CarnicTrail / Kärnische Höhenweg 2022

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • Hiking Carnic Trail / Kärnische Höhenweg 11.-18.8.2022. Leckfeld Alm - Sillianer Hutte - Obstanersee Hutte - Porzehutte - Hochweissteinhutte - Volayerseehutte - Valentinalm - Nassfeld - Eggeralm.
    The Carnic High Trail follows the Austrian-Italian border heading from west to east along the main ridge of the Carnic Alps. The trail begins in Sillian in the High Pustertal Valley and ends in Unterhörl in the neighbouring province of Carinthia. More info about route: www.tyrol.com/...
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  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    My earlier comment did not go through to you.
    I found out that Alpenhof Plattner is not open this summer and it is suggested that you stay in Livio in Italy just over the Nassfeld Pass.
    I have been walking since 2012 every summer. E5 from Oberstdorf to Bolzano, E5 from Bolzano to Passo Coe, started the GTA but stopped after two stages for various reasons, Tour du Mont Blanc, Adlerweg Stage 1 to 17, Osttiroler Adlerweg (highly recommended), Munich to Venice (highly recommended), Alpe Adria Trail up to Cividale, Karnischer Hoehenweg Sillian to Thoerl Maglern. A great hobby to be enjoyed as long as is possible. Planning is half of the fun and all the research around it.
    I am a walking grandmother too! Am now walking the Nordalpenweg with someone I met on the Karnischer Hoehenweg. Your slides show that you walked past Lago di Bordaglia when on the 403 past Creta di Bordaglia going towards the Giramondo Pass. My husband and I returned there last summer. It is the jewel in the crown of FVG (Friuli Venezia Giulia).
    It is a great area and the Italian side can be challenging. The Italian paths are very poorly marked.

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    Those prices that you give are reasonable for someone who stays in hotels, but, considering that the mountains are meant to be open to everyone, it does make it an expensive holiday, particularly for families. For me, an obligatory half board payment is excessive, as I only really want an overnight, a shower and some raw fruit and vegetables. Huts that can accommodate my needs end up being significantly cheaper, as the cost of fruit is negligible.

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for all your information, particularly regarding the Vanoise region.
    I have been to Verbania on Lago Maggiore (visit Villa Tarranto Gardens) and to Sirmione and Limone around Lago Garda.
    But I have never been to Lago Como. I avoid Switzerland, because it is so expensive, even though it is beautiful.
    I did find that Tour du Mont Blanc was very expensive, as the overnights were not cheap.
    In general, in the last couple of years, the overnights in the huts have risen steeply.
    Walking in the mountains is not the poor man's option anymore, unless you camp outside, but that is often not permitted.

    • @finnishgrandma_hikingalps
      @finnishgrandma_hikingalps  6 місяців тому

      Yes I believe TMB is so popular that prices get up, also common price level of course. - When I did Swiss Via Alpina from Sargans to Montreux, and also Jungfrau Tour combined with it, I saw thar near tourust areas and big cities hut are far more expensive, than in quiet areas abd simple huts. - For next summer Aosta hike (Italy) I’ve made reservations; almost all with half board in dormitore. Price is usually 60€ for one. - usually, if HB is not obligatory, I take B&B, and eat something from list when arriving, Dinners are so heavy and late. With HB price is 420€/ week , but I do not think it is expensive, including stay and food. In Swiss I think price could be 80€/ 560€/ week ?; some people use this for one night in hotel :).

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    I have also walked the Karnischer Hoehenweg in 2018 and 2019.
    It is always interesting to see the variants chosen, as I made different choices to you.
    You seem to have missed out the section from Ploeckenhaus to Nassfeld.
    Also from Eggeralm to Thoerl Maglern.
    I recommend that you return one day and fill in the missing sections.
    Sometimes the weather does not permit some of the stages.
    Ploeckenhaus to Zollnerseehuette, then on to Straniger Alm and Nassfeld is an amazing part of the walk.
    There is so much to see, that I am still returning there and exploring the region.
    Feistritzer Alm with the views from Oisternig over to Achomitzer Alm and Monte Lussari and just amazing.
    I see that you are from Finland. I am still returning to the Zollnersee area every summer and currently walking the Nordalpenweg.
    Esther

    • @finnishgrandma_hikingalps
      @finnishgrandma_hikingalps  6 місяців тому

      Thank you for your message! You really know this area well :) . Yes, I did some changes, stayed too long in Plöckenpass war museum, and got some bad weather. And yes, I was hiking until Egger Alm, and then down. I had a flight to catch, and there was some damages on route, flood or somerhing. Beforehand I was told many people end the hike to Valentinalm. -in Nassfeld I was sleeping in Alpenhof Plattner, I heard there has been a fire last year, do you know if it is still open?

