Jim Cornette on AEW's New Rules & Restrictions For Talent
Вставка
- Опубліковано 17 лип 2023
- From Episode 491 of the Jim Cornette Experience
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
Send in your question for the Drive-Thru to: CornyDriveThru@gmail.com
Follow Jim and Brian on Twitter: @TheJimCornette @GreatBrianLast
Join Jim Cornette's College Of Wrestling Knowledge on Patreon to access the archives & more! / cornette
Visit Jim's official site at www.JimCornette.com for merch, live dates, commentaries and more!
You can listen to Brian each week on the 6:05 Superpodcast at 605pod.com. - Фільми й анімація
Watching their fans lose their minds over this is so satisfying and shows how little they actually care about their favorite wrestlers well being.
Donate "DUMMY" Martin anyone??
No more spike piledrivers from the apron?
How will they keep getting all the no name indie scrubs that their fanbase demands?
@@Goosemcqueenoh no they might have to learn how to do a collar and elbow tie up 😂
@@megsleydon't forget how to do a drop toe hold
Everyone still cheers the ECW days, or crazy Foley bumps, nobody actually cares about people, they just want to be entertained.
AEW getting rules, is like Brian Cage getting tested for steroids. We’re way past that point
Lol
You think The Machine is really on the juice? I was wondering..
😂 he's natty bro
@@_meangreenjersey973 just like The Rock! Never took so much as an aspirin, i bet
:p
Or any big wrestler for that matter.
No bleeding unless your allowed or told to? Well that’s Moxley’s career over haha
Moxley was bleeding while reading the rule
Doubt it. He'll probably get permission. He is a favourite.
No Moxley has written permission to bleed; written in his own blood.
Isn’t that the only move he knows though?
Dont give us Hope
This is obviously someone at Warner Brothers Discovery who went "look if you want to stay on our networks, there's some guidelines you're going to have to follow" because theres NO FUCKING WAY Tony Khan came up with this 😂
"Sports based product" -
Tony Khan 2019
A lot of this is overused in AEW, to the point where most of it's lost its impact.
Calming shit down might make certain spots seem more important/ devastating if they're not beaten to death.
Agreed. Joe power slamming Roddy in the chair seemed like a huge deal!
@@Nediablo right. You get desensitized to it if it's constant
Did you watch Collision? A top-rope superplex in the FTR vs. BC Gold match made the entire arena jump out of their seats.
Sometimes, less is more.
@@notgonnapay i did, and it was great.
I think it might be too little to late for AEW
Moxley can’t bleed anymore? “Oh the horror!” 😂
That's not dope!
He still will. I'm sure the "rules" only apply to some of them.
His "that time of the month" is the entire month. He will bleed for sure
I worked at an indie in NC that was open about having a "rule book". Even had the rules posted on their website, so the local fans would know. Promoter was strict about it, too... Saw a brother break one of the rules, without clearing it with the booker & when he got back thru the curtain, the promoter cut a promo on him for 20min before shit canning him on the spot. The Cowboy would be proud, as JR would say...
Damn I miss old school pro wrestling.
AEW tries so hard to not be WWE that it forgets WWE still does a lot of things right.
Just wait and see:
Chris Jericho,Kenny, Buckaroos and Moxley will disrespect the list in every match, because they are immune.
I read "because they are immature". I guess both works
@@RelifordAgree!
Immune of punishment and Immature to follow rules.
That Blood and Guts match will send this list of rules go straight to hell and will be a big "Fuck You" to the network and their Medical Team.
I like that he actively included *_skewers_* in a list of banned weapons, because that never would've been in anyone's list of wrestling weapons until one guy's dumb idea for a spot...
Every single rule has an incident behind it that Jim and Brian have talked about lmao
This was REALLY enlightening. He has been letting everyone do whatever they've wanted for almost four years. Jericho, Moxley, Omega, the Bucks, etc. have all been telling him that he needs to give everyone "creative freedom" and he's let the company run away from him. Now it's catching up to him. I'll bet that the network is cracking down on it right before they renew them. Wow.
Last night's Dynamite seemed like a big FU to whoever thought up and is trying to implement these rules. That or this was some weird last hooray for the extreme era. That main event looked like a G.G. Allin show.
