Just as a note, Klothys's trigger was being resolved at the wrong time. It triggers at the beginning of the first main phase, not the beginning of the draw phase.
@@MTGMuddstah as a longtime Klothys player, I’m still surprised that it isn’t at the upkeep. It makes more sense. Valid mistake. So happy to see this deck played (let alone do well) it’s my favorite brew. Can’t wait to see the deck list and compare notes.
I assume they made it a precombat main phase trigger to avoid adding the extra words needed to let you keep the mana through steps and phases that turn.
I LOVE Anje. She's my favorite deck I have. Gets shut down hard if you get any table hate and can take a little bit to get going sometimes but when it goes it goes hard.
That was a wild game. Sorry you got Man screwed. That turn two top card was rough. It was a fun, albeit short, game to watch though. Great channel. I love seeing fellow Canadians!
Your Mana Drain was clutch! Not just the WoG. I really like Klothys as groupslug, though I felt the Dictate of the Twin Gods was a timing misplay. Didn't really matter in the end.
It didn't end up mattering, but when Torbrann and the Eidolon hit the last turn, Maximus would've gotten to decide how the 2 replacement effects affected Torbrann's damage, so they could've doubled then added 2 to only take 10 from combat. They still ended up dead to the Valakut, but it could've mattered otherwise.
It's really, really hard to win if you don't run any counter magic playing Yuriko. It's a must because you're gonna get targeted. You can still be budget and run Arcane Denial, Counterspell, Negate, Delay, Dispel, An Offer You Can't Refuse, Foil, Familiar's Ruse or any of the counter spells that care about your stuff being targeted.
You can still be budget and play a full cEDH Yuriko Farm deck. Legit a 100-150 gets you a Yuriko deck with everything you need to crush a casual table into the ground with ad naus/ consul/thoracle combos.
Played her a while ago while i was on the brink of tearing her down and use the madness cards for Varina. Glad I didn't go through with tearing it down. It was a plast to play that deck again.
8:20 Am I missing something here? If he ends up with 7 total Mountains in play at the end of turn, meaning at most he should get 2 Valakut triggers, no?
Scapeshift is a thing with Valakut. Since all the lands entered at the same time they all saw that there were at least 5 others so they all triggered Valakut.
Commander Tax cares about the number of times the commander has been *cast* from the command zone not the number of times it's left the CZ. Activating Ninjutsu isn't casting it.
I'm a little annoyed about Kevin directing the Valakut triggers at the players that are low from Yuriko, when the main threat player is Yuriko. Finishing off people that have barely been able to play is a feel bad. That being said, Kevin was able to turn it into a win and turn off Yuriko being able to atrack into open boards, so it was probably the correct play. Summarized? Yuriko is never fun to see.
First of all, why play with the food and waist everyones time? Second anje is a pretty combo heavy deck (even if you put the combos out that deck explodes) at least that one had to go. I mean i get what your saying but thats not the kind of casual game, i would even dare to say that three of the decks (jodah normally is there too) were at least higher power
Regarding Yuriko, if she shows up, just bring out Light-Paws. lol. My buddy's 800+ dollar Cedh Yuriko deck has not beat my budget 140 ish dollar Light-Paws deck even once yet. ;-) If they wanna be nasty, just be nasty back. Ha ha! There's always a solution.
This inter action is really funny for damage Ok so i run a unique kenrith deck my main set up is Vorenclex monstous raider, sparkdoubler" targeting vorenclex", elish norn mother of machines, doubling season, panharmonicon and the enchantment "all will be one" then ugin spirit dragon or nicol bolas. So it triggers like this I play ugin with 7 loyalty vorenclex trigger elishnorn sees it the panharmonicon sees it =56loyalry the spark double copy of vorenclecks trigger mom and pan both see it = 448 loyalty the doublingseason triggers mom and pan see it 3,584 loyalty thats how you get triggers fron pan and elish norn with planeswalkers
I absolutely despise Yuriko as a commander. Makes games so unfun for everyone IMO. And Max didn't even have a fast Yuriko start either. There are many 1 drop creatures which are also Ninjas, which boosts up the damage output even further. Standard Yuriko game: play unblockable / flying creature on 1, ninjutsu on 2 (maybee even play a Ornithopter), get 1-2 triggers every turn and deal around 10dmg everytime. Then get focused out by 3 players and one of them holding back something to finish off the other two with one blow. Yay. And as Yuriko you not only have crazy damage, you also have a insane draw engine from turn 2 on. And your commander can't really be targeted down because you basically have no commander tax and can replay her even in the same attack phase she was destroyed..
