"I'm demoting you" "Why? What for?" "I'm jealous of your fame." "Fine, I'll jump over your head then." *Becomes a politician, effectively becoming his boss* "I'm the captain now."
I think the worst part of all this is how based on how IH describes it, if they just had 1 less error on their mountain of errors they would have made it fine, which is mind blowing
To be fair, if you specify that "Even considering doing the sail by salute at all" as one of the mistakes, then it was always possible to fix one issue and snowball all the rest away.
Butterfly effect in effect, so many things piled up, often as a result of something else, and then the way to get out of it was so technical it only added more mental load on the crew.
Just wanted to point out that Schettino definitely changed into a suit so that people wouldn't be able to immediately tell he was the captain when he abandoned ship
In the even more tragic Sewol accident, the captain did the same. The entire crew left the boat while a bunch of kids were on board who were told to stay in their cabins previously. Most of them drowned.
Thank you for 7k!!! I'm currently live on twitch! (Pinebaby_vt) Have a good day/night! also sorry for any audio issues ^-^ I tried fixing what I could ^-^
Halfway through the video it turned from wholesome laughing to a gremlin rage. If you want some more Internet Historian recommendations, his videos on Fallout 76 and No Man's Sky are the big ones. Great video.
For context, it was in fact thousands. A little over 3,000 passengers were on board. I too thought "thousands" might be too many originally, but no. Hundreds is underselling it. So any anger, indignation, etc. you might feel towards the captain and bridge crew is even more justified.
You also have to count hundreds of workers in the ship. There were restaurants, shops, bars, casinos, spas etc and mechanics to keep the engine running.
4:03 Fun fact - usually, the bottle that's used for this, is actually specially made to be brittle to guarantee that it would break. Though it seems that the company even stiffed out to pay for a bottle...
That's really why the bottle not breaking in seen as a really bad omen, especially today. If they were willing to cheap out on something super public that's really cheap what sort of expensive things that nobody will ever see did they cheap out on?
Even Funner Fact: more ships where the bottle breks have disasters then those where it bounces... so in reality, the bottle breaking is more bad luck then it bouncing... Just FYI this si based on ships that HAVE disasters AND did a bottle breaing ceremony, in reality most ships don't do bottle breaking ceremonies at all, for instance the Titanic never had the ceremony despite people erroneously saying it did and the bottle bounced... My point is, very few ships even do boat christening ceremonies where they smash a bottle and of the few that even do it, of all the ships that have disasters most had the bottle smash so it's a joke to say it's bad luck.
An interesting twist of irony with the loss of MS _Costa Concordia_ was how the lifeboats were used. Following the sinking of RMS _Titanic_ in April 1912, ships began carrying enough lifeboats for all aboard. When _Costa Concordia_ got into her little calamity, the ship had keeled over too much that only half the lifeboats could be used and had to go back and pick up more survivors, acting like a bunch ferries between the stricken vessel and shore. The irony is being used as ferries was the exact point of lifeboats BEFORE the sinking of _Titanic_ in 1912!
And in this episode Pine gets a first hand lesson on what "Murphy's Law" is and how big of a Rube Goldberg machine of suffering someone can make with a big ship and an incompitent crew.
“But it’s so engaging I feel like I’m watching a movie.” This is why I love IH’s content. Even their ADVERTISING is highly entertaining, let alone the main content.
Never get tired of internet historian reactions. Not too shocked by the low sentence, for better or worse most European countries are a LOT more “forgiving” than the US when it comes to sentences. Also the q&a video about this vid is really interesting and worth watching, wish more people reacted to that one.
Same. The Q&A is nicely paced, a nice blend of humor/seriousness/info/corrections, and one of my fave incognito vids. Admittedly releasing it so late definitely killed traffic for it, probably more so than it being a Q&A.
Titanic was an accident that happened due to poor view and not having enough technology to know what might happen Here the accident happned because it was mostly bad people at the wrong place at the wrong time. A captain that doesn't know and doesn't care about what's he is doing and the staff next to him were generally scummy.
Actually, when the Titanic was originally built, the company that was constructing it had cut costs, and used low-grade rivets. Even with the poor view, they might have stood a chance, and prevented more less lives lost.b
The worst part is when you understand how physics works. That ship was big. Like BIIIIIIG. And it's not like it slammed head first into the rock and basically came to a grinding halt, like in the case of a car crash. Most people on the ship probably heard the crash. A lot may have felt it. But it's pretty unlikely anyone would have died as a result of the actual collision with the rock. The physics just doesn't work out, the ship didn't lose enough speed to cause damage to people. Maybe some things fell off shelves or something like that, oooooh, but you'll note at the time of the crash, the magician's magic box, which those are all on WHEELS, was fine. So if even THAT didn't move from the crash, it's very very very likely NOBODY was injured as a result of the crash. In this kind of situation, the danger comes, when the ship stops floating properly. If that shit starts TILTING, suddenly there's danger absolutely everywhere. Just imagine trying to walk down a hallway and then it just starts tilting, and that's the least of it. That's where the injuries are going to come from, the ship changing its orientation as a result of the crash. As we see, it runs aground, and starts tilting HEAVILY, it's almost rolled over and if that shit rolls, A LOT more people would've died. But that's not what happened AT THE TIME OF THE COLLISION. If the "captain" had called the abandon ship as SOON as the engineers told him how fucked the ship was, it's likely NOBODY would have died. First because the crash almost certainly didn't cause any deaths, even being extremely pessimistic, maybe it could've caused a few injuries. Then there's the lifeboats, they would have ALL been able to be used, and they were of course very close to shore, so if they'd just abandoned ship as soon as they saw the damage, they could've gotten everyone off much faster, and staff that was searching for anyone left behind would have MUCH more time to do it. By the time the "captain" called for everyone to leave, they had already run aground, so it was basically nearly as bad as it could possibly get. The ship's tilt meant many of the lifeboats couldn't be used, so that slowed everything down. Then the ship tilted even more so that slowed it that much more. Schettino, as the one in charge of the ship, by refusing to accept he fucked up, maximized suffering and death. It's basically just LUCK that the ship didn't roll over entirely, which would've killed everyone still on board for sure. Which wouldn't have included him, as he abandoned ship well before that would've happened of course.
