What a beautiful ride. I Only use PAS 3 on windy days and up hill. I find PAS 2 totally adequate most of time, and I ride in the Arizona desert, on very rough dirt roads. To my dismay, though, I noticed that your" bars" last much much longer then mine. I wonder why. My first bar drops fairly quickly, and then it takes a while before the next one drops. I therefore pay more attention to the voltage, and not so much to the bars...
Interesting! What is your P5 setting set to? If you have the 2023 model (LG Cells) it should be at 16. If you have the 2024 model (Samsung Cells) it should be set to 6.
@@leetjohnson Lee, you're a genius sir. I owe you a beer. I've had this bike since February and put over 1300 miles on it not realizing that my settings were wrong. Went on a long ride this morning and not only my bars didn't drop at all, my voltage seems to drop much slower, which means that my display has been lying to me all along.. This is a game changer for me, and I thank you for that. I just wonder why it came like that from the factory, since I didn't change the P5 setting at all...
I just ordered a Wired Freedom. Wired is claiming the 2024 Freedoms will be equipped with 2 batteries, this may affect results of this test. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your channel, I enjoy your vids 👍
@DASO_MILITIA 2,200$ and change with a 50$ off affiliate link. If you are using the Shop payment installment plan you will be charged interest and pay more in the end. Maybe that’s why you see a different price? 🤷♂️
wired just updated their bike. they are adding a rear battery, added thermal gel to their controller (copying e-cells) and other improvements. the 2024 model is now the previous model. e-cells already had a rear battery option but i see now they are configuring their deal and says their form will update on monday. a comparison video of both versions should also include pedal strikes since i heard this might happen more often with the wired version but not clear on the e-cells triple crown version.
@@jamesreardon4898 Not free. Extra $500. BUT it will also include upgraded dual crown forks and four-piston Tektro brakes. The extra battery + the dual crown forks would usually be an extra $1200, but now they're going to do it for an extra $500. This will make it ~$100-200 more than the Wired Freedom (since E-Cells doesn't charge shipping or tax) but with much better suspension and headlight. However, the Freedom will still have the higher watt output with the new 45 amp controller.
Is that motor even rated at 45 amps?? There's a reason the original controllers are 40 amps. I'm pretty sure it's pushing it and will probably burn up something eventually. That's what happens when you throw out untested designs quickly to compete.
*So with the pedal assist 5 were you pedaling at all? Because I want to see the range, same general terrain and weather yet without any pedaling (not even ghost pedaling unless maybe in an area where you need to, like a light turning red or by the fuzz or you know. I have pedaled some 67,000 miles in my life (or it equivalent on ATB's or like an actual 10,500 miles on a 3 speed Columbia Sports 3 and such) and while the bike is ok I'm 49, and I'm a cyclocross/road tourer, I would like a pedal motorcycle (like a class 5 but legally class 2 lol) especially for hauling groceries and stuff and I like you am 6'4" and weight 229 but figure on having a trailer at total 300 lbs or upto 250lbs on a special rack I will build because I might be one of those people you pass by, on the side of the road, you being in Cali and living in my van, I dont want to always have to break up camp maybe lose my spot, to get some food, pallets or dumpster crap. But really because I want know what he Wired can do and can't. and Not that I should.*
I was pedaling a little bit to help. Check out my video "Worst Case Scenario" where I was mostly throttling and a little bit of ghost pedaling to active the motor. That one will give you the absolute minimum range, minus your trailer weight. I would say absolute worst case with no pedaling, probably 25 miles. The new one has dual batteries now for the same price, shipping starts next month!
@@leetjohnson *I watched most of that video yet you were peddling, so it be a good test to see with none when you get the chance (for us heavy spare tire, plunk your ass types;)*
Good video! Glad to see this range test done. Really does give a good idea of range. I really think the only thing wired freedom needs to try to do is get a little bigger battery on their bikes. Other wise their bikes are pretty damn near perfect for all riding styles and locations and still have a good enough look to run under the radar opposed to a moped style look.
So... the war is on between Wired and E-Cells. After wired came up with their new (redesigned) model, E-cells came with a new model that is almost identical (but with better components and choices IMO) called the "Dual Star"... My money is on it, since E-Cells has been making dual battery bikes for a long time and have a lot of experience with them. It's just funny to see them go head to head like that. Good for us I guess.
The e cells bike is much less powerful and several mph slower than the new Wired bikes. Wired now has a much safer fork with a thru axle so I’m not sure what component is better on the e cells.
