This weeks presentation demonstrates a very good point about genuine year model parts and specifications. All this proves a good point "Buyer Beware". Good show!!
Nice Kevin! Also important to note are the "Day 2" cars where small mods were made right after delivery for performance reasons but still leaving a largely intact original specimen. As always, love the vids! :)
Sorry, I get that you don’t want something that was a six cylinder turned into an 8, and that it really is an xyz rare model, but for parts like hoses and plug wires on a 60 year car to never have been replaced (or even the alternator or water pump?). Come on. You mean that car has never had a tune up? Because replacing plug wires is almost standard procedure for tuneups back then. New cap, new rotor, plugs and wires. I worked for a NAPA and that was a fairly standard order you would get 2-3 times a day. Alternators as well, since it was very rare that a mechanic would go through all the trouble to rebuild an alternator themselves when they can get a remanufactured one that is the correct part and is equivalent in every way, with a warranty. This parts used the old casings/cores and were either rebuilt or completely remanufactured to return it to factory specs. Engine, transmission, body, yes those should be correct, but all wearable parts? This is just designed to sell overpriced parts at inflated prices.
Back in the day some of the baddest street cars on the road were modified base cars that were upgraded appearance and performance wise, back then having a numbers matching muscle cars was no big deal having a modified street car that looked and ran good was the main goal !
I know and understand what you're saying Kevin in relation to matching part numbers to the car, but why would a 1969 car for example, have original hoses, belts, alternator and starter? The only way would be if the car had under say....50K original miles or so. Heck, what are you gonna say that because you changed the oil, or the wiper blades it's not original? I guess one could say that there are variable grades of original.
The purists what what the purists want. Always seemed silly to me - seals, fluid, etc have a useful life, beyond which you relegate these cars to non-functional show pieces. Sure it is nice to have a pure original example for examination, but the number of people "up-selling" their cars as number matching is a bit ridiculous. My "numbers matching" 69 firebird has the original block in storage and original TH400 installed, but when I got it, as with many a 40+ year old car - it was far from original. But the price was right for what it was so I got it - fully planning to gut out a lot of the past the use by date stuff. Purists are a bit crazy... I mean 60's and early 70's tires were not just inferior to today's, they are now down right dangerous to even roll - but you will get a premium at auction for those tires... go figure.
Thanks for another great and informative video Kevin, and I love the car. Just a matter of opinion, but I like those hood "injection stacks". When I was a teenager with a paper route, one of my customers had a blue '69 SS 396 he drag raced. It had those, so it is a great memory for me to see that feature on a Camaro. Further to the subject matter, this information is a good starting point if you are considering a purchase on a high dollar car. I think it would still be advisable to have it reviewed by an expert who can back up it's authenticity and provenance with a written certificate, e.g. Jerry MacNeish, Kevin Marti, or Galan Govier.
Appears to have a '72 quadrajet on it. Beautiful car, there used to be a '69 Z28 painted that color where I grew up absolutely gorgeous. Great video as always.
Kevin do you know what year Chevrolet started doing build sheets and putting them with the car? I have always wondered what year they started doing that.
Numbers matching is an over rated game. ANY car could have been collectable. Serious collectors are a dying breed in this genre. Resto mods are better and WAY more affordable
I'd be perfectly fine with a non numbers matching car. 100% correct numbers matching cars are way out of my league financially, so the next best thing is to build one yourself, or buy one for much less $$$. Then I wouldn't be afraid to drive it like I stole it.
So when I swapped out the factory clock for a factory tachometer in my GS 455 did I ruin the value of my car? I also replaced the water pump. What a fucking fool I was.
This weeks presentation demonstrates a very good point about genuine year model parts and specifications. All this proves a good point "Buyer Beware". Good show!!
I've known this for a while,however I truly wish I would have had this information in the 70s and 80s.Great video.
Nice Kevin!
Also important to note are the "Day 2" cars where small mods were made right after delivery for performance reasons but still leaving a largely intact original specimen.
As always, love the vids! :)
I love this show.. very educational and good narrator.. keep it up..!!
Sorry, I get that you don’t want something that was a six cylinder turned into an 8, and that it really is an xyz rare model, but for parts like hoses and plug wires on a 60 year car to never have been replaced (or even the alternator or water pump?). Come on. You mean that car has never had a tune up? Because replacing plug wires is almost standard procedure for tuneups back then. New cap, new rotor, plugs and wires. I worked for a NAPA and that was a fairly standard order you would get 2-3 times a day. Alternators as well, since it was very rare that a mechanic would go through all the trouble to rebuild an alternator themselves when they can get a remanufactured one that is the correct part and is equivalent in every way, with a warranty. This parts used the old casings/cores and were either rebuilt or completely remanufactured to return it to factory specs. Engine, transmission, body, yes those should be correct, but all wearable parts? This is just designed to sell overpriced parts at inflated prices.
