The 400 small block was the best gas engine Chevrolet ever produced. It only took 40 years to start producing it again. I got my order in 3 weeks ago. Can't wait.
Why does anyone think an engine is "straining" just because it is operating at a higher rpm. Look at the numbers, that is where it operates most efficiently to produce the power needed and the pcm is programmed to keep the rpm there when the power is required. This new gas engine produces more horsepower than the turbo diesel engines, up until recently, so it is quite capable.
Well boys, I just love trucks. I’ve had Chevy Silverado, two F150s (current is 2015 F150 Ecoboost 3.5), F100, and 1993 Dakota. But I’ve always wanted a 3/4 ton. No diesel for me.
Yea the m sure my needs would be fulfilled with a 2500/250 HD truck, one of either of the three big truck manufacturers has powered trucks. I would naturally have to test drive each one, with the new Godzilla in the Ford of course. As I could never see me needing a travel trailer bigger than 10k anyway and actually more around 8,000, mainly because I don’t like slides either.
I remember 23 years ago we had 7.3 diesels, 6.5 diesels, 5.9 diesels, 440 gas, 460 and 454, today's engines pull so much more, 17,000 pounds, pull a 32 foot cattle trailer full of cows moving all over
One of the best looking trucks out there! And no, the gmc does NOT look better in my option. It does look very busy however, not my style. Chevy front end looks more aggressive with the marker lights up high above the headlights.
I got to test drive one of these a few months ago and I was very impressed with the power this thing makes. I also drove the 7.3 Ford and they were nearly identical feeling behind the wheel. The Chevy would benefit from the 10 speed. When matted the Chevy wound up to 6k and seemed like it was struggling at bit to get the last 500rpm before it shifted. The Ford seemed to get to 6k effortlessly with the 10 speed and the shifts were firm every time. The Ford did a little bit of gear hunting. For vehicles that weigh 7k they run pretty good and would be consider very fast for anything car or truck 20 years ago. You wouldn’t be disappointed with either truck if you want a 3/4 ton without the expense of a diesel. I also drove the Ram and it ran great until you stuck a heavy trailer on back. It just made a lot of great engine noise and really struggled on hills. Definitely needs another 80lbs of torque. We were towing 12k by the way at 700 to about a 1000 feet of altitude.
I'm not in a race to the top of the hill and pounding the truck to me is foolish. I put the transmission in manual, choose a gear for the best torque output, set the cruise and enjoy the ride. Have a 2021 on order, goodbye Duramax.
Roadrunner 78 should be a stout motor. 401 hp out of a 6.6 v8 is very undertuned. This motor will last as long if not longer than the 6.0 no doubt. Bigger displacement so larger bearings, more surface area to work with.
You are exactly right. I just bought one of these trucks with the 6.6 and 3.73 gears. I has no pulling power under 3,000 rpms. Even towing my little 5,000lb cargo trailer this truck really has to rev from 3k-4k rpms to do it. That's ok if you like getting 7mpg while towing a small trailer. This engine does NOT tow better than my 05 2500 with 3.73 gears and a 6.0 engine. The 6.0 made more power down low under 3k rpms which gave it better fuel economy around 10mpg towing the same trailer. These new 6.6's need 4.10 gears real bad or a beefed up 10spd trans. But I rather go with 4.10's and the 6 speed because the 6spd trans would be cheaper to replace.
I'm looking forward to this motor. After seeing how the outgoing 6.0 outperformed the Ram and Ford gassers on TFL's Ike gauntlet, I think this is going to be a great entry level HD motor.
@@wyo1446 Yea, chevys used to use that ratio too. Things change. That 7.3l will be thirstier than the 6.6l. That's the point. Why are ford lovers too retarded to understand a basic point made by anyone else?
I tow in the Colorado Rockies. I thought maybe this was the answer for upgrading my 5.3 towing an 8K pound travel trailer. I drove my son in law's new 2024 6.6 GMC with the 10 speed. I was not impressed with the power on flat ground at 5k feet. I always wonder why GM doesn't take a clue from Ford's Ecoboost playbook and turbo charge the 5.3 or 6.0L for the HD. No DEF required. The Ike test on the 2020 6.6L didn't finish over 25 mph at 11,000 feet elevation towing it's max rated trailer. I am considering buying a 6.0L and adding a turbo.
How come the gasser does not have the active hood scoop? Should have at least been an option. Now I have to go too the parts counter and ask how much a conversion is gonna be. Yes that scoop is just as important on a gasser. How do you get that wrong. Let's see how much money they can save by making one type of hood liner. Yes I know , you also need the air box.
It seems to me it struggling,I don't think they got 4.10 gears in it.i mean it would still struggle but it would put the rpms up there where it can work.
The issue is that some idiot at GM decided to drop the 4.10 axle ratio and replace it with 3.73's. So they boosted engine power but made the axle ratio taller so the engine works harder. It probably won't improve in performance until GM starts using the 10-speed in the HD trucks, which will probably happen in a year or two.
Came across this checking reviews.put deposit on 2022 custom.with plow and trailor package.heaviest is my dump trailor.14000 lbs.loaded. package. Is the 3500 frame and axles same as 2500??
For that size of motor; it would have been nice if it was rated at 430 hp and 490 torque. Although Ford refuses to release horse power and torque ratings right now for the new 7.3 gas; people are predicting it to be fairly high.
He said it was struggling, he also said he didn’t have the gas pedal all the way down. It was struggling give it some more gas. How heavy was the trailer. How steep is the grade on the hill, 4% 5% 6%?
@@knaharrington627 bore centers determine small vs big block. Just going from memory here, GM small blocks have 4.4" bore centers vs. 4.84" for the big block.
