US🇺🇸 vs. Canada🇨🇦 Healthcare…Which one’s better?
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
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This has lawyas been an ongoing debate about which Healthcare system is better, the US or Canada. Both have their good and bad. Having used both, my personal opinion is that you can't buy the kind of peace of mind free healthcare comes with, so I choose Canada. But which do you prefer?
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No 🧢 I waited 3 hours in a emergency room with like 3 other people only 1 of the lady's were literally crying in pain, some homeless guy then walked up to her and said throw yourself on the floor they'll help you immediately never had so much respect for a junkie
Ps she did it and got immediate help
It’s now…. Bc of lack of staff.
I got into the ER in Abbotsford at 9 pm last June after a major shoulder injury, immediately got x-rays because they suspected head or neck trauma, but after they realized that my head was fine, I was triaged to the very bottom and waited until about 5 am. I was sobbing on the floor because the seats hurt too much to sit in but wasn't even offered a sling until I begged for one and when I finally saw the doc he said it'd only take two weeks to heal. Since I wasn't able to move my shoulder to the right position for the x-rays, the x-rays ended up being very misguiding and the injury was actually bad enough that I'm still not clear for sports yet 8 months later :( biggest thing I learned is you gotta advocate for yourself like crazy in this country!
@sma4827 100% bro it's all fucked up if I get really sick I'm headed to Germany fuck this place 🫸🏾
@@sma4827 Aw, I hope you can recover soon! Do you have followups with a doctor about the injury?
😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
I'm a nurse in Canada and u wait so long in the room to see the doctor even I have gone snooping through the drawers and cupboards....my kids get so embarrassed 🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦😂😂😂
We all do this in Canada. It's all unlocked for this reason.
@@nasraelmi9142 ummm u ever hear of taxes? Nothing is free
I have never done this ....now I am curious🤔🤣
@Eric you are very uneducated
It’s worse now bc of Covid and the lack of staff…. But it wasn’t like that before.
I always go late to my appointments in Canada because I know my doctors will still not be there to see me on time😂
I remember waiting like almost 2 hours just to see my doctor for 15 minutes. Shits wild
@@fatkid420 see that's just criminal in my opinion. Sure healthcare here is expensive (I wouldn't know all my visits are free including any/all dental work) but I'd rather pay a bit more to be seen as soon as my butt cheek hits the chair.
Socialized healthcare. Ever been to Cuba? Cuba is a socialist/communist system. In Cuba you have to pay before you get services, anywhere, because at the end of the day they get paid either way. The government pays their salaries, so they can screw around all they want. There is no big boss to supervise them. In other words, they'll make you wait.
In a private system doctors need to have good time management skills, like any other private sector job, or else they'd lose their job. Time is $$$. If I didn't have good time management on my job I'd be fired on the spot! Same principle with doctors within private healthcare. Clinic and hospitals don't like low ratings on Google, etc. They are constantly pushing their employees to give good services and move their butts! That's why it works way better. The doctors aren't running the show. Their bosses/administration are. And they're not being paid by the State but rather insurance companies who are constantly down their backs. Insurance companies don't like doctors who waste their money. That's why services are better and they don't do half A jobs.
what a bunch of whiners. you'd be fucked if you lived in the states..if you're unhappy then go live there
@@sebastienbolduc5654 1) why couldn't we just implement some form of auditing process to make the docs are meeting quotas? 2) it's not slow here in Canada because the doctors are paid salary which makes them lazy (which often isn't even true, most are paid per patient), it's mainly slow here in Canada bc we have a huge shortage of doctors because many of them go to med school here where it's cheaper and then move to the states where they can make so much more by charging insane amounts and Canada doesn't recognize a medical doctorate degree from a large portion of the world so we can't even promote immigration to help
I’d rather wait a hour and not be in financial debt
@@Blackout____ I don’t do you need to live in America to speak on issues to do with it? I’m not Canadian either. I’m British and I’ve had to wait 2 days before but I’d rather do that than go into medical debt.
@@Demonoicgamer666 What about insurance/coverage. Before I turned 21 I was covered by my parents dental plan they had through their work. After your appointment they’d just take your information and send the bill to the insurance company.
And I would gladly pay $50 to cut that wait in half. See what I'm getting at? Healthcare doesn't have to cost exuberant amounts of money nor does it have to take ages. I have a feeling we're getting screwed.
