I had a stylist pissed every time she had to detangle my natural new growth (an inch or more sometimes) when I had permed hair. Water isn't the enemy. Intentional ignorance is.
Most stylists were not trained to style textured hair in its natural state, unfortunately. Those of us who attend “UA-cam University” know faaarrrr more about caring for and styling our natural hair than the typical stylist. Stylists only learn to do natural hair when they seek out that knowledge of their own accord. It’s not a licensing requirement. So, this is what we get. I have been natural since 2015, and I have only been to a stylist TWICE since that time because I broke my collarbone and I needed a couple of protective styles while I healed. It’s sad. Things truly need to change.
I love that many are trying now…I’m still baffled that they don’t have a module about natural hairstyles in 2022. They’re missing a HUGE market. Then again, black people tend to have to learn about our own on our own. History class taught me that.
I HATE when any stylist says b4 you come make sure you're washed, conditioned etc... This notion is likened to going to the barbershop and the barber tells you to b4 you come, make sure you have a crispy hairline. WTH...you're the professional. I'm paying you for a service, so SERVICE ME. 🤦🏾♂️
Noooo. He doesn't know what he's doing! He's out here spreading hate against 4c hair. With his misinformation about something so basic as water, it's no wonder his clients' hair is messed up and they hate their hair. That's sad. :(
I probably wouldn't call it spreading hate, but definitely misinformation. Thing is, more hair stylist are trained to give clients the opposite of what they have. Majority of black women don't go to the salon for a style in their natural state, so many don't get enough practice. Idk girl...I'm trying to give him some space for grace lol!
Glad I have had positive experiences with braiders. The previous one I went to was at an African braid shop and I had to come with my hair washed/conditioned/blow dried and had reasonable prices. My current person is a cosmetologist and will wash/condition/blow dry your hair for no additional cost, her prices are very reasonable and she's fast! You can make appointments by calling her salon or via DM. She's so nice and is good with natural and relaxed hairstyling too. She's a keeper!
I had the same stylist for over 20 years when I was relaxed. She sometimes would make playful comments about how thick my hair is, but never in a negative or offensive way. It never bothered/offended me or negatively impacted my view of my hair. I know my hair is thick and can be challenging to manage. I understand that even more now that I am natural and do my hair myself!!
I'm in the same situation as you. Had the same stylist for about 10 years. 8yrs relaxed. She playful tells me when am I going to let her silk press it. I'm like neeeeeeeever 😁🤣. But other than that she is respectful and gentle with my type 4 natural hair and does a a great job.
My scalp just cringed and ran away from the audible ripping sounds. Was that shampoo they were detangling with 🤦🏾♀️☠️☠️☠️ there was no slip, just suds. Whoever detangled in one giant clump like that? No ma'am! 👉🏾Away with you
It was SO hard to watch. That poor lady...I honestly couldn't imagine. I've definitely been in a salon chair and was afraid to speak up. Thankfully those days are over!😅
Wow...the misinformation is real🤦🏽♀️ How is that guy a stylist without knowing that water is necessary for hydration 🤔 If someone was ripping through my hair like that last video, they would have to stop IMMEDIATELY and try another approach or we might be in an altercation...😒
Water is only your enemy when you've straightened your hair. I've prepooed with conditioner. It can lead to hygralfatigue. Highly suggest using oil or an product instead, unless you've just done a protein treatment
I get hygralfatigue all the time 😫. It is not fun!!!! Makes your hair all limp and ugly looking. I got to figure out why my hair is so moisture sensitive!!!
@@apara2005 Have you considered incorporating keratin and non-treatment proteins into your regular hair routine? That's what I have to do. I love to use very moisturizing products, especially good deep conditioners, but I feel like that's made me have to increase my protein to balance it all out. I use the Texture ID Deep Treatment Masque which sounds more official than it is. Works well for me. I also recommend watching Curly Chemistry and Afope Atoyebi because their videos are very helpful for learning about the science behind your hair and the products you use. They go in-depth on what certain ingredients will do for you.
Except for a 9mo period, I've been natural all my life. I don't consider my hair difficult to care for, and if I don't feel it's a problem I can't see why a stylist who has been trained to care for hair should consider it to be difficult to care for. None of these things gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling about going to a stylist. I'll continue to care for my hair myself. I would get up and walk away no doubt about it, but I think the sign to get up and walk away most likely happen before it got to this point.