Man, as a anje player myself her playstyle is so weird to build and find the right table/power level. If you go discard focused (not only self discard), apart from the fact that there are others more aligned commanders for that tactic, you have to give up on some madness cards to slot discard spells, hence loosing big draw turns with her ability. If you go full on her draw capability, WGD combo is the way, pack you deck with all madness cards and the combo pieces and hope the glass cannon works. Non combo madness focus feels clunky cause either going spells or vampire tribal (with falkenrath gorger), cause again, you add vampires and remove madness cards. Combo is op for casual tables (and not that strong vs CEDH/powerfull decks), non combo builds just feel suuuper slow and non synergistic at times. Am I crazy or just a shitty deck builder?
I'm no pro, but I run Anje as my primary deck, and I think you hit the nail on the head. Having WGD feels way too OP for casual plays with friends who don't have similar win conditions/power levels but feels very underpowered if you aren't comboing hard. You can get a lot of draw power, but I'm not a good enough player to really capitalize on that myself. Still really fun to play as Madness is my favorite mechanic.
That’s what happens when you build Yuriko with no win conditions 🤷♂️ This is literally the fairest she can be built, no extra turns, no ad naus, no thassa’s oracle/demonic consultation. Barely any counter spells to maintain tempo.
i'm sorry but where's the dance macabra? that's just a staple for the channel. please bring it back
Just as a note, Klothys's trigger was being resolved at the wrong time. It triggers at the beginning of the first main phase, not the beginning of the draw phase.
Go easy on him, it's own his COMMANDER after all 🤣
You are correct, but it was late and it wasn't a
may ability, so we tried to make sure it at least happened instead of missing it.
@@MTGMuddstah as a longtime Klothys player, I’m still surprised that it isn’t at the upkeep. It makes more sense. Valid mistake. So happy to see this deck played (let alone do well) it’s my favorite brew. Can’t wait to see the deck list and compare notes.
I assume they made it a precombat main phase trigger to avoid adding the extra words needed to let you keep the mana through steps and phases that turn.
Wow. Really well played by Kevin. Was questioning him taking out Micah and you but he was able to just control things from there.
The lack of music in this one made a huge difference 😢
Would love to see this Klothys decklist ! Awesome game
The first deck I built myself a few years ago was a Klothys Enchantment Deck. Happy to see another one in the wild finally. VIN-DI-CA-TIOOOON!
Yuriko: 69 damage by turn 3 with a casual build. Hooray!
yea thats kind of what happens when you put a bunch of high cost cards in your deck to flip
Literally a slot machine.
71 I think
Yep, that's why she's kill on sight. Yuriko player gets removed first.
@@ToHitACZero and then you hand the game over to someone else because your tunneling on the smallest threat
Anje seems like lot of fun. Can't say the same for Yuriko
Yuriko is feast or famine. Either everyone is dead turn 4 or u can beaten out of the game. Anje is really fun tho I used to have a deck around her
I LOVE Anje. She's my favorite deck I have. Gets shut down hard if you get any table hate and can take a little bit to get going sometimes but when it goes it goes hard.
That Klothys was so good!
Nasty nasty Yuriko!!
That was a wild game. Sorry you got Man screwed. That turn two top card was rough.
It was a fun, albeit short, game to watch though. Great channel. I love seeing fellow Canadians!
Certified Yuriko moment. They never should have printed her dude.
where is my classical music
1:37 I love kevin's mountain
I looked @ the Cmdrs and said ooh, yuk, yikes, well if all of them are...ok lets see it, Thanks for the show.
Nice game, any chance on posting Klothy’s list?
Hey man! Andrew didn't post it, weird! Swagcrab on Moxfield, the deck is in there somewhere ;)
Thank you!
