Margaret Thatcher on Socialism
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- These brief exchanges took place during Margaret Thatcher's last speech in the House of Commons on 22 November 1990.
Read the complete transcript for this speech here:
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"I detest every one of your socialist policies and pity the people of East Europe that have endured them" *nervous socialist laughter*
"The trouble with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money"
- From an incompetent halfwit called Thatcher, 20 years before capitalism ran out of other peoples money to biblical proportions the likes of which we are still dealing with.
@@Nine-Signs Stop lying, that has never happened. Socialism has failed and bankrupted every country which has implemented that failed system.
@@thomashall4886 I'll be sure to tell that to the communist peoples republic of China whose wages have risen by circa 10% every year for the last 25 years straight while the rampantly unrestrained capitalist wests people have gotten poorer and in the UK thanks to 40 years of Thatchers neoliberal economic policies we are experiencing the greatest decline in living standards since 18 bloody 30.
It is not me who lives in a fantasy land my friend. Capitalism has decimated my nation and markets have asset stripped the majority workforce for the betterment of a handful at the top. That is the reality the UK faces today, among myriad other nations in this, the late stages of capitalism, that always was and always will be entirely incompatible with democracy which it prevents from entering into 70% of life spent at work and incentivises the corruption of what little remains.
Of course Thatcher either didn't see any of this and so was either too stupid, or did see it and was too weak and malevolent, to have stood up for her nation and people before the minority capitalist classes whom she has bent this nation and future generation from her point onwards, over a fucking desk for.
Now if you will excuse me, I have to figure out how to pay the greedy idle capitalist landlord half my income while trying to figure out how to keep the lights and heat on, despite working more hours than my parents. The gifts of Thatcher, one of the weakest leaders the UK ever had, and by God in heaven are we all paying for that today.
@@Nine-SignsAnd yet, you can still afford Internet. Feel free to move to Venezuela or Zimbabwe if you love socialism so much
@@ZeroResurrected What has affording the ever shrinking price of internet got to do with eating and how does affording the internet negate 40 years of stagnant to falling wages for the bottom 53% of the UK earning the same or less than their counterparts were 40 years ago despite working longer hours and having more people in work per household than their parents did.
And how are we better than Venezuela when we have masses of homeless people and they have built and given away or rent out for a peanut, 3 million homes in the last 5yrs alone.
"He would rather have the poor poorer provided that the rich were less rich." Nailed it.
That is not what was said. And making rich richer doesn't make the poor richer. Hence the gap he's talking about.
eschersky That's a direct quote. Go to 1:03. Did you actually watch the whole video?
That's what SHE says, and Hughes answers "No" as that's not what he meant.
But that is in essence what socialism does when implemented fully in societies like with eastern Europe and Russia or China. It's almost like todays generation needs a refresher on just how bad things get when social policies are implemented. It gives incentives for the poor to remain poor and get money from government for not working and punishes the wealthy and moneymakers by giving them pay more. And she was right, that is not how you create wealth and opportunity, nor how you create a republic and democracy that way.
eschersky No you idiot, it makes everyone poorer. How many times has socialism and communism failed for you far left idiots to get it. I think you people actually love tyranny and killing people but just won't admit it.
“And I hold his socialist policies with the same contempt as the people in Eastern Europe who’ve experienced them” lol savage
ah if only it were true. most people in the eastern block prefer communism to capitalism.
@@randomperson-pt3lv Don’t really understand why. Look at what’s it’s done to actual communist/socialist nations. They only prefer it now because they don’t know well the effects of communism and how it destroys economies, democracies, freedom, and opportunity.
@@t.k.1803 huh? bitch, they literally lived under communism and they overwhelmingly say they prefer it to capitalism. could it just be that the west has brainwashed you into believing that somehow communism isn’t freedom when 70%-80% that lived under it say it’s the ideal system lol?
@@randomperson-pt3lv I think we only have North Korea as a communist state now. The UK struggles to get the public sector down below 40% and China has a large private sector
@@wuddychunk1 no, there's also cuba and now bolivia. central america and the carribean have been trying to transition to communism for the longest, but every time they do, here comes america with a militarized coup.
And yes, there were a good time when politicians can debate like this, the two sides strongly disagree but still states reason and in a general good vibe. How can we achieve this in modern social media world, a question for us to reckon I reckon 🧐
"A socialist is always happy until the government runs out of money", Margaret Thatcher.
AND:
Unregulated capitalism in its effort to maxmise profits & remain competitive soon runs out of cheap/slave/child labour.
PS - Governments do NOT have money save for that which they have been mandated to spend by the electorate!!
itz4kix Governments do not have money save for that which they steal and extort from it's citizens; mainly the producers and innovators.
PS: You have never witnessed unregulated capitalism how would you know?
mb1076 EXCEPT THAT:
i] In countries with a strong sense of society & what it means [e.g. Scandinavian countries] they have high rates of taxation; that both rich & poor support & they do NOT consider taxation to equate to theft NOR extortion.
But of course U are a selfish nasty little T-Party/Randroid/libertarian bag-of-shit!!
mb1076
i] I suggest U take the time to look at how Scandinavian countries use their resources. Especially Norway; which socialised the proceeds of its oil revenue & invested it abroad [so as to avoid the inflationary issues that such wealth can bring]: & now uses but a small %age of the interest from said investment to provide socialised services for its people.
ii] Re: Tax. How can something that is GIVEN willingly be theft??
The only problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money!!!!
"The gaps are growing" are words I've heard slobbered out by mercedes marxists my whole life. Thatcher nails it here.
Only problem is the gap IS growing.
***** and that gives you the right to under the threat of violence empty the bank accounts of the wealthy?
The truth is that you are a lazy, immoral, narcissistic wretch, fueled only by envy like all leftists.
You can no longer claim to be on the side of the poor since those poor people suffer more than *anyone* under a controlled market. It's not about the poor, it's about *you* and your incapability to accept your own mediocrity.
