Actually Erickson's RB flip-flop usage is ideal for fantasy because instead of weekly RBBC guessing game you know who the bell-cow will be every week after Week 1. This week Player A, next week Player B; and back-and-forth. Easy peasy.
So they got rid of Mixon (when they didn’t necessarily need to) and signed Moss to make Brown the starter? Moss was one of the most effective backs out of shotgun, and the Bengals run a lot of shotgun. Not to mention we saw one take on a real NFL workload, and be quite efficient, on a worse offense. Which was more likely.. Tyjae to be a lead back or Brown to be a lead back? And we saw how that played out with the Pollard addition. Moss is definitely the guy
Imma be honest, you guys need to stop mentioning Tony Pollard. The reason he played bad was because he had a deltoid ligament injury. Please do your research on this type of injury and you will understand why he fell off. Another person who had this injury was Michael Thomas. It is worse than an Achilles tear as it is much more rare to happen
@@thekey1682 it’s not an excuse it’s a legit concern. He’s never going to not be trash anymore because that’s how serious the deltoid ligament injury is. You can never come back from it, and will never return to form
Pollard was awful last year, I know as I have him on two dynasty teams he is not an rb1. Remember that awful attempt to get over the goalline vs Miami. 🤮
As a Bengals fan, I'm worried both Rb's could end up injured by the end of the season. I think Chase Brown has an edge to earn passing down work but it seems like they have Trevion ready to step in if Brown struggles with blitz pick up. I think Moss & Brown are priced about right Moss Rb2-3 & Brown Rb3-4 area for my squad. They both have upside if I had Moss Rb2 & Brown Rb3 that sounds pretty solid.
One thing these podcasters overlooked was how The Buffalo Bills utilized their running backs and were a nightmare doing so. They got rid of Devin Singletary and he was a stud. They got rid of Zach Moss and he was solid when they used him too. Moss is very talented just was never really given a chance. Now he has one. He ripped it last year. Not rooting against Chase but Moss is a vet and has better vision.
Agree. Singletary will always get you 1000 yds combined yds from scrimmage and Moss went on a tear last year. I loved watching him shred Tennessee’s stout run D.
Agreed 1000%, but you left out Buffalo and how they have/are utilizing James Cook. We can't figure out what's going on in Buffalo because the Bills don't know what's going onin Buffalo.
4:21 I guarantee you if moss was on the bengals last year he would’ve earned touches because he’s great on runs from the shotgun and the bengals run a lot of their offense from the gun. Mixon was terrible running out of shot gun formation
You mention pollard and his efficiency not translating. And then bring up his mirror image in Warren. It’s weird people keep bringing up effeciency for the 3rd down RB as the big reason he’s better than Najee. When thats a benefit that comes with being the 3rd down RB. What I want is good after contact metrics and I don’t think he wins that vs Najee
Moss is a better blocker. Brown is in his second year. Has the burst and can catch. Look at the end of season that kid is tough boy . Just my humble opinion.
Chase brown is this years backup rb that will remain a backup 😂 y’all fools take those guys and it takes 4 years for you to admit dude is just not good. It’s all hype on projection
Moss will take the bulk. Hes the better pass protector. Brown is the 3rd down pass back and juice back. he at most will have 150 carries and 200 touches. but likely more like 100 carries 150 touches. Moss will get 250 touches. Neither will be more then a decent flex unless an injury happens. I did pick Moss late for the total touches
Joe Mixon has earned one of the highest percentages in team rush attempts inside the opponent's 5-yard line. Despite being inefficient, it has afforded him the luxury of finishing as an RB1 every year Zach Taylor has been head coach. Either Moss or Brown would be an incredible value at cost.
@@joeharriger4301I would also like an answer to this. Did you just say you drafted Joe Burrow in the 2nd round? You were toast before the season started my man.
@@joeharriger4301 nope. He meant it. My family 10 man league has four uncles who take up all the top QB’s with their respective first and second picks. Reach Syndrome is a real thing.
If Chase Brown was the guy, they wouldn’t have brought in Moss. Moss is superior in pass blocking and running in between the tackles/being able to make the tough runs. He’s a decent pass catcher as well. Brown is a solid 3rd down, pass catching back.
@@CA_I It very well could be a RBBC (65/35 or something like that) - like a lot of NFL teams are doing. However, one thing I learned from playing fantasy over the years is that you always want a piece of a top flight/high scoring offense. I’m OK with Moss as a low end RB2 and certainly at FLEX.
