Thanks for sharing, diesel's are becoming the rich mans truck these days. To complicated and to much matinence = more possible issues and costs. I'm going back to gas myself.
I think a LOT of people are feeling and thinking the same way, $10k upgrade, then "do I pay thousands more to delete" or "when do I have to pay thousands to fix emissions?" "When will the fuel system fail?" After any of that you pay a lot for the supposedly better truck.
Great video man! I’ve got a 2020 2500 hd with the 6.6 gas. When I bought it I figured it would be just fine towing my travel trailer and I’d upgrade in a couple years to a diesel. After 10k miles my fuel mileage increased from 15mpg to 17mpg. Towing my 6500lb TT with roughly 2k worth of tools etc for work I see 9-10mpg. I think it’s a much more capable truck than I expected and can’t say I’ll be getting a diesel down the road. The 6.6 gas is pretty impressive. I added a flowmaster 50 series hd muffler also and I think it helps as my 50 mile average best went to 18.5mpg. And it’s not obnoxiously loud.
@@benca6151 we've driven ours pulling that camper from mn to the black hills a couple times and it does just fine I haven't had any complaints getting rid of diesel. My neighbor bought a 2021 duramax with this cold weather. Already had to replace a tank cause of heater issues.
Excellent video! I traded my Ruby Red 3 stage paint 2015 Ford F250 Lariat Diesel Crew Cab for a Shadow Gray 2020 Chevy 3500 LTZ Crew Cab 6.6L gasser in March, 2020. There is no comparison. The steering and handling of the Chevy is light years better than the Ford. I am not knocking the Ford as it is a good truck, just not as up to date. I did not think that I needed the diesel as I pull a 30' foot travel trailer. I may actually trade in for a 33' 5th wheel as the Chevy has the 5th wheel prep package. The Ford would be over loaded for a 5th wheel with under 2,000 lbs of payload. I do miss the exhaust brake and diesel fuel mileage. I am not a fan of the new Ford aluminum bodies. The Chevy bed is awesome! I recently got 19.0 mpg not towing while traveling from home through the back roads to the campground at the Jersey shore.
Nice video. I have the 2022 Denali Gas HD. I get a lot of compliments but then they always end it with saying it’s not a diesel. Ridiculous to have a diesel just to say you have one. Traded a 2019 F250 diesel for it. It was way more truck than needed. I’m in Texas. Flat for the most part. I have no livestock. I have a KZ camper and it’s about 8000 pounds. Way more than enough truck. I’m not in the habit of wasting money. Great video.
This is the video I’ve been looking for! Pulling the trigger on a bigger truck soon going from a 2015 Sierra slt to a 3500 to pull my current 8000lb(full load) camper. I’ve been wanting a duramax if ever we upgrade the trailer to a fifth wheel but watching your video with this truck it’s hard to really justify the extra 10k, the extra filters on a diesel, just the overall regular maintenance of a diesel is hard to justify if it’s not “worked everyday” as you said. Thank you again for the informative video, makes the decision a bit easier! Cheers, from Alberta, Canada
I like diesels mostly for the way they sound, but also I like their towing capabilities. Diesels are awesome but they cost ridiculous amounts of money. The Chevy V8 has a nice strong and masculine purr to it.
We opted for the gas version 4 yrs ago (2014 GMC 2500) due to all the maintenance cost issues just to keep it on the road compared to the ease of gas and haven't regretted it for a minute. Of course were weekend warriors not full timers so thanks for video for when I upgrade pretty soon..
Glad I saw your video! We also live in MN and have been going back in fourth regarding gas or diesel. We recently ordered a ‘22 GMC 3500 AT4 gas and you set our mind at ease.
In reality, how fast do you need to go with really heavy loads? Seems you are easily maintaining the speed limits with little effort on the trucks part. Seems like a win win. Nice truck!
Definitely no need to go fast! For me It gives a bit more confidence to be able to get up to speed on the interstate or pass easily, as well as the exhaust brake is awesome. All this being said I’ve towed more with the old 6.0 gasser then I have diesel as far as time in seat, and I went and bought a gasser for myself, it does fine but you know a trailer is there and it isn’t effortless, but it goes better then my 1994 Cummins does(fairly stock don’t crucify me)
Just put an order in today for a 3500 dually 6.6 gas. Really excited because I’ve been overweight with my 2011 1500 that’s definitely done well with my 5th wheel. You’re video shows how good the 6.6 is and it’s not a neck snapper, but a good pulling engine.
I wound up canceling it in February and bought a 2016 Sierra 3500 gas dually at a good price with 30,000 miles. I’m glad I did due to the strike and slow delivery process since we’re moving next month.
@@patrickdunster1083 I see. If you’re in a time crunch definitely gotta do it. But also you can’t go wrong with that 6.0 they used in that generation. Historic engine
We drive up there all the time for wheeling trips. Love the area! We have a Ram 3500 long box 6.4L hemi and love it over the diesel as we are not going cross county either.
I have two gassers a 6.0 in a 2500 Chevy and 8.1 in a 3500 Chevy. Believe me the 8.1 will pull with 455 lbs of toque. I would buy the 6.6 gas over the Duramax. . The 8.1 is a proven long lasting engine. Because the 8.1 is a big block with a longer stroke then the 6.6 small block , I think the 8.1 would out last the 6.6 . I have 250,000 miles on my 8.1 and the engine runs like a new one. If the 6.6 holds up even close to the 8.1 it a good buy.
I think ya made the right choice 👌i got an LML and some days i wish it was a gasser. Looks like that setup tows much better than previous 6.0s. just hope it has reliability of the 6.0
Just watched you video... Have pretty much the same truck (engine) 2500. Funny I have exactly the same BEST as you, 18.4... Live in Utah, a Lil higher elevation but im happy with this truck too... So far!
Crazy I have a 12k toy hauler and I always just assumed I needed diesel. I had a lml Duramax and now a 6.7 stroker. Crazy now I can skate by with a gasser with those weights.
McCuck81 Agreed; my last truck was a mint condition 1997 F350 with a 5-spd & 460 big block, which some people seem to cream their jeans over. In reality, it was an absolute dog turd.
Thanks for the honest review---I’m looking for a gas truck - I tow under 10,000 - buying def and fuel additives is getting old and my warranty runs out next year
I tried out a 22 silverado 2500 I liked the engine I pulled a 9 k trailer and load in hilly terrain ,it pulled the girls good and the gas mileage age was not bad , around 16 empty ,but I hated the brakes you had to push hard and if you drove another vehicle afterwards you were slamming the brakes ,and the steering was loose it wandered around ,The dealer said it was ok so I said by to it .
I guess anything over 3000 lb your supposed to have trailer brakes. I guess I wouldn't pull my 13000 lb toy hauler with no trailer brakes. I guess if my trailer brakes didn't work on my camper. I would have to push harder that's common sense. What isn't common sense is towing a trailer of 9k with trailer brakes not set up right.
I just got a 2500 custom and I'm hoping the fuel economy will improve when I get a few more miles on it. Best I got was only 14Mpg. I only have 600 miles on it.
we're not pulling your weight, but about 8K. Bought a 2024 6.6 with a 10 speed Allison. It tows nice. I have no comparison to Duramax, but I can tell you with that lighter 5th wheel, you really dont know its there.
I'd imagine winter blend gas hurts the towing mpg somewhat. I took my 18 F250 6.2L gasser and my 34ft 11k lb 5ver from Chicago to Tucson and back in September. No issues at all even up the 7,500 ft mountain pass. I would short fill a few stops if I could find a Loves truck stop they make it real easy to get 5vers into the gas lanes on the ends.
@@stricklyq5613 most new truck stops have plenty of room. I know I'm good for 200-250miles range so I use the rvparkey app to find my fuel stops. Then use google streetview to see the setup. Some loves have a dedicated rv/motorhome gas island.
