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- Should #ShakibAlHasan have withdrawn his appeal on #AngeloMathews' timed-out dismissal? Four former Pakistan captains opine.
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Angelo Mathews said, "it was Bangladesh that's why it happened, I don't think any other team would've done it".
He ain't wrong
i don’t know where you are from brother….but if doing mankad can be taken with the law and everything….what did shakib do wrong over there….!?! i saw teams like srilanka and india are doing mankads too….so whats this fuss about??? …it was about to effect our chances in CT….so as a captain he did everything to put the team in a better position…how is that even wrong???
@@AsifAli-mm5hyyou are comparing apples and oranges
@@AsifAli-mm5hybecause of their this disrespectful behaviour against other teams, nobody likes Bangladesh in world cricket.
That's why when NETHERLANDS beat Bangladesh, nobody even talk about that, 😂😂
@AsifAli-mmhy My friend the difference is in the intent. I consider mankading to be within the spirit of the game when the non-striker is taking an undue advantage by staying out of the crease in order to take tight single. Furthermore, there are some batsmen do not pay any heed to the warnings. They certainly deserved to be mankaded. Here Mathews wasn't trying to do any of that, neither his 5-10 second delay would have impacted Bangladesh in any unfair way.
Following such practices speaks volumes of cheap mentality of the personalities and the lack of self-confidence in the Bangladesh team.
Shoaib Malik & Misbah ..its nice to hear from you both that you never took such a bad decision that Shakib did today..it clearly shows your personality and spirit of game..
The funniest part is that Bangladesh was the 1st team to be knocked out of world cup. They literally had nothing to lose. Shakib's behaviour could have been justified if Bangladesh was still in race to get 4th position. He gained nothing by winning and instead lost all the respect for him.
Champions trophy qualification..they were at 9th position 😂
@@rajanyanagrightly said
Exactly. Sadly these kinds of actions are expected from Bangladesh.
Lol you're kidding right? There's a champions trophy spot at stake!
Champions trophy spots are on the line
In my opinion, this rule has to be changed. In such a situation, instead of declaring the batsman is out, they can impose a penalty of a certain percentage of the match fee similar to the over-rate penalty. A matter of safety of the batsman is also involved in this incident. So this rule has to be definitely withdrawn from Cricket
May be they can add in the rule if person has issues in helmet pads or any gears then this rule will not be applicable as it is a direct threat to the batters life or as you said imposed penalty fine over fine or reduce the player in power play out side 30 yard
Yes i do agree , Ahmedabad stadium where pavilion and ground is so far cricketer has to walk in the lobby before entering on the ground or give them facility of escaltor instead of walking they can come by escaltor which help him to reach on pitch in time
I agree with your suggestion to change the rule but it is the responsibility of the team and batsman to enter the pitch with proper equipment.
It's a threat to life playing with faulty protection gears. There should not be any penalty at all.
Maybe they can retire hurt the batsmen in such a case, and he can only come in to bat when all the other wickets of the team has fell. This would make the situation worse for the batting team and will ensure that the batsman arrives within time and faces the first ball
Expected answer from Moin who appealed on 2 bounce catch of Ganguly
Same thought came in my mind😂
That was clear out😂
Sri Lankans invested in poor quality helmet & their player was not ready & angry with his helmet. But this is world cup game. Players should be alert & ready. Blaming Shakib is stupid because he followed the rulebook of
@ICC. Now cry as much as you want but we won the game
Moin is way below player both in cricketing talent and in a spirit too.
How he is sitting with all those sensible gentleman people 😂
@@77gulshan1 he was having fun It was funny. Part of the game. Ask ashwin🤣
The reason i believe Shakib was at fault here is because umpires asked him two times if he wanted to withdraw the appeal and he said NO.
Why would he withdraw the appeal? He was following the rules. It's like the police asking me if I should withdraw my report against the guy who did a hit and run. He broke the rules and thus should face the consequences.
Umpire knows that, In recently Bangladesh did a mankad out Against new zealand, After giving out by the umpire then BD captain withdrew the appeal then batter called back to the field to bat. Thats why, umpire said, if i give it out then would you again try to withdraw the appeal? Shakib said no. Actually this match was a really important match for the team because of getting a chance to play the champions trophy. If they lose then 80% chances of playing the champions trophy will be gone. It is common sense that your equipment is broken, share the situation with umpire, i need to change it. Why did you come and go for change as you want, and its over 3 minutes.! You have been playing for 15 years!
Ese to bold krne p bhi out mt do😂
lol, why this double standard? some days ago while they withdraw the mankad out then critic says they break the rules, it's not bad spirit it's simply the rule, now while they went with the rule you're saying shakib's fault, it's like shakib gave that out, why this double standard?
why the heck icc even made this rule and umpire gave out? while creating this rule icc didn't check it's spirit? ridiculous.
@@rrraynoorrran incompatible analogy. Compare apples to apples not apple with oranges!!