Lolol, sorry, I noticed that in editing, but had to mention it so that someone didn't get confused with what my display showed, and I wanted it to be in there at all points in case someone skipped around in the video. I do apologize for repeating myself!!
hey thanks for the range test it is good to know the headlight still shines even after the motor cuts out. :) [Ive been wondering about the lights] my thought has been to get an rechargeable AUX light just because.
What's up my guy! Finally found your channel! I met you a couple months back out at folsom Lake with my dual motor fat tire. I got in the 8000w rear and have to get it ride ready, will hit you up for meet up!
So really #5 is 28, #3 is 38, and #1 is 68. I think you would not go wrong with that in mind…..until you have more total miles on the battery. You could do these videos again after you have 500 miles on it. I’m at 225 miles now, after 7 weeks.
I wish I would have bought this bike. I didn’t see it because it wasn’t well advertised at the time. I bought an Aventon Aventure 2 and burned the hub motor up on my third bike ride climbing up a steep mountain on a paved road. I only had 67 miles on it. The Aventon Aventure 2 is definitely not made for climbing mountains for extended periods.
Another fun video. I do have to question your estimated range. When you hit 2 bars, 50%, you were at 18 miles. We all know the first half of a battery last longer than the second half. I said I hope you are in pulling into your driveway at 36 miles but you estimated you would go 45-50 miles at that point. You were fortunate to get 37 miles. No big deal, I hope you were close to home but please keep in mind for future long rides that the second half of a battery charge depletes faster than the first half, most of the time.
Yeah, I was using throttle a lot towards the beginning half of the video for hills and to pass people. I did less of that at the end. Also, don't forget the additional 2 miles I did before I reset the odometer. I actually was at 21 miles when i turned around and got a total of 39 miles when I got home. If I was coasting more on the downhill sections and didn't use throttle at all (set to full power, so it used 2,000 watts when I twisted it) I could have easily gone 40+ miles. Thanks for watching!!
At 9:02 min in vid, this is approximately the local where the eagle nest is each year. So glad the Boulder finally got removed and that section opened back up. I li,e the 10 mile loop around Lake Natoma.
At 12:43 mark, you went up the steep way to Hazel bridge. Most people don't realize just how steep it is. Def see alot 9f folks get stuck and walk that section. lol
Have you had trouble with it shutting off after driving for about 1.5 hours, then after stopping for a few seconds, it comes on again for a min or so then it repeats again and again. Is the motor overheating? Thanks
I haven't had that issue exce0t when I run my battery all the way down when doing a range test. I found that the solid was to just remove the battery and put it back on, that turns the system off.
I’m 6’5” 228 and I can go so far in assist 1 and 2 that my butt wears out before the battery. I have not done a full range test because of that. Assist 3 seems to be the noisiest so I USUALLY use 1 and 2. They are realistically fast enough.
Can you elaborate on the noise you're getting on PAS level 3? I'm getting a slight "rubbing" noise on PAS 2 and 4 but 3 in pretty bad and I'd hate to think it would be considered normal. The factory won't even comment about it before I get a video to them, which won't be exactly easy to do. I have seen one or two other people complain of this same issue. How would you describe it on your end? Wondering if Lee has experienced this as well?
59v with full bars is absurd.....they should allow a setting in the parameters to adjust the voltage readout like other bikes..58.8v losing first bar is nuts 58% capacity
Another awesome video. Thank you. Do you think you’ll be getting one of the new Freedoms or Cruisers? I have one of the new Freedoms coming by the end of the month. Can’t wait!
@@leetjohnson that would be a helpful comparison, Im thinking of gettin a step thru as I kinda like the step thru [girls bike] as Im not as young as I once was & after an hour I did notice getting on & off my step over wasnt as easy. :o
flat rate shipping $250 to VA. Insurance is an extra $75, for a grand total of $2,325 plus my state tax. Every video omits the dollar amount. You can also do local pickup in Chi town (Chicago)
@@leetjohnson you'd be CRAZY to not get the insurance. If it includes a base, it's only about $50. Having said that, everyone needs to know that you the buyer will not file a claim....it must be the shipper. For ANYthing you purchase, anywhere, especially for this dollar amount, RECORD the unboxing process. Then record an inspection of all the parts. You might not even notice something when you are recording, so you have it to go back to. Take your time. This tip will help you tremendously if you have damage.
