Yea. Seeing party Dem party thralls pretending their team is faultless makes me more certain everyday that we’ll never be able to avoid a war in toppling the current oligarchs. Some of the last hope people have is that their team will pull through and make everything better. It’s a sad fantasy that keeps them going.
@Establishment Shill-Troll Spot on. Hartmann IS a Hack for Dim Dummies and overly emotional flailing snowflakes. Politics is policy for the nation and definitely NOT celebrity and party cult worship. The damned inauguration stage photo looked like THE MASKED MARAUDERS CULT takes over America.
Democrats are good cop. They always put on the optics of helping but never win or get anything done. If your big victory is a hand clap or ripping paper...
To believe that Trump is "actually good" (QAnon) or that Obama/Pelosi is "actually good" (BlueAnon) is a deep propaganda line of US capitalist propaganda.
He was delusional long before he said that. He was claiming the Southerners were the Oligarchs in the Civil War, the North was financially destroying the South long before the Civil War. Their history of wage slavery was much more efficient than the South's overt slave system.
EARLY stage oligarchy?! When the will of the people is currently not being entertained in the slightest, how are we not already in a full-blown oligarchy?
Start with Democracy Dollars... wash out lobbying cash by a factor of 4 to 1. They will be forced to listen to the people then, because we’ll just cut their funding if they don’t 😀
let's not kid ourselves without the complicity of the top 9% the top 1% could not maintain any power over the bottom 90% .. in fact that 9% owns 60% of the wealth....
Thom Hartmann used to push these ideas, including an amendment, he had Bernie Sanders on his show once a week for an hour talking to callers. Yet he was unwilling to call out the oligarchy of the Democratic Party and put support behind Bernie in 2015 -2016.
Thank you for having Thom Hartmann an intelectual who gives an excellent analysis of the current oligarchy who hold all the political and economic power.
@@progKansas hes defintely a neoliberal. he may jhust be a more honest one. unless he just hates bernie sanders, because everything he said in the past 5 years was against him
It's why "belief" is so dangerous, making sense of one thing doesn't mean we have to approve of everything. Everyone of us has and always have great ideas or thoughts and feelings that makes sense but not every word is gold - so we shouldn't accept their truth since we are not them, the same as you are not me, and that your husband, wife or partner are not you but we all sometimes agree on some things but not everything. This is because we think because we are, we have our own individual consciousness, figuring things out, living life the best way we can from the knowledge we gain and the learning process from our own individual experiences. However we seem to lose the ability to discern other's thoughts and feelings where we may agree with them on some things but not everything. How should we define harmony with each other if we cannot find common ground with our neighbors, friends or family? How can we make our country great, if we use "belief" in our thinking processes instead of "figuring things out" instead by thinking the way we want instead of others spoon feeding us information which at times does seem wrong, since usually those who coerce a particular view usually is made because it has an agenda to push behind it. It's probably why we have an oligarchy now instead of a true democracy since we are so used to being spoon-fed information that it's hard for us individually to escape "belief" and to instead "discern" truth from lies, honesty from deception. So in order to understand harmony where we can all live together, rich with the poor, the white along with the black and brown and yellow and red, the old and the young, we must be able to develop understanding and have the capability and ability to discern, to know and not believe, where we can all live together. It's like listening to classical music, the sound one hears in these performance can only be harmonic if each of the musical instruments can work together. Those in power must understand that we need each other in order to keep our nation whole and in good form, but it does not come about if the American folk lies asleep and keeps "believing" lies which may in the end, may spell the doom for us all since the law of cause and effect is immutable where in some time in the future that swing of the pendulum will also hit us with terrible force. We see this already in climate change and in the terrible havoc we are facing with the corona virus pandemic. So we must wake up from belief, this way we are not lured into false promises where a lot of folks as well as the individual gets taken advantage of. And when we actually can think individually without coercion or belief, we can live a brighter tomorrow since by this time we can respect each other no matter our station in life, our color, world views, age, wealth or creed.
He called it a young oligarchy, they(88 corps) have been cooperating together and breaking into political offices to learn dirt on politicians that wouldn’t accept their bribes since 1971, why does thom think pelosi will fix this with legislation lol we need to all organize our communities into worker cooperatives like mondragon but once that becomes popular they will probably just mobilize an ethnic cleansing like they did in Yugoslavia after the ussr fell
I agree that large banks and other large donors have large influence, however the gold standard doesn't allow for effective market adjustments during recessions. Hopefully we can find a way to get money out of politics while having a stable economy. Have a good day :)
Haven't even watched this yet, but seeing as how it's Thom Hartmann, I'm betting that a large part of his plan is: "Continue electing Democrats until the heat death of the universe."
🤣🤣🤣 Tom is a devout old school dem! That type of dem has turned into the Vichy DNC with the coronation of and installation of Vegetable Joe into the head of a decaying empire! No worries the American Taliban will capture power in 2022 sparking the 2nd US civil war ! If there is still an intact nation in 2024 then they will also capture the White House too! Why ? The Vichy DNC has done absolutely nothing to aid a desperate populace during a pandemic and a depression! NO M4A NO MONTHLY UBI NO STUDENT DEBT JUBILEE NO FEDERAL JOBS GUARANTEE! Way passed time to put on a Yellow Vest and grind the process of governance and the economy to halt! Politics is a game of fear ! We the people are many the Uber rich are few !
Well, yeah? I'm pretty sure Thom identifies as a radical centrist, and considering his world travels and experiences I would guess he's going off of a worldwide perspective. Overton window and all that. He only comes across as left because the US is too far right.
It’s crazy that people automatically assume political bias when someone is advocating for current legislative / election improvements Sorry republicans are so bad that you think that.
I used to listen to Thom Hartmann's radio show every day. I never missed the "Brunch with Bernie" segment every Friday at noon. I was absolutely amazed and appalled in 2016 when Thom refused to go all in for Bernie in his presidential campaign. Instead he proceeded to sound like a paid operative for Hillary Clinton. This shilling for Hillary was hypocrisy to me at the highest level. I haven't listened since. (I actually had to mute this interview while writing this...sorry Krystal and Saagar.) He used to have sound clips from FDR on his show, but when he had a chance to support an FDR-like candidate, he chose to sit on his microphone. I believe voices like his, along with Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Bill Maher and others, could have made a difference in that campaign, and helped to encourage the Democratic party to nominate the person who would have beaten a vapid, reality show host. These people, who I thought to be true progressives, turned out to be establishment Democrats after all. Shame on me for being so duped; shame on them for the hypocrisy.
Same experience here. I listened to his radio show constantly back in the 2014-2016 times, and he is absolutely a smart guy, but he unfortunately fell into the same trap of RussiaGating and becoming just another democratic party tool that ruined other progressive shows like Democracy Now. A real shame, but in the long run these realignments are very revealing and useful I think.
