As I said in my other comment, if you're willing to put the effort in on Android, compute can get you much closer still. Being able to change every parameter of the entire google camera pipeline makes for incredible-looking images even on old phones. You once did the video on a custom gcam on oneplus, but getting a custom library (that's the processing parameters) if like twice as powerful at least
I really appreciate the easy vs hard pathways on the flow chart. Too many other videos on UA-cam saying, "if you're not shooting in ProRAW you're an idiot!" and that's just not true for some people.
David is an extremely talented photographer. I would love to watch a video of him taking photos on an iPhone and then explaining what he does in post + reasons for a specific shot. Like “this is the portrait/landscape/etc I took and here’s what I’ve done to it and why” So many of us would love to take beautiful pictures but lack talent. And David is a great explainer when it comes to photography. Please, consider!
This is not intended to bash or praise either Apple or Android. This is simply to give Android users the same paths talked about here. I'm typing this on my Pixel 8 Pro and followed along with the video. 2:12 Android always remembers your settings. 2:27 I don't have Photographic Styles. 3:03 I turned on my grid, level, and mirrored the front camera. The setting for mirroring on Android is "save selfie as previewed". I tuned that off. 3:30 I don't have "prioritize faster shooting" but I do have a setting that lets me pick between 12 and 50mp. I just always leave it on 50mp regardless. And when 50mp is enabled over 12mp, burst is greyed out. 3:48 Again, I don't have Photographic Styles and I'm not sure what the equivalent would be. Maybe the filters in the Android camera are the same thing but those are after you've shot a photo so not really. There are in-viewfinder shadow and white balance sliders you can adjust before taking a photo if you tap the sliders icon beside the shutter button. But, again, I'm not sure if that's the same thing. So I'm going to skip the whole Photographic Styles path. 5:01 Intense path: I already had Lightroom mobile installed and subscribed to it. 5:24 For formats, in the pro settings, you can pick just JPEG or JPEG and RAW. So, I turned on both. So when I take a picture, I get the JPEG file and the RAW file. RAW is not ProRAW, keep in mind. If I remember correctly, ProRAW is Apple's proprietary version of the RAW format. Everyone else uses RAW format. The point is, I now have JPEG and RAW files to work with. 5:52 No, I'm mostly in Android and Windows. So, I'm skipping the yes path here. 6:37 There's no JPEG-XL setting on Android so skipping that. 7:05 Yes, I shoot video. So, let's do this path. The 8 Pro can do 4k60fps so that is now enabled. 7:19 Keep in mind that turning on 60fps disables the HDR settings so if you want HDR, leave it on 30fps. I don't like the look of HDR and I would rather get 60fps videos so I turned on 60fps. This is a personal choice thing and I'm pretty sure the Pixel 9 can do 4k120 with HDR. I am generation behind. That's why I have to pick one or the other. 7:44 Intense video path: There isn't a ProRes setting on Android because that's an Apple thing but you can pick between H.265/HVAC and H.265/AVC. HVAC is a smaller file but may not be compatible with some stuff. I use AVC because stoage isn't a concern. I'd rather have compatibility. 9:53 You can adjust the shadows, white balance, saturation, ISO, ect before taking a picture by hitting the sliders icon beside the shutter button on Android. There aren't any "styles" presets which is what Photographic Styles sounds like, but you can adjust these settings in the Android camera before taking a photo. Then, after taking the photo, Google Photos gives you *all kinds* of adjustments you can make including filters and adjusting the look of said filters. That's it, I think. Right? Even last year's Pixel can do most of what they're talking about here. Don't think you have to have the latest iPhone to do this stuff.
Can't explain how much I appreciate this. I was just wondering if someone could create this, thank you! Edit: samsung has a feature called intelligent optimisation that, if set to maximum, can prioritise quality over speed.
Just 1 correction. ProRAW is just RAW. In fact it is computational RAW exactly like a Pixel does RAW, or most phones do RAW in 2024. There is nothing special about it compared to other premium phones.
