How Much Power Do You Need For A Burnout Competition?
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- SUPER Excited to see Jessies Firebird do some Burnouts soon!
Thanks to @710performance for doing a killer job on Kyle's wheels for his Truck! Check out his channel he does some very good work
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Back when I used to build street motors, it was fairly common for us to get high rpm dips in power and torque like that.
The reason for the dip was we were using intake manifolds or exhaust headers that were tuned for peak power in the ~4500 to 5000 rpm range, but we were revving the motor into the 6800+ rpm range.
These manifold had a tuned flow resonance in the 4500 range, that helped to push or pull the air in/from the cylinders. At ~6800 they would enter a higher order resonance that impeded the flow, reducing the power and torque.
I thought that one too the other thought I had was any way the lifters collapse a small amount until the oil pressure goes higher cause loss of lift in the valve trane always wonder about that with hydraulic lifters when running heavy valve springs.
Please!!! "Hot tip", buy some muriatic acid, (Home Depot, etc.) Soak cadmium or zinc plated nuts, bolts, etc, "out side", in glass or a paper coffee cup. Pour acid back into container for reuse. In 30 seconds plating is gone. Rinse with h20, & dry. Now striped and ready to weld. Plus those vapors are DEADLY !!! Yah I know everyone is an expert, but I have been there and done that. Good luck, racer to racer, and thx for your content. Ty
They’ll find out how dangerous those vapors are years later
What gases in particular are you warning of?? Was HVAC business 40 yrs. Phosgene gas was one we had to watch. Could normally get just a little at a time. Body wouldn’t let you stay there. But it is cumulative. Your body can only take so much. Over yrs one small breath might be one that puts you in hospital or morgue.
Yeah, welding zinc results in a release of Cyanide which is generally considered detremental to health.
@@russellridge8623Remember your melting metal and whatever the plating is on that metal. All kinds of nasty stuff your breathing in. That’s why I started using a fresh air respirator years ago.
THIS!! Galvanizing fumes inhaled will be in your body for the rest of your life. There is no way for the body to metabolize and remove that stuff. Its nasty stuff, bad for the nervous system.
A Dewey being a menace compilation video would be a winner
that's the 500k subscriber bonus episode. 1 hour of Dewey doing Dewey Dog stuff. :D
Most of the Australian burnout cars only use one intake hole on the top hat the other two are dumbie holes I believe killer bee is that way too. Hope this helps
Upvote this for Steve to see ..There's a video on Cletus's channel that shows them blocking them off.
@@Anonymous-uno
I doubt he needs this to figure out his stuff.
and we do better with 1/20 th spent !
I am by no means an expert at this stuff but from what I do know those hats a lot of those Aussie guys are running are basically a top fuel nitro style hat that they dumb down. They are strictly running them for all show. Poser if you will. That is NOT what is on this engine.
Also, this engine is EFI. The Aussie engines you are referencing are mechanical fuel injection.
Steve was looking in there like please fuk not again
Another great video! It was great working with you guys again! Thank you for your support 💪
those wheels look sick!
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thank you 🙏
Steve walking in like "what the hell is all this noise, damn kids"
Steve looking through the window “wth are they doing now?!” 😂
Laurel and Hardy do the dyno.
more like "How much is this going to cost me??"
If you are trying to limit the throttle, you can block off two of the blades (aussie guys do it internally) and get your travel back.
Man Steve’s son is almost a spitting image of him. And you can see how much of the knowledge has transferred and it’s so badass knowing your legacy of engine building is going to live on.
Steve, that intro literally made me laugh out loud! Felt cartoonish how that pulley came off!
We can never get enough of Dewey, Steve. He's such a character and brings a smile to the end of even the toughest of days. The tech content along with the wagon at the track doing 6 second passes are off the charts great but Dewey just brings a special level of warmth to the videos. Cheers!
This is why I love watching your videos. The very interest never would’ve thought it would make any anywhere near that much power with that little throttle.
Weld a washer to bolt, then weld nut to washer….. works everytime
Dewey rocks! Good lil dude right there
Yep...his golden years are now.
Kyle is definitely from his Dad's loins (Smokey and the Bandit reference)...his looks, mannerisms...and the evolution of his thought processes are ongoing...we are in good hands.
Dewey always grabbing some camera time lol, gotta love that dog he just always brings a smile and a laugh. Thanks for the good content Kyle and Steve.
Steve's face at 4:50 though, I'm crying 😂😂
I love those old style blower hats.
Love the video. I would like to see more of your new dyno install, maybe more in-depth account of the YourDyno experience. your transparency with your dyno testing and engine manufacturing is what compels me to watch each of your videos. Thanks for being real!.
Steve, Kyle, and Dewey, y'all rock! Need more of Dewey plz. Peace
😂😂😂 Dewey cam. 🎉🎉🎉 Still waiting for the behind the scenes. Dewey style😊😊
Love all of your content. Thanks for all the work getting it to us.
