That's the thing about comic book characters, they make a ridiculously powerful hero just to make him fight a stronger villain, making their powers kinda useless. What's the point of making your character faster than light when everyone they face can react to them.
Or a character like Batman can be punched 5000 times in the face, throughout his life. But has never been shot in the face. Same applies to Spiderman, Cap, Daredevil, Falcon, who can dodge bullets all day from hitting their face, but manage to get punched in the face at least twice per issue.
That statement alone.. Wins all battles. All the writers want to do is sell books. Being inconsistent writers get people talking and buying books. All about the $$$$
@@KingOfAquilonia this right here is a stupid ass statement I love Stan lee but he was dumb for that it's not who the writers want to win when you write something down you give it new life so it's open to interpretation which means when you create something that's no longer yours it is a creation it has its own meaning which means people can analyze and decide how strong that character is based off how many writers gave him how many feats so whatever to that statement
The only reason People who thinks Hulk and Superman are a match is because their Strenght (both unlimited). But when we consider all others parameters, Superman has a huge edge, except for healing factor. But that doesn't mean Hulk can't beat him in a fight, because weakest characters did it before. But I agree that objectively, this shouldn't be too close.
and has LMAO.... you know what the best joke is in all of comics???? an unhinged Superman will take over the world but an insane Bruce Wayne can CONQUER the known Multiverse LMAO...... and this is Proven FACT
@@YonksCast I'm sure you complain just like anyone else when your comic book hero, Superman in this case, is not top dog in commentaries elsewhere. Personally I think both DC and Marvel fiction is extremely flawed at times because both are inconsistent. Both have had multiple variations of their characters. BTW when Superman was first created his powers were pretty weak, couldn't fly and wasn't even close as strong as he is today. DC and Marvel can change their characters and increase or decrease their abilities at any time.
I think a lot of Marvel fans overlook intent when comparing the two. Superman tries to limit his collateral damage; Hulk doesn't. Superman is only limited by his conscience.
@@DT-hy6px Yeah that's just a complete Cap 😂, Banner couldn't control the Hulk when he initially became the Hulk and Hulk has had all sorts of rampaging moments, not to mention Hulk is not the Kind of person to really hold back and you mean to say not 1 person has died 🤨
It's not close because of writers. It depends who you like more. Then someone will just argue with a different version. Just like who you like. Doesn't matter.
Yeah these writers just make me mad why give character these great feats but then u have Godzilla vs Justice League vs Kong and superman gets one shot like what's the point of them
Can Hulk reach escape velocity under his own power? Possibly. Generally both Hulk and Superman need to breathe at some point. Hulk can't fly, Supes can. Supes is all but superluminal under his own power. Past it if he slingshot around a planet. Freeze breath and heat vision for distance attack or airborne assault. Hulk Thunder clap is going to be painful for a guy with super hearing. Everyone talks about dragging hulk into space. Good luck getting Hulk to go anywhere he does not wish to go. Throw, punch, kick, repeat.. Maybe. Space doesn't pull heat out of a body. The body gets gives up its heat naturally. From warm to cold From warm to near absolute zero so much quicker. Can Supes get Hulk into orbit before Hulk clobbers Supes while twisting and turning and punching? But Supes hits Mach 100 and blasts the heat vision full tilt Hulk will be a green bubbling smear on the next continental mountain range. Eventually reforms and is really mad.
Yes but even the maddest hulks have been beaten. I’m a straight up fight yes Superman wins. But let’s be real …. Superman is the weakest strongest character in the history of super heroes. Bruce would prolly make something like Batman did. And Hulk with Kryptonite in his hands he would destroy Superman. Bruce is a very smart man. People forget that.
See danco it’s kind of confusing when in one versus when you put Superman and silver surfer against each other you say surfer is faster then supes but when you put hulk vs Superman you’ll say Superman is faster then surfer you have to be consistent with your scaling and comparing, it seems a little bias in my opinion and even if Superman has that speed still didn’t put him over the edge against doomsday nor darksied, not comparing darksied to hulk but in terms of infinite strength and durability can you rreally say there that much different
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner basically if you go to danco’s surfer vs Superman video in terms of speed he gave the edge to surfer due to surfer crossing the whole universe in seconds, but in a Superman vs hulk video he changes up and says Superman is faster just to put Superman over the edge which is bias.
Doomsday and darkseid are almost speedsters as well. Especially doomsday, he’s a freaking kryptonian so he has that speed…. Doomsday has literally tagged the flash, the fastest man ever, same with darkseid, so they are not comparable to hulk, hulk is no where that fast. Hulk has fought silver surfer, gladiator etc, but marvel hero’s barely really use their speed in a fight, lol they show it more when traveling that fighting, silver surfer is a pacifist so he wouldn’t even try to speed blitz you from the beginning, most times he doesn’t even want to fight, but DC heros abuse their speed a lot in their fights, they always speed blitz, it’s a regular thing for them.
What happens if they fight in a place without a star around at all? Like in a dimension without stars. Hulk's powers do no require particles or waves of the electromagnetic spectrum emitted by a star to charge them.
Or whaat if they're fighting in a really big piece of sushi, that prevents gamma rays and radiation from the sun from entering - only soy sauce. What then?
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 Hulk makes Superman into meatball Superman power comes from sun Hulk will literally destroy sun, he only cares about winning and killing. Hulk is not a warrior, he's a psycho beast who never back up until he finishes his opponent, no matter how long it takes Also hulk regenerates into seconds. Superman can't fight like beast Hulk.
The thing is, It was DOOMSDAY who killed superman not just anybody. Doomsday vs Hulk would go like Elephant vs wolf. Obviously doomsday will beat the crap out of hulk
It's not just under that sunlight. He literally has like 100% battery efficiency. He can fight for thousands of years without using all the energy he's got. Sun can go out but Superman doesn't lose power unless it's drained from Kryptonite or he expends it with heat vision.
@@jenniferhart6504 that must be something new they. Are up with, in the old days, once he was under the wrong color light he was finished. Isn’t that how Muhammad Ali beat him or something?
The only way I can see it is that the fight would end in a draw. Hulk is the same really as doomsday and no matter superman's power he still can't completely destroy doomsday. Hulk and superman would fight each other until they can't do it anymore like Hulk and Sentry.
Close, but DD is inferior to hulk in basically every way if we looked at what was quantifiable. Hulk has better strength feats, better reaction feats, better durability feats, and even better intelligence feats. And honestly, it couldn't be a draw. Eventually, if not right away, Hulk will end up destroying the sun just from the shockwaves of his punches. So it's just a matter of time until Supes eventually loses power and dies, but Hulk simply can't and therefore won't.
@@colecampbell1906You're forgetting the fact that Superman can actually FLY. Meanwhile all Hulk can do is just jump around which makes him limited. If he gets him up in the air it's a wrap. Not to mention he's way faster
@@real_Hamilton I'm not forgetting anything. It's you who doesn't seem to be aware of a few facts. 1. Hulk has been dealing with flyers his entire life. This isn't some new twist he can't deal with lmao. 2. Hulk can redirect himself in the air with claps. So while he can't *technically* "fly" he pretty much can. So even in the air, that's not a W. 3. Supes is faster, sure. He still isn't fast enough to avoid getting caught since hulk can and has caught quantifiably faster characters. Now, put your bias aside and you explain to me how tf superman deals with a character punching him so fking hard that it destroys the entire galaxy, possibly the universe along with every yellow sun in it. I'll give you a hint, he simply wouldn't.
@@colecampbell1906 it's not about "feats" because, to be honest, that's entirely up to whomever is writing at the time. It's about power sets. Doomsday and Hulk have the almost exact same power sets, if anything Hulk is possibly stronger and Doomsday literally beat Superman to death.
There was one comic panel where one of the many superman-knockoff marvel characters (might have been Hyperion) killed hulk several dozen times in a single day. Hulk's regeneration was so strong he came back to life every few minutes, so he kept getting laser visioned to death.
There was a few comic panels where one of the hulk-knockoff DC characters (doomsday) regularly dicked down superman and even killed him. There was another hulk-knockoff (damage) who put a beating on all of the Justice League as well. And if you're questioning the doomsday thing thinking he's stronger (you'd be sorely wrong about that based on feats) there's even that instance in a DC comic where Supes recalled an encounter across the universe where he bumped into Thor and "a green behemoth who was even stronger than doomsday" so even he admits Hulk is stronger than the guy who was stronger than him.
@@colecampbell1906 Killed him? There was no time Doomsday killed Superman. That was a title to grab reader's attention. And Doomsday is not a hulk knockoff. There were many large strong muscle bulked characters before the hulk, they just never got to pull through in popularity.
Each is only as strong as the plot armor he is given for that story. Honestly until it happened officially, there is no way to know for sure. Because we have seen characters who everyone would agree should win, lose in a fight against another super being, and it was largely because that is what the author of that comic book(or run) wanted to say. So it's pointless to try to say, as both have the ability to power up given the right circumstances, so then one could easily envision a powered up hulk even worse then world breaker hulk, and a superman only at regular strength, not powered up by the sun fully, and the hulk would win in that circumstance. So given their abilities, and their weakness,(superman's weakness to kryptonite and hulks to not being mad enough, etc) It is a completely pointless to argue who would win, when either is capable under the right circumstances. So, again, it all depends on what kind of plot armour each is given for that comic book...
Speed heat vision and freeze breath didn’t even mention that hulk has crazy reflexes and gets crazier and crazier when he gets angry and you can trust if Superman punches hulk he’s getting crazy angry
Yes, but there are many suns in the universe. Plus his “charge” lasts nearly an infinite amount. He doesn’t need to be around a sun all the time to have his powers. He needs to have been around one for long enough such that his cells can stay “charged” for nearly infinity, and that’s precisely what happened in his case. This fight would be fun but ultimately, Clark put him down, then have a heart to heart with Banner afterward about not letting it happen again.
Not surprised of the end verdict coming from the guy who has said that Kratos beats Hulk by comparing them against the two vastly different variants of Zeus (who aren't on the same level).
Superman beats the Hulk and has done it too 3 times in the comics already, of which one was an official crossover done in co-opeation by DC and Marvel, so stfu, Supes solos the bulk every single time
Superman was the 1st comic superhero, almost as fast as the flash, his feats since 1939, have been in comics , TV, movies, net. His character has no bounds, with super speed, strength, invulability, a seasoned smart Superman can beat anyone even with certain weaknesses like krptonite, magic etc.People do not take the entirety of this into account.
Bruh the hulk can keep up with the silver surfer and Thor no one’s getting speed blitzed and you must not read the hulk comics coz if you didn’t know the hulk chunked em with god and we saw if the hulk gives in it’s a lover for the whole multiverse so I don’t care how strong you think poster boy over here is he can’t compete with god himself and that’s what the hulk is go read educate yourself
@@JoeJoe-xb6fo Well all the bs on the net might say that, however if you view the entirety of powers in movies, comics, books since 1939. It shows moving planets. going through the sun, laser beams from him racing the Flash, etc. etc. -Of course we are not talking about Miocic vs Jones, Aspinall vs Jones, Ali vs Fury, but fictional characters, so who cares.
Dr.Manhattan: “I could unmake both of your existences in every conceivable universe with a thought. I already have twice and restored you while we were talking”
Dr. Manhattan tried to make it so Supes never existed. However he couldn’t do it because Superman is multiversal constant. He needs to exist and nothing can stop that from happening.