@@jrny20 ACKSHUALLY not true at all. White Star Line had an excellent and long working relationship with Harland and Wolf, their main shipwright firm. They gave H&W a blank cheque to basically do whatever they needed to to make the Olympic-class the largest, most luxurious man-made moving objects on the ocean, and they did. While the strength of the metal used is considered weak today, it was standard for the day, as were the riveting techniques. They even used some hydraulic presses on top of driving them in by hand. The Olympic-class had multiple safety measures and redundancies in place, however it did not have a full double-skin until after _Titanic_ 's sinking. _Olympic_ was refit to include double-hulled sides, and _Britannic_ was actually enlarged to accommodate for a full double hull without losing any interior space. To compensate so they wouldn't lose any speed as well, H&W created the largest low-pressure steam turbine engine ever made for the central propeller. _Titanic_ was sunk by multiple small factors, from delays caused by weather and using parts from _Titanic_ to repair damage to _Olympic_ , resulting in her maiden and only voyage taking place when ice floes had come further south; the ice floes becalmed the waters within the ice field that resulted, making it significantly more difficult to spot any pack ice icebergs, as did the moonless night. This same calm made it possible, however, to load the lifeboats more heavily, provided the crew were not afraid of the suction from the ship sinking; Philips and Bride, the wireless operators, were on contract from the Marconi Wireless Company, thus not technically part of the crew. They had other priorities besides keeping the captain informed of every message. Having repaired their set, they were making an effort to catch up with the backlog of messages between passengers and their family. At one point they told _SS Californian_ 's wireless operator to shut up. With his ship anchored for the night, that operator went to bed for the night, and his captain decided not to wake him to try to contact _Titanic_ about the funny lights they saw. Philips and Bride did not pass every lifeboat warning to the bridge, so even though _RMS Carpathia_ 's captain figured Smith would order his ship around the ice and take the delay, he never did; Theory is also that Fleet would have spotted the iceberg sooner if he'd had access to a pair of binoculars, the officer responsible for the key to the cabinet having missed the ship. This might have been true if the lookouts knew where to look, since binoculars only zoom in, so you have to already be looking at the thing. A searchlight would have helped, but it'd also have killed their nightvision. So about 50/50 on that. Finally, there's the damage. The collision resulted in a series of long breeches in the hull, with the fatal one being a slash that just barely breeched a fifth compartment. Hull plating also came loose from their rivets in places because of the force of the collision, and it was enough. There was no way the crew was going to seal the breeches with so much water coming in, nor could the pumps keep up with it. It was such an overwhelming amount, it was quickly coming down on the heads of those down in the boiler rooms because the water filled up the previous compartment and came in over the watertight bulkheads, which were not high enough to be watertight in reality. The reason for their lowering was basically the same as the reason for reducing the number of lifeboats aboard: Make the ship more open and less of a maze. Speaking of lifeboats, back then they were seen as a way to ferry passengers to a rescue ship already waiting on-scene. The number of people who regularly died trying to evacuate in storms out of a lack of choice meant passengers would rather stay on the ship. Lifeboats today are very different, and are designed to maximize survivability. They're usually covered, won't fall apart, overturn, or catch on the hull. Also, anyone who thinks _Titanic_ is bad should look into _Empress of Ireland_ , and for casualty count, the _MV Dona Paz_ 's collision with the _MV Vector_ . For corruption and incompetence, there is _MV Sewol_ .
Fun Fact: Carnival Corporation owns Cunard Lines. Cunard was White Star's principle competition in Britain. The government made them merge after the First World War because neither was doing particularly well. Someone determined that control would be determined by hull tonnage. Since White Star had lost _Titanic_ (iceberg), _Britannic_ (struck a mine), and recently to then _Olympic_ (scrapped beside Cunard's own _Mauretania_ ), they had a lot less hull than Cunard. The superliner J. Bruce Ismay had started to have built before his death, _Oceanic III_ , got scrapped with its parts being used for the mid-scale MV Georgic instead. _Georgic_ and MV Britannic were the last ships built for White Star. Within a few years of the White Star-Cunard merger, 'White Star' was dropped from the name. Instead of _Oceanic III_ , Cunard had their own superliner built, _RMS Queen Mary_ , which currently serves as a hotel. While ocean liners have almost always served double duty and done cruises on their off-season, cruise ships are built to carry as many people at once as possible, not to forge difficult Atlantic weather. They are therefore given permission to deviate from their course without having to ask for permission to avoid rough weather and storms, only having to ask if the course change is very significant. Ocean liners are quite literally built differently, with thicker steel and longer hulls to deal with fiercer water. The only ocean liner which serves the traditional Southampton - New York transatlantic route today is _RMS Queen Mary 2_ . _QM2_ is operated by Cunard Line. Cunard is owned by Carnival Corp. Carnival also owns Costa Concierge. This makes _QM2_ and _Costa Concordia_ cousins, although distantly. _QM2_ is fortunately operated according to far stricter standards, otherwise she'd never have made it to be 20 years old.
Concordia (290m long, 36m wide, 3700 passengers) was actually not even close to the largest size many cruise ships are, believe it or not. For example, the largest cruise ship today is Icon Of The Seas. That behemoth is a whopping 364 meters long, 48 meters wide, holds 7600 passengers, has 20 decks (floors), has a full size water park with seven pools and six slides, 40 restaurants and pubs plus night clubs, shopping streets, spas and much more. Cost €1.86 Billion to build. All for a floating amusement park/holiday resort. Pretty nuts when you think about it.
@@sisi4508 I'm not gonna be that dude and argue for no reason but I am quite a ship lover so I feel my need to argue here. Concordia was part of the Concordia-class ships (fitting name) made in Italy and while she was the largest made in Italy at the time, globally the class could not compete with the biggest. When she was launched in 2005 she was already smaller than all Voyager class ships. Voyager Of The Seas (1999), Explorer Of The Seas (2000), Adventure Of The Seas (2001), Navigator of the Seas (2002) and Mariner Of The Seas (2003) were all a minimum of 300 meters, wider and heavier than Concordia (first one planned and started nearly a decade before she was built). And those were just a few examples. Many cruise ships outmatched Concordia when she was built. Her purpose wasn't being the largest, it was luxury and the area she cruised in.
There’s a good documentary on UA-cam about this that uses the passengers video footage during the event to recreate the whole thing. Plus that coast guard captain is awesome!
3:31 No, not really. I mean, yeah, balance isn't something you can just _ignore,_ but it's not particularly hard to do, either. Even for a ship that size. 6;35 Unless there's an actual, major storm going on right at that moment, no, it's not a problem. 10:30 LOL I love how you had to qualify that with "...legally". Loved the reaction!
10:00 It’s not uncommon to have inexperienced sailors on the helm. Their job is execute orders from the officer in charge. It IS importantly that those sales be able to understand the orders, which was the problem
IH’s vid on the Costa Concordia allision (yeah, that’s the right word for it; collisions involve more than one moving object) makes me interested in what he might do for a video about the sinking of the ferry Estonia
It took the captain nearly an hour to declare distress. That's insane to me. I can understand that initial urge to try and hide the problem, but I would very quickly be overtaken by the fear that things will be much worse for me if I don't do my due diligence and get all the help I need pronto. Like, it's not just the passengers. You're hurting yourself, too.
10:00 To be fair, helmsmen can one of the lowest ranking positions on any ship with a traditional navel crew. Sure, you need to be able to know how to actually steer and how to read heading, but beyond that it's literally just following the conning officer's (person in charge of the bridge; it can be the Captain, but more often than not it's delegated to someone else) directions on where to point the ship. The helmsman doesn't even control speed, he relays that order to someone else. An important thing is that there should be a clear and distinct change of command when switching officers, and only the conning officer is able to order a change in directions. Even if the Captain is on the bridge, if he hasn't formally taken the conn, only the orders of the conning officer are to be followed. This is to avoid confusing the crew on who's orders are to be followed if multiple people are giving conflicting orders.
27:55 If I was in this situation of being on a literal sinking ship and the captain told me to stay on the damn boat I would be convinced that he or she is a psychopath
I don’t have memory issues for example due to my stress and depression accidentally put milk into the pantry instead of the fridge. I keep forgetting where I’m going. I keep forgetting the most basic shit. I forgot where I left my phone like two minutes ago and just found it.
The thing about this story in particular that I personally believe doesn't get talked about enough is the accountability of all the other people on the bridge that day. Yes the Captain is a scumbag for what he did after the crash but before the crash multiple factors were at play that lead to the crash and not all of them were caused by the Captain. For example it was the 3rd Officer's job to keep the Captain informed of their current position every time he gives out a new directional order. In other words it was the 3rd Officer's job to keep the Captain informed. And personally I'd also argue that the Helmsman was more responsible for the actual crash since it was his last minute mistake that made sure the ship would crash. From what IH said it seems like if it wasn't for that mistake they COULD have avoided the crash. But again this is all before the crash, AFTER the crash though yeah the Captain deserves all the hate he gets.
Yes though to be fair the Helmsman seems like he shouldn't have been in that position at all due to his lacking language skills to communicate and his general lack of qualifications other than being cheap. So I also think it is a bit on Costa Crociere and their hiring/training practices and it seems like it was a pretty huge issue with almost everyone on the bridge seemingly making bad decisions and not properly following procedures
If you haven't already and want to check out more from Internet Historian, (and as long as you're not _too_ claustrophobic lol) I can't recommend his video "Man in Cave (Reupload)" enough! It's a longer video but the story itself is incredible and the production value behind it is amazing.