Jaylen Warren: I have shares of him and none of Harris, but you're forgetting Tomlin's man crush for Harris. You seem to be emphasizing Arthur Smith completely over Mike Tomlin.
@@michaelmcdermed700 it’s hard to say for certain the titans oc has made his living as a passing game coach so I’m not sure about his run game style, but, the team has the best offensive line coach in the league so it’s possible they realize that pollard does his best work in space aka outside runs
Jaylen Warren has a habit of fumbling the ball. And I don't think he can take the punishment, especially in the late season when he gets cold. That's why harris is better
Chase brown is terrible lol Moss clears him easily. He runs best out of shotgun which is what the Bengals will be doing. Chase Brown’s advance metrics are 💩 Have fun drafting Brown. You will regret it. Can’t believe you guys are saying he has RB1 upside 😂🤦♂️
Hitching your wagon to Moss is fools gold in so many ways. You're not paying attention to his entire body of work. In dynasty, Brown is the preferred option and may be in redraft as well.
Jaylen Warren will never be the lead back on any team in the NFL. Warren is what he is, and that's it. Im so sick of hearing all of you say Warren should be and could be the lead back. Najee is losing weight and will be a contender for the rushing title this year.
They didn't pickup Harris' 5th year option, so 2025 could be Warren's year if they don't resign Harris. I still expect it to be an even split in 2024, capping the value of both.
@@charliec5449, even if Najee moves on after the season the Steelers will draft another RB to take his place. Warren is what he is, a 3rd down change of pace back. There is nothing wrong with that either. Warren will never be the lead back for the Steelers.
@@slayerstacker2074 I don't disagree, but I would like to see Warren get that chance to be the lead back. I'm not going to pretend I can read the mind of the Steelers GM on draft day and they may very well draft Henderson or Judkins, but Warren may just be good and you're not giving that a possibility. He sure looked good last year.
@@charliec5449 he isn't big enough to handle a lead back workload. He will never make it the entire season running between the tackles. The punishment he would endure would break him down. That's why Warren and Najee work so good together in my opinion. Najee is a pound it type RB between the tackles. Don't be shocked if Najee is top 5 in rushing yards this season. If he gets back to his weight in Alabama, look out. The NFL is gonna see a Najee they have never seen before.
Actually Erickson's RB flip-flop usage is ideal for fantasy because instead of weekly RBBC guessing game you know who the bell-cow will be every week after Week 1. This week Player A, next week Player B; and back-and-forth. Easy peasy.
Cincy and Pittsburgh will be great backfields to follow all offseason
So they got rid of Mixon (when they didn’t necessarily need to) and signed Moss to make Brown the starter? Moss was one of the most effective backs out of shotgun, and the Bengals run a lot of shotgun. Not to mention we saw one take on a real NFL workload, and be quite efficient, on a worse offense. Which was more likely.. Tyjae to be a lead back or Brown to be a lead back? And we saw how that played out with the Pollard addition. Moss is definitely the guy
These dudes don’t actually know ball lol. They just look at stats and highlights
I'm pretty sure Moss was the most efficient RB in the league last year, or at least one of the top ones
Imma be honest, you guys need to stop mentioning Tony Pollard. The reason he played bad was because he had a deltoid ligament injury. Please do your research on this type of injury and you will understand why he fell off. Another person who had this injury was Michael Thomas. It is worse than an Achilles tear as it is much more rare to happen
Don't make excuses for pollard...he was TRASH....end of story 😂
@@thekey1682 it’s not an excuse it’s a legit concern. He’s never going to not be trash anymore because that’s how serious the deltoid ligament injury is. You can never come back from it, and will never return to form
So the injury made him trash 🤷♂️
Pollard was awful last year, I know as I have him on two dynasty teams he is not an rb1. Remember that awful attempt to get over the goalline vs Miami. 🤮
@@trill2557 yes
Zack moss lit it up last year, good sleeper that people may pass on
Pass for sure
Thank you Guys
As a Bengals fan, I'm worried both Rb's could end up injured by the end of the season. I think Chase Brown has an edge to earn passing down work but it seems like they have Trevion ready to step in if Brown struggles with blitz pick up. I think Moss & Brown are priced about right Moss Rb2-3 & Brown Rb3-4 area for my squad. They both have upside if I had Moss Rb2 & Brown Rb3 that sounds pretty solid.