Green cars were so popular from the late 60s - mid-70s. Mind you, people who did not like green generally had 15 other colors to pick.
Now it's white, black or silver. I hope we see people buy cars again in over the top colours as well I've always liked green as a car color
Green is my favorite color in all Musclecars, red is my least favorite....I will never own a red car again
Good info.....really beautiful color. I liked that color the first time that I saw it.......they didn't paint many that color but it was my fave.
I love classic muscle cars
They will never get halfway with the modern ones..
Thanks, Kevin! Good info.
A build sheet (if you can find one) is also a very important piece of documentation.
Back in the day some of the baddest street cars on the road were modified base cars that were upgraded appearance and performance wise, back then having a numbers matching muscle cars was no big deal having a modified street car that looked and ran good was the main goal !
Frost green and fathom green are 1969's best colors...green is always best on a musclecar in my book.
Chicken legs.....just busting kevin...i always enjoy these vids...thank you
GM was pretty sly on hiding VIN numbers in hard-to-get-to places on their cars.
I know and understand what you're saying Kevin in relation to matching part numbers to the car, but why would a 1969 car for example, have original hoses, belts, alternator and starter? The only way would be if the car had under say....50K original miles or so. Heck, what are you gonna say that because you changed the oil, or the wiper blades it's not original? I guess one could say that there are variable grades of original.
The purists what what the purists want. Always seemed silly to me - seals, fluid, etc have a useful life, beyond which you relegate these cars to non-functional show pieces. Sure it is nice to have a pure original example for examination, but the number of people "up-selling" their cars as number matching is a bit ridiculous. My "numbers matching" 69 firebird has the original block in storage and original TH400 installed, but when I got it, as with many a 40+ year old car - it was far from original. But the price was right for what it was so I got it - fully planning to gut out a lot of the past the use by date stuff.
Purists are a bit crazy... I mean 60's and early 70's tires were not just inferior to today's, they are now down right dangerous to even roll - but you will get a premium at auction for those tires... go figure.
Very informative...thank you.
Thought those fake hood vents looked ridiculous when they first appeared, haven't changed my opinion since. Other than that, sweet ride!
That Camaro looks good in that color. My Dad has a ‘69 Buick LeSabre that looked like the same color. 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Thanks for another great and informative video Kevin, and I love the car.
Just a matter of opinion, but I like those hood "injection stacks". When I was a teenager with a paper route, one of my customers had a blue '69 SS 396 he drag raced. It had those, so it is a great memory for me to see that feature on a Camaro.
Further to the subject matter, this information is a good starting point if you are considering a purchase on a high dollar car. I think it would still be advisable to have it reviewed by an expert who can back up it's authenticity and provenance with a written certificate, e.g. Jerry MacNeish, Kevin Marti, or Galan Govier.
Appears to have a '72 quadrajet on it. Beautiful car, there used to be a '69 Z28 painted that color where I grew up absolutely gorgeous. Great video as always.
I have a base model 1969 charger with a 1973 440 under the hood..... couldn't care less.
Kevin do you know what year Chevrolet started doing build sheets and putting them with the car? I have always wondered what year they started doing that.
Kevin when you get old do matching numbers really matter?
I disagree about plug wires and alternators,, they need to be repaced and shouldn't count against true authentic. Same with tires? But love the show.
Numbers matching is an over rated game. ANY car could have been collectable.
Serious collectors are a dying breed in this genre. Resto mods are better and WAY more affordable
Stops those hellbent on providing 'scappers' as genuine cars.
I'd be perfectly fine with a non numbers matching car. 100% correct numbers matching cars are way out of my league financially, so the next best thing is to build one yourself, or buy one for much less $$$. Then I wouldn't be afraid to drive it like I stole it.
Yeah I bought a 1970 cobra torino and it turned out to be a 73 Chevelle after we go to looking at it. 😂
Great show but I have a Banty rooster that would fight you for those legs!
So when I swapped out the factory clock for a factory tachometer in my GS 455 did I ruin the value of my car? I also replaced the water pump. What a fucking fool I was.
Great
is a 67 galaxie LTD two door fast back 390 with air air considered a muscle car i think yes
Definitely!
I guess I'm new school classic car guy. I prefer classic car with modern drivetrain and suspension. Best of both worlds old and new tech.
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