@@kingofflames738 It's such a shame IH didn't just ask for permission to turn the article into a video or worked out some kind of deal with the original author. Not like the video was devoid of effort and I likely never would have known about that story if it weren't for IH.
FFS people, he already worked things out with the original author and the reupload is a seriously changed video that cannot even be compared to plagiarism. Do your own research, seriously.
@@niravathu7353 from what I found he lied about reconciling with the original creator of the article. IH never even contacted him afterwards when the article creator was asked.
@@kingofflames738The original creator doesn’t matter in this regard. They don’t own it, the site they published it from does. The original creator has no say in it, hence there is no reason to ask them.
And because Murphy and Irony are sadists, Costa Crociere is owned by the same group that also now owns White Star Lines (aka the owner of the Titanic). 05:48 Thing is (it has been discussed in other channels, including one owned by a sailor), accidents like the one Schettino had pre-Concordia's sinking were normal and accepted for cruiser ships' captains.
as a passanger on the concordia the trip before it sank. here is some missing information. there were: -no childrens lifevests so children wouldve had to do there best with lifejackets that were several sizes too big to actually do anything properly. -not enough escape boats for the amount of people on it, if it had sunk further out in the ocean they would have barely fit anyone on the rafts. The reason for this is the architect didn't like how the required amount of life boats looked - atrocious level of effort put into any safety instructions, you'd have been better off not paying attention to the "drills"
I can watch multiple reaction of IH videos and would never get bored. Another good CC to react is Michael reeves they upload once a year but its a banger everytime
To answer your question about open drinks in ship, it wouldn’t be a problem for the most part. A ship as large as the Concordia, you wouldn’t feel the waves unless you caught in a storm, which they actively avoid.
There's some pretty haunting pictures of a pitcher and glass standing right where a passenger left them in the forward section of the _Titanic_ wreck. That's how stable she was, and the Olympic-class would be considered small, or medium-scale at best today.
Pine, I'll give you a tip, read the caption because historian usually explain a little more when you see them or say something that needs more details. Also, you should see the man in a cave by internet historian its a pretty good video.
My aunt was on the ship and her cabin and was on the side of it when it submerged, and she distinctly recalled the Captain at the time was with his "girlfriend" and having dinner she said it was well known amongst a lot of the passengers that he was "showing off" to her during the cruise they never expected him to carry out such a dangerous action, but he did she said he struck her as wholly irresponsible and should not have been in command of said ship at the time. The man was a coward he skipped off the ship as soon as it became clear just how serious this incident was, my Aunt said she was so thankful it was near to land i.e. the small island that a great many of the passengers either got rescued to or in some cases swarm and were picked up either way the Captain was incompetent and in this case extremely dangerous blame for what happened was on him, yet he tried to deflect it and pin it to others. The list goes on and on. Personally, it was entirely preventable, but it still happened and sadly people lost lives all because of the vanity and the need to show off one man. Note for context watched a lot of videos on this some of what I said may not be factually correct I am aware of this but the fact that someone in my own family was put at risk, but the idiocy of a few people makes me rightly fully bloody angry over it so please excuse any errors I may have made.
LET THE INTERNET HISTORIAN REACTION ARC BEGIN! Can't wait for reactions to: business is professional The Varus & the varus strakes buck (oh wait i see The Varus in recommendations lol) The area between 50 and 52 the fall of 76 man in cave the failure of fyre festival rainfurrest engoodening of no man's sky
The Costa company hired Jacob "at a rock bottom price" as IH said, despite the them knowing he had no prior experience with steering a ship nor does he speak English or Italian. If anything, it's the company's fault for hiring him.
I just found this channel and I got to about 8 mins in, what exactly has this girl been fighting through? Like my god, it sounds awful wild and I hope she's still doing better.
When I took driver's education while visiting my dad in Illinois, two sisters in my class drove to class every day. Both were still in high school and obviously neither of them had their learner's permit yet. 😂
Well I learned something about the book he published The translation is The Truth Submerged in where characterized himself as a hero. The book is controversially dedicated to the victims of the catastrophe. Of course many in the media criticized the book especially how especially tried to profit of the disaster and paint himself in a better light.
I knew a swedish artist Hugh Hammarstrom who did that, living on a cruise ship. Cruise ships are actually rarely ever at capacity, *but obviously empty cruise ships look bad!* So the more cruises you book on the same ship, the cheaper it gets. It even falls during housing crises, because people get antsy about money and luxury expenses. Remember all the technical errors happening with Concordia. This is common on older ships once they are paid for. "If it floats, it's good enough!" Cheap labour and "just enough" maintenance allows them to offer cheap packages. It is actually most expensive to take just *ONE* cruise with no followup plan, then you are getting charged full price for everything. It is better to figure out a schedule and "make it a commitment." Similarly longer cruises are less expensive by day than shorter. A 30 day route costs a third of a 7 day trip like Concordia. *The sole exception to how the industry works?* Disney. _Because Disney supports top of the line maintenance with its parks!_
'Trapped,' but yes. Partly because the crew told them everything was fine. If they'd known the ship lost main power, they'd never have risked the elevators.
@@BNuts Elevators are sketchy under the best of conditions. On a ship where there was just a loud crashing sound, power outage and listing? Nah, ill take the stairs.
7:12 bigger the boat, the less liquids move around, this is way drink and the pool you'll be on a boat with no problem. Speed boats are the worst to have any liquids on them. 10:34 he was cheap to hire, that's way he's driving.
Why is he steering the ship? Because it's cheaper than hiring someone trained to do it (and paying them properly.) And that language barrier? SailorVince, a real navigation officer, watched this video and mentioned an incident he was involved in IIRC of where two ships owned by the same company colliding into one another because the crews could not properly communicate due to language barriers.
Id love to see you do some reactions to The Fat Electricion. . i think you wold like the sargent reckless one most but the way he delivers his storys are funny but serious and he picks some good historical events like old 666 and the burbary wars why the us navy was formed
Schettino does deserve the shit he got for his actions after the sinking, but compared to other Captains who went AWOL as soon as something went wrong to the point it’d sink/capsize, he’s not the worst.
never went on a cruise ship but had to use a ship to go to corsica and it's a pleasant experience I would recommend if you can. Even if it's for a short trip like a few hours
she should watch the video about the same thing on his other channel. he explains a lot of things there. like the fact that the captain was not THAT bad. or at least not as bad as what he made him in the video. it was not just his fault and there was multiple events that seemed like his fault but that were completly out of his controle. the police and other officers on the boat also LIED about some facts that were recorded but ignored my the media and the justice.
If u look at the weight distribution and the center of mass then yes there is a balancing issue becouse the ships are so tall and top heavy. But ofc they have added ways of stabilizing the ships below the water line but yeah the basic design of most cruise ships are not stable becouse of the huge amount of weight so far above the waterline. What he said about route deviation isent entierly true. I´m sure companys put some pressure on captains to get there as fast as possable but regardless the situation a Captain always have the last say and can overule anything for any reson. This is for safety reson so if a storm moves in or any other reson the captain thinks its not safe he can always change the route however he wish regardless how mutch longer the route is gonna be.
