Although it's a losers match, Jesus the commentators and the crowd went wild like it was the grand finals. Great to see people hyping low tier characters
Hoggington the Fourteenth true. Like why are you playing young link? just to win? This guy seems bad at the game and I feel like he just looked at the tier list and choose young link and practiced him for HOURS
@@1kjuice I never played young link because of tier list, I don't even care about tier lists. I only play characters that's fun to play. Seriously your opinion is dumb, judging a person's main because of his tier list is like saying he is being carried.
They need to buff the Ice Climbers in general they went from like A tier in brawl to F tier or D tier I'm not saying wobbling should come back but at least buff them
@@RockinRay-dp6zx Tbh they need to buff: -Hammer Range -Ability to recover after Side B offstage -Down B range -Desync. This is the worst one. Smash ended IC after almost removing their Desync.
@@lilkxdude5659 thank you like I know it's possible to make them good what's worse is that no nerfs are being made to ganon with him killing at like 36 percent yet characters like Luigi and IC get nerfed within updates I think the solo side b should let you grab the ledge not instantly drop and let you still attack if the move ended
As an ice climbers main I think they should stay the same when together since longer range could be broken and the single ice climber recovery should be improved
@@RockinRay-dp6zx Ganon doesn't need a nerf lmao. Either way, 3.1.0 was the best patch smash has ever had imo. But yeah, Ganon isn't good enough or busted enough to need a nerf. I personally don't think Ice climbers are bottom tier (though they did just remove the infinite), because if used right they have several 0-to-death combos, and they're pretty oppressive. By no means are iceclimbers good, but I feel like they sit in lower mid-tier. I would like to see them buffed, but I think IC is a difficult character to mess around with, because they can easily go broken with a some slight buffs. I think some Sopo buffs, and either a better desync or make them harder to gimp is all you need to put them in a solid mid tier position.
I actually makes me happy as an ICs main for people to put away past grudges :) Besides, they can't even wobble/chain grab everyone anymore so the victories are genuine for once (if no one knows the strategy blame the low representation for ICs, not the character).
Player 1 (the leading climber) is usually called Popo and Player 2 (the following climber) is usually called Nana in reference to the original skin (Popo P1 and Nana P2), just to make things less confusing. Besides, not many people care unless they don't know the terminology, although using the correct names for when Nana is P1 is my personal preference.
I may be wrong and sorry as I don't have the game or rarely played or even a way to test this. But doesn't Nana block a few frames after Popo? If so... Then there is a lot more desync opportunities. Then it would be very hard to fight Ice Climbers if this is actually a thing. I wish I had the game or system to test this. 😕
Yes Nana is always 6(?) frames behind Popo, so there might be ways to desync by parrying with Popo while Nana normal shields. The players are still in the lab so we'll see.
XxWallzxX There are grab desyncs and jab desyncs, dozens of known desyncs. I dunno if there’s anything from just grabbing, you’d have to ask the IC Discord or something
I don't think you can desync purely from shield. You can desync from throws, jabs, parries, etc., anything where Popo acts independently from Nana, or where Nana has longer endlag. There's many known desyncs, and a good IC player can be very difficult to fight. If you get caught in a desync combo, IC can get true 0-to-deaths with perfect inputs. Unfortunately, there are many places where IC falls behind, and as such they're relatively low tier, but they can be more than deadly if used correctly.
Also you can do roll into immediate down throw. As popo slams the opponent to the ground, input a special for Nana. You can do some crazy combos with this
U know what tip me off the most watching Battle of BC 3 ice climbers matchs is the commentators and the crowds always wrong mentioning the characters names. Big D is using costume 5 where NANA is the Leader player, and POPO is the partner AI. So they should yelling NANA instead of POPO. Read here if u dont believe me:www.ssbwiki.com/Ice_Climbers_(SSBU)
They mentioned it in one of his earlier games and said they were gonna keep calling the main Popo for the sake of clarity. They KNOW, but they don’t let PETTY SHIT get in the way of ENJOYMENT and CLARITY. Kool?