Imagine playing a 3 v 1 game because that’s a lot of damage
Can't they just Errata Commander Ninjutsu to still require paying commander tax? Seems like the best solution for everyone
Worth considering more ramp for Jodah? Three Visits, Farseek, Skyshroud claim etc
worth considering mulliganing.. half of the times Andrew has the coolest deck on the table (my opinion) but doesn't do anything because bad keeps
@@felixin02 +1000 on this comment
Your Mana Drain was clutch! Not just the WoG. I really like Klothys as groupslug, though I felt the Dictate of the Twin Gods was a timing misplay. Didn't really matter in the end.
It didn't end up mattering, but when Torbrann and the Eidolon hit the last turn, Maximus would've gotten to decide how the 2 replacement effects affected Torbrann's damage, so they could've doubled then added 2 to only take 10 from combat. They still ended up dead to the Valakut, but it could've mattered otherwise.
Did you try adding a fading effect on the opening hands? Was there a mistake made?
Kevin has a mountain felt so much like Charlie Brown’s ‘I got a rock!’
Once again Max makes a deck I want to play.
Lol anyone else hear "Max misplays a land" instead of "Maximus plays a land"?
It's really, really hard to win if you don't run any counter magic playing Yuriko. It's a must because you're gonna get targeted. You can still be budget and run Arcane Denial, Counterspell, Negate, Delay, Dispel, An Offer You Can't Refuse, Foil, Familiar's Ruse or any of the counter spells that care about your stuff being targeted.
Just don't play yuriko it's not a casual commander lol
You can still be budget and play a full cEDH Yuriko Farm deck. Legit a 100-150 gets you a Yuriko deck with everything you need to crush a casual table into the ground with ad naus/ consul/thoracle combos.
Klothys is blind, therefore the best way to ensure she hits her target is to hit everyone at the same time. 😂
Clever, haha! Let me steal that next Game!
sad that there is no klothys decklist in the description
Yuriko paints a target on your back like there's absolutely no tommorow.
That's because for your opponents, THERE IS NO TOMORROW.
I’m seeing this earlier than normal for me 😂
Good to see Anje doing her thing. Might rebuild mine, I miss churning through a pile of bad Madness cards.
Played her a while ago while i was on the brink of tearing her down and use the madness cards for Varina.
Glad I didn't go through with tearing it down. It was a plast to play that deck again.
Why do people hate playing against Yuriko?
Oh yeah....
It's funny how Kevin has Mudslide in his deck but still untaps his Klothys without paying the 2 generic required to untap it. 10:25
Can we have the decklist of klothys pls 😢
I think you're missing the background music
8:20 Am I missing something here? If he ends up with 7 total Mountains in play at the end of turn, meaning at most he should get 2 Valakut triggers, no?
Scapeshift is a thing with Valakut. Since all the lands entered at the same time they all saw that there were at least 5 others so they all triggered Valakut.
Forgive me, but at about 6:00 max casts yuriko from command zone for 3 mana, should it not have cost 5?
Commander Tax cares about the number of times the commander has been *cast* from the command zone not the number of times it's left the CZ. Activating Ninjutsu isn't casting it.
Force of Will in a 5 color deck. Interesting.
Is there a decklist for Klothys?
at 5:40 when he used wrath of god, would that not have wiped klothys too?
Klothys is indestructible even as a creature.
@@MTGMuddstah ty, i should fully read cards lol
Yuriko is like my least favorite commander of all time.
Zo-Zu moves up a notch! I'm winning!
One trigger turn 3 48 damage 😅
I'm a little annoyed about Kevin directing the Valakut triggers at the players that are low from Yuriko, when the main threat player is Yuriko. Finishing off people that have barely been able to play is a feel bad. That being said, Kevin was able to turn it into a win and turn off Yuriko being able to atrack into open boards, so it was probably the correct play. Summarized? Yuriko is never fun to see.
First of all, why play with the food and waist everyones time?
Second anje is a pretty combo heavy deck (even if you put the combos out that deck explodes) at least that one had to go.
I mean i get what your saying but thats not the kind of casual game, i would even dare to say that three of the decks (jodah normally is there too) were at least higher power
Oof. Max wishes he had the flex tape for the second half of the game!
Yesssss I'm so happy Yuriko didn't win
Regarding Yuriko, if she shows up, just bring out Light-Paws. lol. My buddy's 800+ dollar Cedh Yuriko deck has not beat my budget 140 ish dollar Light-Paws deck even once yet. ;-) If they wanna be nasty, just be nasty back. Ha ha! There's always a solution.