Hell yes. I just upgraded to the 16 pro but felt like I needed to actually learn how to take photos with it instead of the usual autopilot. Great content
It will lose. An unedited photo from a camera will always lose to an unedited smartphone photo because the software on smartphone cameras is designed to output a photo that's already altered to be the most interesting to our contemporary aesthetics.
This is an awesome video and I specifically liked the camera settings portion of it. Would want to see this kind of a video for the upcoming Samsung S25 line up and may be a pixel one too. Also, would like to see this kind of a video as part of a series of videos wherein you, the experts, take us, the noobs through various settings not only for the auto settings but also manual shooting options wherein you can adjust a lot of input data.
HDR (Dolby Vision) has nothing to do with protecting highlights. It's a format that displays higher nit values on your screen. You might be mistaken with HDR photography which is exposure bracketing. Two very different things. Source: I'm a pro film colorist.
I can see the studio channel videos getting better and better thumbs up 👍 for that and we need more videos like this. Whatever you guys are doing you’re doing it right
If you look closely on the x5 one, 2nd and 3rd have EXACTLY the same size in the sign. That’s bc both Samsung and iPhone have x5 lenses (which they shot in), versus the R5 who is slightly less zoomed in (they did it manually, not a x5 button)
That conclusion about pixel peeping is right - I've already taken plenty of photos and videos for work with the iPhone 16 Pro, and it's near-as-dammit good as a solid mirrorless cam unless you're looking very closely.
I think you keep preserve photographic style as you can get more functionality setting the default in the camera app and you can more easily change that when shooting. Has been working well for me.
Definitely a good video for the average consumer or a novice. What I think would be worth mentioning is that Apple's built-in photo's app can edit RAW photos pretty well. It's not going to be as feature-rich as Lightroom, but definitely gets the job done if all you're going to do is adjust levels.
Excellent video new guys!😁 Nice to see that a quality large sensor camera can still produce better photos than a phone--THOUGH ONLY MARGINALLY these days. And only astute, camera-educated people can even see the difference. Kudos to both full-frame photography and tiny-sensor smart phone photography! They are both wonderful tools and each has its place.
David will say "I'll know when you shot with a phone" then proceeds to post the most fire photos ever made with an iphone on threads. Love you guys, this vid was incredible.
I'm watching this on my A03 Core because my iPhone 8 Plus's battery hasn't been replaced yet, lol. I'm purely here for the entertainment, knowing I'll just do 4K 60fps everything - not to spite Marques, but because I love using 60fps in my personal (and very VERY soon, UA-cam) videos! When I inevitably upgrade my iPhone, I'll go to 4K 120fps! Edit: My iPhone 8 Plus is on 76% battery health, for reference. I just got a lightning charger, so now I can actually put it to use when the battery is replaced!
Photographic style is stored as a layer under the hood so you are always able to revert back to the default style later on with full raw info still available
I would really appreciate an Android version of this video where you utilise androids strength: customizability. Like Motioncam which does RAW and LOG video on Android with video quality that way outperforms the iPhone. And with custom gcam apps you can edit every step of the processing pipeline, netting incredibly natural pictures that even when zoomed in don't have that smartphone look. Bit technical maybe but there are pre-made apps. I can get you in contact with the devs.
@@CarswithMiles Imagine being a tech journalist but not knowing that if you're willing to put in the effort (and granted, forgo some workflow efficiency) you can get wildly better image quality across the board. Just search on older android vs iphone log Motioncam. Or better, try yourself
Anything where most of or the whole frame is in focus, like a landscape shot, becomes really hard to tell if it's shot on phone or not. At least if it's processed correctly. All of these shots having some sort of clear subject totally gives it away though. But like if I shoot my 35mm lens at f8 and take a picture of a landscape, it vs a phone is super close.
I thought I was the target viewer for this video at first, I am a HUGE iPhone photographer. It’s one of the main reasons I carry my 13 mini around with me. And interestingly enough, one of your first points I really disagree with. Photographic styles is the feature I use most as I will do ANYTHING but post processing. It’s also like the only way to get somewhat more realistic colours because Apple’s default colour profile does not work with all colours (there never is a one size fits all) but I guess it might be just me because I never edit in post, only whenever I’m shooting. That’s why I’ll probably upgrade to the 16 pro thanks for all the new photographic styles and settings. Great vid anyways, thanks for the work!