The thing is you have to start adding "World Breaker" or other versions of the Hulk to even begin to compare to base Superman. When these debates begin everyone automatically assumes I'm a huge DC fan but I've always been more of a Marvel fan. I'm 55yrs old and have been a comic fan most of my life. My favorite character is Wolverine and he's been that way long before his popularity exploded. The thing is it's fun to have these "fights " but Stan Lee created Marvel characters to be more identifiable and down to earth. Whole DC charscyer were always meant to be world beaters and "Gods among men" types. Hulk holds up mountains...Superman benchpresses planets.
A huge factor of Hulk is also Banner, who is perhaps his world's preeminent radiological scientist, they can communicate between each other and Banner would most likely very quickly figure out the workings of Superman's powers and even his weaknesses to both kryptonite or magic (and Hulk/Banner do have their good Defenders buddy Dr. Strange on astral speed dial after all).
Really? What, Banner's just going to LOOK at Superman and suddenly deduce how his powers work, AND that he's vulnerable to some element that Banner's never even heard of? Come on, man. SMH And Superman ISN'T vulnerable to magic. He's got the same kind of relationship to magic that Thor has. He's just not INvulnerable to magic.
Even lex Luthor who is levels above Bruce in intelligence took very long to deduce his weakness and that was only through Kryptonute being present. Bruce has no chance of using his intelligence to defeat Superman. Superman is stronger, faster, smarter and will win everytime they fight.
There's no way they'd figure out how his powers work. That's not something you can just DO, especially just by looking at him or scanning him. And there is ABSOLUTELY NO way they'd know that Superman has ANY issues with magic (he's NOT vulnerable to it, he's just not INvulnerable to it. Same as Thor). And even if they somehow MIRACULOUSLY figured out that Superman was vulnerable to a substance NO ONE in their ENTIRE universe has ever heard of or seen, and they have NO way to get, it STILL wouldn't help them, precisely BECAUSE they have no way to get any. Plus, this is a simple fight. If Hulk gets to phone a friend, so does Superman. Superman uses his microscopic and multi-spectrum vision powers, figures or Hulk is powered by gamma, and either goes to his Fortress of Solitude at hyper-light speed or calls Batman on speed dial, and gets a machine to siphon off Hulk's gamma and cure him permanently. Then, once he turns back into Banner, he throws Banner in jail. Or, even better, Superman just grabs the phantom zone projector and pops Hulk into the zone. Forever. End of story.
Superman was invulnerable to magic (at least mostly) in the 1940's, got vulnerable to it during the fifties, was even more vulnerable to it than Aquaman in a JLA story that came out in the late 60's/early seventies but by the 1980's (before Byrne) was only inconvienced by it. Byrne made him overly vulnerable to Mixie (not going to spell that name!) but Superman is much more powerful now than during the John Byrne years so he really shouldn't be such a wuss dealing with it. And Mixie and Dr. Strange have never been invulnerable themselves!@@stormhawk31
I’ve always wanted to know who has the best healing factor. Deadpool, hulk, wolverine, or Superman. I’ve never seen Superman lose a limb and grow it back
Hulk does no doubt, and supermans thing is hes so dense that its borderline impossible to rip or cut off a limb only someone like doomsday gave him a compound fracture.
I stopped listening at 4min. Feats like, “Lifting a book with infinite pages” and “the Specter who weighed as much as eternity” are the reasons I dislike comics sometimes 😵💫
since hulk can't fly, simply taking the fight to space would make it superman's win you can't change your direction if you have nothing to hold on to, so he'll just float on and on while superman can just continue blasting him from range since it's cowardly it's not something superman would do, but it is definitely effective
Correct answer. This has always been my thought. Superman is extremely fast, strong and can fly. This is the obviously what he would do once he figures out how tough hulk is. He could even just fly him somewhere into space away and away from earth and be done with him.
Depends on how long it goes on. On any day? Superman. If it goes on long enough? Hulk. When he says he’s the strongest, it isn’t ego or opinion, it’s a law of nature
@@richardrichmond8006 hulk could breathe in space too, also hulk could just use thunderclap to destroy the sun. and like I said before "it's not like superman could keep hulk from doing anything midflight"
I can't agree. Mainly because the more you hurt The Hulk, the more angry he gets. The more angry he gets, the more powerful he gets. The powerful get gets, the more unstoppable he becomes. The more unstoppable he becomes, the less likely he could be defeated. I will say this, IF The Hulk could be defeated, Superman stands the best chance.
Here's something to think about in regards to the claim that Superman has infinite strength/power... When exposed to red kryptonite, Superman exceeded the amount of sunlight that his body can handle... wouldn't that mean that Superman actually does have a limit to his power!?!?!?! Think about it. Hulk on the other hand does have infinite strength depending on his rage. Superman fighting him like he would Doomsday would push Hulk to unbearably ridiculous levels of power. So much so that Hulk would go world breaker and beyond which would mean that his body will be emitting gamma radiation which is lethal to Superman. Don't believe me then research Superman's weakness to nuclear power. Superman literally withers to a corpse like state when hit with one nuclear blast. Now imagine Hulk blasting him with a barrage of devastating punches fueled by dangerous levels of gamma radiation... SUPERMAN WOULD BE A PUDDLE OF BLOOD!
The same can be said about Hulk then he fought Sentry he got tired and reverted back to Banner atleast for a while suggesting hes not unlimited to! Superman ones tanked the fucking big bang thats like 1000000000000000000000000 nukes or more!
@skaraturbo obviously you didn't read the comic correctly. Let me guess, Zues also over taxed his regeneration ability or depowered him in the story where he confronted the gods!? I'd love to see your response before I say anything further
your adding a lot of thing to the hulk that have been changing thru the years in the comics is like if someone starts bringing stuff from superman prime... the point here is the clasic versions of both nad as a matter of fact they have fought in 2 crossovers between dc and marvels at leas 2 that I remember and in both superman won ...that shuld put an end to the discussion plus even Stan lee said that no hero or villan could beat Superman.
This video really just highlights the massive inconsistencies characters like these have in terms of their power levels. You show all the crazy things that Superman is capable off, yet they'll be a time where he'll struggle to take on a mere human like Batman or Lex. At the end day it just comes down to who the writters want to win.
I was gonna write down every problem I had with this video in a list. But when DanCo scaled Hulk to High Outerversal but Superman to Multiversal, just to give say they are *SOMEHOW EQUAL.....* I don't see any point in spending an hour to list the problems. That speaks for itself.
He said Hulk is high outer and said feats for superman that technically get him to high outer without actually saying it. But superman with just affecting beings beyond the SoG or the 5th dimension is high outer… layers into it in fact. Simple as that.
@@narrowmax7382 By any chance you can tell me how the Sphere of Gods gets to a High Outer cosmology. I have been researching that for a long time but I just cannot figure out where it comes from.
“If hulk has a complete unfair adavantage by me giving him something he has no knowledge about and doesn’t have at his disposal then it’s over for superman”
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 After I read the above comment I said to my self that all the Superman fanboys will come up with a lame excuse. Glad to see you did not disappoint.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 It's Bruce Banner. If it exists, he'll find it. This IS a crossover, after all and to say that he wouldn't know about it is stupid. If it exists in this multidimensional crossover, Hank Pym would discover it, and Reed Richards would find a way to implement it, and Hulk would then be able to utilize it. This is why Marvel is the better Comic Book Company. Superman IS kinda lame, IMO.
Lol Silver surfer slower than superman he should re-watch his own videos like Silver surfer vs Superman. If Hulk hits the surfer he'll hit Superman easily. Superman cant die ...hmmm tell that to Doomsday
Everyone will have their opinion, but the context to which you used was very Superman bias. Yes Superman has plenty of strength feats that involves his flight that would make him appear stronger, but not one thing you said about Superman strength was greater than a thunderclap that destroyed an infinite universe larger than the Marvel multiverse, a punch to a rock that illuminated that same universe, a thunderclap that temporarily put down the rage and wrath of Marvel’s omnipotent god. It was most obvious in your downplay of Hulk’s battle against King Thor. This was All Father Thor with added power from the Phoenix force and the Titan Gaea and was in world breaker mode and had the power to rip the world tree from its roots and overcome the power and will of all eternity and Hulk in base form was holding his own. Even your information on Superman doesn’t carry weight. Superman was amped by suns that were specifically placed by Batman in a specific order to amp Superman more than he has ever been amped before, he was moving faster than he had ever moved before, and hit the world forger with the strongest punch Superman has ever thrown and none of that is greater than the feats I described for Hulk. Even a weakened Hulk facing the amped Thor I described above destroyed the planet they were on and would have killed anyone who couldn’t survive planetary destruction, but when Superman delivered the most powerful punch he ever has ever thrown Batman was standing right in front of him and wasn’t in any danger. Just saying
How is defeating a multiversal being with one punch not enough to defeat the Hulk who has been defeated by the Sentry(100 million exploding suns power) but was poor mentally going to defeat Superman who’s cosmology is way bigger than Marvel’s universal cosmology.
@@bigbonedones7162 Sentry has never beaten Hulk in a fight. Sentry has a calming aura that normally calms Hulk and they don’t fight. World War Hulk is the only time Hulk and Sentry have ever fought and Hulk won that fight. So what are you talking about? The reason Superman knocking out World Forger is cap is because he had to first be saved from dying by Batman. Then Batman had to line up suns in a specific sequence to power him up further than he has ever been powered up just to knock out a dude who uses machines to forge worlds whereas Hulk has defeated a three times powerful reality warper who can manipulate the multiverse with his thoughts with a single punch while being held down on the ground. No flying, no speed boost, no power amps just Hulk
Superman lifted half of The Book of Infinite Pages, do you know what half of infinity is? Still infinity...Spectre weighs an infinite amount, Superman lifted him...multiple occasions Superman has shattered reality with his punches, even rewrote DC Continuity with his punches. Superman and Hecate Wonder Woman fought demons for over 10k years, nonstop! And all of these feats were done by versions weaker than the current iteration of Superman, determined to be capable of every feat Superman has ever accomplished in any iteration of him. So no, Hulk does not even come close to Infinite Frontier Superman or his feats, and that includes Fractured Son Hulk.
@@swiftstreak98 just because he has super hearing doesn't make him go Def from that clap. That's still a physical attack into superman's ears which are still invulnerable
This analysis just reinforces why I don’t like Superman as a concept. He’s so OP in every way it makes him uninteresting to me. Yes, Hulk is OP, too, but he’s still operating within a set of constraints. Superman is quite literally a multi-purpose plot device to tell any story one wants to tell.
Hulk is my favorite MCU. Character. That being said, yeah...I have to agree. Superman would simply fly hulk into a black hole and dump him there. Game. Set. Match. (..at least for a while)
The MCU dealt Ruffalo’s Hulk a bad hand with the script making him feel like a weak side character completely missing the extreme power that is within and maybe it’s the “version” for the universe but in canon to the comics he could’ve been way more effective than what we fans were given.
if they tell it fairly Superman's greatest weakness other than the green stuff is magic and Thors is pure GOD tire magic. So this is not content Rune King Thor is like 10 Shamazam and Superman struggles with a 15-year shazam due to MAGIC.