Shoaib Malik whispering ‘Nobody is talking’ 😅 Funny guy. Entertaining as always
When?
0:29
Listen 28 sec to 31 sec
Presence of mind (y)
I doubt it's shoaib
Love for the SL team, they are a good bunch of players, very sorry they could not hit the semis due to so many injuries in their team, specially Hasaranga and others! Love from Pakistan to our SL brothers
2014 Josh Butler given Mankand Out By Sri Lankan Bowler & Angelo Mathews was captain of Sri Lanka. where was ur Common sence and sportsmanship that time 😂😂
@@MohammadShahidurRahman-99kbutler was warned multiple times....only then he was mankader
Gaddar sala
@@MohammadShahidurRahman-99kmankading was k... Bro.. because its a real mistake.... the batsman does that mistake and others can appeal that.... It can be done as a warning too... But here .. its not a mistake... The strap of the helmet was broken ... Mathews had no idea ... So after reaching the ground withing 2 minutes he went to replace that.... U cant compare mankadin with this shit.. even angelo Mathews told that..... 😊
@@MohammadShahidurRahman-99kBack then, Mathews had already warned him twice before mankading him
Misbah is so clear n honest !!!
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I felt it too..but just based on this I wouldn't put all the eggs in one basket...
But he was not honest when he was head coach and selection committee head 😂
This is what can be expected from Shakib. Cricket is a gentleman's sport and the Bangladesh captain showed his small mindedness.
This is of course within the rules, but should only be applied when the batsman is intentionally delaying. But that didn't happen here.
Shakib is returning home after winning the World Cup but it's not for cricket it's for small mindedness.
if it's a gentleman's game then why there are this kinds of rules to even begin with ?
Sri Lankans invested in poor quality helmet & their player was not ready & angry with his helmet. But this is world cup game. Players should be alert & ready. Blaming Shakib is stupid because he followed the rulebook of
@ICC. Now cry as much as you want but we won the game
jab ashwin nay kiya mankad toh sab chup thay.
Tough one actually! Shakib said he was in a war, this literally is qualifying spot for champions trophy. We can have this endless arguments!
Why are you barking at Shakib? He just appealed. Whether it's out or not ,the umpires have to decide. They decided that he was out. People are talking as if Shakib kicked Mathews out of the ground by force. Champions trophy was at stake. Bangladesh had to win this match to quilify.
My question is if the batsman had to play with the helmet not in order because of time out and if he gets hit by a bouncer and goes into coma,who would be responsible?
Did you notice how many if's were there in ur question...
mathews should be ready with all his kits. he is not sitting in park to enjoy his time.then it was spin over so no worries for bouncer in that over atleast 😂
As a professional player you have to make sure you are ready with all the equipment befor going to the criss,.. So all the player have to know the rules of ICC. Unfortunately Mathews missed it. He should have been more conscious about the rules
Now you will ask what if the batsmen forgots to put the L guard then what would happen 😂😂
At that time Shakib was bowling who is a spinner so he could play the over without helmet and asked for a new helmet after Shakib's over. Common sense Bro...😂
Angelo Mathew said that no other team would have done that but Mr. Moin Khan said it was a good decision and he would have done the same. For me as a Pakistani, this is very disappointing to watch. You can clearly see Shakib's decision damaged his country's reputation around the world. I would like to see PCB adding a rule in their law that "No future captain should stoop to this level as you are the ambassador of Pakistan. If a captain does something like this, then Vice Captain and other senior players would suggest him to withdraw that appeal". I have been a regular viewer of your show and I thought this is the best show. I loved it when Shoaib and Misbah said that with 100% conviction that they wouldn't have appealed. I'm sure no one would want a player whose cunning damages the reputation of Pakistan. Lastly in India vs Pakistan Virat Kohli made a point by looking at an imaginary watch when Rizwan came and I am sure Babar would never make an appeal like this ever. It's a request that in the next edition of your show, leave the foxes in the jungle. Thank you.
PCB first needs to fix their corruption n nepotism.
Great opinion ❤
Moin is very peaceful like shakib is 🎉🎉
Moin khan in shameless
If it is a written in book then it is a rule , if they don't want it why would they write
Point is he was at the crease ready. The helmet was damaged while he was at the crease and the umpires shouldn’t have made this decision
The main point should be if Batsman wore that helmet and played first ball, and then call for a new helmet the game would hve gone on as usual even if everyone had to wait for more than 3 minutes. I think Sri Lankan batsman didn't thought about this solution.
@@Urgrannytranny but this is where the umpires need to use their discretion. They knew he came out ready and was at the crease on time. What happened was purely accidental while he was at the crease. If umpires don’t use proper judgement then it’s going to affect the game. Ppl are upset because bangla used this rule in a very dirty way
No hypocrisy from Moin, respect Sir, loved your cricket back in the days.
What "I would have done" cannot be the standard you apply to others in a very different state of their life and career. And this match wasn’t a dead rubber at all, champions trophy qualification was at stake!
