Wait until Airier realizes we have a custom "O" flap for literally every speaking shot in the episode. Minor correction though - we've been doing it that way for the last bunch of episodes.
This kinda shit is why UBWA is in my top 2 favourite abridged, tied with Hellsing. So much effort to put into it to not just make it funny, but make it make sense while being hilarious.
@@TearsOfLa this is my #2 behind SAOA from Something Witty Entertainment. I think the main reason it doesn't overtake SAOA is because it's what introduced me to abridging so I have a notion of what I want out of an abridging that most others don't fall into.
i think it was less devestating and more suprising, since the kennedy think was just not thought about but the mordrid thing (sabers evtl son (i think it also depends on the depiction of the story, here i think it could e interpret with arthur/saber than accepting him as her son since in the fate canon both guinevier and arthur are girls) was just much more against what ariar was anticipating, the kenedy thing is just that that joke was got to make, maby a bit surprising since it wasnt anticipatet but it didnt go against his anticipation (i how its understandable what i tried to say, english isnt my first language) also, if i remember correctly, in the main part i got a depiction of arthurs story from, merlin, wich isnt really good as a source since many things were changed, mordrid wasnt even relatet to arthur so there im also a bit unsure in my knowlegde if it was really originally the child of guniver (or so) and one of the other roundtable knights or if i´m mixing up memories at that point
So for 31:47. A certain channel using PNG files has had Saber acknowledge Saber of Red as their son, and Ohhhh Boi. Was that also an outlier, also in that continuity, Archer tried to prosecute Shirou for being a Gacha addict
Archer is *not* Shirou moving through the routes, he is a very specific version of Shirou as described in this episode. A Shirou whose close to the Fate route but whose feelings for Saber were never returned.
@@clarisacalderon9555 If I remember correctly, in everything but HF, Shirou always has to have sex with the main girl of that route for the sake of a mana transfer so that said girl or Shirou himself in the case of UBW has more than enough Mana to properly fight and finish the war. Most likely, this wouldn't change in the Pseudo Fate Route that Archer EMIYA went through. However the context of it would. It would go from an event that both provides plot armor for the coming battle and allows Shirou and Saber to solidify their feelings for each other in a way that can't be denied to instead being more so just a pure business transaction. Well, kinda, the feelings were probably there for the both of them, but Saber probably never accepted them since she was too hung up on her own situation.
Yea the recent chapters of fate grand order seraph would have you singing a different tune especially when you figure out who EMIYA Alter killed in the timeline
@@Airiertrue also I just noticed this while watching your video and I've never noticed this but have you ever noticed the way Lancer dies in both bladeworks and the Dean animation actually reflects how Lancer dies in his own life Lancer dies to Gilgamesh during the Saber route by by fighting him off for 7 days just like in his myth how he fought Meb's army for several days but in unlimited blade works he supposedly 'dies' but gets up and stabs Kire when he approaches Rin who Lancer 'dies' right next to only to be killed by Lancer who he thought was dead and the process repeats with Shinji. This reflects how his body was treated and his original legend as after he tied himself to the stone with his own guts soldiers were too scared to approach him because they weren't sure if he was dead and when one soldier did he was surprised when Lancer killed him despite being 'dead' this terrified the soldier so much that they were too scared to even approach his corpse until they saw a raven land on his shoulder. Is this something common people notice I only did I've seen this video
And to be precise Archer originally made analogy that Shiro was Robin to his Batman and in previous episode he questioned if Robin had finally become Nightwing (which what Richard Grayson, the first Robin, became when he started his solo career as a superhero).
@Shadeius to be even more precise when Archer fought Caster Shirou said to Archer "you're like the Batman to my Robin dude" Then Archer after the fight said "maybe you are my Robin. You Do remind me a lot of Jason Todd" So its a bit of a recurring thing with them
@@hendeyjagger7489Originally, yes, but in episode 10 Archer compared him to nightwing because Dick is the one who takes issue with Batman being too dark, whereas Jason Todd is the opposite. Shirou is a lot more like Nightwing than Red Hood because he sees his future self (Archer/ Batman) and doesn't want to become as bitter as that person.
@@elmatador2139 ... doesn't Jason Todd become evil after getting his arm cut off by Prometheus, though? ... no, that's Roy Harper. Lian deserved better than getting merc'd by a Mary Sue of a villain. Cry for Justice can eat ALL of the bags of cocks... and so can the Editorializing cocks that demanded it be made...
Correction:this Archer is from the universe that is CLOSEST to the fate route.....the biggest difference from the fate route however is that archer failed to convince Saber to give up on the grail,she destroyes it anyway cuz it's corrupted and can't grand her wish in a satisfactory way but it also say's that the basement scene DIDN'T happened in his timeline so archer also didn't faced his trauma head on and in turn Saber didn't faced her's.....
25:35 It's not "This is a smart version of Shirou" Canon Shirou is actually pretty intelligent, he's smart enough to figure out Gilgameshes identity before anybody else in the Fate Route, and he explicitly knows that the name Angra Mainyu is from Zoroastrianism, it's just that his worst decisions make him seem dumber than he actually is, with only the context of the Anime Adaptations Shirou appears stupid, but in the Visual Novel it's made clear that his more illogical decisions are solely the result of his survivors guilt
@@Birdthefeatheredone Pretty much Shirou isn’t very wise (obviously because he’s still a teenager) but he’s got above average intelligence, I’d say probably 6 or 8 for Wisdom (if it can go that low) and 12-14 for Intelligence
Shiro's lines at the end were specifically a reference to his version of the aria. Which, at least in this case, does serve as a pretty good refutation of Archer.
Logan, the writer behind this has stated that this Archer is explicitly NOT Deen archer or Deen Shirou. He is the same archer recorded outside of space and time. He does not have memories from other routes, only his own life.
Hi. I'm that writer. This is correct. EMIYA is always the same EMIYA from the same starting point and isn't any version of Shirou we know. He's from his own Fate-like route.
Shirou is basically creating the Aria for his UBW chant at the end there, the order is a little shuffled, but the unique portion of his Aria is all there just waiting to be properly organized
The title of the episode is also a joke the ep 0 title was 'speak of the devil' (where we were introduced to Archer) and this episode where Archer identity is "revealed" is named 'and he shall appear' so a little joke about him being "Actually Satan" and the whole 'welcome to Hell' bit in the beggining is also a call back to Rin saying that his Reality Marble was Actually Hell back in one of the earlier episodes. (Sorry for the paragraph, just had a lot to say)
2:08 I mean Archer had a shield, as opposite of a sword as you can get, since the beggining. And Gil is an Archer who doesn’t even use a bow. Dictionary is more of a suggestion than a guideline in the Nasu-verse 31:36 Rin thought this was the best timeline for her but actually it was for Mordred. She finally got acknowledged by her father as her son.
This whole payoff is made all the more funnier with the knowledge that Shirou is also voiced by the guy who does Kirito in SAO abridged, because of the detective bit
@@Elseba921 Canon Shirou does do some smart observations which kinda foreshadow his relation to Archer. He also does snarky thoughts he keeps to himself which foreshadow his relation to the snarky older guy who doesn't care about being polite anymore.
5:50 The joke is earlier Archer called Shirou Robin, then a few episodes later asked "What... has Robin graduated to Nightwing and started taking issue with Batman's methods?" or something to that effect. Archer in this case being Batman.
@@yinyang452 More like retodd (in Countdown, Jason Todd wings Donna Troy with a bullet and she snaps at him saying "I was just fine until retodd shot me!")
