The Ultimate Palworld Plagiarism/Creativity Tier list
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Honestly ur previous video review games and stuff have been fair so I'm all for it
Good opinions tbh.
@@OnADock I agree lol like how some are shoved around just becuade they look weird lol
I do find it funny that the hangyu situation changed so fast. When palworld was assumed to have made theirs second, it was stolen, but when it was proved that palworld had the design first, suddenly it was "just a big coincidence" instead of actually reversing the accusations and saying they stole from palworld...
But if that old trailer didn't have the design there for 3 seconds, people would never believe palworld that it was "just a coincidence"
was the other person making money from the design or something? Don't know if anyone needs to bandwagon and accuse them of much but you can pop off if you want
Copying is copying regardless if it makes cash right? That's what this situation is about. They was super fast to throw out the accusations, but then when they were proven to be second, it was an instant shift to "it's a coincidence". If it's an issue one way, why is it not an issue the other way? That's all I'm asking...
I feel like many people have already deemed it "a ripoff" despite its unique combination of mechanics. I haven't seen all the Pals and there are definitely some that look VERY much like pokemon, but I think that in general it's hard to make a creature collector that is not at least slightly inspired by pokemon.
There are other issues with the creators, but the copyright isn't a big deal to me here.
Pokemon copies itself all the time. Can you name all the bird pokemon that wield a plant as a weapon? There's a few.
The fact is, chibi monsters have been done. There's only so many directions to go, whether it's Pokemon struggling to design #900-1000 or some other developer.
@@darekpower As the saying goes "Be careful when you dig a grave for someone else. You might just fall in yourself"
The Hangyu fakemon turned out to be made 2 years after the Palworld pal, so thats a call the cops in reverse.
japanese indie devs are truly the most oppressed race
Sparkit: *Has a Raichu tail*
Circle: *Calls it a Pikachu tail*
Everyone scramble into the bunkers. The "Um, akshually" guys are coming!
Well the Editor did put Raichu there at least.
Lamball is S tier, simply because they are funny guys who make a funny noises when you KO them and roll down hills at sonic speeds
how dare you kill a lamball you sicko!
Mixing legality with a chart for preference is hilarious. Imagine your lawyer being like " your honor, my client may have killed his mother... but honestly look at this dudes fit! It is straight up on point, I think we can lower the sentence.
Reminds me of a conversation I had with some friends about Joseph Stalin and how is eternal punishment would be reduced because he had a FANTASTIC mustache
Yeah, that mix made this video really weird but honestly also pretty entertaining
Eikthyrdeer and Xerneas are both based on a specific deer in Norse mythology. It just looks like that.
Yeah i play valheim and the deer boss wich is also base off Eithyr look exactly like this it just the design of the Eithyr in general
Same with Fengelope and Cobalion, they are based on the same mythological figure
Many designs for pokémon and Palworld creatures are just normal animal with one weird trait and anime eyes.
To be fair, that is Pokemon's design philosophy. "Animal + Fantastical Feature + Some Humanization = Pokemon" is basically Game Freak's bread and butter. And it works. It makes the designs simple but identifiable. I think that's why people dislike the heavier human elements on things like the starters or the over complexities of the Ultra Beasts. Those designs are not bad, but they don't feel like Pokemon.
@crowqueenamps sure myb, but you can't cancel something bc it feels weird or like something else... people these days became so easily offended and i think pokemon staff knows that ass well (okey besides the obvious rip-offs)
@@Luka-qp7uc
Oh, trust me that when the discourse first came up I let out an audible groan. While I personally don't care for Palworld (I never got into Ark or similar games), I also can't call it a rip-off for the most part. Do I wish the creature designs were a little more creative? Yes. But the gameplay is fundamentally different from Pokemon other than creature capture mechanics...which is a genre. Creature capturing is a genre, not something Game Freak owns.
@@crowqueenamps totally agree
@crowqueenamps most Pokémon as of recent don't feel like Pokémon because they ignore one of the two design principles of Pokémon, being that they should be simple enough to be recognizable if drawn by a three year old, most of the recent Pokémon have designs that would be hard for anyone to draw because of the unnecessary amount of detail put into them, why do you think they only added six new Pokémon per dlc? Because they were so overdesigned that they were the only ones that were deemed acceptable to the standards which are being pushed far too much
in the case of the fakemon look alikes, i think its almost unfair to ask them to avoid looking like ALL the fakemon that exist. there are just TOO MANY and they can be so obscure, its would be impossible to check your design against ALL the fakemon that are out there and so i can see how it happens.
THANK YOU! The arrogance of assuming a company across the world stole your specific design in a niche part of the internet is insane
@@johnnyhall9154 i wouldnt go as far as to say insane, more so that its just unlikely. Occam's Razor can be applied here to ask, is it more likely that they stole the design or simply that 2 artists who were both influenced by pokemon came to very similar conclusions when making a new monster?