Did you learn *nothing* from the 20th century? Google it you fucking idiot.
Such insight from 7 words. Is your middle name Nostradamus?
***** I've argued with enough collectivists.
Fistwagon I think the problem is a lot of socialists want a nanny state and not a progressive system of climbing the ladder. However I do agree with the mixed economic system it allowed me to go from poor , educate myself and become accountant and now working on my own business. Without that ladder a lot of intelligent people would be stuck in the lower end of society unable to use their ability. In regards to a controlled market . I Think human needs should be heavily regulated such as water etc, where as everything else should be free-market
the crown got me here.
Same, 'that accent can't be right' - oh wait
Dude me three!!! Agent scully did well!
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Same here. She’s my new hero lol.
@@jmack8767 for sure! That show is amazing
Iron Lady was a real and clever POLITICIAN!
Id love to see her debate sanders
She'd of killed sanders
You would? Well it's easily recreated. Just a throw a lion and a zebra in the same room.
I don't know about Europe, but in the US the rich have gotten richer at the expense of the poor and middle class. As the nation becomes wealthier it's people should gain purchasing power in proportion. Or are the working class unworthy?
I hope you don't attribute that to capitalism. Capitalism doesn't use lobbyists, in fact it forbids it. Are there lobbyists? Yes. Then what you have is not capitalism.
She might be talented at arguing, but that doesn't change the fact that what she sais is wrong and very contemptuous. If everybody had less, things would cost less, people could afford life at least as good as they do now. And if everyone had about the same, and not far less than one in hundred really much, the average perception of wealth would be alot better. It is really as simple as that, she was a liar.
Man see the respect they have for each other. Like a student trying to talk to a teacher. Even though, they highly disagree, they laugh, they whine but don't forget the honourable prime minister.
She was something!, she was seen just about everywhere!.
That's right
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She's in the mud, there's still no respect for that evil creature
However 'honourable' gentleman is tinged with sarcasm
@@happyloner4400 sarcasm is fun. Its a form humour.
If it wasn't for Margaret Thatcher Great Britain would be just a little island in the Atlantic. Here here Mrs. Thatcher. Indeed you were an Iron Lady. RIP.🇬🇧
She was a disgrace
God bless her!
*"There is no such thing as Karl Marx"* -
Margaret Thatcher, My Kitchen Rules
Thatcher and Reagan are receding into the past soon they will be nothing but ghosts. People wall ask Regan who? or Thatcher who?
Kim O'Brien Who the hell are you and what have you ever achieved? That’s right, nothing. Maggie will love on in the hearts of hard working British people forever.
@@whitedragon9731 Maggie will rot in hell
@Make UwU Great Again kool story brv
@Woodcuck communists actually killed a shit ton of nazis,, take a look at yugoslavia for example. try again :)
The problem with ALL socialism, is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.
Its the same problem which Capitalism suffers too. The poor no longer can line the pockets of the rich and so resession kicks in. Marxist Socialism doesnt need money.
Dave Davis
As opposed to unregulated capitalism which runs out of cheap/slave/child labour in its quest to maximise profits & remain competitive.
PS - are we back to some prick erroneously spamming-out posts they DON'T like??
Do you? I mean, that statement when Mrs Thatcher made it was a nice, snappy thing to say given the attitudes at the time towards the word 'socialism' with the Cold War. It also just so happened to fit very well with her views on austerity and market liberalization (the last one I agree with).
Are you saying that the NHS is inherently doomed to fail? There are problems with it right now, of course but that doesn't mean it's not have positive impacts. We get far more bang for our buck than say, the Americans when it comes to healthcare. What about a centralized military? I'm sure you're in favour of that (you'd be a bloody fool not to). Banking regulation?
It's a false dichotomy to suggest that there is a divide between capitalism and socialism, they're not exclusive and a system completely based on solely one or the other. It's all a question of "To what extent should the government be involved in national product?", and it's a debate that is obviously never going to be completely reconciled. I generally consider myself a moderate, and I hate stupid, snappy political phrases like that (they exist on both sides of the false dichotomy), even just minor analysis shows how simple minded and all around *stupid* it is.
itz4kix that is not true, low skilled labours will get paid poorly wherever they are located in the world. have you considered the fact that if nike didn't have sweat shops, these people would have NO jobs and would be even worse off. and who benefits from companies being competitive? the consumer. people get rich by making the consumer happy.
liam booth, you clearly do not understand what causes a recession, read up on basic economics. it's literally stuff you would learn in a level economics.
bigbobabc123
Since when has the ability to make clothing been low-skilled-labour?? [unless of course U also consider those that work in the car industry putting cars together to be low-skilled-labour??].
& NO: UNcivilised "sweat~shops" [with the most appalling working conditions & hours] are NOT a necessary prerequisite of US based sports clothing manufacturers having factories in Bangladesh etc. For having people work in such conditions is a CHOICE Nike make!! PERIOD!! I.E. the working conditions & pay could be greatly improved to standards that would be acceptable in the west & pay increased in relative terms so people do NOT have to work 16/18 hours per day on a single rate just to afford to live!!
As for the consumer: therein in lay the problem ~ cos it's DIRT~LIKE~U who care ONLY that U get cheap goods & NOT about the conditions that people [mainly women & children] work in to provide your cheap goods that are the real problem!!
Personally I'd have your kids & wife sent to Bangladesh/Vietnam to work in a nike hell~hole for a year!!
PS ~ do U mean "basic~economics" from a libertarian/objectivist perspective or from a New~Keysnsian-Economists perspective.
I.E. ~ Economics is NOT a science so there is NO one basic perspective.
That said: one major difference is that the former let the poor/unemployed rot whilst the latter think that helping such people is the civilised thing to do>
Although of course NO-one would accuse libertarian/objectivists &/or Ayn Rand of being civilised!!
Britain needs another Thatcher!