03:32 😣 Ooh buddy…EMIYA Alter would like to have a word. When your life involves personally murdering several of those dearest to you, starting with Sakura, then progressing on to Rin and Illya, then finishing off with hundreds of innocent monks, among their number TAIGA AND HER SON, just to kill a Beast in the making…THAT’S when you’ve REALLY hit rock bottom…
I mean it could have been worse. I mean it’s not like he was summoned by a rogue moon A.I. only to realize said efforts were effectively worthless since said beast candidate somehow became a servant and fused with demonic entity and finally used by said entity. That would REALLY suck.
@@shootout-shinobi6672 Yeah hahaha… At least he managed to help stop her at the end of the event. And now she’s effectively neutered as a Servant of Chaldea. With Andersen keeping her in line.
@@noahweathers4408 um actually he did not even get to strike the finishing blow to Kiara when he was alive she unalived herself rather than allowing him the satisfaction of killing her
Archer is canonically from a world very close to the Fate route. Not 100% identical, but the main difference is that Archer Shirou wasn't quite as close to Saber. Its almost like if the Fate route had two endings and the one we got was the true ending but Archer got the normal ending. Its close enough that you can say that Archer's experiences match up to the experiences of a Fate route Shirou with deviations being rounding errors.
So if i remember the lore right, EMIYA/archer IS a recorded in the throne of heroes cause as he mentioned, he did die. Most people dont realize/forget he made his contract with alaya basically after/as he was dying, thus being eligible to be a Gaudian and servant. The real confusing part is fgo where he basically remembers his past summonings, so its like "??? okay youre chill and nice so we have to ASSUME you're from the UBW route" Then you have detroit EMIYA
His characterization in GO is almost entirely irrelevant to Stay night's continuity, but the reason for that is because counter guardians have personal temporal continuity. Normal Heroic Spirits are effectively copies of themselves printed from the same source code each time they're summoned, but counter guardians (who aren't recorded the same way) appear as their actual selves between summons without being reset. He also didn't make the pact while dying - he would have died had he not, but after making the pact he resolved the situation and lived an extensive life (20+ more years) before being executed. His role as a counter guardian didn't begin until he died (though, technically, it had already begun and was always in place from a certain point of view).
@@ProjectMouthwash so why does Saber remember the previous war in your version when talking about Kirizugu and Kirei? And why does she not seem to remember how Kiritsugu ordered her to destroy the Grail with Excalibur? And my memories might be not fully on point, but didn´t she witnes what Grail was before blowing it up?
The Nightwing joke @ 5:32 was a reference to when Shirou referred to himself as the Robin to Archer's Batman when they fought Caster the first time and continued when Archer said that he went from Robin to Nightwing in the last episode.
Shirou always seemed to have Survivor's Guilt with Savior's Syndrome, chasing Kiritsugu's dream trying to be happy enough to replicate that smile that was his first memory of his father.
Glad you like the flappies! it's lot of masks, tracking and colour correction like Logan said he gets us custom flaps for wherever we can squeeze them in! Gunna miss lancer ~
Counter Guardians were always heroic spirits. This was established as in the Fate/side material book which was released alongside the VN. Page 56. It explicitly names Counter Guardians as a variant of Heroic Spirit.
It really helps to rewatch all of the previous episodes before each new one. I’ve made it a tradition to do so, as a way to refresh my memory and just simply enjoy it.
45:08 Wrong, it always was a part of Shirou's character, in the Visual Novel it's extremely obvious Shirou has Survivor's Guilt even if it's never outright stated, I've read the VN at least 4 times already (Yes it's that much better than the Anime Adaptations) so I'd know if Shirou's Survivor's Guilt was something added later, it wasn't :V
You don't even need to read the vn to figure out that Shirou has a survivor guilt,you just need to watch the anime with open eyes to get it even if it's not outwordy stated (just like with archer being shirou from the future by the way)
31:55 To be fair, the 5th HGW (+HA) is probably the only timeframe in which Artoria can and would acknowledge the fact - specifically given that it's the one of the few, if not only, time she has the mindset of Artoria, and not that of King Arthur. (Kind of a major plot point of the Fate route, that.) 39:20 It is the Catholic Church (the Executors such as Ciel explicitly get their orders from the Vatican), but given that there's apparently no vows of celibacy for priests in the Nasuverse (cf the very existence of Carmen Ortensia), they might have slightly less problems with the adequate processing of sexual urges.
As a fun fact, Shirou's line "Even if my whole life becomes Unlimited Blade Works, Mine. Will be different than Yours." Is TRUE. ENTIRELY TRUE. The UBWs of Shirous who don't become a Killing machine like Archer all have a Clear Sky. Except Oath Under Snow, where it's an ever frozen hill of dead snow. Empty yet filled with graves Because that shirou has lost everything that would ever be seen over that freezing cold.
Archer thinks that he is "Batman", that is why he call Shiro "Nightwing" as in the fact that Nightwing ends up replacing Batman whenever Batman quote "disappears." And since one of the earlier episodes he calls Shiro "Robin" this would be the evolution of the character with training.
You know when you think about it, it's really more so Saber's Harem than Rin's Harem in the abridged cause most characters that met her love Saber apart from this version of Shirou, Kazuki, Scum, Lancer, and Gilgamesh
I mean it is canonical that everyone has the hots for saber (becuz shipping/fandom joke). But Rin is definitely the one getting a Harem. Even Lancer, in his final moments, starting hitting on/getting hit on by Rin a bit. I mean... it's like she said. "THIS IS THE BEST TIMELINE!"
shirou isn't quoting "the opposite of UBW" to be specific, he's quoting *his* version of UBW chant in english I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain. Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival. I have no regrets. This is the only path. My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works.
16:40 I've never really been sure if the whole Lancer's Gae Bolg penetrating Archer's Rho Aise was on purpose considering the age rating on the original VN or just a completely accidental set of innuendo.
The "that is why we are called that" is a reference to Gilgamesh calling shirou and archer "faker". Because in gils eyes they make knock of broken phantasms, yet in reality they make phantasms that can rival the quality of the original. Also, by archer not having his own phantasm, and instead copying other phantasms, as the one who owns all phantasms, gil believe them to be plagiarized versions of himself.
Broken Phantasms aren't copies of Noble Phantasms. A Broken Phantasm is specifically when you break a Noble Phantasm down into mana to use it once at a higher rank, destroying it in the process. Except in the cases where he does this, Archer's relicas are still Noble Phantasms.
@@ProjectMouthwash Isn't that the entire reason he could even take lives from Heracles in the Fate Route? He made his B Rank copies A Rank Broken Phantasms.
The funniest thing about his speech at 57:00 I brought this up in the original comments, but not here when it came out... If you listen carefully, you can hear UBW's version of the Oath starting to form during that speech, because just like how eachof them have their own oath formed by their own experiences, THAT SPEECH IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS HIS OATH! He doesn't have a grasp on it yet... But the fundamentals are there. It isn't until they're tempered by the memories and experiences of his older self through their fight that his oath takes a shape that can summon his inner world, and even then he's still physically unable (for now). I fully believe 'Stop, stop stop stop!' was in response to him hearing the beginning of that oath. I know that Archer said his story doesn't have any legend worth crystalizing, but what I think he fails to recognize is the fact that he has a legend or he wouldn't have been worthy of becoming a counter guardian, but he didn't need a weapon or tool to do it because everything that is HIS legend comes from HIM. It's arguable that maybe he was just slid in during the end of his age as 'The Last Heroic Spirit' (barring a certain other worldly force), but it's arguable that EMIYA has no noble phantasm because his Unlimited Bladeworks is capable of COPYING AND REPRODUCING NOBLE PHANTASMS. Something he does throughout the series on multiple occassions. Hell, he is able to reproduce one of the great shield noble phantasms as his own. And as one last final side... This whole Holy Grail War was broken from the beginning if you think about it. Heracles was the only properly summoned and used heroic spirit. Think about THAT for a second. The Archer was summoned improperly due to the previous Archer still being around AND because EMIYA exists at the same time as his past self causing... 'Interference'. Saber was summoned by Shirou who couldn't properly use her due to being an incidental master. Caster had moral objections to her master as well as being abused by them. Rider had... Shinji. And couldn't even survive on what power she had. Assassin was stolen by caster.And then we have lancer who was knee capped because he was incompatible with his master, as we were just told.
