In season 2, they have to make an episode that’s called: What if Thanos snapped away the other half of the universe. That’s one what if that is on everyone’s mind
@@matthewdeltoro8962 I think Hank would be able do what Stark did anyway. Tony and Bruce aren’t the only geniuses in the MCU. That is literally the premise in What If: Killmonger becomes Black Panther.
Remember T’challa Starlord likely doesn’t have the heart shaped herb power boost making him a ‘mere’ peak human like Hawkeye\Falcon although he does have Ravager training training from Yondu.
Captain marvel was holding back… but so was Thor. He was literally just joking around for the entire fight. It was only when he got thrown into a mountain that he actually tried as he stated that it actually hurt. Too bad Thor’s mom intervened, would have been an epic fight at the cost of the world. Edit: Ah god I started a war in the comments.
@@superrooster18 tbh Captain Marvel after realizing Thor was just playing she started getting serious but Thor was still taking it as a joke. If they went all out it would seem as Thor would Win 7/10
@@omarlopez3914 imma say there’s never been a moment at any time that captain marvel did something and I was like, yea she might be stronger than Thor . Her saying she wasn’t completely serious is nothing compared to Thor literally taking it as a joke and still tanking blast to the face. Unlike her, he doesn’t have energy absorption powers. So him taking her blast it a better feat than her absorbing lightning. There’s still nothing she can do if he just drops the hammer on her
@@yoboyrob201 literally same with Thor, all of his best feats (neutron star tanking, taking an gauntlet blast or his entrance in wakanda) she could do better. She tanked the same headbutt from Thanos that knocked Thor out in Endgame, the ships he took down in infinity war were the baby sized ships that came from the mother ship she ate in less than 20 seconds. And him putting mjolnir on her would not be a problem for an unleashed carol, we’ve seen her dive into the core of a planet easily so she could very realistically just blow a hole in the ground to wiggle Mjolnir out of her. She has this one in the bag clearly 😂
I agree on this 💯 and have noticed this same thing on a few other of his tier lists but for the most part they’re pretty good. And ofc I still appreciate the effort he put in with these 🤧 and it still gives me free entertainment and alway fun too see someone else opinion with tierings 😁 I do appreciate his right to left category ranking for the same tiers, that’s pretty solid and the first time I’ve seen that used in tier list which I also appreciate, showing that even if they’re on the same tier doesn’t mean they’re always quite on the same level
I honestly believe Strange alone could've beat Ultron, with a struggle. Every attack Ultron threw, Strange really just stopped and guarded against them for his team. Granted he would still be hurt, but he would survive unlike his team. And he more than likely has more magical power than what was shown in the episode seeing as to how he absorbed creatures for centuries.
@@kindle184 Still. Who knows how much more magic he could have learned from the centuries absorbing those creatures. For the sake of the ending they made him team up with the other heroes because Strange doing it by himself wouldn't have been as impactful on an ending
No he could not have , just watch at the end of the fight how he was struggling while Ultron was chilling when they were actually going 1on1 , and that was Ultron with 5 stone if I remember correctly , he would have beaten Strange either way
I highly doubt that, the whole purpose of the fight originally was to destroy the stones and when they realized they couldn't, all hope was seemingly lossed for everyone including strange. I doubt he was strong enough to beat him but definitely their best shot.
i mean , ultron really didnt do anything against captain marvel at first , he just took it. He then overpowered her using 0 infinity stones since the stones weren't glowing. He then proceed to one shot her. I feel captain marvel is a bit higher than she should be.
@@Bavarian_Lifting fax, it's just annoying that people always place cap marvel above Thor, they don't realize she would lose in a 1v1 against prime mcu Thor
@@typeouetco1626 Party Thor never even came close to fucking burrowing Ultron to earth's core. She's objectively stronger and y'all are salty about it LMAO
They made ultron so busted in this, if they were gonna have him be that strong I think they should've given him something more than just the infinity stones.
@@decimation9780 I'm saying within the MCU. I think it is just kind of mindblowing that someone with 6 infinity stones can break through reality and destroy multiple universes. I might have misinterpreted his power though so idk.
@@decimation9780 That's pretty crazy. I just wasn't sure if the infinity stones were meant to have that much power in the MCU unless Thanos just didn't care to explore their true potential
@@overthefield8548 The MCU Infinity Stones are actually pretty piss poor compared to their comic book counterpart, in the comics they have a wide arrange of different abilities, and though unfortunately I am unable to list them all, you can look it up to see just how busted they are in the comics and how nerfed they were in the MCU. This is unfortunately due to the fact that in the MCU, it pretty closely follows the comics, except everyone in the MCU universe is just a whole lot weaker. For context, War Machine in the comics could wipe galaxies at his maximum, meanwhile in the MCU he has trouble dealing with a big fucking army. In the comics, Tony ended up creating an AI program that wiped out basically every form of life, and the only thing that stopped this program from wiping all life was Venom, who managed to wage basically a one man war and win their respect, allowing the universe to be born again with all forms of life returned. The comics are fucking busted compared to the MCU.
