Ok, i figured it out i think, if you do the side b and then towards the end of the animation hold down and then tap sheild then special button, popo will crouch and nana will use blizzard. I dont know the exact timing, but it doesnt seem too tight because i can get it pretty consistantly in practice. I dont think this is exactly like BigD's desync, but it definitely desyncs out of side b.
People dont understand that in some matchups you have to sit back and think about each move you make. Captain L played great especially against an Icies like Big D
Game 2 serves Captain L right for just trying to thunderjolt camp Big D the entire match. This is one of the first timeouts I’ve ever seen in Ultimate. Props to Big D for bringing more character diversity to Ultimate so we don’t just have to watch the “top tiers” (aka wolf, palu, Fox, Snake, olimar, and pika/pichu)
You camp them and play lame when they approach and wiff something you capatilze on it and focus to kill nana but don't get too carried because you'll most like get punished and be cautious when playing against sopo because everyone gets hit bynthe stray side b and gets Uair stringed so you habe to space your moves more accordingly when playing against sopo
Popo has been the leading ice climber since melee and at this point anyone who knows anything about IC knows that. Because of that its a lot easier for everyone involved to call the leading IC Popo and the cpu Nana as thats been the standard for years
Adoro a los ice climbers pero debo admitir que pikachu usó las técnicas adecuadas para adaptarse a esta batalla... para quienes juegan constantemente , pika es uno de los oponentes más fuertes en general.
@@MudakTheMultiplier The lower percent rule is to mimic traditional fighting games when a timeout occurs. The player with the life lead wins. If a time out occurs and they have the same percent, they have to play a 1 stock match to settle it.
Difference between playing cowardly and cautiously. Ls play was incredibly patient because if rushing icies is exactly how they win. Especially if they understand the match up and possible desynchs. One wrong move couldve become a Twitter clip for L
@@marche800 Yeah but not neutral b every time. There's other strategic ways to get in and separating them. Captain L was playing too careful; too cautious. It cost him the game
@@privera4941 na he was doin fine big D is just really good he played the MU like how ur suppose to play against climbers u have to play as lame possible big d just knows the exact time on how to punish things
Ppl don't u understand when you camp, you camp wjen you have lead, this game isn't honest so majority time if you want to win you have to play lame it's been like that in ever smash game some chars don't have to play lame cause some of them are rush down so they have to go in but no one gets it they see camping Instant resident sleeper but ppl are trying to win out here thry don't care if you think it's lame if they win games that's what they're going to do
“I love Big D dude”
“It’s really hard to land on Big D”
“big d trying to get in there”
"Big D just slapping his gigantic cock into Pikachu's face" They said that, right?
the top comment is always a sexual joke, isnt it?
@@esqimo6647 "big d is always a sexual joke, isnt it?"
"big d in a really great spot"
A battle that reaches the end of the timer... damn, truly a rarity here folks. Crazy match, well done by both players.
that's the first time ive watched a time out, and not only didn't notice, but also felt like it was an aggressive match the whole time. Damn
So do you know why they both went to sd at the end?
QuacklQuacks I think the ruleset is that they don’t play sudden death but they judge who won the game based of who has the lower percentage at the end
Its really hard to land on Big D.
PAUSE!
Does anybody know how Big D is doing that desync where Nana Blizzards and Popo shields?
Yeah, i was wondering the same thing...
You can see at 6:47 that there a few frame difference from when nana shields and popo shields. Try buffering shield and smashing down b after a side b
Ok, i figured it out i think, if you do the side b and then towards the end of the animation hold down and then tap sheild then special button, popo will crouch and nana will use blizzard. I dont know the exact timing, but it doesnt seem too tight because i can get it pretty consistantly in practice.
I dont think this is exactly like BigD's desync, but it definitely desyncs out of side b.
Side b, down b (bit) hold shield, not sure about timing either, but it's a consistent desync
IzawSmash has two videos about desyncing ice climbers which might be helpful
L adapted to the matchup pretty damn quick.