I have watched this episode an unhealthy amount of times. Only to watch it again on reaction channels. It finaly came full circle. Ep0: Speak The Devil's Name… Ep11: …And He Shall Appear
There's a pretty fun theory that the reason Archer gets so exasperated with everyone in UBW Abridged is that he's specifically from the official Fate/Stay Night route, not the abridged route. So not only is he fed up because things aren't playing out like he remembered, but also because people are acting a bit out of character.
@Airier So here is the cool thing about Archer. Because he has a reality Marble, EMIYA is able to store his memories in an alternate space each time he get summoned, so he's able to remember each instance of him being summoned to do things, whether that be as a Counter Gradian. By the time he shows up in UBW from his perspective thousands of Years of passed due to all the times he was summoned as a Counter Guardian. Normally that isn't a an issue with Heroic Spirits because they're just copies of the original, they don't retain any memories of the other times they've been summoned, but EMIYA is an exception to the rule because his ability is a thought construct. So the thing to remember Heroic Spirits they are can be summoned to any parallel universes as well, not just their own universe. The Archer that appears in UBW experienced the Fate Route as Shiro and Shiro's life thereafter. The Archer in Heaven's Feel has memories form the Unlimited Blade Works Route as Archer, and Shiro's memories of the Fate Arc. Last but not least the Archer from the Fate Route has Shiro's Memories of the Fate Route along with Archer's Memories of the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel Routes.
There are also two other Servants that carry over memories obviously so I'm addressing those real fast. During Fate/Stay Night Saber is a living Servant. Instead of being crystalized by the throne of heroes after death, she was instead offered by the grail to go fight in the Grail Wars while she was still alive. That's why she has memories of Fate/Zero during Fate/Stay Night. Gilgamesh remembers everything because he's been palling around with just the worst person in the world for 10 years since the previous Holy Grial war where he never died.
In cannon EMIYA is testing shiro to make him stronger in preparation for the future BUT also to see if his choice was the right one and that he will chose the same think even by knowing his future, that is way in the las episode of UBW when EMIYA retunes to his duties as a counter guardian he say he regret his choice but still it was the right choice to make.
I AM SO HYPED FOR THIS your reactions and projectmouthwash got me into the fate series, i watched some of the abridged and thought "hey this is looking really cool actually i should check it out" and now i think its one of my favorite series ever so to know they are finishing UBW and also doing Heavens feel (which i need to watch still) makes me EXTREMELY HAPPY thank you for introducing me to my favorite anime!
while it isn't stated often or even very loudly, it is canon that the reason Artoria didn't acknowledge Mordred as her son is because she didn't think Mordred was suitable as an heir to the throne (personally i headcanon that there was also probably some repressed trauma concerning how Mordred came to be). It was never a personal thing it was just another sacrifice made for britain.
I suspect she sort of used Mordred as an outlet for her own self-loathing. The real problem wasn't that the son was too different from the father -- rather that they were too similar.
5:47 they had a whole Robin/Batman conversation back in episode 4, witch Archer comparing to Batman and Shirou to Robin, so now I guess Robin's evolved
I have been aware of Fate Stay Night for years, and it's on my to watch list, but I haven't watched it yet. Came onto Project Mouthwash from Bleach Abridged, and the shorts from this made me decide to make THIS my first exposure to the series. This episode was MIND BLOWING!!!! I loved it! And yes, it was nice going back and seeing all the things that point to this, but never outright stating it, but that make SOOOO much more sense when you go back and rewatch it. Archer didn't care when Rider made her move, because the original Archer wasn't needed for that fight. Tiny little things like that make this series SO wonderful!! ❤❤❤
I was waiting for this reaction! 😂😂 Knowing this was coming out I rewatched all the other episodes before watching this one, a lot of the jokes you didn’t get or understand were call backs to previous episodes.
I actually did ask if they intended for the DEEN anime to be Archer's original timeline (which is like the Stay/Night route but different), but they said it would not work canonically and they only used the DEEN footage because it's the only animated representation of the Stay/Night route.
Also? As someone whose first intro to Fate was the Studio DEEN series? I hate that people rag on the animation which STILL HOLDS UP. Sure, they made some oddball creative choices to weave in some things from UBW(namely Archer USING UBW) and HF(nearly outright stating that Sakura was Rin's sister), but it wasn't as bad as people make it. And frankly, the music in that series is so good that Project Mouthwash keeps using it throughout UBW Abridged.
Well first of all it's just doesn't hold up,JUST NO!Second:i don't even want to remember the scene with Sakura in BDSM costume........Nasu has a taste with Saber those guys just doesn't....Sakura wasn't practically present she was just possessed by Caster so there wasn't even any conflict between sisters ....also Shirou projecting Avalon and deflecting enuma elish back at Gilgamesh was GOT DAMN CRINGE,i guess DEEN Shirou could just kil Gilgamesh practically but he fley away he didn't wanted to be clapped......yes Archer fight with Berserker and second fight of Saber vs Sasaki was pretty good but it's not worth it.....
"it stores everything I see, with the aspect of being a sword and prepares it" hes not saying "I copy only swords" hes saying "I translate everything into swords"
@@flallana18 you're missing the point, its not "I make a world that copies swords" its "I make a world that copies anything that can be converted into a sword in terms of purpose" in other words any weapon (the purpose of a sword)
A spear is a sword on a long stick. A very wide sword can be a shield. A dagger is a small sword. An arrow has very small sword blades. If it isn’t already a sword, just ascribe the concept of sword into it.
Project Mouthwash doesn't get enough attention for how good their abridged series are. I consider them as one of the best three abridged channels along with Something Witty and Team Four Star. And the whole bit with Archer's World War references reminds me a lot of SAOA's bit where Kayaba constantly made movie references.
This might sound weird to you but i just realised the reason i find your reactions super entertaining is cause the way you talk is the way i think, so it felt super familiar 🤣
I think shipping is a problem whenever it gets to be where you shove it down someone's throat or just be dick to someone because you don't like their ship. Looking at you certain folks in the hoyo/fate/other communities. It can be cool if its just cute and for fun, but there is always those who take it too seriously. I love how when it comes to the big reveal Shirou actually figured it out, or at least suspected so far back from the berserker fight. Yet they still make him a little...dense or slow when it comes or slow on other stuff. Also I think its clear that this version of Archer, while similar to fate route Shirou, is still not the same because he doesn't get Saber to love him. He probably did go through the Fate route as Archer which is why he does remember it and kind of does the same thing the archer in his story did.... I think, heroic spirits are weird. You can tell Logan had a lot of fun putting all the major lore drops when it comes to Fates concepts and archers dialogue. then they just threw us that lines about archer and Kennedy, it was hilarious. Honestly i can't wait for the next episode, your reactions are great too.
Archer is basically a variation who couldn't save Artoria's heart and in turn couldn't save himself because without Artoria to confront him on his own issues he never self reflected.
