The Hidden Mid Mordekaiser Main in KR Challenger

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  • @LoLDobby
    @LoLDobby  2 місяці тому +63

    It's especially effective against melee champions-it's stronger than you'd expect
    But be careful. It can be weakness against ranged AP champions
    www.deeplol.gg/summoner/kr/%E7%88%B1%E7%A9%BF%E7%B2%89%E8%89%B2%E8%A3%A4%E5%A4%B4-%E8%8A%B1%E7%94%B0%E9%94%99/mastery
    You can check the CN Mordekaiser main's build here▲

    • @moo4700
      @moo4700 2 місяці тому +2

      looks like brodie sold his account, respect

    • @weylyn_luke8972
      @weylyn_luke8972 2 місяці тому +2

      Only for the fact he strangely plays jng now and he changed flash from F to D

    • @rainbowlover8900
      @rainbowlover8900 Місяць тому

      He's still playing mid morde

  • @eebbaa5560
    @eebbaa5560 2 місяці тому +276

    there was a time when i would just scroll through dobby’s videos looking for off-meta builds to terrorize my solo queue games with… i miss those days…

    • @lucratyo2285
      @lucratyo2285 2 місяці тому +10

      now either CN Top Player OTP/Meta champ

    • @elkhatabielmondhir
      @elkhatabielmondhir 2 місяці тому +13

      Nunu Midlane video changed my life for the better. I wholeheartedly believe William Mid is an S tier trollpick.

    • @RevRust
      @RevRust 2 місяці тому

      @@lucratyo2285for low elo yeah sure

    • @nooneatall5612
      @nooneatall5612 2 місяці тому +38

      I mean, a month ago he covered Singed ADC, doesn't get any more off meta than that

    • @lucratyo2285
      @lucratyo2285 2 місяці тому +2

      @@nooneatall5612 its not offmeta ,its just weirdpick/cheese not everybody can copypasta something like that , ot least mid singed with predator more make sense

  • @kurioman
    @kurioman 2 місяці тому +166

    2:55 it's even more than that, he miss Q intentionally to play mind game with talon. Since he missed, talon wont be on the edge of dodging it, making the flash Q guaranted since talon CANT react to it.
    Talon have to predict it and win the mind game if he wanted to survive

    • @deivigabriel161
      @deivigabriel161 2 місяці тому +1

      WTF he's a genius

    • @glebmerkuriev235
      @glebmerkuriev235 2 місяці тому +10

      Yeah yeah, in my games its called trolling

    • @ttv_zombiefetus1710
      @ttv_zombiefetus1710 2 місяці тому +6

      Insane glaze

    • @Kassadin.
      @Kassadin. 2 місяці тому +1

      even if he actually misses that Q, talon is nowhere close to killing him there, just for show

    • @ardaozcan8336
      @ardaozcan8336 Місяць тому +1

      its a classic play amongst champions with precast flash combos or whatever they're called. Aatrox Q, Sett W, Darius Q, Talon W and many more. I would not say its GENIUS.

  • @Polypuff
    @Polypuff 2 місяці тому +197

    • @LoLDobby
      @LoLDobby  2 місяці тому +44

    • @PoXyaTS
      @PoXyaTS 2 місяці тому +17

      even on yt, he just can't stop roaming

    • @natdaone5075
      @natdaone5075 2 місяці тому +1

      Spellbook Bard video coming? 👀

    • @notsojharedtroll23
      @notsojharedtroll23 2 місяці тому

      ​@@PoXyaTS dedication to the craft, If I do say so myself

  • @Meowdekaiser
    @Meowdekaiser 2 місяці тому +30

    Oh, I remembered seeing this guy from last season, he used to be known as wudlifeipo or something like that.
    Only recently this split has he made the change to go to mid lane which he seems to be (evidently) finding a lot of success with because most of the matchups he seems to be going against can easily be countered by running phase rush or crushed by using conqueror.
    ( His top five most played against this split being sylas, yone, aurora, corki, and galio; mostly close to mid-range champions which he can easily counter using the previously stated runes ).
    However, champions that significantly outrange him to a point where he cannot even gap close with rocketbelt + rylais + E + R such as control / artillery mages ( with the exception of hwei which is his perma ban and Orianna ) are almost never seen in his match history in comparison to the vast majority of his games which are melee.
    Now, this may be because of a variety of factors; ( the meta, the fact that everyone wants to replicate faker's picks this worlds, etc. ), but the point still stands that as of right now, a majority of the champions that Mordekaiser is going against, favor him instead ( until riot decides they have had at enough of close range to mid range mid laners ).