Moin khan being moin khan , claiming dropped catches and supporting shakib today😂
I still remember a test match were Moin claim a drop catch against ganguli...
Indians ne bhi bahut se dropped catches claimed kiye hain, unke baare mein kuch nahiin ?
You being an indian fan are obviously going to have a double standard... Ashwin gets cheap wicket with mankad and that's ok, but somehow moin khan appealing for timed out is bad? Chal nikal.
@@KaranSharma-lm6ehtumhari amma ki chuchi (boobs ) drop Kiya h India me aur kuch na betw
As an Indian I dont like the decision but if its within the rule then fgs grow a pair
Misbah is the most sensible and humble among the entire panel.
He doesn't talk a lot but always gives crisp and clear answers 👏
Respects to the panelists who have not supported the action of Bangladesh captain.
I would like to add two points:
1. Cricket is not a jung or war. It is a sport played to imbibe life qualities of fairness and learning to accept defeat gracefully while remaining modest in victory.
2. A couple of decades ago, it was a Pakistan bowler who stumped the batsman at non striker end for having crossed the crease before delivery. In contrast, a WI bowler (Harper, if I am right) exposed the Pakistan batsman in the same way but did not stum him out. Pakistan batsman had returned to the crease shamelessly, continued the play and won the match. That is the great sportsmanship of WI players. World acknowledges the gesture of WI bowler while criticising Pakistan batsman even today.
Misbah and Shoiab Mallik most honest cricketers from Pak.
Rahul Dravid and Denash Kartik most honest cricketers from Ind.
Shakib appealed And didn't take it back when requested by Angelo Mathews
Meanwhile Virat Kohli when crowd was trolling Smith and later he won the ICC spirit of cricket award
I Stand with The Right Guy
Har chiz mein kohli dhoni ya fir sharma ko ghusana mandatory hai kya?
2 completely different incidents. You're comparing apples and oranges
Ok clown 🤡
@@cricket_lover1725kyu nahi be chutiya
@@cricket_lover1725That's typical Indian for you...
Bangladesh may not be known for their outing in this world cup but certainly they made their name known and being the first country for reasons beyond anyone's imagination.
Misbha - yaar you have more knowledge about game than entire PCB
he also have better knowledge than Jay Shah
Was under-arm bowling not within the laws of the game in 1981 when Greg Chappell asked his brother, Trevor to bowl underarm?
Laws of game are solid and are there for certain reasons. Lawmakers can’t foresee every single possibility and make an exception on these and it’s always left to sportsman’s integrity that he would do the right thing when a dubious situation arises. Obviously there are certain players who don’t understand the concept and take bad decisions and then get criticised.
@manish - what’s your point - that is very infamous decisions even Australians are shameful about it - another example of ‘use commonsense & stick to spirits of games’ rather than hiding behind stupid laws of cricket. BTW the intent of laws are to keep the game moving ie. no deliberate delays. In this instance - that’s not what Angelo Matthews was attempting to do.
@@riteshkaushik That's what I wanted to convey - the action that is currently seen within the laws of the game will always be remembered as a black mark in Shakib's career. He will certainly regret his action later in his life.
Yes it was under the rules that time. Clever use of rules by Aussies. Now to look like good guys they might say they regret it😂
Few days ago Liton Das as a Captain had recalled Ish Sodhi but this time Angelo Mathews though reached before time on to the crease was not recalled by Shakib
If he reached before time, then they can't claim wicket.
Because liton das is hindu and Shakib is muslim 😂
Sri Lankans invested in poor quality helmet & their player was not ready & angry with his helmet. But this is world cup game. Players should be alert & ready. Blaming Shakib is stupid because he followed the rulebook of
@ICC. Now cry as much as you want but we won the game
waah bhai kya logic hai aapka, phit toh Siraj, Shami, Pathan brothers bhi bure log hain.@@Executor8
@@Executor8I guess Ashwin is Muslim
I remember during the final of Nidahas Trophy in which Dinesh Kartik hit the ball for a 6 and made India win the match, Bangladesh had taken a drinks break during that last over to break the flow.
Good observation men👏👏
Moin as expected 😂 No Spirit no nothing only high on weef.
You were going home anyway big guy, 5-10 secs wouldn't have made much difference. Lost the tournament but could've won some hearts today, failed pretty badly there too. Honestly, he deserves all the boos he can get for ruining the spirit of this beautiful sport.
We need champions trophy spot,thats why
@@FarhanSNafizonly to lose again?
@@va1bhav23 yeah maybe,but as a Bangladeshi i can hope for the best,after all
@@va1bhav23It's going to be the Senior player's last ICC tournament. They also beat Newzealand in last ICT. Pretty valid if they can qualify. Hate a bit rationally.
@@harrykane_ lmao hope he retires soon, this game doesn't need clowns like him anyway.