Cool! Cruising around Akeley! I think that I might recognize your voice. I'm Tom's friend Mick. Tom grew up in Akeley. We ride dirt bike together there.
Jackass 16:21 lol. Great vid I have a ‘22 Sierra 2500 gasser on order. I considered a Ford 7.3 but it’s a hefty priced option for only a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque than the 6.6. and to boot I want nothing to do with that 10 speed trans. Very educational vid for me thank you for uploading.
That 10 speed is great, and more importantly than an additional 11lb.ft. is where the power is applied. Larger displacement engines will naturally make power lower in the RPM range, where trucks can use it the most.
@@Icutmetal both engines peak torque is the same 4000 rpm. I am a loader operator for a Copart yard and get a lot of real world feedback from auto haulers on what’s good and what’s not. The 6.6 gas/6 speed combo has been nothing but positive. Haven’t seen a single Ford 7.3/10 speed yet, nothing but diesel. I personally know 2 people just in my little circle that are having some funny shifting issues with their 10 speed trans, one in a 1/2 ton and one in a 3/4. Perhaps the haulers are getting the same feedback. Naturally this just puts a bad taste in my mouth. This is just my own experience I know everyone has a preference.
The ten speeds like to run WAY warmer than most with the ULV fluid. Factory spec is 210-215, but they don't red line till past 260. They are a bit rougher when cold, so the first few minutes feel more like the six speed, but they are pretty darn smooth when near or at operating temp. 197 looks too cool for me lol. Mine is in a Ford, but it's the same transmission and same fluid, just different bellhousings and shift profiles for the different torque curves. Ford runs a water to fluid cooler/warmer. I'm not sure what the GM setup is on the 10 speeds. I would assume it would be similar to drop costs with suppliers.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I have a similar setup with the 2020 AT4, and am pulling a 30' TT. My truck did come with the trailering package, so I installed the TTPMS sensors, and then purchased the programmer to set them up. You briefly mentioned in your video possibly getting and installing these. That said, its been my experience with these that the trailering software doesn't seem to save the programmed results, so every time I hook up the trailer I have to reprogram them. Safe travels...
Just ordered a 2022 GMC 6.6 Gas crew cab 4X4. Tried both diesel and gas, gas won out for me. Dual wheels. Few techy options, no hight tech garbage. We only intend to vacation three or four times a year, not full time. We ordered a 3000lbs non-slide camper to haul in the bed. No intention of towing anything behind. You ever weighted just the truck on the scales to get payload figure?
Thanks for the info I have a 2016 Denali 3500 Duramax....actually the longest I have kept a truck in 20 years I use the truck to tow snowmobiles to our property in Northern VT so DEF fluid and fuel issues always on my mind, looking hard at the 6.6 gas. I have had 4 Dmaxs over the years so it tough
It was for me too. 4 def tanks in 3 years was kinda my breaking point. Plus weighed the how much we pull to empty, I now when we retire and become some what fill time RV'ers I'll more than likely go back.But in 18 years who knows what will be out there for pickups. If they could ever get the battery thing figured out could you imagine the instant high torque and hp of electric.
Not sure why you'd even bother with diesel if all you're towing is snowmobiles. My 4-place 24' aluminum covered snowmobile trailer was light enough to be carried by a Tacoma. If you even had 8 sleds in a long 29' trailer you'd be barely at 7,500 - 8,500 lbs. That's well within the range of a half ton gas truck even.
I don’t by Duramax trucks to tow a snowmobile trailer, I buy them because there trade values hold better here in New England and I trade often. Out of about 15 GM trucks over the last 20 years only 2 have been half tons and I lost interest fast...I prefer my Denali 3500 even to pick up groceries
@@truckingoover because you can I wish the trade in value was true around here you go to a dealership there's 15 used diesels on the lot market is saturated in the midwest
When someone gets a gas truck they will justify in their minds and seek that they made the right choice. Having owned both, diesel is the best option for fuel economy, longevity and enjoyment of driving/owning. The maintenance is not a big deal as I do it all myself and who needs emissions?
I did my own maintenance myself. If you need a diesel get one. But there are other ways of pulling a camper for the weekend warrior that won't break the bank. If your using a diesel for what they are truly intended for then I agree. I have made the right choice I saved 10,000 dollars and get the job done. If I was retired and traveling the country constantly yes I would own a diesel. But I don't need one because I do 2 big trips a year and a few weekend trips. Haven't needed a diesel.
I worked at a fleet manager office and I can tell you, all the emissions problems are because the entire industry is using 2 sensor providers and they keep failing...they realized they make a killing on failing parts and no one will change how they do things. We are all switching to the gas ! Now we don't have a chevy contract but on a personal question , how them front seats? i hear some mixed feelings on em for long rides?
I like your truck however I personally want more truck than I need. It seems under powered to me. I say smaller lighter camper or diesel. Thanks for the video..
For the transmission as you said cooler is better, but normal operating temp is generally 175+\- 25°F. Around 225° I md start to get a little concerned and usually anything about 230° is when you’re rapidly wearing parts and varnishing fluid. Contrary to popular belief it’s better to slow down to keep air flow to the cooler or stop the vehicle but leave it running to circulate fluid and allow the transmission to cool off.
In the middle of summer I have never went above 208. And Iam talking ambient air temp of 98 to 103 in SD in the mountains if your seeing those Temps your thermostat might be sticking
@@stricklyq5613 yes that can contribute or cause high transmission temps especially if you don’t have an external transmission cooler and are relying on coolant and a small cooler in the radiator. However shifting excessive amounts on grades/stop and go traffic, or excessively heavy loads while towing and climbing grades will cause very high transmission temps as well as having fluid that is varnished and not cooling as well already. That being said I have never had trans temps above 210° while towing on any of my personal trucks. My uncle tuned the 2.7 eco boost in his ford (downloaded a bad tune with horrible shift points) and his trans got to 230° towing my boat, we pulled over set it to stock and let it idle to cool off, the transmission didn’t go past 207° pulling the boat for 2 hours. Along with that I had to build the “Twin disc” brand true automatic transmissions in a Union Pacific semi a few years ago (divorced transmissions connected by a torque tube) and the freeze frame data at point of failure was 250°+ and they were completely smoked and had blown a ton of fluid through the vents.
I think it will be a good motor. Nothing wrong with larger displacement but then you start burning way more fuel. I think the manufacturers see what's going to happen with the $10,000 upgrade and the emissions crap and cost to fix it.
@@stricklyq5613 on that 7.3 i am concerned there will be head gasket issues. The cylinder to cylinder face looks as if it visually is .125" or so. I wouldn't be surprised if they develop gasket issues in a couple years down the road. Now the 6.6 has a nice meaty gasket support from cylinder to cylinder. I want reliability and to me Ford has great motor engineers and that motor's bottom end is awesome 6-bolt mains. I just can't get over the fear on leaking getting a motor that needs head gaskets often an potential milling on decking
I did not . I have checked it on a flat level area it squats down 1.5" past level it rides awesome. I have never believed in air bags adds stress where it isn't needed.
I guess I was a mechanic for 15 yrs I would say transmission goes out 80% of the time before the engine. I typically trade every 4 to 5 yrs. I'll have less maintenance costs can't go by fuel costs right now, They are the same where we live iam averaging 8 mpg towing with gas diesel I was around 10. I don't rod on crap I pull I think it would last a long time
It is a 6l90e. One of hell of a transmission. My family owns and operates a transmission repair shop and vouch for the 6l90e. I got a 6l90e in my Cadillac CTS-V running 700+ hp through it at 50,000 miles and never had an issue with it.
LTZ premium 2 package z71. I have the puck system as my camper is converted to a gooseneck. Now the package doesn't have heated rear seats and half the stuff might not work cause of chip shortage. I paid $52000. I was going to order a new one with the 14% increase this year that same truck 69 to 72 they won't guarantee price till ship invoice comes in.