@@anonymouse527 $50 is a lot for a hour and I reckon you’re paying $100 on the low end 500 on the high end just to see them for half hour is $250 for 30 minutes visit worth it sure it’s your health but most people can’t afford that.
@@jeff3388 yeah spending money on something that most of the time you don’t need you still have to pay at least 10% so let’s say your bill is $5000 you’re paying $500 that in the moment may not look like a big deal but when you realise you still got bills to pay rent $600 electric, water and gas add up to $450 then you got to buy food to begging of the month and you have already spent $1550 out of $2000 a month $300 for food depending on if you go out leaving you with $150 to enjoy and you then have car insurance and fuel which leaves you with at best $50 for yourself although you may need to pay your healthcare coverage which puts you in debt for $50. $500 may not look like you’ll need but just wait.
You know waiting times are shorter in the US? Because so many people don't go to the doctor because of how expensive it is.
Sadly thats true😢😂
exactly, this entire comment section doesn’t realize that
@@shronkthestupendous4737 only a rich person or a person who doesn't live in the US could say such a preposterous statement.
Thank you for saying that. People just forget that part and just start talking down on socialized healthcare. In America your a customer not a patient in hospitals. I had to wait 4-5 hours to see a doctor and i had to wait in the hallway on a bed (never got a room) in under extreme chest pain in America. And let’s just say they didn’t do jack sht about the pain and slapped 27k. It took a year to fix the bill with my insurance company because they really don’t want to help people.
@@shronkthestupendous4737 if you're a Canadian then you realize emergencies are prioritized and you don't have to pay out of pocket for the procedures.
In Canada you wait a long time.
In USA you sell your car to pay the bills.
in socialism people who need health come first, in capitalism people who have money come first.
in socialism the homeless person who has had an accident takes precedence over the millionaire because he needs help more than the millionaire who just has a flu.
but in capitalism the millionaire comes first, he doesn't need to queue because he can pay the hospital bills, and he doesn't need to queue with the homeless.
because the homeless person never came to the hospital in the first place in capitalism. because it's useless to come only to be rejected because you can't pay the health costs.
so make more money
In Canada, doctors also assisted suicide because they don’t want to treat patients
@@Hottdogg1234nah i prefer waiting, also stop using the insurance excuse it’s annoying
@@UkrainemasterXcant see the comment you are replying to. How does that work? Sorry thats unrelated to your comment but your comment is also unrelated from where im sitting 😂
Id rather wait 8 hours than pay 8 thousand.
You are still paying that 8 thousand through high taxes so whats the point?
@@truthseekingtroll3575 and it’s not as big as you make it seem. I get far more out of my health care than I pay towards it.
Good for you . Why shouting here . I would rather pay . At least not soul crushing texes . I can afford things and you cant . Welll
My Canadian friend has cancer and is getting treated here in the US because she would’ve had to wait 6 months for treatment. And that’s a normal wait time for medical things like that in countries with free healthcare
@@twstdrealitymy mother in the United States had to wait 3 days for an xray for her broken foot, I had to wait a month for a video visit with my doctor, when I scheduled an in person visit for first thing in the morning when the doctor’s office opened I still had to wait a half an hour for the doctor.
Canada " You feel pain.. have you tried EUTHANASIA?"
I prefer United States healthcare, and I’ll tell you why. My job covers 85% of the total cost. Sometimes I can see the doctor for free and if I go see a specialist I literally pay the price of a movie ticket. The bonus is that I can see the doctor the same day that I start feeling my symptoms. I’ll pay 30 bucks to see the doctor the same day that my tooth starts hurting as opposed to it being free and not being able to go for a month.
....is it including the medication? because in our 3rd world poor country, 100% covered means that....100%.
@@nurlindafsihotang49 meds vary. I may get it for free or i may pay up to 10 bucks or so…but again, i can see the doctor, and get my meds for free or maybe 10 bucks at max…on the same day i get my symptoms. Ill take that over 100 percent fee but i have to wait until god knows when…probably after im already dead and the infection has spread
You don't know how many people would sacrifice to gain your position..
@augustusx82 damn bro, good for you. Which company do you work for? What type of industry to get these perks?
If you had universal healthcare instead of paying your medical bills your company could just pay you more money.
And employer-paid healthcare is a trap used to control workers. You can't leave a bad job because if you do you no longer have health insurance.
