This year it will be 85 years ago that Germany elected the Nazis to power, or will it? Well... as most events in history it isn't quite that simple. There is no majority for anything in Germany at this point. You see, in 1932 Germany is still a diverse, democratic state. But it's been under attack for many years now by populist, partisan interests tearing it apart into fractious, sometimes destructive opposite forces. In essence, they can be grouped into three camps: 1. the mainstream centrist parties on the left and right that want a parliamentary, socially tolerant democracy. 2. the far left that wants to overthrow the parliamentary democracy and start a revolution to create an authoritarian, socially ultra-liberal, rule by the working class 3. the far right that wants to overthrow the parliamentary democracy to create a totalitarian, socially reactionary, rule by a strong man. Now, that is the left to right landscape and as you shall see that is also how the election results play out in alliances. So try your best to get rid of your prejudices and preconceived notions - because for many of you things are not the way that you have been told. And if for no other reason than saving us the trouble of having to police these comments too much - please, please try to remember our rules. They are not there to quash freedom of speech - they are there so that we can keep the comment sections turned on. When we don't police them it never takes long for videos like this to descend into a hatefest full of death threats and calls for mass murder. You might think that's cool, but we don't and we know that most of the world doesn't so respect that - for the sake of democracy if nothing else. *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban.
@Salmon If you actually read or listened to the reviews not bought and paid for by Disney you'd know that identity politics in Star Wars is all feminism since they're stuck working in a setting without convenient allegories for real races. If you want to know why the Star Wars sequels are a toxic feminist power fantasy use the search box. It's practically all any Star Wars fans talked about for about a year. If you don't care to educate yourself please refrain from calling people fascists because they hold opinions about things you don't want to understand.
Jesus christ this is Indy at his very very best. I was on the edge of my seat at the very end even though you know how it turns out. Thanks for the fantastic content gents!
Man I am sad that these videos do not get the attention they deserve ! But it's great that you guys are still keeping it up. History is my favorite subject especially WW2. Was really happy when I found out that you are still doing these videos! WW2 and this one especially. Wikipedia is boring but your videos aren't! THANK YOU!
Yep - even members of Communism - practice Capitalism. Even Communist China has more cottage industries than does the United States (while China calls itself The People's "Republic" of China and they call themselves practicing the economics of Communism - but not really - they actually cherry-pick form a broad range of economic policies - some Communism, Nationalism, Socialism, and Capitalism - all mostly controlled by Oligarchs, just like in Russia, the United States, etc. we all seem to be under the thumb of Oligarchs these days - they pick what works for them and ignore what does not work). Capitalism (or as I call it, "Human Behavior") is a natural form of economics. Capitalism was not born from a manifesto nor any guideline or political uprising nor even from any school of economics. Rather Capitalism was born when Eve sold Adam on the idea of eating the wrong fruit from the wrong tree, and Capitalism and Lucifer have been going strong ever since. All economic system from time to time will fail - but Capitalism is the only one that is self-healing and Capitalism is what all failed policies turn to when they fail. Capitalism is by no means perfect, often full of corruption, and a tendency for wealth to gather in corners, thus currency available shifts too slow. There was an economic system used long ago in recorded history that did work really really well. It was not central to whatever economic bartering or currency exchange system that was used - at the time it was under a Monarchy - but still, this economic system worked so well - that apathy and corruption sort of melted down and watered down. This economic system would really work wonders if used with Capitalism. It was never given a name - so I will give it a name - I'll call it a Vested Economic System. IF interested in learning how a Vest Economic System would work - reply and I'll provide an outline. It really is not complicated either - it is a very simple system - and like I said - the one time in history it was tried - it worked well - it will work even better today. At the core of any economic system is (food - without food all else will fail) - then natural resources - then housing - etc. And right now the Trump bubble is wonderful - however, I warn everyone - the conditions are extremely dangerous when the Trump bubble does eventually burst. Unlike, the Reagan bubble when it burst - the population conditions are far different for Trump then they were for Reagan - this nation needs to adapt Vested Economic - if this Republic is to survive.
your mom...okay...Communists applied the "theory" however it suited them the most. Marxism doesn't apply to any century except the 19th when it was contrived. People haven't lived in communes (I'm not sure that they even did in the 19th century) except for the hippies. All Communiats wanted was the power the aristocrats had before they were removed from govt. Their entire scope was to gain as much moolah as they could stealing the country's resources (that's how former Communist bosses achieved the wealth the have). I hope I'm not boring you, but I lived in that system till I was 16.
@@marinazagrai1623 Everyone on this UA-cam comment section has made interesting comments. Unfortunately one cannot get a real fruitful discussion on UA-cam. This is a discussion to have with each other perso. Alas, so often it is like that on UA-cam. take care, all
@@marinazagrai1623 You have some very good points. I am an economist but I get tired of always talking about this in quick posts on UA-cam. One of my brothers is in telecommunications. He said the longer we spend time doing comments, the more popular a UA-cam video i perceived. So YouTub inc. racks up more money from advertisers. Makes sense. I tell myself to have a good day. And really try to make that happen. I tell myself this and I tell you that too.
This is a very detailed overview of the collapse of the Weimar Republic in it's final years. I honestly didn't know most of this because most of what I was taught simply blamed Article 48 of the Weimar constitution that gave emergency powers to the President.
Did you know Hitler's popularity dropped severely right after the outbreak of WW II judging by the fact much less newborn babies were named "Adolf" after 1939... Btw, I create similar content and am looking for feedback how to improve my on-camera presence. Indy has always been of great inspiration.
Yikes! Imagine being named after Satan on Earth. I hope those men and women changed their names when they learned the truth and the parents were punished.
"....a dragon that will CONSUME THEM ALL!!!" Really enjoying this dramatic, and slightly theatrical, delivery side of Indy. Good job, Keep Calm And Carry On.
I just finish watching all the videos so far from between two wars and I LOVE IT! this channel deserve a loot more subscribers, im glad that I found this channel. Keep up the good work you, you are doing incredible fine! Regards from Costa Rica
That is something my history teacher in Germany also made clear: The NSDAP wanted Democracy gone, the KPD wanted Democracy gone, the so-called conservatives wanted at least the monarchy back, but also democracy gone. If around 50-70% of your elected representatives don't want democracy, its a miracle it held for even a handful of years.