Why did the edit of the video about struggling occur at 6:58? I’ve seen it before the editing and at the 7:00 mark the shotgun seat guy throws a mild insult out. Why the edit? Your review is what you felt driving the truck. Was there a kickback for the edit?
It hasn't been an issue on the GM v8's. The biggest source of carbon in the intake comes from the PCV system. GM designed a pretty serious air/oil separator that's integrated into the valve cover to prevent oil vapor from getting pulled out of the crankcase. I've seen Gen V 5.3's and 6.2's that were surprisingly clean at 150k to 200k miles. There was a 2015 Silverado 5.3 that was torture tested for 520k miles and that engine didn't have an issue with carbon deposits either. Not all DI engines are equal when it comes to carbon deposits.
@@miket2172 Yea, & everything you read on the Internet must be true. Ironically, I am a Chevy owner for 25 years & even I don't believe this. But, as of late I will never own another GM. Easy to see there are much better choices.
TFL Truck has tested previous GM gas V8 HD's and they were screaming up the mountain the entire time without an issue. As long as you change the oil often enough and don't run 85 octane garbage, the engine won't have an issue with longevity.
Smokin' Joe's Pit BBQ the engines are just high spun Compared to dodge, ford, etc because of the lesser gears, 6 compared to 8, tends to leave the engine at a higher rpm for the same power outlet, saves your tranny from shifting so much I think
hochhaul 85 is fine at high elevation with less oxygen (if an engine is rated at 87 at sea level). You’re wasting your money if you think more octane = better no matter what.
@@alexs3187 This is engine is running higher compression than normal. We already know that the latest 5.3, even with direct injection, will pull power on 87 octane when under enough load. This 6.6 will be the exact same. You'll be able to use 87 but you won't always get the full power output if the engine is under a lot of load. Or 85 at higher elevations. This is a well documented thing.
hochhaul I know that’s the case for the half ton 6.2, but these heavy duties aren’t usually tuned for premium. Haven’t read the specs on the 6.6 however. Kind of stupid if they did tune it for premium.
Why not improve on the 8.1 liter..that was a real man's big block engine with plenty of power!!! There is no replacement for displacement...chevy needs to build a true big block making about 454 460 horses 560 600 foot pounds of torque and stop playing around with these lil small blocks tryin to do big block things!!!
Because this is basically 2020 and not 1989? How expensive will gas have to get before you realize towing with a 8.1L is just retarded? You can slap a turbo on a smaller engine and spank the 8.1L. Ohhh and still get better mpg.
Do you remember that the Vortec 8100 got about 11mpg unloaded on the highway? One of the worst fuel hogs on the planet. Meanwhile, this new 6.6 makes more horsepower and can see 17-18mpg on the highway. Almost 50% more efficient, and that's nothing to scoff at
@@charleshenson4183 Stole? LMAO that's all the Ford pussies ever want to talk. Everybody stealing Ford's ideas. The LS didn't steal the Y-block design. GM had already designed deep skirt engines before the Y-block was even introduced. But Ford fans, having an inferiority complex, saw the LS1 and started coming up with these pathetic theories of how GM stole the design. Fuckin pathetic LMAO. Ford gave up on pushrod engines 30 years ago. Now they come crawling back because they're too fuckin incompetent to make a decent DOHC engine for their HD trucks.
Sucks I like the idea of a strong v8 but seeing the newest v8 truck struggling makes me think diesel even though I don’t want the increase in cost and maintenance .
Somebody at GM decided to remove the 4.10 axle ratio option and replace it with the 3.73. The result is that the increased power is trying to turn a taller axle ratio and so that performance increase is somewhat negated.
@@getwrecked488 where the Torque is made is the most important part. The 6.2L is an Aluminum block, with a big cam and it's closer to the LT1 in the Camaro and corvette engines. The 6.2 is a beast, but if you've driven one, you know it's a high performance engine it makes is HP and torque fairly high in the RPM band. It needs premium fuel to make that power too. This 6.6 will make it's torque at a much low RPM than the 6.2., and to it with regular gas The 6.6 is an iron block work horse too,
Terrence Jones ah yes makes sense. I’m surprised though they didn’t come out with some higher hp/tq #’s with the 6.6. Will be interesting to see what the Ford 7.3 #’s will be.
The hood reach when trying to close it is out of reach for anyone under 6' so you need a cargo strap that hangs down so you can close the hood without using a step ladder.
The seats of this truck are horrible. There is not padding at your tail bone. Plus on the non upward adjustment seat you sit too far down if you are not 6 foot 6 or taller.
I can appreciate making this engine efficient and a more powerful engine. Why did General Motors just ad a supercharger. Average increase would be statistically significant and be a manageable daily driver. This drivers first inclination was to say it lacked power. This was the same comments from the fast lane when they towed the Ike gauntlet. Everything the engineer was talking to did not mean anything that driver wanted more power. On flat highway this would be sufficient but if u are attacking g altitude this truck would only make customers wonder why they did not get a diesel. If ur going to tow you have to have power. Give it some power.
Why does the 6.2 have more overall power than the 6.6? Then, you put a gigantic radiator but set the thermostat to 210 degrees 🤔? These new direct injected vehicle need to start including a factory oil catch can.
The 6.2 is a bigger bore, different stroke engine. This is ideally a 6.0 , with the same bore but with a different stroke from previous 6.0s making it a 6.6 .
@@XxbrandonxX234 yeah I get that. But why wouldn’t GM tune it to compete as a 6.6. Instead they could’ve saved money on a new engine platform and thrown the 6.2 in the HD that puts down overall, more power. If I was GM I would retune the 6.6 to like a reliable 430 hp with a low end 480 torque. We know it’s capable by it displacement.
