Wet Fly Tactics: Nylon vs. Fluorocarbon leaders fish very differently
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2022
- There's more to choosing between nylon and fluorocarbon mono leaders than just visibility. Fluorocarbon has a much higher sink rate vs. nylon and this video we'll see the impacts that can have on our presentations.
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Have been fly-fishing for68yrs. Brilliant presentation!!I will never look at leaders the same way again.thx
Peter!!! Hello again. Glad to see/learn again!!
the material used is important as you say but also the size or pound test of the leader makes a huge difference flouro for example does sink faster in shallow lets say up to 3 feet deep streams a 5 x leader may be ideal but in deeper waters with high current for example 6 to 8 feet deep salmon rivers 15 to 20 lb test leader material is better suited in my opinion to get the fly down In .the rivers I fish, I use heavier leaders due the size of fish and the higher current speeds. Also sinking tip fly lines help in that regard as well. very well presented video with good knowledge presented. Thank you
Yep, I was using fluorocarbon tippets the other day, and fishing nymphs and then dry flies (because it's supposedly more invisible). And I wondered at how quickly my dry flies would get wet and sink, even after applying floatant to them. Afterwards I learned that fluorocarbon sinks a lot more than mono. Lesson learned!
I routinely use a couple of feet of fluorocarbon as tippet for my dries, but I'm going very light, 6X or 7X. Then there's no problem with the dry fly sinking.
@@hooked4lifeca Interesting, and good to know. I was using 5X.
Excellent information as usual, tight lines, Jim.
Love your videos. Super informative and interesting.
Super information!! Appreciate it!!
thank you for these gotta try some light weighted decievers with flouro carbon n see if they work better in deeper waters
Thanks Great very informative
Great
Hellooooo ....im building my own leaders , always have and im fishing my 1 wt. And 3 wt. Rods alot ....im landing rainbows and brownies up to 16" - 18" inch with even my 1 wt. Fiberglass rod ....im casting down stream usually and swinging wet flies ( they love those) ....but im experimenting with( diy ) tapered leaders ....whats your take on building such ? I like my leaders for my little rods at 8 ' ft. Long overall ....my 3 wt. Rod is 7' ft. And the 1 wt rod is 6' or 6'6" ....ok let me know what ya think ....i just want my line to carry the loop out and not make a mess hitting the water ... 👍 Thanks for the videos !!
If you're not worried about getting the fly down, then a shortened dry fly leader will work. Just be aware that the butt thickness of some dry fly leaders can cause turnover problems. If that starts to happen, then we're better off making our own.
Great video! I do have a question though. I use threaded furled leaders that float, so if I wanted to fish deeper, can I use fluorocarbon tippet? And if so, how long should it be?
As a general rule I wouldn't use a furled leader for wet fly fishing.
We don't need to buy expensive factory-made, tapered leaders as the turnover isn't critical like dry fly fishing. Making our own leaders works just fine. Use nylon for a modest depth and fluorocarbon for deeper presentations.
Here's a video on wet fly leaders: ua-cam.com/video/lhPE_q0UsbA/v-deo.html
What is the diffremce between flourcarbon and copolymer?
Fluorocarbon is a monofilament line that uses a material with a higher specific gravity and a lower refractive index than nylon mono. This means it sinks better and is less visible than standard nylon mono. On the flip side, we have to know our knots well as fluorocarbon is more prone to knot failure if the knot is not well tied.
Copolymer is as the name suggests, made up of two materials rather than one. It could be fluorocarbon + nylon or two different types of nylon. With a copolymer we have an inner core with an outer layer of a different material.
There are lots of claims made about the superiority of copolymers versus mono, but I can only talk about my experience which was shite! The copolymer I was using would literally shatter under stress with the outer layer peeling off of the core. When I retrieved my line, a foot or more of the line beyond the break point would come apart in my hands.There was obviously an adhesion problem and a difference in elasticity between the two layers. I'm not saying that this problem hasn't been corrected, it may well have been and newer versions are fine, but I'm not going to spend my money on a copolymer.
If someone has a had a better experience with a copolymer, please chime in with your experience as one anecdote does not a definitive case make.
How about adding florocarbon tippet to a nylon leader?
Yes, I do that all of the time for various reasons, including when fishing dries.