People dont understand that in some matchups you have to sit back and think about each move you make. Captain L played great especially against an Icies like Big D
11:22 holy shit that save
Is anyone else annoyed that they're call Nana Popo vise versa
Very
Thing is if they call it the other way it gets confusing
I don’t even use IC’s and it annoys the hell out of me
He sounds real stupid saying Nana off stage
Game 2 serves Captain L right for just trying to thunderjolt camp Big D the entire match. This is one of the first timeouts I’ve ever seen in Ultimate. Props to Big D for bringing more character diversity to Ultimate so we don’t just have to watch the “top tiers” (aka wolf, palu, Fox, Snake, olimar, and pika/pichu)
what else was Captain L supposed to do
Run in and get instantly comboed to death (or killed for grabbing the wrong IC)?
Captain L played really well, so how the hell are you supposed to play this matchup??
Camp. It honestly seemed like whoever approached here is the one that loses.
@@TheCleanProphet Gotta watch out for that timer though
You have to hard camp with tjolts really
You camp them and play lame when they approach and wiff something you capatilze on it and focus to kill nana but don't get too carried because you'll most like get punished and be cautious when playing against sopo because everyone gets hit bynthe stray side b and gets Uair stringed so you habe to space your moves more accordingly when playing against sopo
I was wondering, could he have forward smashed those side B's?
The announcers mixed up Popo and Nana the entire set. The skin Big D was using has Nana as the primary ice climber.
Popo will always be the leading ic, nana the cpu one, that way it easier to comentate
Popo has been the leading ice climber since melee and at this point anyone who knows anything about IC knows that. Because of that its a lot easier for everyone involved to call the leading IC Popo and the cpu Nana as thats been the standard for years
@@packun_jonk3276 in Melee, Nana can also be the lead IC based on skin. But I understand if this has been the norm for commentators since then.
Adoro a los ice climbers pero debo admitir que pikachu usó las técnicas adecuadas para adaptarse a esta batalla... para quienes juegan constantemente , pika es uno de los oponentes más fuertes en general.
I love when the announcers think they know what’s going on with the desyncs but don’t fully understand the mechanics.
So this tourney determines draw by percent, is that normal?
Mudak The Multiplier that is the standard
@@lime1441 thanks. I suppose I haven't seen many time outs.
Mudak The Multiplier usually doesn’t happen. And if they timed out with the same percents, they play a 3min game or something lol
@@MudakTheMultiplier The lower percent rule is to mimic traditional fighting games when a timeout occurs. The player with the life lead wins. If a time out occurs and they have the same percent, they have to play a 1 stock match to settle it.
13:13 when you've been playing coward all the game and then get mad bc time ran out haha.
Difference between playing cowardly and cautiously. Ls play was incredibly patient because if rushing icies is exactly how they win. Especially if they understand the match up and possible desynchs. One wrong move couldve become a Twitter clip for L
so are popo and nana brother and sister or boyfriend and girlfriend?
Both
@@tajwolf23 gross
Their relationship wasn't established in the original game, but I always imagined them as lovers
Yes
We don't know. They could be cousin's or just friends too.
Sopo
Bruh, is there a game where Pikachu ICs isn't a disastrous match up for pika?
i think pika wins personally,, its more of that captain L has no idea how to fight icies
I've never seen pikachu being played like such a sissy.
I hate cancer camping
Pikachu. It looks annoying af to deal with. Its hard to watch
@@privera4941 Problem is that not playing that way against the ice climbers us hella dangerous.
@@marche800 Yeah but not neutral b every time. There's other strategic ways to get in and separating them. Captain L was playing too careful; too cautious. It cost him the game
@@privera4941 na he was doin fine big D is just really good he played the MU like how ur suppose to play against climbers u have to play as lame possible big d just knows the exact time on how to punish things
It's just a thing of the matchup. Any character with such a wild punish game and weak approach game is prone to being camped out
Ya'll hating on L's camping are probably really bad.
Doesnt make it any less boring and lame to watch
Ppl don't u understand when you camp, you camp wjen you have lead, this game isn't honest so majority time if you want to win you have to play lame it's been like that in ever smash game some chars don't have to play lame cause some of them are rush down so they have to go in but no one gets it they see camping Instant resident sleeper but ppl are trying to win out here thry don't care if you think it's lame if they win games that's what they're going to do
@@SashinkimotoLee but L started camping immediately lead or no
This show is cringe my god!!!!😂
First :)
Why