@@MrNismopro I agree... however car manufacturers are always having to meet emissions ect. Its always easier to just put the least ,yet "most" possible performance meeting criteria.. that being said. Im sure pretty soon people are gonna start having these 6.6 tuned with hptuners making great numbers.
The old 6.0 outperformed the competition towing on TFL, and I figure this motor is going to be a big step forward in the entry level HD market. A good indicator in its build and durability, is that the hot rod crowd is already wanting to get their hands them because they're not going to die when abused.
@@danthemanbender5873 lol . I'm. Going to guess it's 3.73. gm doesn't have any other options in the HD platform. In the LD platforms you have 3.08 , 3.42 and 3.73 . 3.55 is a ford ratio I think
Direct injection sounds good but costs more to maintain because of the blow back oil into the air mass sensor . Gdi engine is not a long term engine. Please go look at Ford 7.3 gas engine
LOL what? What are you even talking about? DI causes blow back oil into the air mass sensor?? DI has nothing to do with oil being pulled into the intake. The only time oil gets pulled into the intake is when idiots put cold air intakes on the trucks and cause flow reversion. It has nothing to do with DI.
You might be refering to the PCV system causing carbon deposits on the intake valves . This has not been an issue with the 2014+ engines in the half tons. Besides even if it were , a simple oil catch can will prevent such thing from happening
@@EverydayJ1786 I have seen a lot of 2014+ GM V8's with DI and none of them have had an issue with carbon buildup. The only one that was an engine that was heavily modified and that caused PCV flow issues that pulled oil backwards into the intake via PCV inlet.
First stupid comment from driver, it is not floored but feels like it needs more power? It has more power he is just not using it. Things to keep in mind on trucks not just this one but all of them, build the truck you need. Is the truck going to spend all of its time towing, or is it also going to spend time empty, or going to pick up a load of stuff that may or may not hit the payload capacity with out a trailer? More power is available if you buy a diesel engine as is cost both initial and down the road. Some of these folks that do reviews are quite poor from a standpoint of using what they show to base any kind of purchasing decision on.
Wonder how many yrs it'll be before this engine gets a power bump. I realize they have to start low to leave room to grow but geez what a turd this is gonna be at first.
GM already has over 5 million Gen V small-block V8's with DI. Their DI system is pretty solid and they don't have the intake carbon buildup that others have had an issue with. I've seen engines with nearly 150k miles on them that had just a tiny amount of carbon on the valves despite never using intake cleaners or an air/oil separator aka "catch can". A well-designed PCV system is the most important part to controlling intake deposits. This engine has an air/oil separator built into the valve cover and the engine doesn't an an EGR, so it's not a problem.
@@freedomisntfree_44 I've had 5 6.0L chevy trucks. They're above and beyond the rest for performance and reliability. The trucks have quarks, but they are not junk. The RAMs and Fords wish they had a 6.0 powerhouse.
Rusty Nail the ford 6.2 smokes my 6.0 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve had no luck with gm and after all the Mexico crap I’ll never buy one unless it’s stupid cheap because that’s all they are worrh
What about the new Honda ridgeline....it might be better then the new chevy...put tow mirrors and a hitch in the bed for gooseneck and air bags on the rear..ready to out pull any of the big 3 hds...
Just when I thought it couldn’t get uglier! The guy that put dumbo ear mirrors on it and the horrible front end decided to put the ugliest rims on it!! Well done GM!!!! Here is for all the GM executives wake up U dumbasses BIG BLOCK! Only direct injection fleet sales will be non existent for people who leave trucks idling all day long!!!!!! 6 spd what is this 1999
Max power is within 100rpms. So no.. aluminum easier to cool and lighter. Only difference I see is the 6.6 has a slightly lower compression ratio. So it'll run on junk fuel. What I'm saying is the 6.6 is capable of more! Why did they down rate it. We've built a heavy duty engine yet we have much smaller displacement engines doing far greater.. this will flop.
@@cadorseeliger3926 The 6.2l is more for performance, not necessarily longevity under heavy use. The power curves are probably different too. I'm guessing that the 6.2l is not nearly as flat as the new 6.6l. Price point may also be an issue. The 6.6l may be cheaper to mass produce.
For the same reason everybody detunes their chassis cab trucks.. bigger stronger engine with lower power last a long longer than a smaller not as strong engine making more power under heavy load. If I took my 17 5.3 which makes essentially the same power as the 6.0 I would bet everyday of the week and twice on sundays that the 5.3 breaks before the 6.0 pulling a good sized load.
You do know that most ls motors are the exact same stroke just different bore? Tq numbers are where it's at. Plain and simple I see no reason why to replace a motor with smaller litres that makes more power. One could say the iron block could take more and I would agree depending on modifications. All stock... the 6.2 will still be more powerful, fuel efficient, and just as long of durability. Stock for stock. Now try that 6.6 with a turbo in a s10 maybe. We'll see what the aftermarket brings to the table. Stock though the 6.6 is unimpressive.
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves and resulting pathetic performance figures. A 6.6L gas engine at 3500 RPM should easily be cranking out 500 horses with corresponding torque. Again... another market miss at General Motors.
And this is why i left GM, the 6.2 had almost identical #s, The Looks of this thing is Horrible, The Interior is way behind everyone else, I love how they continually say they listened to the customers on what they want but there is absolutely no proof when there producing crap like this. There 4500's and up are way to big, the only thing ill give them credit for is they finally have there max tow #s up to match everyone else but that does not impress me when there ugly, uncomfortable, and cheap looking. I went to Ram a few years ago and havent considered going back to GM since, especially when i had nothing but Emission problems from my 2013 Duramax and the 15 Duramax i had. There Trucks are Garbage anymore
The 400 small block was the best gas engine Chevrolet ever produced. It only took 40 years to start producing it again. I got my order in 3 weeks ago. Can't wait.