I sure wish the car in the thumbnail was IN THE VIDEO
@4:48 Steve looking in there like hmm that's not supposed to happen LMAO
“What’d those kids do this time?”
Maybe glad that didn’t happen to me lol
Wow, he looks just like his dad. Sounds like him, too.
Dad life, there is NOTHING better..
I love the father-son content. I know my dad and I would be doing the same thing right now if he was here, our shop probably wouldnt be that nice.
As for video ideas, it would be really cool if you guys could find a highschool kid who lost a dad, teach them how to rebuild an engine, maybe even installation
Kyle just figured out that you can't tig weld through plating.
Also strange dip on top can be belt distortion..
Thank you guys for sharing. Awsome content.
I really don't know what is better: the still spinning pulley or the look on Steve's face.... 😂😂😂
Hello Steve ! Hello Morris Family .
That poor belt looks like it’s holding on for its life. Lol
I was waiting for it to sling off but it held on like the little belt that could 😂
@@jennajones2155 crazy
That belt is flapping around HARD!
That belt looked like a bad belly dancer
It always amazes me how much those belts flap on the tensioner side. Looks like they are loose but aren't
I imagine the forces on the supercharger and crank pulleys would be the same as if a person smashed on the belt with a stick 1000 times a minute.
Not surprised the pulley broke off.
The belt resonance is likely what broke the pulley bolts. If that issue is not corrected its going to cause other problems, like tearing up the main bearings and snapping the crank snout.
@@mikepecchio-gk1bc the pulley bolts sheared off from the throttle slamming shut while under load on the previous run. Think of the force put on those bolts when the RPM's dropped instantly.
In one of your future videos, we would like to see how you seal engines up with different adhesives. Things like using it on both sides of the gasket sometimes on one side of the gasket and sometimes no adhesive. Just talk us through how you do it and why you do it the way you do.
Thanks, Rob
Please put Greta back on the new window, I loved that.
Pretty cool to see that pulley bouncing around that fast👻✅🙌🤑
The low rpm testing was cool and I was amazed at how little the throttle blades were open. That's crazy! -Old dad
The Temu racing channel 😂
Thanks for the videos guys.
You guys are awesome!!! Keep making dyno video's. Love learning!!
500hp + 1 atmosphere = 1000hp... except he forgot the parasitic loss from the blower.
Dewey needs a cameo in every video.
Steve , I formally ask for a full clip of that pulley/balancer dancing around on the floor 😂
And a T-shirt!!!
With music. would be a great short
Thanks guys great knowledge on burn out cars.
Belt stability caused that hub failure. You can see that belt flopping all over the place on the drive side just before it left the chat. It's there any way to stabilize it or is it a tension only on the coast side deal?
When’s the last time you heard of someone going back and torquing the snout each pass … 🤔. 🤷🏻🤭 blower life is unique
Pushrod harmonic flex!
Enjoyed the video. Nice watching the problem solving.
Awesome as Always Just before bed time Wont be able to sleep now...too excited :) Thx Guys
Fantastic video. Videos where, you suffer or you struggle, or things don't go perfect and you have to walk through each. One of the struggles. Struggles. Are the videos where you learn the most as a viewer. And also I enjoy because, we get to see eliminating the dyno eliminating the engine, eliminating the fueling, eliminating the timing and then coming right back to how much boost are you making
Great video! Looking forward to see it in action. Curious about the dip in hp, I once chased this issue at the same rpm it ended up being valve float. Once that got fixed the dip went away.
LMAO! The way that belt pops off is like something out of a cartoon.
Love dewy. He is almost a twin of my past dog hemi. Loved him
Notice the boss shows up right when the pulley fell off. It never fails. lol.
Dang!!! Bad luck means more good lucks coming soon!!!! Love the channel!
I would have looked into the HAT being used on the engien as the culprit...air does funny things and it is VERY possible that the old school hat has a resonance at that RPM thats creating a chokepoint for the air and causing a dip.... stranger thing have happened.
Thanks for another great video Steve
On that dyno, can you hold the engine at specific rpm so that you can work out fuel tables for different throttle positions? Sounds like you do have the ability to load and unload the engine so you can give different loads at different throttle positions.
Great content as always and yes, more Dewey please!
Interesting data for sure. We all learned something together. Great stuff
Awesome guy!!! I am currently working on my first swap. Ls3/6L90E in a 03'Crown Vic Police Interceptor. It's a project with my family. Not my first engine tho. Just a n/a deal. Burnouts and ice cream per say lol. With an occasional track visit. Till I get the suspension done where I can time attack her some.
Good evening Mr. Morris,like always an amazing video, keep it up 🙏🏻🔥
It looks like it will be a fun time at the burnout good luck!!
I had the same dip in power on the chassis dyno on my LS 6.0. It was so nice 94 pump gas at 26 degrees of timing. I pulled 2 degrees out and it smoothed the curve out!