Kind of curious how Light-Paws is doing anything to stop a Yuriko Farm deck with access to $800 worth of fast mana?
Klothys list please. Also sorry bit this pot was really boring, besides Klothys.
This inter action is really funny for damage
Ok so i run a unique kenrith deck my main set up is
Vorenclex monstous raider, sparkdoubler" targeting vorenclex", elish norn mother of machines, doubling season, panharmonicon and the enchantment "all will be one" then ugin spirit dragon or nicol bolas. So it triggers like this
I play ugin with 7 loyalty vorenclex trigger elishnorn sees it the panharmonicon sees it =56loyalry the spark double copy of vorenclecks trigger mom and pan both see it = 448 loyalty the doublingseason triggers mom and pan see it 3,584 loyalty thats how you get triggers fron pan and elish norn with planeswalkers
Thats when all will be one triggers for over 3500 damage
I absolutely despise Yuriko as a commander. Makes games so unfun for everyone IMO.
And Max didn't even have a fast Yuriko start either. There are many 1 drop creatures which are also Ninjas, which boosts up the damage output even further.
Standard Yuriko game: play unblockable / flying creature on 1, ninjutsu on 2 (maybee even play a Ornithopter), get 1-2 triggers every turn and deal around 10dmg everytime.
Then get focused out by 3 players and one of them holding back something to finish off the other two with one blow. Yay.
And as Yuriko you not only have crazy damage, you also have a insane draw engine from turn 2 on. And your commander can't really be targeted down because you basically have no commander tax and can replay her even in the same attack phase she was destroyed..
Go Klothys!!!!🎉
I kept on hearin git as "Max misplays a land" at the start. I was like ??? how so??
my hate for yuriko grows with each passing day
Gotta love Yuriko, the strongest commander deck in the game with literally zero brain cells needed to build
Yuriko can go kick rocks.
How is Yuriko not banned… lol
Man, as a anje player myself her playstyle is so weird to build and find the right table/power level.
If you go discard focused (not only self discard), apart from the fact that there are others more aligned commanders for that tactic, you have to give up on some madness cards to slot discard spells, hence loosing big draw turns with her ability.
If you go full on her draw capability, WGD combo is the way, pack you deck with all madness cards and the combo pieces and hope the glass cannon works.
Non combo madness focus feels clunky cause either going spells or vampire tribal (with falkenrath gorger), cause again, you add vampires and remove madness cards.
Combo is op for casual tables (and not that strong vs CEDH/powerfull decks), non combo builds just feel suuuper slow and non synergistic at times.
Am I crazy or just a shitty deck builder?
I'm no pro, but I run Anje as my primary deck, and I think you hit the nail on the head. Having WGD feels way too OP for casual plays with friends who don't have similar win conditions/power levels but feels very underpowered if you aren't comboing hard. You can get a lot of draw power, but I'm not a good enough player to really capitalize on that myself. Still really fun to play as Madness is my favorite mechanic.
Nah you right. Any combo redundancy/consistency crushes casual decks. After that it’s fast mana that separates budget cEDH from the full cEDH.
5:55 hard casting Yuriko should include commander tax because Yuriko had died earlier on, bloody Yuriko pilots think everything is easy!!! haha
Nope Yuriko was cast the first time here. Ninjutsu is putting her on the battlefield.
@@saltynature5277 even more broken! you learn something new everyday
As usual, Yuriko wears the table down, only for someone else to take the game because everyone hated her out of it. 🙃
yep thats usually what happens
deservedly so
That’s what happens when you build Yuriko with no win conditions 🤷♂️
This is literally the fairest she can be built, no extra turns, no ad naus, no thassa’s oracle/demonic consultation. Barely any counter spells to maintain tempo.
Hate Yuriko love the video!
Dam Yuriko is no fun at all! at this point, nobody would want to play with someone who has a yuriko deck in the table xd
Typical yuriko game, explosive couple of turns, everyone panics and tunnel visions, yuriko player dies. Still love playing her tho lol
First Woohuu ! Yea !
How is max misplaying basics lmao !!
I really. Really. Dislike Yuriko
I would have been frustrated being that yuriko player at the very end. Very annoying last second answers for everything
Unfortunately, that's what has to be done to the yuriko otherwise its simply a game over
Then play a commander that doesnt draw immediate hate, simple
Is there a deck list for Klothys?