Canada’s healthcare: “Giving Birth? Go home” - based on a story of something that happened recently
Anerica’s healthcare: “yea we’ll help you, but it will be costly”
more like “but it’ll cost your house” 💀
@@milaliah don't buy sh*t insurance
A secret that everyone knows but nobody talks about.... the bill that the hospital sends you is their "wish list". If they get any of that amount paid they're thankful, and if you pay 20% they practically send a sexy nurse to your house to give you a complimentary sponge bath.
Bruh
@@jgwill Just like the hospital bills medical insurance is overpriced, especially the premiums.
You forgot that the American one has a crap ton of paperwork.
And a lot of money down the drain
@@stingsdoesntit5390Doctors aren’t non-profit, pay up. Also, the paper work is for a good reason usually. (Keeping records of important shit, etc.)
@@ulacylon-timetrio9664LOL you’re definitely American 😂😂
@@ulacylon-timetrio9664erm. Oh sure. Heres your 728182737281 T $ for a bandaid..yep..sure enough. And oh, i have to sign 40 hours worth of paperwork for one singular benadryl..yep..wow. sure efficient...
@marcusianaviation9372 yea the paper work is for records
In Canada when I had major emergencies, (example colic due to stones in the kidneys and vesicles) a half an hour after my arrival in the emergency room was already being treated. But certainly if the pain is bearable the waiting time can be 4-5h.
In Portugal it's the same
More like 18h. Check the recent hospital wait times in Ottawa.
It’s the same in the US but we pay more for it. We have to wait a long time in the ER too if what we have is not life threatening.
and that is to be expected. this is an emergency but not a life threatening issue. you were placed in priority. honestly seems more like an urgent care visit but along as it was addressed that's all that matters.
Atleast in the USA I don’t have to wait months to get screened for cancer only to find out it’s too late. I got health insurance anyway so that mostly covers it.
that still happens in the US, but you also have to pay more than you would in tax whether you have cancer or not.
Living in Canada all my life, and in multiple cities across the country….the sweet spot is to have Canada’s healthcare system in a mid-size town with no more than 500-800K in population. Once you hit something like 1mil, or the GTA (multi-city or tri-city), the wait times and service gets worse.
I'm in Charlottetown, and the wait time is horrendous, and the population is 35K.
Thank God I live in south surrey
You only have like 9 million more people than Texas in the whole country.
The fact that any of you have to wait is embarrassing.
Barrie, ON 100k pop and allistion, ON 20k i've waited min 4 hours. the health care system is broken and all the doctors have gone to the US.
in Revelstoke, you ask to see a doctor early in the morning 7- 7:30 and you’ll see the doctor within the next two hours same day, which is fantastic!
Ah so different in Japan.. here u need to come 5 mins earlier prior to your appointment and all the staff and nurses were really nice!
Japan is built different
@@H8njiyeah and their crimes against humanity committed all throughout Asia
@@MegaMinecrafteFan Okay and? A lot of developed countries were responsible for atrocities. You know why? Because they were capable of it, technologically or otherwise.
Go to southeast Asia today and tell me that not one person is willing to pawn off their 14 year old daughter to a sex trafficker for a wad of cash, and tell me that all cops would prevent it over taking a bribe. Go to a random tribe in the Amazon, sub-saharan African, or Papua New Guinea and tell me that none of them practice ritual human sacrifices, believe in child witches, and regularly consume human flesh. Yeah, people everywhere can be backwards. Let’s not ignore that.
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@@MegaMinecrafteFan that was during ww2. Imperial japan
The Canadian visit to the hospital made me laugh because it's true I Myself pace around the room touching things when I get tired a lay down take a power nap and wait for the doctor
You’re hilarious!!! I’m a Nurse and I know people play with the instruments in the room 😂♥️
hahha oh ya!
Lol! I am honestly always so scared I’d get caught!!… eve wanted to! 😊
I like reading the medical posters on the wall.
Well if they give supposedly free “healthcare” people treat it like a fast food joint instead of a doctors office. In the US we respect the medical office supplies and furniture.
U act like we're savages for being curious...go clutch your pearls somewhere else while you get scammed by your hospital
Canada has really bad Healthcare my mother had cancer and they kept postponing her treatments and now shes dead but they never should have kept pushing back when she had cancer. Wouldnt have a problem paying for treatment at all if she got the treatment right away.
Did you consider travelling to the US for care?
It’s unfortunate she died but at least she didn’t have to spend any extra money other than her lifetime of taxes.