Shakib learnt his lesson in NZ match with the beating of Ish Sodhi...so he is not going to do the same with Mathews in SL match
Shakib Al Hasan didn't play that game😂😂😂 it was Litton Das captaining and it was he's decision to call back Ish Sodhi!! leaving Tamim Iqbal not pleased!😲.. Tamim Iqbal was in the playing 11 in that series tooo
Shakib scored 80+ today😂😂
Liton Das tha wo Shakib ni tha but ye Ghatiya harkat hai just like Mankad
@@the_factor-414 oh yes, Totally forgot....that was not WC
mankading and delaying both arent the same thing.as a bangladeshi i strongly disagree about what shakib did on the field yesterday. very ugly scenario in international cricket
Earlier in this world cup, only Bangladeshi fans were cursing shakin due to Tamim episode but now whole world is cursing Shakib.
if ICC had gone by rule book, point by point, dot by dot, Bangladesh would not have got Test Status at all. Its in the spirit of the game that ICC gave them test status.
Damn True ✌️
Why not?
Would you please explain, why not they should be given test status? Thanks.
@@VivekSingh06 because bangladesh had not played test cricket before.
Blame iccs rules,not bangladesh
But you guys have very good and honest over views on every match. I like it. Totally unbiased and clean approach. Keep it up.
Unbeknownst to Rex, like the other reporters, two minutes had passed before Angelo Mathews wanted to change his helmet due to a torn strap. The fourth umpire of this match, Adrian Holdstock, explained the whole process in an interview with the official broadcaster of the World Cup. It is the duty of the TV umpire to take care of these two minutes. It was the TV umpire who informed the on-field umpires that two minutes had passed before Mathews was ready to play the ball. However, whether or not to appeal the timed out was of course up to Shakib.
Holdstock also announced the timing of that appeal. After the strap of the helmet was torn. So Shakib didn't appeal even after getting the chance? Couldn't stand it anymore when Matthews was taking more time to talk about the ribbon tearing? There was no way to get this answer during the match.
@1:10 this program calculated as 1 minute 50 seconds. Someone should publish the video with timing.
Spirit of cricket also means accepting decisions in a gentleman manner! Why Mathew didn’t use his common sense and why he didn’t respect the decision which is in law, specially when its about time and the same time that penalizes the fielding team.
IMO both are out of the spirit but Mathews more so!
One of the honest and best cricket analyst in world..wasim sir, misbah sir love from india❤
ASHWIN AND SAKIB IN SAME TEAM
OPPOSITION : LETS READ ALL CRICKET RULES FIRST😂
There are rules and there are reasons behind the rules. The rule exists so that the batting team does not spend too much time sending in the next batsman. If it did not exist, just like fielding position discussions, the decision of which batsman to send next could take forever. If Angelo Mathews had taken his own sweet time to move his ass and take position and the rule invoked, it is understandable. However in this case, the batsman arrived on time. Typically many don't strap on the helmet tightly and await their turn to bat. Angelo Mathews comes in and when he adjusts his helmet strap it comes off. Now this is risky, both from a batsman's personal safety as well as the fact that if the helmet were to fall off and the ball hits it or the helmet falls on the stumps, it will invoke another dozen rules. Actually, the on field umpires themselves should have called for a time-out, particularly because the batsman can clearly be seen notifying the umpire and the opposite captain about having to change helmets. For this rule to be invoked in such a case seems jarring.
"Why are some people blaming Shakib for everything? Before pointing fingers at him, let's consider the following points:
1. Mathews is a professional and senior player; he should be aware of the ICC's 2-minute rule. His behavior suggested he might not have been familiar with this rule.
2. Being an experienced player, Mathews should ensure the condition of his equipment. If his helmet was defective, he should have replaced it before going onto the pitch.
3. Facing a spinner with a defective or no helmet is undoubtedly not a safety concern.
4. Once on the pitch, if Mathews noticed his helmet was defective, he should have approached the umpire for permission before leaving to get a new one.
5. This was not a simple match for Bangladesh. It was a do-or-die situation if they wanted to qualify for the Champions Trophy, and the same applied to Sri Lanka.
6. When a team has lost six consecutive matches, the captain may do everything within the bounds of the law to turn things around. And sakib did so.
During an Indian Pakistan match ( I think it was in Kolkata ) when a ball thrown at the non striker end by a Pakistani fielder towards the bowler. The bowler stumbled and collided with Sachin Tendulkar which made him slip out of the crease and the bowler holding the ball broke the wicket and appealed for a run out. Waseem Akram was part of the team then. So Mr. Akram where was your sense of fairplay then ?
Aktar was trying to collect the ball. He moved backwards to let the ball his the stumps. Sachin ran towards him. Nobody expected the fielder to direct hit from the boundary
Are yaar I am an Indian and I am saying this ke aj jo hua uske koi comparison nehi. Betuki baatein maat karo. Aj jo hua woh 1871 se kareeban 20,000 international matches mein kabhi nehi hua . Iska koi comparison nehi. Sharmnak!!!