+neha doe yea Britain needs another prime minister to enact laws against gay people as thatcher did.
Brittan needs another prime minister who destroyed manufacturing all across the nation as thatcher did.
Brittan needs another prime minister to support a dictator who murdered tens of thousands of his own people(general pinochet) like Thatcher did.
Brittan needs a prime minister who refuses to have any form of dialogue with our enemies causing the continued and unnecessary deaths and the delay of any form of peace process as Thatcher did.
Brittan needs another prime minister to halve taxes on the rich and corporations as thatcher did.
Don't make me laugh.
+Luciano G Is your choice more important than your nation? Does mother nature make you get on your knees and take it?
Given the will of my nation has been to firstly accept gay people as equal human beings, and secondly to apologize for historic mistreatment of gay people such as Alan Turing, without whom you wouldn't be typing on a computer, I`d say my general being is with the majority. Welcome to 2016.
Thatchers choices destroyed the social fabric of this nation, was her choice to enact backwards laws on sexuality and lower taxes for millionaires and billionaires by 50% more important than her nations well being, no. But she did it anyway.
Was her choice to crush unions resulting in 30 years of stagnant wages and eroded work conditions more important than the nations well-being? no. but she did it anyway.
Was her removal of free milk from the poorest children in Englands schools for the nations well-being? no, but she did it anyway.
Was her deregulation of the banking sector, removing the separation of personal and investment banking that would offer fuel to the 2008 collapse good for the nations well-being? many said no then in 1987, but she did it anyway.
Was her friendship with a murderous dictator called General Pinochet good for the nations well-being? No, but she did it anyway,
Was her adopting of Milton Friedman's neoliberal economic model sound judgement and good for the nations well-being? No, it stripped wages, threw out manufacturing, replaced wage increases with cheap credit and blew apart within 35 years. Very FUCKING BAD for the nation. But she did it anyway.
You know nothing, not about me, nor about her.
Luciano G Your country will not be able to afford your "proper welfare state" much longer. You have a bad moon rising there. The visitors from the middle east will eventually outnumber you. They will then change your laws. You will then be forced to decide. Make it a wise one and good luck to you.
+akgeronimo501 we've had migration from the middle and far east for 50yrs. mulsim population is steady at less than 5 million. main birth increases coming from UK nationals over migrants.
as for our laws, your talking crazy if you ever believe sharia will come to England. They can't even have it across all the Muslim countries let alone a western one.
stop watching Fox news. pay attention to facts. the Muslim world has no desire, nor ability, to take over the western world. never mind the eastern.
"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."
Margaret Thatcher
Lara Hillcoast 🤔🙄
Nahh
Like giving money to death squads
@Black Patriot she was also the person who privatized housing
I feel as if she didn’t actually say that
Being that boss and based for a lady in the 80's, without all the third wave feminism and wokeness... A true Queen I'd say!
There was only ONE true Queen during Thatcher's premiership, and her names started with an E.
We need her now this country does
+Hippie Eradicator we need her to get rid of these spongers
+Tonino Iburria Don't feed the troll, folks.
Save us from David Cameron!
+Tonino Iburria LOL you already have them now.
+Andrew Dent (Aramius) He IS the troll.
I love the sense of fun they were having and how the Prime Minister was reacting with Parliament. We need this more. Regardless of who is in power, this is how we should debate. Now how we do it today.
"you would rather make the poor poorer" she says that like she didn't do the exact same thing
Ahh remember when MPs used to actually turn up to parliament to talk about things other than their expenses?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
feliscatchaus Signed Winston Churchill, the liberal, the tory, the 1000s dead at Gallipoli, the 1/8 Native American, the racist...the elitist...the man who thought every man 'less' than his delusional, alcoholic, egotistical, bigoted, self should know his place....the man who thought the million troops who DID NOT die in WW2, should once gain whistle for healthcare they couldn't afford to tend their war wounds. What a guy!!!! What a human being. What a fucking rotter, as Steve Jones used to say. Rule Britannia - the Roman God of bullshit.
And had Great Britain taken the Nevel Chamberlain method they would have never had to go to war ?. " peace in our time!" The most dangerous policy of the 20th century. Not unlike Obama 21st century.
That statement just shows what a crusty old bigot he really was.
@@theElasticJesuzfascist bastard. I would rather have an Empire than your communist “paradise”
Thatcher is the best thing to ever happen to England
+TrillBandit ID (FalseSense) The worst. Her history proves terrible. She made the rich richer and the poor poorer. She was a disgrace who sold her soul to money.
+TrillBandit ID (FalseSense) I would say Churchill (circa 1940) actually takes that title.
Agree, but her policies have allow the UK continued growth to this day. Her influence looms large.
Radek Buczkowski You're an idiot. You don't even understand the point, and where is your source for the 4 billion? It's not funny and proves that you're thick as shit.
+TheEpicGameHub Yeah she made the rich rich and the poor poor but it was because of her that Britain has the wealth it has today...but her true crime was blackmailing paedophile ministers so she could remain prime minister which the allegations were only unearthed half a decade ago during the Jimmy Savile outrage. Privatising some big public sectors of industry also dealt a blow as Britain isn't truly owned by Britain and instead owned by the rest of the world...and now there is the migrant crisis, which I fully agree with Vladimir Putin and I think Britain should be saying the same: "In Russia live Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslims then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law. Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture. We had better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims. When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslim minorities are not Russians."
those who never lived in socialism will never know it's benefits and freedom! So, don't judge the fruit that you never even try!
Reading most recent comments only shows the downfall of western society where most people don't see how her words are now even more true than when she spoke them.
Her policies are still causing problems today. Don't pretend she was good she was the opposite.
@@tonyclifton2230please get educated. The world is going to hell because of bottom feeders like you.
@@tonyclifton2230 I'm not a Brit, I only know her main views.
But if you say that her policies are still causing problems today name some.