The guys above me basically explained it but a while ago I heard Scar say that he thinks we should call them “chief” and “backup” to avoid this type of confusion
Yeaaa, IC mains always call the lead climber Popo and the sub Nana as well. When you're trying to explain combos, desyncs, etc, things are just much easier to follow.
Need more crowds like this tbh
Crowd: **cheering for Popo**
Big D: **Is Nana**
They were cheering for "Sopo" thank you very much.
And no one calls Solo Nana "Sona" because that is a big Nana and Nono.
@Steinwaytoday That's... that's her brother... or at least I think so. Was it ever specified?
Freefork Sakurai said that they are really close friends
@@InfernoCA Miyamoto made the characters. He should speak on it.
Wait... Miyamoto probably told Sakurai that.
@@InfernoCA do you know when he said that?
Although it's a losers match, Jesus the commentators and the crowd went wild like it was the grand finals. Great to see people hyping low tier characters
High tiers are boring.
They are low tiers because of how shitty they play. The characters themselves are fine
Hoggington the Fourteenth true. Like why are you playing young link? just to win? This guy seems bad at the game and I feel like he just looked at the tier list and choose young link and practiced him for HOURS
@@1kjuice you sound dumb.Would u have said the same thing to Mkleo?also let him be,if he feels comfortable wit yink then let him main him.
@@1kjuice I never played young link because of tier list, I don't even care about tier lists. I only play characters that's fun to play. Seriously your opinion is dumb, judging a person's main because of his tier list is like saying he is being carried.
3:12 - 3:40 after is some of the funniest shit I've heard from commentators LMFAO
vaderglenn first seed had me DYING
Popo actually training with Goku to teleport x')
10:40
This is what happens when you buff Greninja.
A tier commentary
In the last kill, he used Nana (aka Popo) to ledge trump Young Link and hit em with a forward smash.
Keith Redacted that’s brilliant
15:46 you can clearly see Nana charging a sync'd FSmash. Big D did do what you said in a later match though!
No, Young Link just dropped from ledge.
EYYYY keith hi man surprised to see u here, 'sup?
Ay didn't expect to see you here. Still hoping for the knight in smash.
Even though he lost, that 2v1 plays was fucking god tier. That’s a badass clip he has under his belt
10:41 O_o
Sakurai you have some fixing
Big D underrated
I honestly think they need to buff Ice Climbers' hammer range.
They need to buff the Ice Climbers in general they went from like A tier in brawl to F tier or D tier I'm not saying wobbling should come back but at least buff them
@@RockinRay-dp6zx Tbh they need to buff:
-Hammer Range
-Ability to recover after Side B offstage
-Down B range
-Desync. This is the worst one. Smash ended IC after almost removing their Desync.
@@lilkxdude5659 thank you like I know it's possible to make them good what's worse is that no nerfs are being made to ganon with him killing at like 36 percent yet characters like Luigi and IC get nerfed within updates I think the solo side b should let you grab the ledge not instantly drop and let you still attack if the move ended
As an ice climbers main I think they should stay the same when together since longer range could be broken and the single ice climber recovery should be improved
@@RockinRay-dp6zx Ganon doesn't need a nerf lmao. Either way, 3.1.0 was the best patch smash has ever had imo. But yeah, Ganon isn't good enough or busted enough to need a nerf. I personally don't think Ice climbers are bottom tier (though they did just remove the infinite), because if used right they have several 0-to-death combos, and they're pretty oppressive. By no means are iceclimbers good, but I feel like they sit in lower mid-tier. I would like to see them buffed, but I think IC is a difficult character to mess around with, because they can easily go broken with a some slight buffs. I think some Sopo buffs, and either a better desync or make them harder to gimp is all you need to put them in a solid mid tier position.
Such an entertaining set.
people cheering for icies? we are in the darkest timeline
Yes. Welcome to the age of darkness
I actually makes me happy as an ICs main for people to put away past grudges :) Besides, they can't even wobble/chain grab everyone anymore so the victories are genuine for once (if no one knows the strategy blame the low representation for ICs, not the character).