BLIND CAMERA TEST PLEASE!!!! Let's make them do it guys. We also want you to film the most high-end MKBHD video you can with the iPhone 16 Pro Max. Then we want another one where you use the 3rd part lenses and see what cool shots you can get with those.
I’m loving the more frequent upload schedule!
We've used up both our monthly videos! 😝🗣🗣🗣
Like seriously
So long as it doesn’t sacrifice the quality of the videos as a whole (content+production).
Quality over quantity
They got these two producers for this Studio channel so they are dedicating contents in this channel
Can I just say 18:14 is an absolute bar?
Real
Kanye bars 😅
album art shot on an iPhone
As I said in my other comment, if you're willing to put the effort in on Android, compute can get you much closer still. Being able to change every parameter of the entire google camera pipeline makes for incredible-looking images even on old phones. You once did the video on a custom gcam on oneplus, but getting a custom library (that's the processing parameters) if like twice as powerful at least
when's the album coming out?
As someone who knows nothing about photography and cameras, I love watching David and Marques geek out and explain their thought processes.
I could watch David geek about Cameras all day long.
It's really cool to see them in a context where they can show their deep expertise
First video from the new guys and we love it..
This was informative but yeah of course storage is gonna burn really fast...
“Echo system”
Same energy as Marques pronouncing “niche”.
It’s giving homeschooled
wdym@@AlexPrevost
I noticed, that too. LOL, It is so true.
It's because Apple is keeping their users in an echo chamber hahaha
the workflow at 1:39 😭🔥
Gotta hand it to The Studio for putting out such quality content that would greatly help upcoming creators. You guys rock!
I really appreciate the easy vs hard pathways on the flow chart. Too many other videos on UA-cam saying, "if you're not shooting in ProRAW you're an idiot!" and that's just not true for some people.
This channel has been cooking lately !!
David is an extremely talented photographer.
I would love to watch a video of him taking photos on an iPhone and then explaining what he does in post + reasons for a specific shot.
Like “this is the portrait/landscape/etc I took and here’s what I’ve done to it and why”
So many of us would love to take beautiful pictures but lack talent. And David is a great explainer when it comes to photography.
Please, consider!
I just switch to iPhone, your video is a lifesaver! I was going crazy at work with exporting the images to windows and other non-apple platforms!
This is not intended to bash or praise either Apple or Android. This is simply to give Android users the same paths talked about here.
I'm typing this on my Pixel 8 Pro and followed along with the video.
2:12 Android always remembers your settings.
2:27 I don't have Photographic Styles.
3:03 I turned on my grid, level, and mirrored the front camera. The setting for mirroring on Android is "save selfie as previewed". I tuned that off.
3:30 I don't have "prioritize faster shooting" but I do have a setting that lets me pick between 12 and 50mp. I just always leave it on 50mp regardless. And when 50mp is enabled over 12mp, burst is greyed out.
3:48 Again, I don't have Photographic Styles and I'm not sure what the equivalent would be. Maybe the filters in the Android camera are the same thing but those are after you've shot a photo so not really. There are in-viewfinder shadow and white balance sliders you can adjust before taking a photo if you tap the sliders icon beside the shutter button. But, again, I'm not sure if that's the same thing. So I'm going to skip the whole Photographic Styles path.
5:01 Intense path:
I already had Lightroom mobile installed and subscribed to it.
5:24 For formats, in the pro settings, you can pick just JPEG or JPEG and RAW. So, I turned on both. So when I take a picture, I get the JPEG file and the RAW file. RAW is not ProRAW, keep in mind. If I remember correctly, ProRAW is Apple's proprietary version of the RAW format. Everyone else uses RAW format. The point is, I now have JPEG and RAW files to work with.
5:52 No, I'm mostly in Android and Windows. So, I'm skipping the yes path here.
6:37 There's no JPEG-XL setting on Android so skipping that.