@@micf4795 the fact that she financialised the country. Created a two tier country London and the rest. Unfortunately doing real harm to manufacturing but also the ability of the country to compete in manufacturing. She also privatised industries that were natural monopolies that only benefits the owners in those fields.
@@tonyclifton2230 What policies divided London from rest of country? What was the "real harm to manufacturing" when you say that outcome was also "abality of the country to compete in manufacturing"? What is wrong in privatisation when you clearly say it stopped monopolies? How on earth that last thing can "only benefit the owners in those fields"?!
You wrote about things that in your opinion are effects of her policies (maybe you are right, but I don't know these policies).
If privatisation in UK looked like in my homecountry (government sets up new CEOs and board and gives benefits for now theoretically "non government facilities") than yes, you are right in that last one, but if some rich guy or private company came with money and bought for example a still mill previously owned by government, you're dead wrong.
Economic freedom beats government safety nets and handouts every time.
+Jeremy Standiford What hand outs to bankers and the rich!
+grandslam1998 Quite. Thatcherites are always going on about how much they hate the nanny state for the poor. What about the enormous nanny state for the super-rich? -recently, all the banks and privatised utilities which got us into this mess and have received a substantial part of the GDP to keep them afloat?
My bruv used to work in a supporting role in the City of London, and he says all the bankers should be arrested as economic terrorists
+grandslam1998 - Have you ever once formulated an original thought, Bernie supporter?
grandslam1998 I don't support handouts to rich bankers either. Out of all the powers that be, I hate the banks the most.
+splinterbyrd That's called statism, free market ideas do not support any form of handouts, bailouts et cetera, only out for a bad business is bankruptcy.
Wish we had politicians like that In america. Then again, I wish we had no politicians at all anywhere.
She’s got charisma.... kind of Reminds me of Reagan
They’re from the same stock. True heroes, that actually helped all people.
@@jschapp77 if by "all" you mean the 1% then you correct for both
Yeah because she destroyed the UK the same way Reagan destroyed the US
@@Simon-tc1mc bullshit
difference is that the uk sees thatcher for what she was while the us still perpetuates the myth that reagan was a good president.
my dad was much richer under her government compared to the Labour government before that
What a lucky guy. Most people were much poorer.
@@katzy3798 Untrue. As she stated and is factually correct, all income brackets were higher at the end of her term rather than at the start. Dont spread lies around here. And dont do the same "but relatively". Yeah I'd rather have the poor and the rich richer, than the poor poorer and rich poorer.
@@lepathewarrior4445 Income brackets may indicate a growing economy but hey don't correlate with poverty and inequality here. Under thatcher Unemployment in the UK hit levels that were the highest they had been since ww2 (and may still be the highest since ww2 depending on 2020 covid numbers). Inequality and the amount of people living in poverty had the greatest increase under any PM in the last 50 years. Here's the data www.theguardian.com/politics/datablog/2013/apr/08/britain-changed-margaret-thatcher-charts
economic growth and low inflation rates do not mean that people are able to afford the cost of living. Thatcher made the rich richer and the middle class and poor poorer, and this is supported by evidence.
Proves her statement correct.
Just noticed John Major sitting behind her
Europe needs a Thatcher.
Andrei Samiir WHAT?? so U mean Europe needs:
someone to facilitate a debt-economy that's over reliant upon the financial services industry [that makes "unreal" profits on the basis that the interest to be repaid in the future can be used to facilitate further borrowing & lending that makes further "unreal" profits on the basis that the interest to be paid in the future can be used to facilitate further borrowing & so on] 'til it all goes TITS-UP as in 2008!!.
Hmm........... me thinks that is the very opposite of what is required!!
Andrei Samiir Europe needs its old political leaders back
Except for Stalin and Hitler
Europe is full with Thatchers. Nearly everyone is a carbon-copy.of her😁
The US needs one too. We haven't had a President fight for Classical Liberalism since Reagan.
Maciek Pieniążek and Mussolini?
This was so much more animated than today, where everyone is trying to be overly PC and polite, even when giving insults.
Who's here from Theresa May?
lol me
this woman gives me the creeps.. hope May is nothing like that
Thatcher saved the UK.
She is exactly like that in deportment and gait and standing at the Despatch Box.
no, she destroyed one of the only working instances of socialism which raised people out of poverty and created institutions such as the NHS and British steel which created jobs and routed work place exploitation
Deep Heat yes but with the mining industry and other forms of production gone all we have is banking in the south and if their is an economic crash we will be hit harder as we have little to export
In China, we call her "The Iron Lady", although the two contries may have different views of interests but she is a great woman worth great respect
+TheCoreycoyle The Left showing their "moral superiority" as always.
+Bane who says I'm left?
You're not fooling anyone.
Coreycc even if you hate her and don’t like her politics a bit of common decency doesn’t got astray.
@@lac3y1988 Except they are the most immoral.
Throughout the entire video, I just found myself smiling, when the lady came ot speak. You simply can not rival her views and opinions. They are simply common sense. Very intelligent woman. She saved this country going down the same road France, Greece and Spain have done. May she rest in peace
Oliver Newell Except for he homophobic anti-gay views.
+Tamila Um, it is.
Tamila Yes, in the dictionary, that is the definition of homophobia. That's a given.
Homophobia can mean an intense hatred of gay people to the point of committing violence against them or believing they should not be allowed to marry / adopt etc. That is homophobia, too. It might not be the definition, but that is part of it.
+xPokemonPlayerx That's part of common sense.
+LKJM 15 you have commonsenseaphobia
Great example of a woman standing up for herself with poise, facts, and a firm stance. She had them eating out of her hand. I recall in an interview with Meryl Streep, she said that in her research of Thatcher, she uncovered how she learned about public speaking. Apparently, Thatcher had discovered that when a woman tries to raise to her voice to address the room, she often becomes shrill, and is subsequently ignored. It's a turnoff to audiences. She had to learn how to project her voice properly, which was very effective in this video. One can see that she got louder without getting shrill or rushed.