😱😱😱OMG that last video… I heard my soul being ripped apart!!! 😳😳😳 Why are U trying to detangle my hair with SHAMPOO?!?!? WHERE IS THE CONDITIONER?!? Yes I would of walked out… this is probably one of the reasons why I don’t trust stylist… they see us as just 💴 💰. Some don’t care abt your hair specially the way I care about my hair!!!
I watched that series My Mane Problem and I hated it! I thought it was going to be a positive outlook on natural hair and it was not. Most ended up with relaxers and the couple natural styles he did the approach was not impressive
In Trinidad jumbo knotless is proberly 300 to 400 TT which is about $42.82 - $57 US getting braids and weave is reletively cheap down here unless of course you go to a salon. Other than that you go to their home or they come come by you, you buy the hair before so you have it already and get your hair styled.
For somebody that's just trying to become natural. Could be very confusing and possibly damage their hair. You are suppose to be trying to help. Hes suppose to be an influencer! He needs education! One Love 💕
Water is a life savior, bestest friend!!! Your wash day can go from lasting forever to a decent amount of time just because of the way you wet it while washing. Gimme that water!!!😂😂 Girl, wait!!! That shampoo part... I would walk out with the shampoo and everything.
I used to have a complex about my hair (natural most of my life.) it wasn't until my 20s that I learned to love it. Cuz I had such negative reactions even the well meaning jokes made me hate my hair more. It wasn't until I found an amazing stylist that made a point to tell me how beautiful my hair was all the time that I started to like my hair.
Water is my ‘fren’ when it comes to my hair. As for that detangling video at the end. Just watching that made my scalp hurt. And the sound the hair made when the stylist ripped to detangling. No sir! I agree with you, I’ll just detangle my hair myself. Then I’ll pay myself for doing my hair. 🤷🏾♀️Just saying!
Personal care chemist here 🙋🏾♀️. Actually plain ole water that comes out of your Faucet doesn't hydrate your hair....it only makes our hair heavy, stretching our coils making our hair a bit more manageable. The helpful water comes from our products...which acts as a vehicle for water disperse/dissolving humectants (which is what is actually conditioning/hydrating your hair). So it's not the water, it's what the water is holding.
I can completely see what you’re talking about. Thank you for sharing your expertise. I think it’s more about him saying water is 4c hair’s worst enemy…I think that statement is misleading, no? I’m not a chemist or a hair stylist, but water has been my best friend 😌 btw, you always leave sweet comments. Thank you for sharing!
@@LaToyaEbonyHair hi 👋🏾!!! Me personally, don't agree with anything he said. I need water and tons of it. If my hair isnt weighed down with water and product, detangling will be a nightmare. Now I'm not a stylist, and I know technique plays a big part in hair care as well as science. I don't have 4C hair. I'll admit that that. But My friend with 4C hair told me she does avoid water because it does cause shrinkage then breakage (I hear a few 4c youtubers say the same). For my 4a hair, water just elongated it. It only shrinks after all the water evaporates. So some people may agree with his technique? P.S - thank you for the saying I leave nice comments🙂. Thank you for the great content!!!!!
I have 4c hair and for me, it's the technique you use. I use water a lot and to prevent shrinkage and breakage, I use sections and I twist my hair to keep it elongated. If your friend just let her hair shrink back up, then breakage is inevitable 💁🏿♀️
1. No way I dealing with what's in the last video. And besides, it seems scripted. Why we shampooing away from the bowl? 2. Often I think some of the bad advice is from professionals that honestly think of type 4/afro textured/tightly coiled/etc hair as inherently unruly. That's the root. It's why our hair suddenly has to be way different and reject normal things like water. But fine, I'll grant it is also a poorly spliced clip in this specific case 3. I personally don't do the 1234 abc hairtyping but I think for a lot of stylists they take hair that afros, has tight tight curls and isn't silky as "4c" regardless of how people who curl type might categorise it. I will say also that generally I've seen different definitions about what 4c (well, same w other hair types sometimes) is so I can't blame those a bit removed from the online discussions around typing.