@@rl318blood and guts? That match was great
@@Dooodeeeeaintfreee That match was such a mess two of the participants walked out. It was overbooked, late '90s backyard wrestling, so it was good if you like that sort of thing.
@@Dooodeeeeaintfreee it wasn’t though
Pretty sure someone at the network probably decided to finally sit down and actually watch a full episode or two to see what they were putting on their TV. That would also explain why the list goes a bit overboard with the restrictions. They probably panicked after seeing the product and wanted to make damn sure they covered all the bases.
This sounds more like a lawsuit list more than a banned spots list.
That's what it sounds like to me as well. This is Discovery's business Q1, so probably laid down some new rules/'suggestions'.
Agree 100% This is just like when you're at work and something happens to an employee or a customer to potentially get someone in trouble, then the next day you go to work, there's a meeting with new rules in place.
Absolutely what I was thinking when I read the list earlier. Someone's fearing a lawsuit!
I bet they have a lawsuit going on right now that's not been publicly disclosed which would not surprise me. This list sounds like "settlement terms".
@@chloeirnes Maybe they've already had to settle one, or a few.
I can see moxley thinking he is so tough and intentionally breaking the rules because he's BADASS and a RULE BREAKER
Like in Rocky 4
@@Gothy420That's dope😅
I can imagine now Brian saying this in moxley voice
@unknownsample4801 when I typed it, I heard Brian's Moxley impression
@@alphatoddio rocky 5
It's like a bunch of lawyers got together and put Dusty's "Don't do sh*t you don't know how to do." into legal-ese.
I love how the "Rules and regulations" came out the week before Blood & Guts, but we also know that these rules won't apply to the EVPS, Jericho, or Moxley. Hell, one of the rules says to cut back on bleeding. It's also embarrassing that these rules came out 4 years after the company has seen multiple injuries and potential lawsuits. These all should have been enforced on Day 1. We will see how strickly they are enforced and who the apply to, but this is a strip in the right direction. Of course, many AEW diehard are losing their minds because "Oh No AEW is becoming more like WWE with its boring rules." Dumbass this si for the safety of the talent so they can continue to give you the Indie Outlaw stuff you crave.
No lawsuits
Stop parroting Corny and talk and think like yourself. Agreed they took far too long, but better late than never
Good, the young talent will stop going to the usless EVPS and Moxley and instead go to Punk and ask him how to put an actual match on.
@@NYC_Goody The cries of an angry AEW snowflake.
I doubt these will be enforced for long or for everyone on the roster equally.
Here's what I got from that statement. When you look at the list of agents in AEW, you legitimately have some of the best minds out there. I have a hard time believing that Dean Malenko or Arn Anderson would approve the matches we have been seeing in AEW. It is clear that the wrestlers are not listening, as Billy Gunn, JR, and others have said in various interviews. It sounds like the purpose of the list is to tell the wrestlers to start listening to the agents. For once, Tony is trying to lead. He is essentially telling the wrestlers that there will be consequences if they do not listen to the agents. He is trying to give the agents some authority so that they can institute some quality control. We'll see if he follows through.
I'd be genuinely surprised if this idea is to give agents power, this shit seems more like an insurance policy.
I have a feeling there won't be any consequences unless Discovery steps in. This is just for them negotiating the TV deal. Once that blows over, they'll go right back to it rather than lose their fans. To actually change requires the TV/advertisers to step in like USA network did with the attitude era.
@@gjfwang didnt advertisers or the network one. Step in after some kinda "pizza cutter." Incident as well?
Problem is, this should have been the norm from the start, not 4 years later
@@gjfwangthe rules were put in place before someone died.
Moment of truth now we really found out who has any respect for Tony or not on that roster
Couldn't agree more. Most likely Mox will be the first one cause it seems TK is scared of that crackhead
If i had to guess, its sting jumping off shit that made them put this in place
Trick question, no one doea. Not his world champion bising his time to leave with the company belt, nor the guy he pays the most who just csme back because he saw how much a gutless weasel he is, and not tue EVPs who been bleeding hom dry
too bad it took Year 4 to get there.
No one. And he won't do a damn thing about it either.
I love that they set rules, to enhance talent safety. You can have amazing matches without all the dangerous spots. Some may need to learn better ring psychology.
No offence but aint it time aew moved on from the daredevil high risk exhibition moves.