Her strawman of his argument helped too.
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She's in the mud and hopefully she suffered.
@@katzy3798 His argument had no feet. The gap between the lowest 10% and the Highest 10% is not a meaningful stat. If everyone is getting wealthier the rich getting richer isn't important. Does Leonardo DeCaprio owning a yacht prevent you from affording your rent?
If his point was that inflation was growing greater than the wages of the bottom 10% then he would have a fucking point.
Discarded such a meaningless statement with an equally meaningless statement is pure brilliance. He brought nothing to the table and was shooed away rapidly.
She was a slag
Pretty good analysis, the louder we bark the less impactful our speeches are
In front of news cameras, the retired prime minister firmly told the former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, "It was you who brought democracy to Chile."
What The Context? Well She Was Right!!!!! Chilean President/Leader Augusto Pinochet Did Bring Back Prosperity And Democracy Back To Chile 🇨🇱 He Turned The Chilean Economy Around!!!!! He Made Chile 🇨🇱 Into One Of The Most Prosperous Countries In South America!!!!!
nothing is more democratic than organizing a coup to overthrow a democratically elected government to install a military dictatorship
Am I ok to use 6 seconds of this clip for my university project? Between 0:56-1:02? Obviously I will credit it at the end of my project as 'footage by: 'mynameiswhatever'.
1:22 the reaction LMAO
How else should one act when being strawmaned?
We went from this brilliant woman and pure exchange to a president that reads a few words off of a teleprompter and then turns and runs away as fast as he can so he doesn't have to answer questions.
Brilliant Woman? She deregulated the building industry and now there is a multilevelled housing crisis - how did that one work out
@@richardstevens8839 calm down. I'm not referencing policies at all. I'm American and my statement was a heavy criticism towards our current president who doesn't have the balls to stand in front of opposition and take them on as she did in this video. He's a parasite that reads scripted sentences (barely) And then runs away to avoid any engagement.
@@richardstevens8839 Conservatives will forever blindly worship their idols.
@@krw73 That's much better than this blood sucking scum will ever be.
We went from a prime minister to a president??
Thatcher was the best British PM since Churchill.
She did a great job on flipping the guys words around.
VoztokTV idiot. Let me guys 4 years on you wear a guy forks mask and have JC4PM in your facebook bio
10/10 strawman.
As an American, I say bravo to the peoples of England for putting that woman in a position of power.
the majority of the population hate her
Dylan Palmer Can I ask you a few questions on US Industry in the 80s? Did Ronald Reagan privatise the Springfield Armoury?
Did he Sell off General Motors & other premium brands to your rivals overseas?
Did he try & screw Steelworkers in Pittsburgh, by stopping subsidies, etc?
Did he view coal-miners & associated persons within that industry scumbags & communists?
This is what Thatcher did to Britain & no not everyone liked her because of what I've listed. She got in due to the incompetence of Labours militant & uncontrollable behaviour, that's why. If they were centralists like in Blairs government, she'd of never had gotten in, in May 1979.
Dylan Palmer. i am american. you dont represent our opinions.
Dylan Palmer same here, she was an amazing soul. She is no thing close to Obama or Clinton.
John Smith well you want your opinion heard, then hit the voting booth and not the message board over your displeasure.
Thatcher was a sharp-witted, quick-on-her-feet orator. Half the US feels Dementia Joe is in the same league. Think about that.
@Nathan Hoffman He sure did. But at least it was after he resurrected Jimmy Carter's misery index and got things back on track. Biden is still in the beginning and he's already blown past Reagan's worst confusing days on the job.
yeah thatcher was also a murderer that was disowned by her own party so maybe joe biden and her have more in common than you think
@@carlosalvarez4546 internet man accuses prime minister of murder. next week: ethnic cleansing and child sodomy.
@@UDPride margaret thatcher destroyed britain's manufacturing industry which led to mass unemployment and funded death squads in northen ireland. i don't understand how anyone could like her unless they've been trapped in an echo chamber their entire lives and have never heard anyone from scotland or ireland talk about thatcher.
@@carlosalvarez4546 If only GB could have maintained the roaring economy and crime-free life they had just prior to Thatcher's ascension. It was going so well and felt like the industrial revolution.
This is like a family dinner, so much fun. Hehe
She's absolutely right.
Totally not. So richer less rich and poorer more poor right? We would require less money pumping through the economy for that to happen...The money stays the same however the distribution changes! E.g higher the tax on the richest percentile and reduce it on the poorest which will lead to a more equal and fair society where the range is limited but fair to the public. Same amount of money in the economy, different distribution.
Lennie Weed
Difference is that Socialists usually don't stop there. They don't stop until the wealthy aren't wealthy anymore and then every citizen becomes a burden, production plummets and no production = no money. This is what has happened in every single Socialist country, including mine.
ParamoreVzla Why do you think there would be no production?
ParamoreVzla She was a warmongering bitch.
Oh fuck off. The fact that you're buying into this shit is pathetic.
As an American, I really get a kick out of Parliamentary behavior (behaviour?) vs. that of the U.S. Congress. It's not really reflective of any greater degree of integrity or courtesy in the States, especially since I think our current Congress is an open sewer of corruption, bribery, indifference, and nefarious duplicity unmatched in Britain. But our senators and representatives are more polite, and NEVER shout out at a speaker, and would be considered out of order and disciplined for doing so. In Parliament, it's really hilarious, a total shouting match and trading of insults. Otherwise, the Brits are so much more held in and polite than Yanks. Go figure. Would love to fly across the Pond to Londontown to sit in on a session or two. The accents alone would keep me mesmerized for days.
Yeah they're their own hive of scum and villany. Look up the start of supreme court sessions/cases they have the same vibe with the clerk or whoever doing a silly chant.