I am beginning to hate more and more 4c being used as a label for our hair. Can we just use curly, coily, tight coils or loose coils, wavy? Please and thank you.
I think I was making the same face you were when she started ripping that hair apart! Before she started ripping, I'd have to ask her why I'm sitting here looking like a troll? That is not part of the process. I'm really hoping that was just staged for views 😬
Seems to me that a lot of people in customer service jobs get upset when they have to do anything they consider to be extra. I miss the days when people cared and took pride in the the services they provide. Then they want to charge ridiculous amounts of money to do subpar work. SMH 🤨
Oh my goodness I know exactly what you mean. Even at some retail stores, it's like pulling teeth to get someone to thoroughly help you. It shows when someone genuinely loves their job or not.
I’m grateful I been going to the same stylist for the majority of my life & she actually stopped me from relaxing in 2010. But I be dammed if I hear & feel you ripping my hair like that… you don’t detangle when washing anyway. 😩😩 Another benefit of my stylist… she does everything. I personally think you don’t know what you doing if all you can do is braid. I would want to be in control of the prep of the hair before styling. My goodness this video… 😔
Sis.. 11:30 (A) you already are a celebrity, and (B) when you become a bigger celebrity you STILL ain't wanna pay that (for jumbo-knotless 🧐 pleeeease PLUS come w your own hair to save coin) !!?? No one's trying to be cheap but don't try and play me for you being lazy like you said: ..."Well (pause) you won't be getting my 4c goodness. NEXT" ✔️ A.: run away. periodt. THIS is not theory; already DONE.
First of all..... how this ninja a hairstylist and he ain't got no hair of his own. I can tell by the misinformation he's spreading he straight perming hair. Clearly he don't care to do natural hair.
I’m not entirely sure. I’ve only spent about 5 minutes on his page and it seems like he doesn’t dislike natural hair…but I’m not sure that styling it in it natural state is his preference…
I cannot use plain water in my hair, or else, it'll be stiff and dry out, and I'm not saying this to defend what he is saying, I am just stating this to say that everyone's hair is different and we do what's best for us. I moisturise using two greases and shea butter and my cream my hair is moisturised for an entire month, sometimes for two weeks at least depending on the state of my hair at the said time and in that time period I only use water with glycerine once. All this to say our hair is different, what I do and what works for me, won't work for others, no hostility intended, just stating.
I had a stylist pissed every time she had to detangle my natural new growth (an inch or more sometimes) when I had permed hair. Water isn't the enemy. Intentional ignorance is.
Whew, that last one hurt ME right through the screen. My Lord
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"WHEN I become a celebrity." That's right!
Most stylists were not trained to style textured hair in its natural state, unfortunately. Those of us who attend “UA-cam University” know faaarrrr more about caring for and styling our natural hair than the typical stylist. Stylists only learn to do natural hair when they seek out that knowledge of their own accord. It’s not a licensing requirement. So, this is what we get. I have been natural since 2015, and I have only been to a stylist TWICE since that time because I broke my collarbone and I needed a couple of protective styles while I healed. It’s sad. Things truly need to change.
I love that many are trying now…I’m still baffled that they don’t have a module about natural hairstyles in 2022. They’re missing a HUGE market. Then again, black people tend to have to learn about our own on our own. History class taught me that.
I HATE when any stylist says b4 you come make sure you're washed, conditioned etc... This notion is likened to going to the barbershop and the barber tells you to b4 you come, make sure you have a crispy hairline. WTH...you're the professional. I'm paying you for a service, so SERVICE ME. 🤦🏾♂️
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If someone detangled my hair by ripping it with shampoo in it I would look at the hairstylist and be like “ who hurt you?” 🤨🧐🤔
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Noooo. He doesn't know what he's doing! He's out here spreading hate against 4c hair. With his misinformation about something so basic as water, it's no wonder his clients' hair is messed up and they hate their hair. That's sad. :(
I probably wouldn't call it spreading hate, but definitely misinformation. Thing is, more hair stylist are trained to give clients the opposite of what they have. Majority of black women don't go to the salon for a style in their natural state, so many don't get enough practice. Idk girl...I'm trying to give him some space for grace lol!
That last video 😳…. I would definitely leave. You can literally hear the hair ripping.