@@VencentCross I mean, I have drawings of a Fakemon I made in middle school of a rabbit that uses its claw like ears to dig. Years before Diggersby came out. So yeah.
That's what I've been saying. Pokemon copied all animals and objects. Most are just haters because Palworld is so big and a bunch of stuff they wish pokemon was. Open world, pals help around the base, no turn battle, ppl can gang up on 1 palmon and open season on who throws their sphere first, and much more. Pokemon followed the same stale formula since 90s with a few gimmicks added. If pokemon would of did this, then Palworld wouldn't exist or barely be noticable.
@@la8ball really i actually like Legends Arceus more, myself but then game freak never iterated on that game and instead made 2 lacking remakes and another by the numbers mainline sequel and im just sick to death of those. generally if i want good classic pokemon games, i'll play a fangame or romhack like Uranium or Unbound or Bushido!
Pengking is what Quaxly should've evolved into. Fight me
So a second starter to evolve into a pengiun..... *How uncreative and recycled*
tbf there have been 2 crocodiles, 2 monkeys, 2 cats, 2 turtles, and 2 blaziken
@@Sonichero151Ironically enough, Penking is not a penguin but a weird looking duck, it’s not related to Pengullet and it’s more in line with another Pal named Fuack (this game is wild)
I think Quaxly’s final evo and Penking would be boyfriends
I can’t tell if Depresso being put in 'UHHHHHH' tier is a scandalous injustice or exactly where Depresso would personally place itself.
He wants to be there its ok
that's just the sound he makes
27:56 Fun fact : Lucario is actually based on the egyptian God anubis
I can't believe Palworld stole from Pokemon, who stole from Egypt.
To be fair, there's a million ways to depict Anubis that doesn't look like Lucario. Pal Anubis has a similar face and body structure, he's clearly meant to be the Pal equivalent of Lucario. Not a 100% copy like some others but still clearly "inspired" by Pokemon.
@@charliemacsartthere's literally paintings of the god. Palworlds is closer to those depictions than Lucario
@@ralcogaming7674 yes, but the question is moreso whether anubis is more similar to lucario than the pictures (with creative freedom). because you could take lucario and barely make it look closer to the original design and it would still be stolen from pokemon.
(Personally I agree with you though, it's really just a walking dog-guy)
@@jffrysith4365 while that's true for the most part I think they're different enough there's no chance. Alot of people are forgetting you can copyright part of a design like this.
I think Chillet not being S tier is the biggest offense here.
I ride my noodle buddy everywhere and he always has cute calls. This is such sacrilege to have him less than S
All we are is given to Chillet.
Almost lost my subscription because of this blunder! 😜
He isn't just adorable, he's also the only pal that gives you a dragon type attack.
Rocket launcher against the final boss on a chillet hits like a truck
@@Zackreaver Though I share your love of Chillet. It isn’t the only pal to give you Dragon attack damage. So does Quivern
Honestly, in the "CALL THE COPS" tier, I only see 4-5 of them that could be considered "plagiarism", the rest are either based on the same concept (Like Anubis) or they just have the same color pattern
Great tier nontheless
Indeed, like cattress in "call the cops" ? why ? Oo
Or the " caballion clone "... the only comparison between the two is the colors and beeing fourlegged animals with horns... the whole body is really different.
Anubis is based on... anubis... just like lucario...
It's funny people often says that robinquill is based on gallade since it have the blaziken legs ^^
And wixen is our regular fox wizard^^
In "call the cops" i think i'd only see cremis, verdash and the water pal and all of them have more changes than people would admit, like with verdash they changed :
-It's face
-It's hair
-the collar thing
-It's tail
-It's ears
You forgot my favorite pal…
WANDERING MERCHANT
Wandering Merchants pretty up there, but have you caught a Mercenary with a Wounded Knee yet?
I got OG Merchant, Ammo Merchant, and Pal Drops Merchant Pals! (Renamed) how about you?! Haha
Can’t forget about our Pal Trader Pal and Slave Merchant Pal. Definitely a Dark type
10:07 that fake-mob was made after the trailer that showed hangu so it’s pure coincidence.
Or it was the other way round 😂
@@Dumb-Comment Really living up to your name aren't you.
Wixen and Katress are suppose to be based on Merlin and Morgana. As their deck entries state that they fight with each other everytime they meet.
28:18 i really dont see anubis and lucario. If youre designing a character off of anubis, they are gonna have a dog head and human body. Thats just how Anubis works. Both lucario and this Anubis are based off of the same dude. However, their colour palettes are completely different, lucario has dog paws and anubis straight up has human hands and feet. Anubis is definitely in the fine tier. But Uhhhh at the lowest.