I am German. We focused an entire school years worth of history class on the process that took Germany from the November Revolution in 1918 to the Invasion of Poland in 1939. You don’t get the speed and impetus of this process in class. You do on this channel. Proud member of the Timeghost Army!
You read about things like this and realize just how amazing it is for certain constitutions to have endured as long as they have. It's quite difficult to form a functioning government.
In terms of constitutions it's important to have codified checks and balances to ensure that the parliamentary system works properly. If anything this was one of the lessons taught by the Weimar Republic and the Nazi rise to power.
Spartacus took it from this poem: THE RELATIVITY OF EVIL By Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī (born 1207 AD - died 1273 AD) There is no absolute evil in the world: evil is relative. Recognize this fact. In the realm of Time there is nothing that is not a foot to one and a fetter to another. To one a foot, to another a fetter; to one a poison, to another sweet and wholesome as sugar . Snake-venom is life to the snake, but death to man; the sea is a garden to sea-creatures, but to the creatures of earth a mortal wound. Zayd, though a single person, may be a devil to one and an angel to another: If you wish him to be kind to you, then look on him with a lover’s eye. Do not look on the Beautiful with your own eye: behold the Sought with the eye of the seeker . Nay, borrow sight from Him : look on His face with His eye. God hath said, “Who so belongs to Me, I belong to him; I am his eye, and his hand, and his heart. Everything loathly becomes lovely when it leads to your Beloved.
I could say so many things about this episode or make so many comments about this and that but at some point my mind got boggled by the sheer absurdly of it all and left me speechless. You just can't make this stuff up, can you? Bless their hearts. 🙄
DevilTrigger It seems I should have add a bit of detail I written it in a way where it was to be cynical. As I did know he looked calm if he was freaking out I would have put exclamation points at the end
Nikola Dimitriev yes, holy smokes! This is quality of both content and delivery that is unsurpassed in any media, and will stand for ages, I hope. *cranks up pledge a tier*
All this fosters great discussion. The information you present is simply fascinating. No other effort to my knowledge has covered these topics as well as you. Thanks so much for the insight and fair overview. Peace.
"Yeah, this video is going to be demonetized anyway, so just throw it there on the desk to my right." - my prediction of what was going through Indy's head while planning the set for this episode
In true Colombo style Indy should make a short video where he is about to leave the room and suddenly turn around and walk back because he forgot to say something.
I'm always impressed by the verbiage you folks script, but the metaphor at the end was quite wonderful and quite excellently delivered. You really outdo yourselves in your presentation!
Between the wars is much more interesting than what goes on after war is declared. Great series. Looks like the world is always between wars and having wars all the time. Peace is time to reload.
Imagine seeing your country, your home, disintegrating into violence and chaos, and knowing you're too old and tired to prevent it from happening, but still fighting with every fiber of your soul and body to hold it all together.
What impresses me is Indy and his burden of knowing so much of war and He is still humble and sane. War at least makes me greatful I was never in it but it's horrors are beyond reason and mercy.
Wish i could participate/help more in those series... So hard to be a hobby historian from Hungary :( Great episode as usual, always nice to listen Indy :)
Good point. Got hoodwinked by a 🐺 in puppet sheeps clothing called Hitler. I felt for Hindenberg being stuck in the Papen middle. But the German ppl were totally played by a loser. Calling for war against the USA..oops what drug was H high on??
@@KubusSc7 shows what you know about socialism. THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. though I'm sure you don't care. Calling themselves NATIONAL SOCIALIST doesn't make them SOCIALIST. It make them ethnic supramacists who want to sound kinda friendly to the average person.
But they didn't want that, nor did they do that... that's made up falsehoods by people who think that having the Nazis classified on the right makes the right look bad, or would like the left to look bad by housing the Nazis (both are frankly idiotic). Wait for our next video on Germany and you shall see... there was a faction that tended in that direction of economic policy. As of the party leadership summit in Bamberg in 1926 they were completely marginalized and had no influence.
KubusSc7 here the ACTUAL defintion of socialism: so·cial·ism /ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/ noun a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism. NOW BY THIS DEFINITION NAZIS WERE NOT SOCIALISTS BECAUSE THEY SURE AS HELL DIDN’T DISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH EQUALY! THE MURDERED TORTURED AND OTHER WISE STOLE HUGE AMOUNTS OF WEALTH AND TOOK WHAT THEY WANTED.
Another great episode. You guys rock! I hope you have plans to go into some detail about Kurt von Schleicher when the time comes. I remember from Shirer's work that he acted as a sort of kingmaker (chancellor maker) during this period which led to the demise of the Weimar Republic. I'm reading a bit more about him. The article suggests that both he and the Defense Minister were alarmed at the election results of 1928 which favored the Social Democrats who opposed military spending (which kind of reminds me what The Chieftain said about development of military forces in France which ran afoul of the Socialists who feared military coup). The Social Democrats were probably spurred to this political victory by their release in December 1926 of documents which described the secret cooperative projects between the Reichswehr and the Soviets (an event described in a thesis on the Soviet-German Tank Academy at Kama by Ian Johnson). The article on von Schleicher suggests the results of the 1928 election convinced him to work towards Weimar governments that would exclude interference by the Social Democrats altogether via the use of articles 25, 48 and 53 of the Weimar constitution, thus allowing him and his pick of chancellors to abuse Hindenburg's constitutional powers as they did to marginalize the Reichstag. (As an aside, I'm curious if I'm looking at a typo or else have missed 1932 Part 1 of 4.)
I didn't know there was a homegrown movement to reinstate the monarchy. I knew Wilhelm II sought to regain his throne. ''And consume...them...ALL! If you'd like to know more...". 😂 Well played, old chap. Well played, indeed. 👏
This is a contentious issue that we chose to not get into detail on for that very reason. The procession proceeded under heavy police escort and was, of course, full of the SA. Communist activists did attack but were stopped on the side streets by the Police already before they reached the actual procession. Goebbels chose to inflate that attack, later even by faking newsreel footage of the attack reaching the funeral procession.