This is why I do my own hair. Ya'll ain't jacking up my hair then CHARGING me for it!!!
This is me all day 😂
Facts
Lord. That dude. No clue. RUN TO THE WATER (not AWAY from it). That was the number one, lifechanging thing I learned about my natural hair.
I agree 100 percent!
Glad I have had positive experiences with braiders. The previous one I went to was at an African braid shop and I had to come with my hair washed/conditioned/blow dried and had reasonable prices. My current person is a cosmetologist and will wash/condition/blow dry your hair for no additional cost, her prices are very reasonable and she's fast! You can make appointments by calling her salon or via DM. She's so nice and is good with natural and relaxed hairstyling too. She's a keeper!
Ppl are something else! If that stylist would have yanked my hair like that I would have went clear off .. thanks LaToya for this video 🥰💙
😂love the dramatics and I would've immediately said stop I don't want my hair ripped!
I had the same stylist for over 20 years when I was relaxed. She sometimes would make playful comments about how thick my hair is, but never in a negative or offensive way. It never bothered/offended me or negatively impacted my view of my hair. I know my hair is thick and can be challenging to manage. I understand that even more now that I am natural and do my hair myself!!
I'm in the same situation as you. Had the same stylist for about 10 years. 8yrs relaxed. She playful tells me when am I going to let her silk press it. I'm like neeeeeeeever 😁🤣. But other than that she is respectful and gentle with my type 4 natural hair and does a a great job.
My scalp just cringed and ran away from the audible ripping sounds. Was that shampoo they were detangling with 🤦🏾♀️☠️☠️☠️ there was no slip, just suds. Whoever detangled in one giant clump like that? No ma'am! 👉🏾Away with you
It was SO hard to watch. That poor lady...I honestly couldn't imagine. I've definitely been in a salon chair and was afraid to speak up. Thankfully those days are over!😅
Wow...the misinformation is real🤦🏽♀️ How is that guy a stylist without knowing that water is necessary for hydration 🤔
If someone was ripping through my hair like that last video, they would have to stop IMMEDIATELY and try another approach or we might be in an altercation...😒
I was screaming when she was snatching her hair apart like that, I would have got up and leave
Giiirrrrll 🏃🏾♀️ 💨
I think pre-covid I'd ask them to be more more gentle (tender headed over here), now i'd get up and walk away. and write a google review.
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That last clip....the stylist pulling the hair hurt my feelings. I felt that! What is the matter with that person! Love your content as always.
Kim…I was hurt too lol
Water is only your enemy when you've straightened your hair.
I've prepooed with conditioner. It can lead to hygralfatigue. Highly suggest using oil or an product instead, unless you've just done a protein treatment
I have never experience hygral fatigue, but it doesn't sound fun. I use plenty of water! I wonder if some people are more prone...
I get hygralfatigue all the time 😫. It is not fun!!!! Makes your hair all limp and ugly looking. I got to figure out why my hair is so moisture sensitive!!!
@@apara2005 Have you considered incorporating keratin and non-treatment proteins into your regular hair routine? That's what I have to do. I love to use very moisturizing products, especially good deep conditioners, but I feel like that's made me have to increase my protein to balance it all out.
I use the Texture ID Deep Treatment Masque which sounds more official than it is. Works well for me.
I also recommend watching Curly Chemistry and Afope Atoyebi because their videos are very helpful for learning about the science behind your hair and the products you use. They go in-depth on what certain ingredients will do for you.
It's an insult, Straight up!One Love 💕
Yessss to when I become a celebrity!!! Claim it. Good video Latoya.
Loving the surge of content!
Mmmmhhhhhmmmm thank you! More to come😊
I had one to tell me washed & blown out with NO PRODUCT!?!? Is that even possible? I str8 up cancelled and went to someone else.
Wait what? I've blown my hair out with no product before and it's not fun. My hair was a dry crispy mess. Good for you for canceling.
Except for a 9mo period, I've been natural all my life. I don't consider my hair difficult to care for, and if I don't feel it's a problem I can't see why a stylist who has been trained to care for hair should consider it to be difficult to care for. None of these things gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling about going to a stylist. I'll continue to care for my hair myself. I would get up and walk away no doubt about it, but I think the sign to get up and walk away most likely happen before it got to this point.