  • @amadeus3216
    @amadeus3216 2 місяці тому +18

    Dobby, can you analize Husum? He has reached Challenger with Swain and with the new changes a video from you would be amazing!!

  • @bybasick7905
    @bybasick7905 2 місяці тому +71

    As a retired master player, my most crushing defeats came from toplane champions played mid. Sion, Yorick, Tryndamere. No wonders it can also be morde..

    • @PaladineAvenger1
      @PaladineAvenger1 2 місяці тому +13

      you know that toplane such a trash lane when not so great toplane champions going mid and suddenly ripping the game apart lol

    • @FactsDawg
      @FactsDawg 2 місяці тому

      I play yorick mid lately and it is so much fun

    • @lucratyo2285
      @lucratyo2285 2 місяці тому +2

      and mage go bot , bot go top , sup stay sup

    • @AlpnzAMV
      @AlpnzAMV 2 місяці тому +10

      As a current master player my most crushing defeats are either someone playing passive for 20 minutes with 200cs 0/0/0 gameplay and it still worksout despite them not fighting a single skill check or a roam champion flips a shit roam despite losing tons of cs and plates somehow wins the gamble and snowballs the game. These 2 are the most annoying midlaner you can face as a comeptitive player imo.

    • @bajojajo7745
      @bajojajo7745 2 місяці тому

      @@lucratyo2285 sup roams everywhere

  • @LISA.WANG.
    @LISA.WANG. 2 місяці тому +1

    This channel is becoming my hub for finding good music 👌

  • @ebobab9564
    @ebobab9564 2 місяці тому +24

    3:25 one common misconcepziom about Morde is jis passive. His autos actually often deal more dmg than his shroud

    • @minhocho5487
      @minhocho5487 2 місяці тому +2

      I used to build nashors because of this

    • @monke4044
      @monke4044 2 місяці тому +5

      Ofc it was his auto lol, every melee champ's main damage source comes from their AA when it comes to early game since skill damage is yet to be reliable. But his passive is what makes the play possible, it basically doubles his damage on the early game phase.

    • @lancetolentino5450
      @lancetolentino5450 2 місяці тому +1

      yeahh, and considering the Conquerors

    • @weylyn_luke8972
      @weylyn_luke8972 2 місяці тому +10

      His autos have AP scaling better than his AOE passive. That's what he was trying to say.

  • @cardie9865
    @cardie9865 2 місяці тому +31

    Oh my god Mord does the Noxian salute Ambessa does in Arcane. During his w sheild.

    • @hertogvandamme
      @hertogvandamme 2 місяці тому +17

      He's just banging the metal, like a Gorrila. He's basically saying he's invincible

    • @gemineon
      @gemineon 2 місяці тому +4

      Has visto demasiado ARCANE. Incluso Mordekaiser ya hacia ese gesto desde su rework hace años atras. Es solo un gesto para demostrar al enemigo lo resistente que es.

    • @baldrofasgard4793
      @baldrofasgard4793 2 місяці тому +1

      Mordekaiser was king of noxus before it was even called Noxus lmao

    • @DealtwithImpunity
      @DealtwithImpunity 2 місяці тому

      Lol arcane fans morde is an immortal being of the shadow isles you think he is a noxian?

    • @Qeboflu
      @Qeboflu Місяць тому

      @@DealtwithImpunity he is a noxian???

  • @jachu1125
    @jachu1125 2 місяці тому +16

    If ranged matchups are harder, why haven’t you focused on them? There is one clip with ranged enemy mid in this video. There is no reason to discuss laning phase in a good matchup. I sadly didnt learn anything about mordekaiser mid

    • @boneskewedface
      @boneskewedface 2 місяці тому +7

      probably because especially in challenger it's nigh impossible to make a play with morde against ranged in the early levels, and before belt. I would assume he plays similar to ekko or fizz but more preserved since he doesn't have a dash and enemy has to be basically inting to get hit by e. So you likely chill, heal with dshield + w + second wind and farm for lv6 and rocketbelt spikes. There is multiple clips of him going phase rush, and there is the aurora clip, so it can't be terrible.