So is Tk finally learning he cant have some wrestlers out for 6 to 12 months injured its bad for business
Almost as if , if they knew how to wrestle and were credible ....they wouldn't need to do such stupid high risk shite.
Case and point; FTR vs Bullet Club Gold on Collision this week. They went for 58 minutes and as far as I can remember there wasn't a single needlessly dangerous spot or piece of furniture used, nor did anyone bleed.
@@syko2695 yeah but FTR or bullet club are high risk or high flyers dax is the only one remotely high risk if jumping of the top turnbuckle for splashes, leg drops or suplexes he aint doing 450s or the crash n burn stuff sammy does
The high risk taker wrestler just has to wrestler more smarter than take the acrobatic stuff to limit and botch it.
@@1kizhun Uh, that was exactly my point, but thanks anyways
Talk about closing the barn door after the horse is all ready out
And have been smacked with chairs on the way.
I read that in Cornys voice
Or after the barn burned down.
No bleeding in the crowd is going to be a problem for Mox - how’s he going to get to the ring?! 😂
I cannot understand any fan being upset by there being standards and practices that protect the performers they love.
Those upset are the kinds of fans hoping someone gets hurt because they still half believe it's real and that would add to the realism. You know the idiots that think Moxley bleeding in every match is kewl.
@@toddtaylor6506 you're probably right.
No....I don't like it not because I want people to get hurt.
But it feels like everything thst made aew different in a good way is being stripped away.
Part of the allure of aew was doing the things wwe are too scared to do.
This list is more strict than wwe.
I have no issue with safety and toning down a few things but I don't want a situation when tna tried to be great value wwe.
And I don't want WBD interfering to a level where you don't recognize the show anymore. Its a slippery slope especially when you got a potential billion dollar deal looming but I've been watching how wbd moves and zavlav is a moron and I don't want him ruining aew like he's doing with DC
That's my issue. If I didn't care about people getting hurt I'd be advocating for unprotected chair shots.
@@madddoggnogood1491 I hear what you're saying but isn't everything on the list things that would be unsafe?
@@InfectiousGroovePodcast anything in wrestling can be unsafe even when you do it properly.
Look at Danielson he got hurt from a top rope elbow drop from Okada. Two of the best who know what they're doing and he got hurt from a basic move.
Like I said I don't mind toning down certain things and nothing is being banned really they just need to tell people b4 it happens.
But this seems way too familiar to how AOL got involved with wcw and how bischoff ruined tna cause essentially this thier attempt to cater to a "mainstream audience ". Since wcw and ecw closed Whenever a new company gets to a certain level the powers that be whether it's a TV company or management itself begins the WWEfacation of the product and in the process the company loses the identity of why people loved it to begin with.
No one wants these wrestlers to get hurt. I hate that narrative The wrestlers are the ones who want to do that dangerous stuff. I'm not advocating Moxley blading every match or Sammy Guevara thinking he's Spiderman jumping off the statute of liberty.
But like I said I like aew because at timed it is raw and rough around the edges and not so polished and pristine looking. The wrestlers for better or worse are allowed to be themselves. And I dint want that to go away judt for the sake of being thinking this will make wbd happy
As many in the comments have pointed out, this is from WBD. Tony didn't decide all of the sudden to step up and be a leader. The network needs to sell advertising and they aren't going to be able to do it with a lot of the stuff that happens on Dynamite. I wonder if Collision being so much different from Dynamite showed someone at the network that what happens on Dynamite doesn't need to.
I have a strong hunch that the Collision booking assistance crew is Punk, Ace Steel, Samoa Joe, Bryan, double J, with shepherding from JR & someone NJPW USA.
Maybe even Billy Gunn chimes in. He seems to be keeping the Acclaimed from doing extra dumb things.
What's WBD?
@@S_EvenwarWarner Bros/Discovery
The Jericho pit: When you can't afford a Lazarus pit.
I would say this orginates more from WBD as they negotiate a new deal with AEW rather than Tony suddenly growing a backbone.
They know Tony can't say no to the wrestler, so WBD interfere and do it FOR him
AEW needs to get rid of the Bike Rack Crowd Barriers and switch to the padded version WWE uses.
They weren't even getting the agents permission to do a lot of that crazy stuff
As a wrestling fan who happens to have epilepsy, I can't stress enough how much I don't want to watch guys pretending to have a seizure. That's such an easy thing to ban and avoid. Adds nothing to the match that a regular injury spot wouldn't also achieve.