You guys are out of touch with reality. Everything he said is true. Republican s has always been for the rich corporate American. From late 1890s to 1929,causing the depression. Collapse.,democratic administration s has always handled economics an civil society better in this country. So, Ronald Regan is definitely the cause of alot of this coming back like he said. Also, remember Republican s never wanted Medicare., social security, department of education, department of house for low income, the poor. You no the safety net as we called it The all Voted against IT. An tried to over turn it again but, failed. Why do you think all of Republican congress wants to get rid of SSI. MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY. WELFARE.
@UA-camwill Deletemyaccount it is the exact same accusations they made against both George W. Bush and Donald Trump with literally no proof at all. Except where Joe Biden is concerned, there is decades of proof not only of that but of his war crimes both foreign and domestic. The man is a psychopath. He’s everything the left accused Trump of being and worse. I will not acknowledge any United States president other than Donald Trump. I will not acknowledge the authority of any white man other than Donald Trump.
Thank God (I mean that literally) for people like Thom Hartmann who can explain what’s going on in our government AND how we can fix it. Unless we understand the movements that transform our government we can’t see what’s happening. Even better is to be able to see things in a historical context.
@@jimmyr9468 Trump being bad doesn't make Nancy good. The problem with people like Nancy is the media and people like you run interference for them. If all politicians were covered like Trump that would probly help.
@@jimmyr9468 what Trump disaster? Gas was cheap, jobs were plentiful, but the oligarchs couldn’t have that so they collaborated with the Chinese communist party to create a pandemic just to hurt as many people as they could as long as Trump was one of them. They are literally willing to let poor people die in the streets as long as they can use the law to bully Donald Trump and his supporters.
He had me until he said "Republican Oligarchs" too. No Thom it's all the Oligarchs, Republican AND Democratic. Shame Thom, you would still carry democratic water buckets when you could tell the truth
He had Sanders on his show for a while and has ppl like Ro Khanna on in the present. I mean, the way to create pressure is to put pressure in the primaries rather than wait for the general.
@@NotShowingOff I started following Bernie because of his "Brunch with Bernie" segments, of course, as soon as Bernie started running against Hillary, he was unceremoniously dumped from the show, and now he's stanning for Warren. You know, the snake? Yeah, he lost all credibility in 2015 and has done nothing to regain it since
Bluebelle51 he does have Richard Wolff on the show. And Democracy at Work is an excellent channel. I wouldn’t blame someone for supporting Warren over Sanders. The truth is you need hundreds more of either.
He called America an 'early stage oligarchy' and said 'oligarchy ends in a facist police state or it collapses back into democracy', so yeah, he at least said that America is on its way to being a police state.
Because he is cia left gater. This guy wrote a COMPLETE BULLSHIT COVER BOOK about the Kennedy assassination and DID NOT EVEN KNOW Kennedy started the US gov printing money; took it away from the "Fed". (That was NOT the only reason Kennedy was put on the hit list btw)
@@stutzbearcat5624 Not sure what you mean about Kennedy starting the government printing money--but if he did, he sure wasn't the first: Lincoln financed the Civil War with greenbacks, which weren't backed by anything but the full faith and credit of the government. There's nothing wrong with the government printing money: the Constitution gives that power to Congress.
@@lawsonj39 No you have no idea what I mean. Paper money is printed thru the Federal Reserve Bank. They took it over sometime around 1913-1914 - it is basically how they can control the economy. Kennedy realized it gave the "banking cartel" to much power and took it back. This of course they were less than pleased by. I have read close to 100 books on the Kennedy assassination - many 2-3-4 times. The best book on it ive encountered is James Douglass 'JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE'.
The history of US oligarchy sounded valid, but then Hartmann said Nancy Pelosi was going to help save us from oligarchy with HR1. Pelosi IS oligarchy (based on her wealth) and she defends oligarchy (based on her actions), so that argument seems ridiculous at best. Didn’t Hartmann support oligarchy (Clinton) in 2016? I think he lost credibility on this issue for that reason alone.
I'm thankful to Thom for the part he played in moving me to the left back during the Bush administration, especially with the Brunch with Bernie segments he had on his show every Friday. Having said that, he just helped elect Biden, the definition of an oligarch.
Thank you for having Thom on. It was great to see the three of you interact, because I watch both shows. Saagar, I could tell you did not like/agree with all of Thom's ideas & recommendations. Thank you for being a good sport about it. It made for a better interview , than if it had turned contentious.
Words don't hold to specific meanings in this country because duplicity is everything. People don't care about direct honest communication, they avoid it like the plague, part of this is accomplished in the blurry vocabulary and allowing inappropriate vernacular uses to become the new traditionally understood meaning well retaining the original specific definitions only for scientific, academic and, legal documents..... The powers don't want the populace to think of this as a republic because a republic is the idea of the rule of law universally applied and the powers prefer to live comfortably above the law, this is ever been a trait of the aristocrats and, you can tell they're on their way back when you look at all the self-proclaimed Gentry villages/neighborhoods that exist across the United States. If one thinks about the origins of the phrase a sense of entitlement it should become clear the last thing the world needs is more aristocrats
You are the one that's a simp ....He gets it on levels you dont quite get yet...his alliance with dems is purely to avoid the fascist direction of the right which plays directly into the habds of the oligarchs....as youve clearly seen...the only way to get anywhere is to change the vehicle of the dems and use it to open up other areas.....the alternative is a devolution into a police state.....Myanmar latest example among the ones he mentioned
@@snoopy_peanuts_77 No, Thom Hartmann has been an over the top Russiagater for the last four years and a complete bootlicker for the DNC. I watched him for over 10 years, but once Hillary's emails came out along with John Podesta's and the DNC's showing how they had rigged the 2016 Primary, he went whole hog with the whole Hillary was cheated by the Russkies nonsense. He really became unlistenable to unless you believe the easily disprovable DNC propaganda.
@@dragonbutt1218 you can disagree with Thom without shyting on him...and oligarchy knows no borders and if you think the ex kgb oil oligarch Putin does not want us destabilized the way we destabilize southern countries you've been drinking the Jimmy Dore too hard...you're gonna need to walk and chew gum to navigate this mess and knee-jerk reactions like that is what lead to people trying to ally with snakes like tucker carlson
@@snoopy_peanuts_77 oh please. No-one is saying Putin is a good guy. But literally everything that bad happens isn't Russia. Why don't they ever mention China? Where was that spy from that was having relationships with Democrat politicians again? Democrats are not anti-police state. Look at the new domestic terrorism bill. I know many probly don't mind because they think it's guna get the "Fascists" but please don't kid yourself, it will be abused and used against all Americans including your lefty friends.
Please keep pushing this topic! So much could be solved if we can get corporate money out of politics, all civilian donations to elected officials made public, tougher laws around corruption, and we can figure solid policy (min wage, taxes, education, healthcare, etc) to fix the wealth gap problem in this country. Russia is the perfect example of what can happen if we keep going down this road.
You are correct, to a large degree, a police state has developed. This has driven calls to defund the police state, but because of the way many engage in politics as though it were a competition between sports teams, the fan(atic)s pay little or no attention to the problems the oligarchs implement behind their favorite team and just focus on hating the other team and support the developing police state.