I'm from New Jersey and ride in an urban environment, went I start my ride the battery is fully charged, but I find that I will loose a bar after a 5 or 10 minutes ride. I'm not sure why this is. I'm crushed to know that the new Wired Freedom now offers dual batteries at the same priced that I'd paid 7 month's ago😢.
Check your P5 setting....when you turn the bike on, press the up and down button simultaneously to enter the programming mode. It might be set to 16, but if it's the 2024 model (Samsung Battery Cells), it should be set to 6. Let me know if this helps! You should be able to go at least 15 miles at Pedal Assist 3 before you lose a battery bar....and at least 8 miles on pas 5 before it drops a bar.
@@leetjohnson I saw that as a new option. might be nice to have. my thought is to just carry another battery on the rear rack to swap out as Id kinda like to occasional go on a 60 some mile ride.
I have the Chao Yang tires. I wasn't able to find any information about speed rating online, other than for motorcycle tires that Kenda makes. They must not have speed ratings for the bike tires...or if they do, they don't publish that information.
Correct. When fully charged it is at 67 volts. Fully dead battery is around 50v, depending on how much power you are using before it dies (pas 1, pas3, pas 5).
No one is explaining how the second battery on some motor e-bike works, including the owners of Wired Bikes. I would like for him to come out and clearly explain how that second battery works. I don’t think he has enough knowledge to explain. The Fly wants to know!!!
@@SarahJane-y1p what do you mean? The second battery is connected in parallel to the main battery, with a battery balancer to keep the voltage matched.
@user-ht3hm9ng8s I have another ebike and it has dual batteries as well. You can run it with 1 or 2 batteries....the voltage /power/speed is the same, the only difference is extended capacity/range. If the batteries were connected in series, their amperage would be added together, but the capacity would remain the same. If you look up how battery solar systems work, you'll find this same information (series vs parallel). Hope this helps!
My 2024 Freedom was ordered in APR & was due to ship at end May, then postponed for the bonuses till end June. When it showed up the UPS man asked me to help get off truck its so heavy. The top of the box was ripped off from middle to 1 end with many holes along sides. It looked like a bear attacked it. When I opened it up I immediately saw many scratches in paint. I was bout to put together when I noticed no tool for handlebars or manual to put this together. So I went on their chat help & in the end it came missing manuals, tool,2nd battery charger, touch up paint, headlight, & PEDALS... so they send me the accessory box which took 4 days (mind you I took my vaca from work for the day of the delivery) & its missing the touch up paint. From this point on the Wired customer service chat was unhelpful & rude. I asked them how the batteries work is it frame batt till drained then rear kicks in? & they said it was a 'blendid' function that draws off both... So I told them that i purposely drained my batt to 60% on display & when went to charge both only the rear was at 60% while frame batt was 100%, so its not blending.... I like to pedal so I turn the motor options off (set to 0) & quickly found out that gears 1-6 make the chain skip on every rotation... They told me to take it to a bike shop for a derailer adjustment or watch a youtube vid on how do it myself...2400.00+shipping & this is the product I got & customer service to go with it FUCK WIRED
I would think C5 is the closest to a "delay" setting. I know that 10 let's all the power out at once, and 1,2, and 3 slowly ramp up the power. Factory setting for this is at 4.
Nice ride; beautiful area. I ride up in Washington State, Port Angeles area. I had guessed 50 miles at least, but I forgot you had a cadence sensor instead of a torque sensor. With a torque sensor you can get better milage I think. Thanks for posting.
Wired’s bikes now peak at 3200 watts, 1000 watts more than e cells bike. I have tried the new prototype and it is much more powerful than the previous version. The new Wired bikes will easily outperform the e cell clone in acceleration, hill climbing, and top speed. E cells is not collecting sales tax either because they have had only minuscule total sales or they are crooks who don’t pay tax. Either is bad.
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What a beautiful ride. I Only use PAS 3 on windy days and up hill. I find PAS 2 totally adequate most of time, and I ride in the Arizona desert, on very rough dirt roads. To my dismay, though, I noticed that your" bars" last much much longer then mine. I wonder why. My first bar drops fairly quickly, and then it takes a while before the next one drops. I therefore pay more attention to the voltage, and not so much to the bars...
Interesting! What is your P5 setting set to? If you have the 2023 model (LG Cells) it should be at 16. If you have the 2024 model (Samsung Cells) it should be set to 6.
