AnyCubic Kobra 2 MAX: Massive 420x420x500mm Print Volume - A Great Value Large Format 3D Printer
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- 00:00 Intro
02:54 Setup & first print
06:15 18 minutes VS 34 minutes 3D Benchy
09:34 Retraction test: Honeycomb box
11:13 Clearance test: Number slider
12:27 Tolerance test: 0.225mm to 0.05mm
13:32 First layer test: 420x420mm PLA sheet
14:56 Max Z-height test 500mm trashcan
17:23 Decorative print test: Robo Alpaka and compare with Comgrow T500, Neptune 4 Max and CR10 SE
18:49 Test print with other materials: TPU, PETG, ABS
21:32 Cloud printing test
22:43 Pros and Cons
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3D models:
Number slider:
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Honeycomb box with lid:
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Tolerance tes:
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Tire stack penholder:
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Robo Alpaka:
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Trash can:
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Excellent video finally someone did a full set of tests 👍
This is the review I have been searching for! Very helpful. I really enjoy the b-roll shots that show what you’re talking about when going I’ve the features. I ordered this printer thismorning (before your review was uploaded), and I’m happy to know I made a good decision on a printer to replace my older troublesome creality cr-10 max.
This is the most in depth review I have ever seen on any 3D printer yet! Thank you for this, I will definitely be taking a look at your other videos as this will help make my decision on my first 3D printer. Wonderful!
Great work Aurora and team.
I love your voice as well! You are a good presenter. The review is on point with excellent technical evaluation, detailed and clear descriptions, and helpfull comparisons. Subbed!
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Wow 🤩 I love the assembly instruction visuals! Definitely keep that, well done 👍.
Great video review as usual. Very detailed and thorough and unbiased.
Excellent video. Thank you for the thorough review and comparison. Really helped me make up my mind
Jeeez! What a detailed review. Nice! Helped me with decision. Thank You.
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*Wow, what an excellent and well-thought-out review! I really appreciate you taking the time to thoroughly cover the AnyCubic Kobra 2 MAX. I'm seriously considering getting this printer or perhaps the Neptune 4 MAX. I guess I'll wait and see which one I can snag for a better deal. Thanks again for the great content!*
Amazing review Aurora! I was looking at either the Neptune or Kobra for the large print format. Now that I have seen both reviews from you I know which one I'll be ordering.
Amazing! Thank you for the review!!
Very detailed. Great video, thank you
Thanks for your great reviews as always... This one saved me from not making a mistake, being forced to used the "cloud" for network printing is a No Sale.....Thanks!
I love your voice. Even if I cared nothing about 3d printers, I could still listen to you all day long.
Glad do hear it performs well... because I couldn't wait and already bought one 😂 👍
Great! Perfect review!
Great Video! Im a newer 3d Printer/maker and content creator and that was very informative and precise
Expecting this printer in a couple of days. I didn't have the others to test against, but the reviews convinced me. Also, swore I wouldn't buy another printer with leveling wheels.
I must say your channel is very informative by the way you do your testing.
I got the Kobra 2 Pro a few days ago thanks to your recommendation list. It's working very well, I'm glad I listened to you, thank you all for your hard work :)
Great video, thank you for sharing.
As a former English Teacher, I must say that your diction and your sentence structure and your pronunciation is very good. You sound older than your age and you are like a radio personality or a knowledgeable weather person. I bought the AnyCubic Kobra 2 MAX today.
Great job, as always👏🏻 will you test the Creality cr-m4? Thank you so much for what you do👏🏻
Hi Aurora, great video as usual. I just wanted to give a hint: i believe that the reason why there is not any calibration in klipper for resonance at tall heights is because what you are experiencing at the top of tall prints is not printer resonance but vibration of the printed part itself, so it will depend also on what you are printing, and cannot be calibrated in advance. You usually test the tall vase which is very light and tends to "move" more. If you can i d make a test with a more "solid" print to see if the effect is less noticeable. Hope this helps
Cheers
Also resonance of the complete system changes as weight and geometry changes
Sounds like a solvable problem for Klipper, but absolutely way more complicated than the basic input shaping case. A basic approach might be for Klipper to pause large prints after each 100mm in Z height or so, and doing temporary input shaping recalibrations.