@@dreadheadjae06 Judging by his performance against doomsday, konvikt, damage and other slow hulk-like characters from DC I think it's correct to say he can! Maybe the superman you created with your mind stomps the weak hulk you imagined considering in your fantasy world he's an untouchable streak of blur which never has really been the reason the real DC superman wins his fight and the real MARVEL hulk loses a fight in the pages of the comics
@@nelsonisc9670 lol dude i’m not a comic book nerd who sits and reads comics, i mean they make so many different forms and add more and more nonsense to the point where it’s pushing it 😂
If superman brings hulk in space he suffocates the end, not to mention that gamma rays which powers the hulk is also one of the types of radiation that is given off by the sun. So superman could literally absorb the hulks power while fighting him. It isn't close at all. Hulk is awesome and as strong but superman has too many other advantages that hulk cannot compete with. Hulk wouldn't even be able to touch superman unless superman wanted him too!
Hulks best feats: Annihilated an entire planet, Overpowered the One Below All, Dented Ultron's adamantium armor, Lifted a 150 billion ton mountain, Survived Vector's reality-repelling blasts, Withstood the weight of a star, Endured a blast Galactus, Defeated Abomination, Hercules, Maestro, Sentry
Superman best feats: Saved Felicity Rose, Phaelosians, Earth, the Omniverse, Shook the Phantom Zone with a punch, Obliterated the World Forger's multiverse, Survived multiple Source Wall explosions, Restored all timelines while fighting Jaxon, Destroyed Darkseid's true form with a sub-quantum shout, Defeated Lex Luthor, General Zod, Doomsday, Dominus, Quantum Mechanics, World Forger, Ultraman
Yep they said it but also superman powers had to reduced so many times because it became to boring write but the inportant thing is that even though hulk is now stronger than superman...he will still always win...he is Hope...
@@fernandoalfonica7476 Hulk's powers got nerfed a lot of times as well. It was all these weird transformations with different "colors". They made him gray which was smarter but weaker and then they merged Bruce Banner with the Hulk (like in the Avengers) but he lost his ability to rage etc etc. Same as Superman, in order not to make him boring, they kept changing him...
Nah bruh. How do you NOT mention Kryptonyte as Superman's weakness? All Hulk has to do is have Kryptoniye in his system and the fight is over. Simply ingesting it or whatever, it's not a fight. He'll I can kick Superman's a$$ if I have Kryptonite!!
Superman was once exposed to every type of Kryptonite from the multiverse at once while getting hit by energy thay destroys the muktiverse for days. It was 4 years ago and he survived with flying colors
Superman’s writers just wanted the most OP spandex guy there is, and they kept adding to the mythos through the years. It’s pretty stupid honestly. If it was truely the case then all of Krypton would have been total chads. Their planet wouldn’t have blown up because they are the OP race. Hulk is no better in nonsense. His character keeps getting goofier as time goes on because the fans eat that mess up. It’s hard to keep people’s attention and thusly why all the epic levels of goofy come out. This is why the Watchmen did so well. It’s relatable and even feasible.
Superman does have regeneration abilities from his healing 🤦♂️ he is beyond his physical form every time people think he die because he is more than reality itself
Everyone always forgets about Superman's psychic powers. Dude can literally see your soul. Superman will hold back until Hulk poses too great a danger to… well… everything… When Hulk becomes too great a threat, Superman will reach into Hulk's mind, and contact Banner. Also, I can't help but notice the people saying that this fight is somehow close. Hulk has been subdued by mere humans with good tech. Unless he's secretly a wizard, or gamma radiation is the real reason kryptonite harms Superman, it really is not even close. If Marvel wants to give Superman a challenge, it will have to be someone like Blue Marvel, Gladiator, or Sentry.
1 hulk version can defeat all version of superman,if by base hulk lost because superman just faster but if we take cas(the strongest canon superman vs toba) well you know who wins
In the secret wars series the beyonder said his strength has no limit hulk is an elemental force super man has speed but hulk has no limit on strength.
nope. kal-el lugs planets around. over the last 20 years, he's inching back towards silver age, when he used to drag galaxies out of orbit. look at my handle. i'm not anti-Marvel; supes is WAY more powerful. the version that lost to doomsday? yeah this one would chuck him into a black hole and have a coffee.
Hulks 'weakness' is his power is more or less tied to his rage. He gets stronger and tougher the angrier he gets. If you take Hulk out faster than he can get angry...like Thanos did, and Superman could, moving faster than Hulk can think, Hulk is easily beatable.
@@AbandonedPrecursor1001 but he didn’t use the power stone tho to fight hulk thanos used his own strength and skill alone to beat hulk i mean if you watch the fight over you can see that he never activated the stone and remember thanos is a much more skilled fighter than hulk
The problem with this conclusion is that it discounts the reality that fighting against the Hulk is fighting against an enemy that literally gets stronger and more fierce and dangerous every time you attack. Hulk's anger is effectively an internal infinite strength battery that gets powered on and powered up every hit he takes. Every time Superman hits him, Hulk gets stronger. Since Hulk is immortal and is fueled by his rage, similar to Juggernaut, he will never stop attacking until his opponent is done. Hulk is not an enemy, he is damn near a force of nature on a cosmic scale. Who would win is ultimately up to the writer, but objectively, it would be very very close.
The Hulk is confirmed to be practically immortal and can come back from the dead. Not to mention during Donny Cates' run the Hulk assumed a horrifyingly powerful form known as Titan who is essentially the Hulk's Hulk. Titan makes Doomsday look like a pile of rocks rolling down in graceland and would utterly annihilate Superman. The problem is that Hulk and Superman's powers fluctuate from time to time but that's due to who's writing them. But I can safely say that Hulk would overwhelm Superman.
@PoreeGamingandVlogssure but then you have to give the hulk the same treatment so I’d say idk we’ll be using the one below all hulk and if you didn’t know the one below all is the closest thing to god in the marvel universe not a falls god like sup hes actually GOD so regardless sup losses😂🤷🏽♂️
Superman did too, but without more data both are meaningless, BH's are a matter of (no pun intended) density, not total mass- the moon would make a BH about the size of a grain of sand.
While many may think that Superman's strength is unlimited, it is not. However, The Hulk's strength has been documented to be only limited by his anger level. The more angry he becomes the stronger he becomes and that is unlimited. The Hulk would smash the s*** out of Superman any day of the week.
@kawakiuzumaki5934 especially with a yellow sun nearby. Dude could just fly star to star grabbing more power as he drags Hulks dead ass around the galaxy 🤣🤣
Superman's strength is limited by the sun (which DOES have a cap on the power that it emits). Hulk's strength is truly UNlimited (with literally NO cap on it). So, unless they're fighting in a solar system that consists of infinite binary suns, then Hulk's gonna spank that ass EVERY time!... And even THEN, really. Superman's gonna have to keep leaving the fight to get close enough to the sun to re-up on his power levels. Which Hulk will never have to do. Not to mention that if Hulk holds him back from getting close enough to the sun to recharge, then he's REALLY gonna be done for. Sorry man, but I've been a comic fan of BOTH these guys for right at 40 years,, and Hulk definitely wins this one. Even though I like Superman just as much, if not even BETTER in ways, I can't take the victory away from the true champion of raw "power"!
That doesn't make much sense since they both get their powers from radiation. The sun emits electromagnetic radiation which includes among other things, gamma radiation. The sun emits 380 septillion watts per second, all of that energy doesn't come to earth but if supes fly to the sun before his fight he'd be absorbing a lot of that. There is no way that hulk has more energy in his cells than our sun emits. How could such a small being produce more energy in his cells than a star that is literally a continuous nuclear explosion 109 times the diameter of earth. Even for a comic book that's just ridiculous.
@@rtdsbg1 Remember that time that Superman busted up half of Asgard, smashed ODIN HIMSELF into the ground (almost killing him), and made a young Thor look like he might as well be wearing baby diapers??... Oh, wait,, that was HULK! It's always been a thing that Hulk's power is limited only by his level of rage (at any given time), which has the potential to be LIMITLESS. Without our yellow sun, which DOES have a limited reservoir of power/energy for Superman to draw from, "Superman" is just, well,, "Man"... Some of the ONLY weaknesses of the Hulk, are magic, psychokinesis, telekinesis, telepathy, etc...
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 You didn't take into account anything I typed. Comic books are all over the place. Someone can always pull some random comic out of their butt to explain why someone would win. It's all up to the writers. Supes wins and everyone knows it.
As an old-timer who started buying comics in the 70's and 80's, this was why I was not alone in buying Marvel over DC. The characters have limits. Meanwhile, DC is full of Superman clones and almost every character who wasn't, they've bumped up in power to Superman levels. The power level increases for the Hulk in recent years is probably part of the reason why the Spiderman movies are doing so well. The character has been popular for decades, but I think people are tired of seeing overpowered heroes. Time to scale things back.
_"They made Superman wayyyy too powerful."_ They did, but the weakness to kryptonite was there to balance that out. Nowadays Wonder Woman seems nearly as powerful as superman, if not more with the fighting ability, but with no weaknesses.
@@kingsman8475 Yeah I don't think they are on the same level. But it seems that have made her closer to him in recent times and I've see a lot of people trying to make the case that she would beat him. In the past she has been nowhere near him physically.
I think it would be a back and forth between them. Hulk is still human and has Bruce Banner, so he has intelligence backing him up. Where as Supes has the good nature that he got from his parents. Truly epic regardless.
Hulk is a better character just more relatable. Superman is not relatable and thats what makes him boring. The whole joke of One Punch Man is characters like Superman. Absurd stupid characters that are OP and have no limits.
@@svensvensson2724 please tell me how you relate to Superman. I’ll wait. You must have a very high opinion of yourself. If you relate to Superman or like him that’s fine I just personally find characters that have little to no flaws whose main premise is that they are unbeatable to be boring and lazy. We are all human so the most relatable characters are ones that have some deep or troubling humanistic quality. Some sort of moral or ethical battle. Honestly I’m not big fan of all the new characters that can warp or change reality. So basically they have not limitations and can do anything. Boring.
@@jaymanjay3.0Normal people relate to Superman as a good person that does not abuse his power. Abnormal people can not relate to Superman because he does not just take whatever he wants like they would. Which one are you?
@@svensvensson2724 first all there are sagas where Superman isn’t a good person at all and becomes a dictator. Second, you can be a good person and still have flaws. It’s not a question of you’re either evil or good. There is nuance in between and that’s what makes it interesting. Superman does not struggle to do good nor is he even human he is from another planet. You know who is relatable but still absurdly powerful? Blue Marvel!!! Because he has every right and reason to hate growing up in world or racism where the people he saves hate. Yet. He continues to do the right thing. It is easier to do the right thing when you beloved it is much harder to do the right thing even when hated. That is an interesting dynamic and better written story than Superman.
Hoolee crap. I can't help but agree. You had me at "speed". Now, I'm not a fan of "freeze breath". I think heat vision is possible, and awesome! So I'll go there. For me, with Kal, it's always been his speed!:)
The idea for freezing breath is based on the same principles as the wind around buildings getting colder the faster it blows in tight areas (no doubt how DC came up with the idea). Now if Superman is blowing out with his lips nearly closed (no jokes here please!) and speeds said air up it is freezing! If he is blowing the air out with his mouth open as forcibly as he can it is like a concentrated wind tunnel more like a hurricane than a freeze breath. Okay?