I love the look of this new truck. So glad they increased the towing capacity. Will definitely be considering.
Why does anyone think an engine is "straining" just because it is operating at a higher rpm. Look at the numbers, that is where it operates most efficiently to produce the power needed and the pcm is programmed to keep the rpm there when the power is required. This new gas engine produces more horsepower than the turbo diesel engines, up until recently, so it is quite capable.
How much did it cost to build this truck in Mexico?
@@stephencormier9976 Flint, Michigan
Stephen Cormier good question. Fiat builds their 2500’s and 3500’s over there and I know it’s much cheaper.
All GMC and Chevrolet 2500 and 3500 trucks are built in Flint Michigan starting with the the 2020 model year.
I have OFTEN wondered this same question. YET, this question is always avoided.
Well boys, I just love trucks. I’ve had Chevy Silverado, two F150s (current is 2015 F150 Ecoboost 3.5), F100, and 1993 Dakota. But I’ve always wanted a 3/4 ton. No diesel for me.
Taka Yama As much as I’ve researched, I’d bank the cost of the diesel and use that for fuel/maintenance costs for 4 or 5 years.
Yea the m sure my needs would be fulfilled with a 2500/250 HD truck, one of either of the three big truck manufacturers has powered trucks. I would naturally have to test drive each one, with the new Godzilla in the Ford of course. As I could never see me needing a travel trailer bigger than 10k anyway and actually more around 8,000, mainly because I don’t like slides either.
Looking forward to hearing these things straight piped
This is with a flowmaster super 40
I remember 23 years ago we had 7.3 diesels, 6.5 diesels, 5.9 diesels, 440 gas, 460 and 454, today's engines pull so much more, 17,000 pounds, pull a 32 foot cattle trailer full of cows moving all over
One of the best looking trucks out there! And no, the gmc does NOT look better in my option. It does look very busy however, not my style. Chevy front end looks more aggressive with the marker lights up high above the headlights.
Toughest looking truck on the road that's for sure.
I got to test drive one of these a few months ago and I was very impressed with the power this thing makes. I also drove the 7.3 Ford and they were nearly identical feeling behind the wheel. The Chevy would benefit from the 10 speed. When matted the Chevy wound up to 6k and seemed like it was struggling at bit to get the last 500rpm before it shifted. The Ford seemed to get to 6k effortlessly with the 10 speed and the shifts were firm every time. The Ford did a little bit of gear hunting. For vehicles that weigh 7k they run pretty good and would be consider very fast for anything car or truck 20 years ago. You wouldn’t be disappointed with either truck if you want a 3/4 ton without the expense of a diesel. I also drove the Ram and it ran great until you stuck a heavy trailer on back. It just made a lot of great engine noise and really struggled on hills. Definitely needs another 80lbs of torque. We were towing 12k by the way at 700 to about a 1000 feet of altitude.
If Chevy/GMC would offer the gas engine with the Allison (branded) 10-speed used with the Duramax, even as an extra cost option, I'd buy this truck.
@@dantimber Agreed. The 6L90 is and excellent trans but the extra gears would be a huge advantage.
I'm not in a race to the top of the hill and pounding the truck to me is foolish. I put the transmission in manual, choose a gear for the best torque output, set the cruise and enjoy the ride. Have a 2021 on order, goodbye Duramax.
This truck also needs 4.10 gears instead of 3.73. This engine got big shots to fill from the outgoing 6.0.
Roadrunner 78 should be a stout motor. 401 hp out of a 6.6 v8 is very undertuned. This motor will last as long if not longer than the 6.0 no doubt. Bigger displacement so larger bearings, more surface area to work with.
You are exactly right. I just bought one of these trucks with the 6.6 and 3.73 gears. I has no pulling power under 3,000 rpms. Even towing my little 5,000lb cargo trailer this truck really has to rev from 3k-4k rpms to do it. That's ok if you like getting 7mpg while towing a small trailer. This engine does NOT tow better than my 05 2500 with 3.73 gears and a 6.0 engine. The 6.0 made more power down low under 3k rpms which gave it better fuel economy around 10mpg towing the same trailer. These new 6.6's need 4.10 gears real bad or a beefed up 10spd trans. But I rather go with 4.10's and the 6 speed because the 6spd trans would be cheaper to replace.
I'm looking forward to this motor. After seeing how the outgoing 6.0 outperformed the Ram and Ford gassers on TFL's Ike gauntlet, I think this is going to be a great entry level HD motor.
forearm shiver Ford's new 7.3 will make short work out of these ugly pigs.
@@wyo1446 doubtful. 7.3l is going to be much thirstier and probably have a taller gear than the chevy 3.73.
Rusty Nail I doubt that. Most F250s come with 4:10 diffs. And all big motors are thirsty, that's the price you pay
@@wyo1446 Yea, chevys used to use that ratio too. Things change.
That 7.3l will be thirstier than the 6.6l. That's the point. Why are ford lovers too retarded to understand a basic point made by anyone else?
WY O the port injection in the 7.3L as proven to hurt fuel economy vs the 6.6L direct injection
Wish they would do something different with that mirror arm .
Like the huge radiator so I can tow 17,000 lbs “anywhere in the galaxy.”
Best Chevy truck ever..its possible I've been turned from die hard GMC owner of decades !!
Seriously? That's the same truck, dude...
Lmao it's the same truck
But the chevy is ugly as hell.
@@dillonh321 bet with some wheels and tires maybe small lift would look amazing
@@miket2172
No it's the weird ass front end and weird shaped taillights. A lift and tires wont do shit.
It makes the power of a 454 Big Block that's really good.
It makes a lot more power than a 454. The last 454 put in a chevy hd; I think was in 1999 and it was rated at 290hp and 410 torque.
Maybe the last year of 454 was 2000.