Outstanding video as always! Just wondering, are you planning on reviewing the Ender 3 V3 KE? If so, would you recommend that over the Bambu Lab A1 Mini? Thanks as always!
Great info thanks!
Great review as usual. Just subbed. I'll put off buying the Kobra 2 MAX until something comes along that will also let me print at least ASA and provides hardened steel nozzles as an option. This will probably be Bambu, albeit at a much higher price. 3DJake has this machine on offer for only € 363 at the moment.
Very neat printer but I love cheap secondhand printers I know I love working on them and fixing them ❤
i habe 5 3d primters , all bought secondhand, never have i encountered the issues i encountered with this brand new sidewinder x4 pro ......ridiculous.....fresh out the box, 6 prints in encountered issues lol. the auto bed leveling is simply trash.
Great video as always. I'm considering the Anycubic Kobra 2 MAX for a print farm (I already bought one), BUT, the wi-fi printing only being available over the cloud will likely (and unfortunately) send me back to their competitors. Also, they might get a return. We will see. @ANYCUBIC3D
Thanks for the video! I’ve been looking at the Elegoo Neptune 4 Max, but the Kobra seems like a better deal overall.
I think the same
Your website is awesome and this review is so freaking thorough. So useful! Assuming one was in the market for a large 3D printer along these lines, do you think it is worth waiting to see if something else hits the market that can beat this machine? What are your predictions?
Great video Aurora. I’ve been using this printer daily for almost a month now and it is okay, but is much to closed off for its current abilities. This printer is quite decent when printing in PLA but it’s annoying that everything is geared toward printing in PLA on it; all calibrations and are hard coded so can’t optimize the calibration for PETG which needs to be printed at higher temps; also more calibration points for a print bed this large would be much better; would be nice if their firmware allowed the ability to specify the inputs on their calibrations; some feedback for anycubic if you have a contact with them
Awesome review, I seen this printer being used from another YTber and I am interested. The price point isn't bad. I like the size that it allows, going to use this for printing RC 1:10 scale parts and bodies. I was wondering about spare parts and the filament tube about it's longevity. Als meant to ask, how many times did you have to clean or prep the bed
Hi Aurora and Helios, I have one (or more) question(s) for you. Considering you have reviewed and accumulated so many printers, I am wondering if you have been able to test them over a longer period of time to determine which ones continue to work well versus ones that degrade or even cease functioning? In my own experience, most printers that have poor quality components tend to fail within a 30-day period of just occasional use. I am not suggesting that you run up your electric bill with unnecessary printing but even running a stress test of a very long print lasting several days might provide some insight on component wear, misalignment propensity, or build quality degradation. And if this happens, I wonder how good their support of their products would be via phone, text chat or email. So, if you ever wanted to add value to your exceptionally great content, this might provide you with a way to revisit printers you have reviewed to see if they are still worth the cost of ownership after extended use. Thanks!
thanks for the review. I just purchased this printer from MicroCenter for $399. Hope I made a good decision.
I hope my anycubic kobra 2 max coming tomorrow 😃
thank you, you prevented me from wasting my money! since it is not even possible to drive it via USB from Octoprint, i can not run it, since internet is not always reliable here.
Thanks for the review decided to buy one.
Ive heard from some people normal nozzles still work is this something you wpuld be willing to test?
Excellent video as always. Please smile more, I miss that cheerful young lady from Danville California. 😊
Anycubic was my goto printer manufacturer but I just got a new kobra plus with screen rebooting issue. Can you suggest a user forum that can help me troubleshoot the problem? I found your channel today and subscribed. I look forward to your future videos.
I hope AnyKubic opens up their hardware…it would transform these Kobra series printers. Assuming they don’t use a noisy motor like mine has.