23:05 look up Sinking of the Concordia caught on camera by Matt Antcliff, its such a massive comedy of errors, *YES IT WAS THAT SONG* 😅 bit hard to hear with all the panic going on, guy stitched together a "movie" utilising all the found footage from cell cameras. Also the common standard is only 2 breaches because these extend across the *entire* ship. That's a lot of water weight to carry! Look how wide it is! Warships by comparison are very narrow, so they can take up to 6. Also breach rating is towards just one side. If you have breaches on either end, that will make it _slighty less bad_ as the weight is evened out. So 3/5/7 instead of 2/4/6 Not entirely related, but if you like ships and soothing voices there's The Mighty Jingles. Even though I stopped playing WoW years ago I still watch his videos before going to sleep, he's like the David Attenborough of clan ship battles 😂
Cruise ships are BIG. Like crazy big. They're still not nearly as big as aircraft carriers though, those things are just ludicrous. The bigger a ship is, the less sway you're going to feel, so putting things on shelves and even having things like the magician's magic box which is gonna be on WHEELS, is totally fine. Because as far as everything on the ship is concerned, the ship isn't swaying at all. Now on a smaller ship, that's a totally different story. So like old wooden ships? Yeah those are not wheel friendly. We've gotten EXTREMELY good at building ships, so cruise ships are actually pretty safe. So long as nobody's doing something stupid with them that is. Yeah after watching this video especially, I don't think anyone will judge you for keeping your distance from cruise ships. Like if you get the chance to just like, SEE one up close, you should still do it though. They're simply marvels of engineering.
Hey, if you're enjoying getting upset about disasters, could I suggest a couple of other channels you might like? Neither would be great react content but they're still really worth checking out The first is the Well There's Your Problem podcast, is an engineering disasters podcast with slides. They strike a good balance between funny and serious and provide a lot of detail and commentary on the situation. The hosts will be just as upset as you are when someone gets a lot of other people hurt. The other is Brick Immortar. It's a lot more serious and professional and does a great job of instilling the cold dread of mistakes and failures compounding on eachother until someone gets hurt. These videos can be really heavy if that's what you're looking for
I still feel sad that a captain literally and legally has to go down with the ship. The fact that you can get sued for leaving a ship early is just bizarre to me. Though, of course, he deserved every other charge given to ‘em!
They don't have to literally go down with the ship, but as captain, they have to be in place to coordinate all evacuation operations as long as there are people to evacuate. That's part of their duties and responsibility as captain. People stuck on the ship are still relying on them. They can't do much if they're miles away in a hotel on land.
Odd how many streamers who react to this don't seem to remember then event or even never heard of it, or not much at least. I always assumed that this was one of the biggest things that happend in the past 20 years but it seems it wasn't such a big deal in news everywhere, interesting. Side note:Is it just me or does anyone else find it rather confusing that there are many people in the comments complaining about her talking alot? This is a reaction, adding to the video by talking is the point of a reaction.
*37:30 ish speaking the truth loot boxes were better than what we get today and to add on Overwatch 1 better than Overwatch 2 we need to go back in time to when things were better.
So sadly there is a little bit of misinformation going on here to be dramatic. The second "crash" was nothing more than one of the ramps hitting the side wall. Something that happens a lot with ships on the ocean. Second while the captain was in the security field at first it was only because he was waiting to get his foot in the door for a captains role to open. He was still undergoing captains training the entire time. Internet Historian made a Q&A video about this which I say is worth watching for more accuracy. After looking at both and reading up on the events it is my opinion the crash was not the captains fault at all. The helmsman was entirely to blame for not steering correctly and the company was at fault for hiring the helmsman. Everything AFTER the crash was entirely the captains fault and he is a coward because of it.
He did add text that said he didn't find any photos from the incident so he added a pic from a movie. People just don't read that text even though it's in center of the screen
@@frozencrow8735 this is true, but also not really what I was trying to say. He couldn't find any photos though because the "crash" was so small and didn't really do anything to the ship. It got pushed in the wind and broke a ramp.
The captain is the one who chose to do the sail by salute and the company should have never hired the helmsman to begin with. Being bad at your job shouldnt be a crime.
@@nathanpapp432 The captain was expected to do the sail by. It practically became an advertised feature on a cruise ship before all this happened. I wouldn't be surprised if the company would berate him if he decided against it. If the helmsman followed the orders correctly then none of this would have happened. But don't get me wrong as everything the captain did after the crash was cowardly and despicable. He deserved a long time in jail for the aftermath.
@@YukoValis So what if he was expected to do it? It was risky and dangerous. If an employee is incapable of doing a job well then the fault is with the entity who hired them. The company, capitan and 3rd officer (who wasnt doing her job AT ALL) are the most at fault.
Not to defend Schettino because it was his negligence that put the ship in peril in the first place but to be fair to him he did give all the correct orders to avoid the rocks, it’s just that the inexperienced helmsman messed it up. Like I said I’m not defending him, it’s his fault they’re in that situation but he did give all the correct orders to get out of it.
Yeah I also saddened how bad The Sims 4 turn out to be even to this day. Except for some modders and cc outfits/items that EA can't even scratch what they made. The sims nowadays is showcasing where is EA political views nowadays than actually add anything really new. And Jacob Rusli bin get back to Indonesia, perfect place to disappear lmao. His own country and how bad Indonesia organize who exactly in their country especially for regular civilian. He pretty much escaping the jailtime forever.
I liked InternetHistorian's "Man in Cave" movie. HOWEVER the original version was taken down after it was found out the script was plagiarized from an online news article. The reuploaded version kept most things the same but changed some narration and kinda made it not feel as impactful. Still worth watching the reupload if available right now.
"I'm demoting you"
"Why? What for?"
"I'm jealous of your fame."
"Fine, I'll jump over your head then."
*Becomes a politician, effectively becoming his boss*
"I'm the captain now."
I think the worst part of all this is how based on how IH describes it, if they just had 1 less error on their mountain of errors they would have made it fine, which is mind blowing
To be fair, if you specify that "Even considering doing the sail by salute at all" as one of the mistakes, then it was always possible to fix one issue and snowball all the rest away.
@@tasbard8545 lol fair enough, but lets not forget how so many other technical errors were on board plus the captain and crew being so poorly managed
Agreed
That's true of a LOT of accidents that kill lots of people
Butterfly effect in effect, so many things piled up, often as a result of something else, and then the way to get out of it was so technical it only added more mental load on the crew.
Just wanted to point out that Schettino definitely changed into a suit so that people wouldn't be able to immediately tell he was the captain when he abandoned ship
In the even more tragic Sewol accident, the captain did the same. The entire crew left the boat while a bunch of kids were on board who were told to stay in their cabins previously. Most of them drowned.
@@realglutenfreeyup the kids who didn’t listen survived, proving once again you can’t trust authorities.
Thank you for 7k!!! I'm currently live on twitch! (Pinebaby_vt) Have a good day/night! also sorry for any audio issues ^-^ I tried fixing what I could ^-^
I recommend you watch his other video where he talks about the process and the outtakes, the Costa q&a, or the Engoodaning of no mans sky
I highly recommend the video The Fall of 76 by Internet Historian as well.
Audio sounds fine just had to turn it up a bit.
Halfway through the video it turned from wholesome laughing to a gremlin rage.
If you want some more Internet Historian recommendations, his videos on Fallout 76 and No Man's Sky are the big ones.
Great video.
For context, it was in fact thousands. A little over 3,000 passengers were on board.
I too thought "thousands" might be too many originally, but no. Hundreds is underselling it. So any anger, indignation, etc. you might feel towards the captain and bridge crew is even more justified.
that's horrific. I was wishing I was wrong, and it would only be hundreds :c
You also have to count hundreds of workers in the ship. There were restaurants, shops, bars, casinos, spas etc and mechanics to keep the engine running.
@@PineBabywhat makes this situation worse is the fact that the captain only got ten years.
@@gamingforever9121he got 16 years his appeal was denied
4:03 Fun fact - usually, the bottle that's used for this, is actually specially made to be brittle to guarantee that it would break. Though it seems that the company even stiffed out to pay for a bottle...