Mine did when I was pulling hard say running 75 80 mph. Burned about a quart every 3000 miles. In the first 20000 miles seems to have subsided now. Not pulling anything it didn't burn oil. Have 52000 on mine now.
It's a gas truck for one pulling a 14,000 lb trailer which it does very well. If u look at later video about finally going on a long trip avg around 8. With my 16 diesel I never got above 10.5.
@@stricklyq5613 your pulling a 14000 pound trailer and it’s not a dually? Truck and trailer don’t match unless you pulling around town every blue moon..... I get 15 miles to gallon pulling a 44ft fifth wheel granted my f450 is deleted and breathes extremely well.... I pull my enclosed trailer with my gasser and it eats gas like crazy especially if any type of hill but I would never pull 14000 pounds with my gasser.... stoping power is not there tranny shifts too much.... no engine braking and bumper trailer is no where near stable as my dually..... and another thing I had trailer brakes go while hauling a lighter back hoe about 13000 pounds guess what I didn’t even notice it with my f450 any gasser dude would be on skates but it could happen you could lose connection or trailer brakes and that single wheel gasser is toast I would stay around 9/10 pounds on a gasser unless the f350 dually....... and I had a lot of towing done around PA Pittsburg area I took on the hill on rt40 there which is extreme with my fifth wheel and f450 didn’t even downshift dude lol build boost and truck did all the work easily my gasser wouldn’t even attempt no where near that type of hill
@@spin0491 it handles just fine. Have pulled it all over went to deadwood from MN in the mountains 10 hours. Pulls it great at 65 mph. As far as the dually comment have never felt like I needed it. Before this truck i had a srw diesel pulled the same 38 ft camper to Florida didn't need a dually. I guess I spent alot less than you and didnt have to delete anything to get down the road. Did you watch the other video where I explained the transmission. I'd use this truck to pull camper to Florida. U can brag about your mpg. It had to be deleted to get that and maybe not. Shifting it really doesn't shift alot. Oh ya my plug did lose connection coming out of deadwood into sturgis down the mountain no trailer breaks transmission took care of it just fine touched the brakes twice. Thanks for your comments iam sure your combo is awesome
@@stricklyq5613 well I mean if you tow every now and then that’s cool but towing 14000 often like every week would have stayed diesel because the motor and tranny setup doesn’t strain/struggle near as much because of the more than double the torque which is what people who tow heavy really care about....but if you tow camper every now and then that should be fine.....and yes of course I wanted to delete my diesel because unfortunately the government has put all this crap on diesel to choke them out.....again if I tow 14000 quite often any diesel will out perform and in the long run actually last longer there’s a reason why all your big machinery your trains/boats/excavators all run diesels because you can push a diesel hard or actually not have to and it can handle heavy loads way better than gas engine for extended periods of time....again small loads occasional big load go gas outside of that diesel unless you lease and don’t plan on keeping the truck long because that’s what most people do when they are towing over the trucks limits stupid stuff start to brake cause it’s straining!!
The Ford 7.3 is an extra hefty cost option , is mated to a less proven trans., and only produces a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque than the 6.6. which comes standard. Not my opinion it’s facts, look it up.
Coming from a lifelong Ford guy…..the 7.3 is a $$$ option, only rated a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque, and the GM 6L90E trans is much more proven than the 10 speed. The reason I just ordered a GMC 2500 gasser.
Some people are just plain keyboard retards. Gm gas engines are rock solid from a 4.3 to a 7.4 5.3 to a 8.1 and now these new 6.6 gas engines. I’m completely impressed with the review and the handling of 14-15k lbs behind it. I want an engine I can do things with and hear and that’s not possible w a new L5P dmax. 2500-5k to delete it 10k extra on the sticker price it just doesn’t make sense anymore. I’d like to see how that truck of yours does running interstate to Florida empty far as mpg. I’ve had lb7s lbz lmm and 8.1s and 6.0s the last 15yrs and an 8.1 is hard to beat. Not quite the mpg empty but towing it’s rock solid at 8-10mpg. Gm might be onto something with this new 6.6
I have almost exactly the same truck as yours except mine is 2500HD LT 6.8' bed with gas. I get 19MPG empty. I drive safely; I don't tailgate; I coast to the red light. I tow a 5000-5500 lbs travel trailer at max 65-70 MPH and get average 9-11 MPG. I would love to have a diesel, but it's just not worth the money what I tow.
Sounds very similar to my 2018 1500 with the 5.3 Ecotec. I get 16-18 average empty, towing an 8k lb camper trailer with bumper hitch the 5.3 gets 9-11mpg depending on speed, 9 at 70-75mph, 11 at 55-60mph. But I have been eyeing those new 6.6 gassers to get more payload.
Thanks for a real world test I'm going full time in a truck camper. Was going back and forth between gas and diesel being that it is going to be my home I think I should go gas much more reliable and alot I can fix myself know nothing about diesels
GM fan myself but was disappointed that they only come out with a 6.6litre from the old reliable 6.0. Hopefully they make a big block. Pull a 35' 5th wheel with a 2005 chevy 2500HD 6.0 gasser for years and miles. 7-8 MPG, And that's all its been used for pulling the camper. For the price of a new one I can buy a lot of gas and even a new motor if needed, if my 6.0 ever wears out. 127000 miles on it so far. Might not get to the campground as quick but who cares im camping just leave a little earlier. I'm a heavy hauler truck driver, wish I could go 80 up a hill loaded with my semi.
Thanks sharing. We recently purchased a 9000lbs camper and my 2014 1500 wasn't real happy after a hard driving season so i got a 2020 2500hd and haven't actually been down the road with it . Now I'm pretty excited, should be fantastic for my application.
I got a 2022 2500 gas. Biggest mistake ever with vehicle purchase. Had it 30 days and traded it for 2022 2500 diesal. I get 11.2 average towing my 11k camper. And 19 to 21 mpg when not with the diesel. Compared to 8.0 mpg towing with the gas. And 16 to 18 when not. Not to mention diesel is WAY more stable. If you're doing +10k towing get a diesel.
@@curtis1951 its poo, unloaded on the freeway doing 60ish (it has a 4l85e trans) i get just shy of 11 mpg. It uses premium unleaded so add that to the headache. I just bought a 19 duramax and I get almost 20 mpg from it. I still have the 8.1. We probably will never sell it
I own a Chevy 2004 3500 crew cab long bed 4x4 with the 8.1 (496) it says to use regular gas, I have tried putting premium gas in it, it didn't make any difference on fuel mileage or power. So I only burn regular gas to save money. I wanted the gas to save money on repairs. I would just have to hate to think about spending 5 to 10 thousand dollars in repairs. I did my research the 8.1 is pretty much bulletproof. I can buy a brand new 8.1 motor for $4,900. or a good used low mileage for about $2,400 . My 8.1 has a Allison 5 speed transmission and 4.10 gears . 330 hp and 440lbs of toque . It will pull anything I need. Which is my tractors the heaviest is 9,600 lbs and loads of round bales of hay on a 24 ft gooseneck trailer that weighs at 5,250 lbs. It may be old school in fuel mileage it get 6.5 mpg fully loaded and 11 mpg empty on the highway , empty around home and town 8.5 to 9 mpg . I agree with all the reasons to go with the gas engine. If I bought a new truck 2021 it would be the 6.6 gas. But I had read that Chevy and GMC will be coming out with another big block gas motor in the very near future. Probably to compete with the new Ford big block gas 7.3 which is getting good reviews. I have seen serval gas 6.6 Chevy 2500 and 3500 trucks around my area . Everyone seems to be happy with them.
Cool video, thanks for posting. I’ve had my 2020 HD with the new 6.6 since August and I’m really impressed with it. It is a big upgrade from the old Vortec 6.0.