7:05 Yes, I shoot video. So, let's do this path.
The 8 Pro can do 4k60fps so that is now enabled.
7:19 Keep in mind that turning on 60fps disables the HDR settings so if you want HDR, leave it on 30fps. I don't like the look of HDR and I would rather get 60fps videos so I turned on 60fps. This is a personal choice thing and I'm pretty sure the Pixel 9 can do 4k120 with HDR. I am generation behind. That's why I have to pick one or the other.
7:44 Intense video path:
There isn't a ProRes setting on Android because that's an Apple thing but you can pick between H.265/HVAC and H.265/AVC. HVAC is a smaller file but may not be compatible with some stuff. I use AVC because stoage isn't a concern. I'd rather have compatibility.
9:53 You can adjust the shadows, white balance, saturation, ISO, ect before taking a picture by hitting the sliders icon beside the shutter button on Android. There aren't any "styles" presets which is what Photographic Styles sounds like, but you can adjust these settings in the Android camera before taking a photo. Then, after taking the photo, Google Photos gives you *all kinds* of adjustments you can make including filters and adjusting the look of said filters.
That's it, I think. Right? Even last year's Pixel can do most of what they're talking about here. Don't think you have to have the latest iPhone to do this stuff.
Can't explain how much I appreciate this. I was just wondering if someone could create this, thank you!
Edit: samsung has a feature called intelligent optimisation that, if set to maximum, can prioritise quality over speed.
That's great, you should make a video about it 👍🏼
But, the iPhone does it better than ANY Android.
Just 1 correction. ProRAW is just RAW. In fact it is computational RAW exactly like a Pixel does RAW, or most phones do RAW in 2024. There is nothing special about it compared to other premium phones.
@@robhughes8516 but then you need to get an iphone, and why would you do that
Vinh only appearing with warm lighting is perfect.
The studio channel is setting a bar high day by day ( just like the main channel). So much to learn from production perspective in every video. Thanks
For Vinh's part they have got Tyler Stalman on the iMac as its colour grading. Haha well played!
Dang it! I was about to comment on that.
This is the type of content I really enjoy. Simple and easy to follow, information made easy to receive. Love it!
Banger after banger video on this channel recently, great work yall!
Hell yes. I just upgraded to the 16 pro but felt like I needed to actually learn how to take photos with it instead of the usual autopilot. Great content
haha I can't believe they used David's confetti sound imitation 6:46
I think it’s an iMovie default
@@Lincoln_Online nope that sound came from David's mouth hahaha
Yeah, I could hear Andrew’s laugh after it too 😆
@@ellisrovin 😹 btw how did you get your job, I’m a aspiring producer and sound engineer and I would love some tips
You should add the R5 to the smartphone camera test for statistical data
so we can all see how a unheard smartphone from Vietnam for 99USD beats that one too ! :D
It will lose. An unedited photo from a camera will always lose to an unedited smartphone photo because the software on smartphone cameras is designed to output a photo that's already altered to be the most interesting to our contemporary aesthetics.
This was amazing, photography is a class act. Props to you gentlemen.
This is an awesome video and I specifically liked the camera settings portion of it. Would want to see this kind of a video for the upcoming Samsung S25 line up and may be a pixel one too. Also, would like to see this kind of a video as part of a series of videos wherein you, the experts, take us, the noobs through various settings not only for the auto settings but also manual shooting options wherein you can adjust a lot of input data.
HDR (Dolby Vision) has nothing to do with protecting highlights. It's a format that displays higher nit values on your screen. You might be mistaken with HDR photography which is exposure bracketing. Two very different things. Source: I'm a pro film colorist.
@Huttersvuur I use h.265 and post to instagram without any color grading. Should I turn on HDR or leave it off? And plz explain why, thanks
Casual content creator here, and I'm loving the turn toward educational content on this channel!
6:06 don’t focus on guy on the right
LOL
😂
Looks like a computer malfunctioning lol.
Studio channel has stepped up of late. I'm loving it. If the main channel doesn't start uploading more Studio might become my favoured one.
Wow, this was incredible! Thank you so much for your help. It really made a difference.