Well in today's world this engines a major 💩
How so?
I tow in the Colorado Rockies. I thought maybe this was the answer for upgrading my 5.3 towing an 8K pound travel trailer. I drove my son in law's new 2024 6.6 GMC with the 10 speed. I was not impressed with the power on flat ground at 5k feet. I always wonder why GM doesn't take a clue from Ford's Ecoboost playbook and turbo charge the 5.3 or 6.0L for the HD. No DEF required. The Ike test on the 2020 6.6L didn't finish over 25 mph at 11,000 feet elevation towing it's max rated trailer. I am considering buying a 6.0L and adding a turbo.
Non-premium fuel sounds good, I wouldn’t want to tow on premium fuel
The truck is literally almost at his chin with the hood open. These new trucks are huge
my next truck thanks to new features and engine. vinyl seats.
How come the gasser does not have the active hood scoop? Should have at least been an option. Now I have to go too the parts counter and ask how much a conversion is gonna be. Yes that scoop is just as important on a gasser. How do you get that wrong. Let's see how much money they can save by making one type of hood liner. Yes I know , you also need the air box.
It seems to me it struggling,I don't think they got 4.10 gears in it.i mean it would still struggle but it would put the rpms up there where it can work.
If this thing had a 4:10, it would be doing 2000 rpm at 55,
The 10 speed would be great for that truck
Power output seems like it should be more . Wonder what this engine would act like after a Tune
The issue is that some idiot at GM decided to drop the 4.10 axle ratio and replace it with 3.73's. So they boosted engine power but made the axle ratio taller so the engine works harder. It probably won't improve in performance until GM starts using the 10-speed in the HD trucks, which will probably happen in a year or two.
@@hochhaul Then they will use 3.42 gears....
Came across this checking reviews.put deposit on 2022 custom.with plow and trailor package.heaviest is my dump trailor.14000 lbs.loaded. package. Is the 3500 frame and axles same as 2500??
Looks good in white..
When you gonna put the 10 speed transmission in it
How are you going to keep from having carbon buildup on the back side of the valves like all the other direct injection engines out there?
When are going to do a video on the 2022
Lets just see how long they last and how reliable they are or aren't. Cuz the 6.0 gas was bulletproof
Chevy engines are always good.
How does the DI keep the backside of the intake and exhaust valves clean and prevent carbon buildup?
This engine has a oil separator built in
Yes I notice it the Chevy was struggling. I think GM should have raised the power numbers.
For that size of motor; it would have been nice if it was rated at 430 hp and 490 torque. Although Ford refuses to release horse power and torque ratings right now for the new 7.3 gas; people are predicting it to be fairly high.
He said it was struggling, he also said he didn’t have the gas pedal all the way down. It was struggling give it some more gas. How heavy was the trailer. How steep is the grade on the hill, 4% 5% 6%?
@@mainwayne1352 yeah ..I agree..they left us out on lots of important info.. I hope this new motor is strong and powerful like bull.
Get a diesel if you need that kind of towing power. This is a job site truck not a towing beast
@@ohgodwhat1 interesting comparison. I don't work in that type of industry; what would a job site truck spend most of its time doing?
This dude said, anyway in the galaxy! @1:40 This a fucking spaceship!!!
Yeah but is it a good engine? Will it last?
How about a little detail? Like how much you're towing?
He just told you
How much weight was it towing? I like that truck
11,000 pounds
Nice truck but I'm 5ft 1 inch ...I guess I'll have to get a ladder to check the oil
You could buy a truck for midgets.
I’m only 5’8” so I carry a small collapsible step ladder, I have a tonneau cover and tie it off to the rear cargo ring with a flexible tie
Damn you know your job!
The gas engines might seem like their struggling but their not,its how their designed to work...Why is this a small block and not a big block?
he doesn't tow much. Its naturally aspirated and designed to run high rpms. if your going to review towing he needs to know what he is talking about.
They stopped making the big block over a decade ago, I think
What size is considered big block? This 6.6 is about 402 cod, seems large to me...
@@knaharrington627 bore centers determine small vs big block. Just going from memory here, GM small blocks have 4.4" bore centers vs. 4.84" for the big block.
@@Asamccp Thanks! Strange its called little or big 'block' & not 'bore'.
Tell that guy to put the 10 speed in it like the ford gasser.
I want one LTZ Z71 2020 .
Why did the edit of the video about struggling occur at 6:58? I’ve seen it before the editing and at the 7:00 mark the shotgun seat guy throws a mild insult out. Why the edit? Your review is what you felt driving the truck. Was there a kickback for the edit?
It’s a Chevy commercial. Why does the pain fall off of Chevys?
Offer it with lower gears half of us run big tires and 3.73 don't cut it
Needs 410s and the 10 speed. 6 speed chevy transmission is junk
What about those intake valves getting carbon from no upstream injection to clean them? Didnt mention that.......
What about carbon buildup
It hasn't been an issue on the GM v8's. The biggest source of carbon in the intake comes from the PCV system. GM designed a pretty serious air/oil separator that's integrated into the valve cover to prevent oil vapor from getting pulled out of the crankcase. I've seen Gen V 5.3's and 6.2's that were surprisingly clean at 150k to 200k miles. There was a 2015 Silverado 5.3 that was torture tested for 520k miles and that engine didn't have an issue with carbon deposits either. Not all DI engines are equal when it comes to carbon deposits.
@@hochhaul thanks was wondering my self i keep my trucks long term and looking for 6.2 but wasn't sure how the DI would do long term i feel better now
Should have focused more on the Tranfer Case. I just watched a video where the Transer Case BROKE w/ 20, I repeat 20 miles on it . Welcome to GM.
AS REAL AS IT GETS as if Fiat and Ford don’t have any problems, ever, right?