Ponyta being compared to the deer Pal while Circle saying the Pal doesn't look like a deer so it's not similar to Ponyta and Ponyta being a... Pony 💀. sorry that exchange was funny for me
Yeah I have no idea what he was on about lol. Ponyta isn’t a deer.
I honestly thought I was losing my mind during that part...
@@zergling50it's literally in the name PONYta it really messed me up to the point that i actually had to rewind because i thought i was tripping.
The thing i love the most about the plagiarism accusations, is how many Pokemon fans ignorantly believe that Pokemon is original content.
If they're not based upon real-life creatures or folklore, then the Pokemon are a lot like creatures seen in other cartoons and games.
Wait til they see the original sprites compared to Dragon Quest
@@johnnyhall9154I looked at them, the pokemon designs are very distinct from their Dragon Quest "counterparts"
Circle: "Anubis is just Lucario"
Bruh, Lucario was based off Anubis. Like Ancient Egypt Anubis. Palworld just said, "To hell with subtlety, we're putting the Egyptian god of the underworld in the game."
To be fair, there's a million ways to depict Anubis that doesn't look like Lucario. Pal Anubis has a similar face and body structure, he's clearly meant to be the Pal equivalent of Lucario. Not a 100% copy like some others but still clearly "inspired" by Pokemon.
why is it proportioned like lucario tho?
Anubis is mostly a normal human with a animal head like many Egyptian gods, the body type is very specific to lucario only.
@@SenpaiSamaKun lucario had human hands? And yeah, Palworld Anubis is a person with a dog head.
@@charliemacsart oh you’re absolutely right. But it’s not lawsuit material that circle thinks it is. I’ve seen more blatant Lucario rips. Some mobile game ad had a poster of a hero named Lucas. He was a blue, black and gold anthro dog who fought hand to hand… Actually was just lucario but with more muscle.
@@soldierhobbes1182 Oh definitely but I think Circle is just joking around. Like he knows it’s a ripoff but he isn’t giving serious legal decisions hahah
In the case of the model comparison. It should be well known at this point, the guy that did them faked it. He upscaled and stretched out the pals to make them fit. He did this because he didn't like the "animal cruelty" that was in the game. Yea, he has admitted to doing this.
While it's true that doesn't mean that it's a bad practice to upscale models when comparing them, if things like that aren't done you can't really compare them becase one model will probably be insede the other , stretching is somewhat needed sometimes too but that is a case to case basis
@@nechocat1234 It still stands that his argument of upscaling was made entirely in bad faith, and proven to be false accusations. Even without that, you'd end up with the same results with any animal. Match two creatures based off wolves and overlap them you will always have a similar overlap. Same with lions, and birds, and well anything.
@@alchemi802 that is completly false, while some parts of the body will be similar for ir to be recognize as that animal I can assure you that garurumon, lycanrock and worgs are different even odogaron and lunagaron are really different and they are from se same franchise, saying that creatures based in animals will be the same is an insult to the creative process
@@alchemi802 How you compare if the scale not even the same with each other?
Yeah no him doing it in bad faith just because of the "animal cruelty" in a video game about fake animals in a world with established slavery, public torture, etc. Is pretty bad. But that doesn't stop the fact the Palworld team definitely ripped the model of the pokemons hair, scaled it down/up and slapped it on their own model. It was stolen and even with the fact this guy found this, to only speak about it to bring down others, it's still stolen art. It's minor theft but, theft nonetheless.
Honestly is crazy how its in early access but still works better than scarlet and violet
Idk maybe gamefreak need to start using actual engine over what ever the fk they currently using
21:28: I mean it's a fox wizard that is mainly using fire not really surprising to find a similar art laying around
Hangyu was already conceptualize way before the artist made the art similar to hangyu😅
heads up the mesh post you referenced the poster came out and admitted he resized lots of individual parts of the meshes to make them seem more similar
He didnt say he resized parts of the mesh. He said he scaled the entire model down so its easier to compare
@@johnedwards4313 no he said he scaled down individual parts of certain meshes like with the two wolves/dogs and left other parts the same size so they “could be more easily compared” but really what that did is make them all seem way more similar than they actually were
@@Olm- Didn't he also admit that the only reason that he did this in the first place was cause he didn't like how cruely Pals were shown being treated?
@@kiljadaenyupp. And then when someone said "yeah but pokemon does that too" his response was "oh yeah I think that's bad too" yet doesn't put any energy into combating pokemon the way he did Palworld
@@Olm- the guys that provide the model compare (@byofrog) literally said they only scale uniformly, stop spreading misinformation.
Some Pokemon are so generic in appearance, it seems unfair to say that no one can use certain animals for anything in a creature collector.