Stuff like this is way undertaught in civics. Here in Canada the basic idea is that you can draw a direct line from WW1 Versailles to WW2; this is a rather fatalistic way of viewing things that leaves serious historical figures like von Papen off the hook and make it more easy to say a line like "Sure he seems a little crazy, but being elected president will make him more moderate".
While it is now pitched as "extremists of the right" being used against "extremists of the left", at the time it seems the Nazis were seen by conservatives as perhaps over-enthusiastic defenders of the established order, whereas the KPD were seen as a threat to it. It would probably never have occurred to von Papen to try and use the KPD, but he did think in those terms vis-a-vis the NSDAP. German press baron Alfred Hugenberg was a leading conservative right politician, not a Nazi as such, but his press tended to give favourable coverage to the Nazis, and if a Nazi-KPD street clash took place the press tendency was to blame the KPD. The Nazis were not particularly concealing what they would be like in power. During the summer of 1932 there was particular violence in Silesia, partly because of the presence of ethnic Poles. A Polish KPD sympathiser named Pietrzuch was beaten to death by Nazis who showed up at his dwelling - the Nazis wore SA uniform. One of Pietrzuch's eyes was poked out with a billiard cue. The killers were arrested and sentenced to death for aggravated murder, but Hitler declared his total solidarity with them, and one of his deputies stated that the idea Germans could be sentenced to death for killing a Communist "and a Pole, at that" just showed how corrupt law was in the Weimar Republic. They were not executed and were in fact released after Hitler came to power the following year. The Third Reich would in time kill many Poles, and many Communists.
It should be noted that a large part in this was the fact that the liberal parties, instead of putting up a direct resistance to Von Papen’s takeover of Prussia, instead decided to sue the government. The German courts, mostly holdovers from the previous Reich, intentionally procrastinated on ruling against Von Papen, and their ruling, when it did come, was too weak to stop anything.
another error: when he became chancellor, Papen was outcast from the Zentrum party so he had no political party behined him aside from the DNVP headed by hugenberg
These episodes are getting quite spicy the closer we are coming to the WW2. I sometimes wonder if the Nazism could have been stopped in Germany through the politics alone, but seeing these events and outcomes makes me think that in the best case it could only be delayed, but hardily completely stopped.
@Fabian Kirchgessner I would even go further than that - had von Papen not been able to pour so much poison in Hindenburg's ear, the November election would have led to another free election in 1933 to resolve the hung parliament (instead of the sham elections that we will now witness next year). As you point out the economy was already recovering by then and things would have looked very, very different. However, arguably the die was already cast when Hindenburg allowed von Papen to make himself Dictator of Prussia - as we shall see that move is what enables Göring to take over that position and interestingly enough, Göring's position as Ministerpräsident and Reichsstatthalter of Prussia turns out to be much more instrumental in the power grab than Hitler's as Kanzler.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yes, but that is what I meant to say. The support for Hitler and his party rose again after the events with Bruenning and they continued so with each new election. What I mean to say is even if they somehow continued to stall the government and not elect Hitler as chancellor, it would just again delay the inevitable and even possibly make the Nazis stronger once they actually got to power. Also, it is in the end a bit difficult to say what could have happened in either case. For example, had the Nazis decided to continue consolidating their power and not invade Poland in 1939, but actually a few years later how it was originally planned, then maybe we could have even seen a much grimmer scenario.
@TimeGhost History You never explained why after coming back from the negotiation table were they mad at him they got the payments dismissed except for one last time, why were they so mad? Or were they going to be mad no matter what he came back with? 10:00 can you help me understand why they are so mad? Thanks.
I've been binge watching all of your series recently (not done yet!). I have a suggestion on a possible future series: the end of the Cold War. From the Soviet invasion of Afganistan in 1979 to Christmas day 1991. I lived through almost 7 years of that period. Would love to see a desk full of 1970's-1990's stuff and an outfit from that period!
I didn't know that Prussia was such a large part of Germany. I thought it included only the area later would be DDR, Silecia and eastern Prussia. Thus, Bavaria and Prussia amounted for the 90% of Germany.
@Fabian Kirchgessner i thought that the kingdoms, principalities and free cities that existed before 1870 had become states in the federation. But it seems that few of them had survived by 1870 as independent political entities.
@@georget8008 As pointed out, the Rhineland was a major addition, as well as was the former kingdom of Hanover, which was annexed during the Prussian-Austrian war (also called the German-German war) of 1866.
SPD and KPD could not meet and make a coalition government because of mutual hostility after the events of 1918, but also because of the Comintern's doctrine of "Social Fascism". This theory was dictated by USSR and was very popular in KPD in the 1930s, and claimed that because capitalism was on the brink of collapse, social democracy blocking the way of the workers to power with laws or calls for reformist approach, was a left "wing of fascism". SPD also hated KPD for trying to destabilize Weimar Republic , which was an offspring of the social democrat Ebert. After the fall of Weimar Republic and the extermination of the German Communists, the Soviets were shocked. They realised that the previous doctrine was not only obscure, but also allowed the fascists to more easily gain power, and finally eradicate communists. Thus, the Comintern proposed the new doctrine of the antifascist 'Popular Front"; wherever possible communists would form alliances with socialists or socialdemocrats to prevent the rise of fascism. This approach had mixed results; in France in 1935 communists and socialists had formed a left-wing government that prevented the descent of the country towards right-wing authoritarianism, but could not prevent Franco winning the civil war in Spain (although this is much more complicated). It remains a big "what if" , if the SPD and KPD could have formed a coalition in 1932, because the majority of the Germans before Hitler becoming chancellor were in fact left-wing , socialist leaning. PS. Also, in USA the communists after the events in Germany were supportive of Roosevelt and the New Deal.
Politics was always boring topic for me, but I was watching this episode like the most suspenseful thriller movie. Indy, you know how to captivate your audience... if only Germany had you at the time ;))
Ok for boring but vital and necessary. If you familiarize yourself with the major features of politics, events over time. Real ideology and not just the demands of the day. Then it will be exciting and real. That's what you've experienced with Indy
is it just me? or like has ANYONE else noticed the fact that THE ENTIRE TIME Indy's been sitting & talking, that right in front of him, there's been a friggin plain ol' MIRROR on his desk... WITH GIANT LINES OF COKE ON IT !?!? .... like seriously, AM I the *ONLY* ONE SEEIN THIS?!?