Every gm truck I've owned went passed 300k miles and all over worked since new
@@miket2172 Yea, & everything you read on the Internet must be true. Ironically, I am a Chevy owner for 25 years & even I don't believe this. But, as of late I will never own another GM. Easy to see there are much better choices.
@@asrealasitgets765 Chevy owner for 25 years.... a cavalier?
What's the gas mileage? Sounds like the engine wants to come apart at 4500rpm.
TFL Truck has tested previous GM gas V8 HD's and they were screaming up the mountain the entire time without an issue. As long as you change the oil often enough and don't run 85 octane garbage, the engine won't have an issue with longevity.
Smokin' Joe's Pit BBQ the engines are just high spun Compared to dodge, ford, etc because of the lesser gears, 6 compared to 8, tends to leave the engine at a higher rpm for the same power outlet, saves your tranny from shifting so much I think
hochhaul 85 is fine at high elevation with less oxygen (if an engine is rated at 87 at sea level). You’re wasting your money if you think more octane = better no matter what.
@@alexs3187 This is engine is running higher compression than normal. We already know that the latest 5.3, even with direct injection, will pull power on 87 octane when under enough load. This 6.6 will be the exact same. You'll be able to use 87 but you won't always get the full power output if the engine is under a lot of load. Or 85 at higher elevations. This is a well documented thing.
hochhaul I know that’s the case for the half ton 6.2, but these heavy duties aren’t usually tuned for premium. Haven’t read the specs on the 6.6 however. Kind of stupid if they did tune it for premium.
Why not improve on the 8.1 liter..that was a real man's big block engine with plenty of power!!! There is no replacement for displacement...chevy needs to build a true big block making about 454 460 horses 560 600 foot pounds of torque and stop playing around with these lil small blocks tryin to do big block things!!!
Because this is basically 2020 and not 1989? How expensive will gas have to get before you realize towing with a 8.1L is just retarded? You can slap a turbo on a smaller engine and spank the 8.1L. Ohhh and still get better mpg.
Do you remember that the Vortec 8100 got about 11mpg unloaded on the highway? One of the worst fuel hogs on the planet. Meanwhile, this new 6.6 makes more horsepower and can see 17-18mpg on the highway. Almost 50% more efficient, and that's nothing to scoff at
I like cubic inches too but if I can get better performance out of a little bit smaller engine then that's better.
GMC Sierra 2500 looks better
It really does. Not even close.
@@tbone0785 Just bought a 2020 HD Denali and it is freaking beautiful!
@@AIArchiveLabs I hope you know how to use it, I had to explain to some guy that his 2020 GMC 2500 Denali needs def.
@@Ckcdillpickle my gmc 2500 doesn’t need def
@@Denali_Rebel cool? didn't ask
Looking forward to Ford's 7.3
Their first pushrod V8 in decades... yeah that's going to be a fun one. It only took them 20 years to get OHC engines figured out decent enough.
@@hochhaul
Yep.
Pretty sure that they're going to use the tech that GM stole from them to create the LS platform of engines.
@@charleshenson4183 Stole? LMAO that's all the Ford pussies ever want to talk. Everybody stealing Ford's ideas. The LS didn't steal the Y-block design. GM had already designed deep skirt engines before the Y-block was even introduced. But Ford fans, having an inferiority complex, saw the LS1 and started coming up with these pathetic theories of how GM stole the design. Fuckin pathetic LMAO. Ford gave up on pushrod engines 30 years ago. Now they come crawling back because they're too fuckin incompetent to make a decent DOHC engine for their HD trucks.
Sucks I like the idea of a strong v8 but seeing the newest v8 truck struggling makes me think diesel even though I don’t want the increase in cost and maintenance .
I am thinking the exact same thing.
Somebody at GM decided to remove the 4.10 axle ratio option and replace it with the 3.73. The result is that the increased power is trying to turn a taller axle ratio and so that performance increase is somewhat negated.
@@hochhaul Seems like every time GM poops out more horsepower in one of their truck engines; they raise the axle ratio.
@@RF-nx9pm "Poops out"? Interesting. Up until now I was only aware of Ford using that method to make engines.
Exactly the same thought here
I hope you all raise the throttle response time my 2016 GMC Sierra 6 l gas falls flat on its face
be happy ur 6.0L is E-85 fles fuel. the 6.6 dont have this
The Chev/gm 6.2 v8 has the same amount of torque (460) and 20 more hp (420), why didn’t they just use it?
464lb of torque not 660.
It's not a commercial duty motor, as is with all half ton engines
forearm shiver what’s the difference? More displacement obviously, but hp and tq is hp and tq isn’t it?
@@getwrecked488 where the Torque is made is the most important part. The 6.2L is an Aluminum block, with a big cam and it's closer to the LT1 in the Camaro and corvette engines. The 6.2 is a beast, but if you've driven one, you know it's a high performance engine it makes is HP and torque fairly high in the RPM band. It needs premium fuel to make that power too. This 6.6 will make it's torque at a much low RPM than the 6.2., and to it with regular gas
The 6.6 is an iron block work horse too,
Terrence Jones ah yes makes sense. I’m surprised though they didn’t come out with some higher hp/tq #’s with the 6.6. Will be interesting to see what the Ford 7.3 #’s will be.
Mpg?
Mine averages 12 and I have a utility box full of tools.
Ricardo Gomez v8?
@@mv5596 yes
Ricardo Gomez thanks, not too bad it’s a big truck.
@@mv5596 when it was new it started at 9.5mph but the motor is now broken in so its doing a little better
The hood reach when trying to close it is out of reach for anyone under 6' so you need a cargo strap that hangs down so you can close the hood without using a step ladder.