No, Party Thor is stronger than live action Thor by onscreen feats, MCU Thor barely send people flying great distance you can't scale them by timeline cos they're seperate universes
I think regular strange should be in team buster tier unless your counting him as his split apart self cause he still had the time stone before the ancient one split him in two. In that regard the ancient one should also be in team buster unless your counting her as her basically already dead self
Ultron with the infinity stones is truly terrifying. Even the watcher himself couldn’t imagine what ultron would do to the multiverse if he won. And to think tony stark created ultron and because of what if, ultron is now the single strongest being in the mcu.
Thanos was stupidly nerfed in the what if series in the mcu we see him fighting multiple strong characters without all the infinity stones he was even holding his own with captain marvel yet ultron with a single stone was able to kill him with no effort and the same ultron with all the stones had trouble killing captain marvel
I am ok with Ultron one shoting him because each Infinity Stone by itself has Infinite power. So, the fight was more who could use there weapons first, and since Ultron is an AI that can calculate billions of outcomes in a second I think he'd react first. Also, Ultron with all the stones barely had to try to kill Carol so I don't know what your talking about. But I will admit, in the second episode Thanos was nerfed MASSIVELY. This are just my thoughts, thank you for your time.
@@Velloah ok struggle was an exaggeration but captain marvel put up more of a fight then thanos did which doesn’t make sense to me base thanos should be pretty fucking strong I can sort of give you the fact of ultron being an ai can think before him but I still believe thanos should’ve put more of a fight
@@DaRealSentaur I think the reason for Thanos getting instant killed s because the episodes were originally gonna be 45 minutes long, so they prob had to cut a lot of planned scenes and rush things along.
I think hank pym should habe been way higher. He only lost because he got angry, but he was very intelligent and with the yellowjacket suit he could have killed everyone from the low super hero tier and most likely even people that are higher.
Remember: everyone when they were against ultron with the infinite suit was HIGHLY amped by the shield of the vishanti, as well as their weapons. Same as good strange vs his evil self. Imagine if our mcu timeline strange used this spell….oof
1- Ultron infinity because he defeat watcher 2-watcher even supreme strange mentioned him as god 3- supreme strange 4- thor because he break Ultron infinity arm
@@jah2032 The enchantment didn't increase his strength, it only acted as a shield to protect him from Ultron's attacks and Mjollnir is capable of damaging Vibranium (which Ultron's body is made of) without any enchantments as shown in Age of Ultron.
Well I think this is pretty solid but if we use the feats from the mcu movies for spider-man, I think he should be a bit higher (gonna admit I'm a bit biased as you can tell from the pfp 🤣) anyways, well done for creating a top "tier" list (get it. Tier list heh okay I'm gonna stop typing)
@@icecreambeforedinner2772 nope he defeat Dormamu. A defeat doesn't mean the loser had to die. Dormamu surrendered to strange request. Sure he did this by using the time stone. It still counts as a defeat
Was expecting to highly disagree due to the nature of this list with so many characters with debatable power levels but honestly I agree with basically everything, but I would put Evil Pym a little higher
Bucky may be super soldier tier but the winter soldier would be over yondu. He could just shoot him or catch the arrow. Also if cap destroyed spider man then the winter soldier can too.
Cuz the watcher knew Ultron would be defeated. Strange talks about how he forsaw everything that would happen in the final episode of what if. Living tribunal being a way higher entity than the watcher should not be concerned about Ultron
@@username.exenotfound2943 From what we've seen The watcher seems to be alot more Op than the comics. In the comics one watcher watches one universe. Here Uatu watches multiple universes. So it stands to reason that despite what we saw in Guardians Vol 2 he may be the ONLY watcher. If that's the case then the person he swore the oath too might be The living tribunal.
Through the power of forcing a character down our throats, Carol is considered super OP. When for majority of her existence she's barely been a top 25 hero.
Did the Watcher forget about the main timeline? I mean, there were so many heroes that could have easily stomped out Ultron if they were a Guardian of the Multiverse.
I doubt that. You're talking about infinite Ultron right? The thing is there was no hero that could do it without evil doctor strange's help so at that point he picked by righteousness or faith or something, not power.
Pretty accurate for the most part of the list. But I am almost sure Supreme Spider Man is stronger than Star Lord T'Challa, Yondu and Killmonger. He is as fast as all this characters and is able to evade the majority of attack using Spider Sense + Flying. And he is physically stronger.
You forgot shuma gorath he is in doctor strange supreme in episode 9 the beast you know that’s huma gorath and he was able to hold ultron without being affected by infinite stone and was old ultron longer than anyone can
If we just go by the WandaVision show, she would be team buster, but after the show when she masters the book she is learning from, she may be higher. It will be interesting to see how strong she gets.