The artist is Tamara Łempicka. The left-hand painting is called 'Portrait of a Young Girl in a Green Dress' and the right-hand one is titled 'Portrait De Madame Boucard'.
woah it seems von papen did more damage than hitler and yet his role is always down played, i always thought it was hitler who got the emergency powers signed in to become the dictator of germany but here we find it was von papen, was this historians just trying to make hitler seems even eviler or?
Papen was certainly quite instrumental in *getting* Hitler into power, and bears a lot of responsibility for the end of the Weimar democracy. But he was nowhere near what Hitler did later. Papen's "dictatorship" was very much limited at the time - he was still massively dependent on Hindenburg's good will, and had next to no allies in German politics, at all. And even during his chancellorship, the remnants of the Weimar system were still in place - there were parties, and elections, and some form of separation of power. Hitler did away with all that, and transformed Germany into a dictatorship that was very different, and much more profound than Papen ever achieved, or even wanted. Papen was an authoritarian monarchist, not a totalitarian dictator.
Hey TimeGhostArmy i am portuguese and i feel that our rise to fascism with Salazar Regime was kinda important are we gonna get any metion in the future? Sorry for the bad English.
This year it will be 85 years ago that Germany elected the Nazis to power, or will it? Well... as most events in history it isn't quite that simple. There is no majority for anything in Germany at this point. You see, in 1932 Germany is still a diverse, democratic state. But it's been under attack for many years now by populist, partisan interests tearing it apart into fractious, sometimes destructive opposite forces. In essence, they can be grouped into three camps:
1. the mainstream centrist parties on the left and right that want a parliamentary, socially tolerant democracy.
2. the far left that wants to overthrow the parliamentary democracy and start a revolution to create an authoritarian, socially ultra-liberal, rule by the working class
3. the far right that wants to overthrow the parliamentary democracy to create a totalitarian, socially reactionary, rule by a strong man.
Now, that is the left to right landscape and as you shall see that is also how the election results play out in alliances. So try your best to get rid of your prejudices and preconceived notions - because for many of you things are not the way that you have been told. And if for no other reason than saving us the trouble of having to police these comments too much - please, please try to remember our rules. They are not there to quash freedom of speech - they are there so that we can keep the comment sections turned on. When we don't police them it never takes long for videos like this to descend into a hatefest full of death threats and calls for mass murder. You might think that's cool, but we don't and we know that most of the world doesn't so respect that - for the sake of democracy if nothing else.
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will there be an episode on Austria?
Where do you get these fantastic sets from?
Yes, we have an upcoming episode in 1934 about Austria and the Dollfuss-Schuschnigg dictatorship.
@@TimeGhost great
@@Sandwich13455 Astrid, our producer is also our designer - she started her career in film as a set designer...
So Von Papen was Jar Jar of this story, while thinking that he was Palpatine. Oh what irony.
KDP was Amidala with "motion of no confidence vote".
@Salmon He could be right, from certain point of view.
@Felipe Aubert i think you underestimate the prequel danbase and in that fan base there is even a subfanbase of the clone wars tv show.
We might want to tone it down a nit here - it's all fun and games until someone loses an eye... and so on.
@Salmon If you actually read or listened to the reviews not bought and paid for by Disney you'd know that identity politics in Star Wars is all feminism since they're stuck working in a setting without convenient allegories for real races. If you want to know why the Star Wars sequels are a toxic feminist power fantasy use the search box. It's practically all any Star Wars fans talked about for about a year. If you don't care to educate yourself please refrain from calling people fascists because they hold opinions about things you don't want to understand.
“They have chained to their chest a snake which will turn into a dragon and consume them all.” Wow.
*Jordan Peterson likes this comment*
Reminds me of the Snake story candidate Trump so relished telling. A master of projection even then.
Jesus christ this is Indy at his very very best. I was on the edge of my seat at the very end even though you know how it turns out. Thanks for the fantastic content gents!
Thank you!
Man I am sad that these videos do not get the attention they deserve ! But it's great that you guys are still keeping it up. History is my favorite subject especially WW2. Was really happy when I found out that you are still doing these videos! WW2 and this one especially. Wikipedia is boring but your videos aren't! THANK YOU!
Wessel's landlord was a Communist.... a communist landlord, got to love the irony there
go to love your moniker! Our species may be a failed experiment.
Yep - even members of Communism - practice Capitalism. Even Communist China has more cottage industries than does the United States (while China calls itself The People's "Republic" of China and they call themselves practicing the economics of Communism - but not really - they actually cherry-pick form a broad range of economic policies - some Communism, Nationalism, Socialism, and Capitalism - all mostly controlled by Oligarchs, just like in Russia, the United States, etc. we all seem to be under the thumb of Oligarchs these days - they pick what works for them and ignore what does not work). Capitalism (or as I call it, "Human Behavior") is a natural form of economics. Capitalism was not born from a manifesto nor any guideline or political uprising nor even from any school of economics. Rather Capitalism was born when Eve sold Adam on the idea of eating the wrong fruit from the wrong tree, and Capitalism and Lucifer have been going strong ever since. All economic system from time to time will fail - but Capitalism is the only one that is self-healing and Capitalism is what all failed policies turn to when they fail. Capitalism is by no means perfect, often full of corruption, and a tendency for wealth to gather in corners, thus currency available shifts too slow. There was an economic system used long ago in recorded history that did work really really well. It was not central to whatever economic bartering or currency exchange system that was used - at the time it was under a Monarchy - but still, this economic system worked so well - that apathy and corruption sort of melted down and watered down. This economic system would really work wonders if used with Capitalism. It was never given a name - so I will give it a name - I'll call it a Vested Economic System. IF interested in learning how a Vest Economic System would work - reply and I'll provide an outline. It really is not complicated either - it is a very simple system - and like I said - the one time in history it was tried - it worked well - it will work even better today. At the core of any economic system is (food - without food all else will fail) - then natural resources - then housing - etc. And right now the Trump bubble is wonderful - however, I warn everyone - the conditions are extremely dangerous when the Trump bubble does eventually burst. Unlike, the Reagan bubble when it burst - the population conditions are far different for Trump then they were for Reagan - this nation needs to adapt Vested Economic - if this Republic is to survive.
your mom...okay...Communists applied the "theory" however it suited them the most. Marxism doesn't apply to any century except the 19th when it was contrived. People haven't lived in communes (I'm not sure that they even did in the 19th century) except for the hippies. All Communiats wanted was the power the aristocrats had before they were removed from govt. Their entire scope was to gain as much moolah as they could stealing the country's resources (that's how former Communist bosses achieved the wealth the have). I hope I'm not boring you, but I lived in that system till I was 16.
