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First off … the pels have defeated the most teams over .500 than any team other than the Celtics , secondly, zions points are down bc he is slowly bringing himself bacc into play while trying to stay healthy, has nothing to do with zions ability, if you look at him now vs how is was at the beginning of the season , you can see his conditioning is starting to pay off , he looks slimmer and faster .
Yea its ashame he uses the season to get in shape, but it is what it is. Praying this man stays healthy for the last 18 games so we can see him full force in the playoffs.
Plus they are playing team oriented basketball which is why our bug 3 numbers our down
Haven’t beaten the Suns
@@colinedelman6392hahaha
@@Shortballa11he is only using the season to get conditioned because he came back from injury and is building his body back into proper shape without getting injured
Pelicans are just so well balanced and built for the future. Easily have the best wing core in the league. Herb Jones and Trey Murphy don't get enough credit.
"best wing core"?--- ever heard of the Jays?
@@gerardrazulcarim4922thats two wings. Ingram, Zion, Trey, and Herb Jones clear.
Bontemps clearly doesn't watch the Pelicans. Just say that, Sir, instead of sounding like a dunce. You may be right about other teams wanting to play us, but it's because they're like you. They don't watch us. We're just gonna have to prove it. Zion is finally in-shape now, you can tell by his recent hustle. Thank you, Brian for correcting Bontemps for his outrageous statement regarding the progress after the in-season tournament.
Im a Pelicans fan and teams want to play them cuz they are the least experienced. Zion the only star that hasnt played in the playoffs. Even Shai has played as a role player twice.
And yet he seemed to be very outspoken lol these guys have no idea what's going on with the Pels ... this podcast was just bad. I mean it seems lazy of them not to try to get the info or watch the games. Just pulled the Pels record vs the clips and Timberwolves .... teams are afraid of the Pels (Sacramento, Golden state)
Perfect
Exactly, they "have to prove it." Deep, talented roster, a very good team, but not a top seed and zero playoff accomplishments. It's probably a legitimate concern that one or more of the big three will get banged up in a physical 7 game series. I wouldn't pick them to but I'll be rooting for them to beat the Clippers.
The Pels are bbq chicken just like the Kings.
I hate when the national media talks about my pels. They always looking for the worst for us.
ALWAYS!
Spot on mate 👏🏀🇬🇧
Zions career has been disappointing and besides that no one wants to talk about New Orleans. I don’t blame them. Prove em wrong
Me too. They need to leave em alone.
They always hatin.you'd think they want our team to leave our city
The Pels are a balanced team. Z nor BI have to do it big every night.
This! This is what most aren’t seein’. We’ve witnessed playoff BI and he went off! I believe that’s what we’re preppin’ for.
Exactly 😢❤ anyone on the team can get the hot hands 🥵
I can tell yall dont watch pelicans, but are forced to talk about them right now. Smh i am glad yall talking about them but watch games.
Its obvious when you the listener has actually consumed these games VS listening to people who get paid exorbitant amount of money to talk sports and clearly they haven't watched more than 2 games this season
THIS TEAM IS ON PACE TO WIN 50+ GAMES THIS YEAR, WILLIE GREEN GOT THEM PLAYING SOUND DISCIPLINE UNSELFISH BASKETBALL. THEY ARE A YOUNG HUNGRY TALENTED SQUAD. THE PELICANS CAN GET TO THE NBA FINALS AND WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP THIS YEAR AND BEYOND. THEY ARE THAT GOOD AND NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THEM AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE PLAYOFFS AND KNOCK OFF A FEW TEAMS THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SEE IT. PELICANS FANS ALREADY KNOW, TIME FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO KNOW! THEY GOT SUPERSTARS, A DEEP BENCH CAN PLAY DEFENSE AND SCORE THE BASKET!!! THEY'RE SHOOTING 40% FROM THE 3 POINT LINE AS A TEAM. TRAY MURPHY & HAWKINS, MARKSMANSHIP FROM THE 3 IS INCREDIBLE! PELICANS HAVE THE BEST 3-N-D WING PLAYERS IN THE NBA. HERB JONES IS ALL PRO DEFENSIVELY. THEY GOT IT ALL!!!
THEY HAVE THE MOST ROAD WINS, MORE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM IN THE NBA AT 21 ROAD GAMES. THAT'S TIED WITH THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES AT 21
100% correct on Corey Kispert in NBA 2K. He's ridiculous in that game!
Assists, health, and being a real integrated part of the team is huge for the pelicans. Outweighs every other factor you mentioned, and it’s been great watching them improving steadily throughout the year and still looking better. My worry is we have the 4th best net rating for games, but we have the 3rd worst 4th quarter net rating
LMAOOOO not Windy cooking his son with the wizards pure gold
Y’all gotta stop platforming people who read stat sheets instead of watching games…
Bontemps is comedically off the mark.