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    I just looked at the Giants Trail; I see that the last stage from Rifugio Bonatti to Courmayeur is the same route as done in reverse on the Tour du Mont Blanc. It does look difficult, as does the Stubai Trail. If you ever do Munich to Venice, be very careful on the Glungezer Huette to Lizumer Huette seven summits variant. I got into trouble on it half way this year, as it was raining and very slippery. It is all boulders up there with no real path. I have also walked in the valley below (Voldertal) past Voldertalhuette and Steinkasern and up to Naviser Jochl (a much prettier and enjoyable route and technically much easier). I have come to the conclusion that unnecessary risk is just not worth it. One has to consider that one has a family and one should not be taking too many risks. The Alpe Adria Trail goes on very established walking trails and probably the hardest stage is Baumgartnerhof to Kranjska Gora and that is fine too in good weather. But the weather can suddenly change in the Karawanken. The Adlerweg is also not technically difficult, except when you get to the Lechtaler Alpen and there you have an easier set of stages for those unwilling to take risks. Munich to Venice is fine; the nastiest stage is Karwendelhaus to Hallerangerhaus, but again, I had bad weather, so walked around the mountain which is much longer (36km instead of 14km), so avoided Schlauchkarsattel. The Sella Massif you have already visited on the Alta Via 1. You often find that the paths cross each other, eg. Adlerweg also has Karwendelhaus to Hallerangerhaus, but then goes over Stempeljoch to Nordkette near Innsbruck. I also have travel constraints; coming from England. It does not give you the extra days that you sometimes need.

    • @finnishgrandma_hikingalps
      @finnishgrandma_hikingalps  6 місяців тому

      I agree your safety opinion - as a solo hiker I am very careful and I do not take any risks with weather etc. I live in sea-level. very flat area, and I do not know mountains as those who live in mountain area. -- I hope Giants Trail includes more 'marsch' than Stubai route :) , not so much climbing over rocks. -If you like scenic routes that are not technical, I really recommend Vanoise National Park! It is great . -And yes, I like the way routes connect! Tour Mont Blanc is connected with Walkers Haute Route, and that is connected with Tour Monte Rosa. Now Giants Trail has connection to both TMB and TMR. -When I did the TMB first time, I chose Col Sapin route from Courmayer to Val Ferret. Next summer I wanted to do that crest from Bertone to Testa Bernarda, but it was very heavy rain, so I took the lower route to Ferret (Elena). Now I have planned to stay in Frassati, and then do the crest route to Bertone to stay my last night before journey to airport. Travelling day is always there waiting, and if you have a rain day or two on route, you has to cut to catch your flight...

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the recommendation of the Vanoise. It does look an interesting area, although French is not my forte! I too have only solo hiked; the exception being my current traverse of Austria on the Nordalpenweg. Planning is a little harder for two people, but it does help from a safety point of view and there is some company at the end of the day. As a solo hiker, I always carry a tracker so that my family can see that I reached my overnight destination (or raise the alarm if I don't and then they will know where to find me).
    Before starting the Nordalpenweg, I had considered doing the GR11 across the Pyrenees, but I was a little put off by the presence of bears. I know they don't generally eat meat, but there is always the exception. Also my Spanish is non-existent. So when the opton of doing the Nordalpenweg came up, I preferred staying in German speaking terrain, as I am bilingual. There is also the Zentralalpenweg and the Sudalpenweg. These are all east to west routes through Austria and should keep me going for some considerable time! I also only have the summer months in which to walk. You might like the Grande Traversata delle Alpi which is a route starting in Switzherland near the Nufenen Pass, crosses the Swiss border at the Gries Pass and then follows the border with Italy and France down to Ventimiglia. It is the route on the Italian side; on the French side it is the GR5.

    • @finnishgrandma_hikingalps
      @finnishgrandma_hikingalps  6 місяців тому

      I do not speak french either, but in Vanoise there was easy to hike although. Ihad a Cicerone. book, but in National Park you find. Ery clear structure of paths (lower and higher options) and huts about 5 hrs between each other. So route is easy to modify. -only minus was a bit long traverse; i took a plane to Geneve and then train and bus to Modane. But Vanoise Tour is also part of GR55, it is possible to join from other villages, too. -planning next summer route is always so difficult, because there are so many interesting possibilities. I’ll do a short four days trip to Ticino and Lombardia (Lago Maggiore, Lugano and Como) in April, long distance routes are not available but I’ll hike around and take a look at area for later plans. :)

  • @EstherBergman-t6b
    @EstherBergman-t6b 6 місяців тому

    I have also walked the Alpe Adria Trail from Franz Josef's Hoehe to Cividale in Italy plus the 7 day miniloop through all three countries (Austria/Slovenia/Italy). You seem to enjoy the more technical Haute routes.

    • @finnishgrandma_hikingalps
      @finnishgrandma_hikingalps  6 місяців тому

      You have been hiking many routes I have be dreaming of! Alpe Adria Trail, and also Eagle Walk. And Munich to Venice is definetly on my bucket list, some day. But, I have demanding work, and always has to plan travelling routes, flights and train routes. There are so many great routes!! Planning is part of trip.--Yes, I've done some more technical routes, but next summer I'll do Aosta High Route (Giants Trail, more walking. I still have fear of high places so black routes like Stubai was demanding for me.

  • @CathyandGary
    @CathyandGary 2 роки тому +2

    Wow how beautiful 😍