Yeah..it’s crazy how bad health care is right now. They have such a shortage and the people that actually work are over worked. My moms a doctor in Canada and she sees hundreds of patients.. I’m sorry for you loss.
yup they treated my Grandfather for pneumonia for a year then said oops its cancer and its to far gone nothing we can do
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In Canada you pay for it in taxes, whether you use it or not. The equivalent of every citizen paying $7,000 per year. And it is not health care, it is health rationing.
Yeah, that's also how US insurance works you still pay even if you don't use it.
And the average American is paying $13,000 a year in healthcare costs. So we pay more than the Canadians.
I would love to pay *only* $7,000 a year, are you kidding?!
My insurance is decent and cheap, and costs $9,600 / year (employer "pays half" instead of paying me, and then the other half I pay out of my paycheck, so it's about $800/month), and then there's the $2,500 deductible before they start paying for any treatments.
When I left one job they offered me COBRA - which "let's you" keep your employer insurance as long as you pay the full cost. It would have been $1,200 a month, or $14,000 a year! That's ¢14,400 that could have gone into my pocket, instead, and then I'd only have to give $7,000 to the state? Sign me TF up!
@@MC-yt1uv13k is cap I pay 3k per year for a family. Unless its in California 😂
You're not allowed to say that sir.
Reminds me of that episode of Mr. Bean, at the dentist.
Take care, and all the best.
Yes youre right!
What a lie. Dual citizen here and uh...the majority of the US (over 80% has employer insurance (similar to Bismarck models in Japan, Germany, France).
Public sector programs are indeed funded by tax dollars: Medicaid, State Chip, ACA, Veterans and portions of Medicare. Yes, I'm an advocate of streamlining these and having non profit insurance orgs administer them as done in other countries that use Bismarck models for their public sector.
Lost my mom in BC Canada to Cancer last year and the wait times for the diagnostic imaging were horrendous. She was a nurse her entire life who paid her taxes for over 50 years and didn't get to see the Oncologist even once before dying. It was like a 3rd world country.
Canada's system is collapsing right now and is so bad its being dragged to the Supreme Court of Canada as they have had 30 years to fix the crisis, yet nothing changes. Public sector needs: patient focused funding instead of block payments, user fees, cut the administrative bloat and move to a Bismarck model with non-profit health insurance orgs.
Last - allow the private sector to fully run alongside the public sector. It's the 21st century and Canada is now the last remaining country on planet earth that makes it illegal for its citizens to purchase private health insurance for ALL services covered under Provincial Medicare. Canadian citizens deserve what every other social democracy provides their citizens: A CHOICE.
This is such a well-stated comment. I am very sorry for what happened to your mother. And I agree, the Canadian public health system needs a ton of work. The problem also is: Canadians have such a myopic view about the rest of the world vs. their own country (in many different ways). Many believe Canada's universal health care system works, and vehemently oppose private health care because of what they read on the news in the U.S. Ontario Premier Doug Ford has hinted at introducing some elements of private healthcare to supplement the universal health care system, and as soon as he did people lost their minds. A system that combines both as you said would only help.
Watch when you say 3rd world country 😊
I’m an Indian citizen living in the United States and I promise that the health care in India is a 1000 times better than the US! I have been to the ER, Urgent Care and just the normal docs and everything, I kid you not, everything is better in India! I don’t know what I am doing in the states 😢 💰?
@@amoghtayade481
In the US, the healthcare you receive, depends on which State you reside in.
In terms of medical innovation such as breakthrough procedures & lifesaving medication, & research, statistically there is not one country in the world that compares to the U.S.
That is not to brag, that is just a statistical fact. The U.S. also collaborates with other countries on research.
I understand, now after living here, that the U.S. needs to treat healthcare differently due to its leading position in medical innovation which is derived from a great deal of capital investment.
Ironically, other countries with socialized medicine, have no problem using these breakthroughs & innovations but then turn around and criticize the U.S. for not having nationwide Universal Healthcare. It’s like biting off the hand that feeds them.
Is BC’s wait time significantly much longer and has gotten much worse? I’m in Ontario, it doesn’t seem to be thhaaat bad, yes sometimes you have to wait for a long time to see a specialist, or wait in the emergency room for 3-4 hrs if your are not dying in the next 10 min. I heard cancer patients do get good treatment and don’t need to pay nearly as much as in the US. Also I used to live in China, the system there is much much faster then Canada but the quality of service is really bad, it’s like going to a super super busy shopping market, with doctors and nurses shouting at you, being super impatient coz they have to deal with sooo many people at the same time. I much more prefer to see a doctor in Canada.