I also think their leveling may be a little flawed. I’ve had to live adjust my Z on occasion.
When's the video on the elegoo Neptune 4 plus coming out?
Hey I think this needs to be linked on your 3D printer comparison spreadsheet. The one on your website. Thanks for doing this!
It's on the list, just search for 'kobra 2 max' in the search box and you will find it.
@@AuroraTech right, but this UA-cam video is not linked to the printer when the printer comes up. The UA-cam logo button you guys use to signify you’ve made a review video about it is missing.
Hello, I just bought this printer and I m glad I found this amazing video! I was looking for nozzles in amazon and apart from what you showed, I found others that didnt have the ''butt'' in the end(volcano style). However, some people said that it worked for their kobra 2 printers. You think there is no chance a volcano nozzle fits this printer without any hotend modifications? thanks
I was going to buy a kobra max 2, but i have a kobra max that I can't find parts for, so I fear the same will hold true for the kobra max 2. PS. I really like your channel, I haven't watched it more than a hand full of times, but i do like your reviews, and I Think you have the best channel out there.
Great video! I like that you print so much tests and it claimed outstandingly!!! I am maybe considering buying a Anycubic Kobra 2 Max, but this closed wifi is a compromise… I also think it is difficult to calibrate Input shaping at higher print heights, but maybe via algorithms they can compensate it better. One Tipp I would give, before autoleveing, let the heatbed heat up for somelike 15min so it can deform how it would while printing, as if you do so the levelling is much more accurate. I have heard other creators talking about this. How long btw. does it take to heat up the bed and nozzle?
Sorry for my language
Heating up the nozzle is fast; it takes around 1.5 minutes to go from room temperature to 220°C. However, all DC powered large beds heat up slow. It takes 7-8 minutes to go from room temperature to 60°C and 18-20 minutes to reach the maximum temperature of 90°C.
I totally agree with you on the rubbish wifi and closed shop...:-( Mine is going back despite all its good points
I have the Kobra max. I modded the cooling duct and converted it to a direct drive. I have zero problems as I'm using this for mass production vs volume. I was really hoping they'd go with a true direct drive however I may get this anyway. Thank you.
surprised these "new" models dont come with direct drive..i was surprised to find the same abt the shit x4pro i bought that is going back to them tomorrow; refundddd!!!
@CommentThink I just posted a video on my other channel unboxing and putting together this printer, the Kobra 2 max. Definitely has a direct drive and uses the bowden as a guide from the spool and runout sensor to the extruder. I did my first print last night and this is a great printer.
@@shadowmosesmusic sheeeeesh, im receving my kobra 2 max sundaayyyyyy (ordered after watching the reviewww)
Have you had a chance to do a firmware upgrade? and if so have you noticed any improvements to the bed leveling? Also is the PEI sheet reversable and usable on its spring steel side if there is one? I usually use glass for my prints for a smoother finish. Again thank you for this review.
I have three of them now. The problem I have is with large prints taking up to 10 KG of filament. The lower layers can print fast but above 1KG +- .5 kg you need to slow it down, because it will JUMP and print off sometimes up to 6 mm, but mostly about 1.5 mm. It could be the Y motor need to be aligned to the exact magnetic position of that motor. If you are halfway in between the motor 1.8 deg motion, you are in limbo and it will slip to align with it. I have not figured out how to set that. I have now 4 completely worthless prints. I will keep on trying different settings. But maybe it is the dimension of the part does not lend itself to a precise 1.8 deg motor setting. But this Kobra 2 Max is amazing on under 1 KG. I keep trying to print at 230 MM/ sec and huge prints, do not work. So, have to slow it down after the first 1KG roll.
Awesome video! They just dropped new firmware this week, 2.3.9, did you use this for the first layer test?