And hes such a smug axxhole
Needed something to listen to while working and BOOM! Thank you
These injuries in the West. Pelicans about to move up. Just watch.
My Pels getting some ESPN time...😲😲🏀🇬🇧
Becouse they don't know Denver Oklahoma too is 11 and 4 but sure pelicans are hotest team 🎉 Boston 12 and 3
Who made that painting behind Bontemps? Beautiful work
Corey Kispert in 2k is real. I picked the wizards cuz they had no pg as starter and Kispert is hard to miss with but his shot can be blocked as he leans forward a lil too much.
“The conspiracy” is that Scott Foster was the only other individual known/documented to have been religiously in contact(100’s of phone calls) with Tim Donaghy during the period in which in he was known to be match fixing.
fr?? He is just an awful official and not in control of his emotions at all. Would love to see him gone, guilty or not lol
I'm from new Orleans LA I couldn't wait for our team to return to the team tht took the spurs 7 games 2 yrs straight when they had tim Duncan mano parker n the rest
Duncan, Tony and Manu were past their prime c'mon now...
@@lazesquivel2677in 2007? no they weren't you're just talking
@@cmn225 the spurs didn't play NO in any playoff series in 07!
@@lazesquivel2677 2007-08 conference semis just say you don't know ball and go
@@lazesquivel2677 stop your a joke tht same year they win it all then wht bout when we took Kobe n pay gasol with bynum 7 in the 1st round
Bontempts proves the fans right week after week. He’s clearly got the most punch able face among all nba writers. Can’t stand his annoying smug attitude towards everything.
Whatever he says I hate it. Even if it is true. Such a bad personality
They mention the IST Laker loss, but fail to recall the Pels spanked the Lakers by 20+ when they met again in NO. They also failed to mention that the Pels having either tied or winning records against the teams ahead of them.
Then the Lakers spanked them again 😂
Lakers are trash
And somehow the Pelicans are still -41 in their 3 games against the Lakers. Want them to bring that up too 😂
I hate how the media now just ignores Zions ability to dismiss him. He is playing so well in his new PG type role, he is scoring like 60% from the field. Like I’m sorry he didn’t do it earlier, but Zion is still great
National media is confused. Wait..the Pelicans are really good. The only team that is a threat in the Western Conference to the Pelicans is Denver.
Pels beating teams that they should beat. But I need to see them take down some top tier teams.
The NBA and mainstream media have learned nothing from the Nuggets championship. They are fixated on the Lakers, Celtics, and Warriors.
That's because it's hard for small markets to win but yes I agree I'm sick of the Lakers Celtics and warriors time for new team to take over and make the league better
Yall making a lot of excuses about the Heat last year but didnt mention that Jimmy Butler rolled his ankle and didnt player a game against NY and then beat Boston on a bad ankle.
They talking about Pelicans losing Ingram Im pretty sure they would get rid of Cj McCollum and his expensive a$$ contract first I already think they should I was hoping they can get rid of McCollum for Dejonte Murray or a real point guard with defense Pels have enough scoring already
Get rid of McCollum and Jordan Hawkins get more minutes
Brian every time there’s a 3pt specialist they are just a bucket in 2k. Dylan windler was the same way in 22’ lmao
Why you guys never mention the Heats injuries. Tyler Hero missed the whole playoffs their second leading scorer, Victor blew out his quad. The Greek Freak came back at 2 games to ONE, why all the excuses.
I remember Tim Donaghy doing the podcast circuit after the doc. He talked about a famous game where he and the other refs repeatedly called Iverson for carrying the ball, apparently because "AI threatened another ref, and that didn't sit right with us." I also didn't find him credible. My belief is still that he and his mob cronies had money on that game, too. I wouldn't trust that guy to tell me the sun was going to rise in the East tomorrow, and nobody else should either.
In the middle of their discussion of gambling, I got a gambling ad. 😂😂😂
kispert is indeed unstoppable in 2k lmaoo
Brandon Ingram's contract situation will be interesting this off-season knowing Trey and JV need to get an extension if they do. We already know Gayle Benson doesn't want to pay the tax so not sure what the Pels will really do.
they won’t extend JV
I think Pelicans is good team certainly underrated but compared to team like Denver I think there is a gap there.
It would be a fun first round matchup though first time Zion play in playoffs.
Let’s not mention Tyler Herro being hurt while we excuse teams who weren’t supposed to lose, losing.
Ya play better without Herro
@@Shortballa11 weirdly enough they do play better when missing key players. it’s still 20 points not playing. And he has his moments.
Let’s go pels
Are the Bucks better? Did the Bucks just slow the pace of games and alternate their defensive and offensive rankings? So fewer defensive possessions suddenly means better defense? They are a bad defense still. Doc didn't fix anything.
espn needs to compensate bontemps with a free therapy session for having to witness that 6ers knicks game 😂
I think ref's risk getting caught when they fix games, but the point is kind of that the gambling has reached this incredible level of detail now of betting on individual players and parlays to where they could make money on games with it being very hard to detect.
