CIG has already stated before that this is just an initial introduction to master modes, so all ships just get the same category stats. Fine tuning for each ship will come later.
@@Todestelzerwhen it's very long term development spanning decade(s) it needs to be a part of the development process imo, sure if its a 4 year long alpha mabee not so much
Wow! Just found this AFTER going from my F8C Lightning, back to this ship; my original love as a backer in 2015ish. This ship, regardless of MM changes, will forever be a staple to me.... especially with a Pulse "jammed" inside! Lol.
Vanguard Sentinel is currently one of my aUEC ships I usually have Delivered first after an update. Fun fact most Vanguard flyers already likely know- you can store at least 2 x 2scu boxes above the entrance ramp if you turn them sideways after dragging them in, so technically it has at least 4scu cargo storage lol. (I feel it might be possible to actually stuff 3 x 2scu boxes in the rear, I just haven't tried that yet. Sentinel is great.
I agree with what you say about how they should feel different. Vanguard should be a tank, f8c should be jack of all trades or maybe even more stealthy. Scorpius should be nimble. Thats just my opinion.
UA-cam weirdness, I'll leave it for the luls. --- I love this system description, sounds like a fun system ;) Another excellent reading by Zinya as well!
@infinitespace239 Sorry, UA-cam did something weird as I was going through a Playlist and left a comment on a different video than I started it on... Gotta pause first! XD
The ships were all brought down to speeds of their class. So they should all be the same, to a degree. Once all ships are in MM they will start toning each ship to feel different.
@@infinitespace239 true that! Apologies I at this on every Sentinel video before watching, it took me a year to find this out and older videos I watched didn’t mention the hull hp. Amazing videos keep it up
@@houstandy1009 I’m not sure with the recent patch They did some weapon tuning. I keep hearing laser or ballistic cannons might be the new meta. Idk to be honest
Nice! It's great to see that the Pelica- er I mean Vanguard is strong in Master Modes. One of my favorite combat ships in the game Btw, would it be possible for you to test the Constellation? I'm curious how it will stack up in the new patch with its access to its four size 5 weapons finally
Hey Kornelius. I’m redoing my pledge fleet on paper, so come Invictus I can get what I want with 120 months insurance, lol. Considering Master Modes and things like Pyro, I’m going to melt my Inferno. Got a Harbinger instead, which is similar but with an interior. It’s also much more flexible. I’m even thinking about melting my F8C because it now flies and has dps like the Vanguards without the interior and now really has no upsides with its S1 QT drive and all, which is inferior to the Vanguard’s S2. My fleet setup will be focussed more on ships that should be easier to play solo with engineering in mind. And S2 QT drive ships are preferable as well. Largest ship will be a C2 or maybe a Liberator if that comes out. My Cat has been melted because it will be very hard to manually load for cargo play, and they crippled its range a lot. Looking forward to a stable 3.23 Live release. It’s a good thing we can melt as they are changing so much. At the moment even the 400i isn’t looking good, as they nerfed its speed. I might melt it and get both a Zeus Mk2 CL and ES instead. You might want to try the Avenger. It’s become one of the fastest ships in 3.23. Qapla! o7
@@infinitespace239 Nope, the Avenger is now faster, with 1425 m/s! I know, crazy! The S1 ships, like the Razor are 1450 m/s and the snubs like the Merlin are even 1485 m/s. But 1425 m/s for a ship with 8 SCU of cargo and an interior… sounds kinda good? o7\
@@infinitespace239 Yeah, it’s a bit much ‘tiled’ 😂 But with a Ironweave paint it’s okay I think. Personally I have something with the Reliant Tana. I just like that ship for its excellent utility, views and dps.
Check SC Ships Performances Viewer, Senteniel, litle more agile then Warden, and a emp (for now) but 23 460 total Health Points, Warden can cary same weapons, almost same agility and 42 400 health points. Made me shift from Senteniel to Warden. Warden have same health points as Harbringer, but Harbinger is much less agile, (But have 3? Size 5 tooedos)
For 99% of players the warden is extremely good for PVP duels. But against the top 1% it will lose every time if they're flying a snub fighter or interceptor like the buccaneer. I hope they change this about master modes. Buccaneers and snub fighters should not be able to take out a warden.
The bucc is a MEDIUM interceptor, with a size 4 gun, it is purpose built to take out heavier targets like the vanguard series. A heavy fighter is still a fighter, it's not a capital ship.
Star citizen should always be about skill especially in teamwork. If we start putting hard caps on what size ship is immune to what size weapons then you have a pay to win model.
@@xxbeatleadxx I’m sure telling players you need to spend at minimum $250 if you want to have a chance In the PU is real smart. My bad I thought games that you can learn and can get better at through practice was part of the reward for playing them. I better go and spend $48000 so I can be the best at the game that’s the real mark of a gamer the size of their wallet.
@@scriptoris1947 none of that is true. The best dogfighter is available in game pretty cheaply and is not $250. I'm getting the impression you don't care about that though.