I wish he would read more of the current comics. The hulk and current comics has been going up against the door that has the door force which makes them stronger than Odin was and he's been going up against that kind of level of power and has been winning against that level of power
You wasting your time because these guys are superstans. Knocking out a guy with your most powerful punch because he is powerful does mean that you are powerful, but doesn’t Batman being in whispering distance of him when he is struck says that it is less powerful than a punch that destroyed the planet the fighters were standing on. If Batman was present when Hulk and Thor’s punches collided he would have died with the planet, but when Superman knocked World Forger out Batman was there to welcome him back.
@@jonathanthompson7222 do you have any idea how the DC cosmology works? TF darkseid literally lives outside of reality. The DC and marvel cosmology Don't work the same way. There's a reason why even street level DC characters beat top tier characters from other verses in death battle.
Problem is, Superman will always hold back. Hulk has one ability that Superman lacks, and it's a big one. The longer he fights, the more he gets hit, the angrier he becomes.... which causes him to literally get stronger the more rage he feels. Which then increases his stamina, his strength, and how much more harder he hits as a fight progresses. This is why literally beings that start out just as strong as the Hulk, can never win if a fight goes longer than a literal minute. Ben Grimm (The Thing), Red Hulk, literally anyone who is as strong as the Hulk at the very start of a fight, while get weaker the longer a fight lasts. Meanwhile, the Hulk will just get angrier and stronger the longer it continues. Superman, no different. Plus, we all know he's going to hold back.
Interestingly enough Thor had two wins in a fight wth Thanos and one of those times Thanos even had Mangog helping! Maybe we should be talking Thor Vs. Superman instead!
Also if Superman got a shot at throwing Hulk into the sun, there wouldnt be a comeback for the green giant. I know they made in the animated series Hulk "clap" back to earth, but once in space, he would be donzo.
Calling doomsday "DCs Hulk" is such an embarrassment for doomsday itself. Doomsday will literally put his feet on hulks face and crush it like its a concrete
I already knew the outcome was going to be B.S. hulk loses? You deliberately left out ton of hulks victories and Supermans failures for example hulk would had taken down doomsday with a lot less effort and walked away with swag plus speed heat vision nor is breath would mean anything against hulk remember anger does just make hulk stronger it also gives him more endurance and one last example super hearing against thunder clap this half assed research would cut it.
If anyone hands the Hulk kriptonite...the Hulk can win. Superman would never use full strength because there are too many inocent people. Professor Hulk can use the infinity stones, Anytime Superman is at a weakened stay. The hulk has a chance.,eventually Superman has to recharge with the Sun. The Hulk doesn't have to recharge. The Hulk gets stronger and stronger the more angry he gets. The Hulk can obsorb radiation and radiate it out. If the Hulk obsorbs kriptonite...whe knows what it could do to him and Superman.
Superman is his own worst enemy here, like you said he is going to hold back and effectively anger Hulk making him stronger, if Superman doesn't hit that next level quick enough then Hulk is going to keep out pacing him until at the very least a punch from Hulk would destroy the planet which I assume Supes would see and throw in the towel.
People do forget it is only proximity to the sol yellow sun that gives kal el his power, if Hulk took him out of the solar system to a red sun system it would be a different story. This is the problem with all of these comic hero fights, there are so many versions where each is worse than the other. How was a mere mortal, lex luther supermans nemesis for so long if superman is that powerful, and how does Batman, a mere human have a superman defeating plan, in case superman turns rogue. Same as Ironmans HulkBuster armour, meant to be good enough to stop hulk.
right because superman speed definitely helped him againts the parasite, doomsday, darksied, poison iv, deathstroke, batman, the yellow lantern, lex luthor robots, lobo, and many other who literately tags superman without having super speed your right superman speed certainly is key againts the hulk
I just love it when a being that can see, think, and react in nanoseconds can't dodge a punch.
😂 underrated comment
Probably just means the punch is just as fast or faster, basic scaling
Sentry,Silver Surfer, and many speedsters have all lost to Hulk…so come up with something better
That's the thing about comic book characters, they make a ridiculously powerful hero just to make him fight a stronger villain, making their powers kinda useless. What's the point of making your character faster than light when everyone they face can react to them.
Or a character like Batman can be punched 5000 times in the face, throughout his life. But has never been shot in the face.
Same applies to Spiderman, Cap, Daredevil, Falcon, who can dodge bullets all day from hitting their face, but manage to get punched in the face at least twice per issue.
the answer is ... as Stan Lee has said in interviews, whoever the writer wants to win
That statement alone.. Wins all battles. All the writers want to do is sell books. Being inconsistent writers get people talking and buying books. All about the $$$$
Yes but Stan Lee would fire the writer who has Hawk Eye beating Hulk in a arm wrestling competition.
@@someguy4544Not if it is Hulk while still in his human form as Bruce Banner…
Squirrel Girl can defeat Thanos, who can destroy everyone...
@@KingOfAquilonia this right here is a stupid ass statement I love Stan lee but he was dumb for that it's not who the writers want to win when you write something down you give it new life so it's open to interpretation which means when you create something that's no longer yours it is a creation it has its own meaning which means people can analyze and decide how strong that character is based off how many writers gave him how many feats so whatever to that statement
The only reason People who thinks Hulk and Superman are a match is because their Strenght (both unlimited).
But when we consider all others parameters, Superman has a huge edge, except for healing factor.
But that doesn't mean Hulk can't beat him in a fight, because weakest characters did it before.
But I agree that objectively, this shouldn't be too close.
not really Superman just knows how to channel his nature unlike hulk
What about kryptonite? Hulk is immortal and and a stone turns superman into a mere man.
@@WillLiam32 With kryptonite is the only way Hulk wins
One below all hulk
The idea that Hulk needs nothing to be Super but Superman needs a Yellow sun, says, Hulk wins, Period.
As a mere mortal man I could quite easily tear both Supes and Hulk to pieces.
Lol. I see what you did there 😂
Not gonna happen, but okay.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 I think he's saying because they're comics , chief. He can tear the comics to pieces.
and has LMAO.... you know what the best joke is in all of comics???? an unhinged Superman will take over the world but an insane Bruce Wayne can CONQUER the known Multiverse LMAO...... and this is Proven FACT
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 it HAS happened dmmy...
Stan Lee even said there is no hero or villain that can go toe to toe with Superman.
Stan Lee bless him is not an authority on DC characters though.
@@Amayi1he's worked for dc.. and Superman
The marvel fanboys can’t stand that Supes reigns supreme.
That's not true, he didn't say that
@@YonksCast I'm sure you complain just like anyone else when your comic book hero, Superman in this case, is not top dog in commentaries elsewhere.
Personally I think both DC and Marvel fiction is extremely flawed at times because both are inconsistent. Both have had multiple variations of their characters. BTW when Superman was first created his powers were pretty weak, couldn't fly and wasn't even close as strong as he is today.
DC and Marvel can change their characters and increase or decrease their abilities at any time.
I think a lot of Marvel fans overlook intent when comparing the two. Superman tries to limit his collateral damage; Hulk doesn't. Superman is only limited by his conscience.
Hulk comics noted that throughout his rampages no one died due to Banner using math. Just saying
If the hulk didnt limit himself, earth would have been broken into asteroids long ago
Even as the world Breaker hulk. Banner mentions that the hulk was still holding back.
Just goes to show that he does exercise some degree of restraint
@@DT-hy6px Yeah that's just a complete Cap 😂, Banner couldn't control the Hulk when he initially became the Hulk and Hulk has had all sorts of rampaging moments, not to mention Hulk is not the Kind of person to really hold back and you mean to say not 1 person has died 🤨
@@DezzyBoy963 Banner holds back hulk everytime he becomes angry.... As after somebeatting when hulk becomes angry he gets converted into banner
It's not close because of writers. It depends who you like more. Then someone will just argue with a different version. Just like who you like. Doesn't matter.
Exactly
Yeah these writers just make me mad why give character these great feats but then u have Godzilla vs Justice League vs Kong and superman gets one shot like what's the point of them
@@Kingdom2098Ytthat's a Cross over story we don't take them seriously
Can Hulk reach escape velocity under his own power? Possibly. Generally both Hulk and Superman need to breathe at some point.
Hulk can't fly, Supes can. Supes is all but superluminal under his own power. Past it if he slingshot around a planet. Freeze breath and heat vision for distance attack or airborne assault.
Hulk Thunder clap is going to be painful for a guy with super hearing. Everyone talks about dragging hulk into space.
Good luck getting Hulk to go anywhere he does not wish to go. Throw, punch, kick, repeat.. Maybe.
Space doesn't pull heat out of a body. The body gets gives up its heat naturally.
From warm to cold
From warm to near absolute zero so much quicker. Can Supes get Hulk into orbit before Hulk clobbers Supes while twisting and turning and punching?
But Supes hits Mach 100 and blasts the heat vision full tilt
Hulk will be a green bubbling smear on the next continental mountain range.
Eventually reforms and is really mad.
Superman just solos😂
Hulk has atomic adrenalin , the mader he gets the
Stronger the Hulk gets .
It doesnt make him absolutely unkillable. Theres only so much damage hulk can take. Think about Thanos
@@SKIDIKI_POP_POPhulk cannot die … lol no matter what you do.
@@slimmkazzh5957 Bruce Banner can die tho 😬
Because hulk is immortal in
Yes but even the maddest hulks have been beaten. I’m a straight up fight yes Superman wins. But let’s be real …. Superman is the weakest strongest character in the history of super heroes. Bruce would prolly make something like Batman did. And Hulk with Kryptonite in his hands he would destroy Superman. Bruce is a very smart man. People forget that.
Superman has a weakness,kryptonite and the hulk has no weakness
It is just silly when the writers can move the goalposts at will.
exactly listen to stan lee 💪
See danco it’s kind of confusing when in one versus when you put Superman and silver surfer against each other you say surfer is faster then supes but when you put hulk vs Superman you’ll say Superman is faster then surfer you have to be consistent with your scaling and comparing, it seems a little bias in my opinion and even if Superman has that speed still didn’t put him over the edge against doomsday nor darksied, not comparing darksied to hulk but in terms of infinite strength and durability can you rreally say there that much different
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubnersorry read it again
@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner basically if you go to danco’s surfer vs Superman video in terms of speed he gave the edge to surfer due to surfer crossing the whole universe in seconds, but in a Superman vs hulk video he changes up and says Superman is faster just to put Superman over the edge which is bias.
Doomsday and darkseid are almost speedsters as well. Especially doomsday, he’s a freaking kryptonian so he has that speed…. Doomsday has literally tagged the flash, the fastest man ever, same with darkseid, so they are not comparable to hulk, hulk is no where that fast. Hulk has fought silver surfer, gladiator etc, but marvel hero’s barely really use their speed in a fight, lol they show it more when traveling that fighting, silver surfer is a pacifist so he wouldn’t even try to speed blitz you from the beginning, most times he doesn’t even want to fight, but DC heros abuse their speed a lot in their fights, they always speed blitz, it’s a regular thing for them.