I believe this update also allow filament color change m600 I believe.
bytlan here, have you ever done the endurance testing of these 3d FDM printers. I have a list of machines I have bought over the years and they all have failed. (um, the motors all still working fine individually, but left in the board, they just crap out) Some I've replaced the mobo's (up to 3) times and never got a print or would flash correctly. others I've run and got only small prints to work when they were to 300mm mark sizes. Davinci enclosed ($500) was my first machine - ABS great... Anet was next, the build was crap till I did the rebuild on those plastic frames (8bit) and got like 1-1/2+ years before a mobo went and replaced. And the list of machines bought just all failed after only a couple of months to a 2 year run on 1 and they don't make anymore. I have 2 machines currently still running prints OK. None of them are Klipper. Not that I haven't tried to convert just not figured out the install to work. I am rather convinced they are all designed to fail - chips preprogramed to do that (designed obsolescence is a known engineering process). I am at either hot mail or yahoo if your interested in my results. I've written the many companies and the results are equally so disappointing. Also a few China UA-camrs who were posting on much of the same products of your site and channel shows she did and would do more with open source is no longer posting. I've found out the GOV have blocked them from future posting. Also many companies get emails blocked as they claim nothing received, yet nothing of failed email delivery replies or returned to me information. The knowing of good machine performance is good information as you post quite well but the endurance and even service reply is still quite a lot of left to be desired. You as a promoter may not get these results. warranty often does not exist for anything purchased from China, it does not exist. Thank you! Please keep posting as I do enjoy them - even your flubs are good to see you as a real person. Not much known of your brother though... just keep it up and your posted www site. Thankx...
Love your reviews. Between this and the Flsun V400, which one would you pick? (If those were the only two options). And why?
If those were the only 2 options, I will get the Kobra 2 Max. The FLSUN V400 is a good machine, but it's too tall for that print volume (300x300x410). Its actual print volume is 150x150x3.14x410 = 28,966,500mm³, which is 24% smaller than a 300x300x400=36,000,000mm³ CR-10 style bed slinger as the V400 is a cylinder. I would rather keep a large machine like this Kobra 2 Max 420x420x500=88,200,000mm³ with a 3.04 times larger print volume with a lower price.
Hey, it is possible to add any video about hardware tweaking for bed slingers? (ie Kobra 2 Max?)
Great review!
One minor nit, I think: the little cleaning block is made of silicone, not silicon, I presume. Pure silicon is a hard mineral. Silicone is family of oils and rubbery polymers.
Carefull with the auto Z-Offset. Mine was set 2mm to low, scratching the bed before I caught it, du to plastic being on the nozzel. The offset sensing works over conductiveness and the wiping doesn't work propperly, so filament residue can mak the leveling fail without any indication, ramming the nozzel into the bed.
I've got two of these Kobra 2 Maxes and the printers are great, but the prusaslicer profile just isn't working for me. Which profiles did you use for testing - the one in their default PS install on the USB, the one in the suggest profile folder on the USB, the one on their website, or something else? Using the profile with the included install of PS slices a benchy for me in 48m.
"I use the one on the USB drive, which prints at 230mm/s. It works fine with my test prints, except I slowed it down on the screen using stable mode (~150mm/s) when printing the tolerance test.
You can download the PrusaSlicer print profile I used and all the G-code files I printed in this video here:
auroratechchannel.com/download/Kobra2Max.zip
Also can you please make a video for buying guide?
I think you should be using the exact same filament among all printers for most accurate results as filaments really vary in quality/ flow/ temps etc.
Great video. Using the Kobra 2 Max for a month, the auto leveling works pretty bad on the edge of the print bed, especially on the left, which is the same as your result. They get too close on the left and too far on the bottom right. Any suggestion to improve the bed leveling? With no adjust knob, this is just something I cannot fix.
Also, the nozzle seems wear out fast for the one comes with the printer, strongly recommend to change to hardensteel nozzle.
Check your gantry distance from the bottom to the bed (I used the Rook for Kobra 2 max on printables) can use anything that allows you to check the distance tho; mine was off about 2mm from right to left, the rook gave me a stable surface to be able to level from
I've heard of soneone putting sticky notes under the bed to shim.
