpriola1807 3 місяці тому +1

    It's not even a valid comparison. Giddey isn't even close defensively to Ball, and not as good a shooter. Giddey isn't bad, either. He's just a different player. He's good with the ball, he's big, and he can see over a lot of guards. He needs to work on his shot most of all. Ball is likely either done, or at best coming off the bench.

  • @flashrufa6306
    @flashrufa6306 3 місяці тому

    As long. as the Bulls offence is constantly flowing, cutting, resetting in positions to become a threat. He has very good ways to get the ball to the right person.

  • @rock815town
    @rock815town 3 місяці тому

    Some of those things will translate the same way so in essence yes we do have the "pseudo Lonzo ball variant" but there are things that translate off the court for example Joshes legal issues we'll have some "ohms" but Lonzo ball has had a top tier supporting cast in the past even though his brother had legal trouble it never affected Lonzo career..... Hopefully everyone around the league can focus and maintain attention where it needs to be and where it benefits the Chicago bulls

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

    • @chibullspodcast
      @chibullspodcast  3 місяці тому +1

      Agreed . Off the court stuff didn’t result in much but I get your point

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@chibullspodcast Why haven't you answered the points I made? As a bb channel, I want you to go through 1 to 5. You can also youtube search any of the points I mentioned as the highlights are on yt. But read them carefully because Giddey's skills for me has nothing to do with off the court but on the court. I don't even think the off the court is fair to some degree as he was 19 and barely legal himself. It's not like some 40 year old man dating a 16 or 17 year old.

    • @VincePipilas
      @VincePipilas 3 місяці тому

      @@BallGuy-pm8pz he isn’t going to go through your comments and dissect your points. I read what you wrote and you made some valid points. He’s not going to write you back a essay on your comment trust me

  • @BallGuy-pm8pz
    @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

    Yes, availability is critical but an injury is an injury and that's against Zo. But skill wise. I like to see Giddey play defense and shoot 40% from 3's and play a winning style of bb that's not just about stat padding. Ben Simmons, who is also Australian, had that type of game in his first year with the Sixers and that's who I compare him to although Ben is bigger at 6'10 and a better defender too. I like to see Giddey defend the toughest opponents on the court like Zo did. Put him on Giannis and Power Forwards. See some of you are forgetful but that's how injuries occur, defending out of position. Giddey is 6'8 and bigger so he should be able to defend the bigger guys. Defend Giannis, defend Julius Randle. Don't hide him on defense.

    • @Àmuh312
      @Àmuh312 3 місяці тому

      Giddey on giannis is laughable

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@Àmuh312 He's tall enough.

    • @Àmuh312
      @Àmuh312 3 місяці тому

      @@BallGuy-pm8pz go watch a video on UA-cam titled “Patrick Williams is the most underrated defender” . After you watch it respond back. Patrick Williams is the guy you put on the best defender on opposing team not josh giddey. Cmon bro you can’t expect anyone to take you serious while claiming giddey should be guarding the Giannis’s of the league. Pure idiotic

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@Àmuh312 I said put Josh since they put Zo on every player. I'm saying this for those who say Giddey is Zo. Well put him on bigs to defend like they did with Zo.

    • @Àmuh312
      @Àmuh312 3 місяці тому

      @@BallGuy-pm8pz true

  • @alleycat5452
    @alleycat5452 3 місяці тому

    He gonna be better

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

  • @davidcooper5010
    @davidcooper5010 3 місяці тому

    Hopefully, Lonzo Ball will return and play well alongside Giddey. However, the latter is the long term play-maker of the Bulls.

    • @chibullspodcast
      @chibullspodcast  3 місяці тому

      I would imagine Lonzo would be coming off the bench. It would be interesting to see them both on at the same time tho

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@chibullspodcast I would like to see Giddey and Zo on the court at the same time with long wings and running center. That to me is the best winning style for the Bulls. Even play one of them at small forward with maybe Coby at another guard position for scoring. But that will be the most exciting bb. With Giddey at 6'8 and Zo at 6'6, you could easily slide in Coby as a guard and not even notice there are 3 guards due to the height of Giddey and Zo. Then have some rim runners on the court with Zo and Coby making 3's. I hope the Bulls try it. I never seen PAW run the floor well but with Zo and Giddey you will easily get rebound for outlets. And this is the reason I wanted the Bulls to keep Zach. They will need a Zach type player and I'm hoping Matas can add. If Zo comes back healthy, he is also a running player who can receive passes for dunks. If they get Cooper next year, they will have it made for the future. Smart guards and forwards. BB is a high iq game and that's how you win. That's how the Lakers won with Magic back in the day. It running the ball and teams not able to keep up.