I appreciate Thom’s comments and insight, but I think some crucial history is missing here. The reason we had a more equitable society with high tax rates for the rich and robust social programs for a time was not just because FDR was a good guy or something. It’s because there was a huge worker movement in the US at that time and a historic amount of socialist and communist membership at the time. FDR knew that if he didn’t appease them it would be bad for him politically because those groups were very influential and UNIFIED around worker rights and ending the wealth gap. We know Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want money out of politics! She just got caught in that Tesla stock mess. Y’all reported on that. Thom made it sound as though this is more of a republican thing and I don’t understand why. Pelosi isn’t not going to put that bill on the floor unless she knows it won’t go anywhere. Neither would McConnel If you want these policies to be legislated, outside pressure is mandatory not optional. We can’t keep electing people on good faith and moral fortitude. We have to build outside pressure through worker solidarity so we can have a say in things. The electoral system is too corrupted for us to take it on good faith that eventually someone who cares about us will do the right thing and reject every incentive along the way to do the opposite.
No change will come until folks like Hartman realize both sides are propping up the oligarchs. I think it's pretty naive for him to think the democrats are going to be the ones to save us, especially when Wall St overwhelmingly supported D candidates over R ones in the recent election cycle. He should settle in for a nice, warm cup of disappointment...
He's absolutely right. But seems to think corporate democrats will change it - the only time they truly fought was when the populace wanted Bernie - who is the only one who would have tried to change it!
I Love Bernie ! We Need Billions and Billions , Trillions of Bernies Supporters around the World. He Seems to Be Quite the Unicorn , I better See him in Heaven on Earth next dimension.
*Thank you!* Between this and that Ted Talk on Tweedism, perhaps I can steer my family away from partisan insanity. As for the oligarchs * *pulls down ski mask* * ... sorry it's cold here in Minnesota and I'm outside playing with the puppy while typing this, what were we talking about?
It's not just American oligarchy but global oligarchy that is entrenching itself regardless of they dysfunction it produces. Hartman's analysis is superficial at best.
I consider myself apolitical but this show leans more populous Left than Right with its guests. Can we get more right leaning guests such as Glen Loury and Kmele Foster and some center-left guests such as John McWhorter who is coming out with a book soon? This show could use more balance.
I’m a huge fan of all those folks and I’d love to see them here, as I do anywhere, but public intellectuals aren’t generally in Rising’s wheelhouse. Most of the guests/panelists are journalists or political strategists. Although...they’ve had Bret Weinstein and Eric Weinstein on (both discussed the political divide), so maybe they’ll start casting a wider net and discuss more social issues. It would be great for the show and its viewers. Fingers crossed.
@@ATMyles Yes. Fingers crossed. They often have Zaid on to discuss social issues and they have authors on quite often. John McWhorter is coming out with a book and Glen Loury and Kmele can discuss social issues when they arise again (and they will arise again).
One big problem: The more diversity of culture and moral narratives in the country, the more dysfunctional democracy becomes. Just as oligarchy collapses into totalitarianism, democracy collapses into the tyranny of the majority, or mob rule. For either of these political systems to remain functional, we must embrace reasoned and dispassionate debate as our ONLY acceptable form of political communication. Competency and moral strength are the two major failings in our political discourse right now. I am so glad The Hill embodies both of these virtues.
Unspoken, but vital, is that voting for republicans and/or democrats MUST END. We *desperately* need more competition in our political sphere and we're not going to get it unless we stop voting for the two political parties that are the instruments of the ruling elites.
Not so sure you're right. We already have a variety of parties, and the New Deal essentially left the party duopoly in place but distributed power a lot more widely--though not widely enough, as it turns out.
@@lawsonj39 Does anyone *seriously* believe either major political party is going to reform itself? Americans are polled near to death. Our elected representatives know where we stand. Has it been reflected in their behavior? Absolutely not. My point is to start voting third-party for two reasons. It's a more effective protest vote than holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils. And, it may help to dispel the "wasted vote" mindset and wind up actually getting some third-party candidates elected to office.
Was with ths guy until the end when he said the person to fix Wall Street is Elizabeth Warren. Just because we want to get rid of Big Brother Wall Street doesn't mean we want Big Mommy Government to take it's place.
Strange when Wall Street basically changed all the rules & Regulations via big Mommy Government to suit their OWN best interests, so they had their own power control on the levers. Via Wall Street to Government positions with usually these rather funny Jewish names. Most of them ending in useless for the masses.
People get sick of being worked to death to get nowhere. Housing gets out of reach, putting them back into serfdom, and each day is a challenge just to py bills and eat. They have no time or energy to do anything else,
@@thejquinn where in my sentence did i refer to this conversation? I am talking about as a whole. Thom used to be bearable until about 2017. His views changed and he started becoming rachel maddow. I swear i was watching msnbc
@@thejquinn i didnt bash him i stated something factual. Also i watch rising and he happened to be a guest on their show so i made a comment about my opinion and how i believe he went down hill and became more of a conspiracy wielding rachel maddow instead of a progressive fighter like he use to be.
Thom has a lot of great information BUT he's become a big defender of the DNC and dem party as a whole. I was shocked how he defended biden and harris in the primary (even though he said he was wanting bernie or warren) and now cuts people off of his show when they are bashing biden and the corporate dems.
Really not a fan of the idea that things will just magically get better or worse someday in the mystical future when I'm probably 80 and still working because I can't afford to retire. That's what they want. They want us to just hope someday maybe things will be better....just get back to work at your minimum wage job and stay too tired and stressed and depressed to rise up.
Government is the answer? All governments now throughout history demonstrate one predominant goal, which is to establish and sustain power for the people who have it. We need a healthy decentralization, not more complex "regulations" (i.e. gatekeeper laws) that inevitably are filtered through wealthy desires.
I mean if he's right/leans right there isn't much he can really say on it. Republican politicians and donors want the oligarchy protected for sure and only speak to the middle class to get red state middle and poors to vote for them. Republican elites pledge allegiance to the budget
An oligarch is a single individual that controls an entire sector of the economy. John D. Rockefeller was very close to being an oligarch by controlling 90% of the oil; 100% is an oligarch. In Russia during the time of the Soviet Union and presently there are oligarchs that control entire sectors of the economy. In the US we have an oligopoly (monopoly of the few) with several corporations controlling entire sectors of the economy. Corporatism started in the 1990s with the government allowing corporations to acquisition (buy) entire sectors of the economy. The government controls the regulations that allow it and disallows competition against it, and the oligops pay the government back by basically paying for everything. Reverse the economic policies of the 1990s and reverse the economic situation we're in. And then the new headache will be the number of choices we have in both higher paying jobs and consumer goods.
I'm still betting we have an economic collapse before we have any real legislation to fix it. Wall St was smart enough to tie the middle class to their casino scheme through pensions, no one wants to jeopardize their retirement. That's what keeps the establishment large and in charge!!