8:30 That’s actually incorrect. She said that both Stranges are equally matched, therefore neither of them was more powerful because standard Strange either got a huge buff and/or evil Strange was nerfed a lot Edit: You forgot to include Zola because he actually managed to defeat/delete Ultron completely, even with all the stones. But he should still be team buster of high super hero because Zola exploited the fact that Ultron was still a hackable Program, something which I doubt he could do to literally anyone else, but he is so incredibly smart he could find a way to defeat everyone else except for Watcher, evil Strange and probably Cpt. Marvel and Wanda.
@@pkay4405 Watcher took multiple punches that sent him across universes, and SS didn't just survive he took it like nth. But ur maybe right. Wait Mr ditkovich? did you fix bully maguire's door yet
I think captain carter & killmonger is on the same level. Because they both are supersoldier,. Which is on the main MCU universr Steve & Tchalla have simillar power. & the teori about super soldier serum are the simillar with purple potion from wakanda
@@weeaboo-warrior good i left alot of power scaling for phase 4 characters in your last mcu tier list in the comments so i hope you use them(also will you include the netflix shows?
Yes, but this would just upscale the blasters potency. I was just pointing out that taking Ironman's repulse shot to the back of the head and getting back up is pretty impressive for a character like Maw.
I would not say Ultron and watcher are universal but multiversal since in the guide book uatu is above the infinite multiverse and ultron beat him so making them 5d
What the heck we all remember Thor beating Captain Marvel and Hulk getting the upper hand on Wanda. Also Why is wasp higher than Loki, hulk, thanos, and loki
So Spider-Man holding back scarlet witch for just a second puts him a whole tier higher imo I mean they are the same amount of tiers apart as Korg and Thanos and I couldn’t picture Korg doing anything to touch thanos
@@weeaboo-warrior I think the fact the Watcher singled out Strange to keep the party together and had him deal with Ultron shows they're at least level
@@xaoc6084 He bent the rules a bit, but he still didn't want to fight himself. Strange might be relative to him, but I would still give the Watcher the edge. He did break him out of the universe he couldn't escape from.
I doubt the watcher is stronger than strange Supreme and also your logic is almost flawless but you kind of over hyped captain marvel as she was amped by the infinity stones on Ultron to even do anything and party Thor was also joking around in that fight and I doubt 10 nukes would be enough since the infinity war feat wich was a weakend main Thor was low balled the equivalent of 23 Tsar Bomba
Bro that like with I was holding back to not put a crater in the earth so annoying. Can't give Thor a win wow. Plus she could easily let lose her power in the air
Every character comes way below Ultron. Ultron and Infinity Ultron are the same thing. Initially only Ultron existed, whatever he became after that was done by him himself. It's like you don't differentiate kid 5 year old Thanos with the adult Avengers Thanos. They're the same person.
@@weeaboo-warrior I’m sorry but that’s just a lie. I rewatched infinity war, it was even . StarLord held Peter hostage while Tony held Drax. And even before that it wasn’t clear he could win if they fought. If he had Ego’s powers it would be obvious but now that he doesn’t I’m sorry I don’t see any way Captain Carter wouldn’t wreck StarLord tchalla, all he has over her is flight and cunning, that won’t be enough. No way he can take her or Bucky, he’ll even get a tough time with Widow.
@@weeaboo-warrior still doesn’t prove how he would defeat Captain Carter/Bucky who are durable and resourceful as well. Not saying it would be easy but they’d win in my honest opinion. Maybe do a video about this, so your community can debate? Lol. Very sure I’m not alone in these thoughts
Wait, i just remembered something. Wasn't nick fury able to resurrect agent coulson with something? What if he plans on resurrecting the dead avengers(excluding hulk, he's done for good).
The only problem I see is Hank Pym is too low on the list and the wasp is too high they have the same power sets except the wasp can fly, Loki is too low compared to the wasp because if he beat hank Pym he would also be able to beat the wasp I think that hank and wasp should be decently high bc they are using quantum energy which is powerful and Loki should be one tier above them because he absolutely destroyed hank
Strange could defeat ultron, but the multiverse would be destroyed if he used his full power vs him, so he holded back and found another way to defeat ultron
In season 2, they have to make an episode that’s called: What if Thanos snapped away the other half of the universe. That’s one what if that is on everyone’s mind
That’s a good idea.
That’s awesome I’d love to see it. The other half wouldn’t be able to bring everyone back though
@@matthewdeltoro8962 hank pym tho
Wanda and Dr Strange gon be the backbone hshsshsh. Maybe Hank Pymm also
@@matthewdeltoro8962 I think Hank would be able do what Stark did anyway. Tony and Bruce aren’t the only geniuses in the MCU. That is literally the premise in What If: Killmonger becomes Black Panther.