More of this please! Make David guess between real film photos and those from apps with emulations!
Great sound design and music choice!
oh shoot I posted this before the sponsor read lmfao
@@ggApollo Bro did a 180° turn!
The more I watch camera comparison videos the more I realize I'm getting very good at my craft. Thanks for the confidence boost, boys!
The studio channel is everything right now
Love this!! Keep this type of content coming!
Please include more of this pixel peeping in the phone reviews, its really informative
0:42 - Knowing Ellis, I bet he loved recording the keyboard folly himself for that text animation.
I can see the studio channel videos getting better and better thumbs up 👍 for that and we need more videos like this.
Whatever you guys are doing you’re doing it right
If you look closely on the x5 one, 2nd and 3rd have EXACTLY the same size in the sign. That’s bc both Samsung and iPhone have x5 lenses (which they shot in), versus the R5 who is slightly less zoomed in (they did it manually, not a x5 button)
Boy, that Samsung clicks are awesome!
Hardcore Real life usage !! Let's bring it on all devices!
That conclusion about pixel peeping is right - I've already taken plenty of photos and videos for work with the iPhone 16 Pro, and it's near-as-dammit good as a solid mirrorless cam unless you're looking very closely.
I think you keep preserve photographic style as you can get more functionality setting the default in the camera app and you can more easily change that when shooting. Has been working well for me.
Definitely a good video for the average consumer or a novice. What I think would be worth mentioning is that Apple's built-in photo's app can edit RAW photos pretty well. It's not going to be as feature-rich as Lightroom, but definitely gets the job done if all you're going to do is adjust levels.
Man you have to love the quality of these videos
Biggest take from this video is that a smartphone in the right hands can incredibly close to a camera that 99% people won't be able to tell. Goodjob!
For personal photos / small screen viewing
This video is awesome guys, I can really tell a lot of thought and effort went into this
I like the photographic styles this year. I have it set so that it doesn’t lighten the shadows so much, and I turned up the saturation a little.
Color Grading for the video looks so so good. I usually never comment but this one tempted me to.
I wish I could work on the studio team, but I am stuck on the West Coast. Love these nerds to no end!!!
I would love the same video covering the Pixel 9 series!
As technically involved and informative this test was, it was equally engaging with personality, color, composition and narration..great clip!
Excellent video new guys!😁 Nice to see that a quality large sensor camera can still produce better photos than a phone--THOUGH ONLY MARGINALLY these days. And only astute, camera-educated people can even see the difference. Kudos to both full-frame photography and tiny-sensor smart phone photography! They are both wonderful tools and each has its place.
David will say "I'll know when you shot with a phone" then proceeds to post the most fire photos ever made with an iphone on threads. Love you guys, this vid was incredible.
Bro how are you guys dropping niche banger after banger. Keyboard layout shorts, full in depth production vid. Wow.
I've come to love this channel more than the Marques Brownlee channel. Just matches my taste in content.
Love the breakdown between easy and intense use of the camera for iPhone!
That’s the most sound guy looking sound guy I’ve ever seen 😂 I like you guys a lot
This WHOLE video is incredible! A structured clear system that works and the paid ad I didn't feel like skipping dang!
We need regular uploads from this channel please ❤
I'm watching this on my A03 Core because my iPhone 8 Plus's battery hasn't been replaced yet, lol. I'm purely here for the entertainment, knowing I'll just do 4K 60fps everything - not to spite Marques, but because I love using 60fps in my personal (and very VERY soon, UA-cam) videos!
When I inevitably upgrade my iPhone, I'll go to 4K 120fps!
Edit: My iPhone 8 Plus is on 76% battery health, for reference. I just got a lightning charger, so now I can actually put it to use when the battery is replaced!
This is like the Dead Wax channel but for photography. Love it!
Photographic style is stored as a layer under the hood so you are always able to revert back to the default style later on with full raw info still available
Marques truly downplays his power levels.
From "Why Marques Brownlee is the spier man" to being a studio producer, we witnessed Eric grow!