Those rims turned out SICK af!!!
Cheers , From Australia
Just got my SM hoodie great looking thanks a lot
Another Dyno Play Day ! Thanks for sharing !
Very Nice Video! Love how yall worked through the issues and came up with solutions. That baby should rip and last!
We have to do a little bit of this type of work on the wheel Dyno on our drift cars since we too don’t always live at full throttle. Cool to see. Great video.
Awesome video again 👏 👌..keep living the dream ✨️
watching SME in my SME hoodie im all here for it
thank you Kyle great clip
Steve coming up looking through the window was priceless...... like I heard that what now😂
We Love the whole crew, including Dewey ! ,,,, The Conroys, St. Joseph, MO,,,,, Where The Pony Ezpress Began and Jesse James Ended !!!
All of it. 😂 I've never heard anyone say they needed less.
Kyle your doing a awesome job on the videos .
The dip on the graft is caused by harmonic vibration of the valve spring tention. Increasing spring tention would change the harmonics and fix the problem.
nah
One of the coolest dyno videos yet
Great video. A mate here in Aus for his burnout car in his carbon hat 2 of the 3 runners are actually blocked off so the center runner is the only one feeding air to the blower, By the looks of the setup it should kill some tyres. Maintain good wheel speed and don't hit the wall and you will for sure put on a great show
Havin fun watchin you guys figure shit out and me havin a guess where the engine will finally sit at 😉.great vid guys .
Glad you asked, Kyle! How much radiator and cooling system support does a burn out competition put on this sort of combo? Would an intercooled system do better for engine longevity as well as power?
This content makes me want to set notifications, been subbed since cleet said to, but this was very cool
I used to race in junior dragsters and we put a throttle stop on my sister's car. 3/4 throttle actually made it go faster than full throttle. We went to a smaller carb which made it more consistent. Maybe that's what is happening here with the supercharger. The air and fuel is mixing better. Would have been interesting to see if it would have made more power at 80 percent or so compared to 100 percent wide open throttle
Pretty cool stuff and there is always room for the dewey
Appreciate the welding helmet shots, saves my Eyes.
Defiantly want to see an upcoming video of Killer Bee being tuned like you did this motor at 15 - 25 % throttle like Steve said in the end.
that was a really good video guys!!
That engine should last at that level. Cool to see different types of applications 😮
Shooting from the hip on this one, as soon as boost peaks you can see it drags down on the engine a bit, when boost falls off it looks as if the engine spun up a bit quicker to redline.
Seems as it something opens up in the manifold causing leak and boost levels start rising again based on RPM.
the burnout cars here in Australia all seem to have 1200-1400 HP combo's them , mostly blown V8"son methanol for the cooling and all detuned a little bit for longevity
love the content , even a old knuckle buster like me can gane so much wisdom from watching
In my humble opinion as a fan, I can say that to have a proper burnout car you need to have an engine you pay way too much for in a car you really hate to tear up. Then you have to spend more money to get really small tires. Huge expensive engine on skinnies. Then to compete you have to be willing to blow up the engine and completely destroy the car.
not at all. check out the aussie stuff, there's a science to it that americans really haven't figured out. a good example is luxifer where Kyle intentionally has it setup to pull power through the entire run to not overheat the engine. guarantee you'll see the junk crap that's being built here in the US for burnouts will drastically change in the next couple years with all the aussie burnout guys coming over here this year.
@@sirmonkey1985 you know what you are talking about. Cleetus thought he could do it In Australia and failed. They were trying to show him there ways. He slowly getting it down. Look at toast now. It’s still the same blower and motor for awhile now
@ScottBryant did you ever live in Maine, I had a friend with the same name , waaaay back in the day
Aussies may have a formula but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat. They dont need 5k HP and a hi gear to blow a tire. All their cars that compete are 100k plus. You can do the same with a 600hp car. Perception is everything. There formula is shiny bits. @sirmonkey1985
Bit of the opposite though when things are exploding because people aren't putting enough money into it because it'll probably explode anyway. 😂 Circle of mayhem!
Like how steve comes over at the right time with his dad face on like what's going on over here.
I have not finished the video. My money is valve harmonics.
I may be wrong.
Mikel
14:40 Colorado firefighter plates I like this guy!!
Those are FLT( fleet ) plates, rental car most likely
OMG!!! Video of the week! AGAIN!! Only on UA-cam.,
All of it. You need all of the power, Steve.
Tuning for burnouts!! now we are talking ❤ I gotta bring my rig over there and show you guy's how it's done on budget LoL
This is why some big blower cars with those type of throttle valves / hats will actually block off a couple internally. You still get the iconic look of a big blower hat abut with a smaller throttle surface area gives you more control with the pedal. Easier to modulate the throttle.
Dewey is a Handsome old man, Always a joy to see him trotting about