Is that what people are complaining about tho? I've seen no people actually saying that.
You would agree Pals do look like they're from pokemon, no? Genuinely curious.
@@ranzu3138 I've seen some make that arguement for chillet being to simmilar to furret, dispite furret just being a ferret.
@@MrMariosonicman yeah, I think that's stupid.
@@MrMariosonicman do you think Pals look like Pokemons tho?
@@ranzu3138 only the gigantamax eevee.
The realization that penking is supposed to evolve from fuack and not pengullet…
I think Penking is actually a platypus, despite it's name. It's got that platy tail
No idea how the idea of deer with big antlers is a design that belongs to pokemon now.
Well we have to sue Odin now bot even the all father is safe from nintendo
"He's not a Ponyta cause he isn't a deer, SEE"
right cause PONYta is a deer... what?
As others have pointed out before, Mau is actually based on Egyptian cats, particularly their funerary cats and statuary.
They're always depicted as wearing jewelry and such, and the fact that Mau generates gold for you while in the farm is based on that.
I feel like the problem is that any Pal based on an animal/myth is going to be compared to pokemon based on the same thing, and since there are over 1000 pokemon, there will be overlap. Like he was saying about Lamball, you can't really make a sheep-based creature that doesn't resemble the Wooloo or Mareep families.
Well, you don't count Fakemon as a part of a criterion where the legality matters- they are derivative of Pokemon. Pals and Fakemon don't have much things to worry for plagiarism/infringement.
...You most certainly do. Something being 'fakemon', doesn't suddenly make it public domain. "Fakemon" is just a fan term, not a legal classification.. The artist still owns a copyright on it, unless it's literally "What if pink piplup!?"
“Palworld do things like this, these are so inspired, so unique”
Literally a chicken for a model…😅
I mean milk tank ain’t to original either😭 or pidove pidove is just a pigeon😭 14:21
@@ArjunGrewal-rv1ep miltank more inspired than a fair bit of pals honestly, people have completely lost the concept of originality
You could've picked a way better pokemon as an example
Also piDOVE is not a pigeon, it's a DOVE
Pi-DOVE
@@lazybones8962 doves and pigeons are the same species of birds, just different breeds. Common pigeons are also known as rock doves. It's also literally classified in the pokedex as the tiny pigeon pokemon.
@@lazybones8962 while you are correct, so is @arjungrewal-rv1ep
Pidgeons and doves are literally the same thing. they are both terms that refer to over 300 species of birds in the columbidae family. the only difference is "Dove" came from nordic languages, and "Pidgeon" came from french
Those pidgeons you see in new york? those are both called "Rock Doves" and "Rock Pidgeons"
So saying that "Pidove is dove, not a pidgeon", thats like saying "that square is not a polygon, it's a shape!"
the only possible difference is colloquial, where people will usually call the smaller individuals of these birds doves.
The shape kinda reminds me of the chicken gun chickens. Idk my little brother used to play the game but it’s been a while so I might be misremembering. But based off memory it looks REALLY similar to the chicken gun chickens. Not that they can get sued over it. Round chicken isn’t really anyones specific design.
11:00 that's just a deer lmao. Pokemon didn't invent deers
as someone who is a major fan of sea serpent designs
jormuntide looks nothing like most sea serpents ive seen
the closest thing you could say is that it has a segmented body like gyarados but even that's a stretch
others will point out the whisker looking things which i will bring up is a very common design choice for sea serpents
So Pokemon owns any reference to Mythology.
It's been a treat watching my friend playing Palworld and just having fun comparing them to actual pokemon. It's never serious (okay well maybe some are a little spot on) but it's for fun. We just mess around. Chad Gumoss my goat.
The KINGPACA Mafia will remember this.
Fenlope is done dirty here it base off a chinese mythical beast and it literally base off different animal than a pokemon one
1:39 let's all pray for our all mighty saviour chikpie
I really don't understand the Anubis and Lucario comparison the only similar thing is that there both canine humanoids other then they they hav different shape,color, and design
I mean both of them were base on anubis and unlike alot of mythology where the look of some being are only describe through text anubis have a picture so ofcourse it's in the same general shape
@@Cracker_Smacker Oh wow didn't even know Lucario was based on Anubis cuz they really don't have much of a egyption style to him like Pals version does.
@@sm3ghe4d22I gotta be honest, I have never seen anyone compare Lucario to Anubis(god) before all of this Palworld thing happened, it just looked like a dog/jackal, suddenly PalAnubis exists and people are like “B-But Lucario is based on Anubis, plagiarism!” when as you said, there’s nothing Egyptian about Lucario besides being a jackal
@@bonelesschickennuggets1868 Yah ikr like is there like any confirmation by the creators of Lucario saying that was there inspiration?