Curious what your feelings on where it is better than the 6.0? Everything I read is the 6.0 is rock solid reliable and gets the job done. I realize with a little more power in the 6.6 you may notice the difference, but I would think with more power and a 3.73 vs less power and 4.10 they would tow similar. Very interested to hear your input as Im looking at both right now. Any real noticeable difference in MPG between the two? Did your 6.0 ever have any engine or tranny tunes done?
@@Bowstringdotcom All the 6.0’s I had were 100% stock. The 6.0 is a rock solid motor but it did need a power upgrade, hence the new 6.6. I didn’t really notice any MAJOR difference in towing. The 6.6 does tow a little better, but it’s not a record breaking difference. As far as mileage, the 6.6 does get better mileage but I’m also willing to bet that the 3.73 is the reason for that.
Thanks for the reply, that’s what I assumed but good to hear from an owner of both. Considering swapping my 18 1500 with 5.3 for either, depends on the deal on each
@@turbotransam1980 ive owned both as well. Same as previous, 6.0 has all the reliability but was a absolute dog when you put the pedal to it and 14mpg empty. 6.6 has alot more pep and better fuel economy....we shall see in the long term on the longevity but im loving it so far. Life long diesel guy and im done with them.
vhp454 it won’t happen companies don’t listen to their customers because they know people will buy regardless and Manual is dying because of that everyone is slowly. Phasing them out
@@yamahaguy1732 to many millennials can't drive a manual. As for big blocks i have a 1998 chevy with a 454 and i purchased it new and i will have it till i die. My trucks do not have cameras or the bells and whistles , but they all have big blocks . When GM ever comes back out with a big block engine i then will purchase a new truck. But till then im very happy with my old iron !!!!
I’m in same situation with the DEF up here in Alaska..,already had my DEF tank replaced twice on my 2020. Been looking at this gasser, dealer here has a 2022 AT4 3500 gas inbound. I also have a big 5er…what’s the tow sticker ratings, payload, pin weight and max tow on your truck? Thanks in advance.
Sorry if I missed it in your video but what is the payload for your truck? Like you I have a RzR and thinking of getting a toy hauler (loaded would be 17k lb) and I wondered how much of that is hitting the pin? Thanks! Nice video
Hey Q, great video. Wondered how you are liking the truck so far. Looks like your truck handled that camper well! Question about the rear leaf springs. I imagine you were pushing down on your upper overload springs but do you know how much your camper set down your rear end. My trailer is similar and I haven't pulled it yet but was curious. Thanks, man. Be safe.
I get that this is not representative of a long trip and that you're probably running slightly rich in the cold weather, still, I wouldn't like to see those fuel numbers very much. Even with a 36 gal fuel tank you'd be refueling every 200 miles or so. On top of that you've got a tranny temp of 189? In 9 degree weather and rolling hills? Florida's flat for sure but what's the temp gonna look like when it's 75 to 80 degrees hotter? I don't know, maybe there's a thermostat that bypasses the tranny cooler in cold temps and opens up when it's warmer... would be nice to see an updated video of how the truck performed on the long trip south
nice of you to test it out. I like videos with a real test. I am thinking of this 6.6. I currently have a 2014 5.3 v8 sierra pulling a 28 ft travel trailer. I would like more power.
Nice power I think you'd be very happy with the stability. Had a 26' hydraulic fishouse with a half ton a few years ago went to a 3/4 ton it was night and day difference.
Great video! I did the opposite of what you did. I went from a gas to a duramax and I have no regrets. Especially now that they put a ten speed. But hey to each its own.
You are 100% correct don't know your location but weeks of -25 and it seems to go into a fit. With that 10 speed make sure you change transmission fluid every 25,000 friend is a diesel tech at a chevy dealership.
Thanks for sharing, diesel's are becoming the rich mans truck these days. To complicated and to much matinence = more possible issues and costs. I'm going back to gas myself.
I think a LOT of people are feeling and thinking the same way, $10k upgrade, then "do I pay thousands more to delete" or "when do I have to pay thousands to fix emissions?" "When will the fuel system fail?" After any of that you pay a lot for the supposedly better truck.
Great video man! I’ve got a 2020 2500 hd with the 6.6 gas. When I bought it I figured it would be just fine towing my travel trailer and I’d upgrade in a couple years to a diesel. After 10k miles my fuel mileage increased from 15mpg to 17mpg. Towing my 6500lb TT with roughly 2k worth of tools etc for work I see 9-10mpg. I think it’s a much more capable truck than I expected and can’t say I’ll be getting a diesel down the road. The 6.6 gas is pretty impressive. I added a flowmaster 50 series hd muffler also and I think it helps as my 50 mile average best went to 18.5mpg. And it’s not obnoxiously loud.
Are you towing in hills or flat land? I'm thinking of going for this new 6.6 gas as I have an older 6.0 gas and it kinda struggles on long up hills
@@benca6151 we've driven ours pulling that camper from mn to the black hills a couple times and it does just fine I haven't had any complaints getting rid of diesel. My neighbor bought a 2021 duramax with this cold weather. Already had to replace a tank cause of heater issues.
Just bought a 2024 2500 HD with the 6.6 gas with the 10spd Allison. I'm getting 12 and I live in Florida
Excellent video! I traded my Ruby Red 3 stage paint 2015 Ford F250 Lariat Diesel Crew Cab for a Shadow Gray 2020 Chevy 3500 LTZ Crew Cab 6.6L gasser in March, 2020. There is no comparison. The steering and handling of the Chevy is light years better than the Ford. I am not knocking the Ford as it is a good truck, just not as up to date. I did not think that I needed the diesel as I pull a 30' foot travel trailer. I may actually trade in for a 33' 5th wheel as the Chevy has the 5th wheel prep package. The Ford would be over loaded for a 5th wheel with under 2,000 lbs of payload. I do miss the exhaust brake and diesel fuel mileage. I am not a fan of the new Ford aluminum bodies. The Chevy bed is awesome! I recently got 19.0 mpg not towing while traveling from home through the back roads to the campground at the Jersey shore.
Nice video. I have the 2022 Denali Gas HD. I get a lot of compliments but then they always end it with saying it’s not a diesel. Ridiculous to have a diesel just to say you have one. Traded a 2019 F250 diesel for it. It was way more truck than needed. I’m in Texas. Flat for the most part. I have no livestock. I have a KZ camper and it’s about 8000 pounds. Way more than enough truck. I’m not in the habit of wasting money.
Great video.
This is the video I’ve been looking for! Pulling the trigger on a bigger truck soon going from a 2015 Sierra slt to a 3500 to pull my current 8000lb(full load) camper. I’ve been wanting a duramax if ever we upgrade the trailer to a fifth wheel but watching your video with this truck it’s hard to really justify the extra 10k, the extra filters on a diesel, just the overall regular maintenance of a diesel is hard to justify if it’s not “worked everyday” as you said.
Thank you again for the informative video, makes the decision a bit easier!
Cheers, from Alberta, Canada
I like diesels mostly for the way they sound, but also I like their towing capabilities. Diesels are awesome but they cost ridiculous amounts of money. The Chevy V8 has a nice strong and masculine purr to it.
I keep coming back to this video, and it makes me want one even more every time.
We opted for the gas version 4 yrs ago (2014 GMC 2500) due to all the maintenance cost issues just to keep it on the road compared to the ease of gas and haven't regretted it for a minute. Of course were weekend warriors not full timers so thanks for video for when I upgrade pretty soon..
Glad I saw your video! We also live in MN and have been going back in fourth regarding gas or diesel. We recently ordered a ‘22 GMC 3500 AT4 gas and you set our mind at ease.
In reality, how fast do you need to go with really heavy loads? Seems you are easily maintaining the speed limits with little effort on the trucks part. Seems like a win win. Nice truck!