@@AOTmultiverse Hyperion speed blitz hulk and sentry speed blitzed hulk and lost so you don’t have to be a speedster to tag any fast hero debunked
In that battle danco with Superman vs silver surfer and jiren and he chose jiren for win
What happens if they fight in a place without a star around at all? Like in a dimension without stars. Hulk's powers do no require particles or waves of the electromagnetic spectrum emitted by a star to charge them.
Or whaat if they're fighting in a really big piece of sushi, that prevents gamma rays and radiation from the sun from entering - only soy sauce. What then?
@@merlinambrosius2554💀💀💀
That’s a very specific set of circumstances you’ve got there.
@@merlinambrosius2554 i think i will eat it with some soy sauce lol
Hulk and Superman are incredibly resilient and nearly impossible to defeat.
Superman just needs to punch or fly Hulk into space. Seeing how fast superman is it would be a short fight.
@@DovahVokunaall hulk fans are blind to comments like these especially since they know it’s an move superman will use against opponents in character.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 i agree
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 Hulk makes Superman into meatball
Superman power comes from sun
Hulk will literally destroy sun, he only cares about winning and killing.
Hulk is not a warrior, he's a psycho beast who never back up until he finishes his opponent, no matter how long it takes
Also hulk regenerates into seconds.
Superman can't fight like beast Hulk.
@@dragoman3952he can throw him into a black hole and that’s over since he can’t fly :)
If doomsday killed Superman, how can’t the hulk? Doomsday was fast enough to hit him for all the people saying the speed advantage
The thing is, It was DOOMSDAY who killed superman not just anybody. Doomsday vs Hulk would go like Elephant vs wolf. Obviously doomsday will beat the crap out of hulk
@@CarbonizedSoda I think he had hulk stronger in his other comparison and I agree
@@Getawayk Its base hulk vs base superman. Base superman literally scales above anime
How the hell is Superman so powerful if he’s only powerful under a certain type of sunlight?
It's not just under that sunlight. He literally has like 100% battery efficiency. He can fight for thousands of years without using all the energy he's got.
Sun can go out but Superman doesn't lose power unless it's drained from Kryptonite or he expends it with heat vision.
@@jenniferhart6504 that must be something new they. Are up with, in the old days, once he was under the wrong color light he was finished. Isn’t that how Muhammad Ali beat him or something?
@@LKaramazovit still works like that bro you not the one who’s wrong here😂😂
The only way I can see it is that the fight would end in a draw. Hulk is the same really as doomsday and no matter superman's power he still can't completely destroy doomsday. Hulk and superman would fight each other until they can't do it anymore like Hulk and Sentry.
Close, but DD is inferior to hulk in basically every way if we looked at what was quantifiable.
Hulk has better strength feats, better reaction feats, better durability feats, and even better intelligence feats.
And honestly, it couldn't be a draw. Eventually, if not right away, Hulk will end up destroying the sun just from the shockwaves of his punches. So it's just a matter of time until Supes eventually loses power and dies, but Hulk simply can't and therefore won't.
@@colecampbell1906You're forgetting the fact that Superman can actually FLY. Meanwhile all Hulk can do is just jump around which makes him limited. If he gets him up in the air it's a wrap. Not to mention he's way faster
@@real_Hamilton I'm not forgetting anything. It's you who doesn't seem to be aware of a few facts.
1. Hulk has been dealing with flyers his entire life. This isn't some new twist he can't deal with lmao.
2. Hulk can redirect himself in the air with claps. So while he can't *technically* "fly" he pretty much can.
So even in the air, that's not a W.
3. Supes is faster, sure. He still isn't fast enough to avoid getting caught since hulk can and has caught quantifiably faster characters.
Now, put your bias aside and you explain to me how tf superman deals with a character punching him so fking hard that it destroys the entire galaxy, possibly the universe along with every yellow sun in it. I'll give you a hint, he simply wouldn't.
@@colecampbell1906 it's not about "feats" because, to be honest, that's entirely up to whomever is writing at the time.
It's about power sets. Doomsday and Hulk have the almost exact same power sets, if anything Hulk is possibly stronger and Doomsday literally beat Superman to death.
@@colecampbell1906 Honestly. Why don't superman fly back in time and save banner from becoming the hulk. end of story.
There was one comic panel where one of the many superman-knockoff marvel characters (might have been Hyperion) killed hulk several dozen times in a single day. Hulk's regeneration was so strong he came back to life every few minutes, so he kept getting laser visioned to death.
There was a few comic panels where one of the hulk-knockoff DC characters (doomsday) regularly dicked down superman and even killed him. There was another hulk-knockoff (damage) who put a beating on all of the Justice League as well. And if you're questioning the doomsday thing thinking he's stronger (you'd be sorely wrong about that based on feats) there's even that instance in a DC comic where Supes recalled an encounter across the universe where he bumped into Thor and "a green behemoth who was even stronger than doomsday" so even he admits Hulk is stronger than the guy who was stronger than him.
@@colecampbell1906 Killed him? There was no time Doomsday killed Superman. That was a title to grab reader's attention. And Doomsday is not a hulk knockoff. There were many large strong muscle bulked characters before the hulk, they just never got to pull through in popularity.
@@colecampbell1906OP comment really triggered you didn't it?😂
Each is only as strong as the plot armor he is given for that story. Honestly until it happened officially, there is no way to know for sure. Because we have seen characters who everyone would agree should win, lose in a fight against another super being, and it was largely because that is what the author of that comic book(or run) wanted to say. So it's pointless to try to say, as both have the ability to power up given the right circumstances, so then one could easily envision a powered up hulk even worse then world breaker hulk, and a superman only at regular strength, not powered up by the sun fully, and the hulk would win in that circumstance. So given their abilities, and their weakness,(superman's weakness to kryptonite and hulks to not being mad enough, etc) It is a completely pointless to argue who would win, when either is capable under the right circumstances. So, again, it all depends on what kind of plot armour each is given for that comic book...
Ummm dude read some comics superman has died @dantesparda4493
Speed heat vision and freeze breath didn’t even mention that hulk has crazy reflexes and gets crazier and crazier when he gets angry and you can trust if Superman punches hulk he’s getting crazy angry
Hulk also destroyed the dark dimension with a thunder clap
Bad writing 😅
So has superman
Yah...he could end up wiping a multiverse with his fart..if the writers decide 😊
Damn superman would destroy that shit in his sleep
@@rileywhalen6554but if Superman does it, it's good writing?🤔
What about kryptonite? Hulk is immortal, and a stone can turn superman into a mere man. Superman also relies on the sun for his powers
Yes, but there are many suns in the universe.
Plus his “charge” lasts nearly an infinite amount. He doesn’t need to be around a sun all the time to have his powers. He needs to have been around one for long enough such that his cells can stay “charged” for nearly infinity, and that’s precisely what happened in his case.
This fight would be fun but ultimately, Clark put him down, then have a heart to heart with Banner afterward about not letting it happen again.
Farting against another dude??? 0:35
Not surprised of the end verdict coming from the guy who has said that Kratos beats Hulk by comparing them against the two vastly different variants of Zeus (who aren't on the same level).
Danco is Hulk hater
All his videos of the Hulk he talk a lot of shit
Facts
Superman beats him regardless easily lol
@@EntitledCamClips Yep, Superman would wash the floor with Kratos.
Superman beats the Hulk and has done it too 3 times in the comics already, of which one was an official crossover done in co-opeation by DC and Marvel, so stfu, Supes solos the bulk every single time
Superman was the 1st comic superhero, almost as fast as the flash, his feats since 1939, have been in comics , TV, movies, net. His character has no bounds, with super speed, strength, invulability, a seasoned smart Superman can beat anyone even with certain weaknesses like krptonite, magic etc.People do not take the entirety of this into account.
Faster than the flash*
@@alexwatts6270 Nah, but close, his other powers make up for it, that 85-year history thang chronicles a lot of powers
Bruh the hulk can keep up with the silver surfer and Thor no one’s getting speed blitzed and you must not read the hulk comics coz if you didn’t know the hulk chunked em with god and we saw if the hulk gives in it’s a lover for the whole multiverse so I don’t care how strong you think poster boy over here is he can’t compete with god himself and that’s what the hulk is go read educate yourself
@@JoeJoe-xb6fo Well all the bs on the net might say that, however if you view the entirety of powers in movies, comics, books since 1939. It shows moving planets. going through the sun, laser beams from him racing the Flash, etc. etc. -Of course we are not talking about Miocic vs Jones, Aspinall vs Jones, Ali vs Fury, but fictional characters, so who cares.
@alexwatts6270 The flash is only fast in the dc universe I heard. Superman however is fast no matter which universe he's in. Marvel or Dc
Dr.Manhattan:
“I could unmake both of your existences in every conceivable universe with a thought. I already have twice and restored you while we were talking”
Dr. Manhattan tried to make it so Supes never existed. However he couldn’t do it because Superman is multiversal constant. He needs to exist and nothing can stop that from happening.
The thing is you have to start adding "World Breaker" or other versions of the Hulk to even begin to compare to base Superman. When these debates begin everyone automatically assumes I'm a huge DC fan but I've always been more of a Marvel fan. I'm 55yrs old and have been a comic fan most of my life. My favorite character is Wolverine and he's been that way long before his popularity exploded. The thing is it's fun to have these "fights " but Stan Lee created Marvel characters to be more identifiable and down to earth. Whole DC charscyer were always meant to be world beaters and "Gods among men" types. Hulk holds up mountains...Superman benchpresses planets.
It's like a fight between unstoppable force and immovable object
Which means, they'll stop fighting, because the answer for "what happens if unstoppable force and immoveable object meets" is "they stop".
No one asked
@DanCo space punisher hulk? That version of hulk wasn't even mentioned.🤔🤨🧐
A huge factor of Hulk is also Banner, who is perhaps his world's preeminent radiological scientist, they can communicate between each other and Banner would most likely very quickly figure out the workings of Superman's powers and even his weaknesses to both kryptonite or magic (and Hulk/Banner do have their good Defenders buddy Dr. Strange on astral speed dial after all).
Really?
What, Banner's just going to LOOK at Superman and suddenly deduce how his powers work, AND that he's vulnerable to some element that Banner's never even heard of?
Come on, man. SMH
And Superman ISN'T vulnerable to magic. He's got the same kind of relationship to magic that Thor has. He's just not INvulnerable to magic.
Even lex Luthor who is levels above Bruce in intelligence took very long to deduce his weakness and that was only through Kryptonute being present.
Bruce has no chance of using his intelligence to defeat Superman.
Superman is stronger, faster, smarter and will win everytime they fight.
Really... they'd call for help? Why stop there? Have superman have Shazam or Dr Fate help out.
There's no way they'd figure out how his powers work. That's not something you can just DO, especially just by looking at him or scanning him. And there is ABSOLUTELY NO way they'd know that Superman has ANY issues with magic (he's NOT vulnerable to it, he's just not INvulnerable to it. Same as Thor). And even if they somehow MIRACULOUSLY figured out that Superman was vulnerable to a substance NO ONE in their ENTIRE universe has ever heard of or seen, and they have NO way to get, it STILL wouldn't help them, precisely BECAUSE they have no way to get any. Plus, this is a simple fight. If Hulk gets to phone a friend, so does Superman. Superman uses his microscopic and multi-spectrum vision powers, figures or Hulk is powered by gamma, and either goes to his Fortress of Solitude at hyper-light speed or calls Batman on speed dial, and gets a machine to siphon off Hulk's gamma and cure him permanently. Then, once he turns back into Banner, he throws Banner in jail.