Honestly, I kinda wish we did get those, except Illya's that'b be beyond gross to put it mildly, given how the smallest changes like Shirou simply walking Sakura home makes the events change drastically, really makes me wonder what would happen if like Shirou actually accepts to team up with Shinji instead of Rin and whatnot.
Personal aria My life is a forge, Existence the fuel, To craft armour ments that pierce beyond the limits of infinity is the oath i make, So as i wander this weary road shackled by the choice i made, my spirit ignites with, Eternal Reckless Forgeries.
Also, the other reason Kirei forcing Lancer to do the Mario Mario bit makes sense in retrospect is to tie into what this episode said, that there are certain things the Grail wouldn't deem necessary for servants to know, so the only reason he would know that bit is 1. he had watched the movie after being summoned, or 2. as we see, his "master" forced him to do it as a bit for his amusement.
Personally I've always viewed UBW as Archer rigging the thing that no one important dies if Shirou proves that he's "strong" (wrong word for it but I cant think of anything better). Because I cannot look at the end of UBW and think that the fact that all the pieces are on the board in the exact right spot to kill Gilgamesh is not him, their fight is basically a training round! At least that's how I view it.
i think we believe the man arthur based on was a general in roman empire.. who pushed the celts out of most england (which was england, irland, scotland, and walles) his name was lucious arthorious... there was alot of stories that did not survived about him and we dont know when it became from a general to a king.. what i do know is the first book about king arthur called arthur the great / the big and written around the 12 centuary since then by rolling storytelling they created allthe knights, the kingdom and the tailored story we bearely knows today
Also the Nightwing joke is because Nightwing started resenting bats and started doing his own thing in bloodhaven and by own thing i mean the exact same thing batman does but with a much cheerier disposition and smiling
While Cu might not be at Her, id give Bazette a good chance at taking out Ilya while Cu stalled for time. Gil would be hard if only because Kirie could hold his own. 🤔
Gil wouldn't be an issue if the HGW was going as intended. But yeah Bazette is at least able to fight weak servants, plus she can use Fragarach... Only human able to use a noble phantasm besides shirou, and hers is the real deal
Like you, I would also like to voice my approval for Shinji's voice actor. I suspect it takes a great actor to craft someone so utterly detestable and still keep them funny.
So, to be clear, Archer doesn't come from any route that has been depicted, in the game or anime adaptations. He comes from his own route that is very similar to the base Fate route, but with the exception being he never helped Saber move on from her wish, and she in turn never returned his feelings. This is still true in Abridged series and can be gleamed by Archer's narration not matching up with the DEEN shows plot (and changes made in the anime).
Nightwing (Grayson) is Batman(Bruce)'s adopted son. He trained Grayson. And when Batman is not in Gotham for a long time for a reason, Grayson (Nightwing) uses Batman identity to patrol and watch over the Gotham city (because Batman's existence scares criminals). Grayson is a family of Bruce but they also fight and love each other equally type? So yeah, Nightwing is Batman as well. It's clear that when Bruce dies, Grayson will take on the Batman mantle. Bruce himself says that Grayson is him(Bruce himself) but better and good because Bruce is kinda in the grey zone while Grayson is genuinely a good person. So Archer is refering himself as Batman and Shirou as Nightwing.
29:45 King Arthur never existed, because the armor they wear, and the century in which "King Arthur" who could have created the legend of "King Arthur of Camelot" could exist are too much incompatible, while in the Fate multiverse he existed, but there are several different depictions, and yes, the first version of King Arthur in Fate was actually a young man and not a young girl.
Btw, we're definetly doing HF after UBW.
Don't mind me. Just gonna go scare my cats by laughing like a madman to celebrate the news. :)
wait, what's HF? not that deep into fate, tbh.
@@cobraglatiatorheavens feel there are three story paths in fate stay night, basic fate route, unlimited blade works and finally heavens feel
@@cobraglatiatorheaven's feel.
@@Luca-Nox right, thanks.
Wait until Airier realizes we have a custom "O" flap for literally every speaking shot in the episode. Minor correction though - we've been doing it that way for the last bunch of episodes.
Funnier thing, he acknowledged it back in the episode with Gilgamesh vs Heracles
He just forgot probably
... Uh , I didn't forget. I was just... Ummm, Testing them?
Yes. I was just testing everyone. I definitely didn't forget completely or anything. 😶😅
24:50
The entire time. We've had this roadmap since before episode 0.
And thats why we love it so much!
Good God I respect you guys even more now
This kinda shit is why UBWA is in my top 2 favourite abridged, tied with Hellsing. So much effort to put into it to not just make it funny, but make it make sense while being hilarious.
@@TearsOfLa this is my #2 behind SAOA from Something Witty Entertainment. I think the main reason it doesn't overtake SAOA is because it's what introduced me to abridging so I have a notion of what I want out of an abridging that most others don't fall into.
Amazing. Well played.
The fact that "I killed my son!" is more devastating to him than "I killed Kennedy." is funny-
i think it was less devestating and more suprising, since the kennedy think was just not thought about but the mordrid thing (sabers evtl son (i think it also depends on the depiction of the story, here i think it could e interpret with arthur/saber than accepting him as her son since in the fate canon both guinevier and arthur are girls) was just much more against what ariar was anticipating, the kenedy thing is just that that joke was got to make, maby a bit surprising since it wasnt anticipatet but it didnt go against his anticipation (i how its understandable what i tried to say, english isnt my first language)
also, if i remember correctly, in the main part i got a depiction of arthurs story from, merlin, wich isnt really good as a source since many things were changed, mordrid wasnt even relatet to arthur so there im also a bit unsure in my knowlegde if it was really originally the child of guniver (or so) and one of the other roundtable knights or if i´m mixing up memories at that point
Ikr.
So for 31:47. A certain channel using PNG files has had Saber acknowledge Saber of Red as their son, and Ohhhh Boi. Was that also an outlier, also in that continuity, Archer tried to prosecute Shirou for being a Gacha addict
Archer is *not* Shirou moving through the routes, he is a very specific version of Shirou as described in this episode. A Shirou whose close to the Fate route but whose feelings for Saber were never returned.
This. EMIYA is always the same EMIYA and it's never a Shirou we know.
didn't he imply he they have sex or something though in the shed?
@@clarisacalderon9555 Yeah, Nasu confirmed that EMIYA's timeline is a slightly modified Fate Route, but he failed to win Saber's heart.
@@clarisacalderon9555 i mean......just because you have a sex with a woman doesn't mean she loves you.....
@@clarisacalderon9555 If I remember correctly, in everything but HF, Shirou always has to have sex with the main girl of that route for the sake of a mana transfer so that said girl or Shirou himself in the case of UBW has more than enough Mana to properly fight and finish the war. Most likely, this wouldn't change in the Pseudo Fate Route that Archer EMIYA went through. However the context of it would. It would go from an event that both provides plot armor for the coming battle and allows Shirou and Saber to solidify their feelings for each other in a way that can't be denied to instead being more so just a pure business transaction. Well, kinda, the feelings were probably there for the both of them, but Saber probably never accepted them since she was too hung up on her own situation.
"Archer is the absolute worst run where everything went wrong" EMIYA Alter isn't real, he can't be hurt in this reality.
Yea the recent chapters of fate grand order seraph would have you singing a different tune especially when you figure out who EMIYA Alter killed in the timeline
EMIYA ALTER - Somehow the worst timeline for an EMIYA
Part of me is scared to ask, the other part is begging to hear it
@@tetragaming6332 He killed Taiga because she joined Kiara's Cult.
EdgeMiya really had it the roughest
You missed the part where Lancer told the runestone to find the greatest source of sass present.