*brightest
Imagine being able to switch the main climber with a button input and auto switching when the main climber dies 😳
When the announcers mix up the ice climbers names (ಥ﹏ಥ)
Player 1 (the leading climber) is usually called Popo and Player 2 (the following climber) is usually called Nana in reference to the original skin (Popo P1 and Nana P2), just to make things less confusing. Besides, not many people care unless they don't know the terminology, although using the correct names for when Nana is P1 is my personal preference.
THE BIG D SETUP
Amazing work Dawson!!
I may be wrong and sorry as I don't have the game or rarely played or even a way to test this. But doesn't Nana block a few frames after Popo? If so... Then there is a lot more desync opportunities. Then it would be very hard to fight Ice Climbers if this is actually a thing. I wish I had the game or system to test this. 😕
Yes Nana is always 6(?) frames behind Popo, so there might be ways to desync by parrying with Popo while Nana normal shields. The players are still in the lab so we'll see.
XxWallzxX There are grab desyncs and jab desyncs, dozens of known desyncs. I dunno if there’s anything from just grabbing, you’d have to ask the IC Discord or something
Ice Climbers are always in the lab though
I don't think you can desync purely from shield. You can desync from throws, jabs, parries, etc., anything where Popo acts independently from Nana, or where Nana has longer endlag. There's many known desyncs, and a good IC player can be very difficult to fight. If you get caught in a desync combo, IC can get true 0-to-deaths with perfect inputs. Unfortunately, there are many places where IC falls behind, and as such they're relatively low tier, but they can be more than deadly if used correctly.
Does link know what bombs are
4:00 Solomar would like to say hello.
I can't believe my boy link done dirty like this
Rip it’s the losers. Can’t wait to see Pandarian and Esam play though.
Too bad those commentators don't know about the best ledge guard in the game...
The neutral B + down B one on each climbers one?
this ice climbers player is so good
Teleport?? Boi that was an air dodge
NA northwest has the most hype crowd
10:41 相方テレポートバグ
Esam is my favorite young link
Nobody:
BigD: Ice Climbers is godlike
This gives me to hope to keep playing as ice climbers even though I can’t figure out how to desync
Crafty - do a short hop and up air just before you hit the ground input a special, if you input the same specialtwice it will de sync
Also flick the stick to dash, then in the middle of the dash tap A and if jab hits then only popo will jab, desynced
Also you can do roll into immediate down throw. As popo slams the opponent to the ground, input a special for Nana. You can do some crazy combos with this
Thx for the tips I’m going to do some practice.
No problem, good luck!
Links up smash is underrated.. a lot of missed opportunities
8:45
I like ice climbers in S.S.B. there are a tag team.
U know what tip me off the most watching Battle of BC 3 ice climbers matchs is the commentators and the crowds always wrong mentioning the characters names. Big D is using costume 5 where NANA is the Leader player, and POPO is the partner AI. So they should yelling NANA instead of POPO. Read here if u dont believe me:www.ssbwiki.com/Ice_Climbers_(SSBU)
most ice climbers players call the main ice climber popo to avoid confusion like this anyways
They mentioned it in one of his earlier games and said they were gonna keep calling the main Popo for the sake of clarity. They KNOW, but they don’t let PETTY SHIT get in the way of ENJOYMENT and CLARITY. Kool?
The guys above me basically explained it but a while ago I heard Scar say that he thinks we should call them “chief” and “backup” to avoid this type of confusion
Yeaaa, IC mains always call the lead climber Popo and the sub Nana as well.
When you're trying to explain combos, desyncs, etc, things are just much easier to follow.
Y'all sexist as fucc. ;)
This young link plays so nasty
This is how many ppl got triggered when they called popo nana
👇🏽
why he is not using the grabs combos of ice climbers????
he didnt know how at this point
Alex , con x de mixta he knows but he just plays in neutral
Dayum
Big D is hype
Too bad that didnt kill at 120, Young Link's smash attacks barely kills at 140 lul
10:40 CHEATER
OnePumpMan - a i r d o d g e
Cool video
Strike you have nice fucking falco lets go dont drop de gang bird
Naisu
Is that a jojo reference I smell
yesss
@4:40 "we take those"
??? YL was all over them second stock and most of third stock he won that cleanly. They were too busy talking
Young link is boring to watch. Just spamming projectiles
So true.