That's really why the bottle not breaking in seen as a really bad omen, especially today. If they were willing to cheap out on something super public that's really cheap what sort of expensive things that nobody will ever see did they cheap out on?
@@weabootrash5891 At the end of the day it was company policy that let all this happen to begin with.
Isnt back then there is some people that manually smash is into the ship bow, that is guaranteed to break
Even Funner Fact: more ships where the bottle breks have disasters then those where it bounces... so in reality, the bottle breaking is more bad luck then it bouncing... Just FYI this si based on ships that HAVE disasters AND did a bottle breaing ceremony, in reality most ships don't do bottle breaking ceremonies at all, for instance the Titanic never had the ceremony despite people erroneously saying it did and the bottle bounced...
My point is, very few ships even do boat christening ceremonies where they smash a bottle and of the few that even do it, of all the ships that have disasters most had the bottle smash so it's a joke to say it's bad luck.
An interesting twist of irony with the loss of MS _Costa Concordia_ was how the lifeboats were used. Following the sinking of RMS _Titanic_ in April 1912, ships began carrying enough lifeboats for all aboard. When _Costa Concordia_ got into her little calamity, the ship had keeled over too much that only half the lifeboats could be used and had to go back and pick up more survivors, acting like a bunch ferries between the stricken vessel and shore. The irony is being used as ferries was the exact point of lifeboats BEFORE the sinking of _Titanic_ in 1912!
Wonder if they will do something similar with planes and parachute.
And in this episode Pine gets a first hand lesson on what "Murphy's Law" is and how big of a Rube Goldberg machine of suffering someone can make with a big ship and an incompitent crew.
And corruption
“But it’s so engaging I feel like I’m watching a movie.”
This is why I love IH’s content. Even their ADVERTISING is highly entertaining, let alone the main content.
43:32 The reason no Cocaine was found on the ship was because she snorted all of it right before this interview.
Wasn’t he tested IMMEDIATELY after he was detained by the police?
@@ShadiC636 1. I was making a joke. 2. I was talking about the mistress, not the dummy captain.
im like 90% sure that the cocain would of made him a better captain
The fact that some of these crew members were hired in the first place is wild
Never get tired of internet historian reactions. Not too shocked by the low sentence, for better or worse most European countries are a LOT more “forgiving” than the US when it comes to sentences. Also the q&a video about this vid is really interesting and worth watching, wish more people reacted to that one.
Same.
The Q&A is nicely paced, a nice blend of humor/seriousness/info/corrections, and one of my fave incognito vids.
Admittedly releasing it so late definitely killed traffic for it, probably more so than it being a Q&A.
Not just European. Also, almost no one adds sentences, they just take the maximum one and treat the rest as aggravating circumstances.
10:23 the change in voice tone lmao
Went from soft and kind to deeper and angry really quick
Titanic was an accident that happened due to poor view and not having enough technology to know what might happen
Here the accident happned because it was mostly bad people at the wrong place at the wrong time. A captain that doesn't know and doesn't care about what's he is doing and the staff next to him were generally scummy.
Actually, when the Titanic was originally built, the company that was constructing it had cut costs, and used low-grade rivets. Even with the poor view, they might have stood a chance, and prevented more less lives lost.b
The worst part is when you understand how physics works.
That ship was big. Like BIIIIIIG. And it's not like it slammed head first into the rock and basically came to a grinding halt, like in the case of a car crash.
Most people on the ship probably heard the crash.
A lot may have felt it.
But it's pretty unlikely anyone would have died as a result of the actual collision with the rock. The physics just doesn't work out, the ship didn't lose enough speed to cause damage to people. Maybe some things fell off shelves or something like that, oooooh, but you'll note at the time of the crash, the magician's magic box, which those are all on WHEELS, was fine. So if even THAT didn't move from the crash, it's very very very likely NOBODY was injured as a result of the crash.
In this kind of situation, the danger comes, when the ship stops floating properly. If that shit starts TILTING, suddenly there's danger absolutely everywhere. Just imagine trying to walk down a hallway and then it just starts tilting, and that's the least of it.
That's where the injuries are going to come from, the ship changing its orientation as a result of the crash. As we see, it runs aground, and starts tilting HEAVILY, it's almost rolled over and if that shit rolls, A LOT more people would've died.
But that's not what happened AT THE TIME OF THE COLLISION. If the "captain" had called the abandon ship as SOON as the engineers told him how fucked the ship was, it's likely NOBODY would have died. First because the crash almost certainly didn't cause any deaths, even being extremely pessimistic, maybe it could've caused a few injuries. Then there's the lifeboats, they would have ALL been able to be used, and they were of course very close to shore, so if they'd just abandoned ship as soon as they saw the damage, they could've gotten everyone off much faster, and staff that was searching for anyone left behind would have MUCH more time to do it. By the time the "captain" called for everyone to leave, they had already run aground, so it was basically nearly as bad as it could possibly get. The ship's tilt meant many of the lifeboats couldn't be used, so that slowed everything down. Then the ship tilted even more so that slowed it that much more.
Schettino, as the one in charge of the ship, by refusing to accept he fucked up, maximized suffering and death. It's basically just LUCK that the ship didn't roll over entirely, which would've killed everyone still on board for sure. Which wouldn't have included him, as he abandoned ship well before that would've happened of course.
Though In the case of the Titanic the crew was actually competent, put the crew from there on the Costa Concordia and probably no one would have died
@@jrny20 ACKSHUALLY not true at all. White Star Line had an excellent and long working relationship with Harland and Wolf, their main shipwright firm. They gave H&W a blank cheque to basically do whatever they needed to to make the Olympic-class the largest, most luxurious man-made moving objects on the ocean, and they did. While the strength of the metal used is considered weak today, it was standard for the day, as were the riveting techniques. They even used some hydraulic presses on top of driving them in by hand.
The Olympic-class had multiple safety measures and redundancies in place, however it did not have a full double-skin until after _Titanic_ 's sinking. _Olympic_ was refit to include double-hulled sides, and _Britannic_ was actually enlarged to accommodate for a full double hull without losing any interior space. To compensate so they wouldn't lose any speed as well, H&W created the largest low-pressure steam turbine engine ever made for the central propeller.
_Titanic_ was sunk by multiple small factors, from delays caused by weather and using parts from _Titanic_ to repair damage to _Olympic_ , resulting in her maiden and only voyage taking place when ice floes had come further south;
the ice floes becalmed the waters within the ice field that resulted, making it significantly more difficult to spot any pack ice icebergs, as did the moonless night. This same calm made it possible, however, to load the lifeboats more heavily, provided the crew were not afraid of the suction from the ship sinking;
Philips and Bride, the wireless operators, were on contract from the Marconi Wireless Company, thus not technically part of the crew. They had other priorities besides keeping the captain informed of every message. Having repaired their set, they were making an effort to catch up with the backlog of messages between passengers and their family. At one point they told _SS Californian_ 's wireless operator to shut up. With his ship anchored for the night, that operator went to bed for the night, and his captain decided not to wake him to try to contact _Titanic_ about the funny lights they saw. Philips and Bride did not pass every lifeboat warning to the bridge, so even though _RMS Carpathia_ 's captain figured Smith would order his ship around the ice and take the delay, he never did;
Theory is also that Fleet would have spotted the iceberg sooner if he'd had access to a pair of binoculars, the officer responsible for the key to the cabinet having missed the ship. This might have been true if the lookouts knew where to look, since binoculars only zoom in, so you have to already be looking at the thing. A searchlight would have helped, but it'd also have killed their nightvision. So about 50/50 on that.