Btw whats funny is one guy said one of the reasons anubis is a rip is because they both have a blue aura xD
Like I don't even know if Anubis has one but even if he did Blue glowing aura's are not that unique in animes.....
Digtoise is definitely my personal favorite. Already a sucker for any turtle monster, the Blastoise and Bowser comparison just adds to it for me. Hope we get a frog Pal in the future.
28:05 "obviously supposed to evolve from mau"
A cat evolving into a dog... the only thing in common is the Egyptian motif. Some of these you must have smoked a bad batch beforehand.
Bro, the ice path theme always slaps. Good ost choices.
Problem with pokemon is they are sometimes based on animals. And you can't really make a sheep or a fox look to crazy different
The Hangyu one got debunked since Hangyu was shown in an old trailer long before that artist drew the 'copycat'.
Hangyuu’s controversy turning out to be a coincidence is testament to the fact that most good ideas already exist in some form. If you have a “good idea” someone has probably already thought of it before.
The artist saying “THIS time it’s a coincidence” is a little annoying though. Can’t even fully admit to a mistake.
Chasing “complete originality” is as impossible as it is ridiculous. But yeah the Mega-Eevee is bad.
19:08 "just because his name is Dugtoise and huh Blastoise exist"
Tortoise is an animal commooooon
Yeah that killed me, also when he called chillet a salamander even though it's a ferret at 16:05
Dreadnaw: *I'M RIGHT FUCKING HERE*
Time to sue galapagos island
No one gunna talk about the fact that pokemon isn't all that original either back with Dragon Quest, and also the fact that most of these are also based on animals, which are not intellectual property. Lol
No
At least pokemon look different than dragon quest. Before palworld no one was comparing Pokemon to dragon quest. It's just a weak argument for people who think palworld isn't going to get sued out of existence
@@user-kt4gl3kv1e Then why haven't they sued yet? Since you sound so confident that this will happen.
@@kiljadaen if I knew I would tell you In a heartbeat. But my crack theory is that the lawyer team is dead. My real theory is that this feud will end up getting gamefreak more money, and if it doesn't, or it eventually stops then they will sue. At the end of the day video games is a business same as any other.
@@user-kt4gl3kv1e Obviously haven't seen the og sprites compared to dragon quest sprites
Few of these are absolutely reaching 100%. Also you can’t say Pokemon owns certain design features because they don’t.
Pokemon owns general animal design. LOL! If its an animal its copyright infringement. Better get rid of your pets before Nintendo comes a knocking.
Pokemon doesn't own design features, no one does. They are however entitled to their art style even if not legally, which Pals are clearly plagiarizing.
@@ranzu3138 "Clearly"
@@KittyCatMeowMeowTime yeah? Shape design, proportions, and the fact that everyone and their mom called it Pokemon with guns.
They look like Pokemons, it's intentional.
If not, what's different between Pokemons and Pals' art styles?
@@ranzu3138so pokemon owns cutesy artstyle now?
At least with the Pals, you can actually do stuff with them in and out of battle, Pokémon is just battle and walk with you… and that’s it. Even if some of these are *stolen*, still better than most recent Pokémon games.
What exactly do you do with the pals? Like with pokemon you can also have a picnic with them, make a sandwich, play with toys, wash em...... and the pals..... is.... slave labor?
Ride them anywhere, actively help you in the base and can be assisted to do various, the special abilities and Pal Skills that Pals can do. And their only slaves if you treat them like that
@@Sonichero151 I just threw a pizza party for my pals, made them hot springs and upgraded their beds. Gave them pets for their hard work. I have 60 of them out and about, and the ones that aren't great in combat are usually gardening, farming or cooking - it's actually easier to just sell stuff to buy ammo, etc, so I barely have them doing any assembly tasks. I built a small town on top of a mountain for them.
What have you done with the dozens of pokemon you have shoved in a pc box? Wouldn't it be nice to have some sort of, I dunno, Secret Base or something where you could have a dozen or so pokemon doing something in a way that felt alive and interactive? Wouldn't it be nice to have a place where you could see more of your favourite lil creatures just living a mundane life, doing chores around the place, napping, etc? Something that feels rewarding for collecting more of the ones you like beyond just filling out a dex and filling boxes? That's something that Palworld actually gives.
WOAH, you have a face! Somehow, I never look directly at videos, I just listen. What a pleasant surprise. Also, Gobfin totally looks like Stitch to me. Calling it now at 10:53, Grintale's gotta be for the cops- Those ears were totally Skitty to me!
The face is 1:1 Galarian Meowth's, which is the worst part imo. The rest of the design is generic enough that it's not copying anything
What I think is the funniest part about that Pal is it's Catbus. Light up eyes and its a rideable mount.