One thing these podcasters overlooked was how The Buffalo Bills utilized their running backs and were a nightmare doing so. They got rid of Devin Singletary and he was a stud. They got rid of Zach Moss and he was solid when they used him too. Moss is very talented just was never really given a chance. Now he has one. He ripped it last year. Not rooting against Chase but Moss is a vet and has better vision.
Agree. Singletary will always get you 1000 yds combined yds from scrimmage and Moss went on a tear last year. I loved watching him shred Tennessee’s stout run D.
Agreed 1000%, but you left out Buffalo and how they have/are utilizing James Cook. We can't figure out what's going on in Buffalo because the Bills don't know what's going onin Buffalo.
Injuries kept Moss off the field also even the start of last yr
4:21 I guarantee you if moss was on the bengals last year he would’ve earned touches because he’s great on runs from the shotgun and the bengals run a lot of their offense from the gun. Mixon was terrible running out of shot gun formation
Idk. Arthur Smith played Allgier over Bijan many times because he wanted a tough runner over the playmaker. I see Najee getting 60%+
I can't see Brown actually RUNNING. Historically 3rd down backs have better efficiency due to defenses playing back. He Def needs to work on that YPC
It's different if you play two or three good games, or if you play half a season consistently high.
Exactly
You mention pollard and his efficiency not translating. And then bring up his mirror image in Warren. It’s weird people keep bringing up effeciency for the 3rd down RB as the big reason he’s better than Najee. When thats a benefit that comes with being the 3rd down RB. What I want is good after contact metrics and I don’t think he wins that vs Najee
Moss is such a good pass protector. Im surprised no one is mentioning this.
Moss is a better blocker. Brown is in his second year. Has the burst and can catch. Look at the end of season that kid is tough boy . Just my humble opinion.
Brown for Bengals? How’s the offensive line doing? I hope they are good!
Guys that gained a job with an injury. Tom Brady it doesn't matter how you gain the opportunity for the job it's what you do with it
Zach Moss is this years Alexander Mattison.
In a good or bad way? Haha
@@marcusforrealius Aint no good way to spin Mattison's performance last season
@@5DollarHoller Had to see if maybe he was talking about when he was backing up Dalvin haha
I disagree, some people were drafting Mattison as there low end rb1 or rb2. Nobody is drafting moss in the 4th or 5th round
Chase brown is this years backup rb that will remain a backup 😂 y’all fools take those guys and it takes 4 years for you to admit dude is just not good. It’s all hype on projection
Mostert had 1,000 yards rushing and 15 TDs last year.
Moss will take the bulk. Hes the better pass protector. Brown is the 3rd down pass back and juice back. he at most will have 150 carries and 200 touches. but likely more like 100 carries 150 touches. Moss will get 250 touches. Neither will be more then a decent flex unless an injury happens. I did pick Moss late for the total touches
Joe Mixon has earned one of the highest percentages in team rush attempts inside the opponent's 5-yard line.
Despite being inefficient, it has afforded him the luxury of finishing as an RB1 every year Zach Taylor has been head coach.
Either Moss or Brown would be an incredible value at cost.
Keep in mind Najee lost weight and in a contract year, preseason battle will be key!
Moss is the new Mixon, Chase Brown is still Chase Brown.
Moss and Brown will both have roles.
what a take
I drafted Pollard in round 1 and it killed me last year. Round 2 was Burrow, who got injured, so I was toast.
Burrow in round 2?
@@joeharriger4301I would also like an answer to this. Did you just say you drafted Joe Burrow in the 2nd round? You were toast before the season started my man.
Maybe he meant to say in the 9th round with pick 2 😂
@@joeharriger4301 nope. He meant it. My family 10 man league has four uncles who take up all the top QB’s with their respective first and second picks. Reach Syndrome is a real thing.
You wasted a lot of air time on pittsburgh. No clear cut ANYBODY and Arthur Smith at OC. Ouch.
Pollard wasnt 100% last year.... maybe 80% at best. Spears is still missing a knee ligament. Pollard could be a massive steal.
If Chase Brown was the guy, they wouldn’t have brought in Moss. Moss is superior in pass blocking and running in between the tackles/being able to make the tough runs. He’s a decent pass catcher as well.
Brown is a solid 3rd down, pass catching back.