Finally, there's the damage. The collision resulted in a series of long breeches in the hull, with the fatal one being a slash that just barely breeched a fifth compartment. Hull plating also came loose from their rivets in places because of the force of the collision, and it was enough. There was no way the crew was going to seal the breeches with so much water coming in, nor could the pumps keep up with it. It was such an overwhelming amount, it was quickly coming down on the heads of those down in the boiler rooms because the water filled up the previous compartment and came in over the watertight bulkheads, which were not high enough to be watertight in reality. The reason for their lowering was basically the same as the reason for reducing the number of lifeboats aboard: Make the ship more open and less of a maze.
Speaking of lifeboats, back then they were seen as a way to ferry passengers to a rescue ship already waiting on-scene. The number of people who regularly died trying to evacuate in storms out of a lack of choice meant passengers would rather stay on the ship. Lifeboats today are very different, and are designed to maximize survivability. They're usually covered, won't fall apart, overturn, or catch on the hull.
Also, anyone who thinks _Titanic_ is bad should look into _Empress of Ireland_ , and for casualty count, the _MV Dona Paz_ 's collision with the _MV Vector_ . For corruption and incompetence, there is _MV Sewol_ .
@@AlmightySmorg They would disobey their captain much earlier and even that, whoever is Helmsman probably have more experiences than a cleaner
Im not normally in a position to watch streams but i love your videos and will continue to support how i can.
Fun Fact: Carnival Corporation owns Cunard Lines. Cunard was White Star's principle competition in Britain. The government made them merge after the First World War because neither was doing particularly well. Someone determined that control would be determined by hull tonnage. Since White Star had lost _Titanic_ (iceberg), _Britannic_ (struck a mine), and recently to then _Olympic_ (scrapped beside Cunard's own _Mauretania_ ), they had a lot less hull than Cunard. The superliner J. Bruce Ismay had started to have built before his death, _Oceanic III_ , got scrapped with its parts being used for the mid-scale MV Georgic instead. _Georgic_ and MV Britannic were the last ships built for White Star. Within a few years of the White Star-Cunard merger, 'White Star' was dropped from the name. Instead of _Oceanic III_ , Cunard had their own superliner built, _RMS Queen Mary_ , which currently serves as a hotel. While ocean liners have almost always served double duty and done cruises on their off-season, cruise ships are built to carry as many people at once as possible, not to forge difficult Atlantic weather. They are therefore given permission to deviate from their course without having to ask for permission to avoid rough weather and storms, only having to ask if the course change is very significant. Ocean liners are quite literally built differently, with thicker steel and longer hulls to deal with fiercer water. The only ocean liner which serves the traditional Southampton - New York transatlantic route today is _RMS Queen Mary 2_ . _QM2_ is operated by Cunard Line. Cunard is owned by Carnival Corp. Carnival also owns Costa Concierge. This makes _QM2_ and _Costa Concordia_ cousins, although distantly. _QM2_ is fortunately operated according to far stricter standards, otherwise she'd never have made it to be 20 years old.
I’ve been sick for a while now, so thank you for uploading! Really helped me feeling better
Concordia (290m long, 36m wide, 3700 passengers) was actually not even close to the largest size many cruise ships are, believe it or not. For example, the largest cruise ship today is Icon Of The Seas. That behemoth is a whopping 364 meters long, 48 meters wide, holds 7600 passengers, has 20 decks (floors), has a full size water park with seven pools and six slides, 40 restaurants and pubs plus night clubs, shopping streets, spas and much more. Cost €1.86 Billion to build. All for a floating amusement park/holiday resort. Pretty nuts when you think about it.
It was one of the largest at the time and it was the largest in the Mediterranean
@@sisi4508 I'm not gonna be that dude and argue for no reason but I am quite a ship lover so I feel my need to argue here. Concordia was part of the Concordia-class ships (fitting name) made in Italy and while she was the largest made in Italy at the time, globally the class could not compete with the biggest.
When she was launched in 2005 she was already smaller than all Voyager class ships. Voyager Of The Seas (1999), Explorer Of The Seas (2000), Adventure Of The Seas (2001), Navigator of the Seas (2002) and Mariner Of The Seas (2003) were all a minimum of 300 meters, wider and heavier than Concordia (first one planned and started nearly a decade before she was built). And those were just a few examples. Many cruise ships outmatched Concordia when she was built. Her purpose wasn't being the largest, it was luxury and the area she cruised in.
Didn't _Icon_ catch fire recently? Cruise ships can't catch a break.
Congrats on the 7k! I'm glad to hear that you are on the upswing healthwise.
33 unintentional bodies. if it had been murder it would be life in prison. he was not acting out of malice. but out of stupidity.
There’s a good documentary on UA-cam about this that uses the passengers video footage during the event to recreate the whole thing. Plus that coast guard captain is awesome!
58:50 european courts tend to be quite merciful.
I think we all heard about Braevik geting a f*cking gamingconsole in his jail.
That's just Norway. Probably could also happen in Sweden, Finland and Iceland too
3:31 No, not really. I mean, yeah, balance isn't something you can just _ignore,_ but it's not particularly hard to do, either. Even for a ship that size.
6;35 Unless there's an actual, major storm going on right at that moment, no, it's not a problem.
10:30 LOL I love how you had to qualify that with "...legally".
Loved the reaction!
A UA-cam classic
Love your videos they make my day better and your calming voice
10:00 It’s not uncommon to have inexperienced sailors on the helm. Their job is execute orders from the officer in charge. It IS importantly that those sales be able to understand the orders, which was the problem
The frog infection has released and gone from her mind once again
IH’s vid on the Costa Concordia allision (yeah, that’s the right word for it; collisions involve more than one moving object) makes me interested in what he might do for a video about the sinking of the ferry Estonia
It took the captain nearly an hour to declare distress. That's insane to me. I can understand that initial urge to try and hide the problem, but I would very quickly be overtaken by the fear that things will be much worse for me if I don't do my due diligence and get all the help I need pronto. Like, it's not just the passengers. You're hurting yourself, too.
10:00 To be fair, helmsmen can one of the lowest ranking positions on any ship with a traditional navel crew. Sure, you need to be able to know how to actually steer and how to read heading, but beyond that it's literally just following the conning officer's (person in charge of the bridge; it can be the Captain, but more often than not it's delegated to someone else) directions on where to point the ship. The helmsman doesn't even control speed, he relays that order to someone else.
An important thing is that there should be a clear and distinct change of command when switching officers, and only the conning officer is able to order a change in directions. Even if the Captain is on the bridge, if he hasn't formally taken the conn, only the orders of the conning officer are to be followed. This is to avoid confusing the crew on who's orders are to be followed if multiple people are giving conflicting orders.
The Q&A video is pretty good too.
27:55 If I was in this situation of being on a literal sinking ship and the captain told me to stay on the damn boat I would be convinced that he or she is a psychopath
I can recommend Historian`s Fancy cycle he does now, area 51, 4-chan and He Will Not Divide Us
I don’t have memory issues for example due to my stress and depression accidentally put milk into the pantry instead of the fridge. I keep forgetting where I’m going. I keep forgetting the most basic shit. I forgot where I left my phone like two minutes ago and just found it.
The thing about this story in particular that I personally believe doesn't get talked about enough is the accountability of all the other people on the bridge that day. Yes the Captain is a scumbag for what he did after the crash but before the crash multiple factors were at play that lead to the crash and not all of them were caused by the Captain. For example it was the 3rd Officer's job to keep the Captain informed of their current position every time he gives out a new directional order. In other words it was the 3rd Officer's job to keep the Captain informed.
And personally I'd also argue that the Helmsman was more responsible for the actual crash since it was his last minute mistake that made sure the ship would crash. From what IH said it seems like if it wasn't for that mistake they COULD have avoided the crash. But again this is all before the crash, AFTER the crash though yeah the Captain deserves all the hate he gets.