Strange not having to use his energy to protect his teamates would give a really good fight to ultron
he would be just eresed by him with all 6 stones
@@kubakaczmarek2399 then why didn’t Ultron do that the first time? Yeah so don’t think so
@@starlite8348 because ey stole his soule stone
@@kubakaczmarek2399 But the matter in Strange's body isn't from the universe Ultron's stones are from, so Ultron would not be able to do so
@@ourcade8265 where did you take that? Thats not true
Strange definitely deserves more credit than that. He was the reason everyone the Watcher recruited survived.
Remember T’challa Starlord likely doesn’t have the heart shaped herb power boost making him a ‘mere’ peak human like Hawkeye\Falcon although he does have Ravager training training from Yondu.
Based on feats he seemed superhuman though.
@@toonbartholome479 could honestly have just as much to do with Strange’s protection spell boosting durability.
Captain marvel was holding back… but so was Thor. He was literally just joking around for the entire fight. It was only when he got thrown into a mountain that he actually tried as he stated that it actually hurt. Too bad Thor’s mom intervened, would have been an epic fight at the cost of the world.
Edit: Ah god I started a war in the comments.
Both were holding back but its pretty clear if they went all out she’d have the upper hand
@@omarlopez3914 nah. When they were both holding back Thor was joking around while she was actually trying. If they went all out it would be close.
@@superrooster18 tbh Captain Marvel after realizing Thor was just playing she started getting serious but Thor was still taking it as a joke. If they went all out it would seem as Thor would Win 7/10
@@omarlopez3914 imma say there’s never been a moment at any time that captain marvel did something and I was like, yea she might be stronger than Thor . Her saying she wasn’t completely serious is nothing compared to Thor literally taking it as a joke and still tanking blast to the face. Unlike her, he doesn’t have energy absorption powers. So him taking her blast it a better feat than her absorbing lightning. There’s still nothing she can do if he just drops the hammer on her
@@yoboyrob201 literally same with Thor, all of his best feats (neutron star tanking, taking an gauntlet blast or his entrance in wakanda) she could do better. She tanked the same headbutt from Thanos that knocked Thor out in Endgame, the ships he took down in infinity war were the baby sized ships that came from the mother ship she ate in less than 20 seconds. And him putting mjolnir on her would not be a problem for an unleashed carol, we’ve seen her dive into the core of a planet easily so she could very realistically just blow a hole in the ground to wiggle Mjolnir out of her. She has this one in the bag clearly 😂
it seems there needs to be more tiers to the list to separate people like wasp and thor or korg with happy but it seems pretty solid
I agree on this 💯 and have noticed this same thing on a few other of his tier lists but for the most part they’re pretty good. And ofc I still appreciate the effort he put in with these 🤧 and it still gives me free entertainment and alway fun too see someone else opinion with tierings 😁
I do appreciate his right to left category ranking for the same tiers, that’s pretty solid and the first time I’ve seen that used in tier list which I also appreciate, showing that even if they’re on the same tier doesn’t mean they’re always quite on the same level
Q/A Did you sense a disturbance in the Omni-Force when Agatha Killed Sparky?
I agree, it's unfair that Wasp and Thor has to compete with an omnipotent being such as happy
Bro the accuracy of this tier list and your logic behind each placing is absolutely worth a 💯
I honestly believe Strange alone could've beat Ultron, with a struggle. Every attack Ultron threw, Strange really just stopped and guarded against them for his team. Granted he would still be hurt, but he would survive unlike his team. And he more than likely has more magical power than what was shown in the episode seeing as to how he absorbed creatures for centuries.
Actually strange was fighting 5 stone ultron and struggling never 6 stone ultron.
@@kindle184 Still. Who knows how much more magic he could have learned from the centuries absorbing those creatures. For the sake of the ending they made him team up with the other heroes because Strange doing it by himself wouldn't have been as impactful on an ending
@@kindle184 because he had to give his energy to his team
No he could not have , just watch at the end of the fight how he was struggling while Ultron was chilling when they were actually going 1on1 , and that was Ultron with 5 stone if I remember correctly , he would have beaten Strange either way
I highly doubt that, the whole purpose of the fight originally was to destroy the stones and when they realized they couldn't, all hope was seemingly lossed for everyone including strange. I doubt he was strong enough to beat him but definitely their best shot.
i mean , ultron really didnt do anything against captain marvel at first , he just took it. He then overpowered her using 0 infinity stones since the stones weren't glowing. He then proceed to one shot her. I feel captain marvel is a bit higher than she should be.
She is always overrated
especially since party thor was quite clearly stronger than her, being the one who put the least amount of effort in their fight.
@@Bavarian_Lifting Her whole character sucks, it's like Superman done wrong. That's why we have Adam Warlock lol
@@Bavarian_Lifting fax, it's just annoying that people always place cap marvel above Thor, they don't realize she would lose in a 1v1 against prime mcu Thor
@@typeouetco1626 Party Thor never even came close to fucking burrowing Ultron to earth's core. She's objectively stronger and y'all are salty about it LMAO
Really need a update version of this now with Season two also so you do what if season 1 and 2 in one Tier list. Ps keep up the amazing work:)
I’m planning on it right after my Hunter x Hunter list.