@@marinazagrai1623 Everyone on this UA-cam comment section has made interesting comments. Unfortunately one cannot get a real fruitful discussion on UA-cam. This is a discussion to have with each other perso. Alas, so often it is like that on UA-cam. take care, all
@@marinazagrai1623 You have some very good points. I am an economist but I get tired of always talking about this in quick posts on UA-cam. One of my brothers is in telecommunications. He said the longer we spend time doing comments, the more popular a UA-cam video i perceived. So YouTub inc. racks up more money from advertisers. Makes sense. I tell myself to have a good day. And really try to make that happen. I tell myself this and I tell you that too.
I work for the post office and I listen to these while I walk my route. Thank you Indy for making my days so much more educational and interesting!
You're welcome! Thanks for delivering peoples mail!
@@TimeGhost thank you guys for making such awesome content! Prost!
This is a very detailed overview of the collapse of the Weimar Republic in it's final years. I honestly didn't know most of this because most of what I was taught simply blamed Article 48 of the Weimar constitution that gave emergency powers to the President.
John Chrysostom Rev 3:9 seems you‘re very Hitler-ready.
Another stellar video Indy and team. Well done and excellently explained as always.
Thank you!
History is always relevant because people do not change. Great work as always.
thx
"NO YOU KANT..
That's not true. Humans are always changing. Evolution m8
Did you know Hitler's popularity dropped severely right after the outbreak of WW II judging by the fact much less newborn babies were named "Adolf" after 1939... Btw, I create similar content and am looking for feedback how to improve my on-camera presence. Indy has always been of great inspiration.
That was because of Adolf daslers low quality popping track pants, which didn't take off until the mid nineties.
@Fabian Kirchgessner
Thank you FK very revealing.....What could have been.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Interesting to read Fabian!
Yikes! Imagine being named after Satan on Earth. I hope those men and women changed their names when they learned the truth and the parents were punished.
That is a huge claim and one small piece of evidence to support it.
Imagine being the Dictator of Germany only get played by aspiring dictator(s) because they used democracy
"....a dragon that will CONSUME THEM ALL!!!" Really enjoying this dramatic, and slightly theatrical, delivery side of Indy. Good job, Keep Calm And Carry On.
Thanks
I just finish watching all the videos so far from between two wars and I LOVE IT! this channel deserve a loot more subscribers, im glad that I found this channel. Keep up the good work you, you are doing incredible fine!
Regards from Costa Rica
Thank you!
Looking back at on the history of the Wemar republic, I find it surprising that it did not collapse sooner.
That is something my history teacher in Germany also made clear: The NSDAP wanted Democracy gone, the KPD wanted Democracy gone, the so-called conservatives wanted at least the monarchy back, but also democracy gone. If around 50-70% of your elected representatives don't want democracy, its a miracle it held for even a handful of years.
If Indy was my history teacher, I would have stayed in school forever!
You would also have tried to get detention all the time!
I learn more in one short video than I did in a whole college course. Great job Indy and crew!
Thanks!
But this short clip was no more than a few short chapters covered in Shirer’s classic ‘Rise & Fall of the 3rd Reich.’
Go learn some more.
Hot damn that was dramatic
Probably my favorite outro yet
Indy is such a great host !
I am German. We focused an entire school years worth of history class on the process that took Germany from the November Revolution in 1918 to the Invasion of Poland in 1939. You don’t get the speed and impetus of this process in class. You do on this channel. Proud member of the Timeghost Army!
Another great episode well done!
A fantastic, well-researched and engaging episode as always!
thx
Whew, that was quite dense with information.
Got on the edge of my seat, waiting eagerly for the '33 video.
Another great entry in the series. Who could thumb down this?
Good question! Perhaps bitter neonazi revisionists?
Von Papen and 20 Centrum party members.
Even a Marxist like me voted up, but then I've been a patreon from the very beginning.
You read about things like this and realize just how amazing it is for certain constitutions to have endured as long as they have. It's quite difficult to form a functioning government.
In terms of constitutions it's important to have codified checks and balances to ensure that the parliamentary system works properly. If anything this was one of the lessons taught by the Weimar Republic and the Nazi rise to power.
@@TheCimbrianBull And one that humanity has learned fuck-all from
That quote at the end about snake venom is interesting. Anyone know where it's from?
Spartacus took it from this poem:
THE RELATIVITY OF EVIL By Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rūmī (born 1207 AD - died 1273 AD)
There is no absolute evil in the world: evil is relative. Recognize this fact.
In the realm of Time there is nothing that is not a foot to one and a fetter to another.
To one a foot, to another a fetter; to one a poison, to another sweet and wholesome as sugar .
Snake-venom is life to the snake, but death to man; the sea is a garden to sea-creatures, but to the creatures of earth a mortal wound.
Zayd, though a single person, may be a devil to one and an angel to another:
If you wish him to be kind to you, then look on him with a lover’s eye.
Do not look on the Beautiful with your own eye: behold the Sought with the eye of the seeker .
Nay, borrow sight from Him : look on His face with His eye.
God hath said, “Who so belongs to Me, I belong to him; I am his eye, and his hand, and his heart.
Everything loathly becomes lovely when it leads to your Beloved.
@@TimeGhost
Wow, beautiful poetry. This ought to be added to the lore of "Angel and Snake". Indy needs to know this!
Setting up your desk in the corner of the room, what a beautiful bit of framing. Well done, well done.
Thank you!
I could say so many things about this episode or make so many comments about this and that but at some point my mind got boggled by the sheer absurdly of it all and left me speechless. You just can't make this stuff up, can you? Bless their hearts. 🙄
This is one of the best episodes yet.