Oh please... get some tougher skin🙄
Who would think keeping wrestling in the ring would be so controversial
Just another day at AEW Middle School with Principal Khan at the helm. Guidance counselors are unheard of there.
waynecolvard3804: So who is their Joe "Batman" Clark" as in the Morgan Freeman Biopic about an inner city School Principal? Potentially speaking, that is.🤔😉😏🎤👨🎓⚾️B.W.
@@madbrowniac7871 yes. AEW Middle needs a man like that. All Principal Khan probably says to the kiddies is "hi guys" and "thanks guys".
What blows my mind is some of the things on the “need approval” list DIDN’T need approval before now.
and that's how you lose you're freedoms folks. Goes from "stop stealing gum" to the products/services need to be completely taken off the shelf.
@@Reliford what lmao
It's always good to wait 4 years into your reign running a company before setting actual rules for your employees 😂😂 Good work Tony lol
Booker of the year
Dudes the most clueless unaware pos booker and owner ever.
@@Immortalangel14I literally come here to say that 😂
Damn.. it's been 4 years already
@@lasselippert3892 technically it's been five because the first pay-per-view was in 2018
To quote Eric Bischoffs comment on this "welcome to the AEW PG Era."
Still though, i wonder if these rules will actually be put into use. We all know that Tony Khan is not someone who can say no to his friends.
Thought if he does not, his sponsors certainly will.
Then the sponsor and WBD would tell Tony, either they stop or all the show gone. Tony WOULD be forced to offend his friend or gone from WBD and TNT
I appreciate how Brian just powers through when Jim goes off on one of his goofy tangents.
This is almost definitely from the network / sponsors. No way TK suddenly has a problem with the mad style he's allowed.
If they banned the Superkick, the wrestlers wouldn't have anything to do. Every match would be a "Finger Poke Of Doom".
or trading chops...every AEW match they trade chops...its boring now
Agent: "Stop finger poking eachother and try throwing an actual punch!"
AEW roster: "We ARE throwing punches!"
@@johngotti489 Maybe Gunther should go to AEW too.
Well judging by the average size of the aew guys that would be an effective move.
I gotta disagree with Cornette on the chair shots to the head. Ever since the Benoit incident, I’m with others in not really needing to see that anymore. Last time we did see it on a grand scale (IE not some GCW mud show) Shawn Spears and Cody fucked it up badly.
My guess is Stings table fiasco, that was the final straw.
Man, going through these rules I realize just what a circus this was before
That Indiana video about the blood test was one of Cornettes best rants ever.
They fired that moron from Taco Bell. Hilarious.
Wait, what is it called?
@@andrefromelpasotexas3236look up “Cornette Indiana Blood” and it’s the first video, about the garbage wrestling health scare.
I’m pretty sure that they no longer operate in Indiana anymore
With all the concerns about hepatitis and Aids, I really can't believe that any halfway serious wrestling promotion even allows deliberate blading. Obviously intentional bleeding is just disgusting carny BS anyway, but given our knowledge of basic health and sanitation it really shouldn't be allowed.
15:20 "oh good God... you can say fuck, but you can't grab somebody by the goozlepipe" bruh i marked HARD for that 😂😂😂
When it comes to the reasons of the rules, it's been assumed that all of this is because of the new deal with WB. When it comes to faking an injury during a match, pretty sure that comes from Danielson faking seizures when he wrestled Okada to look like he was concussed. That got a lot of people rightly angry and they gave AEW shit. I personally love all of this. Watching the Faithful both lose their mind and defend this while mocking WWE for it has just been so pleasant to watch.
I was waiting for an homage to Jericho's 1004 holds WCW promo on Malenko and hearing "ARMBAR" thrown into the mix
And even outside of safety, tony should've been instructing wrestlers to not use certain moves as other wrestlers out of repetition, especially multiple times a night. (Blood, tables, etc)
What Corny doesn't get is that these wrestlers are doing these things without making officials aware, so they are as in the dark as the fans are. If no one knew of Danielsons seizure spot, management would be freaking in the back when he went into convulsions. Basically, if you can't play with that toy properly, we'll take that toy away from you. The parents are NOW trying to control the unruly kids. Too late, but they're trying.