And sorry about your mom! It looks like a problem in BC, I’m not sure if it’s the same here in Ontario, I hope not.
People in the comments are under estimating the wait times in Canada. If you go into Emerg in ontario with lets say a broken bone, your looking at least 6 to 10 hours.
250 billion per year in tax money for our "free" medical".
Exactly....its not "free". Its just not as transparent, as in say Germany where 16-19% comes off your gross pay each month. On the plus side, I can walk into my local doctor's office the same day or just show up to see my GP and book an MRI in a week.
I would support lowering general personal income taxes but introducing/increasing Medicare insurance premiums so that people are more understanding that it’s not “free”. Also, it would prevent some provinces from use federal healthcare transfers for other things. If that goes to a provincial health insurance pool that is separate from general provincial income/expenses it could lead to more accountability in government spending.
Pay big bucks to see a dr right away or wait 8 hrs to see one that you paid 15% taxes. Hard one
Only even when you pay the big bucks, unless they're *seriously* big bucks, you still have to wait.
I feel like it may not be too far apart when you count we have to pay premiums and a deductible before insurance actually kicks in. The main thing we got against themis less wait times and more specialized doctors....and Freedom! lol
@@RaiderNation126 See, as someone who lived in the US for many years, I don't get the "freedom" bit. In the US, I was limited to the doctors included in my insurance plan. In the UK & Spain, I'm limited to the doctors in my neighbourhood. And in any country, if I'm unhappy with the choices and have the money, I can go private. So how is there "more freedom" in the US?
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I feel you but I meant it as a joke lol. In the states when you're just yelling USA or freedom it's. Usually to make fun of our extreme form of nationalism with the pledge of allegiance and all that you know lol.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 Canada, hands down.
Don't drink the U.S. koolaid.
Free health care and most prescriptions are covered or partially covered here in Saskatchewan Canada 🇨🇦
Unless you're depressed in which case the government will offer to kill you
Pretty certain it's not "free". I'm guessing you're paying insurance.
Same as here in Germany. I often hear from uninformed Americans that we have "free health care". It's not true at all. We pay insurance fees and it's quite expensive in fact. Around 15 % of our income.
We do not pay for health care. Ambulance fees apply unless you are on a low income government program. We do not pay for emergency services or surgeries, X Ray's, MRI'S, or any other medical testing. Some prescriptions are government covered or a very small fee is paid. Saskatchewan has had free coverage for many decades.
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My ass is free
i end up waiting here in the US as well...
So do I- in The USA.
It can be years.
Same, once in my old town of less than 180k population the ER wait was 19 hours.
I'd rather wait and not pay
@@ranjesound6768Lmao I’m so glad I grew up in the Central Valley of California. There’s only 60,000 People where I live and it’s actually a pretty developed place. I’ve never had to wait long for care or anything like that
Bud goes to the wrong healthcare facility
Here in the US I recently had to wait 6 months to see a doctor as a new patient. Didn’t get seen until over an hour past my appt time. As I was waiting, another woman was very upset to find out how much she’d have to pay for some scans they did on her. Said she couldn’t afford it and she had insurance. My eye drops are $1,900 every three months and I have insurance. We have the best healthcare but most Americans can’t afford to get it.
Blatant lies. If you waited 6 months, you didnt bother to find a quicker appointment. And no, your eyedrops are not $1900 every 3 months (that would exceed the maximum OOP as outlined by federal law).
You lie to strangers online to pretend you’re a victim. Seek psychiatric help.
Hahaha so very true! I went to my orthopaedic surgeon today. 6 xrays and the consult - zero dollars. Wished him a merry Christmas and went home!
How long did it take to see him though?
Yea & how much do they take from you in taxes each year!? 😂😂 No such thing as "free healthcare"
@@bvpmiranda oo just saw this lol mmm three weeks?
@@TrudeausBlackFace still less than most Americans spend on medical bills a year
@@zombiewolf1671 Sure. For average 4+ hours ER wait times & subpar care. Cause it's "free". People dying while "waiting" for a surgery that takes 2-3 years to take place. People dying while waiting for a doc in the emergency rooms. No, thanks. I'd rather pay for quality care.