Definitely no need to go fast! For me It gives a bit more confidence to be able to get up to speed on the interstate or pass easily, as well as the exhaust brake is awesome. All this being said I’ve towed more with the old 6.0 gasser then I have diesel as far as time in seat, and I went and bought a gasser for myself, it does fine but you know a trailer is there and it isn’t effortless, but it goes better then my 1994 Cummins does(fairly stock don’t crucify me)
This just confirmed exactly what I was thinking. Can't wait to order my 2021. Thanks so much for the video.
Just put an order in today for a 3500 dually 6.6 gas. Really excited because I’ve been overweight with my 2011 1500 that’s definitely done well with my 5th wheel. You’re video shows how good the 6.6 is and it’s not a neck snapper, but a good pulling engine.
did your order get fulfilled? I also ordered recently (SRW though)
I wound up canceling it in February and bought a 2016 Sierra 3500 gas dually at a good price with 30,000 miles. I’m glad I did due to the strike and slow delivery process since we’re moving next month.
@@patrickdunster1083 I see. If you’re in a time crunch definitely gotta do it. But also you can’t go wrong with that 6.0 they used in that generation. Historic engine
We drive up there all the time for wheeling trips. Love the area! We have a Ram 3500 long box 6.4L hemi and love it over the diesel as we are not going cross county either.
Agree with everything said on diesel vs gas I been diesel tech 36 years I love my 2500hd gas eng would not have anything else
I have two gassers a 6.0 in a 2500 Chevy and 8.1 in a 3500 Chevy. Believe me the 8.1 will pull with 455 lbs of toque. I would buy the 6.6 gas over the Duramax. . The 8.1 is a proven long lasting engine. Because the 8.1 is a big block with a longer stroke then the 6.6 small block , I think the 8.1 would out last the 6.6 . I have 250,000 miles on my 8.1 and the engine runs like a new one. If the 6.6 holds up even close to the 8.1 it a good buy.
8.1 is a great motor.
Great real world video. Thanks for taking the time to do this....
Just curious on this idea. Supercharged 6.6L gasser
I think ya made the right choice 👌i got an LML and some days i wish it was a gasser. Looks like that setup tows much better than previous 6.0s. just hope it has reliability of the 6.0
Agreed, but it also needs to have better mpg than the 6.0 liter. I've heard they were terrible for their size.
@@rydstallion75 yeah, but that's just how it is with big gas engines
Great, thanks a lot, I got a 2011 2500hd with the 6.0 167000 miles and now I need one of these 😂👍
I’ve lived in Destin my whole. Hope y’all had a good time when y’all visited. Good review.
Love the area thanks
Just watched you video... Have pretty much the same truck (engine) 2500. Funny I have exactly the same BEST as you, 18.4... Live in Utah, a Lil higher elevation but im happy with this truck too... So far!
Crazy I have a 12k toy hauler and I always just assumed I needed diesel. I had a lml Duramax and now a 6.7 stroker. Crazy now I can skate by with a gasser with those weights.
Nice truck. Today’s gas engines are Awsome. Gotta love the stupid comments from people who have no idea what a true “turd” motor is.
McCuck81 Agreed; my last truck was a mint condition 1997 F350 with a 5-spd & 460 big block, which some people seem to cream their jeans over. In reality, it was an absolute dog turd.
Icutmetal I had a 96 f350. 351. Auto. Believe me. I know. 😂😂😂
Thanks for the honest review---I’m looking for a gas truck - I tow under 10,000 - buying def and fuel additives is getting old and my warranty runs out next year
You won't be disappointed. After towing our TH (13500 lbs) For over a year now I haven't regretted it a bit
I just bought one for 2022 Z71 LT trim have pulled my trailer yet got to go 500 miles before I tow but can’t wait
I tried out a 22 silverado 2500 I liked the engine I pulled a 9 k trailer and load in hilly terrain ,it pulled the girls good and the gas mileage age was not bad , around 16 empty ,but I hated the brakes you had to push hard and if you drove another vehicle afterwards you were slamming the brakes ,and the steering was loose it wandered around ,The dealer said it was ok so I said by to it .
I guess anything over 3000 lb your supposed to have trailer brakes. I guess I wouldn't pull my 13000 lb toy hauler with no trailer brakes. I guess if my trailer brakes didn't work on my camper. I would have to push harder that's common sense. What isn't common sense is towing a trailer of 9k with trailer brakes not set up right.
I just got a 2500 custom and I'm hoping the fuel economy will improve when I get a few more miles on it. Best I got was only 14Mpg. I only have 600 miles on it.
3800 miles 14 is mine, its hard to tell right now with the idling In the winter months. Reset last trip was 300 miles 65 mph was at 16.
We just posted our 20000 mile review and the mileage. It got much better for us after it broke in. 17-23 for the most part.
Right now with Warmer weather and less idling seeing 16 to 17
we're not pulling your weight, but about 8K. Bought a 2024 6.6 with a 10 speed Allison. It tows nice. I have no comparison to Duramax, but I can tell you with that lighter 5th wheel, you really dont know its there.
Ordered a 2022 2500 with this engine & can’t wait to get it!!
Nice, how much did you end up paying if you don’t mind me asking
@@cashmiller2999 ended up paying 57 with some add on s
Thank you for the information. Awesome truck and video!
I'd imagine winter blend gas hurts the towing mpg somewhat. I took my 18 F250 6.2L gasser and my 34ft 11k lb 5ver from Chicago to Tucson and back in September. No issues at all even up the 7,500 ft mountain pass. I would short fill a few stops if I could find a Loves truck stop they make it real easy to get 5vers into the gas lanes on the ends.
Ya that's going to be my only problem navigating into the gas lanes. Diesel lanes were so nice
@@stricklyq5613 most new truck stops have plenty of room. I know I'm good for 200-250miles range so I use the rvparkey app to find my fuel stops. Then use google streetview to see the setup. Some loves have a dedicated rv/motorhome gas island.
Cool! Cruising around Akeley! I think that I might recognize your voice. I'm Tom's friend Mick. Tom grew up in Akeley. We ride dirt bike together there.
Great video you made up my mind big time. On those new 6.6 liter engines.
Hey mn neighbor I'm over near Pine River. I have an 18 Silverado 3500 duramax but I haul campers for a living
Jackass 16:21 lol. Great vid I have a ‘22 Sierra 2500 gasser on order. I considered a Ford 7.3 but it’s a hefty priced option for only a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque than the 6.6. and to boot I want nothing to do with that 10 speed trans. Very educational vid for me thank you for uploading.
That 10 speed is great, and more importantly than an additional 11lb.ft. is where the power is applied. Larger displacement engines will naturally make power lower in the RPM range, where trucks can use it the most.
@@Icutmetal both engines peak torque is the same 4000 rpm. I am a loader operator for a Copart yard and get a lot of real world feedback from auto haulers on what’s good and what’s not. The 6.6 gas/6 speed combo has been nothing but positive. Haven’t seen a single Ford 7.3/10 speed yet, nothing but diesel. I personally know 2 people just in my little circle that are having some funny shifting issues with their 10 speed trans, one in a 1/2 ton and one in a 3/4. Perhaps the haulers are getting the same feedback. Naturally this just puts a bad taste in my mouth. This is just my own experience I know everyone has a preference.
The ten speeds like to run WAY warmer than most with the ULV fluid. Factory spec is 210-215, but they don't red line till past 260. They are a bit rougher when cold, so the first few minutes feel more like the six speed, but they are pretty darn smooth when near or at operating temp. 197 looks too cool for me lol. Mine is in a Ford, but it's the same transmission and same fluid, just different bellhousings and shift profiles for the different torque curves. Ford runs a water to fluid cooler/warmer. I'm not sure what the GM setup is on the 10 speeds. I would assume it would be similar to drop costs with suppliers.