Usa is third world
@@cca9837 And yet here we are still superior to your country. Our country is being destroyed from within by design, regardless my country will be storied and spoken of for time immemorial as having scaled the heights In every possible arena. As a Native American I am both proud and humbled whenever it comes to mind. 🇺🇲
@@TvshkaHumma Western Europe, Japan, Australia > USA
@@TvshkaHumma Chill bro, only Europe and Asia matters in history. The new world is yet irrelevant in the big picture
She stopped me getting my milk at school and she stopped me getting a job when i left school.My hate for that woman is still real and always will be.
Any person who say conservatives hate women.... I am extremely conservative and think thatcher is a bad ass. Period
30 years later even the Chinese and Russians now agree with Thatcher.
IMAO
My Dad bought his first home under her government a strong woman not to be walked over.
Daisy Taylor Jones she broke down the class barriers.
If you can't generate the wealth, you have nothing to redistribute.
The socialist wish to share the poverty rather than the wealth. They want to share the misery rather than the joy.
Thatcher represented freedom, responsibility and human potential. I am grateful for her service to the nation and the fight against socialism.
Thing is, and has always been, the elites in charge in a socialist system live like royalty while the “peasants” should be grateful and shut their mouths.
Here's the thing. Pure capitalism doesn't work. That's why governments created regulation laws to prevent an absolutely free market. However, too much regulation makes businesses suffer and hinders the economy. There's a sweet spot, and the hardest part is staying there without getting too much corruption.
darkwoodmovies Free market doesnt work? Have you heard ''consumer choise''? FFS people like do not understand economy at all.
Dumping waste in rivers is not economic freedom.
Even though the company might 'own' the land the river flows through, the land actually belongs to the state that holds that territory.
People living on a piece of land form a nation; the nation self govern through a state. The land, through the power of the state, belongs to the people the state represents.
As it is the core function of the state to uphold the rights and freedoms of the people, the land and river is the collective property of the people, and must be protected by the state.
No private entity have the right to proclaim total independence from the state that they operate within.
Do not confuse anarchy with capitalism.
normaali capitalism doesn't work. because it's wrong system. Marx explained why market is wrong. people are not just egoists-individualists, we depends on society. history of capitalism is a history of colonialism. that's why there's a lot of countries in world which are poor - they have been slaved by capital in colonial epoch...
What a brilliant parting speech! Socialists don't want to reward individual endeavour and commitment - "I do not know anyone who has got to the top without hard work. That is the recipe."
literally the royalty
Tell that to the office janitor next time
The way she explained the gap using had gestures was amazing
She dedeciated her life as prime minister to push nation to fit in into modern era, she was Great and beautiful prime minister.
This is probably her best summary of all those 11 and a half years.
RIP Thatcher. A true patriot. I wish we had someone like her in Ukraine.
Yup! Both solid defenders of fascism!
She made life a living hell for working class families. My Grandfather was driven into deep depression because of her. She had not one thought for the families who lived nights without electricity or heat due to her shutting down the mines without giving them any new or alternative jobs to compensate. The mines were more than just jobs, entire social communities were built around them and brought people together. She is the worst PM ever to be a part of parliament!
Ragsy x I find it ironic that liberals criticize Thatcher for shutting down mines. In the United states it is liberals today, including Obama who have declared war on coal. Does that mean Obama is no different than Thatcher.
joe cole I find it ironic that you fail to differentiate between Anthropogenic Global Warming and ideology.
joe cole To be honest, I don't give a fuck about a foreign countries' politics. All I care about is the welfare for the public for MY country and Thatcher never once thought about how her policies affected mining families and their lives. You don't have the biggest mass protests in your country's history for nothing!
November 22nd 1990, Undertaker’s debut at Survivor Series.
She was absolutely correct and it happened here under Reagan and also under Bush Clinton lower taxes meant more revenue
Monsters are real.
+Robert Hudson
Best monster.
U are so right!!
Furthermore: the banking sector could have gone from ZERO-to-HERO by collectively taking responsibility for the financial meltdown. Thereafter choosing to forego their bonuses for five years [especially since those that get said bonuses are already fabulously wealthy] to then lend said billions of pounds worth of foregone bonuses to cash starved businesses to help reinvigorate the economy.
But of course these loathsome creatures prioritise the lining of their own pockets!!
Respect to The Iron Lady. 👊
May her soul rest in peace.
@@kerouacist Sorry Mr. Socialist, but she was one of the best leaders the UK ever had.
@@kerouacist I'm in my 40's, well over the age to remember her. I did not live in England, however I am Greek and experienced what the socialists did to Greece. You should be grateful the socialists weren't able to break her and get what they wanted or else my friend your nation would have had the same fate as Greece did 10 years ago.
Socialism is nothing but a cancer to the world.
Socialism is for the people not the Socialists...
@@kerouacist Hitler may have hated communists but he did lead the Nationalist Socialist Party which effectively made him a socialist. Just because he hated communism wouldn't make him a "Right Wing" leader. In conclusion, Hitler was a socialist and Hitler has nothing to compare with Thatcher's economic policies.
See what I meant by socialism being a cancer? Socialist Hitler and his plans of world domination, Stalin with his aspirations of dominating Europe after the war, the traitorous Leftists in Greece who declared a civil war on their own countrymen after WWII with the purpose of greedily taking power by force...
Accept it, socialism is a cancer...
As for Greece being an ally of Nazi National Socialist Germany, you're wrong. Greece fought both Italy and Germany when they invaded Greece, and my great uncle was executed at the age of 15 by the Nazis because he was part of the resistance on Mount Olympus. Allies you say? I say re-read your history my brother.
DING DONG THE WICKED BITCH IS DEAD
ITS A SHAME THE BITCH DIDNT DIE 87 YEARS AGO
@@rubbr8577 stfu
Why does the House of Commons value the quality of banter over rational response?
"He would rather have the poor poorer, provided that the rich were less rich." Thatcher sure showed some skill in giving a negative spin on a reasonable question there.