Or, even better, Superman just grabs the phantom zone projector and pops Hulk into the zone. Forever. End of story.
Superman was invulnerable to magic (at least mostly) in the 1940's, got vulnerable to it during the fifties, was even more vulnerable to it than Aquaman in a JLA story that came out in the late 60's/early seventies but by the 1980's (before Byrne) was only inconvienced by it. Byrne made him overly vulnerable to Mixie (not going to spell that name!) but Superman is much more powerful now than during the John Byrne years so he really shouldn't be such a wuss dealing with it. And Mixie and Dr. Strange have never been invulnerable themselves!@@stormhawk31
It’s all in the hand of the writers who decide the win. Hulk can defeat Superman and Superman can defeat hulk.
Yes I like your thinking 🤔 👍
This is how comic fans should unite
Superman is hulk, flash, cyclops, wolverine with a sprinkle of storm all combined.
I can understand Hulk, Flash and Cyclops but Wolverine?
@@RWSfan2024 super senses: eyesight and hearing
Only around a yellow sun
I’ve always wanted to know who has the best healing factor. Deadpool, hulk, wolverine, or Superman. I’ve never seen Superman lose a limb and grow it back
Hulk does no doubt, and supermans thing is hes so dense that its borderline impossible to rip or cut off a limb only someone like doomsday gave him a compound fracture.
superman doesn’t lose limbs 😂
Nice so true
1st- Sentry
2nd- Lobo
3rd- Hulk
4th- Deadpool/Wolverine
5th - Martian Manhunter.
HMs - Sabertooth, Juggernaut, X-23.
Superman has lost his arm before when he had a disease from brainiac and regrew it back. Happened somewhere in the new 52
I stopped listening at 4min. Feats like, “Lifting a book with infinite pages” and “the Specter who weighed as much as eternity” are the reasons I dislike comics sometimes 😵💫
I know what you mean.
Moving planets also take me out of the stories.
Too unrealistic imo
@@The.eye.amtubelmao cartoon hulk once held up the island of manhattan from sinking 😂
Agreed
since hulk can't fly, simply taking the fight to space would make it superman's win
you can't change your direction if you have nothing to hold on to, so he'll just float on and on while superman can just continue blasting him from range
since it's cowardly it's not something superman would do, but it is definitely effective
My two favorite characters.
Mines as well.
Eh I like manhunter more he’s like super bitch if he had good writing and even better character development hulk is and will always be my #1 tho ngl
Hulk throws Superman into Outerspace, Superman flys back to Earth. Superman throws Hulk into Outerspace, end of story
Correct answer. This has always been my thought. Superman is extremely fast, strong and can fly. This is the obviously what he would do once he figures out how tough hulk is. He could even just fly him somewhere into space away and away from earth and be done with him.
@@Dengland83hulk can use his thunderclap to send himself back to earth
@@arcellgreen4754there's no atmosphere in space how the fk would he clap himself back lmao? Space is a vacuum
@@Boltdriver70 how do rockets move in out of space it’s PHYSICS!
Read more hulk comics and you will see@Boltdriver70
Depends on how long it goes on. On any day? Superman. If it goes on long enough? Hulk. When he says he’s the strongest, it isn’t ego or opinion, it’s a law of nature
If hulk were in the DC universe, his gama radiation would have kryptonite properties
Let me summarize with 11 words, Superman flies the Hulk to the sun, Superman's source of strength, game over.
hulk could just destory the sun with his punches, and is not like superman could keep the hulk from doing anything in mid flight.
The Hulk needs to breath air, while Superman can fly in space. The sun is a gasious ball, not a solid object.
@@richardrichmond8006 hulk could breathe in space too, also hulk could just use thunderclap to destroy the sun. and like I said before "it's not like superman could keep hulk from doing anything midflight"
Lol godzilla beat the whole justice league 🤣
@@richardrichmond8006 False. Hulk does not need to breathe air. Idk where you got that bs from.
I can't agree. Mainly because the more you hurt The Hulk, the more angry he gets. The more angry he gets, the more powerful he gets. The powerful get gets, the more unstoppable he becomes. The more unstoppable he becomes, the less likely he could be defeated. I will say this, IF The Hulk could be defeated, Superman stands the best chance.
Here's something to think about in regards to the claim that Superman has infinite strength/power...
When exposed to red kryptonite, Superman exceeded the amount of sunlight that his body can handle... wouldn't that mean that Superman actually does have a limit to his power!?!?!?! Think about it.
Hulk on the other hand does have infinite strength depending on his rage. Superman fighting him like he would Doomsday would push Hulk to unbearably ridiculous levels of power. So much so that Hulk would go world breaker and beyond which would mean that his body will be emitting gamma radiation which is lethal to Superman. Don't believe me then research Superman's weakness to nuclear power. Superman literally withers to a corpse like state when hit with one nuclear blast. Now imagine Hulk blasting him with a barrage of devastating punches fueled by dangerous levels of gamma radiation... SUPERMAN WOULD BE A PUDDLE OF BLOOD!
The same can be said about Hulk then he fought Sentry he got tired and reverted back to Banner atleast for a while suggesting hes not unlimited to! Superman ones tanked the fucking big bang thats like 1000000000000000000000000 nukes or more!
@skaraturbo obviously you didn't read the comic correctly.
Let me guess, Zues also over taxed his regeneration ability or depowered him in the story where he confronted the gods!? I'd love to see your response before I say anything further
your adding a lot of thing to the hulk that have been changing thru the years in the comics is like if someone starts bringing stuff from superman prime... the point here is the clasic versions of both nad as a matter of fact they have fought in 2 crossovers between dc and marvels at leas 2 that I remember and in both superman won ...that shuld put an end to the discussion plus even Stan lee said that no hero or villan could beat Superman.
@@milopony9625 And i also said Superman wins so i think u attavk the wrong person!
@@jessevargas8564 Again i am not on Hulks side here!
This video really just highlights the massive inconsistencies characters like these have in terms of their power levels. You show all the crazy things that Superman is capable off, yet they'll be a time where he'll struggle to take on a mere human like Batman or Lex. At the end day it just comes down to who the writters want to win.
You should learn what an inconsistency is because you cleary don’t know what it is.
But superman power isn't infinite. Hulk power is.
That don’t mean he can’t be beat 😤
@@jakeryan5099 It also doesn't mean superman can.
I was gonna write down every problem I had with this video in a list. But when DanCo scaled Hulk to High Outerversal but Superman to Multiversal, just to give say they are *SOMEHOW EQUAL.....* I don't see any point in spending an hour to list the problems. That speaks for itself.
He said Hulk is high outer and said feats for superman that technically get him to high outer without actually saying it. But superman with just affecting beings beyond the SoG or the 5th dimension is high outer… layers into it in fact. Simple as that.
@@narrowmax7382 By any chance you can tell me how the Sphere of Gods gets to a High Outer cosmology. I have been researching that for a long time but I just cannot figure out where it comes from.
If the Hulk gets his hands on Kryptonite. It is game over.
“If hulk has a complete unfair adavantage by me giving him something he has no knowledge about and doesn’t have at his disposal then it’s over for superman”
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 I think (or at least hope) that the original comment was a joke. But you still bring up a great point.
Yes, there's that.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 After I read the above comment I said to my self that all the Superman fanboys will come up with a lame excuse. Glad to see you did not disappoint.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934 It's Bruce Banner. If it exists, he'll find it. This IS a crossover, after all and to say that he wouldn't know about it is stupid. If it exists in this multidimensional crossover, Hank Pym would discover it, and Reed Richards would find a way to implement it, and Hulk would then be able to utilize it. This is why Marvel is the better Comic Book Company. Superman IS kinda lame, IMO.
Lol Silver surfer slower than superman he should re-watch his own videos like Silver surfer vs Superman. If Hulk hits the surfer he'll hit Superman easily. Superman cant die ...hmmm tell that to Doomsday
Everyone will have their opinion, but the context to which you used was very Superman bias. Yes Superman has plenty of strength feats that involves his flight that would make him appear stronger, but not one thing you said about Superman strength was greater than a thunderclap that destroyed an infinite universe larger than the Marvel multiverse, a punch to a rock that illuminated that same universe, a thunderclap that temporarily put down the rage and wrath of Marvel’s omnipotent god. It was most obvious in your downplay of Hulk’s battle against King Thor. This was All Father Thor with added power from the Phoenix force and the Titan Gaea and was in world breaker mode and had the power to rip the world tree from its roots and overcome the power and will of all eternity and Hulk in base form was holding his own. Even your information on Superman doesn’t carry weight. Superman was amped by suns that were specifically placed by Batman in a specific order to amp Superman more than he has ever been amped before, he was moving faster than he had ever moved before, and hit the world forger with the strongest punch Superman has ever thrown and none of that is greater than the feats I described for Hulk. Even a weakened Hulk facing the amped Thor I described above destroyed the planet they were on and would have killed anyone who couldn’t survive planetary destruction, but when Superman delivered the most powerful punch he ever has ever thrown Batman was standing right in front of him and wasn’t in any danger. Just saying
Nailed it.
60 days sups with almost hulks strength still claps
How is defeating a multiversal being with one punch not enough to defeat the Hulk who has been defeated by the Sentry(100 million exploding suns power) but was poor mentally going to defeat Superman who’s cosmology is way bigger than Marvel’s universal cosmology.
@@bigbonedones7162 Sentry has never beaten Hulk in a fight. Sentry has a calming aura that normally calms Hulk and they don’t fight. World War Hulk is the only time Hulk and Sentry have ever fought and Hulk won that fight. So what are you talking about? The reason Superman knocking out World Forger is cap is because he had to first be saved from dying by Batman. Then Batman had to line up suns in a specific sequence to power him up further than he has ever been powered up just to knock out a dude who uses machines to forge worlds whereas Hulk has defeated a three times powerful reality warper who can manipulate the multiverse with his thoughts with a single punch while being held down on the ground. No flying, no speed boost, no power amps just Hulk
Superman lifted half of The Book of Infinite Pages, do you know what half of infinity is? Still infinity...Spectre weighs an infinite amount, Superman lifted him...multiple occasions Superman has shattered reality with his punches, even rewrote DC Continuity with his punches. Superman and Hecate Wonder Woman fought demons for over 10k years, nonstop! And all of these feats were done by versions weaker than the current iteration of Superman, determined to be capable of every feat Superman has ever accomplished in any iteration of him. So no, Hulk does not even come close to Infinite Frontier Superman or his feats, and that includes Fractured Son Hulk.
Those speedy punches are great until he pisses the Hulk off
Hulk is just gonna stay mad and superman is still going to be speedblitzing the shit out of him.
@@kawakiuzumaki5934Until Hulk decides to thunderclap
@@swiftstreak98 Even then it'll rattle Superman for a few moments, then all bets are off.
@@captainpharaoh Even though there’s a chance Superman will go depth seeing as how he’s got Super hearing?
@@swiftstreak98 just because he has super hearing doesn't make him go Def from that clap. That's still a physical attack into superman's ears which are still invulnerable
This analysis just reinforces why I don’t like Superman as a concept. He’s so OP in every way it makes him uninteresting to me. Yes, Hulk is OP, too, but he’s still operating within a set of constraints. Superman is quite literally a multi-purpose plot device to tell any story one wants to tell.