@@leetjohnson Mine is a 2024. Didn't even think about that! I'll check. Thanks!
@@leetjohnson You were right It was on 16! I just changed it. We'll see what happens!
@@ishgumi44 awesome!!! Let me know how it goes!!
@@leetjohnson Lee, you're a genius sir. I owe you a beer. I've had this bike since February and put over 1300 miles on it not realizing that my settings were wrong. Went on a long ride this morning and not only my bars didn't drop at all, my voltage seems to drop much slower, which means that my display has been lying to me all along.. This is a game changer for me, and I thank you for that. I just wonder why it came like that from the factory, since I didn't change the P5 setting at all...
It’ll go about 80 miles in mostly pedal assist 1 and 2 with occasional 3 on a few hills here and there. 175lb rider.
Nice! I was able to get about 72 miles on PAS 1 at 225lbs.
I just ordered a Wired Freedom. Wired is claiming the 2024 Freedoms will be equipped with 2 batteries, this may affect results of this test. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your channel, I enjoy your vids 👍
I need to get the new version and put it to the test!
@DASO_MILITIA no it isn't. It is still $1,999 plus tax and shipping for the new dual battery. Approximately $2,400 out the door.
@DASO_MILITIA 2,200$ and change with a 50$ off affiliate link. If you are using the Shop payment installment plan you will be charged interest and pay more in the end. Maybe that’s why you see a different price? 🤷♂️
wired just updated their bike. they are adding a rear battery, added thermal gel to their controller (copying e-cells) and other improvements. the 2024 model is now the previous model.
e-cells already had a rear battery option but i see now they are configuring their deal and says their form will update on monday.
a comparison video of both versions should also include pedal strikes since i heard this might happen more often with the wired version but not clear on the e-cells triple crown version.
Thanks for the update! I definitely get pedal strikes on my 2024 Wired Freedom.
did you say e cells is adding an extra battery for free now to compete with wired?
@@jamesreardon4898 Not free. Extra $500. BUT it will also include upgraded dual crown forks and four-piston Tektro brakes. The extra battery + the dual crown forks would usually be an extra $1200, but now they're going to do it for an extra $500. This will make it ~$100-200 more than the Wired Freedom (since E-Cells doesn't charge shipping or tax) but with much better suspension and headlight. However, the Freedom will still have the higher watt output with the new 45 amp controller.
Is that motor even rated at 45 amps?? There's a reason the original controllers are 40 amps. I'm pretty sure it's pushing it and will probably burn up something eventually. That's what happens when you throw out untested designs quickly to compete.
Heck ya I have my 2025 wire on order!
You used the throttle! You killed the whole experiment..... just sayin'! :)
Ooooops!!
Great video! Can I ask how tall you are . That Wired Freedom seems like a winner.
@@threeonamatchventura it's a great ebike! I'm 6'3" and about 240lbs.
*So with the pedal assist 5 were you pedaling at all? Because I want to see the range, same general terrain and weather yet without any pedaling (not even ghost pedaling unless maybe in an area where you need to, like a light turning red or by the fuzz or you know. I have pedaled some 67,000 miles in my life (or it equivalent on ATB's or like an actual 10,500 miles on a 3 speed Columbia Sports 3 and such) and while the bike is ok I'm 49, and I'm a cyclocross/road tourer, I would like a pedal motorcycle (like a class 5 but legally class 2 lol) especially for hauling groceries and stuff and I like you am 6'4" and weight 229 but figure on having a trailer at total 300 lbs or upto 250lbs on a special rack I will build because I might be one of those people you pass by, on the side of the road, you being in Cali and living in my van, I dont want to always have to break up camp maybe lose my spot, to get some food, pallets or dumpster crap. But really because I want know what he Wired can do and can't. and Not that I should.*
I was pedaling a little bit to help. Check out my video "Worst Case Scenario" where I was mostly throttling and a little bit of ghost pedaling to active the motor. That one will give you the absolute minimum range, minus your trailer weight. I would say absolute worst case with no pedaling, probably 25 miles. The new one has dual batteries now for the same price, shipping starts next month!
@@leetjohnson *I watched most of that video yet you were peddling, so it be a good test to see with none when you get the chance (for us heavy spare tire, plunk your ass types;)*
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Now let’s do one where you go with the dual batteries. If I buy the bike, it will have the dual batteries as my last bike did.
@@TrumpIsTheMan I'm working on it!