Not that you asked me but, the new vibe of the studio channel has traded silly goofy for sexy intrigue and I’m here for it.
Yes to the video blind test! 😊
I would really appreciate an Android version of this video where you utilise androids strength: customizability. Like Motioncam which does RAW and LOG video on Android with video quality that way outperforms the iPhone. And with custom gcam apps you can edit every step of the processing pipeline, netting incredibly natural pictures that even when zoomed in don't have that smartphone look. Bit technical maybe but there are pre-made apps. I can get you in contact with the devs.
Just get an iPhone fam
miles your car is getting towed please go get it
@@CarswithMiles I have both! 🗿🔥🔥🔥
Totally this!
@@CarswithMiles Imagine being a tech journalist but not knowing that if you're willing to put in the effort (and granted, forgo some workflow efficiency) you can get wildly better image quality across the board. Just search on older android vs iphone log Motioncam. Or better, try yourself
NEEDED this from you guys !!
You guys seem to have wayyyy too much fun!!
I want Marques and David to do a photography and video competition 🙂 Would love to see a M vs D mini photography competition 🙂
❤ This was so fun to learn so I take better photos and videos on my new iPhone and this was so entertaining ❤
10/10 video.
This was a treasure trove of information! Keep it coming
I think a video like this but the camera comparison portion is with video samples from phones and a high end camera would be pretty cool as well.
Anything where most of or the whole frame is in focus, like a landscape shot, becomes really hard to tell if it's shot on phone or not. At least if it's processed correctly. All of these shots having some sort of clear subject totally gives it away though. But like if I shoot my 35mm lens at f8 and take a picture of a landscape, it vs a phone is super close.
Loved watching this!
I thought I was the target viewer for this video at first, I am a HUGE iPhone photographer. It’s one of the main reasons I carry my 13 mini around with me. And interestingly enough, one of your first points I really disagree with. Photographic styles is the feature I use most as I will do ANYTHING but post processing. It’s also like the only way to get somewhat more realistic colours because Apple’s default colour profile does not work with all colours (there never is a one size fits all) but I guess it might be just me because I never edit in post, only whenever I’m shooting. That’s why I’ll probably upgrade to the 16 pro thanks for all the new photographic styles and settings. Great vid anyways, thanks for the work!
Love the flowchart Idea
Can have somthing like this for another phone other than the Iphone next year, Please🙏?
Awesome video, just seeing how far smartphone cameras have come 😊
Did I just find my 2 new favorite people of the Studio team after Marques? I think I just did
The first part of this video should be a separate video with a more searchable title. Its really informative and helpful
It was an insteresting and in the same time fun video.
🤓 Love you guys!❤️
1:44 😂using a flowchart like format was so cool
pls make a blind camera Test for Videos
Personally think that the warm lighting during the guessing game looks very good
Im not sure if this is what stress testing means... LOL
They surely were stressing
@@DanielNavarrowo HA
So which has a good quality format, is it High Efficiency or Most Compatible?
Thanks so much for sharing this and i definitely can tell the differences between them. So MKB and David Awesome Video. 💯✌️
Are we getting this for the pixel camera??? and why haven't we given the phone has been out longer??
Tbh with the 5x images I just knew 1 would be the R5 because you've used a 24-70 and 5x is around 120mm on the iPhone :D
Another outstanding video - thanks team :-)
omg the content is just up and up on this channel
Fantastic video!🔥🔥🔥
16:55 What‘s with the music when halation is being explained 😂
BLIND CAMERA TEST PLEASE!!!! Let's make them do it guys. We also want you to film the most high-end MKBHD video you can with the iPhone 16 Pro Max. Then we want another one where you use the 3rd part lenses and see what cool shots you can get with those.
Rich rocking watch on both wrists 😍
if you did it with the iPhone you got to do it with time Samsung as well
like the new guys, great content!!
Fantastic timing. The phone arrive later today🎉
Uh ah, HDR will always stay off on my phone!
I don't particularly appreciate getting blinded by my home videos haha
but hdr is 10bit color and sdr is only 8bit color
The best cameras are the ones on the vivo x200. Please do a video with that camera too