And let alone if any of them do this and get caught, the fact that it's possible will damage the integrity of the refs and the game. "Appearance of impropriety" is already a problem.
Y’all gotta give a reason why Donahey story isn’t credible instead of jus saying his story isn’t credible
STOP TALKING ABOUT THE PELICANS WHEN YOU OBVIOUSLY ONLY MIGHY WATCH THEM IF THEY ARE ON NATIONAL TV. LET THE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WATCH EVERY GAME TALK ABOUT THEM
Why is it hard to believe that the NBA would rig games that allow their betting partner to make money? Windy acting like something so simple is a leap in logic
Lol going to be funny if the pelicans and kings both end up being top 6 seeded teams and neither teams had all stars this year
Love how yallvkaze okc and t wolves bit are sus about new Orleans 😂
Nobody thinks the bucks have solved all the problems jesus christ this guy can be unbearable .
Naz reid is sooo good
It is easy to see the refs have personal beefs with certain players. It is not a fan thing. I have see it on teams and players that I am not interested in. When certain refs appear trying to make a point with certain players it turns me off. I can understand quick technical fouls but some of the basic foul/nonfoul bad calls appear to be intentional. Not a Harden or Morey fan but video clips are the way you show evidence of the problem. Going public with it does seem to be counterproductive.
You don’t trust us because we had injuries 😮 make it make sense….
Lets go Pels,
Highlited Zion block was obvious goaltend. Ball was past peak.
Even LeBron complains about the refs when tbe Lakers get only 12 FTs...
Here we are downing what Miami did last year. They did beat Boston right? 😂
3 time all star khris Middleton has missed a ton of games for the bucks .
The crater on dude nose is huge 🐽 looks like it hurt if u touch it
😂😂😂😂
Daylight Savings Time kicked in Saturday. The players all played lousy maybe because of it. Their body clocks were thrown off. No one could even catch a ball. They looked like they were sleepwalking zombies.
Flock up
Kevin Pelton is not made for podcasts bro. He should stick to writing. He's painful to listen to.
Definitely does not have a career in studio
Brian Windhorst is one Naive fellow… Of course you don’t see the connection with the gambling and referees… Isn’t this podcast sponsored by a gambling company!? 🤣🤔🤫
If imgram dont make all nba third team im done with basketball
This podcast won't age well... It's clear none of these guys watch the Pels... there was soooo much misinformation given here lol * *Unsubscribing*
Cause the nuggets and okc are the big time teams lol
Done watching lwbron kd and curry always stacked bums timw for a new generation
I genuinely dislike this group of non hoopers and their perspectives.. who made them the gurus like come on
I remember when Ben Simmons was supposedly back this season too
He played 15 games this year Zion has played over 50. What’s your point
Back, keyword here
@@nathanbenson9166 You're a big fan, remaining the eternal optimist is your job. I respect that
I had heard a rumor that the Pels were deciding between Zion or Ingram for next season? Any truth to this? If its any reason other than budget it wouldnt seem right.
Outside rumor that usually starts from people who hate pelicans and small market teams. Smh
I think this is a possibility unless pels win a series this year
Bontemps needs to be laid off this guy is not likeable
There's been rumours that teams and refs keep final scores wtihin a few points, so betters don't win those more than 10 points final score difference bets, right?
Bumtempts is an absolute bozo
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Pelicans can't afford to keep all these players come next season with many contract renewals coming up. If they all stay healthy by the end of the season my bet is on Zion getting traded for multiple first round picks and then pay BI, JV and Jones.
you couldn't be more wrong
Hi I'm first
He’s about to get injured in a couple of games 😢 😅
Ok lets calm down ... 4 game win streak isnt that impressive,
Also, they dont even have a top 3 record looking at last 10 games
Okay they got the 8th best record overall Zions finally in shape and lean I gram has been coasting herb and trey are really good and CJ is a good 6th man
Pels suck go mavs
Hahah what? Pels will son The Mavs
Media is again not talking about Luka mvp things
you cant be MVP from the 8th seed.
Because he doesn't deserve it lol he plays no defense and I'm a Luka fan if the can get a top 5 seed than maybe even Brando Ingram better than Luka right now but Ingram don't have the ball in. Us hand every single possession
SERIOUSLY, WHY DO YOU GUYS KEEP RECORDING AT HOME?? ALL THAT DOES IS MAKE THE SHOW LOOK LAZY AND BORING!! IF THOSE AREN'T AVAILABLE AT THE STUDIO, THEN SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD DO THE SHOW, COVID IS OVERR!!!!
they are doing it at dang near midnight every time. They aint going to the studio.
Who cares, nobody checks the pod for the background, we’re here for basketball talk