  • @BLJTheGeneral
    @BLJTheGeneral 3 місяці тому

    I don't want a Lonzo Ball 2.0... I want a healthy Point Guard 3.0 (PTSD has wrecked me with D Rose and Lonzo).

  • @WilliamOwney
    @WilliamOwney 3 місяці тому

    All you people talking shit about giddy, he is a good player, the bulls have came up.

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden3045 3 місяці тому

    What?
    Have him play 30 games, his leg falls off and we never see him again?
    Sure it’s possible

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 місяці тому

      @@BallGuy-pm8pz
      He ain’t special
      Sorry
      The best ability is availability
      So yeah, giddy can have his leg fall off in the first 30 games, then for the next 3 years we can hear about how great he is and how he’s almost back
      Ball can GTFO and the sooner the better

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@lordrayden3045 You can't even go though each point because it's truthful. Yes, availability is critical but an injury is an injury and that's against Zo. But skill wise. I like to see Giddey play defense and shoot 40% from 3's and play a winning style of bb that's not just about stat padding. Ben Simmons, who is also Australian, had that type of game in his first year with the Sixers and that's who I compare him to although Ben is bigger at 6'10 and a better defender too. I like to see Giddey defend the toughest opponents on the court like Zo did. Put him on Giannis and Power Forwards. See some of you are forgetful but that's how injuries occur, defending out of position. Giddey is 6'8 and bigger so he should be able to defend the bigger guys. Defend Giannis, defend Julius Randle. Don't hide him on defense.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 місяці тому

      @@BallGuy-pm8pz
      “Skill wise” do t matter if he’s sitting on the bench …. Not even dressed for going on three years
      People say the Levine contract wa bad?
      This is worse

  • @jdh9676
    @jdh9676 3 місяці тому

    lol

  • @RoseBall-cv1bs
    @RoseBall-cv1bs 3 місяці тому

    This giddy guy is a joke he no lonzo

    • @johnbrennan4449
      @johnbrennan4449 3 місяці тому

      hopefully Giddey is not as injury prone as Lonzo.

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      @@johnbrennan4449 What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Lonzo was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

    • @TheCamagee
      @TheCamagee 3 місяці тому

      u a casual

  • @rjchi7317
    @rjchi7317 3 місяці тому

    Man yall really overrate lonzo ball

    • @BallGuy-pm8pz
      @BallGuy-pm8pz 3 місяці тому

      What made Lonzo special?
      1. Lonzo is a ball mover not just a stat padder or collecting assist by usage. Lonzo makes the hockey pass and he will never register an assist but it's a good bb play. I've seen him direct a pass for a 3rd pass already anticipating the next pass before it happens.
      2. Lonzo is an excellent transitional passer and he can make 1 pass off a rebound. If you ever view games with Zion, he made full court alley opps to Zion for dunks. Never seen anything like that.
      3. Lonzo always takes on the toughest players defensively. In fact, he was ranked at the top player in that category with the Bulls. I believe it's the reason he is hurt. The best block during that Bulls first half was a block Lonzo had head on with Isaiah Stewart's dunk at the basket. It wasn't from the side or from behind. It's face to face. Never seen a PG do that. That's a center. Zion was guarding power forwards at times like Giannis and Julius Randle and Kwahi, etc. With the Bulls the first half, Lonzo was averaging 2 steals and a block and would have been the 1st PG in NBA history to do so.
      4. Lonzo improved his 3 point shooting to around 40%, which is the number he also had at UCLA when he came out as the top 3 point shooter in his class. Most don't realize that.
      5. Lonzo has played with elite players and has picked their brains from Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and Lebron.
      Can Giddey get here? He will have to view the 5 things mentioned above. But I really like Giddey's game but I haven't seen it result in winning as Zo did with the Bulls.

    • @chibullspodcast
      @chibullspodcast  3 місяці тому

      @rjchi7317 elaborate on this

    • @rjchi7317
      @rjchi7317 3 місяці тому

      @chibullspodcast people put the wins and loses on lonzo but that wasn't the case. After lonzo got injured we had a 5 or 6 game win streak.The bulls was winning mainly bc the bulls was shooting amazing from 3pt line and we had a easy ass fuck schedule in the beginning. Plus we didnt start really losing until the schedule got harder and players came back to earth in terms of 3pt percentage.

    • @chibullspodcast
      @chibullspodcast  3 місяці тому +1

      @@rjchi7317 im still not seeing how we overrate lonzo when we see him as a 3&D player with great passing ability

    • @rjchi7317
      @rjchi7317 3 місяці тому

      @chibullspodcast I said it the first sentence. I love lonzo great defensive player. Great IQ. But people need to stop it with if lonzo was playing we would be good shit. We would be the same team Mediocre