They made ultron so busted in this, if they were gonna have him be that strong I think they should've given him something more than just the infinity stones.
Are you joking? This version of Ultron is about as strong as Ultron from the comics.
@@decimation9780 I'm saying within the MCU. I think it is just kind of mindblowing that someone with 6 infinity stones can break through reality and destroy multiple universes. I might have misinterpreted his power though so idk.
@@overthefield8548 Ultron does that without the Infinity Stones in the comics. He is hilariously busted.
@@decimation9780 That's pretty crazy. I just wasn't sure if the infinity stones were meant to have that much power in the MCU unless Thanos just didn't care to explore their true potential
@@overthefield8548 The MCU Infinity Stones are actually pretty piss poor compared to their comic book counterpart, in the comics they have a wide arrange of different abilities, and though unfortunately I am unable to list them all, you can look it up to see just how busted they are in the comics and how nerfed they were in the MCU. This is unfortunately due to the fact that in the MCU, it pretty closely follows the comics, except everyone in the MCU universe is just a whole lot weaker. For context, War Machine in the comics could wipe galaxies at his maximum, meanwhile in the MCU he has trouble dealing with a big fucking army. In the comics, Tony ended up creating an AI program that wiped out basically every form of life, and the only thing that stopped this program from wiping all life was Venom, who managed to wage basically a one man war and win their respect, allowing the universe to be born again with all forms of life returned.
The comics are fucking busted compared to the MCU.
I'm so stoked I found this haha.
This guy's a G
Supreme Strange really does his name justice lol
"Strange stopped a galaxy destroying attack by eating it"
idk why I found that so funny
IN MY OPINION party Thor is slightly weaker than MCU pre awakened thor
true thor with storm breaker + Supreme strange's multiply magic would carry the fight
@@nedsupreme1792 I still think that strange supreme would be carrying
@@nedsupreme1792 what about true party thor
He is definitely weaker since in his universe everyone is at peace so he doesn't have to train and fight like the OG Thor.
No, Party Thor is stronger than live action Thor by onscreen feats, MCU Thor barely send people flying great distance you can't scale them by timeline cos they're seperate universes
Good work !!! 👍
A pity that we will wait a month for the next one😢
I think regular strange should be in team buster tier unless your counting him as his split apart self cause he still had the time stone before the ancient one split him in two. In that regard the ancient one should also be in team buster unless your counting her as her basically already dead self
Really great list, I couldn’t find anything I disagree with
Oh hoh hoh this will be amazing!!!! Ahhhhh I cant wait
Ultron with the infinity stones is truly terrifying. Even the watcher himself couldn’t imagine what ultron would do to the multiverse if he won. And to think tony stark created ultron and because of what if, ultron is now the single strongest being in the mcu.
Thanos was stupidly nerfed in the what if series in the mcu we see him fighting multiple strong characters without all the infinity stones he was even holding his own with captain marvel yet ultron with a single stone was able to kill him with no effort and the same ultron with all the stones had trouble killing captain marvel
Yeah I agree.
He wasn’t struggling at all
I am ok with Ultron one shoting him because each Infinity Stone by itself has Infinite power. So, the fight was more who could use there weapons first, and since Ultron is an AI that can calculate billions of outcomes in a second I think he'd react first. Also, Ultron with all the stones barely had to try to kill Carol so I don't know what your talking about. But I will admit, in the second episode Thanos was nerfed MASSIVELY. This are just my thoughts, thank you for your time.
@@Velloah ok struggle was an exaggeration but captain marvel put up more of a fight then thanos did which doesn’t make sense to me base thanos should be pretty fucking strong I can sort of give you the fact of ultron being an ai can think before him but I still believe thanos should’ve put more of a fight
@@DaRealSentaur I think the reason for Thanos getting instant killed s because the episodes were originally gonna be 45 minutes long, so they prob had to cut a lot of planned scenes and rush things along.
Even doctor strange cape was carrying
Super Soldier tier: *exists*
Captain America and Captain Marvel: “Why yes, I see this as an absolute win
Can’t wait!!!
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I think hank pym should habe been way higher. He only lost because he got angry, but he was very intelligent and with the yellowjacket suit he could have killed everyone from the low super hero tier and most likely even people that are higher.
Remember: everyone when they were against ultron with the infinite suit was HIGHLY amped by the shield of the vishanti, as well as their weapons.
Same as good strange vs his evil self.
Imagine if our mcu timeline strange used this spell….oof
OH YEAH LET'S GET IT!!!!!