    • @boneskewedface
      @boneskewedface 2 місяці тому +1

      top champs w sustain in their kit terrorizing mid with running healing runes + doran isn't a new thing. garen, trynd and renekton are a few of the many examples

    • @LoLDobby
      @LoLDobby  2 місяці тому +9

      I understand, and I actually tried to find matchups against ranged enemies to include clips of Mordekaiser being pressured. Unfortunately, I only found two games, and even those had fairly uneventful laning phases, so there wasn't much to include. I apologize for that

  • @koin799
    @koin799 2 місяці тому

    The rumble build that singed used to run during s11. Has a special place for me.

  • @dishonored6116
    @dishonored6116 2 місяці тому +1

    It's so weird because I play Morde mid when I don't get jungle. It's really hard to lose with him mid because you just out sustain them and hard to get caught if you run Flash Ghost.

  • @Kimeowra
    @Kimeowra 2 місяці тому +9

    The more I play this game and the better I get at it, the least I enjoy these videos. Maybe they are cool for low mmr players as they can just pick these picks up in a normal game, but the video barely shows anything. This guy looks like he developped a whole playstyle with phase rush, and we don't get a single analysis on it or any clips of it. You're showing clips where he misses everything and stat checks them with AA (which tbf, all come from the stat stealing ult) with an overlay text describing some form of deep thought process he had to go through. He AAed the viego to death and missed everything, that's it. All of these are fine if you're trying to highlight how strong Mord's ult is, but we don't want 5 straight minute of this. Viewers are going to watch this, queue up to try it out and get stuck vs a lux that just zones them all game. The most likely matchups (range, easy to play mages like Lux or Ahri) haven't even been convered besides the mention of phase rush. Hell, he didn't even rush rocketbelt against most melee matchups, so most of the video didn't cover the tech in the first place.
    Like sure, I could probably pilot this since I got about just enough info to do so, but your videos aren't aiming at higher elo players who can infer matchups and builds off of a couple clips. Make it easier for the average player to pick it up. Show us the range match ups. Show us how he plays vs aggressive players, passive players. Show us how he plays when behind (more than just being low in a good match up). Show us why this player is so good and why I should try morde mid.
    None if this clickbait BS where only a couple clips include the actual strat from the title/thumbnail.

    • @taculo3231
      @taculo3231 15 днів тому

      Preach my guy, i wish there was a channel that actually analysed in depth with off meta strats and didnt just go for the wow factor, the fact that there wasnt a single video shown of him going against the most likely counters like control mages or how he deals with the midgame at all is just... saddening

  • @x8sNaKe8x
    @x8sNaKe8x 2 місяці тому +12

    04:50 miss every skill shot still auto'd to death kekw

    • @tymontracz7505
      @tymontracz7505 2 місяці тому +3

      Same thing with yone

    • @Gethog
      @Gethog 2 місяці тому +1

      This the kind of stuff that makes me feel like mord isn't balanced properly

    • @EclairTw
      @EclairTw Місяць тому +4

      @@Gethog Brother he's fighting a morde ulted/ignited Viego with D shield. He should be able to kill him with strictly autos.

    • @notsaucy6877
      @notsaucy6877 Місяць тому +1

      @@Gethog viego is just one of the worst 1v1 bruisers and he didn't hit any abiltiies either + ult and ignite diff really not surprising at all

    • @IGOR..........
      @IGOR.......... Місяць тому

      another braindead champs, simply

  • @quieness
    @quieness 2 місяці тому

    I used to like doing this build on morde jg and other ap immobile champs cus the cool interaction with rocketbelt+rylais

  • @brayancatano136
    @brayancatano136 2 місяці тому

    Best league content on youtube

  • @thanhtungbui567
    @thanhtungbui567 2 місяці тому +1

    This feels like a swain but in melee form

  • @ПавелМалютин-д7ш
    @ПавелМалютин-д7ш 27 днів тому +1

    I dont think this is hidden for midlaners who are not meta slaves, I've been doing this on my morde mid since the Rocketbelt was introduced. Ofc im not chall but thats a different story, the main thing its not hidden. But it was interesting to watch, especially for me.