@@reetammitra2943 agree but when Waseem Akram talks of fairplay it sounds hollow
Your recollection of the match is incorrect. That was 1999 Kolkata test. On day 4, Wasim Akram was bowling to Sachin. Sachin clipped it through mid wicket. Shahid Afridi chased the bowl. Shoaib Akhtar ran upto the bowling stumps to back up the throw (looking at Mid Wicket, and not at Sachin) and Sachin ran into Shoaib while completing the third, and Shahid direct hit the stumps from boundary. Tendulkar was short of the crease and was declared run out by the third umpire. They did look into Sachin and Shoaib collision and deemed that was not intentional as both of them were watching the ball and Shoaib was stationary looking away from Sachin when Sachin run into him. Your description of the incident makes it sound like completely different.
And to just FYI, when crowd rioted for perceived injustice, it was Sachin who came outside and calmed everyone. And even in press conference said it was his mistake that he was ball watching on the third run.
Irony when an Indian starts talking about Spirit of Cricket 😂
If someone do something lawfully, even if it might not pleasing, you can't blame him. You can praise him if he wouldn’t do that in that situation. The way Angelo blamed not only Shakib but also entire Bangladesh is also very disrespectful and unfortunate. Remember, they did not shake the hands which is purely against the spirit of the game. Shakib could've do otherwise but it was absolutely lawful and all the umpires were agreed.
Both the team ruined the spirit of game...there is no rule of Shaking hands to yes Srilanka is also within their rights to not shake hand with cheaters
@@RaviKumar-ww6vc You can see you have double standard in your comment. You said both team did against the spirit of the game. Again you claimed BD team as cheater. I am firmly stating again, if it was lawful you cannot call the team cheater. It is your preconceived hatred that made you thinking like this.
@@RaviKumar-ww6vc yes they r cheaters
Both the team brought disrespect to the game today, specially Angelo and Sakib, both should be banned from Cricket for a year for bringing shame to this game today.
its protective gear which means you dont care if ball hits him.. very funny u talk about law like do we take player safety seriously or not? why waste time everytime ball hits helmet and they check for concussion?? Ancient laws need to be scrapped and rewritten.
SL blaming shakib whether he was right or wrong but they forgot when sehwag was on 99 then SL bowled no ball deliberately & unfortunately sehwag couldn't complete his century match finished😔😌🤔
exactly man, also in 2014 when Angelo Mathews was Captain, Jos Buttler got Mankad ,now this time he was timed out and SL didn't shake hands with BD after the match, hard to define gentlemen's behaviour. yet they blaming shakib instead of umpires and the icc who gave out and made this rule.
@@sajidulislamskilledBangladeshi is street dog se bhi compare kar ni sake itna gatiye esebi gire huye country hy aur gir rahe. Har country majak ura deta hy tuk tuk laga deta hy bangali walo ko isi wajese
Cricket is called gentles man game for a reason
Wasim has already lived his words. He/Pakistan did not let Sachin bat once because Sachin was off the field for a certain time when India was fielding first. When India came to bat, they lost a couple wickets early. Sachin was set to come 2 down or so, but Wasim as captain told the umpire, Sachin has to sit out the time he was out of the field and only then can come for batting. This way Pakistan had a bigger chance to put India on the backfoot because in those early 90's only Sachin put on a fight.
I think you are confused with SA and Pakistan, It was south africa where sachin was out of ground for some time hence he was not allowed to bat before certain time and 2 early wickets fell
@@hardrockbharatyeah today's news did talk about SA vs India match when Ganguly took 6mins to come to bat cz Sachin wasn't allowed for the reason you mentioned and Viru was in the bath 😅.I tried to google Wasim's and Sachin incident but could not find it.Wonder which year/tournament it was.
Shakib should Learn from honest sportsman Rohit sharma in the help of controversy of dasun shanuka out.Rules are there but needed some sportsmanship
and what about all the mankads bro!?!…rules are there but needed a bit of sportsmanship like starc i guess…or spirit of the game is not a concern when team india play!?!😅😅
Look who is speaking salty Indians , when you can do mankading why Bangladesh can't get timeout, is that because Icc is India's puppet lmao , don't talk sh*t on youtube
Moin’s response of support and even Wasim’s sort of greyish response to this is not just disappointing but highly shocking.
Loved clear cut clarity in responses from Misbah & Shoaib to apply commonsense and maintain spirit of cricket.
He Deliberately wasn't wasting Any Time
Were was the spirit of the game.. Mis ba ul haq....You are a legend.....Hats off to you....Leadership....
3:52 Misbah you're wrong Bangladesh were already 2 overs behind at that stage
Shakib Al Hasan the latest entrant to the Brain Fade club of cricket.
If the Indian player did the same move all the Indian would be here defending him😂
Haan agar captain Ashwin hota toh😅 Rohit virat atmre not like that mindset
Love this panel. The way it was explained is rule vs sportsmanship❤
REALLY!!!