1- Ultron infinity because he defeat watcher
2-watcher even supreme strange mentioned him as god
3- supreme strange
4- thor because he break Ultron infinity arm
thor and Mjolnir was enhanced by Strange's spell
@@jah2032 The enchantment didn't increase his strength, it only acted as a shield to protect him from Ultron's attacks and Mjollnir is capable of damaging Vibranium (which Ultron's body is made of) without any enchantments as shown in Age of Ultron.
10:27 i love that scene😂
They should make a what if Captain Marvel had a personality.
We need to see this for the new season
Yeah I’m thinking about making it right after I get done with my Hunter x Hunter list.
@@weeaboo-warriornice
I think the simple fact T'Challa was able to talk THANOS out of snapping half of the universe, shows how universal this man is.
I swear that’s such a bad plot
Well I think this is pretty solid but if we use the feats from the mcu movies for spider-man, I think he should be a bit higher (gonna admit I'm a bit biased as you can tell from the pfp 🤣) anyways, well done for creating a top "tier" list (get it. Tier list heh okay I'm gonna stop typing)
Regular Strange > Wanda and Cap Marvel. He faced Dormamu and also gave Supreme Strange a good fight, though a weaker version.
Exactly
Well only faced, he didn't fight dormammu, he only annoyed him using the time stone
@@icecreambeforedinner2772 nope he defeat Dormamu. A defeat doesn't mean the loser had to die.
Dormamu surrendered to strange request. Sure he did this by using the time stone. It still counts as a defeat
Wanda literally solos him it was stated and shown in mom😭😭
Was expecting to highly disagree due to the nature of this list with so many characters with debatable power levels but honestly I agree with basically everything, but I would put Evil Pym a little higher
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Bucky may be super soldier tier but the winter soldier would be over yondu. He could just shoot him or catch the arrow.
Also if cap destroyed spider man then the winter soldier can too.
Wouldn't you say they're all equal in strength cus both Steve and bucky are super soldiers and spiderman also has super strength and spider sense
Well spider man is far stronger then bucky, blackpanther, cap
But he is lacking experience
@@swayamdabral4877 Spiderman is far stronger than cap and bucky
I wonder how they will explain the living tribunal not stopping ultron
Maybe cuz he’s not in the mcu
@@thawsomepancakes3615 i hope he will be
Cuz the watcher knew Ultron would be defeated. Strange talks about how he forsaw everything that would happen in the final episode of what if. Living tribunal being a way higher entity than the watcher should not be concerned about Ultron
@@username.exenotfound2943 From what we've seen The watcher seems to be alot more Op than the comics. In the comics one watcher watches one universe. Here Uatu watches multiple universes. So it stands to reason that despite what we saw in Guardians Vol 2 he may be the ONLY watcher. If that's the case then the person he swore the oath too might be The living tribunal.
@@thawsomepancakes3615 he does exist according to Dr Strange 2
Through the power of forcing a character down our throats, Carol is considered super OP. When for majority of her existence she's barely been a top 25 hero.
Yes
Imagine if we saw ultron fight some of the guys from the comics
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Did the Watcher forget about the main timeline? I mean, there were so many heroes that could have easily stomped out Ultron if they were a Guardian of the Multiverse.
I doubt that. You're talking about infinite Ultron right? The thing is there was no hero that could do it without evil doctor strange's help so at that point he picked by righteousness or faith or something, not power.
haha and who is that? Wanda? nope... Cpt Marvel? don't need no explanation... Thor? nope.... Dr Strange? obviously no.... Hulk? nooo
@@lordxoro8677 I meant as a team
@@jah2032 did you forget about teamwork?
@@ricozen0909 I'll talk about teamwork when you fix this damn door!!!
Pretty accurate for the most part of the list. But I am almost sure Supreme Spider Man is stronger than Star Lord T'Challa, Yondu and Killmonger. He is as fast as all this characters and is able to evade the majority of attack using Spider Sense + Flying. And he is physically stronger.
He's definitely stronger and faster than them, he could just evade their attacks and with his super strength kill them with one punch.
You forgot shuma gorath he is in doctor strange supreme in episode 9 the beast you know that’s huma gorath and he was able to hold ultron without being affected by infinite stone and was old ultron longer than anyone can
YES SIR
Ultron is straight up galactus at one pointtttt plus the stones so he is basically unkillable
Star Trek teir list next? I dunno if you're gonna separate the new and old series or disclude one entirely, but that'd be great.
And this is why making captain carter a member of the illuminati is stupid. What she gonna do? Throw dinner plates at wanda?
What if scarlet witch tho i want wandavision scarlet witch dude i wonder what tier shed be on
If we just go by the WandaVision show, she would be team buster, but after the show when she masters the book she is learning from, she may be higher. It will be interesting to see how strong she gets.
@@weeaboo-warrior still not more powerful than thor
@@Frozo-nt2ky lmao
@@Frozo-nt2ky zombie wanda alone can definitely dogwalk Thor.......