I fear we would need such an extreme collapse it shuts down the government and the FED. We have had collapses and they did everything they could to save wall street.
@@dennismitchell5276 Agreed, with every crisis they bail out the rich. I just think greed has its own demise built in, you can only over leverage and inflate something for so long until it blows. Only a matter of time.
One obvious sign of oligarchy, the highest court has ruled that corporations are people too. Think twice before insulting them, or the people owning them!
Shop at a farmer's market, butcher, and baker. STOP supporting massive corporations that use tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes. Stop taking cruises, flights, and hotel stays in companies that base themselves in other countries. Many companies fraudulently pose as American but a based in places like the Barbados to avoid paying taxes. STOP purchasing goods that are supported and made with prison labor. It's your duty as and American to research where you spend your hard earned dollars. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.
@@katra777 God forbid he maybe choose to let someone talk. Not to mention the guy couldn't even pronounce his name properly. Also, there are plenty of interviews on Rising where Saagar takes the lead and Krystal is mostly quiet by comparison. You Saagar hate-watchers are just sad.
we've always been an oligarchy. Our founders wanted an oligarchy. We don't have a democracy. if only up to a quarter of the population chooses the winner of our elections, that's not a democracy. Our constitutional republic is an oligarchy.
Thom Hartman's books are good and what he says is good but he loses me on Blue no matter who I believe he leans towards the establishment because of advertisers on XM Radio
Believing that politicians will save the people is as stupid as believing the oligarchs will, only the people, united, organized and informed can end the nightmare and make the dreams of every human heart into reality.
It’s government industrial complex...the answer is supporting small business and not allowing government bail out large corporations. But that’s what the government has been doing with the public’s tax dollars.
@Establishment Shill-Troll well if Hartman knew what a follow up question was he could have said "did I pronounce that right?" but he's not used to that kind of thing
they say that the rich should pay their fair share of tax and yet the same people who are making these statements are also part of the rich?=so nothing happens to the rich....
I agreed with everything until he said “Republican Oligarchs.” There are just oligarchs here; Democrat and Republican, make no mistake.
If there's a twinkling of light in politics, it's definitely on the Democratic side. It's nigh-on undetectable no matter where.
Yea. Seeing party Dem party thralls pretending their team is faultless makes me more certain everyday that we’ll never be able to avoid a war in toppling the current oligarchs. Some of the last hope people have is that their team will pull through and make everything better. It’s a sad fantasy that keeps them going.
@Establishment Shill-Troll Spot on. Hartmann IS a Hack for Dim Dummies and overly emotional flailing snowflakes. Politics is policy for the nation and definitely NOT celebrity and party cult worship. The damned inauguration stage photo looked like THE MASKED MARAUDERS CULT takes over America.
@Establishment Shill-Troll ... also..."turns out.... the American People don't want much of anything at all"....
Democrats are good cop. They always put on the optics of helping but never win or get anything done. If your big victory is a hand clap or ripping paper...
he sounded smart until he started saying that he thought Pelosi was trying to do something about money in politics...
Dem shill. He lost all credibility with that bullshit.
Yup. Lost all credibility when he tried to make HR1 sound good.
To believe that Trump is "actually good" (QAnon) or that Obama/Pelosi is "actually good" (BlueAnon) is a deep propaganda line of US capitalist propaganda.
C'mon now, Pelosi IS trying to do something about money in politics...
She is trying to funnel it all in her direction!
He was delusional long before he said that. He was claiming the Southerners were the Oligarchs in the Civil War, the North was financially destroying the South long before the Civil War. Their history of wage slavery was much more efficient than the South's overt slave system.
Thom Hartmann is who I imagine David Pakman’s dad would be
Pakman is Sam Seder but without the charm. lol
Yes and Sam cedar is Packman‘s older brother
@@darensweeney5925 Sam seder is charming? To who?
LOL ikr! Watch Pakman interview him, the optics are hilarious.
He might have played pacman.
Get rid of Lobbyists, end Citizens United, put Term limits in Congress.
And stop market manipulations, returning us to a free market society.
@@dawnthomsenminenga2290 and stock buy backs.
@@dawnthomsenminenga2290 market manipulation IS free market
put term limits on everyone.
EARLY stage oligarchy?! When the will of the people is currently not being entertained in the slightest, how are we not already in a full-blown oligarchy?
Don’t kid yourself. We are living in a dictatorship.
Hartmann's point is that there's still a chance to fight our way back to democracy.
I was hoping it was the High Renaissance of Oligarchy...
Feels like they’re at the stage where their only defense is to completely drown people in bullshit and conspiracy theories.
because losers, liars and propaganda pushers all want the same thing. to be apart of the big club.
The problem is the politicians who we are depending on the help the people restore democracy are owned by said billionaires.... so...
We need to execute those politicians
Start with Democracy Dollars... wash out lobbying cash by a factor of 4 to 1. They will be forced to listen to the people then, because we’ll just cut their funding if they don’t 😀
@@robtamanobay9595 The anti-gun movement helps the oligarchy by making that harder.
We need to replace all of them. At once.
@@Attmay all we need to do is kill a couple prominent ones and they'll back off. Or maybe soft target, like a relative
let's not kid ourselves without the complicity of the top 9% the top 1% could not maintain any power over the bottom 90% .. in fact that 9% owns 60% of the wealth....
Yeah, cause the lower class people aren't funding amazon, google, Facebook, and twitter with their undying servitude.
@skywave dxer yeah? So which one are you?
@skywave dxer ah yes the lumpers and the splitters... but why quibble it sucks
@skywave dxer does Thomas Hartman fit into one of these?
Thom Hartmann used to push these ideas, including an amendment, he had Bernie Sanders on his show once a week for an hour talking to callers.
Yet he was unwilling to call out the oligarchy of the Democratic Party and put support behind Bernie in 2015 -2016.
Seems more like a "MY Oligarchy instead of YOUR Oligarchy"...
NO, it's OUR Oligarchy you dissident.
/s.
Thank you for having Thom Hartmann an intelectual who gives an excellent analysis of the current oligarchy who hold all the political and economic power.
I have mixed feelings about Hartmann. Yes, he seems like a progressive, but he's also been a champion of Russiagate and Blue No Matter Who.
But he is not a neoliberal. See if you can talk to him on air.
@@progKansas hes defintely a neoliberal. he may jhust be a more honest one. unless he just hates bernie sanders, because everything he said in the past 5 years was against him
Support him where the issues align, don't support him. Problem solved. That way you are not locked in defending crap you disagree with.
It's why "belief" is so dangerous, making sense of one thing doesn't mean we have to approve of everything. Everyone of us has and always have great ideas or thoughts and feelings that makes sense but not every word is gold - so we shouldn't accept their truth since we are not them, the same as you are not me, and that your husband, wife or partner are not you but we all sometimes agree on some things but not everything. This is because we think because we are, we have our own individual consciousness, figuring things out, living life the best way we can from the knowledge we gain and the learning process from our own individual experiences.