Hi Aurora, wow you know your stuff. I am trying to find a multi color 3d printer to make a multi color product that is 18 inches by 4 inches by 1 inch. What would you recommend?
I made the mistake of not waiting long enough and buying a cr-10 s5 as my first 3d printer... they dropped in price dramatically.
Welcome to the club. During the time you would have been waiting, you were actually printing and having fun, hopefully. The worst plan is to buy a printer (because it's on sale for example), and then not use it for like a year, because by that time there will be better printers out for less money. And the last year of so of new printers has proved that in spades. I don't know that we'll see innovation as rapid in the coming year, though. We may have reached another plateau for awhile. Bambu Lab really set the new standard.
Yeah… looking at what I spent on my first printer is embarrassing today😊… My wife definitely hasn’t forgotten 🤦♂️.
I bought a kobra 2 and less than one month and a half and they come up with the Kobra 2 Pro with Klipper 😅
@@TheBlitzGen8832 I thought one of her complaints here was lack of Klipper
Hello. Where did you get the printer profile? Can you give the settings for the 2 max printer?
I got it and I do have overextrusion on first layer, underextrusion on last layer and problems with temps of bed. also rosa pla (about 20$/kg) prints terrible no matter what temps or speed I use, but colorfil pla (about 12$/kg) looks good. this is my first 3d printer and idk what to do. Could you give me some advices what i can do to make my prints better?
I’m having issues with layer shifts and they range from minor to extreme I’ve tried everything from loosening to tightening belts to tightening the screws and the pulleys everything
Hello! How do you do the “calibration” you were referring too?
Were you talking about esteps and flow rate? Because i cant for the life of me figure out how to calibrate those.
Seems i cant even connect the printer to my computer?
Any info would be so helpful
Amazing size, seems like a good printer for the price, but I noticed it's loud. It's annoying that lots of 3d printer manufacturers don't focus on the fan noise
The heat break can be swapped to a viper one, so one can use standard volcano nozzels.
Can it really?? Thank you so much for that info!
@@SynthaPak I haven't done the swap to the bimetal heatbreak yet, but the dimensions are the exact same. You will need a bit of ptfe tube between the heatbrake end and the extruder gears.
The new heatbrake just has a cylindrical recess at the hot side, in which the ac nozzels set into but I don't see the reason for this.
Can you make some tutorials for 3d beginners on software and setup?
Hi if you want to print ABS can you upgrade the heat bed
so Huge. I would need to use it 3d Print a table a table for it self.
Is it true that Kobra2 series don't work with OctoPrint? I'd like to remote monitor the printer, and more importantly do timelapse video.
OOOooofph now I am much happier I bought an elegoo neptune max those cons are all deal killers!!! plus it's a $120 cheaper with the $30 off discount code.. well that stopped my drooling over a K-2Max for one of my next printer's think I will just focus on getting a few Bambu's next, really to bad this printer would have been awesome to add in my collection...
And how can you fix the fiaurr in corner for the flat piece in pla??????
What do you recommend between this and Elegoo Neptune 4 Max, and why?
How about the best printer for abs
Hello! I wanna ask what’s the z offset you use? Mine keep fell down for some reason, the support tree and first layer not sticky enough. I use default z offset 0.01mm
I just finished returning this printer. I started a large scale print and the printer died one tenth of the way into it was not able to power it back on. Very disspointed. Upgraded to a Qidi X Max3
Thank you for saving my money. If they want me to use their cloud nonsense then that tells me this printer will be an expensive doorstop after a decade. I'll be checking your other reviews.
Someone will likely release an alternative firmware to sidestep that by then
@@Max_JanszenAt the prices these large printers go for, I wouldn't risk it. I'd rather just use something like the Neptune 4 Max which support open source firmwares.
The smaller version has it's firmware on GitHub now so they probably open source after a certain amount of time.