Mans truck 😁
Or just go to side of the truck and lower it
This thing needed the new 10speed. Or at least an 8
Definitely no reason a 6.6 gas v8 with 500 pounds of torque engine needs to cruise at 70 at 2000RPM
@@BetaRacer24 gas mileage empty.... or towing for that matter, biggest reasons
@@toofastnobrakes which is where a 10 speed with a .55 10th while 8th is a .67 for OD towing
@@BetaRacer24 Totally wrong. There's every reason it needs to.
The seats of this truck are horrible. There is not padding at your tail bone. Plus on the non upward adjustment seat you sit too far down if you are not 6 foot 6 or taller.
Why is that 6.6L working so hard? They pull 8 ton with no problem, driver needs to let off the gas.
I can appreciate making this engine efficient and a more powerful engine. Why did General Motors just ad a supercharger. Average increase would be statistically significant and be a manageable daily driver. This drivers first inclination was to say it lacked power. This was the same comments from the fast lane when they towed the Ike gauntlet. Everything the engineer was talking to did not mean anything that driver wanted more power. On flat highway this would be sufficient but if u are attacking g altitude this truck would only make customers wonder why they did not get a diesel. If ur going to tow you have to have power. Give it some power.
Why does the 6.2 have more overall power than the 6.6? Then, you put a gigantic radiator but set the thermostat to 210 degrees 🤔? These new direct injected vehicle need to start including a factory oil catch can.
The 6.2 is a bigger bore, different stroke engine. This is ideally a 6.0 , with the same bore but with a different stroke from previous 6.0s making it a 6.6 .
@@XxbrandonxX234 yeah I get that. But why wouldn’t GM tune it to compete as a 6.6. Instead they could’ve saved money on a new engine platform and thrown the 6.2 in the HD that puts down overall, more power. If I was GM I would retune the 6.6 to like a reliable 430 hp with a low end 480 torque. We know it’s capable by it displacement.
@@MrNismopro I agree... however car manufacturers are always having to meet emissions ect. Its always easier to just put the least ,yet "most" possible performance meeting criteria.. that being said. Im sure pretty soon people are gonna start having these 6.6 tuned with hptuners making great numbers.
"I dont really tow too often" and "I dont know how much weight we're towing." Why the hell are you reviewing it then?
Out of all of the videos it seems like this truck is struggling I wonder has anyone else noticed
David Austin TFL truck did a video same thing for a new big v8 not very impressive towing vids so far .
Agreed . Wonder what axle ratio these Gaga's engines have , 3.73 or 4.10 ?
@@EverydayJ1786 prolly 3:55 🤣🤣🤣🤣 since it was struggling!
The old 6.0 outperformed the competition towing on TFL, and I figure this motor is going to be a big step forward in the entry level HD market. A good indicator in its build and durability, is that the hot rod crowd is already wanting to get their hands them because they're not going to die when abused.
@@danthemanbender5873 lol . I'm. Going to guess it's 3.73. gm doesn't have any other options in the HD platform.
In the LD platforms you have 3.08 , 3.42 and 3.73 .
3.55 is a ford ratio I think
Direct injection sounds good but costs more to maintain because of the blow back oil into the air mass sensor . Gdi engine is not a long term engine. Please go look at Ford 7.3 gas engine
Blow back oil into the mass air flow sensor ?? ==== You're an idiot . Clearly You know nothing
LOL what? What are you even talking about? DI causes blow back oil into the air mass sensor?? DI has nothing to do with oil being pulled into the intake. The only time oil gets pulled into the intake is when idiots put cold air intakes on the trucks and cause flow reversion. It has nothing to do with DI.
You might be refering to the PCV system causing carbon deposits on the intake valves . This has not been an issue with the 2014+ engines in the half tons. Besides even if it were , a simple oil catch can will prevent such thing from happening
@@EverydayJ1786 I have seen a lot of 2014+ GM V8's with DI and none of them have had an issue with carbon buildup. The only one that was an engine that was heavily modified and that caused PCV flow issues that pulled oil backwards into the intake via PCV inlet.
@@hochhaul exactly right . I haven't seen any either . People just jump to conclusions about things they know nothing about
Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is clear to the bone. Lol!
Pulling stumps??? That is best left to a tractor.
Wish you had put an 8speed behind it
Mike Hunt or ten
Hell no! That 8 speed is junk. The 6l90e is by far a more stout transmission. I would say 10 speed and 6, screw those pos gm 8 speeds!
ReeseMuny504 ide rather see that as well but I doubt they will 😕
First stupid comment from driver, it is not floored but feels like it needs more power? It has more power he is just not using it. Things to keep in mind on trucks not just this one but all of them, build the truck you need. Is the truck going to spend all of its time towing, or is it also going to spend time empty, or going to pick up a load of stuff that may or may not hit the payload capacity with out a trailer? More power is available if you buy a diesel engine as is cost both initial and down the road. Some of these folks that do reviews are quite poor from a standpoint of using what they show to base any kind of purchasing decision on.
Wonder how many yrs it'll be before this engine gets a power bump.
I realize they have to start low to leave room to grow but geez what a turd this is gonna be at first.
Your going up a mountain, against the wind, pulling 17400 lbs 3/4 throttle wanting a little more power,, what a dumb driver!
So why not use the 6.2 has more up and tourq
Sad they didn't do 10 speed and 4.10 gears. For the same money I can get the Ford 7.3 and 10 speed
Build a big block for Christ sake!
“Idk how heavy I’m pulling but I feel like it’s lacking power”
Huh?