... I'm actually disappointed myself from missing that one. That's a good line.
Greatest source of (s)ass
@@Airiertrue also I just noticed this while watching your video and I've never noticed this but have you ever noticed the way Lancer dies in both bladeworks and the Dean animation actually reflects how Lancer dies in his own life Lancer dies to Gilgamesh during the Saber route by by fighting him off for 7 days just like in his myth how he fought Meb's army for several days but in unlimited blade works he supposedly 'dies' but gets up and stabs Kire when he approaches Rin who Lancer 'dies' right next to only to be killed by Lancer who he thought was dead and the process repeats with Shinji. This reflects how his body was treated and his original legend as after he tied himself to the stone with his own guts soldiers were too scared to approach him because they weren't sure if he was dead and when one soldier did he was surprised when Lancer killed him despite being 'dead' this terrified the soldier so much that they were too scared to even approach his corpse until they saw a raven land on his shoulder. Is this something common people notice I only did I've seen this video
I think it was mistaken if it hit Shinji
The nightwing joke is because archer made an analogy with himself as batman and shiro as nightwing in the previous episode
And to be precise Archer originally made analogy that Shiro was Robin to his Batman and in previous episode he questioned if Robin had finally become Nightwing (which what Richard Grayson, the first Robin, became when he started his solo career as a superhero).
@Shadeius to be even more precise when Archer fought Caster Shirou said to Archer "you're like the Batman to my Robin dude"
Then Archer after the fight said "maybe you are my Robin. You Do remind me a lot of Jason Todd"
So its a bit of a recurring thing with them
@@Shadeiushe reminded him of Jason Todd
@@hendeyjagger7489Originally, yes, but in episode 10 Archer compared him to nightwing because Dick is the one who takes issue with Batman being too dark, whereas Jason Todd is the opposite.
Shirou is a lot more like Nightwing than Red Hood because he sees his future self (Archer/ Batman) and doesn't want to become as bitter as that person.
@@elmatador2139 ... doesn't Jason Todd become evil after getting his arm cut off by Prometheus, though? ... no, that's Roy Harper. Lian deserved better than getting merc'd by a Mary Sue of a villain. Cry for Justice can eat ALL of the bags of cocks... and so can the Editorializing cocks that demanded it be made...
Correction:this Archer is from the universe that is CLOSEST to the fate route.....the biggest difference from the fate route however is that archer failed to convince Saber to give up on the grail,she destroyes it anyway cuz it's corrupted and can't grand her wish in a satisfactory way but it also say's that the basement scene DIDN'T happened in his timeline so archer also didn't faced his trauma head on and in turn Saber didn't faced her's.....
25:35 It's not "This is a smart version of Shirou"
Canon Shirou is actually pretty intelligent, he's smart enough to figure out Gilgameshes identity before anybody else in the Fate Route, and he explicitly knows that the name Angra Mainyu is from Zoroastrianism, it's just that his worst decisions make him seem dumber than he actually is, with only the context of the Anime Adaptations Shirou appears stupid, but in the Visual Novel it's made clear that his more illogical decisions are solely the result of his survivors guilt
This is why Wisdom and Intelligence are different stats in DND.
@@Birdthefeatheredone Pretty much
Shirou isn’t very wise (obviously because he’s still a teenager) but he’s got above average intelligence, I’d say probably 6 or 8 for Wisdom (if it can go that low) and 12-14 for Intelligence
@@Birdthefeatheredone Also Shirou just naturally has 20 Charizzma
@@jaydenlobbe7911 I would argue he has 12 wis, and 16 int. unfortunately due to his luck he has barely rolled over 10 this whole game.
@@phantoknight34 Still got 20 Charizzma
Shiro's lines at the end were specifically a reference to his version of the aria. Which, at least in this case, does serve as a pretty good refutation of Archer.
Logan, the writer behind this has stated that this Archer is explicitly NOT Deen archer or Deen Shirou. He is the same archer recorded outside of space and time. He does not have memories from other routes, only his own life.
Hi. I'm that writer. This is correct. EMIYA is always the same EMIYA from the same starting point and isn't any version of Shirou we know. He's from his own Fate-like route.
@@ProjectMouthwash hence the chapter name, "The Fate Route... kinda"
Shirou is basically creating the Aria for his UBW chant at the end there, the order is a little shuffled, but the unique portion of his Aria is all there just waiting to be properly organized
"Welcome to Hell", from actually Satan.
Lancer had the best lines in the show. "Battle continuation, bitch!" "Yorokobe, Kirei" "I finished my nap". he did deserve better.
My favorite part about all this is the revelation that all of Cu Culan’s nonsense is due to kirei abusing his absurd amount of command seals
The title of the episode is also a joke the ep 0 title was 'speak of the devil' (where we were introduced to Archer) and this episode where Archer identity is "revealed" is named 'and he shall appear' so a little joke about him being "Actually Satan" and the whole 'welcome to Hell' bit in the beggining is also a call back to Rin saying that his Reality Marble was Actually Hell back in one of the earlier episodes. (Sorry for the paragraph, just had a lot to say)
2:08 I mean Archer had a shield, as opposite of a sword as you can get, since the beggining.
And Gil is an Archer who doesn’t even use a bow. Dictionary is more of a suggestion than a guideline in the Nasu-verse
31:36 Rin thought this was the best timeline for her but actually it was for Mordred. She finally got acknowledged by her father as her son.
I bet Gil has his prototype sword bow in his treasure.
@@jaieregilmore971 Sure. But he also has a ton of swords, spears, magic staffs and veichles.
This whole payoff is made all the more funnier with the knowledge that Shirou is also voiced by the guy who does Kirito in SAO abridged, because of the detective bit
Also, the command seals joke with Kirei feels like some kind of joke we'd get if Project Mouthwash made a Zero abridged
Izzy now goes by his real name so just say YamatoSFX
@@Elseba921 Canon Shirou does do some smart observations which kinda foreshadow his relation to Archer. He also does snarky thoughts he keeps to himself which foreshadow his relation to the snarky older guy who doesn't care about being polite anymore.
5:50 The joke is earlier Archer called Shirou Robin, then a few episodes later asked "What... has Robin graduated to Nightwing and started taking issue with Batman's methods?" or something to that effect. Archer in this case being Batman.
"You know what, maybe you are my Robin. You do remind me a lot of Jason Todd."
@@yinyang452 More like retodd (in Countdown, Jason Todd wings Donna Troy with a bullet and she snaps at him saying "I was just fine until retodd shot me!")
03:32 😣 Ooh buddy…EMIYA Alter would like to have a word.
When your life involves personally murdering several of those dearest to you, starting with Sakura, then progressing on to Rin and Illya, then finishing off with hundreds of innocent monks, among their number TAIGA AND HER SON, just to kill a Beast in the making…THAT’S when you’ve REALLY hit rock bottom…
I mean it could have been worse. I mean it’s not like he was summoned by a rogue moon A.I. only to realize said efforts were effectively worthless since said beast candidate somehow became a servant and fused with demonic entity and finally used by said entity.
That would REALLY suck.
@@shootout-shinobi6672 Yeah hahaha…
At least he managed to help stop her at the end of the event. And now she’s effectively neutered as a Servant of Chaldea. With Andersen keeping her in line.
@@noahweathers4408 um actually he did not even get to strike the finishing blow to Kiara when he was alive she unalived herself rather than allowing him the satisfaction of killing her
@@thatlat5831 that was just one of the nails in the coffin. The fact that he didn’t get punished for what he did was what finally did him in
Archer is canonically from a world very close to the Fate route. Not 100% identical, but the main difference is that Archer Shirou wasn't quite as close to Saber. Its almost like if the Fate route had two endings and the one we got was the true ending but Archer got the normal ending.