His limits are not his abilities, rather his principles, the choices he makes. That is how you tell a good Superman story.
Hulk is my favorite MCU. Character. That being said, yeah...I have to agree. Superman would simply fly hulk into a black hole and dump him there. Game. Set. Match. (..at least for a while)
The MCU dealt Ruffalo’s Hulk a bad hand with the script making him feel like a weak side character completely missing the extreme power that is within and maybe it’s the “version” for the universe but in canon to the comics he could’ve been way more effective than what we fans were given.
BFR is not a win
Hulk can come back from black hole 😂You just can't beat the hulk
KingdomCome Superman vs Rune King Thor
Thor slams
Superboy prime vs Rk thor better match
@@abedisanchez6764superboy primes retcons punch rkt to non existence
@@CloroxBleach-qy7vy yeah i know. But it wont be a easy fight though
if they tell it fairly Superman's greatest weakness other than the green stuff is magic and Thors is pure GOD tire magic. So this is not content Rune King Thor is like 10 Shamazam and Superman struggles with a 15-year shazam due to MAGIC.
One word. Kryptonite. Superman has been thwarted by lex. A dude with no powers. Super genius Bruce on the same page with hulk ? It’s a wrap
Hulk beats him to death. Doomsday is based on hulk
hn superman defeated doomsday more times than he beat him and also ripped doomsday in half
@@dreadheadjae06 He ripped a weakened doomsday in half
@@nelsonisc9670 hulk doesn’t beat superman at the end of the day i’m not arguing about it ✌🏾
@@dreadheadjae06 Judging by his performance against doomsday, konvikt, damage and other slow hulk-like characters from DC I think it's correct to say he can! Maybe the superman you created with your mind stomps the weak hulk you imagined considering in your fantasy world he's an untouchable streak of blur which never has really been the reason the real DC superman wins his fight and the real MARVEL hulk loses a fight in the pages of the comics
@@nelsonisc9670 lol dude i’m not a comic book nerd who sits and reads comics, i mean they make so many different forms and add more and more nonsense to the point where it’s pushing it 😂
If you have equal strength to someone, yet can move a thousand times faster, there is no fight.
If superman brings hulk in space he suffocates the end, not to mention that gamma rays which powers the hulk is also one of the types of radiation that is given off by the sun. So superman could literally absorb the hulks power while fighting him. It isn't close at all. Hulk is awesome and as strong but superman has too many other advantages that hulk cannot compete with. Hulk wouldn't even be able to touch superman unless superman wanted him too!
Hulks best feats: Annihilated an entire planet,
Overpowered the One Below All,
Dented Ultron's adamantium armor,
Lifted a 150 billion ton mountain,
Survived Vector's reality-repelling blasts,
Withstood the weight of a star,
Endured a blast Galactus,
Defeated Abomination, Hercules, Maestro, Sentry
Superman best feats: Saved Felicity Rose, Phaelosians, Earth, the Omniverse,
Shook the Phantom Zone with a punch,
Obliterated the World Forger's multiverse,
Survived multiple Source Wall explosions,
Restored all timelines while fighting Jaxon,
Destroyed Darkseid's true form with a sub-quantum shout,
Defeated Lex Luthor, General Zod, Doomsday, Dominus, Quantum Mechanics, World Forger, Ultraman
and... lost to superman in a 1v1 ... when the hulk was flown into the sun..... the end.
@@roelven1282 When? That shouldn't have killed Hulk.
Thought robot superman lives in the 5th dimension he even talked to the readers... best feat
@@Just_Pelethe problem is they think the mcu version of hulk is his true power.
DC already said that Hulk is stronger than the Superman. Enough said.
When?
Yup this is true. I read the comic. It was back in 2019.
I remember when they said that too!!
Yep they said it but also superman powers had to reduced so many times because it became to boring write but the inportant thing is that even though hulk is now stronger than superman...he will still always win...he is Hope...
@@fernandoalfonica7476 Hulk's powers got nerfed a lot of times as well. It was all these weird transformations with different "colors". They made him gray which was smarter but weaker and then they merged Bruce Banner with the Hulk (like in the Avengers) but he lost his ability to rage etc etc. Same as Superman, in order not to make him boring, they kept changing him...
We already know how and what kills Superman...we are still working on the Hulk. We know Supermans power source...Hulk?..I dunno...I gotta go with Hulk
Nah bruh. How do you NOT mention Kryptonyte as Superman's weakness? All Hulk has to do is have Kryptoniye in his system and the fight is over. Simply ingesting it or whatever, it's not a fight. He'll I can kick Superman's a$$ if I have Kryptonite!!
Superman was once exposed to every type of Kryptonite from the multiverse at once while getting hit by energy thay destroys the muktiverse for days. It was 4 years ago and he survived with flying colors
They have fought twice and superman won both. One of the fights he hit hulk so hard he reverted back to Bruce
Superman’s writers just wanted the most OP spandex guy there is, and they kept adding to the mythos through the years. It’s pretty stupid honestly. If it was truely the case then all of Krypton would have been total chads. Their planet wouldn’t have blown up because they are the OP race.
Hulk is no better in nonsense. His character keeps getting goofier as time goes on because the fans eat that mess up. It’s hard to keep people’s attention and thusly why all the epic levels of goofy come out.
This is why the Watchmen did so well. It’s relatable and even feasible.
Awesome video 🎉
Batman went toe to toe with Superman in the DCEU. And Doomsday killed Superman. When you say it's not even close you're being disingenuous.
that's not even an argument but anyways
Thanos beat Hulk so bad 🤡
Superman does have regeneration abilities from his healing 🤦♂️ he is beyond his physical form every time people think he die because he is more than reality itself
Everyone always forgets about Superman's psychic powers. Dude can literally see your soul. Superman will hold back until Hulk poses too great a danger to… well… everything… When Hulk becomes too great a threat, Superman will reach into Hulk's mind, and contact Banner.
Also, I can't help but notice the people saying that this fight is somehow close. Hulk has been subdued by mere humans with good tech. Unless he's secretly a wizard, or gamma radiation is the real reason kryptonite harms Superman, it really is not even close. If Marvel wants to give Superman a challenge, it will have to be someone like Blue Marvel, Gladiator, or Sentry.
Gladiator I know and Sentry I know but who is Blue Marvel? Any relation to SHAZAM/Captain Marvel?
@@robertmallory1877 Blue Marvel is basically Marvel's version of black Superman.
1 hulk version can defeat all version of superman,if by base hulk lost because superman just faster
but if we take cas(the strongest canon superman vs toba) well you know who wins
Ok but neither of them have the power to get you a date!
Hulk leg drops Superman and pins him!
In the secret wars series the beyonder said his strength has no limit hulk is an elemental force super man has speed but hulk has no limit on strength.
nope. kal-el lugs planets around. over the last 20 years, he's inching back towards silver age, when he used to drag galaxies out of orbit.
look at my handle. i'm not anti-Marvel; supes is WAY more powerful. the version that lost to doomsday? yeah this one would chuck him into a black hole and have a coffee.
The Beyonder was one of my favorite characters
@@dnice374if they’re fighting until one isn’t breathing than Superman is not winning that fight. Sorry buddy..
@Huckleberry9921 ok. Hulk gets bodied at near-light speed, limbs vaporized off and then chucked into the sun but whatever you say.
Hulks 'weakness' is his power is more or less tied to his rage. He gets stronger and tougher the angrier he gets. If you take Hulk out faster than he can get angry...like Thanos did, and Superman could, moving faster than Hulk can think, Hulk is easily beatable.
First you are calling MC Hulk which is not as strong as comics also that Thanos was already wielding the power stone so he had a chance against Hulk
And Hulk can't even fly lol easy win for Superman
well said
@@AbandonedPrecursor1001 but he didn’t use the power stone tho to fight hulk thanos used his own strength and skill alone to beat hulk i mean if you watch the fight over you can see that he never activated the stone and remember thanos is a much more skilled fighter than hulk
That's also how Batman bested Hulk in their comics crossover.
The problem with this conclusion is that it discounts the reality that fighting against the Hulk is fighting against an enemy that literally gets stronger and more fierce and dangerous every time you attack. Hulk's anger is effectively an internal infinite strength battery that gets powered on and powered up every hit he takes. Every time Superman hits him, Hulk gets stronger. Since Hulk is immortal and is fueled by his rage, similar to Juggernaut, he will never stop attacking until his opponent is done. Hulk is not an enemy, he is damn near a force of nature on a cosmic scale.
Who would win is ultimately up to the writer, but objectively, it would be very very close.
The Hulk is confirmed to be practically immortal and can come back from the dead. Not to mention during Donny Cates' run the Hulk assumed a horrifyingly powerful form known as Titan who is essentially the Hulk's Hulk. Titan makes Doomsday look like a pile of rocks rolling down in graceland and would utterly annihilate Superman. The problem is that Hulk and Superman's powers fluctuate from time to time but that's due to who's writing them. But I can safely say that Hulk would overwhelm Superman.
@PoreeGamingandVlogssure but then you have to give the hulk the same treatment so I’d say idk we’ll be using the one below all hulk and if you didn’t know the one below all is the closest thing to god in the marvel universe not a falls god like sup hes actually GOD so regardless sup losses😂🤷🏽♂️
I'd say it's even cause hulk is literally immortal and can just heal from whatever damage superman does to him.
Gets stronger too. Now imagine this fight lasts a long time. Eventually he gets to the level of Superman and might surpass him.
@@cjtomeh4874hulk is as strong as if not stronger than superman, so if the fight goes on for a long time that’s bad news for superman
@@Patricktheluchador nah not at base level. It takes time to reach the level Superman is on.
Hulk is not immortal and he was defeated so many times
@@DragonBallzMoviesHD so has Superman. Your point?
Well, DC brought in a version of the hulk. Called him Doomsday.
And we all know how that ended.
Hulk can hold a black hole
Superman did too, but without more data both are meaningless, BH's are a matter of (no pun intended) density, not total mass- the moon would make a BH about the size of a grain of sand.
@@Spikebert supes also held the heavens
While many may think that Superman's strength is unlimited, it is not. However, The Hulk's strength has been documented to be only limited by his anger level. The more angry he becomes the stronger he becomes and that is unlimited. The Hulk would smash the s*** out of Superman any day of the week.
Can he breathe in space? All sups has to do is fly his ass into space and hulk can get mad about that 😂😂
Superman’s power also infinitely increases
@kawakiuzumaki5934 especially with a yellow sun nearby. Dude could just fly star to star grabbing more power as he drags Hulks dead ass around the galaxy 🤣🤣
Hulk wins, because that is how I would write it.
Superman's strength is limited by the sun (which DOES have a cap on the power that it emits). Hulk's strength is truly UNlimited (with literally NO cap on it). So, unless they're fighting in a solar system that consists of infinite binary suns, then Hulk's gonna spank that ass EVERY time!... And even THEN, really.
Superman's gonna have to keep leaving the fight to get close enough to the sun to re-up on his power levels. Which Hulk will never have to do. Not to mention that if Hulk holds him back from getting close enough to the sun to recharge, then he's REALLY gonna be done for.