However we seem to lose the ability to discern other's thoughts and feelings where we may agree with them on some things but not everything. How should we define harmony with each other if we cannot find common ground with our neighbors, friends or family? How can we make our country great, if we use "belief" in our thinking processes instead of "figuring things out" instead by thinking the way we want instead of others spoon feeding us information which at times does seem wrong, since usually those who coerce a particular view usually is made because it has an agenda to push behind it. It's probably why we have an oligarchy now instead of a true democracy since we are so used to being spoon-fed information that it's hard for us individually to escape "belief" and to instead "discern" truth from lies, honesty from deception. So in order to understand harmony where we can all live together, rich with the poor, the white along with the black and brown and yellow and red, the old and the young, we must be able to develop understanding and have the capability and ability to discern, to know and not believe, where we can all live together. It's like listening to classical music, the sound one hears in these performance can only be harmonic if each of the musical instruments can work together. Those in power must understand that we need each other in order to keep our nation whole and in good form, but it does not come about if the American folk lies asleep and keeps "believing" lies which may in the end, may spell the doom for us all since the law of cause and effect is immutable where in some time in the future that swing of the pendulum will also hit us with terrible force. We see this already in climate change and in the terrible havoc we are facing with the corona virus pandemic. So we must wake up from belief, this way we are not lured into false promises where a lot of folks as well as the individual gets taken advantage of. And when we actually can think individually without coercion or belief, we can live a brighter tomorrow since by this time we can respect each other no matter our station in life, our color, world views, age, wealth or creed.
@@first9299 Maybe to you it's necessary, but to me that's the mentality that prevents anything from actually changing in the first place.
Thom explains it perfectly. Our country is in deep trouble and people better wake up.
He called it a young oligarchy, they(88 corps) have been cooperating together and breaking into political offices to learn dirt on politicians that wouldn’t accept their bribes since 1971, why does thom think pelosi will fix this with legislation lol we need to all organize our communities into worker cooperatives like mondragon but once that becomes popular they will probably just mobilize an ethnic cleansing like they did in Yugoslavia after the ussr fell
They never have, and they never will
Wow! A Smedley Butler reference! I wasn’t expecting Thom Hartman to say that.
@Volf Khat 1:23
Watch Sagaar's face when Thom Hartman says his name at the beginning LOL
Yeah LMAO I like Tom Hartmann, he’s a cool progressive old man but he doesn’t know how to pronounce brown names 😂
Does this guy think only republicans are oligarchs?? How does he think this???
NO,ALL OF THEM..ARE.
@@dragonfly1929 i agree but u couldn't tell from listening to this guy
@@carst007 Do you honestly believe he's that stupid. No, he's shilling.
@@lemurianchick agree. Totally shilling
Republicans are the ones who gutted all the labor laws for the benefit of oligarchs.
Oligarchs came back in after we went off the gold standard. Central banks took over.
I agree that large banks and other large donors have large influence, however the gold standard doesn't allow for effective market adjustments during recessions. Hopefully we can find a way to get money out of politics while having a stable economy. Have a good day :)
@Shinshocks thanks for the history lesson
Haven't even watched this yet, but seeing as how it's Thom Hartmann, I'm betting that a large part of his plan is: "Continue electing Democrats until the heat death of the universe."
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LOL, right you are.
🤣🤣🤣 Tom is a devout old school dem! That type of dem has turned into the Vichy DNC with the coronation of and installation of Vegetable Joe into the head of a decaying empire!
No worries the American Taliban will capture power in 2022 sparking the 2nd US civil war ! If there is still an intact nation in 2024 then they will also capture the White House too!
Why ?
The Vichy DNC has done absolutely nothing to aid a desperate populace during a pandemic and a depression! NO M4A NO MONTHLY UBI NO STUDENT DEBT JUBILEE NO FEDERAL JOBS GUARANTEE!
Way passed time to put on a Yellow Vest and grind the process of governance and the economy to halt! Politics is a game of fear ! We the people are many the Uber rich are few !
Well, yeah?
I'm pretty sure Thom identifies as a radical centrist, and considering his world travels and experiences I would guess he's going off of a worldwide perspective. Overton window and all that. He only comes across as left because the US is too far right.
@@violent_bebop9687 creep was Nixon. Thanks a lot Republicans
This guy wasted no time showing his political bias.
Yeah, it’s nice to see honesty from someone at least.
It’s crazy that people automatically assume political bias when someone is advocating for current legislative / election improvements
Sorry republicans are so bad that you think that.
These guys wear their Leftist delusions like a badge of honor, which makes sense since they have no actual honor....
@@needparalegal Concepts like freedom, liberty, democracy, and justice are not delusions. The fact that you think so is why America is a failed state.
@@Supernautiloid LOL, the Delusion is that you think you stand for any of those things. We are the ones who stand for liberty and freedom.
I used to listen to Thom Hartmann's radio show every day. I never missed the "Brunch with Bernie" segment every Friday at noon. I was absolutely amazed and appalled in 2016 when Thom refused to go all in for Bernie in his presidential campaign. Instead he proceeded to sound like a paid operative for Hillary Clinton. This shilling for Hillary was hypocrisy to me at the highest level. I haven't listened since. (I actually had to mute this interview while writing this...sorry Krystal and Saagar.) He used to have sound clips from FDR on his show, but when he had a chance to support an FDR-like candidate, he chose to sit on his microphone. I believe voices like his, along with Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Bill Maher and others, could have made a difference in that campaign, and helped to encourage the Democratic party to nominate the person who would have beaten a vapid, reality show host. These people, who I thought to be true progressives, turned out to be establishment Democrats after all. Shame on me for being so duped; shame on them for the hypocrisy.
Jesus christ what 100% pure radio hosts do like?
Right on, Thom turned his back in Sanders in 16.
Same experience here. I listened to his radio show constantly back in the 2014-2016 times, and he is absolutely a smart guy, but he unfortunately fell into the same trap of RussiaGating and becoming just another democratic party tool that ruined other progressive shows like Democracy Now. A real shame, but in the long run these realignments are very revealing and useful I think.
I don"t blame you, the establishment media is at fault for a lot of this.
You guys are out of touch with reality. Everything he said is true.
Republican s has always been for the rich corporate American. From late 1890s to 1929,causing the depression. Collapse.,democratic administration s has always handled economics an civil society better in this country.
So, Ronald Regan is definitely the cause of alot of this coming back like he said.
Also, remember Republican s never wanted Medicare., social security, department of education, department of house for low income, the poor. You no the safety net as we called it
The all Voted against IT. An tried to over turn it again but, failed.
Why do you think all of Republican congress wants to get rid of SSI. MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY. WELFARE.
Thom Hartmann is smart but he needs to read Thomas Frank Listen Liberal.
@UA-camwill Deletemyaccount it is the exact same accusations they made against both George W. Bush and Donald Trump with literally no proof at all. Except where Joe Biden is concerned, there is decades of proof not only of that but of his war crimes both foreign and domestic. The man is a psychopath. He’s everything the left accused Trump of being and worse.