It's a 6 speed
This truck doesn’t have a ten speed.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I have a similar setup with the 2020 AT4, and am pulling a 30' TT. My truck did come with the trailering package, so I installed the TTPMS sensors, and then purchased the programmer to set them up. You briefly mentioned in your video possibly getting and installing these. That said, its been my experience with these that the trailering software doesn't seem to save the programmed results, so every time I hook up the trailer I have to reprogram them.
Safe travels...
Thanks for the info I went with the tst system instead
My 2020 diesel 1 ton chev gets 8.8 at 72 mph, with mix city hwy, pulling 14200 rv, got a 10k rebate for purchase, rarely over 1500 rpms,
Just ordered a 2022 GMC 6.6 Gas crew cab 4X4. Tried both diesel and gas, gas won out for me. Dual wheels. Few techy options, no hight tech garbage. We only intend to vacation three or four times a year, not full time. We ordered a 3000lbs non-slide camper to haul in the bed. No intention of towing anything behind.
You ever weighted just the truck on the scales to get payload figure?
Full of fuel 8550
Very nice feature, the test lights...
It's really nice
Just my uneducated opinions here, but 187 is GREAT. Mid summer through MD/WV mountains I’ve run at 200+ for hrs, and have seen as high as 220.
Thanks for the info
I have a 2016 Denali 3500 Duramax....actually the longest I have kept a truck in 20 years I use the truck to tow snowmobiles to our property in Northern VT so DEF fluid and fuel issues always on my mind, looking hard at the 6.6 gas. I have had 4 Dmaxs over the years so it tough
It was for me too. 4 def tanks in 3 years was kinda my breaking point. Plus weighed the how much we pull to empty, I now when we retire and become some what fill time RV'ers I'll more than likely go back.But in 18 years who knows what will be out there for pickups. If they could ever get the battery thing figured out could you imagine the instant high torque and hp of electric.
Not sure why you'd even bother with diesel if all you're towing is snowmobiles. My 4-place 24' aluminum covered snowmobile trailer was light enough to be carried by a Tacoma. If you even had 8 sleds in a long 29' trailer you'd be barely at 7,500 - 8,500 lbs. That's well within the range of a half ton gas truck even.
I don’t by Duramax trucks to tow a snowmobile trailer, I buy them because there trade values hold better here in New England and I trade often. Out of about 15 GM trucks over the last 20 years only 2 have been half tons and I lost interest fast...I prefer my Denali 3500 even to pick up groceries
@@truckingoover because you can I wish the trade in value was true around here you go to a dealership there's 15 used diesels on the lot market is saturated in the midwest
Tbh I love GM trucks but one of the stuff I don’t like here in Saudi Arabia that transmission it goes up that made you pull over cooling
When someone gets a gas truck they will justify in their minds and seek that they made the right choice. Having owned both, diesel is the best option for fuel economy, longevity and enjoyment of driving/owning. The maintenance is not a big deal as I do it all myself and who needs emissions?
I did my own maintenance myself. If you need a diesel get one. But there are other ways of pulling a camper for the weekend warrior that won't break the bank. If your using a diesel for what they are truly intended for then I agree. I have made the right choice I saved 10,000 dollars and get the job done. If I was retired and traveling the country constantly yes I would own a diesel. But I don't need one because I do 2 big trips a year and a few weekend trips. Haven't needed a diesel.
I worked at a fleet manager office and I can tell you, all the emissions problems are because the entire industry is using 2 sensor providers and they keep failing...they realized they make a killing on failing parts and no one will change how they do things. We are all switching to the gas ! Now we don't have a chevy contract but on a personal question , how them front seats? i hear some mixed feelings on em for long rides?
I think they are comfortable they were a little stiff at first but after say break in they are very comfortable
@@stricklyq5613 Thank you!
I like your truck however I personally want more truck than I need. It seems under powered to me. I say smaller lighter camper or diesel. Thanks for the video..
Good thing you went to Destin when you did because it’s been destroyed with Sally.
9:48 What new transmission does GM use with HD gas engines?
Any way to monitor your oil temp while towing, without a OBD2 reader? Not a big deal but I'd miss that gauge coming from Ram.
No
Great video. Thank you my friend.
Nice video buddy
For the transmission as you said cooler is better, but normal operating temp is generally 175+\- 25°F. Around 225° I md start to get a little concerned and usually anything about 230° is when you’re rapidly wearing parts and varnishing fluid. Contrary to popular belief it’s better to slow down to keep air flow to the cooler or stop the vehicle but leave it running to circulate fluid and allow the transmission to cool off.
In the middle of summer I have never went above 208. And Iam talking ambient air temp of 98 to 103 in SD in the mountains if your seeing those Temps your thermostat might be sticking
@@stricklyq5613 yes that can contribute or cause high transmission temps especially if you don’t have an external transmission cooler and are relying on coolant and a small cooler in the radiator. However shifting excessive amounts on grades/stop and go traffic, or excessively heavy loads while towing and climbing grades will cause very high transmission temps as well as having fluid that is varnished and not cooling as well already. That being said I have never had trans temps above 210° while towing on any of my personal trucks. My uncle tuned the 2.7 eco boost in his ford (downloaded a bad tune with horrible shift points) and his trans got to 230° towing my boat, we pulled over set it to stock and let it idle to cool off, the transmission didn’t go past 207° pulling the boat for 2 hours. Along with that I had to build the “Twin disc” brand true automatic transmissions in a Union Pacific semi a few years ago (divorced transmissions connected by a torque tube) and the freeze frame data at point of failure was 250°+ and they were completely smoked and had blown a ton of fluid through the vents.
New 7.3 is amazing you should try
I think it will be a good motor. Nothing wrong with larger displacement but then you start burning way more fuel. I think the manufacturers see what's going to happen with the $10,000 upgrade and the emissions crap and cost to fix it.
@@stricklyq5613 on that 7.3 i am concerned there will be head gasket issues. The cylinder to cylinder face looks as if it visually is .125" or so. I wouldn't be surprised if they develop gasket issues in a couple years down the road. Now the 6.6 has a nice meaty gasket support from cylinder to cylinder. I want reliability and to me Ford has great motor engineers and that motor's bottom end is awesome 6-bolt mains. I just can't get over the fear on leaking getting a motor that needs head gaskets often an potential milling on decking
Excellent video
Is that 5 miles per gallon?
did you add air bags to your truck?
I did not . I have checked it on a flat level area it squats down 1.5" past level it rides awesome. I have never believed in air bags adds stress where it isn't needed.
Will you gas 6.6 last as long as a duramax opinion thanks
I guess I was a mechanic for 15 yrs I would say transmission goes out 80% of the time before the engine. I typically trade every 4 to 5 yrs. I'll have less maintenance costs can't go by fuel costs right now, They are the same where we live iam averaging 8 mpg towing with gas diesel I was around 10. I don't rod on crap I pull I think it would last a long time
Hows truck still running? Looking to get one
Runs awesome 46,000 miles haven't regretted it a bit
@@stricklyq5613 awesome! Thx u
why did they drop the 7.2?
The 7.4 l 454 was in the trucks until I think 2001. 7.2 ls7 was a corvette/ race performance engine
Is this the same 6 speed allison transmission from 2019
No not an allison
It is a 6l90e. One of hell of a transmission. My family owns and operates a transmission repair shop and vouch for the 6l90e. I got a 6l90e in my Cadillac CTS-V running 700+ hp through it at 50,000 miles and never had an issue with it.
@@BReese504 you beat me to it. They are an awesome transmission.
Does that have a tow haul package on it
Yes the 5th wheel gooseneck package
@@stricklyq5613 I don’t have a button on my gear shifter
@@eulasduff5651 it's not on your gear shifter anymore it's up on the left hand side of the dash
@@stricklyq5613 Thank you I actually found that out today just before now but thanks again
What trim level did you get
LTZ premium 2 package z71. I have the puck system as my camper is converted to a gooseneck. Now the package doesn't have heated rear seats and half the stuff might not work cause of chip shortage. I paid $52000. I was going to order a new one with the 14% increase this year that same truck 69 to 72 they won't guarantee price till ship invoice comes in.
how many miles on truck now?