In Canada, you have to wait even longer to get a procedure. My surgeon told me I might have to wait over a year to get my nose fixed. I've been waiting almost 2 years to get a colonoscopy.(Funny, colonoscopy doesn't come up in my auto correct.)
at least in Canada you do not have to pay 20,000
@bazookagaming1129 yeah we do. We're taxed up the ass. Our Healthcare only appears to be free, but it's not.
go to india
A few years ago I was in terrible pain and for the longest time my family and family doctor thought it was just growing pains. Only to discover that I had gallstones and before I could even properly schedule a procedure day I came into the ER with my pain level being at a 9 and I was seen in about 15mins, the ER doctor told me that if I haven’t come in when I had my gallbladder would have burst. I was given morphine, I was scheduled for surgery the next day but due to a emergency C-section it was pushed back another day (apparently it was a beautiful and healthy baby boy) but there was a cancellation the next morning and I was able to get one then.
@@shannon-leemcnaughton5031 oh wow, that's crazy. I'm glad you didn't get seriously hurt.
I wish this wasn't accurate. I called to make a Dr appointment today. The earliest I can see her is mid January because it's "a non-urgent issue"
I called my docters office today. Earliest appointment is via phonecall in 3 weeks.
Hahah, probably filmed this while he was waiting for the doctor. Good old Canada, eh?
Well 14k a year ain’t bad considering 13k in America isn’t even enough for 5 days in the hospital
In the US if I go to a doctor, I wait a few minutes only for the doctor to look me up and down for about 30 seconds and tell me what they think is wrong with me and leaves without listening to my vitals or asking me questions. I would rather wait and have a doctor seem like they actually care about me vs a doctor the hurries through as many patients as possible and only views us as dollar signs.
You do realize most canadian doctors do exactly the same thing? Because the government pays them a flat amount per patient, so they try to pass as many people as possible in a day.
Every year there are 300,000 Canadians that travel to US because I they are put on a on a long waiting list to get surgery and would rather pay the money to get it done and over with... I got a concussion and waited 8 hours in the waiting room 2 other people only to be told that the doctors are very busy over and over again. I've never had to use US Healthcare but I can tell you that in Canada they do not care asmuch as they would like you to beleive. My Roommate also waited 2 days in the waiting room to get a broken hand fixed and because he was a fast healer they had to re break the bones to set it back properly which they messed up at
It's not better in canada 😂
I waited for 2 hours and did the exactly same thing XD
😂😂😂😂 They don’t give a shit here. They have so many patients to see. Chop, chop, next.
I’d rather wait than go into debt. Like any other sensible human being.
Rather wait and waste ur time I see ur time is the most precious thing u got in this world never forget that
@@BaconSlayer69the USA doesn’t give you any healthcare. I got a fractured vertebrae and herniated disk in my back 2 years ago at 21 and I’ve seen 5 different back physicians and they still tell me “Idk” when they know exactly already. It’s insane. I can barely stand for 20 minutes before it’s unbearable to stand any longer. And I’m about to be homeless because I can’t get treatment and any job I can get rn I’m in 10/10 pain all day. In the USA you’ll wait forever and never get care no matter how many times you go to the doctor.
@@BaconSlayer69USA revealing itself to me as a 3rd world country
@@BaconSlayer69doctors in America did nothing but waste my time. Monkey ass doctors
@@BaconSlayer69 So yeah, the USA way, fast-tracked to bankruptcy
I’d rather wait as a Canadian than be told by my insurance company that I can’t get the treatment my Dr suggest I need because I have to do XYZ first.
Would you rather:
pay $10000 for a band-aid or
pay $0 for a clean-ish rag
He paid for the paper he sat on in usa $5000 😂
Use the water fountain? That's another 3k
I didn't mind painfully waiting to be treated in the hospital as a Canadian, rather wait for a few hours then to spend the rest of my life paying off my hospital debt.
Bro, I live in US by the side of a huge hospital, near Lake Nona(a medical city) there are a max of 5 cars in the entire hospital parking lot. A lot of people here have the mentality "Oh, if it gets worse then I will go." But when it gets worse, it alredy too late. Like most cancer cases, there are a lot of cancer related deaths in US because of the mentality "I will go if it gets worse", and when the person finally goes to the doctor, the cancer already spreaded through the body. Health should be free, it is a human need, a human right!!!!
Nothing is free in society some people put in the work
If you work a full time job and have decent benefits in the US, this isn’t a problem.
i think this is dafault for any country...here in brazil you can die in in the public hospitals...if you pay or have benefits like you said your life will be better...
Show the one where you're diagnosed with a rare form of cancer and then can't afford the medicine in the US version.
And then show the one where you have that same form of rare cancer, and then you just kiss your butt goodbye because you're in the canadian health care system and you know you'll be dead by the t8me they get around to you.