Hi I'm getting me a qlife racer ebike I weight 194 pounds also I love beautiful motor sound on your ebike sounds relaxing.❤
Awesome, thanks for watching!!
Just did 22 miles on trails like that in Oregon but we have homeless tents for mile markers
@@SL33P-WALK3R lol!
Great job on giving the true milage on the different pas modes . That's pretty much the milage I get out of mine
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear the results are similar.
Good video! Glad to see this range test done. Really does give a good idea of range. I really think the only thing wired freedom needs to try to do is get a little bigger battery on their bikes. Other wise their bikes are pretty damn near perfect for all riding styles and locations and still have a good enough look to run under the radar opposed to a moped style look.
Check out my newest video.. they now ship with 2 batteries at the same price still!!!!
So... the war is on between Wired and E-Cells. After wired came up with their new (redesigned) model, E-cells came with a new model that is almost identical (but with better components and choices IMO) called the "Dual Star"... My money is on it, since E-Cells has been making dual battery bikes for a long time and have a lot of experience with them. It's just funny to see them go head to head like that. Good for us I guess.
Absolutely!! Only the best will survive, lol. Glad to see the competition for the consumer.
I'm going to get the ecells and put a wired logo on it.
@@warlockboyburns 😆
@@warlockboyburns And vice versa.. I actually like the Wired logo much better!
The e cells bike is much less powerful and several mph slower than the new Wired bikes. Wired now has a much safer fork with a thru axle so I’m not sure what component is better on the e cells.
Did you by any chance do a 2-mile warm-up around your neighbourhood? I think you mentioned it once or twice. 😂
Lolol, sorry, I noticed that in editing, but had to mention it so that someone didn't get confused with what my display showed, and I wanted it to be in there at all points in case someone skipped around in the video. I do apologize for repeating myself!!
hey thanks for the range test
it is good to know the headlight still shines even after the motor cuts out. :)
[Ive been wondering about the lights] my thought has been to get an rechargeable AUX light just because.
That's a great point! Probably only needs about 12v to power the light.
What's up my guy! Finally found your channel! I met you a couple months back out at folsom Lake with my dual motor fat tire. I got in the 8000w rear and have to get it ride ready, will hit you up for meet up!
What up!!!! Definitely hit me up for a ride!!
So really #5 is 28, #3 is 38, and #1 is 68. I think you would not go wrong with that in mind…..until you have more total miles on the battery. You could do these videos again after you have 500 miles on it. I’m at 225 miles now, after 7 weeks.
Correct!
I wish I would have bought this bike. I didn’t see it because it wasn’t well advertised at the time. I bought an Aventon Aventure 2 and burned the hub motor up on my third bike ride climbing up a steep mountain on a paved road. I only had 67 miles on it. The Aventon Aventure 2 is definitely not made for climbing mountains for extended periods.
That's a bummer. This bike is a ton of fun and I have almost 500 miles on it with no issues.
Another fun video. I do have to question your estimated range. When you hit 2 bars, 50%, you were at 18 miles. We all know the first half of a battery last longer than the second half. I said I hope you are in pulling into your driveway at 36 miles but you estimated you would go 45-50 miles at that point. You were fortunate to get 37 miles. No big deal, I hope you were close to home but please keep in mind for future long rides that the second half of a battery charge depletes faster than the first half, most of the time.
Yeah, I was using throttle a lot towards the beginning half of the video for hills and to pass people. I did less of that at the end. Also, don't forget the additional 2 miles I did before I reset the odometer. I actually was at 21 miles when i turned around and got a total of 39 miles when I got home. If I was coasting more on the downhill sections and didn't use throttle at all (set to full power, so it used 2,000 watts when I twisted it) I could have easily gone 40+ miles. Thanks for watching!!
So, in pas 2, probably 45 to 50 miles in "real world" use. That pretty solid actually.
Correct! Yeah, not too bad!
At 9:02 min in vid, this is approximately the local where the eagle nest is each year. So glad the Boulder finally got removed and that section opened back up. I li,e the 10 mile loop around Lake Natoma.
Good eye!!
At 12:43 mark, you went up the steep way to Hazel bridge. Most people don't realize just how steep it is. Def see alot 9f folks get stuck and walk that section. lol
100% correct!!
Have you had trouble with it shutting off after driving for about 1.5 hours, then after stopping for a few seconds, it comes on again for a min or so then it repeats again and again. Is the motor overheating? Thanks
I haven't had that issue exce0t when I run my battery all the way down when doing a range test. I found that the solid was to just remove the battery and put it back on, that turns the system off.