They burn some oil till they are broke in.
Mine did when I was pulling hard say running 75 80 mph. Burned about a quart every 3000 miles. In the first 20000 miles seems to have subsided now. Not pulling anything it didn't burn oil. Have 52000 on mine now.
They need gearing opitions
What meant by delete the engine?
Delete the emissions system. DPF filters exhaust. Egr system.
Oh ya and the def system
Gas guzzler buddy
Nope way better than the 6.0 16 mpg. Pulling with the Diesel I averaged 10 this 8 so it's fine
4.5 miles per gallon are you serious what the heck is wrong with this truck
It's a gas truck for one pulling a 14,000 lb trailer which it does very well. If u look at later video about finally going on a long trip avg around 8. With my 16 diesel I never got above 10.5.
@@stricklyq5613 your pulling a 14000 pound trailer and it’s not a dually? Truck and trailer don’t match unless you pulling around town every blue moon..... I get 15 miles to gallon pulling a 44ft fifth wheel granted my f450 is deleted and breathes extremely well.... I pull my enclosed trailer with my gasser and it eats gas like crazy especially if any type of hill but I would never pull 14000 pounds with my gasser.... stoping power is not there tranny shifts too much.... no engine braking and bumper trailer is no where near stable as my dually..... and another thing I had trailer brakes go while hauling a lighter back hoe about 13000 pounds guess what I didn’t even notice it with my f450 any gasser dude would be on skates but it could happen you could lose connection or trailer brakes and that single wheel gasser is toast I would stay around 9/10 pounds on a gasser unless the f350 dually....... and I had a lot of towing done around PA Pittsburg area I took on the hill on rt40 there which is extreme with my fifth wheel and f450 didn’t even downshift dude lol build boost and truck did all the work easily my gasser wouldn’t even attempt no where near that type of hill
@@spin0491 it handles just fine. Have pulled it all over went to deadwood from MN in the mountains 10 hours. Pulls it great at 65 mph. As far as the dually comment have never felt like I needed it. Before this truck i had a srw diesel pulled the same 38 ft camper to Florida didn't need a dually. I guess I spent alot less than you and didnt have to delete anything to get down the road. Did you watch the other video where I explained the transmission. I'd use this truck to pull camper to Florida. U can brag about your mpg. It had to be deleted to get that and maybe not. Shifting it really doesn't shift alot. Oh ya my plug did lose connection coming out of deadwood into sturgis down the mountain no trailer breaks transmission took care of it just fine touched the brakes twice. Thanks for your comments iam sure your combo is awesome
@@spin0491oh ya you could pull 20,000 lbs with my truck all has to do with trailer balance and hitch weight. But you knew that already
@@stricklyq5613 well I mean if you tow every now and then that’s cool but towing 14000 often like every week would have stayed diesel because the motor and tranny setup doesn’t strain/struggle near as much because of the more than double the torque which is what people who tow heavy really care about....but if you tow camper every now and then that should be fine.....and yes of course I wanted to delete my diesel because unfortunately the government has put all this crap on diesel to choke them out.....again if I tow 14000 quite often any diesel will out perform and in the long run actually last longer there’s a reason why all your big machinery your trains/boats/excavators all run diesels because you can push a diesel hard or actually not have to and it can handle heavy loads way better than gas engine for extended periods of time....again small loads occasional big load go gas outside of that diesel unless you lease and don’t plan on keeping the truck long because that’s what most people do when they are towing over the trucks limits stupid stuff start to brake cause it’s straining!!
And now your trailer is coated in road salt Watch everything on the undercarriage rust.
Mn it already is if a guy worries about crap like that you'll go nuts
The Ford 7.3 gas kills any other gas engine for towing, it’s not my opinion it’s facts, look it up.
Thanks Ron for that insiteful comment. Neighbor bought one It does have a ton of power and gets 11mpg not pulling its awesome
Ron B. Who cares? I’m watching this to learn about the 6.6. 🤔
The Ford 7.3 is an extra hefty cost option , is mated to a less proven trans., and only produces a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque than the 6.6. which comes standard. Not my opinion it’s facts, look it up.
That thing sounds like it’s working holly shit, idk about those gas trucks
Working how pulled camper just fine you should of heard my 6.0 not stop shifting and screaming motor
Dam that thing is ugly
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Opinions differ.
We actually call these 5th wheel trailers not campers.
Call em whatever you like hell call it the space shuttle. No one cares
Haha FORD has 7.3l gas that blows Chevy away....lol
Great observation thanks for the comment
Coming from a lifelong Ford guy…..the 7.3 is a $$$ option, only rated a mere 11 more ft. lbs. of torque, and the GM 6L90E trans is much more proven than the 10 speed. The reason I just ordered a GMC 2500 gasser.
Chevy gas motors are turds. Should have kept the diesel. Ford 7.3 gas is the new king of gas motors in the hd trucks.
Good technical observation MIT thanks
wnc817 Yes it was, then they went to LS type motors, which are no good for towing, just for burning lots of gas.
How'd the 6.0 work out biggest piece of shit
Mit Lei That was helpful.
Some people are just plain keyboard retards. Gm gas engines are rock solid from a 4.3 to a 7.4 5.3 to a 8.1 and now these new 6.6 gas engines. I’m completely impressed with the review and the handling of 14-15k lbs behind it. I want an engine I can do things with and hear and that’s not possible w a new L5P dmax. 2500-5k to delete it 10k extra on the sticker price it just doesn’t make sense anymore. I’d like to see how that truck of yours does running interstate to Florida empty far as mpg. I’ve had lb7s lbz lmm and 8.1s and 6.0s the last 15yrs and an 8.1 is hard to beat. Not quite the mpg empty but towing it’s rock solid at 8-10mpg. Gm might be onto something with this new 6.6
It's funny how hard it is to explain to "Diesel diehards" that there are other options available... 👍 Nice job..
Don't even try anymore lol
I have almost exactly the same truck as yours except mine is 2500HD LT 6.8' bed with gas. I get 19MPG empty. I drive safely; I don't tailgate; I coast to the red light.
I tow a 5000-5500 lbs travel trailer at max 65-70 MPH and get average 9-11 MPG.
I would love to have a diesel, but it's just not worth the money what I tow.
Sounds very similar to my 2018 1500 with the 5.3 Ecotec. I get 16-18 average empty, towing an 8k lb camper trailer with bumper hitch the 5.3 gets 9-11mpg depending on speed, 9 at 70-75mph, 11 at 55-60mph. But I have been eyeing those new 6.6 gassers to get more payload.
No DEF is priceless 👍
Trans temps are just fine. People on UA-cam just repeat what they think they hear. Trans temps that are too cold damage just as much as overheating
Agree
Thanks for a real world test I'm going full time in a truck camper. Was going back and forth between gas and diesel being that it is going to be my home I think I should go gas much more reliable and alot I can fix myself know nothing about diesels
GM fan myself but was disappointed that they only come out with a 6.6litre from the old reliable 6.0. Hopefully they make a big block. Pull a 35' 5th wheel with a 2005 chevy 2500HD 6.0 gasser for years and miles. 7-8 MPG, And that's all its been used for pulling the camper. For the price of a new one I can buy a lot of gas and even a new motor if needed, if my 6.0 ever wears out. 127000 miles on it so far. Might not get to the campground as quick but who cares im camping just leave a little earlier. I'm a heavy hauler truck driver, wish I could go 80 up a hill loaded with my semi.
Great choice! That gas V8 will be around for years to come. Safe travels in the future and enjoy your new ride.