Oddly enough, you never know that it's time to take the toy away until something happens that teaches you that lesson.
Yep, and in which case, no "better to apologize than to ask for permission" crap. They SHOULD STILL punish them for: a) not notifying them, and b) still going ahead and doing it.
Like start cracking the whip, even if they apologize. Make them realize that there's no tolerance. It will either get them to do what they should be doing, or they go back to being an Indie scrub, and AEW can actually become a legit serious product that's ran properly and professionally.
You think they can’t tell a fake seizure?
@@BB-ed4om That attitude kills ppl in the medical field.
Cornette "bad" when he's been saying this for 4 years. AEW "good" when they actually institute these rules.
The diehards are insufferable, and I say this as an AEW fan
These rules are going to handcuff 96% of the AEW roster. They're really gonna miss Cody now, as he was the only guy besides Jericho that knows how to tell a story in the ring.
Collision will be fine
@@John_Smith420I wish they would put collision on Wednesday night for more viewers and put the dynamite show on Saturday. Collision is a WAY BETTER SHOW
@@John_Smith420 Sure, if you consider a show that's struggling to get half a million viewers "fine".
@@decepticonxhunter4850 I do not care about the ratings, its not my money. I'm just saying Collision will have plenty of in-ring talent that will not suffer from these new rules. Plus, I doubt many people are watching live television on Saturday nights and most are recording it to watch the next day.
Well,this is what they get when the lack of professionalism takeover Dynamite,ROH and Rampage.
If Tony Khan had some kind of control over this company, the network wouldn't need to put their hands on the product, now is too late and Warner saw WWE making tons of money and they want that, otherwise we will have Raw and SmackDown on TNT and TBS.
If WWE came calling for the TV rights to TNT, you think they won't drop AEW in a heartbeat
When they say they need to approval, I don't think they mean they are gonna outright say no to half the shit but to make sure whatever the wrestlers, who are apparently booking their own matches outside the winner, won't end up with nights where everyone bleeds and everyone breaks a table for no reason in every match.
Obviously Mox is getting a fast pass.
Big dives and pile drivers should be exclusively finishers.
Tombstones are probably the safest piledrivers, but should still be extremely rare.
Someone must've given Tony some good shit!! Either that or there was talk of a lawsuit from someone. Maybe Warner is starting to put their foot down.
I wonder if this is from the network big wigs seeing how needlessly dangerous things are and putting their foot down forcing a change
Watching Osprey try to murder Omega probably finally got TNT/TBS to actually watch the shows more closely and realize these idiots are going to kill a worker or fan on live TV and we're going to end up testifying in front of Congress.
Definitely, look at WCW. They fired both Dustin and his opponent because they both bled on the truck match
I'm 99% sure that's the case. If it wasn't for the network, Punk wouldn't be back
The same type of networks that let sid rick etc get fucked up or the ones that let angle get perced up and let rob Terry take unpros to the head? Those kind folks? They clearly aren't about capitalizing on people. They really care about their safety.
When they give you time 3 nights a week they can tell that idiot Tony to dance at the top of the 9pm hour.
How is the piledriver ban going to work, when some wrestlers use piledrivers as their finishers. I know Toni Storm has the Storm Zero piledriver and Statlander has that Tombstone. Are they going to have to pick new finishers? Or are their finishers going to be exceptions?
And then the "no intentional bleeding" thing... I'm pretty sure that just bans Jon Moxley from being on camera. I can't see how these rules are going to work. I think they're just going to approve everything and we won't see any noticeable difference.
They aren't going to enforce any of that crap. They even had "no sprays or aerosols" after they just gave the Outasts the gimmick where they spray people in every match. The no hanging looks like it directly targets Brody from house of black cuz he's the one that does those hanging spots where he puts someone in the sleeper and hangs them over the ring apron.
of course Mox was probably bleeding just from thinking about this stuff. and don't forget Dustin... he bleeds in every match as well. he just doesn't wrestle as often as Mox so he goes more under the radar. but bleeding is literally his thing.
Does Jon Moxley know he's been fired? LOL.
He can play Lance Von Anoai?
Imagine SEEING WRESTLING on a WRESTLING PROGRAM
I think, concerning the ban on chair shots, that the ban is more indicative that nobody there knows HOW to do one safely. Or no one that the actual wrestlers will listen to.