The misinformation is so real💯😩
😱😱😱OMG that last video… I heard my soul being ripped apart!!! 😳😳😳
Why are U trying to detangle my hair with SHAMPOO?!?!? WHERE IS THE CONDITIONER?!?
Yes I would of walked out… this is probably one of the reasons why I don’t trust stylist… they see us as just 💴 💰. Some don’t care abt your hair specially the way I care about my hair!!!
I watched that series My Mane Problem and I hated it! I thought it was going to be a positive outlook on natural hair and it was not. Most ended up with relaxers and the couple natural styles he did the approach was not impressive
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Ms. LaToya, water is my friend as well. I get the best detangling sessions under running water than without.
In Trinidad jumbo knotless is proberly 300 to 400 TT which is about $42.82 - $57 US getting braids and weave is reletively cheap down here unless of course you go to a salon. Other than that you go to their home or they come come by you, you buy the hair before so you have it already and get your hair styled.
For somebody that's just trying to become natural. Could be very confusing and possibly damage their hair. You are suppose to be trying to help. Hes suppose to be an influencer! He needs education! One Love 💕
Water is a life savior, bestest friend!!! Your wash day can go from lasting forever to a decent amount of time just because of the way you wet it while washing. Gimme that water!!!😂😂
Girl, wait!!! That shampoo part... I would walk out with the shampoo and everything.
I used to have a complex about my hair (natural most of my life.) it wasn't until my 20s that I learned to love it. Cuz I had such negative reactions even the well meaning jokes made me hate my hair more. It wasn't until I found an amazing stylist that made a point to tell me how beautiful my hair was all the time that I started to like my hair.
Water is my ‘fren’ when it comes to my hair. As for that detangling video at the end. Just watching that made my scalp hurt. And the sound the hair made when the stylist ripped to detangling. No sir! I agree with you, I’ll just detangle my hair myself. Then I’ll pay myself for doing my hair. 🤷🏾♀️Just saying!
OK if she can’t do type four hair who’s hair is she braiding 😳
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Personal care chemist here 🙋🏾♀️. Actually plain ole water that comes out of your Faucet doesn't hydrate your hair....it only makes our hair heavy, stretching our coils making our hair a bit more manageable. The helpful water comes from our products...which acts as a vehicle for water disperse/dissolving humectants (which is what is actually conditioning/hydrating your hair). So it's not the water, it's what the water is holding.
I can completely see what you’re talking about. Thank you for sharing your expertise. I think it’s more about him saying water is 4c hair’s worst enemy…I think that statement is misleading, no? I’m not a chemist or a hair stylist, but water has been my best friend 😌 btw, you always leave sweet comments. Thank you for sharing!
@@LaToyaEbonyHair hi 👋🏾!!! Me personally, don't agree with anything he said. I need water and tons of it. If my hair isnt weighed down with water and product, detangling will be a nightmare.
Now I'm not a stylist, and I know technique plays a big part in hair care as well as science. I don't have 4C hair. I'll admit that that. But My friend with 4C hair told me she does avoid water because it does cause shrinkage then breakage (I hear a few 4c youtubers say the same). For my 4a hair, water just elongated it. It only shrinks after all the water evaporates. So some people may agree with his technique?
P.S - thank you for the saying I leave nice comments🙂. Thank you for the great content!!!!!
I have 4c hair and for me, it's the technique you use. I use water a lot and to prevent shrinkage and breakage, I use sections and I twist my hair to keep it elongated. If your friend just let her hair shrink back up, then breakage is inevitable 💁🏿♀️
1. No way I dealing with what's in the last video. And besides, it seems scripted. Why we shampooing away from the bowl?
2. Often I think some of the bad advice is from professionals that honestly think of type 4/afro textured/tightly coiled/etc hair as inherently unruly. That's the root. It's why our hair suddenly has to be way different and reject normal things like water. But fine, I'll grant it is also a poorly spliced clip in this specific case
3. I personally don't do the 1234 abc hairtyping but I think for a lot of stylists they take hair that afros, has tight tight curls and isn't silky as "4c" regardless of how people who curl type might categorise it. I will say also that generally I've seen different definitions about what 4c (well, same w other hair types sometimes) is so I can't blame those a bit removed from the online discussions around typing.