Thank you
The war is creeping ever closer...
@Fabian Kirchgessner Oh sorry my mistake, it's the shell shock playing up again. The Great War ended back in 18' peace will prevail.
War? No, no, no: The League of Nations will prevent it! 😀
Wow. This episode was depressing.
It sure was buddy...it sure was .
* Friendly shoulder tap
3:17 I feel bad for this chauffeur, I mean look at him he is like; "Oh dear god get me out of this car right now."
I think you mean chauffeur. A shofar is a ram's horn used in some Jewish religious ceremonies.
Ah! didn't see that, autocorrect must have changed it.
That driver regrets becoming an Uber driver!
DevilTrigger
It seems I should have add a bit of detail
I written it in a way where it was to be cynical. As I did know he looked calm if he was freaking out I would have put exclamation points at the end
This was one of the best videos you guys ever did. The research, the script, and props to Indy, i could listen to him all day :D
Thank you!
Yes, thank you! I was quite excited about this script myself, and it turned out even better than I could have hoped for.
Nikola Dimitriev yes, holy smokes! This is quality of both content and delivery that is unsurpassed in any media, and will stand for ages, I hope.
*cranks up pledge a tier*
@@foowashere Thank you!
I am really really sorry to say this. But this is criminally underrated and needs more views.
It has always amazed, and confused, me at the speed with which this all occurred.
Just found this channel a week ago! This one has been the best so far with the “ In Between 2 Wars”. Looking forward to starting the WW2 series.
Welcome to the community Michael! Glad you have you with us.
"Communist Party leader aunt Stella"
according to the Subtitles
Soon or later will you talk about France political instability?
We will
TimeGhost History good luck lol
well that's the first explanation of the events that I have been able to follow clearly. thankyou :)
You're welcome! Thanks!
All this fosters great discussion. The information you present is simply fascinating. No other effort to my knowledge has covered these topics as well as you. Thanks so much for the insight and fair overview. Peace.
Thank you
"Yeah, this video is going to be demonetized anyway, so just throw it there on the desk to my right." - my prediction of what was going through Indy's head while planning the set for this episode
Although to be fair... it's our producer, Astrid that plans the set, but other than that you're not that far off....
Great quotation from Rumi,
and great episode as always. It's like watching Colombo. I know who killed, but it's entertaining to watch it all unravel
In true Colombo style Indy should make a short video where he is about to leave the room and suddenly turn around and walk back because he forgot to say something.
@@TheCimbrianBull Yes! With obligatory facepalm and "just one more thing"
@@maciek_k.cichon
ROFL! 🤣 😂 😅
These 'conclusions' at the end if each episode get better every time.
Greetings from Altona (now in Hamburg) - we havn't forgotten !
Good!
You might enjoy this then timeghost.tv/the-coverup-and-execution-of-four-men-that-enabled-the-nazi-power-grab-in-1933/
mhh, I doubt it. I doubt that a majority of people in Altona can name the year those brawls took place, or even the exact year Hitler came to power. 🤔
I liked to soon! That ending quote was amazing!
I'm always impressed by the verbiage you folks script, but the metaphor at the end was quite wonderful and quite excellently delivered. You really outdo yourselves in your presentation!
Between the wars is much more interesting than what goes on after war is declared. Great series. Looks like the world is always between wars and having wars all the time. Peace is time to reload.
Thanks for your channels and work! Can't get enough. Bravo!
Imagine seeing your country, your home, disintegrating into violence and chaos, and knowing you're too old and tired to prevent it from happening, but still fighting with every fiber of your soul and body to hold it all together.
What impresses me is Indy and his burden of knowing so much of war and He is still humble and sane. War at least makes me greatful I was never in it but it's horrors are beyond reason and mercy.
Thanks!
"...the message.....however vague and convoluted......"....Have you ever heard any politician speak otherwise?
THIS is the kind of independent content I just LOOOVE to find here on UA-cam. Wow, good stuff!
Thanks for the support.
Wish i could participate/help more in those series... So hard to be a hobby historian from Hungary :( Great episode as usual, always nice to listen Indy :)
Your compatriot, Dora Faust (an active member of TimeGhost Army), was able to do it. Give it a try! 😀
Talk about Hungarian Communist Past Americans love it
This history makes the stuff you read about today look sane.
Funny thing Franz von Papen was the only Chancellor who didn't make a speach in Reichstag!
Good point. Got hoodwinked by a 🐺 in puppet sheeps clothing called Hitler. I felt for Hindenberg being stuck in the Papen middle. But the German ppl were totally played by a loser. Calling for war against the USA..oops what drug was H high on??
this is how democracy dies, one person at a time.
@@KubusSc7 shows what you know about socialism. THERE'S A HUGE DIFFERENCE. though I'm sure you don't care. Calling themselves NATIONAL SOCIALIST doesn't make them SOCIALIST. It make them ethnic supramacists who want to sound kinda friendly to the average person.
But they didn't want that, nor did they do that... that's made up falsehoods by people who think that having the Nazis classified on the right makes the right look bad, or would like the left to look bad by housing the Nazis (both are frankly idiotic). Wait for our next video on Germany and you shall see... there was a faction that tended in that direction of economic policy. As of the party leadership summit in Bamberg in 1926 they were completely marginalized and had no influence.
This is too confusing for us to reply to in any reasonable way - please just watch our videos.
KubusSc7 here the ACTUAL defintion of socialism: so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More
policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism.
synonyms: leftism, Fabianism, syndicalism, consumer socialism, utopian socialism, welfarism; More
(in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism.
NOW BY THIS DEFINITION NAZIS WERE NOT SOCIALISTS BECAUSE THEY SURE AS HELL DIDN’T DISTRIBUTE THE WEALTH EQUALY! THE MURDERED TORTURED AND OTHER WISE STOLE HUGE AMOUNTS OF WEALTH AND TOOK WHAT THEY WANTED.
TimeGhost History yes clearly this person has not watched the video.