I'm tired of seeing so many ring apron bumps. When it happened only occasionally it was cool but it's overused now. That makes it seem less impactful. It really is the hardest part of the ring so it's more dangerous. They should use it less often so it means more and it's less dangerous.
Remember when AeW separated itself from WWE by mocking them for how many rules they have.... 😅😅
I low-key want Seth or Roman to use this during their promo for their feuds to subtly mock them for it
@@marvinleong5902 yes!!!
its funny, even when AEW tries setting perimeters for their talent, they still sound like a bunch of marks.
Been waiting for this one. On their first show after these rules were announced, it seemed like everyone broke them. I'm sure all of those spots on the last show were not cleared ahead of time
Or if you get the yes every time .
What's the fucking point
What's Tony gonna do? Send em home with pay? Tony doesn't have the BALLS to actually DO anything about it.
Quite the leap logically you just took lol
I'm starting to wonder if these are kayfabe rules or if the default answer for approval will be "yes"
I've seen 4 piledrivers since this news broke. I can't remember, but I think 2 were on Dynamite and Rampage, which I would forgive since it might have came out after the shows. But, I think I saw 2 on Collision and Battle for the Belts.
And people forget, Paul did get sued a lot, often minor stuff we didn't hear about. Yeah it made for good tv, but thank god Paul's from a family of lawyers.
I was waiting for "No throws over the top rope or you will be dq'ed"
if they didn't look green before, these rules will only make them look worse, like they've never trained a day in their lives... which may be the case lol
they can do a 720 shooting star press of the top rope into a Frankensteiner into a Boston crab but they can't do a basic collar and elbow tie up 😂
They will end up like Thumbtack Jack who did some of the dumbest shit as deathmatch wrestler, but then got concussions and a career ending injury when he started to do regular matches because he didn't know how to take bumps safely 😂
@@megsleyThe mental image 😂😂
It’s gonna really have that backyard wrestling feel now.
AEW New Rules & Restrictions is the new PPV
This should have been an internal matter. Making it public just adds to the pathetic nature of Tony Khan.
No I love it, the collective nervous breakdown of their audience is quite entertaining!
Moxley “well he’s delusional and potentially
malfunctional” that was fucking priceless Jim lololol
Somewhere Donate "Dummy" Martin is sitting with his leg elevated thinking "this is a little late for me".
It’s not aew who came up with these rules..
It’s obviously Warner/Discovery who’ve finally decided to limit what’s on their tv
They have to. They’re running out of money quick and AEW isn’t helping.
Missed bit, the rules should have been read by Excalibrian.
'what caused this?'
Kenneth McFingerbanger's spine or AD's broken arm would be my guess. Lawyers by how it sounds. That it took that long, ooph.
You know what AEW is nuts when you listen to this. I never knew the extent of a wrestling promotions rule book, AEW had none until now, this is maaad
This is an indictment on their roster. Professional wrestlers, so-called in some cases, needing a list of rules to obey by. These adult wrestlers need to be corralled because they don't know better. Their boss is telling them that they don't know better. It is sad.
These spots just tend to feed upon themselves. Because they are so inherently dangerous they look overly participatory so the workers don't actually kill themselves. The fans see these overly-participatory spots and see the workers helping each other out. So the fans no longer suspend their disbelief in terms of believing the workers are really trying to hurt each other and have a real, competitive match.
Instead the fans view it as the workers trying to inflict some pain upon themselves and come as close as they can to permanently injuring themselves and the other worker is helping them achieve that. So the emotion eventually becomes more and more about how much these guys actually hurt themselves and how close they can come to permanently injuring themselves instead of having a competitive match that people care about who wins and who loses and how they win or lose.
This is a full CYA. Nothing will change. They just won’t have to pay the injured wrestler because of it
Rumor has it Moxley was handed this list of rules with a "request for release" form stapled to it
If he get pinned for B&G then it probably true 😂😂
I wonder if it has anything to do with their deal with Time Warner
And yet NO ONE had the guts to say "Everyone go back to wrestling school."
In other words, we're going in the direction of Collision.
So, now that these rules are public knowledge:
* Everyone will be watching to see who breaks which rules instead of watching the matches.
* What happens when somebody blatantly uses one of the banned rules?