The strongest ships are the ones they’re trying to sell you currently. The most disappointing ships are the ones you bought and just got nurfed. Endless sucker cycle CIG is getting rich on lol
Same ship firepower, same class, it was the only difference one had emp other not. Now Warden has also bigger HP. But regardless of that we are testing firepower in bounty missions. So yeah , Sentinel, Warden, Harbinger, Hoplite.
CIG has already stated before that this is just an initial introduction to master modes, so all ships just get the same category stats. Fine tuning for each ship will come later.
I hope its not years like when they decided to do this with all ship guns
@@gunsmoke9030 this
@@gunsmoke9030Balancing is something never ends. But balancing in a Alpha isn’t of most priority for the development.
@@Todestelzerwhen it's very long term development spanning decade(s) it needs to be a part of the development process imo, sure if its a 4 year long alpha mabee not so much
Great video & thank you for checking out the Vanguard again! 😊
Thank you, glad I could serve.
Wow! Just found this AFTER going from my F8C Lightning, back to this ship; my original love as a backer in 2015ish. This ship, regardless of MM changes, will forever be a staple to me.... especially with a Pulse "jammed" inside! Lol.
Nice 🙂
Vanguard Sentinel is currently one of my aUEC ships I usually have Delivered first after an update. Fun fact most Vanguard flyers already likely know- you can store at least 2 x 2scu boxes above the entrance ramp if you turn them sideways after dragging them in, so technically it has at least 4scu cargo storage lol. (I feel it might be possible to actually stuff 3 x 2scu boxes in the rear, I just haven't tried that yet. Sentinel is great.
The Halo 3 theme song just slipped in there, lmao!
How did it happen, oh noo 😂🤣🫡
I agree with what you say about how they should feel different. Vanguard should be a tank, f8c should be jack of all trades or maybe even more stealthy. Scorpius should be nimble. Thats just my opinion.
Exactly ☺️
UA-cam weirdness, I'll leave it for the luls. --- I love this system description, sounds like a fun system ;) Another excellent reading by Zinya as well!
Zinya ??? You mean Bord Gamer and Zinya 😊 🫡
@infinitespace239 Sorry, UA-cam did something weird as I was going through a Playlist and left a comment on a different video than I started it on... Gotta pause first! XD
@@infinitespace239 Your video is excellent as well, I enjoyed the flight of the Vangaurd. Crazy that you ran into an Idris...
@@havocnchaos Yeah, 😊 thanks mate. Good that we know bout who Zinya is 😎🫡
The ships were all brought down to speeds of their class. So they should all be the same, to a degree. Once all ships are in MM they will start toning each ship to feel different.
The Ion and Inferno were my favorite fighters in 3.22. I feel like the Vanguard is going to be my favorite in 3.23.
Ah, the good ole non blinding hit effects x_x
Huge Vanguard Fan here!
Only downside buyers of this ship (Sentinel) should know is it has half the hull HP of a standard Vanguard!
Yeah, I said that in the video that it is lighter, but it has an emp. So what you like more ☺️
@@infinitespace239 true that!
Apologies I at this on every Sentinel video before watching, it took me a year to find this out and older videos I watched didn’t mention the hull hp. Amazing videos keep it up
@@Vioblight Thank you ☺️
I’m new to this, what weapons should I put on it. I heard him say in the video but I don’t know which go where
@@houstandy1009 I’m not sure with the recent patch
They did some weapon tuning. I keep hearing laser or ballistic cannons might be the new meta. Idk to be honest
Your accent and the way you talk reminds me of the great Davie504 lol, keep it up!
Don't know who that is, but thank you. o7
@@infinitespace239 He slaps bass! 😆
Nice! It's great to see that the Pelica- er I mean Vanguard is strong in Master Modes. One of my favorite combat ships in the game
Btw, would it be possible for you to test the Constellation? I'm curious how it will stack up in the new patch with its access to its four size 5 weapons finally
I LL try to get it, don't know if I can afford it in game 😄
Finally again lol. It was already able to do this in the past.
Ive been telling everyone that the harbinger is a phenomenal craft. Lost mine in a server wipe and havnt picked up the game since
It is a big Titan!
What is your gun setup?
Deadbolt, and MVSA canons.
@@infinitespace239 thank you! I just traded in my mercury for the vanguard yesterday. Want to get some bounty work in.