Yes I'm Sold I am going to buy a Wired Freedom E Bike I like all the reviews thanks!!!
Right on! If you wouldn't mind using the link in the description box for this video, I'd really appreciate it as it helps out this channel a lot!
I’m 6’5” 228 and I can go so far in assist 1 and 2 that my butt wears out before the battery. I have not done a full range test because of that. Assist 3 seems to be the noisiest so I USUALLY use 1 and 2. They are realistically fast enough.
I agree about pedal assist 1! I did 72 miles and it was such a long ride and my butt was definitely done!!
Can you elaborate on the noise you're getting on PAS level 3? I'm getting a slight "rubbing" noise on PAS 2 and 4 but 3 in pretty bad and I'd hate to think it would be considered normal. The factory won't even comment about it before I get a video to them, which won't be exactly easy to do. I have seen one or two other people complain of this same issue. How would you describe it on your end? Wondering if Lee has experienced this as well?
59v with full bars is absurd.....they should allow a setting in the parameters to adjust the voltage readout like other bikes..58.8v losing first bar is nuts 58% capacity
@@snakeone007 I agree!!
I predict 36 miles.
I was close, did anyone guess the exact number?
Great guess! I think the closest prediction was within 1.5 miles....(they guessed 38).
I'm a Ecells guy but i still like your video's. You do a good at your productions and i know your an honest non bias guy👍
@@LarrysViews Thank you, that means a lot to me!
Another awesome video. Thank you. Do you think you’ll be getting one of the new Freedoms or Cruisers? I have one of the new Freedoms coming by the end of the month. Can’t wait!
You're welcome! I'm not sure...everyone wants to see a comparison between the Wired Freedom and the ECells 5 star ebike...
@@leetjohnson that would be a helpful comparison, Im thinking of gettin a step thru as I kinda like the step thru [girls bike] as Im not as young as I once was & after an hour I did notice getting on & off my step over wasnt as easy. :o
@@leetjohnsonjust today E-Cells announced the Five-star dual, also 2 batteries
@@mikebordeaux8218 I just saw that!! So cool!
@@bellyacres7846 I got the step through, I really like it. My friend has the freedom and I can hardly get on the damn thing.
Did you turn right on Barton before heading back down Douglas?
You know how hot it gets here, have you did any heat stress tests last summer?
I sure did turn on Barton! I got the bike at the end of summer last year, so this year will be the first real heat stress test.
flat rate shipping $250 to VA. Insurance is an extra $75, for a grand total of $2,325 plus my state tax. Every video omits the dollar amount. You can also do local pickup in Chi town (Chicago)
Correct! It used to be $200.
@@leetjohnson you'd be CRAZY to not get the insurance. If it includes a base, it's only about $50. Having said that, everyone needs to know that you the buyer will not file a claim....it must be the shipper. For ANYthing you purchase, anywhere, especially for this dollar amount, RECORD the unboxing process. Then record an inspection of all the parts. You might not even notice something when you are recording, so you have it to go back to. Take your time. This tip will help you tremendously if you have damage.
its a good bike.. i keep it on PAS 5 all the time.. and use only throttle .. and i have hills. i get about 25 miles
Right on!!
The battery and the voltage does not matter on the screen you have to check your 4 green bars on your battery I have a 2024 model
If your p5 setting is set to 6, it is fairly accurate. Voltage is much more precise than the 4 bars.
I did 76 miles with 50% still left on battery....the catch is....i rode at PAS 0 for 30 miles lol
Awesome!!!
30 miles downhill? lol
really gotta put those spider washers in the headlight to keep it stable
100%
I'm from New Jersey and ride in an urban environment, went I start my ride the battery is fully charged, but I find that I will loose a bar after a 5 or 10 minutes ride. I'm not sure why this is. I'm crushed to know that the new Wired Freedom now offers dual batteries at the same priced that I'd paid 7 month's ago😢.
Check your P5 setting....when you turn the bike on, press the up and down button simultaneously to enter the programming mode. It might be set to 16, but if it's the 2024 model (Samsung Battery Cells), it should be set to 6. Let me know if this helps! You should be able to go at least 15 miles at Pedal Assist 3 before you lose a battery bar....and at least 8 miles on pas 5 before it drops a bar.