@@Frozo-nt2ky i expect someone like you to come up lol
8:30 That’s actually incorrect. She said that both Stranges are equally matched, therefore neither of them was more powerful because standard Strange either got a huge buff and/or evil Strange was nerfed a lot
Edit: You forgot to include Zola because he actually managed to defeat/delete Ultron completely, even with all the stones. But he should still be team buster of high super hero because Zola exploited the fact that Ultron was still a hackable Program, something which I doubt he could do to literally anyone else, but he is so incredibly smart he could find a way to defeat everyone else except for Watcher, evil Strange and probably Cpt. Marvel and Wanda.
Will we see a season 2 what if TL?
Yes, I will make it after I finish my Hunter x Hunter list
Ultron: universal
Supreme strange and watcher: galactic
nope watcher ain't galactic.... SS? doubt it
@@jah2032 how so? Watcher survived an explosion of a galaxy, and supreme strange at an explosion that was gonna destroy the galaxy
@@pkay4405 Watcher took multiple punches that sent him across universes, and SS didn't just survive he took it like nth. But ur maybe right.
Wait Mr ditkovich? did you fix bully maguire's door yet
@@jah2032 watcher survived ultoen eating galaxy, and I still haven’t got my rent 😔
@@pkay4405 stings doesn't?
let’s goooo
The zombies the what if episode is based off are super op, I’ve read the comics and well doesnt end well for anyone
I think captain carter & killmonger is on the same level. Because they both are supersoldier,. Which is on the main MCU universr Steve & Tchalla have simillar power. & the teori about super soldier serum are the simillar with purple potion from wakanda
They are on the same level, but Killmonger's suit makes him far more durable.
Imagine evil docter strange or the watcher with all the infinity stones.
WAKANDA FOREVER IS OUT SO THAT MEANS PHASE 4 IS OFFICIALY OVER AND CAN'T WAIT FOR THE UPDATED MCU STRENGTH AND POWER TIER LIST
Yep, I’ll Star working on that vid soon. It should be out in the next few months
@@weeaboo-warrior good i left alot of power scaling for phase 4 characters in your last mcu tier list in the comments so i hope you use them(also will you include the netflix shows?
@@weeaboo-warrior bro never made the vid 💀
@@AvatarM685 I'm literally working on it right now. It's almost done.
@@weeaboo-warrior ayyyyy, that's awesome 👍
Hey will you do Sea 3 of what if by any chance
@@Future_Edits2.0 most likely
@weeaboo-warrior can't wait
6:51 a blaster shot to the body vs repulser ray to the head
Yes, but this would just upscale the blasters potency. I was just pointing out that taking Ironman's repulse shot to the back of the head and getting back up is pretty impressive for a character like Maw.
@@weeaboo-warrior i agree
I would not say Ultron and watcher are universal but multiversal since in the guide book uatu is above the infinite multiverse and ultron beat him so making them 5d
There's a guidebook of MCU?
@@romansionis2470 yeay
What the heck we all remember Thor beating Captain Marvel and Hulk getting the upper hand on Wanda. Also Why is wasp higher than Loki, hulk, thanos, and loki
Watch the video and everything is explained.
True this video is biased
@@beckbrohanzam9802 How is it biased? I like Thor more than Captain Marvel and Hulk more than Wanda. I don’t like Wasp much at all.
Agree with all of it but I can’t see wasp beating hulk
First tier be like : 🎶im only human after alllll im only human after allll don’t put your blame on me don’t put your blame on me
I really want you to make a tier list power scaling video on the marvel or DC comic book universes
So Spider-Man holding back scarlet witch for just a second puts him a whole tier higher imo I mean they are the same amount of tiers apart as Korg and Thanos and I couldn’t picture Korg doing anything to touch thanos
High super hero: super hero that smokes
You forgot when killmonger got ultron armor the watcher even stated that if he and arnom Zola got out they would destroy universes bye fighting
The fact Strange Supreme had to protect the others makes me put him at the top of the tier above Watcher atleast
Why does that put him above Watcher?
@@weeaboo-warrior I think the fact the Watcher singled out Strange to keep the party together and had him deal with Ultron shows they're at least level
@@xaoc6084 that's because the Watcher isn't supposed to fight.
@@weeaboo-warrior Sure but he still does when Ultron attacks him. He also took Strange from a different universe and is that allowed?
@@xaoc6084 He bent the rules a bit, but he still didn't want to fight himself. Strange might be relative to him, but I would still give the Watcher the edge. He did break him out of the universe he couldn't escape from.
I m not sure if u like the series but if u do could u maybe do a pacific rim tier list?
I watched first one and thought it was ok. Maybe one day I’ll make one.
Nick fury that low? Oh brother this guy STINKS
I heard he sh*t himself when knocked out by Korg.
@@weeaboo-warrior damn
Infinity Ultron was confirmed-by the writers-to be destroying a random universe each punch he sent to reach another universe.
Can I see that statement?