Hey Kornelius. I’m redoing my pledge fleet on paper, so come Invictus I can get what I want with 120 months insurance, lol. Considering Master Modes and things like Pyro, I’m going to melt my Inferno. Got a Harbinger instead, which is similar but with an interior. It’s also much more flexible. I’m even thinking about melting my F8C because it now flies and has dps like the Vanguards without the interior and now really has no upsides with its S1 QT drive and all, which is inferior to the Vanguard’s S2. My fleet setup will be focussed more on ships that should be easier to play solo with engineering in mind. And S2 QT drive ships are preferable as well. Largest ship will be a C2 or maybe a Liberator if that comes out. My Cat has been melted because it will be very hard to manually load for cargo play, and they crippled its range a lot. Looking forward to a stable 3.23 Live release. It’s a good thing we can melt as they are changing so much. At the moment even the 400i isn’t looking good, as they nerfed its speed. I might melt it and get both a Zeus Mk2 CL and ES instead. You might want to try the Avenger. It’s become one of the fastest ships in 3.23. Qapla! o7
Good choice, I will be thinking too. Maybe sentinel to upgrade. As for fastest ship it is a baconer with speed of 1400 Ms
@@infinitespace239 Nope, the Avenger is now faster, with 1425 m/s! I know, crazy! The S1 ships, like the Razor are 1450 m/s and the snubs like the Merlin are even 1485 m/s. But 1425 m/s for a ship with 8 SCU of cargo and an interior… sounds kinda good? o7\
@@skullhqx Crazy, but I hate awanger it looks like today's ship lol
@@infinitespace239 Yeah, it’s a bit much ‘tiled’ 😂 But with a Ironweave paint it’s okay I think. Personally I have something with the Reliant Tana. I just like that ship for its excellent utility, views and dps.
@@infinitespace239 Today's ship have better flight model in atmo !
The wings dude.... and the aerodynamic design
You are a 890 player i guess
Did I miss something? How are you able to get 4 shield faces in a vanguard?
Now, every ship in 3.23 has a bubble shield, which is worse, because you can't redistribute it by some ships.
@@infinitespace239 oh crap! well did it fix the shield gap the vanguard had atleast?
@@jasonbritt2497 I think yes, bit more testing needed. Now the ship is covered with a shield completely.
@@infinitespace239 thanks so much and thats good news! Love my warden!! bought of recommendation from your channel TY!
@@jasonbritt2497 Glad I served you. o7 my friend.
When they release the new Mirai heavy fighter, they are gonna nerf the Vanguards and release the Mirai buffed as hell. Wait and see...
It is always like that. Luckily we can melt. ☺️
Ares and F8C nerf pretty much mean I’m going back to Warden…
Same
Agreed, except mine is the Harbinger~
No f8c nerf, buffed, hawe not four s2 and four s3 weapon ..
@@overseerhaegemonia7471 oh really?!? Well now you’ve got me excited to fly the F8C again in live! Thank you, friend!
Check SC Ships Performances Viewer, Senteniel, litle more agile then Warden, and a emp (for now) but 23 460 total Health Points, Warden can cary same weapons, almost same agility and 42 400 health points. Made me shift from Senteniel to Warden. Warden have same health points as Harbringer, but Harbinger is much less agile, (But have 3? Size 5 tooedos)
Yeah, Warden is the safest buy with real money.
For 99% of players the warden is extremely good for PVP duels. But against the top 1% it will lose every time if they're flying a snub fighter or interceptor like the buccaneer. I hope they change this about master modes. Buccaneers and snub fighters should not be able to take out a warden.
The bucc is a MEDIUM interceptor, with a size 4 gun, it is purpose built to take out heavier targets like the vanguard series. A heavy fighter is still a fighter, it's not a capital ship.
Star citizen should always be about skill especially in teamwork. If we start putting hard caps on what size ship is immune to what size weapons then you have a pay to win model.
I'm sure balancing around the top 1% of players would work out great
@@xxbeatleadxx I’m sure telling players you need to spend at minimum $250 if you want to have a chance In the PU is real smart. My bad I thought games that you can learn and can get better at through practice was part of the reward for playing them. I better go and spend $48000 so I can be the best at the game that’s the real mark of a gamer the size of their wallet.
@@scriptoris1947 none of that is true. The best dogfighter is available in game pretty cheaply and is not $250. I'm getting the impression you don't care about that though.
Try the Drake Buccaneer, its a wonderful small fighter, resilient and powerful, and people say its great on MMs.
I did it is amazing, will make a video too 🥰
Sentinel has HALF the hit points of Warden and Harbinger now. 24k
The strongest ships are the ones they’re trying to sell you currently. The most disappointing ships are the ones you bought and just got nurfed. Endless sucker cycle CIG is getting rich on lol
also has emp! warden does not ... nobody ever shows the emp \o/ came for the emp never seen it
It doesn't do much. Take a look at my video with Hawk, I have used it there. Look cool 😎
prefer warden with that health buff
Harbinger is significantly better IMHO, more agile, bigger turret, more missiles, s5 torps
Everything you say is true except agility, sentinel has double lower armor so it's more agile.
@@infinitespace239 unless it changes, harbinger is also more agile
Wait. 10 million? Did ship prices get updated in 3.23?
10, million for a heavy fighter is ridiculous.
Sadly that is the new price. A2 is over 40 mil now lol
thats not ridiculous, that is still to low even for the final product when the game is done ...
@@oOWaschBaerOo Considering the mission payout? Lol no
i still dont know why i dont have this ship.
Me too, me too 🫡
not bed not bed ;)
Hehe 😉 velis 🫡
...Aegis Sentinel (Warden) wtf ?
Same ship firepower, same class, it was the only difference one had emp other not. Now Warden has also bigger HP. But regardless of that we are testing firepower in bounty missions. So yeah , Sentinel, Warden, Harbinger, Hoplite.
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