  • @manuelmanolo7099
    @manuelmanolo7099 2 місяці тому

    Damn that kindred ult at 9:01 made me laugh so hard

  • @monke4044
    @monke4044 2 місяці тому +1

    These off meta picks can be some real OP strat if mastered, that's why they works, cuz most ppl doesn't know how to deal against them.

  • @genxd3974
    @genxd3974 2 місяці тому +1

    Rocketbelt and Rylai is basically pre-nerfed/pre-reworked Stridebreaker :D

  • @Goondius
    @Goondius 2 місяці тому +1

    We have hextech glp at home.
    Hextech glp at home:

  • @blacklight1104
    @blacklight1104 2 місяці тому +14

    The rift is just one big giant roulette with the roles rotating all around. From bot->top, top->mid, to mid->bot and so on and so on. Who says you have to play the same role as the opponent anyways?
    The challenge is in overcoming that role disparity and using it to your advantage. There's a certain joy to be had from overcoming that whether it'd be a juggernaut just running down a "cowardly" ranged top, a tank just absorbing damage while the mage runs out of mana or a mage just blowing up a marksman before she even fires a shot. The same can also be true vice versa.
    Just make sure you know what you're doing and you win. Otherwise, you deserve the incoming flame.
    Other notable abilities you can nullify with Mord ult:
    Any non-targeted skill shot before it hits you
    Akali shroud
    Yone's return to his corporeal form (he can't press E to get back unless he presses it the exact moment you press R)
    Kindred ult
    Sion charged Q
    Any ability with pets or created terrain are left behind if summoned before (Annie's Tibbers, Yorick's ghouls and maiden, Naafiri's hounds, Veigar's cage, Azir's sand soldiers including ult, Jarvan's crater, Illaoi tentacles and siphoned soul, Trundle frozen domain and pillar, Aurora's spirit domain, etc.)
    Feel free to add it in case I missed others.

  • @Hiuzk
    @Hiuzk 2 місяці тому +2

    The Oldkaiser build.

  • @damiandawid2747
    @damiandawid2747 2 місяці тому

    really good informative video about playing mordekaiser wp

  • @renl8133
    @renl8133 2 місяці тому +3

    Thought for sure this would be xiaochaomeng

  • @alexrez179
    @alexrez179 2 місяці тому +6

    It's interesting how he is going up against mainly melee champions in this video - Sylas, Yone, Akali etc.
    But a good ranged AP mid player will absolutely crush this guy. He probably dodges Ori matchups lmao

    • @Wingsaber
      @Wingsaber Місяць тому +2

      Fr, I wanted to try this and I'm like 90% against ranged harass in my games, so I wanted to see tips on how the morde player plays vs those matchups but alas those tips never came T.T

    • @d.r.u.g.s4229
      @d.r.u.g.s4229 Місяць тому

      @@WingsaberMy only advice is Doran shield start, second wind rune, get a refillable on first back and just sustain/mitigate harass with W. Also try not to trade your hp for minions unless you can block with W.

  • @Tomikes540
    @Tomikes540 2 місяці тому +1

    Cool to see video on this guy, since I was checking his opgg like 2 weeks ago, thanks

  • @xSchockZz
    @xSchockZz 2 місяці тому

    I have one question. At the beginning when he fought akali he can see akali like 10 times per second "pulsing" when she is stealth, vecause his passive ticks reveal her location. But In my games these "pulses" only apear like once per second. I play on 240fps.

    • @gabgon6045
      @gabgon6045 2 місяці тому

      Mine is like the video, I play on 60 fps. My effects are on medium I think. Besides that not sure what it could be.

  • @Sagee4
    @Sagee4 2 місяці тому +1

    Counters are actually Leblanc and Sylas , Sylas is beatable but super annoying if you get caught early.
    Mages are almost always free win if you land E they just die

    • @lfportugal
      @lfportugal 2 місяці тому

      this champ has no counter.