Direct injection will be junk. Better keep your seafoam handy
GM already has over 5 million Gen V small-block V8's with DI. Their DI system is pretty solid and they don't have the intake carbon buildup that others have had an issue with. I've seen engines with nearly 150k miles on them that had just a tiny amount of carbon on the valves despite never using intake cleaners or an air/oil separator aka "catch can". A well-designed PCV system is the most important part to controlling intake deposits. This engine has an air/oil separator built into the valve cover and the engine doesn't an an EGR, so it's not a problem.
hochhaul well I’ve had 2, 6.0 and 6.2. The 6.0 needed lifters at 102k and 6.2 needed a whole new engine at only 79k! gm is cheap garbage.
@@freedomisntfree_44 I've had 5 6.0L chevy trucks. They're above and beyond the rest for performance and reliability. The trucks have quarks, but they are not junk. The RAMs and Fords wish they had a 6.0 powerhouse.
Rusty Nail the ford 6.2 smokes my 6.0 🤷🏼♂️ I’ve had no luck with gm and after all the Mexico crap I’ll never buy one unless it’s stupid cheap because that’s all they are worrh
@@freedomisntfree_44 Well, I've had no luck with Ford. To each their own.
What about the new Honda ridgeline....it might be better then the new chevy...put tow mirrors and a hitch in the bed for gooseneck and air bags on the rear..ready to out pull any of the big 3 hds...
Who let you near a computer? Is there a number I can call? 😆
Let him pull a 30 ft trailer trailer see how it does
Just when I thought it couldn’t get uglier! The guy that put dumbo ear mirrors on it and the horrible front end decided to put the ugliest rims on it!! Well done GM!!!! Here is for all the GM executives wake up U dumbasses BIG BLOCK! Only direct injection fleet sales will be non existent for people who leave trucks idling all day long!!!!!! 6 spd what is this 1999
The 2020 Super Duty is still going to use the 6 speed in some configurations. Ram still uses 6-speeds on their 2020 diesel HD's.
6.2 vortec makes more power so.. why?
Different rpm range for power, different fuel needs, cast iron vs aluminum.
Max power is within 100rpms. So no.. aluminum easier to cool and lighter. Only difference I see is the 6.6 has a slightly lower compression ratio. So it'll run on junk fuel. What I'm saying is the 6.6 is capable of more! Why did they down rate it. We've built a heavy duty engine yet we have much smaller displacement engines doing far greater.. this will flop.
@@cadorseeliger3926 The 6.2l is more for performance, not necessarily longevity under heavy use. The power curves are probably different too. I'm guessing that the 6.2l is not nearly as flat as the new 6.6l.
Price point may also be an issue. The 6.6l may be cheaper to mass produce.
For the same reason everybody detunes their chassis cab trucks.. bigger stronger engine with lower power last a long longer than a smaller not as strong engine making more power under heavy load. If I took my 17 5.3 which makes essentially the same power as the 6.0 I would bet everyday of the week and twice on sundays that the 5.3 breaks before the 6.0 pulling a good sized load.
You do know that most ls motors are the exact same stroke just different bore? Tq numbers are where it's at. Plain and simple I see no reason why to replace a motor with smaller litres that makes more power. One could say the iron block could take more and I would agree depending on modifications. All stock... the 6.2 will still be more powerful, fuel efficient, and just as long of durability. Stock for stock. Now try that 6.6 with a turbo in a s10 maybe. We'll see what the aftermarket brings to the table. Stock though the 6.6 is unimpressive.
Is he standing in a hole? He can barely see the engine.
@Ella Kociba
😂 Trucks are getting pretty tall.
Not ah gas guy but only reason I wouldn’t get it is because the shitty powder metal rods 🤕 watch the 6.6 gas reviews 🤦🏼♂️
AZTEK ENGINEERS HAVE ENTERED THE CHAT
A good one, Preston. Aztek. Whew, hurts my eyes just thinking about that thing.
GM does not listen to there consumers they are the absolute worst at it in the truck game and it shows here in the comments
I was all in until he said our 6speed transmission 😡 its a piece of crap that knocks and bangs
I WANT A BIG BLOCK IN A NEW TRUCK THATS 80 GRAND NOT A SILLY SMALL BLOCK
Bring the 8.1 back and an actual Allison transmission, not the fake Allison behind the duramax.
That Chevrolet in the front is hideous.
It’s so ugly it could be electric. 6.6 L and they’re calling it small block,figures...
It is a stroked 6.0 ls small block. Displacement does not indicate block size.
haha..you said RPMs
6.6L small block lol
Probably can’t reach that torque till 6000 rpm
How about bring the power back down low
max torque is at 4k rpms
Shame such a capable truck . The ugliest one they’ve ever built
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves and resulting pathetic performance figures. A 6.6L gas engine at 3500 RPM should easily be cranking out 500 horses with corresponding torque. Again... another market miss at General Motors.
In what dream, Troll?
I am tired of my UA-cam feed continually suggesting videos of this FUGLY and expensive truck.
What a joke anywhere in the galaxy stick to earth gm Ford is going to top u again shortly
4 4 That’s what I said, “the galaxy”?
Huh?
Typical ford owner. You can't write a complete sentence, yet you're an expert on trucks?
Gm fan at its finest
@@user-sv9sf1ns7g So, you're implying that GM fans are literate?
And this is why i left GM, the 6.2 had almost identical #s, The Looks of this thing is Horrible, The Interior is way behind everyone else, I love how they continually say they listened to the customers on what they want but there is absolutely no proof when there producing crap like this. There 4500's and up are way to big, the only thing ill give them credit for is they finally have there max tow #s up to match everyone else but that does not impress me when there ugly, uncomfortable, and cheap looking. I went to Ram a few years ago and havent considered going back to GM since, especially when i had nothing but Emission problems from my 2013 Duramax and the 15 Duramax i had. There Trucks are Garbage anymore
Enjoy your fiat
@@imyourhuckleberry4547 i will, at lesst its comfortable, looks better, and more reliable.