Its close enough that you can say that Archer's experiences match up to the experiences of a Fate route Shirou with deviations being rounding errors.
3:27 Airier:i am pretty sure archer is the worst run of Shirou Emiya Emiya alter:hi!👨🏿
That manga man...
So if i remember the lore right, EMIYA/archer IS a recorded in the throne of heroes cause as he mentioned, he did die. Most people dont realize/forget he made his contract with alaya basically after/as he was dying, thus being eligible to be a Gaudian and servant.
The real confusing part is fgo where he basically remembers his past summonings, so its like "??? okay youre chill and nice so we have to ASSUME you're from the UBW route"
Then you have detroit EMIYA
His characterization in GO is almost entirely irrelevant to Stay night's continuity, but the reason for that is because counter guardians have personal temporal continuity. Normal Heroic Spirits are effectively copies of themselves printed from the same source code each time they're summoned, but counter guardians (who aren't recorded the same way) appear as their actual selves between summons without being reset.
He also didn't make the pact while dying - he would have died had he not, but after making the pact he resolved the situation and lived an extensive life (20+ more years) before being executed. His role as a counter guardian didn't begin until he died (though, technically, it had already begun and was always in place from a certain point of view).
@@ProjectMouthwash so why does Saber remember the previous war in your version when talking about Kirizugu and Kirei? And why does she not seem to remember how Kiritsugu ordered her to destroy the Grail with Excalibur? And my memories might be not fully on point, but didn´t she witnes what Grail was before blowing it up?
The Nightwing joke @ 5:32 was a reference to when Shirou referred to himself as the Robin to Archer's Batman when they fought Caster the first time and continued when Archer said that he went from Robin to Nightwing in the last episode.
Shirou always seemed to have Survivor's Guilt with Savior's Syndrome, chasing Kiritsugu's dream trying to be happy enough to replicate that smile that was his first memory of his father.
Glad you like the flappies!
it's lot of masks, tracking and colour correction
like Logan said he gets us custom flaps for wherever we can squeeze them in!
Gunna miss lancer ~
Even that description alone sounds like a stressful amount of work. 😮
Still hoping for "ghost lancer."
😁
11:35 the .1% was a jab at FGO gotcha rate @Airier lol
I'm making a distinct effort not to understand this comment. 😅
It would have been like 0.7% if they were taking a job at FGO though.
makes you want to rewatch the entire series just for seeing the call backs again.
I'm holding off until the final episode. Just going to make it one hell of a stream to wrap up the entire run.
Counter Guardians were always heroic spirits. This was established as in the Fate/side material book which was released alongside the VN. Page 56. It explicitly names Counter Guardians as a variant of Heroic Spirit.
It really helps to rewatch all of the previous episodes before each new one. I’ve made it a tradition to do so, as a way to refresh my memory and just simply enjoy it.
Saaaame
45:08 Wrong, it always was a part of Shirou's character, in the Visual Novel it's extremely obvious Shirou has Survivor's Guilt even if it's never outright stated, I've read the VN at least 4 times already (Yes it's that much better than the Anime Adaptations) so I'd know if Shirou's Survivor's Guilt was something added later, it wasn't :V
You don't even need to read the vn to figure out that Shirou has a survivor guilt,you just need to watch the anime with open eyes to get it even if it's not outwordy stated (just like with archer being shirou from the future by the way)
31:55 To be fair, the 5th HGW (+HA) is probably the only timeframe in which Artoria can and would acknowledge the fact - specifically given that it's the one of the few, if not only, time she has the mindset of Artoria, and not that of King Arthur. (Kind of a major plot point of the Fate route, that.)
39:20 It is the Catholic Church (the Executors such as Ciel explicitly get their orders from the Vatican), but given that there's apparently no vows of celibacy for priests in the Nasuverse (cf the very existence of Carmen Ortensia), they might have slightly less problems with the adequate processing of sexual urges.
Kirei himself has a daughter, and *had* a wife, before he found out just how much he likes murder with said wife.
As a fun fact, Shirou's line "Even if my whole life becomes Unlimited Blade Works, Mine. Will be different than Yours." Is TRUE. ENTIRELY TRUE.
The UBWs of Shirous who don't become a Killing machine like Archer all have a Clear Sky.
Except Oath Under Snow, where it's an ever frozen hill of dead snow. Empty yet filled with graves
Because that shirou has lost everything that would ever be seen over that freezing cold.
Its more acurate to say EMIYA is Shirou from a failed Fate route. One he did mostly right, but failed to romance Saber.
Project Mouthwash did a big mic drop for this episode, bravo
Archer thinks that he is "Batman", that is why he call Shiro "Nightwing" as in the fact that Nightwing ends up replacing Batman whenever Batman quote "disappears." And since one of the earlier episodes he calls Shiro "Robin" this would be the evolution of the character with training.
You know when you think about it, it's really more so Saber's Harem than Rin's Harem in the abridged cause most characters that met her love Saber apart from this version of Shirou, Kazuki, Scum, Lancer, and Gilgamesh
Rin's the one getting all the tail, not Saber.
I mean it is canonical that everyone has the hots for saber (becuz shipping/fandom joke). But Rin is definitely the one getting a Harem. Even Lancer, in his final moments, starting hitting on/getting hit on by Rin a bit. I mean... it's like she said. "THIS IS THE BEST TIMELINE!"
shirou isn't quoting "the opposite of UBW" to be specific, he's quoting *his* version of UBW chant in english
I am the bone of my sword.
Steel is my body and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand blades.
Unaware of loss,
Nor aware of gain.
Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival.
I have no regrets. This is the only path.
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works.
16:40 I've never really been sure if the whole Lancer's Gae Bolg penetrating Archer's Rho Aise was on purpose considering the age rating on the original VN or just a completely accidental set of innuendo.
Just a coincidence. The idea is 'unstoppable spear against unbreakable shield'.
The Nightwing reference refers to the last episode where Archer makes a Batman vs Nightwing metaphor between him and Shirou.
The "that is why we are called that" is a reference to Gilgamesh calling shirou and archer "faker". Because in gils eyes they make knock of broken phantasms, yet in reality they make phantasms that can rival the quality of the original. Also, by archer not having his own phantasm, and instead copying other phantasms, as the one who owns all phantasms, gil believe them to be plagiarized versions of himself.
Broken Phantasms aren't copies of Noble Phantasms. A Broken Phantasm is specifically when you break a Noble Phantasm down into mana to use it once at a higher rank, destroying it in the process. Except in the cases where he does this, Archer's relicas are still Noble Phantasms.
I mean that doesn't change that its also an in-joke for the abridged that hes making fun of the series name.
@@ProjectMouthwash Isn't that the entire reason he could even take lives from Heracles in the Fate Route? He made his B Rank copies A Rank Broken Phantasms.
The funniest thing about his speech at 57:00 I brought this up in the original comments, but not here when it came out... If you listen carefully, you can hear UBW's version of the Oath starting to form during that speech, because just like how eachof them have their own oath formed by their own experiences, THAT SPEECH IS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS HIS OATH! He doesn't have a grasp on it yet... But the fundamentals are there. It isn't until they're tempered by the memories and experiences of his older self through their fight that his oath takes a shape that can summon his inner world, and even then he's still physically unable (for now). I fully believe 'Stop, stop stop stop!' was in response to him hearing the beginning of that oath.