@N Never heard of that
@@Cavachonc777 Where does he shop and what kind of savings are we talking about?
🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦free health care legal pot but the wait is ridiculous
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This is the same is Australia my mum was literally dying and it took they 4 hours to come and do nothing and leave for 2 hours and give her a jelly cup finally after the entire 6 hours they finally helped me
Ohh yes 45% of your income goes to Taxes. But "FREE" health care tho right. 🤣
People are dumb
You may wait in Canada, but at least everyone can see the doctor. The US, you wait, pay out the ass, and those who can't afford it (and don't qualify for free or low cost coverage) don't see a doctor at all. 🤷
That or they have to pay a 500k in medical care and are now in debt
@@MarcusCollins69 exactly.
I have never paid a penny over $100 for anything medical related in New York lol my daughter broke her arm and the ambulance ride was $47
@@Brandenuzis Wow, you have decent health insurance{not BCBS). I've read where people have used Ubers instead of ambulances because of astronomical ambulance bill.
Lmao the average wait time is 25.6 weeks
I live in Kingston Ontario Canada. If I wanted to see my family doctor all I have to do is call in at 8:30 am when their phone lines open, and I can have an appointment that day. And no I don't have to pay anything for it.
You paid it in taxes already.
@@joycesamuel5065 When all costs are taken into account (e.g. taxes, insurance rates, out-of-pocket) Americans pay more for healthcare than any other nation. And without an appreciable increase in quality.
In America we have convinced ourselves that we will pay twice as much to a private insurance company if it means not paying half the amount in taxes.
@@MC-yt1uvservice is way faster ppl have died waiting to be helped
@@MC-yt1uvso you've never depended on the Canadian system?
In America you die still trying to pay off your medical bills. In Canada you die in the lobby waiting for a room to open up but at least you didn’t have to pay.
United States is better
In Canada I was cared for like a human. In the US my personal wheelchair was broken and nobody gave a fuck. Canada 1 America 0 lol
USA hands down. I would rather pay the bill than pass it on to the taxpayers.
Think you are forgetting about other social programmes you take for granted, e.g. fire departments. Look around the world and the US is the only major one without universal health care. You have outrageous fees to profit the few, many people without care, many in massive debts. Then compare markers like life expectancy, maternal and infant mortality, etc.
Compare prices on invoices between India, the UK, even Canada, vs the US; it is cringe worthy. Is Canadian health care perfect? No, it needs work, esp after the pandemic. I do not see a Conservative govt that will improve things(they are like your GOP and owned by the same billionaires in the shadows. The Cons do a lot of damage when they are in and it takes years to repair.
As a Canadian
I approve of this because it’s not fails
If the US had the same healthcare system as Canada we would not have these medical bills people would be paying we would have fewer people dying from the lack of health insurance. The US would not be spending trillions of dollars on the military industrial complex and instead fund for single payer healthcare system and cancel all student debt.
Usa better, just get a decent job with a low deductible. My husband got hurt and tore a bunch of stuff in his leg. We paid 150. No insurance would have been close to 9k after emergency room and specialist. But given we pay about 400 a month to get this.
Yeah and what about others that can't get "decent job" according to you and therefore can't get better healthcare.Healthcare is a right not privilege
Canada....yes you need to wait but it's free. Allows people who do not have the means to pay to get seen by a doctor the possibility to do so at a cost of$0.00
It's not free. It is through your taxes. Your still paying 🙄
@@thecrittercouple523 “Free at the point of service” would be more accurate.
You live in one of the RICHEST countries in the world. Why can't you afford to pay for healthcare?
Canadian system sucks. Downright horrible. I don’t know many people that wouldn’t be willing to pay for insurance rather than wait months for a biopsy and then months more for a surgery, whilst everyone else is still backlogged. Massive respect for healthcare workers, some of the most dedicated people in our country!
Canads does not have free health care. Most companys pay for employees medical service plans. People who dont work are covered by the tax collected from working people.
As someone who has lived in both countries and works in healthcare, I can confirm this is accurate. In the USA you pay a lot out of pocket, but it’s a lot faster. In Canada you pay a lot more but through taxes instead of out of pocket.
So glad to be Canadian.
Health care isn’t free here, you still pay a lot for it in Taxes.
@@billclinton912 Health care is a basic human right, so that is sad.
😂 Yeah right. I got my shoulder and elbow injured and the best they can do is give me tylenol, no xray or whatever.