Seeing your face with various voices is wild to me cause it its not what I imagiend at all. ALso sylveon for the pink rabit is what you were thinking of
C'mon bro. You're parroting the models BS? The person who brought that to light later admitted that he fabricated all of it because he didn't like how PalWorld portrayed the treatment of animals.
Question though, is Anubis based off of Lucario or is Lucario based off of Anubis the Egyptian god?
Obviously Anubis was based off of Lucario who was based of the superior mon....Renamon from Digimon. /s
@@kiljadaenno anubis is based of anubis not lucario bruh
@@kiljadaenit's literally name anubis it's just cartoony anubis
@@Cracker_Smacker Tried to be sarcastic, apparently that did not work.
Just to let anyone know that the person that posted the meshes being similar has been outed for faking/forging the evidence
And the reason for it was because palworld was promoting animal cruelty
The real issue us that there are just so many Pokémon of every different animal and such, it hard to not have similarities.
Oh snap is that Fools Blade in the background?
Circle I absolutely love you stuff, BUT DUDE, comparing Digtoise to Blastoise? Inciniram to Inciniroar? EIKTHYRDEER TO XERNIUS??? I'm sorry man, but some of these claims are Reaching beyond the stratosphere.
Hangyus design was in palword before the guy accusing it did his design.
I almost disliked this video over Anubis. If anything, Lucario is Anubis because Anubis is ancient Egyptian myth.
I think its more that the anubis design and brawler fighting style is really similar to lucarios. The ancient egyptian god design should in my opinion have a sharper nose shape and could also be seen using a crook(?) or similar implements to differentiate fighting style. Maybe also give it a more prominent mane/plume.
8:23 That person fabricated the evidence by editing the models to look similar. They didn’t like how Palworld was promoting animal cruelty… when they themselves are a pokémon fan.
Which pokemon is just a Rooster fight pit game for kids.
24:34 Pokémon doesn't own the concept of tridents which is where that head decal comes from. Those weapons have been conceptualised since ancient times.
The whole 3d model comparison thing was priven false and the original accuser and poster of which has admitted to doing such. Aside from that this was a fun tierlist.
that 3d model comparison was "proven" false by them saying they had to adjust the proportions slightly and the wireframe was different. And the xbox and pc cult who never touched even playdo in their lives think that's remotely time consuming.
I even saw a smear campaign that said Mario and Sonic fit together to say its silly, and... Sonic's way bigger?
17:50
Mewtwo is stretching, and Echo is the Space Robot Girl aesthetic that been around for a little while now. I think it started with EVE from WALL•E.
19:10 Huh, it's almost as if the names of Blastoise and Digtoise come from THE SAME WORD. TORTOISE.
24:45 EMPOLEON DOES NOT OWN TRIDENTS. TAKE IT UP WITH POSEIDON OR SATAN OR SOMETHING.
26:25 There's based on the same mythological creature, but it definitely could of had a different color scheme.
27:52 OH MY GOD, ANUBIS AND LUCARIO DON'T LOOK ALIKE AT ALL. What do you mean evolve from Mau? ANCIENT EGYPT HAD CATS *AND* DOGS.
30:15 Palkia and Dialga? What are you taking about. PALADIUS AND NECROMUS ARE CENTAURS IN ARMOR!
30:52 "His feets" ... I... Are you high? 😵💫 No, seriously, my freaking brain broke for a few seconds.
And literally none of the Fakemon Copying accusations work - first two came out in traielrs before the fakemon were made. I've got no idea where the third one vomes from, but it's just the same idea as Delphox. And you just put Katress there to be funny, dude.
the words "legally distinct" pulls a lot of weight in this game.
How so?
Because inspired by and infringing on are two totally different things. Lets be frank- palworld is 1000% basing their designs off pokemon. But legally they are distinct enough to not get sued into 2030 @chaosXP3RT
@@krissmith9814I’ll argue that Palworld is more likely based itself on the inspirations that Pokémon themselves took, like Dragon Quest, but yes it’s kinda hard not being inspired by the biggest monster capturing game in the market lol
Thankfully Nintendo has already shown...
They know about the game, but there is nothing they can do to stop it.
No direct asset rips or design stealing.
Sure the inspiration is there, but it's no different from what Pokemon took from Dragon Quest.
And the next pokemon game will still be shit because fans will still buy it palworld did nothing to pokemon because pokemon were made to sell the console, card and collectible
I'll defend palworld purely on the subject of every element plus animal is gonna look similar. Pokemon has 900+ and so many fall into the same traps and dullness, like most every fish pokemon is kinda bad and uninspired.
Thought experiment for those unconvinced, you want an ice pokemon. What colours do you use? Blue, white and maybe black, can go brown if furry.