Also, the voltage is more accurate than the battery bars, but check/try the P5 setting at 6 and let me know if that helps!!
Surron God, you're the man. I took your advice and drop the P5 from 16 to 10. Dude I get so much more range. Thanks a million
@jamesramsey7767 that's awesome!!! If you set it to 6 you should get even more accurate range/readings, if you have the Samsung battery cells.
New Freedom and Cruiser adds an additional factory 15AH battery (dual batteries)
So epic! I just might have to get one!!
@@leetjohnson I saw that as a new option. might be nice to have.
my thought is to just carry another battery on the rear rack to swap out as Id kinda like to occasional go on a 60 some mile ride.
@@bellyacres7846 for sure!
What is the speed rating of those Kenda tires? Can you find out?
Good question, let me see if I can find out.
I have the Chao Yang tires. I wasn't able to find any information about speed rating online, other than for motorcycle tires that Kenda makes. They must not have speed ratings for the bike tires...or if they do, they don't publish that information.
My guess 42 miles
Excellent guess!!
hope you have mirrors on your hat
Unfortunately no mirrors.
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My guess 38 miles
Excellent guess!!
its 60v
Correct. When fully charged it is at 67 volts. Fully dead battery is around 50v, depending on how much power you are using before it dies (pas 1, pas3, pas 5).
So with the new one with dual battery you should easily get 50+ miles on pedal assist 3. I'm sold.
Yep!!!
No one is explaining how the second battery on some motor e-bike works, including the owners of Wired Bikes. I would like for him to come out and clearly explain how that second battery works. I don’t think he has enough knowledge to explain.
The Fly wants to know!!!
@@SarahJane-y1p what do you mean? The second battery is connected in parallel to the main battery, with a battery balancer to keep the voltage matched.
@user-ht3hm9ng8s I have another ebike and it has dual batteries as well. You can run it with 1 or 2 batteries....the voltage /power/speed is the same, the only difference is extended capacity/range. If the batteries were connected in series, their amperage would be added together, but the capacity would remain the same. If you look up how battery solar systems work, you'll find this same information (series vs parallel). Hope this helps!
@@SarahJane-y1p You could easily google it.
My 2024 Freedom was ordered in APR & was due to ship at end May, then postponed for the bonuses till end June. When it showed up the UPS man asked me to help get off truck its so heavy. The top of the box was ripped off from middle to 1 end with many holes along sides. It looked like a bear attacked it. When I opened it up I immediately saw many scratches in paint. I was bout to put together when I noticed no tool for handlebars or manual to put this together. So I went on their chat help & in the end it came missing manuals, tool,2nd battery charger, touch up paint, headlight, & PEDALS... so they send me the accessory box which took 4 days (mind you I took my vaca from work for the day of the delivery) & its missing the touch up paint. From this point on the Wired customer service chat was unhelpful & rude. I asked them how the batteries work is it frame batt till drained then rear kicks in? & they said it was a 'blendid' function that draws off both... So I told them that i purposely drained my batt to 60% on display & when went to charge both only the rear was at 60% while frame batt was 100%, so its not blending.... I like to pedal so I turn the motor options off (set to 0) & quickly found out that gears 1-6 make the chain skip on every rotation... They told me to take it to a bike shop for a derailer adjustment or watch a youtube vid on how do it myself...2400.00+shipping & this is the product I got & customer service to go with it FUCK WIRED
Thank you for sharing your experience, I appreciate it.
Also, does anyone know which setting removes the throttle delay?
I would think C5 is the closest to a "delay" setting. I know that 10 let's all the power out at once, and 1,2, and 3 slowly ramp up the power. Factory setting for this is at 4.
remove the delay, use more battery. Delay is your battery's friend, but not the oncoming cars'....lol
Nice ride; beautiful area. I ride up in Washington State, Port Angeles area. I had guessed 50 miles at least, but I forgot you had a cadence sensor instead of a torque sensor. With a torque sensor you can get better milage I think. Thanks for posting.
I think you are right, torque sensor would help. I also throttled here and there, so probably could have gone a few more miles if I didn't do that.
Wired’s bikes now peak at 3200 watts, 1000 watts more than e cells bike. I have tried the new prototype and it is much more powerful than the previous version. The new Wired bikes will easily outperform the e cell clone in acceleration, hill climbing, and top speed. E cells is not collecting sales tax either because they have had only minuscule total sales or they are crooks who don’t pay tax. Either is bad.
I want the new one!!