Of course he isn't, anyone can see that but they've decided to claim Brown is rb1. I'm not sure I like the Bengals backfield at all.
@@CA_I It very well could be a RBBC (65/35 or something like that) - like a lot of NFL teams are doing.
However, one thing I learned from playing fantasy over the years is that you always want a piece of a top flight/high scoring offense. I’m OK with Moss as a low end RB2 and certainly at FLEX.
Jaylen Warren: I have shares of him and none of Harris, but you're forgetting Tomlin's man crush for Harris. You seem to be emphasizing Arthur Smith completely over Mike Tomlin.
The cowboys tried to turn pollard into a power runner, so many hb dive calls where he slammed into the back of his offensive line for 1 yard
And the Titans are going to use him the same way with Spears the 3rd down RB.
@@michaelmcdermed700 it’s hard to say for certain the titans oc has made his living as a passing game coach so I’m not sure about his run game style, but, the team has the best offensive line coach in the league so it’s possible they realize that pollard does his best work in space aka outside runs
Chase Brown is just 2023 Zach Charbonnet
You spelt Blake Corum wrong
@@ryanalex106 ok fine, Chase Brown is just 2024 Blake Corum
Just engaging to bump the algorithm. Hoping my league mates pass on Moss.
House of mirrors, LOL, Pat is the best!
Wont touch any rb on an Arthur Smith ryn offense
People about to learn the hard way. Smith also absolutely hates fantasy lol.
Who's going to be mvp this year?
Ronald Jones
Chip Shippley
Taysom Hill
Kadarius Toney
Brock Osweiler
Unlike Spears, at least Pollard still has both his ACLs. Having said that, I won't have any Tony Pollard shares.
Zack moss will be the guy unless he blows it, but I doubt it.
warren > najeee all the najee owners are crying
Jaylen Warren has a habit of fumbling the ball. And I don't think he can take the punishment, especially in the late season when he gets cold. That's why harris is better
who is this Arthur Smith .the way you guys are talking he sounds like Atilla the Hun.
LMFAOOOO
Brown Job
Chase brown can’t run between the tackles like zack moss. He’s a 3rd down back. Zack moss will be the starter. Chase brown is a screen guy.
Have u seen his college highlights? 27 carries per game too
He definitely could run and break tackles he did it in college chase brown will take over soon enough
Brown will be the lead back sooner than later, guaranteed.
He also doesn’t excel in pass blocking.
What are you talking about? LOL
Pat. gif. Please. You're better than that.
Came back to enjoy how wrong all these anti-Chase Brown replies are 😂😂😂
😂😂
Chase brown is terrible lol
Moss clears him easily. He runs best out of shotgun which is what the Bengals will be doing. Chase Brown’s advance metrics are 💩
Have fun drafting Brown. You will regret it. Can’t believe you guys are saying he has RB1 upside 😂🤦♂️
Hitching your wagon to Moss is fools gold in so many ways. You're not paying attention to his entire body of work. In dynasty, Brown is the preferred option and may be in redraft as well.
Jaylen Warren will never be the lead back on any team in the NFL. Warren is what he is, and that's it. Im so sick of hearing all of you say Warren should be and could be the lead back. Najee is losing weight and will be a contender for the rushing title this year.
They didn't pickup Harris' 5th year option, so 2025 could be Warren's year if they don't resign Harris. I still expect it to be an even split in 2024, capping the value of both.
@@charliec5449, even if Najee moves on after the season the Steelers will draft another RB to take his place. Warren is what he is, a 3rd down change of pace back. There is nothing wrong with that either. Warren will never be the lead back for the Steelers.
@@slayerstacker2074 I don't disagree, but I would like to see Warren get that chance to be the lead back. I'm not going to pretend I can read the mind of the Steelers GM on draft day and they may very well draft Henderson or Judkins, but Warren may just be good and you're not giving that a possibility. He sure looked good last year.
@@charliec5449 he isn't big enough to handle a lead back workload. He will never make it the entire season running between the tackles. The punishment he would endure would break him down. That's why Warren and Najee work so good together in my opinion. Najee is a pound it type RB between the tackles. Don't be shocked if Najee is top 5 in rushing yards this season. If he gets back to his weight in Alabama, look out. The NFL is gonna see a Najee they have never seen before.
Pollard is 6th tier RB
Erickson's takes suck so bad. Pollard? Dont see it
I see you guys make the same bull💩 calls as last year