I will not acknowledge any United States president other than Donald Trump. I will not acknowledge the authority of any white man other than Donald Trump.
What specifically do you think Thom needs to learn from Thomas? And if you don't think he's read Listen, Liberal, I think you're probably wrong.
@Establishment Shill-Troll lol, you're a Cathedral worshipper.
@Establishment Shill-Troll thank you, much appreciated good sir.
Is this guy implying that Dems aren't oligarchs too? That's a complete joke.
Pretty much.
This was a segment the American people needed
Thank God (I mean that literally) for people like Thom Hartmann who can explain what’s going on in our government AND how we can fix it. Unless we understand the movements that transform our government we can’t see what’s happening. Even better is to be able to see things in a historical context.
Oh Yes, Pelosi will help restore democracy. Thanks for the mid morning laugh
Thom the tool
Hmm, I guess you slept right through the Trump disaster of a presidency.
@@jimmyr9468 Trump being bad doesn't make Nancy good. The problem with people like Nancy is the media and people like you run interference for them. If all politicians were covered like Trump that would probly help.
She is the oligarch of oligarchs. I’m almost tempted to say that the only reason she is in politics is because they don’t let women in the mafia.
@@jimmyr9468 what Trump disaster? Gas was cheap, jobs were plentiful, but the oligarchs couldn’t have that so they collaborated with the Chinese communist party to create a pandemic just to hurt as many people as they could as long as Trump was one of them. They are literally willing to let poor people die in the streets as long as they can use the law to bully Donald Trump and his supporters.
It’s late stage capitalism ~ per Chris Hedges
No it’s early communism after subverting America
He had me until he said "Republican Oligarchs" too. No Thom it's all the Oligarchs, Republican AND Democratic. Shame Thom, you would still carry democratic water buckets when you could tell the truth
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I would say that 100% of republicans are sold out and 80% of democrats are so I throw in with the 20%
Great clip. Followed up by a Chevron advertisement brought to us by UA-cam.
The problem with Thom Hartmann is he's such a democrat complaining that the oligarchs took over when he supported Hillary Clinton
He had Sanders on his show for a while and has ppl like Ro Khanna on in the present. I mean, the way to create pressure is to put pressure in the primaries rather than wait for the general.
@@NotShowingOff I started following Bernie because of his "Brunch with Bernie" segments, of course, as soon as Bernie started running against Hillary, he was unceremoniously dumped from the show, and now he's stanning for Warren.
You know, the snake? Yeah, he lost all credibility in 2015 and has done nothing to regain it since
Bluebelle51 he does have Richard Wolff on the show. And Democracy at Work is an excellent channel. I wouldn’t blame someone for supporting Warren over Sanders. The truth is you need hundreds more of either.
@@NotShowingOff He supported Hillary over Bernie
nuff said
@@NotShowingOff Anyone who supports Warren, NOW, is no longer credible
He lists countries who are turning into a police state, but fails to mention America.
He called America an 'early stage oligarchy' and said 'oligarchy ends in a facist police state or it collapses back into democracy', so yeah, he at least said that America is on its way to being a police state.
Because he is cia left gater.
This guy wrote a COMPLETE BULLSHIT COVER BOOK about the Kennedy assassination and DID NOT EVEN KNOW Kennedy started the US gov printing money; took it away from the "Fed".
(That was NOT the only reason Kennedy was put on the hit list btw)
@@stutzbearcat5624 Not sure what you mean about Kennedy starting the government printing money--but if he did, he sure wasn't the first: Lincoln financed the Civil War with greenbacks, which weren't backed by anything but the full faith and credit of the government. There's nothing wrong with the government printing money: the Constitution gives that power to Congress.
@@lawsonj39
No you have no idea what I mean.
Paper money is printed thru the Federal Reserve Bank.
They took it over sometime around 1913-1914 - it is basically how they can control the economy.
Kennedy realized it gave the "banking cartel" to much power and took it back. This of course they were less than pleased by.
I have read close to 100 books on the Kennedy assassination - many 2-3-4 times. The best book on it ive encountered is James Douglass 'JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE'.
The history of US oligarchy sounded valid, but then Hartmann said Nancy Pelosi was going to help save us from oligarchy with HR1. Pelosi IS oligarchy (based on her wealth) and she defends oligarchy (based on her actions), so that argument seems ridiculous at best. Didn’t Hartmann support oligarchy (Clinton) in 2016? I think he lost credibility on this issue for that reason alone.
I'm thankful to Thom for the part he played in moving me to the left back during the Bush administration, especially with the Brunch with Bernie segments he had on his show every Friday.
Having said that, he just helped elect Biden, the definition of an oligarch.
Thank you for having Thom on. It was great to see the three of you interact, because I watch both shows.
Saagar, I could tell you did not like/agree with all of Thom's ideas & recommendations. Thank you for being a good sport about it. It made for a better interview , than if it had turned contentious.
Greed wins.
Odds favor vice.
Unless we get money out of politics.
what's your plan for that?
@@luddity whats yours?
ban lobbying?
@@FazeParticles gay
@@ModalSoul i agree.
we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy… i feel like no one in the political classes knows that
Words don't hold to specific meanings in this country because duplicity is everything.
People don't care about direct honest communication, they avoid it like the plague, part of this is accomplished in the blurry vocabulary and allowing inappropriate vernacular uses to become the new traditionally understood meaning well retaining the original specific definitions only for scientific, academic and, legal documents..... The powers don't want the populace to think of this as a republic because a republic is the idea of the rule of law universally applied and the powers prefer to live comfortably above the law, this is ever been a trait of the aristocrats and, you can tell they're on their way back when you look at all the self-proclaimed
Gentry villages/neighborhoods that exist across the United States. If one thinks about the origins of the phrase a sense of entitlement it should become clear the last thing the world needs is more aristocrats
Sounds good, too bad he seems to be a simp for democrats that are just as much part of the problem
You are the one that's a simp ....He gets it on levels you dont quite get yet...his alliance with dems is purely to avoid the fascist direction of the right which plays directly into the habds of the oligarchs....as youve clearly seen...the only way to get anywhere is to change the vehicle of the dems and use it to open up other areas.....the alternative is a devolution into a police state.....Myanmar latest example among the ones he mentioned
@@snoopy_peanuts_77 No, Thom Hartmann has been an over the top Russiagater for the last four years and a complete bootlicker for the DNC. I watched him for over 10 years, but once Hillary's emails came out along with John Podesta's and the DNC's showing how they had rigged the 2016 Primary, he went whole hog with the whole Hillary was cheated by the Russkies nonsense. He really became unlistenable to unless you believe the easily disprovable DNC propaganda.
@@dragonbutt1218 you can disagree with Thom without shyting on him...and oligarchy knows no borders and if you think the ex kgb oil oligarch Putin does not want us destabilized the way we destabilize southern countries you've been drinking the Jimmy Dore too hard...you're gonna need to walk and chew gum to navigate this mess and knee-jerk reactions like that is what lead to people trying to ally with snakes like tucker carlson
@Establishment Shill-Troll sigh...do you man..whatever u say...I'm done trying to reason with dude Bros..it's useless
@@snoopy_peanuts_77 oh please. No-one is saying Putin is a good guy. But literally everything that bad happens isn't Russia. Why don't they ever mention China? Where was that spy from that was having relationships with Democrat politicians again?