Thanks sharing. We recently purchased a 9000lbs camper and my 2014 1500 wasn't real happy after a hard driving season so i got a 2020 2500hd and haven't actually been down the road with it . Now I'm pretty excited, should be fantastic for my application.
How's it doing a year later? Is that 9000lbs empty or loaded?
I got a 2022 2500 gas. Biggest mistake ever with vehicle purchase. Had it 30 days and traded it for 2022 2500 diesal. I get 11.2 average towing my 11k camper. And 19 to 21 mpg when not with the diesel. Compared to 8.0 mpg towing with the gas. And 16 to 18 when not. Not to mention diesel is WAY more stable. If you're doing +10k towing get a diesel.
Thanks for putting in the effort and showing us what this truck is capable of. 😎👍
Sounds like you made the right choice! Diesels are not what they were, not even close.
Owning an older 8.1 2500 been looking into the new 6.6 gas, great video!
How do you like the 8.1?
What kinda gas mileage do you get?
@@curtis1951 its poo, unloaded on the freeway doing 60ish (it has a 4l85e trans) i get just shy of 11 mpg. It uses premium unleaded so add that to the headache. I just bought a 19 duramax and I get almost 20 mpg from it. I still have the 8.1. We probably will never sell it
@@teages078
That's old school V8 mpg 😂
@@curtis1951 496 cubic inches. I dont expect much hahaha
I own a Chevy 2004 3500 crew cab long bed 4x4 with the 8.1 (496) it says to use regular gas, I have tried putting premium gas in it, it didn't make any difference on fuel mileage or power. So I only burn regular gas to save money. I wanted the gas to save money on repairs. I would just have to hate to think about spending 5 to 10 thousand dollars in repairs. I did my research the 8.1 is pretty much bulletproof. I can buy a brand new 8.1 motor for $4,900. or a good used low mileage for about $2,400 . My 8.1 has a Allison 5 speed transmission and 4.10 gears . 330 hp and 440lbs of toque . It will pull anything I need. Which is my tractors the heaviest is 9,600 lbs and loads of round bales of hay on a 24 ft gooseneck trailer that weighs at 5,250 lbs. It may be old school in fuel mileage it get 6.5 mpg fully loaded and 11 mpg empty on the highway , empty around home and town 8.5 to 9 mpg . I agree with all the reasons to go with the gas engine. If I bought a new truck 2021 it would be the 6.6 gas. But I had read that Chevy and GMC will be coming out with another big block gas motor in the very near future. Probably to compete with the new Ford big block gas 7.3 which is getting good reviews. I have seen serval gas 6.6 Chevy 2500 and 3500 trucks around my area . Everyone seems to be happy with them.
Cool video, thanks for posting. I’ve had my 2020 HD with the new 6.6 since August and I’m really impressed with it. It is a big upgrade from the old Vortec 6.0.
Curious what your feelings on where it is better than the 6.0? Everything I read is the 6.0 is rock solid reliable and gets the job done. I realize with a little more power in the 6.6 you may notice the difference, but I would think with more power and a 3.73 vs less power and 4.10 they would tow similar. Very interested to hear your input as Im looking at both right now. Any real noticeable difference in MPG between the two? Did your 6.0 ever have any engine or tranny tunes done?
@@Bowstringdotcom All the 6.0’s I had were 100% stock. The 6.0 is a rock solid motor but it did need a power upgrade, hence the new 6.6. I didn’t really notice any MAJOR difference in towing. The 6.6 does tow a little better, but it’s not a record breaking difference. As far as mileage, the 6.6 does get better mileage but I’m also willing to bet that the 3.73 is the reason for that.
Thanks for the reply, that’s what I assumed but good to hear from an owner of both. Considering swapping my 18 1500 with 5.3 for either, depends on the deal on each
@@Bowstringdotcom yeah no big deal, you can’t go wrong either way.
@@turbotransam1980 ive owned both as well. Same as previous, 6.0 has all the reliability but was a absolute dog when you put the pedal to it and 14mpg empty. 6.6 has alot more pep and better fuel economy....we shall see in the long term on the longevity but im loving it so far. Life long diesel guy and im done with them.
GM needs to come back out with a big block that has great torque mated to a 6 speed manual.
vhp454 it won’t happen companies don’t listen to their customers because they know people will buy regardless and Manual is dying because of that everyone is slowly. Phasing them out
@@yamahaguy1732 to many millennials can't drive a manual.
As for big blocks i have a 1998 chevy with a 454 and i purchased it new and i will have it till i die.
My trucks do not have cameras or the bells and whistles , but they all have big blocks .
When GM ever comes back out with a big block engine i then will purchase a new truck. But till then im very happy with my old iron !!!!
vhp454 I drive my 86 and it’s just fine I like it just as good as my 2016 high country I only use that for road trips
The era of the manuals is gone.
@@DJKiDDKlashez thats because of millennials like your self that are pussies and can't drive.
$10k the price of admition to tow at Ike. No thanks! I'm sold. Gas it is. 2022 LT. Worth to be on waiting list.
Thank you I was looking for video on the 6.6 gaser
I’m in same situation with the DEF up here in Alaska..,already had my DEF tank replaced twice on my 2020. Been looking at this gasser, dealer here has a 2022 AT4 3500 gas inbound. I also have a big 5er…what’s the tow sticker ratings, payload, pin weight and max tow on your truck? Thanks in advance.
Just wanted to see how trucks holding up? Its the one i want to go for one day
Our Cabin/hunting property is up outside Park Rapids. Northern MN is nice too bad the Twin Cities ruins MN.
We have 80 acres over by snellman don't go to murderapolis avoid it like the plague
Sorry if I missed it in your video but what is the payload for your truck? Like you I have a RzR and thinking of getting a toy hauler (loaded would be 17k lb) and I wondered how much of that is hitting the pin? Thanks! Nice video
Hey Q, great video. Wondered how you are liking the truck so far. Looks like your truck handled that camper well! Question about the rear leaf springs. I imagine you were pushing down on your upper overload springs but do you know how much your camper set down your rear end. My trailer is similar and I haven't pulled it yet but was curious. Thanks, man. Be safe.
I too went with gas! Got the new 2020 Chevy Silverado Custom 6.6 gas... Diesel just not like they use to be! My own opinion!
I get that this is not representative of a long trip and that you're probably running slightly rich in the cold weather, still, I wouldn't like to see those fuel numbers very much. Even with a 36 gal fuel tank you'd be refueling every 200 miles or so. On top of that you've got a tranny temp of 189? In 9 degree weather and rolling hills? Florida's flat for sure but what's the temp gonna look like when it's 75 to 80 degrees hotter? I don't know, maybe there's a thermostat that bypasses the tranny cooler in cold temps and opens up when it's warmer... would be nice to see an updated video of how the truck performed on the long trip south
Watch the second review numbers are better we ran 1800 miles to deadwood. 8mpg my diesel always got 9.5 on the same run
My question as well Mark! Towing in the summer with temps in the 90's or 100' s pulling up hill, what's transmission and engine temps?
nice of you to test it out. I like videos with a real test. I am thinking of this 6.6. I currently have a 2014 5.3 v8 sierra pulling a 28 ft travel trailer. I would like more power.
Nice power I think you'd be very happy with the stability. Had a 26' hydraulic fishouse with a half ton a few years ago went to a 3/4 ton it was night and day difference.
Beautiful truck. Thanks for sharing
Nice video I am thinking about getting the custom.
Great video! I did the opposite of what you did. I went from a gas to a duramax and I have no regrets. Especially now that they put a ten speed. But hey to each its own.
You are 100% correct don't know your location but weeks of -25 and it seems to go into a fit. With that 10 speed make sure you change transmission fluid every 25,000 friend is a diesel tech at a chevy dealership.
@@stricklyq5613 northwest New Mexico. Didn't know about the transmission fluid change at 25,000. Thanks for the info enjoy your new truck.