Maybe i'll use red to respresent the blood of its enemies becoming frozen to its body?
You'd be hard pressed to find a monster design from TemTem or Cassette Beasts that looks anything like Pokemon. Not to mention, ya know, _Digimon_
Jynx, sneasel, delibird, smoochum, snow cast form, snorunt, weavile,and frost rotom.
If some of these weren't bad enough, there's actually a unused Pal that was found in the data of the game that is quite literally a dark Mega Mewtwo Y
Which how so many of these pals are designed you’re not convincing me that AI wasn’t involved in the creative process. A lot of them are just Homunculus of established Pokémon.
@@Broomer52 The lead dev was tweeting about those early AI Pokemon generators back in 2021, right around when PalWorld started development, saying that the AI Pokemon looked like real Pokemon (which is funny cause image AI back in 2021 was awful lol). It's not concrete proof but it is a little suspect. They could've used the tool, picked a few outputs that were interesting, and refined them into a final design. That one water type Pal that has Ponyta's head and a generic seal body is the one that makes me think that the most.
@charliemacsart that tweet wasn't about pokemon anything it was talking about the game they made using AI and how much fun they were having. You spread more misinformation than the onion.
@@ralcogaming7674 the tweet where he posted a picture of AI generated Pokémon next to real Pokémon and compared the two wasn’t about Pokémon? The tweet is from 2021, long before their AI Art Imposter game. You clearly don’t know what tweet I’m referring to and unfortunately UA-cam doesn’t like links so you’ll have to look it up.
@@charliemacsart I haven't seen that one no, regardless the use of AI has to be disclosed on steam furthermore did they use AI or did they steal designs both can't be true.
idk i dont really see aggron in warsect personally
Pokémon shouldn't have a monopoly on an art style, to be honest, there are indeed some of the pals that are too close to their pokemon counterparts. But I'm glad they put Anubis in
I wouldve put celray a rank above cuz the only similarity between it and Mantine is that there both mantarays even tho Celaray could be a stingray I feel. They got completely different faces and also different patterns. The colors are pretty similar but still pretty different enough overall in my eyes.
Given your reaction to Orzerk I'm guessing you also wouldn't recognize the piano theme of a very specific league champion
Exactly, orserk is definitely the garchomp of palworld. Not as scary since electric types get pretty bad moves in palworld but still.
Shamin, phanpy, gogoat, scrafty, salamance, grotle, there are more with a couple that just look like mixes of Pokémon but these were the main ones I saw (as someone who hasn’t played palworld) that were ranked higher than I thought they should be.
Yes I put the pokemons name because I don’t know the pal names lol.
Anyways feed the algorithm more lethal company and comics funny art man! (Also I’ve never mentioned it but I genuinely love your long form videos. Like when you talked about the amount of time videogames take. Keep up the good work boss man!)
Yesssss, feed the flames of chaos!
Honestly, if all of these were introduced as Digimon, people would hardly complain. Anything above Barely OK would just be a Digimon.
They don't really look like digimon, digimon tends to have longer limbs or big feet and a some sort of scar or missing parts
saw this in my recommended feed after following the main channel for years. It's so weird seeing circletoons' face IRL
I think it’s funny when Pokemon stans forget that animals exist in real life. Like they’re based off the same thing there’s only so many ways you can make a sheep look unique while still a sheep.
I love how Palworld dares to make pals that don’t really look like anything immediately. Like Rooby, it’s a Rooby, not specifically an animal.
Eikthyrdeer is clearly inspired by Ancestor Spirit.
Deer god
Anubis and katress looks very different compared to the pokemon they supposedly ripped off of. Its like wooloo and lamball case, it came from the same idea but they put their spin on it that it looks different enough.
oh god, ive never seen what circletoons looked like irl so the intro jumpscared me.
sparkit could be a converge form of pikachu, like depends on location of the pokemon if it happens to reside in-game
Honestly pretty good list, most fair and least slanderous I’ve seen out of the youtuber lists for Palworld CircleToons!
Could nitpick a lot of the choices since some are far leaps, but otherwise a fun list to see you go through!
As a game dev myself
I really do not care about how inspired the designs are. I don't get why people are making such a big deal of it. See a good design, put your own spin on it, that's how 90% of things are made. I love Braixen, I love Wixen. I love Goodra, I love Dinossom. People trying to go all detective mode with the models and stuff have gotta chill. Game is fun, enjoy it for what it is.
People care because copyright laws exist. I myself don't think The Pokemon Company will file any lawsuit against Pocketpair for the designs they have right now, but some of them do get dangerously close to dragging them into Nintendo's C&D shredder.
