Can you find the beat in this Zappa tune? [Echidna's Arf analysis]

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  • Опубліковано 25 лип 2023
  • Albano the Madman's "Titan Arum": • TITAN ARUM (Original)
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  • @SamuelRHoward
    @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому +2

    IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUT to me that I completely and utterly bungled the perspective of the guitar chord diagrams! Here is a fixed version of the major 7th chord - from the perspective of somebody sitting opposite the guitar. instagram.com/p/CvWaXdjyyQa/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
    Albano the Madman's "Titan Arum": ua-cam.com/video/lckMe7WkQwI/v-deo.html
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    This is only the coda of Echidna's Arf! Perhaps I'll look at the rest of the tune some other time, but this is certainly the most interesting part, although there are other contenders within the tune.

  • @HoraceMash
    @HoraceMash 10 місяців тому +5

    This is terrific! The rhythms on the Roxy version have been driving me insane for years. Thank you so much for taking the time to figure this out and explain it so beautifully. This is truly a great service to humanity.🎉

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the kind remarks! Glad you found it helpful. The Roxy version gets very hariy very fast, but I love it still.

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother 10 місяців тому +3

    i hear a woody shaw influence in the mercenaries stuff. big ups!

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому +1

      Cheers fella! You’re not wrong. Love rosewood, especially sunshowers. Nicked some of the cadence ideas from Don Ellis as well, strawberry soup

  • @Arfshesaid457
    @Arfshesaid457 10 місяців тому +3

    Fantastic, thank you. I'll be watching this more to absorb the insights.

  • @KarlKarsnark
    @KarlKarsnark 10 місяців тому +1

    EVH and Alan Holdworth would do similar sorts of things with "Symetrical Scales" that used a single repeating fingering pattern across the strings to create novel "scales"/patterns.Great for faster "shred" passages too.

  • @NorthEast
    @NorthEast 10 місяців тому +1

    Zappa wrote Sonic the Hedgehog game music. That's what I learned 💭

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому +2

      I actually considered using knuckle's theme tune as the background music in the beginning explanation instead of the audio from the roxy film, but decided it might be lost on some of the older Zappa enthusiasts

    • @NorthEast
      @NorthEast 10 місяців тому

      @@SamuelRHoward Ha! I love that you hear it too. If you are familiar with the music, it's clearly written in the same manner. But you probably made the right choice there. Enthusiasts could have taken it the wrong way, even tho it's actually a compliment. Cheers!

  • @NickHolum
    @NickHolum 10 місяців тому

    This is pure creative genius explained. I can’t thank you enough!

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      Thanks very much for watching, I’m glad you found the explanations helpful!

  • @no_notes1229
    @no_notes1229 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent! Inspiring - will experiment with this. Looking forward to the Dog Breath video!

  • @KarmaMechanic988
    @KarmaMechanic988 5 місяців тому +2

    " watch Ruth" ..

    • @Kram62
      @Kram62 4 місяці тому

      …”that’s Ruth.” YCDTOSA vol. 2 Helsinki!

  • @rillloudmother
    @rillloudmother 10 місяців тому +1

    your guitar neck diagrams make my eyes bleed, but your harmonic and rhythmic analysis are spot on to me.
    edit: are

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      Cheers mate! Re the diagrams if it’s an accessibility issue I’m unaware of, my apologies! If not, then I have faith in your recovery.

    • @rillloudmother
      @rillloudmother 10 місяців тому +2

      @@SamuelRHoward lol, you have them wrong way 'round, mate.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      @@rillloudmother fuck a priest, you’re right as well, I never flipped the image before the highlights!

    • @rillloudmother
      @rillloudmother 10 місяців тому

      @@SamuelRHoward i flatly refuse, but iirc your major 7ths look like rootless dominant 7th 13 #9 voicings.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      @@rillloudmother yep, you’re spot on - the perspective is completely buggered

  • @-WillAlone-
    @-WillAlone- 10 місяців тому +2

    Would you like to use my nakin?

  • @TheBigBosske
    @TheBigBosske 10 місяців тому

    I always though it was based on Nicolas Slonimsky's "Thesarus of Scales and Melodic Patterns."??? Do you know it and can you confirm it is?

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому +1

      I know and have the Slonimsky book, and have used it myself, but I don’t know if any of the ideas from this part of this tune were directly derived from it. Zappa described the book as ‘the improviser’s bible’, so perhaps he had some things memorised which came out in this tune when he worked it out on guitar (which I’m sure at least one half of it was worked out on guitar for reasons stated in the vid). Ultimately I’m not sure, but if anybody has any sources that suggest he got this idea specifically from Slonimsky, I’d love to see it!

    • @TheBigBosske
      @TheBigBosske 10 місяців тому +1

      I play keyboard, this part fails me all the time... I need some mnemonic tips :) It does look much simpler on guitar indeed.

    • @SamuelRHoward
      @SamuelRHoward  10 місяців тому

      @@TheBigBosske it's certainly harder on keyboard, especially if you're also playing the left hand in 5/16 all the way through!

  • @kylesanchez8790
    @kylesanchez8790 9 місяців тому

    *promo sm*