Wonder what items can be printed in such a big size (420x420x500mm) when ABS/Nylon/Polycarbonate can't be used.
better buy this or the elegoo neptune 4 max?
I think that another issue that this printer doesn't have is that print resume when the power goes out too. I thought it had it when I bought it, but it does not.
I bought the printer after watching this video. Now I'm wondering if there is any way of adjusting the rotation of XYZ steppers and the eSteps. If anyone knows a way, please guide me.
And its on sale now for $519! I just grabbed one ;)
Oh, and free shipping!
399 at microcenter...just got it....lots of issues so far though
Any way to calibrate extrusion?
Did ya oil the linear rods and u wheels? They can wear.
Does it print via internet without using their slicer interface/ app? Not my tea there really. Might be cool ig if free.
Overall, hardware looks great otherwise. The 'llama' print had some odd z lines, compared to the others but time was zippy fast.
Darn...lost me with the lower extruder temperature and proprietary firmware... I was leaning toward this over the Neptune 4 Max but I really need a higher temp hot end and it doesn't sound easy to upgrade...
Between this and the Neptune 4 max I'm getting the impression that bedslinger designs are not the best approach for build volumes that large. Perhaps Bambu will be the ones to once again innovate in this space.
Large core-XY printers will always cost a lot. Bambu will not be exception - at first at least, when they can sell premium model with with premium price, waiting for clones and need for cheaper variants 😄
What do you set your z height at
the link of the test seems to be broken could u send it again?
I'm confused by your rating system. I'm looking for the best large 3d printer but this is the only large sized 3D printer on your website or did I miss something? I would like to point out I am blind and my reader was having trouble with your website.
Hi, I have enjoyed watching many of your videos and respect your advice. I have to say I bought a Kobra 2 Max and had several problems with it ranging for failing on every ABS print I tried, to just randomly stopping during 3 prints, to having the unit dig a hole into the build plate twice, to having several problems with the Z axis settings. I was unable to get any useful help from their customer service dept. Other than automated messages saying that an engineer would contact me, I really got almost no responses to support tickets or emails. Now, I have sent several emails and a support request over the last few days asking for an RMA and shipping address to return the product and I get nothing. This is not a reliable product or company from what I have experienced.
I know this is a huge printer for the price, but if it does not work, it is a huge, pretty expensive doorstop.
Just a follow up, no way to return the unit as per their policy. They either ignore your email or give you a canned response. No phone number to call. No meaningful help. I am sure you get outstanding responses from their customer service department, but the rest of us are treated like a disease they are trying to stay away from. I can’t believe that they are so busy they do not have time to answer an email with a request to return the product, or even that they are having problems. I know this printer is very large for the price, but, if you cannot make it work and you cannot return it, it is just a BIG rip-off !!! They rely on you and your community to do the marketing and provide support for their product. Seems a lot to expect for a few hundred dollar printer.
dear hello does kobra 2 max has a resume option ?
Would it be possible to review the creality ender 3 V3 ke
Coming soon, by the end of Dec or early Jan.
You'd think that its ABL would do a better job on the first layer. Hmm.
How to connect this printer to PC, I want to configure "Axis Steps", it seems to be impossible, there is no way to make the connection :(
I'm interested, however, the whole connectivity thing is an issue. I use GNU/Linux exclusively, and that includes my smartphone (Pinephone/Mobian/Kde), so using an android app is negative. If I have no android connectivity, how does one update the firmware? Download it to a USB drive and flash it this way?
Coming from the machining world, and having actually seen (and felt) these in action, the shaking while in motion is just crazy to watch. Have others tried to rigidize this/these? The Z axis frame seems a bit anemic based on the motions involved. This has to affect print quality tolerance in some way.
They use input shaping on new printers so the vibrations are compensated for through software.
However having used a printer that doesn't have input shaping it's not that bad, it just adds a kinda subtle change in colours usually like a sub texture in each layer. With pearlescent materials it kinda looks nice.
You cann clearly see that at 19:20 that the nozzle is crooked