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I am beginning to hate more and more 4c being used as a label for our hair. Can we just use curly, coily, tight coils or loose coils, wavy? Please and thank you.
I don’t blame you for feeling that way tbh…
14:15 🏃🏾♀️💨
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That “Hell NAW!!!” took me out! 🤣🤣🤣
Wow…I don’t have 4c hair but have had plenty of negative comments on how bushy my hair is YUP big beautiful and bushy 😊
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Beautiful
He would be hurt! One Love 💕
Water is your hairs worst enemy - I agree with his philosophy
Usually it’s the other way around where they prefer 4 type hair.
I think I was making the same face you were when she started ripping that hair apart! Before she started ripping, I'd have to ask her why I'm sitting here looking like a troll? That is not part of the process. I'm really hoping that was just staged for views 😬
These people are frauds!!!💯FRAUD ,FRAUD ,FRAUD ONE LOVE 💕
This is why some people do not seek professional advice/care for their hair........
Seems to me that a lot of people in customer service jobs get upset when they have to do anything they consider to be extra. I miss the days when people cared and took pride in the the services they provide. Then they want to charge ridiculous amounts of money to do subpar work. SMH 🤨
Oh my goodness I know exactly what you mean. Even at some retail stores, it's like pulling teeth to get someone to thoroughly help you. It shows when someone genuinely loves their job or not.
OMG isn't that his JOB
Every stylist isn't well versed unfortunately. I'm just hoping he got the wording wrong...
The last stylist showed Black self hatred.
Shaming you for being other than what they're used to and challenging to their education and capabilities.
The braiders? Yeah...that's a whole mess lol!
I’m grateful I been going to the same stylist for the majority of my life & she actually stopped me from relaxing in 2010. But I be dammed if I hear & feel you ripping my hair like that… you don’t detangle when washing anyway. 😩😩 Another benefit of my stylist… she does everything. I personally think you don’t know what you doing if all you can do is braid. I would want to be in control of the prep of the hair before styling. My goodness this video… 😔
That’s amazing that you’ve found a good hair stylist. We need more… that don’t charge $500 to wash your hair. 😑
My whole scalp started screaming when I saw that shampoo video 😖
It’s literally frightening lol
The 1st hairstylist.... I am saying, waste of time, out loud as I walk out his salon...
Not out loud! 😂 I probably would keep all my thoughts to myself. I’d like to be more savage…I need classes lol
Don’t worry about it. I got it
You: "Would you get up and walk away or would you endure?"
Me: My flesh would probably fight.
#MyMindIsAppalled #MyBodyHasReflexes
Chile...🤣
💀💀💀💀 “My body has reflexes”
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Water is the enemy?!?!! Say what?!?
Whatever's going on in video 3 is illegal and should punishable by law! 🙆🏾♀️😤😤
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Sis.. 11:30
(A) you already are a celebrity, and
(B) when you become a bigger celebrity you STILL ain't wanna pay that (for jumbo-knotless 🧐 pleeeease PLUS come w your own hair to save coin) !!?? No one's trying to be cheap but don't try and play me for you being lazy
like you said: ..."Well (pause) you won't be getting my 4c goodness. NEXT" ✔️
A.: run away. periodt. THIS is not theory; already DONE.
It’s the point by point break down for me! 😂👏🏾👏🏾
@LaToya Ebony as your fan I'm here for it LOL
First of all..... how this ninja a hairstylist and he ain't got no hair of his own. I can tell by the misinformation he's spreading he straight perming hair. Clearly he don't care to do natural hair.
I’m not entirely sure. I’ve only spent about 5 minutes on his page and it seems like he doesn’t dislike natural hair…but I’m not sure that styling it in it natural state is his preference…
I cannot use plain water in my hair, or else, it'll be stiff and dry out, and I'm not saying this to defend what he is saying, I am just stating this to say that everyone's hair is different and we do what's best for us. I moisturise using two greases and shea butter and my cream my hair is moisturised for an entire month, sometimes for two weeks at least depending on the state of my hair at the said time and in that time period I only use water with glycerine once. All this to say our hair is different, what I do and what works for me, won't work for others, no hostility intended, just stating.