Another great episode. You guys rock! I hope you have plans to go into some detail about Kurt von Schleicher when the time comes. I remember from Shirer's work that he acted as a sort of kingmaker (chancellor maker) during this period which led to the demise of the Weimar Republic. I'm reading a bit more about him. The article suggests that both he and the Defense Minister were alarmed at the election results of 1928 which favored the Social Democrats who opposed military spending (which kind of reminds me what The Chieftain said about development of military forces in France which ran afoul of the Socialists who feared military coup). The Social Democrats were probably spurred to this political victory by their release in December 1926 of documents which described the secret cooperative projects between the Reichswehr and the Soviets (an event described in a thesis on the Soviet-German Tank Academy at Kama by Ian Johnson). The article on von Schleicher suggests the results of the 1928 election convinced him to work towards Weimar governments that would exclude interference by the Social Democrats altogether via the use of articles 25, 48 and 53 of the Weimar constitution, thus allowing him and his pick of chancellors to abuse Hindenburg's constitutional powers as they did to marginalize the Reichstag. (As an aside, I'm curious if I'm looking at a typo or else have missed 1932 Part 1 of 4.)
Great work! A very informative video, thrilling until the very end.
Thank you
I love your videos!!
Thank you
Excellent resume; detailed and clear to understand.
You even can learn as a German from this videos. Well done! Its important to know how history has developed to avoid repeat.
Thank you!
I didn't know there was a homegrown movement to reinstate the monarchy. I knew Wilhelm II sought to regain his throne.
''And consume...them...ALL! If you'd like to know more...". 😂 Well played, old chap. Well played, indeed. 👏
Wikipedia said the funeral wasn’t attacked I don’t know who to believe
This is a contentious issue that we chose to not get into detail on for that very reason. The procession proceeded under heavy police escort and was, of course, full of the SA. Communist activists did attack but were stopped on the side streets by the Police already before they reached the actual procession. Goebbels chose to inflate that attack, later even by faking newsreel footage of the attack reaching the funeral procession.
TimeGhost History hmm ok thank you
I will assume that at 2:19 the woman is just sleeping. Gee.
Stuff like this is way undertaught in civics. Here in Canada the basic idea is that you can draw a direct line from WW1 Versailles to WW2; this is a rather fatalistic way of viewing things that leaves serious historical figures like von Papen off the hook and make it more easy to say a line like "Sure he seems a little crazy, but being elected president will make him more moderate".
While it is now pitched as "extremists of the right" being used against "extremists of the left", at the time it seems the Nazis were seen by conservatives as perhaps over-enthusiastic defenders of the established order, whereas the KPD were seen as a threat to it. It would probably never have occurred to von Papen to try and use the KPD, but he did think in those terms vis-a-vis the NSDAP.
German press baron Alfred Hugenberg was a leading conservative right politician, not a Nazi as such, but his press tended to give favourable coverage to the Nazis, and if a Nazi-KPD street clash took place the press tendency was to blame the KPD.
The Nazis were not particularly concealing what they would be like in power. During the summer of 1932 there was particular violence in Silesia, partly because of the presence of ethnic Poles. A Polish KPD sympathiser named Pietrzuch was beaten to death by Nazis who showed up at his dwelling - the Nazis wore SA uniform. One of Pietrzuch's eyes was poked out with a billiard cue. The killers were arrested and sentenced to death for aggravated murder, but Hitler declared his total solidarity with them, and one of his deputies stated that the idea Germans could be sentenced to death for killing a Communist "and a Pole, at that" just showed how corrupt law was in the Weimar Republic. They were not executed and were in fact released after Hitler came to power the following year. The Third Reich would in time kill many Poles, and many Communists.
nazis, being progressive, hated conservatives.
@@purity_control I don't think the Nazi's could ever be called "Progressive"... unless it was progressive tyrannical genocidal zealots.
Rendell001 the Nazis were of course progressives
@@purity_control Is this the bizzare myth where you claim progressives are Nazis?
...Because insisting something is doesn't make it so.
I love this show so much.
The enemy of your enemy is still your enemy
There's a lesson from history. You don't need majority support to seize power, just a sizable base of support and a cadre of ruthless operatives.
It should be noted that a large part in this was the fact that the liberal parties, instead of putting up a direct resistance to Von Papen’s takeover of Prussia, instead decided to sue the government. The German courts, mostly holdovers from the previous Reich, intentionally procrastinated on ruling against Von Papen, and their ruling, when it did come, was too weak to stop anything.
Thanks, interesting video. BTW I really like the Lempicka paintings.
Thanks!
Peter O'Tool plays a great Paul von Hindenburg :P
I remember the movie. O'Toole looked like a skinny guy wearing a fat man's suit.
Yes, though we prefer him as T. E. Lawrence.
And just a few years later a blimp cosplays Hindenburg but ends up getting roasted!
@@TimeGhost true!
@@abrahkadabra9501 HAHAHAHA yes!
The failure of, the enemy of my enemy is my friend !
another error: when he became chancellor, Papen was outcast from the Zentrum party so he had no political party behined him aside from the DNVP headed by hugenberg
Things can't be _too_ bad, but.... Indy's only drinking (from his rather stylish glass) some nice refreshing alpine spring water.
Right?
Given that it's him I can only imagine that it must be vodka or something similar. Not actual H2O!
Look at that modern art behind him. It will never last
Nice one Indy and crew......sola dosis facit venenum
That final speech from Indy: dayum!
These episodes are getting quite spicy the closer we are coming to the WW2. I sometimes wonder if the Nazism could have been stopped in Germany through the politics alone, but seeing these events and outcomes makes me think that in the best case it could only be delayed, but hardily completely stopped.
@Fabian Kirchgessner I would even go further than that - had von Papen not been able to pour so much poison in Hindenburg's ear, the November election would have led to another free election in 1933 to resolve the hung parliament (instead of the sham elections that we will now witness next year). As you point out the economy was already recovering by then and things would have looked very, very different.
However, arguably the die was already cast when Hindenburg allowed von Papen to make himself Dictator of Prussia - as we shall see that move is what enables Göring to take over that position and interestingly enough, Göring's position as Ministerpräsident and Reichsstatthalter of Prussia turns out to be much more instrumental in the power grab than Hitler's as Kanzler.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Yes, but that is what I meant to say. The support for Hitler and his party rose again after the events with Bruenning and they continued so with each new election. What I mean to say is even if they somehow continued to stall the government and not elect Hitler as chancellor, it would just again delay the inevitable and even possibly make the Nazis stronger once they actually got to power.