That is what the question implied -- that the gap was a bad thing, even if the poor were better off than before. His complaint was about the gap and how someone compared to someone else, and not about whether or not an individual had improved his own situation over time.
I've listened to it again, and you're right. Thatcher's rebuttal was very apt. I'm not sure however, this was what the MP meant to say, because he seemed to disagree strongly with her. Anyway, that ought to teach him to choose his words more carefully next time.
Reasonable?
Labour created 13% unemployment and 17% inflation. Thatcher lowered it to 5% unemployment and 4% peak inflation.
The questions were stupid .
We live in a socialist country though so I'm not sure what your point is!?
We provide government handouts to the unemployed, disabled and especially bankers. This is socialism. Please show yourself the door.
my favourite quote is :there is no such thing as public money but only tax payers' money'
A social democracy is no democratic socialism. Most European countries are social democracies.
Thatcher is her classy, indominable way told her opposition they literally were *pricks. Brilliant.
As a pakistani-American, I whould be happy if both of my countries where in the control of the British again if it meant that someone like her was prime minister again
*Ouch!* We (USA) need someone like Thatcher right now
you have Trump. what's the complain?
@@houssamassila6274 Both as bad as each other
so does uk.
@@houssamassila6274 He’s not a legislator
@@roidetesreves2298 so?
She was straight forward great!.
NOV. 2020.
Dude, you dont need to put the date below your comment, this is UA-cam, we know you made a comment 11 months ago
Britain needs her once again
No they bloody don't - we've got enough problems without...
Only the Iron Lady can bend the hammer and sickle
What a graceful women who stands on her views and amazingly debates the other side ,so rare for a politician Uk was lucky they had her
She was a hideous excuse for a human being. Evil personified.
The UK hasn't yet recovered from her corporate welfare. With that kind of luck, best stay away from casinos. After all, casino capitalism and conservative deregulation is the reason for every market crash since her reign.
Woman, there was only one of her.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 yes and she’s dead. Hooray.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 Thank goodness for that! 'Shame there was that many!
Neither Socialism or Communism would exist if everyone took responsibility for their actions, decisions and situation.
Her argument is purely based on the poor being less poor but she forgets to answer for the increasing gap. Populism at its finest.
What gap?Absolute poverty worldwide and the UK has been declining since the 1900
Yeah you know who argued the same thing; adolf hitler, your hero.... socialist POS.
Dear God we need an Iron Lady right now.
Now it's the top 1% being better off than the 'lower' 99% rather than the top 10% being better off than the 'lower' 90% as was then.
Flaming Flashback there has always been and always will be a "wealth gap" in the world. Some people are smarter, harder workers, or just plain more lucky than others. Stop being jealous. Just be happy and proud to be alive. I'm speaking as someone who is lower middle class but living on less than I make so the family can be out of debt and happy to be alive.
STOP BEING ENVIOUS OF THOSE WHO ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN YOU! Stupid socialists, my goodness it must suck to be you...
@@dcarts5616 socialists don't go bankrupt over medical bills
Imagine Thatcher leading the Brexit-negotiations...
yeah this shit would have been dealt with immediately
No deal, hard brexit. Hands down.
Just look at the US right now. Britain may have shitty pandemic leadership and response, but our wanna be Reagan is fucking up our economy worse then yours. Just watch us fuck ourselves over and enjoy the show. No doubt we would watch the UK do the same if the witch (honorably a witch, she did in fact utilize girl power against the patriarchy) was reincarnated.
She was actually liking the EEC, though the EU didn't exist until 1993.
@@katzy3798 you are so stupid
Even as a Scot raised in Glasgow, she has a point.
Keep been brave. Been right is better than been popular.
Don't say that out loud.
Privatise the NHS, abolish welfare and rebuild Hadrian's Wall.
Absolutely spot on Maggie. Everyone should see the state the country was in the 70s. No PM before or since had the guts to make the big changes and stand up to the trade unions holding the country to ransom. Even Tony Blair admitted her reforms were the biggest reason for Britain's economic success in the 90s and early 2000s.
Even though the 80s had mass unemployment? I've heard more negative things said about Thatcher than anything positive
So much so he did exactly the same and allowed 5 times earnings to be borrowed on mortgages,so much for the labour party,hence the Tory Blair monica!
@@masterknife8423 that is because you live in a filter bubble and because PC culture and toxic feminism blames everything on capitalism and that there is a delusional smear campaign in regards to conservatism. Furthermore, "you have heard." Well maybe start thinking on your own.
Legendary …. Simply Legendary
She was correct the money does run out
18k poors think they are rich
18k poors have a better bottom line than those 100 years ago
The problem with Capitalism is that the .0000001% will eventually have all of other people's money.
Nonsense. Wealth is not a fixed pie.
Which never happened and never will. But I see you're talking about socialist North Korea, Cuba and all those other commie nation where the 0.0000001% had all the wealth of the people.
TheNoraa890 Check out anarchist spain.
Just is just....classic. It's timeless. What a remarkable woman she was. Margarette, R.I.P. I hope to meet you one day on the other side, so I can finally shake your hand. Reagan too.
Not a fan of politicians, couldn't trust any of them, but Thatcher was on point about socialism.
As always, it all depends about what you think a word represents. Pure socialism is pure evil (USSR, Mao's China, etc.). But do you think it got better since Thatcher? Despite her speech, it seems poor became endlessely poorer and rich became endelessly richer... and evading taxes... Not what I call a success.