Democrats are not anti-police state. Look at the new domestic terrorism bill. I know many probly don't mind because they think it's guna get the "Fascists" but please don't kid yourself, it will be abused and used against all Americans including your lefty friends.
Please keep pushing this topic! So much could be solved if we can get corporate money out of politics, all civilian donations to elected officials made public, tougher laws around corruption, and we can figure solid policy (min wage, taxes, education, healthcare, etc) to fix the wealth gap problem in this country. Russia is the perfect example of what can happen if we keep going down this road.
So how is the US NOT a police state? Not being obtuse, genuinely want to know.
You are correct, to a large degree, a police state has developed. This has driven calls to defund the police state, but because of the way many engage in politics as though it were a competition between sports teams, the fan(atic)s pay little or no attention to the problems the oligarchs implement behind their favorite team and just focus on hating the other team and support the developing police state.
Great report Saagar and Krystal . Keep up the great work . Peace and good health to you … Miles from Canada .
I appreciate Thom’s comments and insight, but I think some crucial history is missing here. The reason we had a more equitable society with high tax rates for the rich and robust social programs for a time was not just because FDR was a good guy or something. It’s because there was a huge worker movement in the US at that time and a historic amount of socialist and communist membership at the time. FDR knew that if he didn’t appease them it would be bad for him politically because those groups were very influential and UNIFIED around worker rights and ending the wealth gap. We know Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want money out of politics! She just got caught in that Tesla stock mess. Y’all reported on that. Thom made it sound as though this is more of a republican thing and I don’t understand why. Pelosi isn’t not going to put that bill on the floor unless she knows it won’t go anywhere. Neither would McConnel
If you want these policies to be legislated, outside pressure is mandatory not optional. We can’t keep electing people on good faith and moral fortitude. We have to build outside pressure through worker solidarity so we can have a say in things. The electoral system is too corrupted for us to take it on good faith that eventually someone who cares about us will do the right thing and reject every incentive along the way to do the opposite.
This.
Right now I’m just trying to support strike funds and pipeline resistance legal defense funds.
No change will come until folks like Hartman realize both sides are propping up the oligarchs. I think it's pretty naive for him to think the democrats are going to be the ones to save us, especially when Wall St overwhelmingly supported D candidates over R ones in the recent election cycle. He should settle in for a nice, warm cup of disappointment...
It never ends. You can't stop human greed.
The best you can do is rip their heart out(literally) and start again.
This is an EXCELLENT SUMMARY, Thank you Thom Hartmann!
He's absolutely right. But seems to think corporate democrats will change it - the only time they truly fought was when the populace wanted Bernie - who is the only one who would have tried to change it!
I Love Bernie ! We Need Billions and Billions , Trillions of Bernies Supporters around the World. He Seems to Be Quite the Unicorn , I better See him in Heaven on Earth next dimension.
*Thank you!* Between this and that Ted Talk on Tweedism, perhaps I can steer my family away from partisan insanity. As for the oligarchs * *pulls down ski mask* * ... sorry it's cold here in Minnesota and I'm outside playing with the puppy while typing this, what were we talking about?
Nice use of English (no sarcasm )
Saagar's facial reaction to Thom Hartmann mispronouncing his name in the beginning is pure comedy
It's not just American oligarchy but global oligarchy that is entrenching itself regardless of they dysfunction it produces. Hartman's analysis is superficial at best.
This ^
I wish I could like a comment more than once.
Kudos for featuring Thom Hartmann. He has a great gift for perceiving and explaining U.S. history in the most intelligible way.
What people need to realize is that the problem isn't that some people have too much capital, it's that some people have too little.
Media helps the oligarchy
"Elizabeth Warren has a lot of good steps for that."
Literally read this as he said it
I consider myself apolitical but this show leans more populous Left than Right with its guests. Can we get more right leaning guests such as Glen Loury and Kmele Foster and some center-left guests such as John McWhorter who is coming out with a book soon? This show could use more balance.
I’m a huge fan of all those folks and I’d love to see them here, as I do anywhere, but public intellectuals aren’t generally in Rising’s wheelhouse. Most of the guests/panelists are journalists or political strategists. Although...they’ve had Bret Weinstein and Eric Weinstein on (both discussed the political divide), so maybe they’ll start casting a wider net and discuss more social issues. It would be great for the show and its viewers. Fingers crossed.
@@ATMyles Yes. Fingers crossed. They often have Zaid on to discuss social issues and they have authors on quite often. John McWhorter is coming out with a book and Glen Loury and Kmele can discuss social issues when they arise again (and they will arise again).
He loves the Democrats and gives them a pass. Don't fool yourself. There's only one party...the corporate party.
One big problem: The more diversity of culture and moral narratives in the country, the more dysfunctional democracy becomes. Just as oligarchy collapses into totalitarianism, democracy collapses into the tyranny of the majority, or mob rule. For either of these political systems to remain functional, we must embrace reasoned and dispassionate debate as our ONLY acceptable form of political communication.
Competency and moral strength are the two major failings in our political discourse right now. I am so glad The Hill embodies both of these virtues.
Early stage oligarchy, after 40 years with total oligarchy?
Great show!
Unspoken, but vital, is that voting for republicans and/or democrats MUST END. We *desperately* need more competition in our political sphere and we're not going to get it unless we stop voting for the two political parties that are the instruments of the ruling elites.
Not so sure you're right. We already have a variety of parties, and the New Deal essentially left the party duopoly in place but distributed power a lot more widely--though not widely enough, as it turns out.
@@lawsonj39 Does anyone *seriously* believe either major political party is going to reform itself? Americans are polled near to death. Our elected representatives know where we stand. Has it been reflected in their behavior? Absolutely not. My point is to start voting third-party for two reasons. It's a more effective protest vote than holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils. And, it may help to dispel the "wasted vote" mindset and wind up actually getting some third-party candidates elected to office.
The way he was holding back the laugh when she said Reddit uprising 🤣🤣🤣
Regan invited the oligarchs in, but Carter is the one who set the stage for him to do it
Can't take anyone who agrees with Elizabeth "the snake" Warren seriously.
So now she is lying about her species just like she lied about her race?
Great comments!
Legislation can go a long way.. We're doomed
Was with ths guy until the end when he said the person to fix Wall Street is Elizabeth Warren. Just because we want to get rid of Big Brother Wall Street doesn't mean we want Big Mommy Government to take it's place.
@Yo Momma Found the Warren shill, right on time.
Strange when Wall Street basically changed all the rules & Regulations via big Mommy Government to suit their OWN best interests, so they had their own power control on the levers. Via Wall Street to Government positions with usually these rather funny Jewish names. Most of them ending in useless for the masses.