Also, it is in the end a bit difficult to say what could have happened in either case. For example, had the Nazis decided to continue consolidating their power and not invade Poland in 1939, but actually a few years later how it was originally planned, then maybe we could have even seen a much grimmer scenario.
@TimeGhost History You never explained why after coming back from the negotiation table were they mad at him they got the payments dismissed except for one last time, why were they so mad? Or were they going to be mad no matter what he came back with? 10:00 can you help me understand why they are so mad? Thanks.
I've been binge watching all of your series recently (not done yet!). I have a suggestion on a possible future series: the end of the Cold War. From the Soviet invasion of Afganistan in 1979 to Christmas day 1991. I lived through almost 7 years of that period. Would love to see a desk full of 1970's-1990's stuff and an outfit from that period!
I didn't know that Prussia was such a large part of Germany.
I thought it included only the area later would be DDR, Silecia and eastern Prussia.
Thus, Bavaria and Prussia amounted for the 90% of Germany.
@Fabian Kirchgessner i thought that the kingdoms, principalities and free cities that existed before 1870 had become states in the federation. But it seems that few of them had survived by 1870 as independent political entities.
@@georget8008 As pointed out, the Rhineland was a major addition, as well as was the former kingdom of Hanover, which was annexed during the Prussian-Austrian war (also called the German-German war) of 1866.
@Fabian Kirchgessner Prussia also had a few smaller footholds in the West from the centuries before 🙂
Don't forget Saxony also. Leipzig and Dresden largest cities.
What happened to the "Chiang Kai Shek goes north in 1927" video?
It will be covered in the 1935 The Long March episode
Well done.
Never seen or heard the actual events told. Maybe I should have read them myself...
SPD and KPD could not meet and make a coalition government because of mutual hostility after the events of 1918, but also because of the Comintern's doctrine of "Social Fascism". This theory was dictated by USSR and was very popular in KPD in the 1930s, and claimed that because capitalism was on the brink of collapse, social democracy blocking the way of the workers to power with laws or calls for reformist approach, was a left "wing of fascism". SPD also hated KPD for trying to destabilize Weimar Republic , which was an offspring of the social democrat Ebert.
After the fall of Weimar Republic and the extermination of the German Communists, the Soviets were shocked. They realised that the previous doctrine was not only obscure, but also allowed the fascists to more easily gain power, and finally eradicate communists. Thus, the Comintern proposed the new doctrine of the antifascist 'Popular Front"; wherever possible communists would form alliances with socialists or socialdemocrats to prevent the rise of fascism. This approach had mixed results; in France in 1935 communists and socialists had formed a left-wing government that prevented the descent of the country towards right-wing authoritarianism, but could not prevent Franco winning the civil war in Spain (although this is much more complicated).
It remains a big "what if" , if the SPD and KPD could have formed a coalition in 1932, because the majority of the Germans before Hitler becoming chancellor were in fact left-wing , socialist leaning.
PS. Also, in USA the communists after the events in Germany were supportive of Roosevelt and the New Deal.
@Fabian Kirchgessner this was mostly a Cold War thing
I was looking for a smoke alarm but realized it was your video going off.
An unstable Wessel used as a Ship of State.
Crapsized on his maiden voyage.
Thank you.great explanation
I clicked "like" on a video that is wall-to-wall horrible news. Bad news is still bad, but I appreciate being more informed. Thank you.
Politics was always boring topic for me, but I was watching this episode like the most suspenseful thriller movie. Indy, you know how to captivate your audience... if only Germany had you at the time ;))
Ok for boring but vital and necessary. If you familiarize yourself with the major features of politics, events over time. Real ideology and not just the demands of the day. Then it will be exciting and real.
That's what you've experienced with Indy
Glad to see the three bulb lamp has been fixed.
It was never broken, the dark bulb was on purpose ;-)
is it just me? or like has ANYONE else noticed the fact that THE ENTIRE TIME Indy's been sitting & talking, that right in front of him, there's been a friggin plain ol' MIRROR on his desk... WITH GIANT LINES OF COKE ON IT !?!? .... like seriously, AM I the *ONLY* ONE SEEIN THIS?!?
Can somebody tell me what the picture of the woman with the green dress on the left is called, or who the artist is? Thanks 🙂
The artist is Tamara Łempicka. The left-hand painting is called 'Portrait of a Young Girl in a Green Dress' and the right-hand one is titled 'Portrait De Madame Boucard'.
@@TimeGhost thank you very much 🤗
Damn, that was a great last line!
Spartacus is proudly flattered (if you mean the dragon line) - if you mean the venom one the poet Rumi is flattered in his grave.
Wow, Particullary good Episode!
Wait...am I watching the fall of the Weimar or Galactic Republic?
Indy, another great video thank you! I especially loved that last paragraph! Please run for president of Australia. I will vote for you!
Don't I have to be a citizen?
woah it seems von papen did more damage than hitler and yet his role is always down played, i always thought it was hitler who got the emergency powers signed in to become the dictator of germany but here we find it was von papen, was this historians just trying to make hitler seems even eviler or?
Papen was certainly quite instrumental in *getting* Hitler into power, and bears a lot of responsibility for the end of the Weimar democracy. But he was nowhere near what Hitler did later.
Papen's "dictatorship" was very much limited at the time - he was still massively dependent on Hindenburg's good will, and had next to no allies in German politics, at all. And even during his chancellorship, the remnants of the Weimar system were still in place - there were parties, and elections, and some form of separation of power.
Hitler did away with all that, and transformed Germany into a dictatorship that was very different, and much more profound than Papen ever achieved, or even wanted. Papen was an authoritarian monarchist, not a totalitarian dictator.
Hey TimeGhostArmy i am portuguese and i feel that our rise to fascism with Salazar Regime was kinda important are we gonna get any metion in the future?
Sorry for the bad English.
We will cover the worldwide surge of Fascism in a separate episode not too long from now ;-)
this is fascinating. You're doing a better job at educating me about this than the German education system did
Yes, it is very fascinating! Thank you for your comment!