Birmingham 2014, 5th ODI SL vs Eng. Butler was batting on 21 at non-striker end and got out on Mankading. This gentleman Mr. Angelo Mathews, the captain of SL appealed for out and Butler had to go that day!! Everything comes back around full circle. One word to Mathews.... Behave.
Very surprised that Wasim said he would have taken the same decision depending on the situation, team. blah blah.. Disappointed.
Who was saying “Nobody is talking” at 00:30 seconds? 😂
Director saying that to fakhar i think
Nahi.. agar game jeetne ke liye itna niche Jana pade toh sayad game hi khelna band kar dena chahiye..
Moin bhai seems to be senior shakeeb..😅😅
Shoaib Malik & Misbah they are showing to much inosent players 😄😄😄
Shakib taken good decisions for his team,,,
If his not allowed from icc then you guys can toke like this,
Shakib need win the match,,
Not dramaaaaa,,,
Great Respect for Wasim Akram Bhai! But when it comes to spirit of the game, he clearly said that it depends on, team kounsi hai, situation kya hai, opposition koun si hai.... In Feb 1999 - Eden Gardens, Wasim Akram was the Captain of Pak team and bowling to which Sachin drived the ball for a couple, while trying to complete the third run, Sachin was obstructed by Shoaib at the bowling end eventually running him out by a direct hit from boundary fielder. It was a clear case of obstruction by S Akhtar, Captain Wasim could have called Sachin in w.r.t the spirit of game as he was just 5-7 fts away from wicket. But It was legendary, the great Sachin in question, India were cruising along at 146-2 with Sach and Rahul at the crease. Unfortunately, We, lost the game by 46 runs. Spirit of Game vapourizes when you have legends like Sachin or Virat in front. Nobody ever has asked Wasim this difficult one, i hope he clearly remember this mid Feb 1999 Test Match. I have utmost respect for him as always but that afternoon i felt he should have called Sachin in to the field. Clear case of opposition and situation as he has mentioned above, knew they would have lost it, if Sachin would have batted longer.
Very good channel! Interesting discussions…. I felt the observations are fairly unbiased.
do or die situation for Bangladesh for that champions trophy spot. Mathews on the pitch ,would have added 30 -40 more runs on the board and that will hamper them in run chase. As there is a law so he used it ,he clearly said it was a war . But in the end he scored 82 ,so it is not that srilanka took revenge on him. Again if this law is against sportsmanship then why you created this law. About sportsmanship about us don't talk about it ,just watch Bangladesh vs nez recent match before Wc, even in one of the match between afg vs ban ,there was run out case and there this shakib showed sportsmanship.
Shakib should have withdrawn his appeal so that the issue of timing out is highlighted yet the spirit of the game is sustained.
There is no question of not using common sense. If something is within the law, a team has every right to use it. And laws are made using common sense. If the law that a player has to be ready to bat within the allotted time didn't make sense, there wouldn't have been a law of such nature.
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It depends on the situation, Icc should Remove this law. According to Law Shakibs appeal was Right and thats why Umpire gave him out.
Not to remove law but add unavoidable situations as exceptions ……… like today’s situation
Best part of this clip was "Nobody is Talking"
Kudos to that person who had given the reminder "Nobody is talking" when Mathews incident was displaying ... (Please listen very carefully by using Headphone... From 28 Second to 35 Second)
Sakib has the right to do the right thing. He and his team was fined /punished( few times (during his captaincy) for taking more than allowed time in match. At the end ICC won't stop punishing him or his team . Every player should respect the ICC law, for unexpected circumstances like what happened today ICC must make exceptions. What happened today may not be nice but lawful. Both team under pressure, wanted to win eagerly , why should one team gives chances to other team on a battle. By the way Why do they bring defective equipment in ICC world cup, They could have brought best quality Helmet from the market outside the stadium .
ICC must review all rules that violate the 'Spirit of the game', if they put those rules in there, then there is NO SHAME in teams/players using it. ICC must review these and remove those rules so the 'spirit of the game' can continue. Don't put players in a situation where they make those decisions due to pressure when the game is on the line.
If it was Shakib instead of mathews then all ur point of view would have been different. Match was at stake and qualification for champions trophy was at stake. While already facing backlashes for bad performance of the team, as a captain he did what is best for benefit of the team if it helps them to move forward. He performed well and lead the team to good score. Hard for a captain to do everything when team is most like to lose and his own score is not enough alone for a win. In ur shoes you would not have called u all said but when in situation like that u might have had made the call. Sprit and sportsman ship being poor was also seen in ur teams and it was always when playing against Bangladesh, whether fake catch by wicket keeper or the events of final during asia cup against Bangladesh.