Saagar l;ooks like he's staring into my soul at 2:47
Lmao
Options on Robinhood do have fees. Just buying and selling dont.
Don't they make most their $$ selling user information anyway? That's what I heard but I don't really know anything.
That will never end.
Thom is really good. He gets into a lot of fringe topics that help get a deeper understanding of why things are the way they are in Washington
People get sick of being worked to death to get nowhere. Housing gets out of reach, putting them back into serfdom, and each day is a challenge just to py bills and eat. They have no time or energy to do anything else,
I use to like thom until he went complete TDS
Where in this conversation did he have TDS?
@@thejquinn where in my sentence did i refer to this conversation? I am talking about as a whole. Thom used to be bearable until about 2017. His views changed and he started becoming rachel maddow. I swear i was watching msnbc
@@joshuamccall8043 So you just going looking for Thom Hartman videos on YT just to bash him for a guy already out of the WH?
@@thejquinn i didnt bash him i stated something factual. Also i watch rising and he happened to be a guest on their show so i made a comment about my opinion and how i believe he went down hill and became more of a conspiracy wielding rachel maddow instead of a progressive fighter like he use to be.
@@thejquinn i actually sad about it. Because i use to really like the guy
Thom has a lot of great information BUT he's become a big defender of the DNC and dem party as a whole. I was shocked how he defended biden and harris in the primary (even though he said he was wanting bernie or warren) and now cuts people off of his show when they are bashing biden and the corporate dems.
I have a new video exposing him~
Really not a fan of the idea that things will just magically get better or worse someday in the mystical future when I'm probably 80 and still working because I can't afford to retire. That's what they want. They want us to just hope someday maybe things will be better....just get back to work at your minimum wage job and stay too tired and stressed and depressed to rise up.
Government is the answer? All governments now throughout history demonstrate one predominant goal, which is to establish and sustain power for the people who have it. We need a healthy decentralization, not more complex "regulations" (i.e. gatekeeper laws) that inevitably are filtered through wealthy desires.
YES!!! I don''t always agree with him, but this show needs more Thom Hartmann.
No thanks
Funny how Saagar didn't have much to say about this topic.
I mean if he's right/leans right there isn't much he can really say on it. Republican politicians and donors want the oligarchy protected for sure and only speak to the middle class to get red state middle and poors to vote for them. Republican elites pledge allegiance to the budget
@@DevilJin01 he could point out that Biden raised 3 times the dark money as Trump
Thomm Hartman is one of those guys with so much life experience that you wish would at least run for Congress.
Get a direct democracy ilke Switzerland with strict transparency laws.
Wow thx
An oligarch is a single individual that controls an entire sector of the economy. John D. Rockefeller was very close to being an oligarch by controlling 90% of the oil; 100% is an oligarch. In Russia during the time of the Soviet Union and presently there are oligarchs that control entire sectors of the economy.
In the US we have an oligopoly (monopoly of the few) with several corporations controlling entire sectors of the economy. Corporatism started in the 1990s with the government allowing corporations to acquisition (buy) entire sectors of the economy. The government controls the regulations that allow it and disallows competition against it, and the oligops pay the government back by basically paying for everything.
Reverse the economic policies of the 1990s and reverse the economic situation we're in. And then the new headache will be the number of choices we have in both higher paying jobs and consumer goods.
More Thom, please
I'm still betting we have an economic collapse before we have any real legislation to fix it. Wall St was smart enough to tie the middle class to their casino scheme through pensions, no one wants to jeopardize their retirement. That's what keeps the establishment large and in charge!!
I fear we would need such an extreme collapse it shuts down the government and the FED. We have had collapses and they did everything they could to save wall street.
@@dennismitchell5276 Agreed, with every crisis they bail out the rich. I just think greed has its own demise built in, you can only over leverage and inflate something for so long until it blows. Only a matter of time.
Hartmann's book & viewpoint would have been edgy 20 years ago. Today, it's like he's selling a flip-phone.
Neoliberalism was never edgy. It was always a compromise of a compromise.
Thom Hartmann, the guy who backed $hillary Clinton and called Jill Stein voters "idiots" after the DNC effed over Bernie. Pass...
I want this book bad.
"Russia Russia Russia" - Thom Hartmann
True true true
He is Awful
This is the most misleading title I’ve seen to date.
1971- Nixon handed the keys to the money printer to the elites when we left the gold backing. And that was the beginning of end.
"American Exceptionalism" if there ever was. And bring on oligarchy. Meanwhile the American people are hoodwinked into believing what America is not.
Huh? What are you babbling about?
So he wants blue oligarchs instead of red ones and we should pretend that’s democracy.
One obvious sign of oligarchy,
the highest court has ruled that corporations are people too.
Think twice before insulting them, or the people owning them!
Shop at a farmer's market, butcher, and baker. STOP supporting massive corporations that use tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes. Stop taking cruises, flights, and hotel stays in companies that base themselves in other countries. Many companies fraudulently pose as American but a based in places like the Barbados to avoid paying taxes. STOP purchasing goods that are supported and made with prison labor.
It's your duty as and American to research where you spend your hard earned dollars. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET.
Saagar had nothing to say or counter. He only said "that's interesting". 😆
Imagine listening to someone . . . shocking I know.
@@Logomachus imagine listening to a news talk show that highlights both perspectives with only one side communicating. Mind blown, I know.
@@katra777 God forbid he maybe choose to let someone talk. Not to mention the guy couldn't even pronounce his name properly. Also, there are plenty of interviews on Rising where Saagar takes the lead and Krystal is mostly quiet by comparison. You Saagar hate-watchers are just sad.
Oligarchy is a worldwide issue.
we've always been an oligarchy.
Our founders wanted an oligarchy.
We don't have a democracy. if only up to a quarter of the population chooses the winner of our elections, that's not a democracy.
Our constitutional republic is an oligarchy.
Thom Hartman's books are good and what he says is good but he loses me on Blue no matter who I believe he leans towards the establishment because of advertisers on XM Radio
Krystal is sharp as
Great feeder questions
Believing that politicians will save the people is as stupid as believing the oligarchs will, only the people, united, organized and informed can end the nightmare and make the dreams of every human heart into reality.
@breakingpoints
Have Tom on again please
Excellent analysis, thank you for informing me.
It’s government industrial complex...the answer is supporting small business and not allowing government bail out large corporations. But that’s what the government has been doing with the public’s tax dollars.
0:20 Saagars face there 😂 he's so annoyed Hartman can't pronounce his name correctly.
It's courtesy 101 for a guest, isn't it?
Indian people have faced that in this country for a very long time. He's probably used to it
@Establishment Shill-Troll well if Hartman knew what a follow up question was he could have said "did I pronounce that right?" but he's not used to that kind of thing
they say that the rich should pay their fair share of tax and yet the same people who are making these statements are also part of the rich?=so nothing happens to the rich....
Can you guys cover the military coup in Myanmar and the overthrow of democracy?
must not be narrative compliant
@@bropitt I don’t see how covering that would disrupt their narrative