Yes though to be fair the Helmsman seems like he shouldn't have been in that position at all due to his lacking language skills to communicate and his general lack of qualifications other than being cheap. So I also think it is a bit on Costa Crociere and their hiring/training practices and it seems like it was a pretty huge issue with almost everyone on the bridge seemingly making bad decisions and not properly following procedures
The problem was complacency to procedures and then some before the crash, and just being an awful person and then some after the crash.
If you haven't already and want to check out more from Internet Historian, (and as long as you're not _too_ claustrophobic lol) I can't recommend his video "Man in Cave (Reupload)" enough! It's a longer video but the story itself is incredible and the production value behind it is amazing.
The issue with that video is that it's plagiarising an article.
@@kingofflames738 It's such a shame IH didn't just ask for permission to turn the article into a video or worked out some kind of deal with the original author. Not like the video was devoid of effort and I likely never would have known about that story if it weren't for IH.
FFS people, he already worked things out with the original author and the reupload is a seriously changed video that cannot even be compared to plagiarism. Do your own research, seriously.
@@niravathu7353 from what I found he lied about reconciling with the original creator of the article. IH never even contacted him afterwards when the article creator was asked.
@@kingofflames738The original creator doesn’t matter in this regard. They don’t own it, the site they published it from does. The original creator has no say in it, hence there is no reason to ask them.
And because Murphy and Irony are sadists, Costa Crociere is owned by the same group that also now owns White Star Lines (aka the owner of the Titanic).
05:48 Thing is (it has been discussed in other channels, including one owned by a sailor), accidents like the one Schettino had pre-Concordia's sinking were normal and accepted for cruiser ships' captains.
Great reaction! Thanks!🙏🏻
Great reaction! Listened to it whilst working on a cruise ship :)
as a passanger on the concordia the trip before it sank. here is some missing information.
there were:
-no childrens lifevests so children wouldve had to do there best with lifejackets that were several sizes too big to actually do anything properly.
-not enough escape boats for the amount of people on it, if it had sunk further out in the ocean they would have barely fit anyone on the rafts. The reason for this is the architect didn't like how the required amount of life boats looked
- atrocious level of effort put into any safety instructions, you'd have been better off not paying attention to the "drills"
That second one also applied to the Titanic sinking (20 lifeboats was slightly more than minimally required by British Maritime Law).
I can watch multiple reaction of IH videos and would never get bored. Another good CC to react is Michael reeves they upload once a year but its a banger everytime
To answer your question about open drinks in ship, it wouldn’t be a problem for the most part. A ship as large as the Concordia, you wouldn’t feel the waves unless you caught in a storm, which they actively avoid.
There's some pretty haunting pictures of a pitcher and glass standing right where a passenger left them in the forward section of the _Titanic_ wreck. That's how stable she was, and the Olympic-class would be considered small, or medium-scale at best today.
Pine, I'll give you a tip, read the caption because historian usually explain a little more when you see them or say something that needs more details.
Also, you should see the man in a cave by internet historian its a pretty good video.
My aunt was on the ship and her cabin and was on the side of it when it submerged, and she distinctly recalled the Captain at the time was with his "girlfriend" and having dinner she said it was well known amongst a lot of the passengers that he was "showing off" to her during the cruise they never expected him to carry out such a dangerous action, but he did she said he struck her as wholly irresponsible and should not have been in command of said ship at the time.
The man was a coward he skipped off the ship as soon as it became clear just how serious this incident was, my Aunt said she was so thankful it was near to land i.e. the small island that a great many of the passengers either got rescued to or in some cases swarm and were picked up either way the Captain was incompetent and in this case extremely dangerous blame for what happened was on him, yet he tried to deflect it and pin it to others. The list goes on and on.
Personally, it was entirely preventable, but it still happened and sadly people lost lives all because of the vanity and the need to show off one man.
Note for context watched a lot of videos on this some of what I said may not be factually correct I am aware of this but the fact that someone in my own family was put at risk, but the idiocy of a few people makes me rightly fully bloody angry over it so please excuse any errors I may have made.
LET THE INTERNET HISTORIAN REACTION ARC BEGIN!
Can't wait for reactions to:
business is professional
The Varus & the varus strakes buck (oh wait i see The Varus in recommendations lol)
The area between 50 and 52
the fall of 76
man in cave
the failure of fyre festival
rainfurrest
engoodening of no man's sky
The Costa company hired Jacob "at a rock bottom price" as IH said, despite the them knowing he had no prior experience with steering a ship nor does he speak English or Italian. If anything, it's the company's fault for hiring him.
A PineBaby video a day keep the sadness away :)
I just found this channel and I got to about 8 mins in, what exactly has this girl been fighting through? Like my god, it sounds awful wild and I hope she's still doing better.
"Ive never driven a day in my life, legally"
LEGALLY?😂😅
When I took driver's education while visiting my dad in Illinois, two sisters in my class drove to class every day. Both were still in high school and obviously neither of them had their learner's permit yet.
😂
another vtuber reaction classic
gg pinebaby
Well I learned something about the book he published The translation is The Truth Submerged in where characterized himself as a hero. The book is controversially dedicated to the victims of the catastrophe. Of course many in the media criticized the book especially how especially tried to profit of the disaster and paint himself in a better light.
06:18 Caught me! 02:24 in the morning here as well xD
I knew a swedish artist Hugh Hammarstrom who did that, living on a cruise ship. Cruise ships are actually rarely ever at capacity, *but obviously empty cruise ships look bad!* So the more cruises you book on the same ship, the cheaper it gets. It even falls during housing crises, because people get antsy about money and luxury expenses. Remember all the technical errors happening with Concordia. This is common on older ships once they are paid for. "If it floats, it's good enough!" Cheap labour and "just enough" maintenance allows them to offer cheap packages. It is actually most expensive to take just *ONE* cruise with no followup plan, then you are getting charged full price for everything. It is better to figure out a schedule and "make it a commitment." Similarly longer cruises are less expensive by day than shorter. A 30 day route costs a third of a 7 day trip like Concordia.
*The sole exception to how the industry works?* Disney. _Because Disney supports top of the line maintenance with its parks!_
If I remember correctly, half of the people that died in the ship were found tarpped in the elevators.
'Trapped,' but yes. Partly because the crew told them everything was fine. If they'd known the ship lost main power, they'd never have risked the elevators.
@@BNuts Elevators are sketchy under the best of conditions. On a ship where there was just a loud crashing sound, power outage and listing? Nah, ill take the stairs.
7:12 bigger the boat, the less liquids move around, this is way drink and the pool you'll be on a boat with no problem.
Speed boats are the worst to have any liquids on them.
10:34 he was cheap to hire, that's way he's driving.
Why is he steering the ship? Because it's cheaper than hiring someone trained to do it (and paying them properly.)
And that language barrier? SailorVince, a real navigation officer, watched this video and mentioned an incident he was involved in IIRC of where two ships owned by the same company colliding into one another because the crews could not properly communicate due to language barriers.
I think this or the varus is my favorite internet historian videos.
They were living their best lifes! 👀
Yeah, it's tragic how the incompetence of the crew on the bridge led to this.
Id love to see you do some reactions to The Fat Electricion. . i think you wold like the sargent reckless one most but the way he delivers his storys are funny but serious and he picks some good historical events like old 666 and the burbary wars why the us navy was formed
Ship Capsizing/Sinking are a rabbit hole-a great one at that. Pardon the pun, but Titanic’s literally the tip of the Iceberg.
I wish your memory well.
Good video.
Schettino does deserve the shit he got for his actions after the sinking, but compared to other Captains who went AWOL as soon as something went wrong to the point it’d sink/capsize, he’s not the worst.
No idea that Pine had elf ears
never went on a cruise ship but had to use a ship to go to corsica and it's a pleasant experience I would recommend if you can. Even if it's for a short trip like a few hours
she should watch the video about the same thing on his other channel. he explains a lot of things there. like the fact that the captain was not THAT bad. or at least not as bad as what he made him in the video. it was not just his fault and there was multiple events that seemed like his fault but that were completly out of his controle. the police and other officers on the boat also LIED about some facts that were recorded but ignored my the media and the justice.