Sorry man, but I've been a comic fan of BOTH these guys for right at 40 years,, and Hulk definitely wins this one. Even though I like Superman just as much, if not even BETTER in ways, I can't take the victory away from the true champion of raw "power"!
That doesn't make much sense since they both get their powers from radiation. The sun emits electromagnetic radiation which includes among other things, gamma radiation. The sun emits 380 septillion watts per second, all of that energy doesn't come to earth but if supes fly to the sun before his fight he'd be absorbing a lot of that. There is no way that hulk has more energy in his cells than our sun emits. How could such a small being produce more energy in his cells than a star that is literally a continuous nuclear explosion 109 times the diameter of earth. Even for a comic book that's just ridiculous.
@@rtdsbg1 Remember that time that Superman busted up half of Asgard, smashed ODIN HIMSELF into the ground (almost killing him), and made a young Thor look like he might as well be wearing baby diapers??...
Oh, wait,, that was HULK!
It's always been a thing that Hulk's power is limited only by his level of rage (at any given time), which has the potential to be LIMITLESS.
Without our yellow sun, which DOES have a limited reservoir of power/energy for Superman to draw from, "Superman" is just, well,, "Man"...
Some of the ONLY weaknesses of the Hulk, are magic, psychokinesis, telekinesis, telepathy, etc...
@@sarlaccstapeworm990 You didn't take into account anything I typed. Comic books are all over the place. Someone can always pull some random comic out of their butt to explain why someone would win. It's all up to the writers. Supes wins and everyone knows it.
@@rtdsbg1 You say, "it's all up to the writers", and then state the OPPOSITE of what's most often written! 😂🤣
As an old-timer who started buying comics in the 70's and 80's, this was why I was not alone in buying Marvel over DC. The characters have limits. Meanwhile, DC is full of Superman clones and almost every character who wasn't, they've bumped up in power to Superman levels. The power level increases for the Hulk in recent years is probably part of the reason why the Spiderman movies are doing so well. The character has been popular for decades, but I think people are tired of seeing overpowered heroes. Time to scale things back.
Agreed! Things are getting out of hand and every time you turn around the Power Pecking order changes. At this rate Daredevil will punch out Galactus!
They made Superman wayyyy too powerful.
I'd like to see him as Sundipped. In every comic for a year.
_"They made Superman wayyyy too powerful."_
They did, but the weakness to kryptonite was there to balance that out.
Nowadays Wonder Woman seems nearly as powerful as superman, if not more with the fighting ability, but with no weaknesses.
@@MarkH-cu9zi Doomsday beat her to a pulp.
@@kingsman8475 Yeah I don't think they are on the same level. But it seems that have made her closer to him in recent times and I've see a lot of people trying to make the case that she would beat him. In the past she has been nowhere near him physically.
@@MarkH-cu9zi He has never wanted to hurt or fight her he is a true gentleman.
Superman is so overrated. There’s too many characters that would beat tf out of Superman and Hulk is one of them
Easily
Hulk can't even fly lol 😂 Superman easy win
Gladiator would defeat Superman. Thor (2024) would defeat Superman….
I think it would be a back and forth between them. Hulk is still human and has Bruce Banner, so he has intelligence backing him up. Where as Supes has the good nature that he got from his parents. Truly epic regardless.
Hulk is a better character just more relatable. Superman is not relatable and thats what makes him boring. The whole joke of One Punch Man is characters like Superman. Absurd stupid characters that are OP and have no limits.
If you can't relate to Superman you're not a good guy.
@@svensvensson2724 please tell me how you relate to Superman. I’ll wait. You must have a very high opinion of yourself. If you relate to Superman or like him that’s fine I just personally find characters that have little to no flaws whose main premise is that they are unbeatable to be boring and lazy. We are all human so the most relatable characters are ones that have some deep or troubling humanistic quality. Some sort of moral or ethical battle.
Honestly I’m not big fan of all the new characters that can warp or change reality. So basically they have not limitations and can do anything. Boring.
@@jaymanjay3.0Normal people relate to Superman as a good person that does not abuse his power.
Abnormal people can not relate to Superman because he does not just take whatever he wants like they would.
Which one are you?
@@svensvensson2724 first all there are sagas where Superman isn’t a good person at all and becomes a dictator. Second, you can be a good person and still have flaws. It’s not a question of you’re either evil or good. There is nuance in between and that’s what makes it interesting. Superman does not struggle to do good nor is he even human he is from another planet. You know who is relatable but still absurdly powerful? Blue Marvel!!! Because he has every right and reason to hate growing up in world or racism where the people he saves hate. Yet. He continues to do the right thing. It is easier to do the right thing when you beloved it is much harder to do the right thing even when hated. That is an interesting dynamic and better written story than Superman.
@@jaymanjay3.0There's a lot of bad stories about anything.
I told you what Superman is about.
It's got nothing to do with crap writers.
Hoolee crap. I can't help but agree. You had me at "speed".
Now, I'm not a fan of "freeze breath". I think heat vision is possible, and awesome! So I'll go there.
For me, with Kal, it's always been his speed!:)
The idea for freezing breath is based on the same principles as the wind around buildings getting colder the faster it blows in tight areas (no doubt how DC came up with the idea). Now if Superman is blowing out with his lips nearly closed (no jokes here please!) and speeds said air up it is freezing! If he is blowing the air out with his mouth open as forcibly as he can it is like a concentrated wind tunnel more like a hurricane than a freeze breath. Okay?
You didnt really go into their weaknesses, superman needs yellow sunlight. Hulk might have an advantage at night and def anywhere theres a red sun
I wish he would read more of the current comics. The hulk and current comics has been going up against the door that has the door force which makes them stronger than Odin was and he's been going up against that kind of level of power and has been winning against that level of power
You wasting your time because these guys are superstans. Knocking out a guy with your most powerful punch because he is powerful does mean that you are powerful, but doesn’t Batman being in whispering distance of him when he is struck says that it is less powerful than a punch that destroyed the planet the fighters were standing on. If Batman was present when Hulk and Thor’s punches collided he would have died with the planet, but when Superman knocked World Forger out Batman was there to welcome him back.
And you clearly haven't been keeping up superman comics. This guy literally destroyed true form darkseid. Odin force is a bitch slap compared to that.
@@banglamama1027 yes, but TF Darkseid pales in comparison to all reality
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@@jonathanthompson7222 do you have any idea how the DC cosmology works? TF darkseid literally lives outside of reality. The DC and marvel cosmology Don't work the same way. There's a reason why even street level DC characters beat top tier characters from other verses in death battle.
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Problem is, Superman will always hold back. Hulk has one ability that Superman lacks, and it's a big one. The longer he fights, the more he gets hit, the angrier he becomes.... which causes him to literally get stronger the more rage he feels. Which then increases his stamina, his strength, and how much more harder he hits as a fight progresses. This is why literally beings that start out just as strong as the Hulk, can never win if a fight goes longer than a literal minute. Ben Grimm (The Thing), Red Hulk, literally anyone who is as strong as the Hulk at the very start of a fight, while get weaker the longer a fight lasts. Meanwhile, the Hulk will just get angrier and stronger the longer it continues. Superman, no different. Plus, we all know he's going to hold back.
if thanos was able to beat hulk in a few punches.... we already know
Interestingly enough Thor had two wins in a fight wth Thanos and one of those times Thanos even had Mangog helping! Maybe we should be talking Thor Vs. Superman instead!
@@robertmallory1877lol, Thor CANNOT beat Superman bruv.
@@russellclarke1997Thor can beat Superman. It'll pretty close fight where either one can win.
@@russellclarke1997 Sure can, Mjolnir is magical.
Superman would just sneeze hulk into an Oblivion. But no hulk isn't in the strength level either
Also if Superman got a shot at throwing Hulk into the sun, there wouldnt be a comeback for the green giant.
I know they made in the animated series Hulk "clap" back to earth, but once in space, he would be donzo.
@@gotrix2965 and people would say he has Radiation that isn't the power of the sun 🤷♂️
hulk can destroy sun...
hulk can comeback to earth
is like you have pistol in space,you can comeback to earth with that
@@HORROR-vt1gm hulk Radiation is weaker than the sun's and it isn't the same. Once hulk is gone from reality he can't come back
@@Onguard8737 Just be quiet already. You dont know nothing about the Hulk
No one mentioned the kryptonite that can hurt super man
Hulk already destroyed Superman and Saitama..
I'm sorry, no. We've seen this fight already. Superman was beaten to death by Doomsday, who is basically DC Hulk.
Superman is 3-0 against the hulk in the comics
Calling doomsday "DCs Hulk" is such an embarrassment for doomsday itself. Doomsday will literally put his feet on hulks face and crush it like its a concrete
You are funny hulk will win DC said it. I like DC because they giving more Respect to hulk. If hulk was in DC he will be much stronger.
Marvel do not know hulk was born to Destroy.
@@MohamedKortu Born to destroy but got absolutely destroyed by she hulk
Superman tries to use the sun but hulk smashes it. Hahaha
I already knew the outcome was going to be B.S. hulk loses? You deliberately left out ton of hulks victories and Supermans failures for example hulk would had taken down doomsday with a lot less effort and walked away with swag plus speed heat vision nor is breath would mean anything against hulk remember anger does just make hulk stronger it also gives him more endurance and one last example super hearing against thunder clap this half assed research would cut it.
As mentioned below, Kryptonite is where Hulk defeats superman. To Hulk, kryptonite is just a rock he'd bust up without noticing.
If anyone hands the Hulk kriptonite...the Hulk can win. Superman would never use full strength because there are too many inocent people. Professor Hulk can use the infinity stones, Anytime Superman is at a weakened stay. The hulk has a chance.,eventually Superman has to recharge with the Sun. The Hulk doesn't have to recharge. The Hulk gets stronger and stronger the more angry he gets. The Hulk can obsorb radiation and radiate it out. If the Hulk obsorbs kriptonite...whe knows what it could do to him and Superman.
Superman is his own worst enemy here, like you said he is going to hold back and effectively anger Hulk making him stronger, if Superman doesn't hit that next level quick enough then Hulk is going to keep out pacing him until at the very least a punch from Hulk would destroy the planet which I assume Supes would see and throw in the towel.
People do forget it is only proximity to the sol yellow sun that gives kal el his power, if Hulk took him out of the solar system to a red sun system it would be a different story. This is the problem with all of these comic hero fights, there are so many versions where each is worse than the other. How was a mere mortal, lex luther supermans nemesis for so long if superman is that powerful, and how does Batman, a mere human have a superman defeating plan, in case superman turns rogue.
Same as Ironmans HulkBuster armour, meant to be good enough to stop hulk.
Really? Then how did Superman get effectively killed by Doomsday?
Superman speed is key, he grabs hulk ,flys to outer space 1000s of light years away, and leaves the hulk drifting in space.
Exactly Hulk can't even fly
right because superman speed definitely helped him againts the parasite, doomsday, darksied, poison iv, deathstroke, batman, the yellow lantern, lex luthor robots, lobo, and many other who literately tags superman without having super speed
your right superman speed certainly is key againts the hulk
@@BARDOCK550 and neither can deathstroke, poison ivy, joker, lex luthor, and lobo, doomsday and many others, did they also have a problem with it???
Nah, Hulk could body Doomsday and Doomsday killed Superman. Soooo the math speaks for itself