I know that Archer said his story doesn't have any legend worth crystalizing, but what I think he fails to recognize is the fact that he has a legend or he wouldn't have been worthy of becoming a counter guardian, but he didn't need a weapon or tool to do it because everything that is HIS legend comes from HIM. It's arguable that maybe he was just slid in during the end of his age as 'The Last Heroic Spirit' (barring a certain other worldly force), but it's arguable that EMIYA has no noble phantasm because his Unlimited Bladeworks is capable of COPYING AND REPRODUCING NOBLE PHANTASMS. Something he does throughout the series on multiple occassions. Hell, he is able to reproduce one of the great shield noble phantasms as his own.
And as one last final side... This whole Holy Grail War was broken from the beginning if you think about it. Heracles was the only properly summoned and used heroic spirit. Think about THAT for a second. The Archer was summoned improperly due to the previous Archer still being around AND because EMIYA exists at the same time as his past self causing... 'Interference'. Saber was summoned by Shirou who couldn't properly use her due to being an incidental master. Caster had moral objections to her master as well as being abused by them. Rider had... Shinji. And couldn't even survive on what power she had. Assassin was stolen by caster.And then we have lancer who was knee capped because he was incompatible with his master, as we were just told.
The Nightwing joke is a callback to the repeated Batman and Robin jokes they made throughout the series.
I have watched this episode an unhealthy amount of times. Only to watch it again on reaction channels. It finaly came full circle. Ep0: Speak The Devil's Name… Ep11: …And He Shall Appear
Shirou's survivor's guilt was a very explicit and exposed part of Shirou in Visual Novel, it just didn't get adapted well in anime
12:50
Shirou Emiya contradicting himself? Well, that's a first.
There's a pretty fun theory that the reason Archer gets so exasperated with everyone in UBW Abridged is that he's specifically from the official Fate/Stay Night route, not the abridged route.
So not only is he fed up because things aren't playing out like he remembered, but also because people are acting a bit out of character.
Clicked on the video so fast just to see this man’s reaction to the full picture that this abridged has place all the effect into preparing
The nightwing joke was a call back to archer saving shiro from caster and shiro calling him the Batman to his robin
@Airier So here is the cool thing about Archer. Because he has a reality Marble, EMIYA is able to store his memories in an alternate space each time he get summoned, so he's able to remember each instance of him being summoned to do things, whether that be as a Counter Gradian. By the time he shows up in UBW from his perspective thousands of Years of passed due to all the times he was summoned as a Counter Guardian. Normally that isn't a an issue with Heroic Spirits because they're just copies of the original, they don't retain any memories of the other times they've been summoned, but EMIYA is an exception to the rule because his ability is a thought construct.
So the thing to remember Heroic Spirits they are can be summoned to any parallel universes as well, not just their own universe.
The Archer that appears in UBW experienced the Fate Route as Shiro and Shiro's life thereafter. The Archer in Heaven's Feel has memories form the Unlimited Blade Works Route as Archer, and Shiro's memories of the Fate Arc. Last but not least the Archer from the Fate Route has Shiro's Memories of the Fate Route along with Archer's Memories of the Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel Routes.
There are also two other Servants that carry over memories obviously so I'm addressing those real fast.
During Fate/Stay Night Saber is a living Servant. Instead of being crystalized by the throne of heroes after death, she was instead offered by the grail to go fight in the Grail Wars while she was still alive. That's why she has memories of Fate/Zero during Fate/Stay Night.
Gilgamesh remembers everything because he's been palling around with just the worst person in the world for 10 years since the previous Holy Grial war where he never died.
6:46 Literally when you have, "Harem Protagonist EX" so your other self doesn't quite know what route the world's on now.
@50:28 If they don’t flitter away, they’re A okay, LOL
4:27 and thats the joke 😂 he's a caster summoned as an archer and fighting as a saber 😂😂😂😂
Shirou said he was the Robin to Archer's Batman a few episodes back. Nightwing is a grownup version of the first robin who became his own hero
Cu is Lawful Neutral, not Chaotic Good. Objectively. They actually give servants canon D&D alignments. Lawful Neutral is his.
In cannon EMIYA is testing shiro to make him stronger in preparation for the future BUT also to see if his choice was the right one and that he will chose the same think even by knowing his future, that is way in the las episode of UBW when EMIYA retunes to his duties as a counter guardian he say he regret his choice but still it was the right choice to make.
I AM SO HYPED FOR THIS
your reactions and projectmouthwash got me into the fate series, i watched some of the abridged and thought "hey this is looking really cool actually i should check it out" and now i think its one of my favorite series ever so to know they are finishing UBW and also doing Heavens feel (which i need to watch still) makes me EXTREMELY HAPPY
thank you for introducing me to my favorite anime!
while it isn't stated often or even very loudly, it is canon that the reason Artoria didn't acknowledge Mordred as her son is because she didn't think Mordred was suitable as an heir to the throne (personally i headcanon that there was also probably some repressed trauma concerning how Mordred came to be). It was never a personal thing it was just another sacrifice made for britain.
I suspect she sort of used Mordred as an outlet for her own self-loathing. The real problem wasn't that the son was too different from the father -- rather that they were too similar.
5:47 they had a whole Robin/Batman conversation back in episode 4, witch Archer comparing to Batman and Shirou to Robin, so now I guess Robin's evolved
I have been aware of Fate Stay Night for years, and it's on my to watch list, but I haven't watched it yet. Came onto Project Mouthwash from Bleach Abridged, and the shorts from this made me decide to make THIS my first exposure to the series.
This episode was MIND BLOWING!!!! I loved it! And yes, it was nice going back and seeing all the things that point to this, but never outright stating it, but that make SOOOO much more sense when you go back and rewatch it.
Archer didn't care when Rider made her move, because the original Archer wasn't needed for that fight. Tiny little things like that make this series SO wonderful!! ❤❤❤
I was waiting for this reaction! 😂😂
Knowing this was coming out I rewatched all the other episodes before watching this one, a lot of the jokes you didn’t get or understand were call backs to previous episodes.
Welll remember how the Iranian president die? Yeah…that maybe Archer
I actually did ask if they intended for the DEEN anime to be Archer's original timeline (which is like the Stay/Night route but different), but they said it would not work canonically and they only used the DEEN footage because it's the only animated representation of the Stay/Night route.
allso love how shirou and kirito abridged (being the same voice actor) and he got to cook so danm well
the Nightwing joke is a continuation of the jokes from past episodes where Archer and Shirou compare each other to Batman and Robin
the nightwing ref. is a call back to an earlier episode shirou and archer are at ryudo temple fighting medea
Also? As someone whose first intro to Fate was the Studio DEEN series? I hate that people rag on the animation which STILL HOLDS UP. Sure, they made some oddball creative choices to weave in some things from UBW(namely Archer USING UBW) and HF(nearly outright stating that Sakura was Rin's sister), but it wasn't as bad as people make it. And frankly, the music in that series is so good that Project Mouthwash keeps using it throughout UBW Abridged.
Well first of all it's just doesn't hold up,JUST NO!Second:i don't even want to remember the scene with Sakura in BDSM costume........Nasu has a taste with Saber those guys just doesn't....Sakura wasn't practically present she was just possessed by Caster so there wasn't even any conflict between sisters ....also Shirou projecting Avalon and deflecting enuma elish back at Gilgamesh was GOT DAMN CRINGE,i guess DEEN Shirou could just kil Gilgamesh practically but he fley away he didn't wanted to be clapped......yes Archer fight with Berserker and second fight of Saber vs Sasaki was pretty good but it's not worth it.....