Nice reaction. If you are reacting to more of IH, I highly recommend watching "Man in Cave". I think, it's one of his best videos.
If u look at the weight distribution and the center of mass then yes there is a balancing issue becouse the ships are so tall and top heavy. But ofc they have added ways of stabilizing the ships below the water line but yeah the basic design of most cruise ships are not stable becouse of the huge amount of weight so far above the waterline.
What he said about route deviation isent entierly true. I´m sure companys put some pressure on captains to get there as fast as possable but regardless the situation a Captain always have the last say and can overule anything for any reson. This is for safety reson so if a storm moves in or any other reson the captain thinks its not safe he can always change the route however he wish regardless how mutch longer the route is gonna be.
This was my first video of yours, you seem so cool!!! Subscribed
23:05 look up Sinking of the Concordia caught on camera by Matt Antcliff, its such a massive comedy of errors, *YES IT WAS THAT SONG* 😅 bit hard to hear with all the panic going on, guy stitched together a "movie" utilising all the found footage from cell cameras.
Also the common standard is only 2 breaches because these extend across the *entire* ship. That's a lot of water weight to carry! Look how wide it is!
Warships by comparison are very narrow, so they can take up to 6. Also breach rating is towards just one side. If you have breaches on either end, that will make it _slighty less bad_ as the weight is evened out. So 3/5/7 instead of 2/4/6
Not entirely related, but if you like ships and soothing voices there's The Mighty Jingles. Even though I stopped playing WoW years ago I still watch his videos before going to sleep, he's like the David Attenborough of clan ship battles 😂
I saw Costa Cruises ads few months ago. You'd think they'd bother to change the name
White star line is still around
Cruise ships are BIG. Like crazy big. They're still not nearly as big as aircraft carriers though, those things are just ludicrous.
The bigger a ship is, the less sway you're going to feel, so putting things on shelves and even having things like the magician's magic box which is gonna be on WHEELS, is totally fine. Because as far as everything on the ship is concerned, the ship isn't swaying at all. Now on a smaller ship, that's a totally different story. So like old wooden ships? Yeah those are not wheel friendly.
We've gotten EXTREMELY good at building ships, so cruise ships are actually pretty safe. So long as nobody's doing something stupid with them that is. Yeah after watching this video especially, I don't think anyone will judge you for keeping your distance from cruise ships.
Like if you get the chance to just like, SEE one up close, you should still do it though. They're simply marvels of engineering.
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Hey, if you're enjoying getting upset about disasters, could I suggest a couple of other channels you might like? Neither would be great react content but they're still really worth checking out
The first is the Well There's Your Problem podcast, is an engineering disasters podcast with slides. They strike a good balance between funny and serious and provide a lot of detail and commentary on the situation. The hosts will be just as upset as you are when someone gets a lot of other people hurt.
The other is Brick Immortar. It's a lot more serious and professional and does a great job of instilling the cold dread of mistakes and failures compounding on eachother until someone gets hurt. These videos can be really heavy if that's what you're looking for
please do more IH. His videos are fantastic. Man In A Cave is an emotional roller coaster.
I still feel sad that a captain literally and legally has to go down with the ship. The fact that you can get sued for leaving a ship early is just bizarre to me. Though, of course, he deserved every other charge given to ‘em!
They don't have to literally go down with the ship, but as captain, they have to be in place to coordinate all evacuation operations as long as there are people to evacuate. That's part of their duties and responsibility as captain.
People stuck on the ship are still relying on them. They can't do much if they're miles away in a hotel on land.
You should react to the Q&A video about this.
Odd how many streamers who react to this don't seem to remember then event or even never heard of it, or not much at least. I always assumed that this was one of the biggest things that happend in the past 20 years but it seems it wasn't such a big deal in news everywhere, interesting.
Side note:Is it just me or does anyone else find it rather confusing that there are many people in the comments complaining about her talking alot? This is a reaction, adding to the video by talking is the point of a reaction.
I like how u were afraid to say “bat shiet crazy” but drop f bombs a lot later 😂
youtube are more likely to hit the video if something non pg is said in the beginning of the video then later in the video
*37:30 ish speaking the truth loot boxes were better than what we get today and to add on Overwatch 1 better than Overwatch 2 we need to go back in time to when things were better.
So sadly there is a little bit of misinformation going on here to be dramatic. The second "crash" was nothing more than one of the ramps hitting the side wall. Something that happens a lot with ships on the ocean. Second while the captain was in the security field at first it was only because he was waiting to get his foot in the door for a captains role to open. He was still undergoing captains training the entire time.
Internet Historian made a Q&A video about this which I say is worth watching for more accuracy. After looking at both and reading up on the events it is my opinion the crash was not the captains fault at all. The helmsman was entirely to blame for not steering correctly and the company was at fault for hiring the helmsman. Everything AFTER the crash was entirely the captains fault and he is a coward because of it.
He did add text that said he didn't find any photos from the incident so he added a pic from a movie. People just don't read that text even though it's in center of the screen
@@frozencrow8735 this is true, but also not really what I was trying to say. He couldn't find any photos though because the "crash" was so small and didn't really do anything to the ship. It got pushed in the wind and broke a ramp.
The captain is the one who chose to do the sail by salute and the company should have never hired the helmsman to begin with. Being bad at your job shouldnt be a crime.
@@nathanpapp432 The captain was expected to do the sail by. It practically became an advertised feature on a cruise ship before all this happened. I wouldn't be surprised if the company would berate him if he decided against it.
If the helmsman followed the orders correctly then none of this would have happened. But don't get me wrong as everything the captain did after the crash was cowardly and despicable. He deserved a long time in jail for the aftermath.
@@YukoValis So what if he was expected to do it? It was risky and dangerous. If an employee is incapable of doing a job well then the fault is with the entity who hired them. The company, capitan and 3rd officer (who wasnt doing her job AT ALL) are the most at fault.
Not to defend Schettino because it was his negligence that put the ship in peril in the first place but to be fair to him he did give all the correct orders to avoid the rocks, it’s just that the inexperienced helmsman messed it up.
Like I said I’m not defending him, it’s his fault they’re in that situation but he did give all the correct orders to get out of it.
We should recreate this
27:55 What do you mean stay
You should deffinatly check out the QnA video he eventually did on this topic
Man in cave by internet historian is great
More internet historian lmao
It took him a year or two
What happened to her memory?
I have issues with remembering some daily things, but It's gotten alot better with fixing my diet/taking b12 supplements.
@@PineBaby
Oh, if you are getting better then it's cool. Keep it up Miss.Pine.
Yeah I also saddened how bad The Sims 4 turn out to be even to this day. Except for some modders and cc outfits/items that EA can't even scratch what they made. The sims nowadays is showcasing where is EA political views nowadays than actually add anything really new.
And Jacob Rusli bin get back to Indonesia, perfect place to disappear lmao. His own country and how bad Indonesia organize who exactly in their country especially for regular civilian. He pretty much escaping the jailtime forever.
its always fun watching reactions to this absolute shitshow
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Hey pinebaby 6:34
+1 subscriber. hi
you sure yap a lot
You should react to vagrant holiday's videos
I liked InternetHistorian's "Man in Cave" movie. HOWEVER the original version was taken down after it was found out the script was plagiarized from an online news article. The reuploaded version kept most things the same but changed some narration and kinda made it not feel as impactful. Still worth watching the reupload if available right now.
That's so incredibly stupid btw, the video itself was still extremely good and high effort, he could have just ASKED them ffs
Aliciaxdeath and Lilaofthewind have reacts to the original if you can't find it another way🏴🏴🏴