    • @bca131
      @bca131 2 місяці тому +5

      but there's only a ranged champed in this clip, most of the matchups are melee. Morde beats everyone easily, but you suffer too much in laning phase vs ranged poke

    • @AndroidMarginau
      @AndroidMarginau 2 місяці тому

      ​@@lfportugali was picking yorick before they remove the qss interaction with morde ult

  • @fullsoul5727
    @fullsoul5727 2 місяці тому +5

    rocketbelt applying rylai slow is an interesting interaction. i wonder if it's viable on other immobile ap bruisers

    • @therrogue1193
      @therrogue1193 2 місяці тому

      Who else buy those two aside morde tho,singed doesnt even buy rocketbelt usually and gwen,galio and gragas doesnt buy rylais.

    • @br1anwo0d
      @br1anwo0d 2 місяці тому +1

      gragas mains have been coping with rocket belt and rylai since everfrost was deleted lol

    • @jakes935
      @jakes935 2 місяці тому

      Vlad ?@therrogue1193

  • @Fran_32
    @Fran_32 2 місяці тому +1

    baby wake up, another soloq ruiner dropped

  • @Ajaqay
    @Ajaqay 2 місяці тому

    Whats the song you used in the beginning? this shit hard

  • @Kywu
    @Kywu 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey, i wanna know why does Orianna and Hwei counter him

    • @therrogue1193
      @therrogue1193 2 місяці тому +4

      Almost imposible to close the gap agaist those two with their slow and cc.

    • @lenoub5133
      @lenoub5133 2 місяці тому

      In the video he faces only melee champion in laning phase :/. I think morde lose a lot of match up midlane if ennemy knows the champion

  • @gergelyritter4412
    @gergelyritter4412 2 місяці тому +1

    Mhhh I see. So you are playing assassin-tank Morde mid. Phenomenal. I'll try my hand at it.
    I mean most of the things shown are just standard Morde trading, laning phase, etc, but there were some crisp things in there as well. As someone, whose 3rd main is Morde, I approve of this.

  • @kurux
    @kurux 2 місяці тому

    This video remind me the times when i was playing morde in the adc role, was incredible fun and broken 😂

  • @supremeone4084
    @supremeone4084 2 місяці тому +1

    So we found reason for morde nerfs

  • @Gethog
    @Gethog 2 місяці тому

    Can someone explain how they feel Mord's ult is balanced against like 90% of champs?

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz Місяць тому

    blotrk terminus jaksho riftmaker rylais also pretty decent on mordi (chali+ only)

  • @alphacino3514
    @alphacino3514 Місяць тому

    You forget to mention that this dude has 40% winrate in mid x)

  • @cringe9626
    @cringe9626 2 місяці тому

    Hello brother, I'm a returning riven onetrick and I'm currently struggling a bit adjusting my playstyle, would really appreciate a video on any top riven players atm❤❤

  • @ahmadserhal5939
    @ahmadserhal5939 2 місяці тому

    This build could work really well on swain
    Railais+ rocket belt

    • @weylyn_luke8972
      @weylyn_luke8972 2 місяці тому +1

      You need mana on Swain to function unfortunately. It sounds good but you run out of mana in 2 combos

  • @jeomaxx7499
    @jeomaxx7499 2 місяці тому

    played mid mordekaiser before it was so fun!

  • @Timestampers
    @Timestampers 2 місяці тому

    I already see its potential before nerfing again.

  • @nater8410
    @nater8410 2 місяці тому

    imagine showing morde mid vs 1-7 adc and he need to use flash ulti protobelt and he kill her in more than 2 sec. When any ad mid could do it in 0,3 sec

  • @Royboyy_
    @Royboyy_ 2 місяці тому

    Vid on Ap Kog botlane next :D

  • @TenTiggers
    @TenTiggers 2 місяці тому +4

    brasil es numero uno huehuehue

  • @neroly727
    @neroly727 2 місяці тому

    somehow i thought that was pyke with rocketbelt..

  • @NikkiTT_
    @NikkiTT_ 2 місяці тому

    Fanboy, but I respect the grind. Been doing this since Day 1.

  • @Unknown-gc7tn
    @Unknown-gc7tn 2 місяці тому +7

    Wait is this Cho mid 2.0?

  • @rita-the-devil
    @rita-the-devil 2 місяці тому

    it feels so suspicious that you haven't put any morde vs ranged matchup clips in here... hmmmm...