"it stores everything I see, with the aspect of being a sword and prepares it" hes not saying "I copy only swords" hes saying "I translate everything into swords"
Technically it’s more like “I don’t copy and recreate swords, I make a world that copies and recreates swords”
@@flallana18 you're missing the point, its not "I make a world that copies swords" its "I make a world that copies anything that can be converted into a sword in terms of purpose" in other words any weapon (the purpose of a sword)
A spear is a sword on a long stick. A very wide sword can be a shield. A dagger is a small sword. An arrow has very small sword blades.
If it isn’t already a sword, just ascribe the concept of sword into it.
Yo. Creator here. He's saying it copies and prepares things that are swords.
Archer: *Throws a violin* This, too, is a sword!
Project Mouthwash doesn't get enough attention for how good their abridged series are. I consider them as one of the best three abridged channels along with Something Witty and Team Four Star. And the whole bit with Archer's World War references reminds me a lot of SAOA's bit where Kayaba constantly made movie references.
Love how the noted unlike everyone else that the sword in the stone is Caliburn and NOT Excalibur.
An excellent exposé for those not fully in the know on undertones and commentary.
Talking about a Seven Year Pay Off: The episode title is also a callback.
Ep 0. - Speak the Devil's Name
Ep 11. - And He Shall Appear
32:30 I guess this is case when answer "Yes" will be actually correct
14:33 - You are not wrong about that. UNFORTUNATELY.
I'm holding out hope that in Sakura's final appearance, she reminds him that little girls can carry big knives. Just sayin'. 😸
This might sound weird to you but i just realised the reason i find your reactions super entertaining is cause the way you talk is the way i think, so it felt super familiar 🤣
I think shipping is a problem whenever it gets to be where you shove it down someone's throat or just be dick to someone because you don't like their ship. Looking at you certain folks in the hoyo/fate/other communities. It can be cool if its just cute and for fun, but there is always those who take it too seriously.
I love how when it comes to the big reveal Shirou actually figured it out, or at least suspected so far back from the berserker fight. Yet they still make him a little...dense or slow when it comes or slow on other stuff.
Also I think its clear that this version of Archer, while similar to fate route Shirou, is still not the same because he doesn't get Saber to love him. He probably did go through the Fate route as Archer which is why he does remember it and kind of does the same thing the archer in his story did.... I think, heroic spirits are weird.
You can tell Logan had a lot of fun putting all the major lore drops when it comes to Fates concepts and archers dialogue. then they just threw us that lines about archer and Kennedy, it was hilarious.
Honestly i can't wait for the next episode, your reactions are great too.
Archer is basically a variation who couldn't save Artoria's heart and in turn couldn't save himself because without Artoria to confront him on his own issues he never self reflected.
Fun fact, there was supposed to be a Rider route, Illya route, and most shocking of all, there was supposed to be a Shinji Route in the original game.
Honestly, I kinda wish we did get those, except Illya's that'b be beyond gross to put it mildly, given how the smallest changes like Shirou simply walking Sakura home makes the events change drastically, really makes me wonder what would happen if like Shirou actually accepts to team up with Shinji instead of Rin and whatnot.
Dude this series and you are reason i got into the Fate rabbit hole knew nothing of it beforehand
... Depending on if you got into FGO too, I might need to apologize to your wallet. 😅
Personal aria
My life is a forge,
Existence the fuel,
To craft armour ments that pierce beyond the limits of infinity is the oath i make,
So as i wander this weary road shackled by the choice i made, my spirit ignites with,
Eternal Reckless Forgeries.
Also, the other reason Kirei forcing Lancer to do the Mario Mario bit makes sense in retrospect is to tie into what this episode said, that there are certain things the Grail wouldn't deem necessary for servants to know, so the only reason he would know that bit is 1. he had watched the movie after being summoned, or 2. as we see, his "master" forced him to do it as a bit for his amusement.
Personally I've always viewed UBW as Archer rigging the thing that no one important dies if Shirou proves that he's "strong" (wrong word for it but I cant think of anything better). Because I cannot look at the end of UBW and think that the fact that all the pieces are on the board in the exact right spot to kill Gilgamesh is not him, their fight is basically a training round! At least that's how I view it.
In a previous episode there was a Batman-Robin/Nightwing analogy. its a callback to that
i think we believe the man arthur based on was a general in roman empire.. who pushed the celts out of most england (which was england, irland, scotland, and walles) his name was lucious arthorious... there was alot of stories that did not survived about him and we dont know when it became from a general to a king.. what i do know is the first book about king arthur called arthur the great / the big and written around the 12 centuary
since then by rolling storytelling they created allthe knights, the kingdom and the tailored story we bearely knows today
35:11 this is why he gets off on what he does to Sakura
I mean, Nightwing DID become Batman at times, like took up the mantle when Bruce was dead/displaced in time
The Night wing joke was a reference for one of the earlier jokes in a previous episode
Also the Nightwing joke is because Nightwing started resenting bats and started doing his own thing in bloodhaven
and by own thing i mean the exact same thing batman does but with a much cheerier disposition and smiling
THIS IS HOW I'M FINDING OUT THAT THE NEXT EPISODE IS OUT!?!
It's surprising how many times I've actually heard people mention this. Either way, glad people find out about the original episode. It was great!
@@Airier UA-cam just refuses to give me all the notifications for some dang reason when with the bell set to All
Every time a new UBW comes out two great things happen. The episode comes out and you react to it 😊❤
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38:46 Wait, you mean the *live action* Mario movie from the 90's?! Oh, crap, that does make sense.
Ya know if it was an actual HGW like it was intended to be performed I thin Cu and Bazette would have wiped everyone. Except maybe Heracles
While Cu might not be at Her, id give Bazette a good chance at taking out Ilya while Cu stalled for time.
Gil would be hard if only because Kirie could hold his own.
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Gil wouldn't be an issue if the HGW was going as intended. But yeah Bazette is at least able to fight weak servants, plus she can use Fragarach... Only human able to use a noble phantasm besides shirou, and hers is the real deal
16:46 At least they pronounce Gae Bolg correctly, unlike the Studio Deen adaptation of UBW where it was "GAE BULGE" and "RAW ASS"....
You basically summarized how i felt
Like you, I would also like to voice my approval for Shinji's voice actor. I suspect it takes a great actor to craft someone so utterly detestable and still keep them funny.
So, to be clear, Archer doesn't come from any route that has been depicted, in the game or anime adaptations. He comes from his own route that is very similar to the base Fate route, but with the exception being he never helped Saber move on from her wish, and she in turn never returned his feelings. This is still true in Abridged series and can be gleamed by Archer's narration not matching up with the DEEN shows plot (and changes made in the anime).
Nightwing (Grayson) is Batman(Bruce)'s adopted son. He trained Grayson. And when Batman is not in Gotham for a long time for a reason, Grayson (Nightwing) uses Batman identity to patrol and watch over the Gotham city (because Batman's existence scares criminals). Grayson is a family of Bruce but they also fight and love each other equally type? So yeah, Nightwing is Batman as well. It's clear that when Bruce dies, Grayson will take on the Batman mantle. Bruce himself says that Grayson is him(Bruce himself) but better and good because Bruce is kinda in the grey zone while Grayson is genuinely a good person. So Archer is refering himself as Batman and Shirou as Nightwing.
This episode of UBW Abridged was 🔥🔥🔥
29:45 King Arthur never existed, because the armor they wear, and the century in which "King Arthur" who could have created the legend of "King Arthur of Camelot" could exist are too much incompatible, while in the Fate multiverse he existed, but there are several different depictions, and yes, the first version of King Arthur in Fate was actually a young man and not a young girl.
In the topic of the past being an anime, to be specific it was a fantasy anime that was secretly a Mecha/Gundam anime.