@@weeaboo-warrior Correction to what I said before: It's on twitter
@@weeaboo-warrior "Also he’s legit punching across multiverses turning them into one messy universe soup." I was kinda wrong originally.
I agree with everything bit thor after ragnarok is stronger then what if thor but thor before ragnarok is weaker
Good strange should be just below vision as strange is generally op and he was amped by wong
I doubt the watcher is stronger than strange Supreme and also your logic is almost flawless but you kind of over hyped captain marvel as she was amped by the infinity stones on Ultron to even do anything and party Thor was also joking around in that fight and I doubt 10 nukes would be enough since the infinity war feat wich was a weakend main Thor was low balled the equivalent of 23 Tsar Bomba
Hank pim in ant man suit with preparation time can be a team buster or at least a few tears higher.
Idk, he got slapped up by Loki.
Fucking auto correct changing preparation to perception embarrassing me in front of hundreds of people.
@@darkplayer237 haha, it makes more sense now
They should make episode called "What If Infinity Ultron won?".
JUST A QUESTIAN
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF KEY ISSUES RANKING EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER IN THE MCU TEIR LIST?
From what I remember I disagree with their list.
@@weeaboo-warrior do you think putting the luke cage and iron fist characters were to low,they were below low super soldier
@@natashascullion5241 I haven’t watched that show, so I don’t know.
@@weeaboo-warrior what did you think aboat the eternals placements?
T'challa Starlord is at most peak human and arguably Agent Carter has better showings
Will the One Above all be in season 2? Because that will make this show a legend beyond legends.
I doubt because it's like asking whether God will be in your civil war.
@@lordxoro8677 well if Sentry and the rest can't be in the shows either then who will?
Thanks
Bro that like with I was holding back to not put a crater in the earth so annoying. Can't give Thor a win wow. Plus she could easily let lose her power in the air
6:37 In the subtitles, they give him the correct name “Black Dwarf”.
Infinity ultron is also stronger than most Marvel 616 characters, he would be top 15 easily if not higher
Honestly rexy was a elder at the time your basically sending a teenager against an elder how well that work out?
Now do this with the entire MCU
I already did. At least up to phase 3.
Does Dormammu count as 'life' in the multiverse though.
I'd put Arnim Zola and Killmonger with the infinity stones on the list. Probably Zola on the same level as ultron and killmonger slightly lower
Every character comes way below Ultron. Ultron and Infinity Ultron are the same thing. Initially only Ultron existed, whatever he became after that was done by him himself. It's like you don't differentiate kid 5 year old Thanos with the adult Avengers Thanos. They're the same person.
Thanos was stupid nerfed in this show
9:01 agreed the mean timeline thor is stronger than whatif party thor
How in the actoul hell did u put Spider-Man at the same level at low strength feat he should at least be the same level as the mid level heroes
How can star Lord tchalla defeat captain Carter or Bucky? Please someone explain. Makes no sense to me
He has good equipment and good feats. Normal Star Lord was able to get the better of Ironman and Soiderman in their nanotech suites.
@@weeaboo-warrior I’m sorry but that’s just a lie. I rewatched infinity war, it was even . StarLord held Peter hostage while Tony held Drax. And even before that it wasn’t clear he could win if they fought. If he had Ego’s powers it would be obvious but now that he doesn’t I’m sorry I don’t see any way Captain Carter wouldn’t wreck StarLord tchalla, all he has over her is flight and cunning, that won’t be enough. No way he can take her or Bucky, he’ll even get a tough time with Widow.
@@nickgggc He magnetized Ironman to a wall, then captured Peter while Ironman broke free and then captured Drax.
@@weeaboo-warrior still doesn’t prove how he would defeat Captain Carter/Bucky who are durable and resourceful as well. Not saying it would be easy but they’d win in my honest opinion. Maybe do a video about this, so your community can debate? Lol. Very sure I’m not alone in these thoughts
@@nickgggc They could very possibly win. Honestly I wouldn’t have a problem dropping him a tier, or raising Carter up a tier.
u forgot thanos with stones who gets cut in half
Wait, i just remembered something. Wasn't nick fury able to resurrect agent coulson with something? What if he plans on resurrecting the dead avengers(excluding hulk, he's done for good).
Nost of ultrons power was literally dependent on the reality stone
The only problem I see is Hank Pym is too low on the list and the wasp is too high they have the same power sets except the wasp can fly, Loki is too low compared to the wasp because if he beat hank Pym he would also be able to beat the wasp I think that hank and wasp should be decently high bc they are using quantum energy which is powerful and Loki should be one tier above them because he absolutely destroyed hank
Pym can fly too
Captain Marvel is ridiculously op character, no god, no stones, no power absorb and still.
Strange could defeat ultron, but the multiverse would be destroyed if he used his full power vs him, so he holded back and found another way to defeat ultron
Do you have evidence to back that claim?
Spider man if we’re basing on full power would probably be higher but this is just in the show soo