@@riton1112 id say that the USSR was facist tbh, they did the exact same shit as the nazis, spun ethnic cleansing as if it was neccesary to lower class hierachy, the irony behind this is you need pretty fucking extreme class hierachy to setup systems of ethnic repression
and class hierachy is like the ultimate anti socialistic thing
@@riton1112 their idea of the "new soviet man" is litterally just the "übermench" with another aesthethic, hell they were both also based upon lamarckist evolutionary theory, the anti-cosmoplotianism sounds a fuckton like what the far right say when they say they are anti-globalism too, all in all the USSR was never really socialist, neither was maos china, i mean its not like its the workers who own their workplaces and thus their production, under the USSR or under maos china, which means they werent socialists, but just state capitalists, same with Hitler he was a state capitalists too, however the way he took control of workplaces wasnt through direct state ownership of the economy, but instead with forcing corporations to follow their party line down to the speck and thus creating indirect state ownership of the labour market, which is anti socialistic, as socialism demands that the labour market is owned by workers, not people controlling the workers
This little clip gets right to the heart of what is wrong with socialism. It should be required viewing in every high school.
She completely (and perhaps deliberately) misses the point. Her "rather have the poor poorer" riposte is a very fine way to twist it, but Thatcher is representative of a system that only uses the poor so as to support the rich.
This woman is a genius may she rest in peace
Limelight Raver Out of the top ten happiest countries in the world the majority are socialist. If you think not do enough research.
@@michaelgrant169 just no haha
Hahaha she rotting in hell with Reagan.
@@Luca-nu2zg For hating poor people
@@Luca-nu2zg saving the UK from what? Those peasants asking for decent wages?
What does "liberal policy" mean in her speech?
Notice that those green leather seats are rammed full.
Some days there.are less tha 11 or 12 of our highly paid politicians in there. Absolute no way Mrs Thatcher would tolerate that!
Her argument is based on a fallacy that inequality somehow results in more economic growth. Not to mention that her justification is completely wrong. During and after her government, poverty increased while real wages and productivity have increasingly diverged from each other, with real wages lagging behind. Saying that average income has increased since 1979 means nothing if you are trying to ascertain the income and living standards of low income earners and in addition we don't even know if she's giving us nominal or real (adjusted for inflation) data. I wanted to watch this video to see what one of the most famous neo-liberal politicians had to say against socialism, but only found a simplistic and baseless argument that I might expect at a pub.
she is right. Inequality brings more wealth because not everyone is equal. Trying to make it equal means bring winners down so those who are not that successful can go up. Equality also leads to the lowering of standards and hiring quotas.
@@Nelcomarproductions How is she right? Take a look at some measure of inequality, such as the Gini coefficient, and tell me that inequality brings more economic growth*. It doesn't at all, in fact the most economically developed economies are among the most equal. Even in terms of economic growth, which isn't necessarily a great indicator of living standards, the simplistic neo-liberal argument falls apart. If you take into account a more multifaceted measure of living standards that includes, among other things, life expectancy, homicides, mental illness and social mobility. You will find that there is a remarkable correlation between equality and high living standards**.
* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
** ua-cam.com/video/cZ7LzE3u7Bw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TED
She just makes so much sense! How can you oppose what she's saying here?!
+WeMuckAround Liberals have NEVER needed facts on their side to believe what they believe. Socialism is an emotion-driven philosophy that requires little thought. That's why it appeals to non-thinkers and pseudo-intellectuals who believe THEY can make it work...despite going against all human nature and history.
+WeMuckAround Because it's never as simple as this light banter makes it seem.
No you nut case. She, like all people, put socialism under one category thinking that socialism is all about government. This nonsensical simplification only comes from the unsophisticated. Leninism supports government, anarchism rejects unnecessary authority and they both are factions of socialism, but totally different.
Jc Knight Liberalism isn't Socialism. Do people really not know the terms they throw around anymore?
Jc Knight Liberals just let things carry on as they are! Without a fuck given to the poor! How can you criticise socialists for being no thinkers who contradict human nature (actually, human history shows that to be false, but keep swallowing the Thatcher pills) when they fight justly for a fairer system?
At the time many people of the Eastern bloc countries were getting rid of their socialist utopias. I agree with Thatcher. A socialist country is more egalitarian, everyone is poorer in it, except for a tiny minority at the top overseeing it all.
When politicians used to argue as adults.
She made the poor poorer and the rick richer so she lies, all you people who aren't from UK haven't got a clue. I'm from the UK and thats what she done for example she destroyed LIVERPOOL and MANCHESTER making them poorer, she also lied about the Hillsborough disaster, saying the fans where pick pocketing the dead fans and fighting police when they were trying to save each other.
She made people richer in Kent, everyone loves her in Kent. All you dumb idiots in the north can get fucked, you're all pack of dumbass. Everyone knows!
TheNoraa890 Boy, you're funny! Is that Kent, Texas?
***** Funny because the only people who hate her are dumb poor fucks in the north of England, London and Scotland.
Kent is probably the best and smartest county in Britain.
Most people in the south of England benefited from her policy.
She saved us from turning into shit like the other commie poor european countries like Spain, France, Greece and Italy.
And she helped defeat the soviets and bring down the Berlin wall.
Shut up you fucking idiot!
how are people who hate her dumb fucks they hate her, its not like they hate her for no reason you like her because she benefited you. people like me don't like her as she destroyed are community making us struggle, for example shutting down all the factory's in Liverpool giving people no work. and then slate us for the facts we don't get a job
Socialist and communist aren’t about making a more equitable society. They are about power and control.
Yes. Power and control in order to make a more equitable society.
@@mpampispappas5131 we don't need some busybody bureaucrats or elected officials telling us what equitable should be.
@@devonmartinski6596 Well the point is for them not to be busybody bureaucrats
Mpampis Pappas good intentions are noble but what matter are results. The good intentions of socialism and communism are never the results, quite the opposite actually.
Exactly..
It's what's in THEIR best interest and the more power you grant the better off THEY are. Keep ignoring history sheeple.
Thatcher was off on many topics and many things she did was bad for the people in UK ... but damn she nailed the socialists during her period in office. This point she made here actually started to make me question myself (back in the day as a young teenager) if socialism really was a utopia as it was portraid.
Toryism equals Imperialism
This is not Conservatism