It is an old idea that timed out has never been done before and doing it now will be against the spirit of cricket. I think it is very logical in modern cricket with the current laws. Because the over now has to end at a certain time, this rule affects the outcome of the game at several stages. If it takes a little longer than the allotted time of 50 overs, the last power play has to bring a fielder thirty yards from the boundary which gives the batting team an advantage. Besides, the match fee is fined for slow overrate, in this rule, if there is a slow overrate in three matches, the captain of the team will be banned for one match. So in the modern competitive world, 11 players will stand ready and a Batsman will appear and finding one of his gear is non functioning and he will kept the 11-man team wait to take all the risks should not be contrary to any spirit or consciousness. Its modern cricket and the tough level of competitive temperament.
Yes i do agree , Ahmedabad stadium where pavilion and ground is so far cricketer has to walk in the lobby before entering on the ground or give them facility of escaltor instead of walking they can come by escaltor which help him to reach on pitch in time
I am surprised how ignorant all these reporters and analysts are never was this a dead rubber game for either Sri Lanka and Bangladesh there is still a spot for Champions Trophy 2025 which Pakistan has qualified as hosts and yes maybe Bangladesh wont win and play badly but qualifying still matters. In Bangladesh Shakib has faced a lot of criticism for bad performance, he even said this was like war for him. Yes, I do agree he was not on the right and very unsportmanship but more than blaming Shakib you should blame the umpires more for allowing this to happen why didn't they check that mathews 5-10 left and I am sure a lot of captains would take this wicket if asked so blame it on the umpires!!!
These guys are true sportsmen.
It's pretty surprising to hear Angelo Mathews express such critical opinions about another captain and their team. One might recall that Mathews was at the helm during a contentious moment in the England vs. Sri Lanka (2014) match where the 'Mankading' incident involving Senanayake and Jos Buttler occurred. As captain, Mathews upheld what some considered a divisive decision. This historical context lends a complex layer to the current discussion on the 'spirit of the game.' It's an opportune moment to reflect that controversies are not uncommon in the sport, and many teams and captains have found themselves navigating the fine line between the rules and the spirit in which they're intended. Every single team or every single player that we have seen at the international level has broken the 'spirit of the game" at some point in their career. Perhaps this reminds the cricket community to practice self-reflection before passing judgment.
Agreed... But will still say that it's no enough to defend what Shakib has done.
If you start with the logic of he did so it's ok for me to do it.... Comon dude are you under 19 or even lower?
This show is pure class.very good .better than any indian show.keep it up
In 1996 Titan Cup India vs South Africa Sourav Ganguly accidentally collided with a South African player and was run out, but South African captain Hansie Cronje called him back. Love u Hansie, we will remember you for that.
Yes
Do you think , there is conspiracy behind his death , plane crash ,people, say ,it's because of him ,entire ,match fixing scandal got exposed to cricketing world ?
Yes.He was a great hero and a real gentleman. I am worried about his death as a sri lankan cricket fan who has watched him playing
Cricket has really gone down..It was a shame..
You Pakistanis are always with us whatever happens. ❤ From sri lanka !!! I played school cricket since 1992 wnen Pakistan won the world cup. These guys seems never played school cricket to lean how to play this game.
Wasim Akram is a well respected Person in cricket World, very humble and polite person
Rightly said Moin bhai..it was do or die match for champions
trophy qualification and one important thing mathews did mankanding in 2012 with jos butler,then where was the spirit
of the cricket?
after 3 warnings
As sri lankans we are not surpriced as far as we are playing with Bangaladesh.They were like this and will be.Sorry for Angie but shakib show his and teams quality 😂.Its really now time to go .Your time up Shakib.You have lot to work on other than practices but on mental health.We knew the spirit of bangaladeshi players since the nagini dance but now they exposed it to the wole world.Well done shakib and team.❓
What is that Nagin dance?
Is that celebration illegal?
Again I am not supporting the action of Sakib.
Spirit of cricket also means accepting decisions in a gentleman manner! Why Mathew didn’t use his common sense and why he didn’t respect the decision which is in law, specially when its about time and the same time that penalizes the fielding team.
IMO both are out of the spirit but Mathews more so!
Maling someone out by that way simply shows how they are that's not cricket yes it is a rule but if u win like that it shows cowardness😂😂
@@madhusmitasahoo6737 lol, why this double standard? some days ago while they withdrew the mankad out then critic says they break the rules, it's against their country, they betrayed their country, it's not bad spirit it's simply the rule and bla bla bla. Now, this time while they went with the rule you're saying it shows cowardness?, it's like saying shakib gave that out not the umpires, why this double standard?
why the heck icc even made this rule and umpire gave out? while creating this rule icc didn't check its going against the spirit or cricket? ridiculous.
Shakib just followed ICC rules and regulations. He did not break the ICC laws. Kindly change the ICC rules then talk about Shakib Al Hasan.
When you just don't understand what the situation was then stop giving your stupid opinion
This is hypocrisy at its finest level! If its legal in cricket, and you can appeal to the umpires and they give it out, whats the issue here? Even few years ago mankading was not deemed true to the spirit of the game and then Sri Lanka and Indian players (esp Ashwin) started doing it on regular basis and now its a norm! Just because it hasnt happened doesnt mean it shouldnt happen. Use your common sense people.