* How much backstage drama will there be when one wrestler is told they aren't approved for a move but somebody else is?
* What happens when a wrestler injures another wrestler with one of these "pre-approval required" moves? Is AEW more or less liable? Or does it make any legal difference?
They've basically gotten so far away from any of the fundamentals of wrestling that anything short of live hand grenades or shoving someone in an industrial trash compactor doesn't even register a shock value anymore.
Oh, and Moxley is gonna be so pissed! They've taken away his whole repertoire after this.
What this indyrific generation of wrestlers doesnt realize is how good they would be/look working more traditionally. They are the most athletically dynamic generation of wrestlers ever and they could make any standard, safe moves look terrific. They have the physical ability to make safe look dangerous
Try telling this to those who do GCW shows at every 2 weeks.
And very very occasionally going outside the norm and being able to make that look great too enhancing whatever you're doing.
Agreed. Cheap shortcuts for cheap reactions from disingenuous fans who only care about showing how "smart" (LOL) they are.
Blood and guts will do every banned thing listed and some nobody ever thought of. These wrestling artists who all have an inflated opinion of themselves aren't suddenly going to modify their style after 4 years and nobody thinks Tony is gonna punish anyone who treats him with contempt
I cant wait until tomorrows Blood & Guts breaks all these rules in the first 5 minutes
That no bleeding rule is going to basically eliminate 95% of John moxley's matches...
So basically Moxley is retiring.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
yes god forbid the wrestlers of AEW have to actually do pro wrestling instead of a bunch of completely unnecessary high risk low reward gymnastics spots.
AEW stepping up from INDIE to PRO 🎉
They’ve still got the pro wrestling chimpanzees around doubt theyll be serious anytime soon
Not with Tony's booking.
they grow up so fast 😂
Let's call it developmental brand.
“Don’t give managers the Deliverance routine.”
- Jim Cornette, 2023
The problem is you're supposed to teach the rules when they start into the business. Now they are like a bunch of spoiled kids that don't know the meaning of no!
The "not without approval" rules seem to be really overboard, unless it is merely a way for leadership to finally take some damn CONTROL over a bunch of entitled wrestlers who think they can do whatever they want.
In other words, Khan saying "you can do it, sure. When I KNOW ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND AND AGREE WITH IT."
Sounds like these guys have never been listening to people in charge and this is just a way to finally tell them what's what.
they don't want people catching hepatitis in indie matches and then flinging blood on each other and out in the crowd on WBD's dime, who saw it coming...
Should definitely revisit this episode and compare to what AEW is now doing
Tony Khan let his company exist as a lawless wasteland for all these years and now he suddenly wants to put the genie back in the lamp.
Good luck with that.
They're gonna need to patch the aew game because it has all that stuff
The line Jim Cornette said around 14:00-14:04 makes me laugh...
"Chairs, chains, bottles, rocks, bricks, dicks, pots, pans & tin cans.".
This is great news. Maybe now each match will start to feel different. They can start to move away from Indy Wrestling to TV wrestling.
It wont last past the first Moxley spot
Yea it can start feeling more like WWE. Great
@@bryanlane5945 Being more professional could only be good.
@@bryanlane5945 tv wrestling only WWE, how old are you? F indie mark!!!!!
@bryanlane5945 Yeah, why would Aew want to be more professional? Silly thought
These rules have been enforced almost the same way the WWE’s wellness policy was during its worse years
It's because they're about to get a new tv deal.
There are a few people on AEWs roster I'd trust to hard way me, but the list is short. In no particular order
Sting
CM Punk
Arn Anderson
Christian Cage
FTR
Mark Bricoe
If I'm missing anyone, feel free to add on to the list!
Jeff Jarrett
@@alphatoddio yup, forgot about Jeff. As long as Karen is there to potato me with the guitar that's fine with me 😂
Not having watched wrestling for more than 25 years (due to not liking how wrestling has turned out), and thus not having watched what is currently on TV, if modern wrestlers are unable to get their matches over by strictly what is done in the ring (without all the ECW-related garbage), then they shouldn't be working in the business.
This is a direct result of The Men and Women on Collision providing great in ring action weekly without excess bullish!t . They’ve proven it can work, now everyone must fall in line . It’s a positive, this will make when stuff on the list can be used special !
They broke every single rule in that one shitty blood and guts match tonight 😂😂😂