@@christiancinnabars1402 People need to stop doing Nintendo/Pokemon's job for them I think. What people have been doing is equivalent to the kid in school who'd snitch on you for the simplest things. People need to chill, enjoy a game for what it is, and let companies deal with stuff like this themselves. Pokemon doesn't need you to point out any similarities for them.
@@lightmaker5648 You gotta remember though, Pokemon is an entire personality to some. So Palworld, given it's success, can be seen as an attack to their character. Especially when the Pal designs are legit better that their pkmn counter part. I'd choose Verdash over Cinderace.
@@D3adCl0wn True. I grew up playing pokemon myself, Gen 3 was my first gen. I love the games but I'm not gonna go feral on any other game that 'encroaches on pokemon's territory' or whatever. Game is fun, enjoy it. Least we got people like you who aren't going mental over it.
8:31 nope there was another wolf thing and it’s not even in the game. It was in the trailer.
Did this man say Chillet was an ice SALAMANDER?! Your Honor this man has clearly never played Palworld or Pokemon therefore I rule we throw this whole list out!
And how he thinks Hoocrates is original, meanwhile Murkrow over here being like "WTF!"
Kiljadaen stop shit posting, you're dead. And I don't think Hoocrates looks anything like Murkrow, even with their images side by side.
Hoocrates looks way more like Coo from Kirby than it does to Murkrow
@@clarehidalgoEh..maybe in body shape but its a dark colored bird with a hat makes me think way more of Murkrow.
@@kiljadaen Thinking on it more, reminds me of the owl in Potionomics than Murkrow
12:18 thats a whiscash with a sobble fin and a different color scheme and a little bit of a weezing vibe
11:42 general head and body shape + the face immediately made me think of emolga
Funnily, I find Orserk (As you put it "30 ideas" and "So not like a Pokemon") to be the most brilliant pokemon riff they did. That's an inverted Garchomp. It's an electric Orca instead of a land shark, but it has Garchomps stance and overall body shape. It's the best design because they did such a good job people miss that it's *just Reverse World Garchomp.* Its so elegant in how it completely fooled everyone.
Also Felbat is just Darkrai but gorl. Shadowbeak is Sivally but Griffin.
Also i believe the streak on it's body kind look like a wrestler
Rooby is most likely a fusion between a deer and a fox. And I'm not so sure about the fox. But those are hooves, 100%.
Edit: You came so close, then you had to put Katress in "Cops"-tier. You were already pushing it with Lunaris.
My only thing with people saying it was stolen by the fakemon community or looks like they stile it from Pokemon is.
There are a lot of people that have similar ideas and can come up with similar final designs even though there are some that are obviously they changed like one thing with it.
Perfect example being any random plant human like creature is one of the 5 pokemon made. Idk I just feel like automatically accusing is understandable to be defensive but sometimes you gotta realize there are some similar ideas that happen on accident.
6:32 is that HGSS gym battle music
Controversial opinion: Cremis is cuter than Eevee
I think it's fair enough to make the argument for some Pokémon lookalikes that it is literally a turtle, dog, etc. I agree with the majority of your picks though lol.
Considering Fakemon are fanarts of fake Pokemon, I argue the Wixen and Katress in that tier is weak. I cant even find the evidence of that Fakemon when googling them.
I don't plan on playing Palworld, but as someone who finds the designs with pokemon elements funny moreso than aggravating I must say a lot of the original designs are hecking fire! For any of the things it did copy (intentional or not) there was some effort put into developing some of these designs (the original ones anyway)
I think that's what's most disappointing about the Palworld monsters. The original ones are interesting and new concepts. But instead we get "my OC, do not steal" for some of the Pals.
@@crowqueenamps Honestly there’s a few of the “copied” designs that to me are better than their counterparts, I like Fenglope than Cobalion for example, the latter simply does nothing for me with his weird ass feet… Fenglope looks more mythical
@@bonelesschickennuggets1868
That's fair! I mean, I loved some of the designs myself. But as others mentioned, other monster collector games have made notable designs without rifting off of Pokemon.
@@crowqueenamps Yeah, I can actually get behind your sentiment, I myself LOVED most of the stag and big bird pals and THOSE should be the design that they need to follow, if they want to continue making more Pokémon lookalikes, I’m not complaining but it would be nice if they managed to find their own artistic direction and follow it through, because they COOKED with their birds bro they COOKED
I'd personally put Shadowbeak in the UHHHH tier at the very least, looking at it you can not only see that it has Arceus's waist thing, but it also has the same head crest body shape and even Frankensteinian backstory of Type Null and Silvally
I mad respect you having the pengullet on your team, personally I prefer my exploding pal on my team to be jolthog, but game recognizes game.
3:46 best reaction. 🐧 😂
I got a palworld ad :)
It would be funny to do a video like this but mix in a lot of later gen Pokémon and not reveal it until the end.