REALLY!!!
Birmingham 2014, 5th ODI SL vs Eng. Butler was batting on 21 at non-striker end and got out on Mankading. This gentleman Mr. Angelo Mathews, the captain of SL appealed for out and Butler had to go that day!! Everything comes back around full circle. One word to Mathews.... Behave.
If you listen to his post match conference he has absolutely lost it! Calling Shakib and Bangladesh disgraceful for doing something lawful in the game of cricket is nothing but disgraceful on his part! As Simon and Vaughn pointed out he could have easily gone to Shak and the umpires to ask for another min but instead of that he just took time on his own disregarding everyone as if hes taking a stroll in the park.@@babac4407
@@babac4407first see that match
He was already warned once or twice but he still left the crease so he mankad him
nothing wrong in it if u have already warned
Why does your video footage of matches always come as a static picture ?? I hope you guys are aware of it. As you might be reviewing it but we see as a static image
My thought is "why is it expected from bowling team to play in sprit of the game"
Dont do mankad bcoz isnt not in sprit of game
Dont ask for time out bcoz its not in sprit of game
But batsman never play in sprit of game...very few batsman walk when they feel they edge ball and were caught, most of them stand and watch
Its in rule for a reason
I'm not shocked at Moin Khan's and akram's answer..as the former appealed on a bounce catch against Ganguly and the latter was leveled against fixing charges. Other two gentlemen have clearly denied, respect!.
When Sachin was run out due to collide with shoib Akhtar in Calcutta test match wasim was captain. So he can not answer that
It was Sachin fault
wow, did you look at where was Sachin running, why he chose same axis as that of fielder ?
Shakib was well within his rights to uphold his appeal -- BUT HE SHOULD HAVE withdrawn it. it is as simple as that. it's called sportsmanship and win or lose - he would have been applauded for that. instead he has soured relations and his reputation
The best thing is they are being honest ❤
I liked the response of Moin Khan. Rules are rules and people should not complain if a captain follows a rule. People should also not complain in the future about Mankad or Run outs by Wicket keeper etc
Its truly commendable that each pannelist is so honest with his opinion. There is no bias.
Respectfully disagree with all the guests of the show this time. Misbah saying Bangladesh has nothing to lose is wrong. They were on 9th in the table and champions trophy spot is up for grabs. Any captain would be desperate enough to get a wicket especially Mathews.
I stand with Shakib in this case. He played within the rules and moreover the fourth umpire clearly mentioned Mathews was already beyond 2 mins even before the helmet strap broke.
This would bring up more complications and every team would be eyeing the timer in crunch games whenever a batsman comes in.
It was genuinely uncalled for. Not required to be done by Shakib in spirit of game.
Imagine if Shakib done this to Virat !! Hahaha...i don't think Shakib will get out from India
Nor wud he get in...for ipl
Shame on sakib. Not a sprit of sports...some time you lost the game what wins heart....be gentle
Pakistani players talking about spirit of game.
Remember rashid Latif catch appeal without catching the ball against Bangladesh.
Ek galat chij k wajah se doosari galat chij justify nhi hoti
No! Absolutely no need for Shakib to withdraw his appeal for the "time-out" dismissal..Why, you may ask? Simply because the rule is a part of the game since quite long and any dismissal of a batsman under this rule is legitimate. Otherwise, the umpire (Mr Erasmus) wouldn't have had the good sense to declare Mathews out!! Hence, no question of being unethical or going against the "spirit of the game" at all.
Spirit of the game is nothing for Moin khan was the same in his old days…. He is big brother of that Sakib 😂😂
Shameless honestly from such a big player like shakib😢
A lot of people commenting here does not know that there was a high stake for both teams in this match - a champion's trophy slot.
As a Bangladeshi fan, I don't like what Shakib did but I put more blame on Mathews. A senior cricketer like him should have known better to avoid this unfortunate dismissal. Lot of discussions about spirit of the game even though no one can define what it is. If there's any violation of spirit in this game, it was done by Mathews and co. by not shaking hands with BD okayers after the match and going after Shakib and Bangladesh in the post-math press conference. When Litton das called back Ish Sodhi last month after a mankad incident, he was criticized for not following the letter of the law. This time Shakib did the opposite and still got criticized. So, we don't need to pay heed to such nonsense and focus on winning games within the boundaries of the law. We don't owe anyone any explanation. Again, I don't like what Shakib did but again I am not going through the same pressure to win games. Kudos to him for a match winning performance which very few are talking about.
It's disgusting to see people who defended Mankads are now criticizing Shakib for a similar issue.
i expected moin khan will support shakib as he himself appealed bump catch of ganguly twice.
Moen khan said the real thing, others are trying to present themselves as morally high but it’s was within the rule! Interestingly None said icc should changed the rule😅
There are “Rules of game” and there are “Rules of Sport”. Subtle but significant difference.