  • @guilhermealmeida-ic8nm
    @guilhermealmeida-ic8nm 2 місяці тому

    Husum video incoming? 😊

  • @BakiHammerr
    @BakiHammerr 2 місяці тому

    Nice build

  • @boris495
    @boris495 Місяць тому

    I mean yeah is very cool but only showing matchup vs melee? what's the point?, we all know morde is pretty strong vs any melee but most of the time in my experience you will be facing a ranged champion where there isn't much to do besides playing safe without impact and waiting lane phase to end.

  • @Genxim
    @Genxim 2 місяці тому

    I AM NOT DONE WITH YOU

  • @YuraNebov
    @YuraNebov 2 місяці тому

    Epic!

  • @akimbocarrots6005
    @akimbocarrots6005 2 місяці тому

    counters: hwei, orianna both of my mains lol

  • @Prototype-hq9ub
    @Prototype-hq9ub 2 місяці тому

    Cant wait to come back from work today and face 391847623182534 morde mids

  • @br14nn14
    @br14nn14 2 місяці тому

    Olaf counters too

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev 2 місяці тому

      You're probably not seeing him mid

  • @spamaxsoowy3654
    @spamaxsoowy3654 Місяць тому

    DO NOT MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT TTV NYX1V9, KEEP IT A SECRET

  • @Luke-sz2ir
    @Luke-sz2ir 2 місяці тому

    legedn says that this guy beat faker

  • @AW-ex9ij
    @AW-ex9ij 2 місяці тому

    Perma banned is good til now ... Even then can qss his Stupid R @.@"

  • @Apoz
    @Apoz Місяць тому

    Same

  • @eltino49
    @eltino49 2 місяці тому

    Wow who would have thought mid mordekaiser, an AP bruiser could be good in mid and have cons as it has pros 🤓🤓 truly an outstanding discovery going on here.
    Good video tho 👍

  • @лютыйкринжер
    @лютыйкринжер 2 місяці тому +1

    >yone
    >weak
    still talking bullshit

  • @v_enceremos
    @v_enceremos 2 місяці тому

    top morde is just better

  • @lfportugal
    @lfportugal 2 місяці тому

    most disgusting champ on the game

  • @oakclips
    @oakclips 2 місяці тому

    broken champ is broken in every role 😱😱

  • @GBProzPeX
    @GBProzPeX 2 місяці тому

    Thank you I needed this!🫡☝🏽

  • @somyeol804
    @somyeol804 2 місяці тому +1

    uhhh this mordekaiser build has been standard for a couple years now...

    • @witch_lover
      @witch_lover 2 місяці тому +6

      Has it been standard in kr challenger?

    • @Hiuzk
      @Hiuzk 2 місяці тому

      @@witch_lover It was standard everywhere, it was the old Mordekaiser's build.

    • @somyeol804
      @somyeol804 2 місяці тому

      @@witch_lover yes, its the 1st item that is recommended to you

    • @weylyn_luke8972
      @weylyn_luke8972 2 місяці тому +2

      Since when? You always built rylais demonic. Never seen rocketbelt on mordekaiser unless you were against like 4 ranged champs. So I don't think it's standard.

    • @witch_lover
      @witch_lover Місяць тому

      @@weylyn_luke8972 assume you mean liandrys, demonic hasn’t been in the game for like a year

  • @forzajuve4935
    @forzajuve4935 2 місяці тому +4

    Basically a rylais abuser on a champ so broken you cant escape his ult anymore, which means its a garanteed kill every 60 seconds. Mordekaiser players are bots

    • @matthewchinmingwei6721
      @matthewchinmingwei6721 2 місяці тому +18

      Found the ADC player

    • @weylyn_luke8972
      @weylyn_luke8972 2 місяці тому +1

      Well if you are below gold yeah mordekaiser is kinda broken. Poop shit in any other Elo tho.

    • @Reiss-Historia
      @Reiss-Historia 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah you're definitely a bottom 1% player lmao his items are nowhere near as powerful as the mana mage items and his ult is extremely situational and is the most counterable ult in the game. Just ulting shouldn't get you a kill, his E and Q are easy to dodge, E should only ever hit you if he uses ER

    • @georgeg9779
      @georgeg9779 2 місяці тому

      How does it feel being so dumb?

  • @KingPingx
    @KingPingx 2 місяці тому

    first

  • @tite1455
    @tite1455 2 місяці тому

    Still one of the most stupid champ existing in the game...