@@billclinton912 In the US we pay more for healthcare, we are just giving it to insurance companies instead of the government.
Americans are the only people proud to pay more for healthcare because they are scared of the word socialism.
@@lesliemccormick6527BaSiC hUmAn RiGhT....
Still doesnt change the Tax comment lib
You missed the part where the canadian books an appointment for the next available appointment.... a month from now
that's pretty normal for my part of the US. would be several months for a specialist. some specialists are booked up to a year in advance. it's basically because I live in an area where everyone can actually afford healthcare, as compared to one of the places where people just use street drugs for pain or die 'cause they can't afford treatment.
@@thatJackBidenTalksAbout yea its rough in the states but im talking about booking a month or more to see a general practitioner. Speciallist you could be on a waiting list for upwards of a year if they dont forget you
@@brunorbattlehammer yeah, that's what I was saying. I usually have to book a month ahead for my PA - not even a full on GP, a physician's assistant. dermatologist is about 2 or 3 months in advance, cardiologist...not worth the wait + cost 😂 was supposed to be something like $300 for the cardiologist, just for him to probably say "cut back on the caffeine and beer"
I love the fact that I live in Canada and I don’t have to pay a shit ton for healthcare I would rather wait three hours then pay for healthcare (I do understand that the reason our healthcare is free is because our taxes are higher) I still don’t care I love Canada specifically Ontario!!! ❤🇨🇦
I think you're delusional please see your doctor, oh wait 😬
Do you have room for one more?
LMAO, I regularly wait a couple hours at most doctor appointments in the US and pay through the nose to do so. Gladly change for waiting without masive debt
Seeing my Family doctor has always been quick provided I show up 15 minutes before the appointment. However going to the hospitals for semi emergency can take hours before you see a doctor. But never have to worry about paying the bill. I also know that private Health care is incredibly costly but fast in Canada.
it's not that bad compared to how many hidden costs we have. like, "employer provided insurance" is basically a more expensive version of Canada's tax, as anyone who's considered taking COBRA after leaving a job can usually attest to.
Canadians dont get free healthcare. They pay 30% of their income before they even get a paycheck. So really theyre paying more for inferior care.
Here in the US, my family pays about 1-2% of our income to total of health premiums and after insurance costs for a family of 5. About $350/month. If we lived in canada, we would be paying $7500/month whether we used health services or not.
Ya but since everybody is paying. The number will become smaller that's how division works.
Also with an added bonus you don't need to worried about your bill afterwards
Not to mention Canadians travel to the U.S. when they need specialized medical care or don’t want to wait 5 months for surgery with Stage 4 colon cancer, for example.
@@legalyaya12Not the case for me. I was diagnosed with colon cancer after a routine colonoscopy. Was referred the same day for lab work and had a CT scan the following week. Saw a surgeon within another week and had surgery 10 days later. Spent 3 days in the hospital and have had follow up scans. Everything was scheduled quickly and my out of pocket expense over the last 2 years has been $0.
@@Lakeshore14That’s still a really long time???? I had an infected toe once after stubbing it and they literally had me in and out of the hospital within an hour, For a TOE. You wanna know how much I paid? 0$
it's not inferior, just used more, so there's a slight wait.
it's not $350, it's $350+ whatever an employer pays that could be paid to to the employee instead - my COBRA from one place was $1,200/month after I left, which meant my employer was paying another $800 they could have paid me instead.
and then there's the $2000 deductible, the copays for every visit, the prescription costs for every fill...
if it was paid for by taxes, the state can use economy of scale to make big guaranteed purchases, rather than insurance and clinics nickel and diming us at every turn
No, US has us wait and then hand over the 3 cards, an arm , a leg, and buy them dinner
When I moved to Canada, after my first visit to a clinic I wasn't really sure about free medical system and asked the lady in the waiting room "do we just go out the door after seeing the doctor...?" and she was like "Um... What eles do you do...? lol"😂 Her face looked like I was asking the most weird question of the century.
We wait a while in the US also 🤣
Then That Means Canada Wins.
But, we get the privilege of helping the CEO of an insurance company buy a yacht.
We've been waiting longer and longer BECAUSE we keep getting pressured to be more like other countries.
@@faithrb01 yeah, side effect of the ACA meant more people actually got insurance that covered "pre-existing conditions." more usage=longer lines. but on the flip side, the ACA made it so physician owned hospitals can't expand and doctors can't start or take over hospitals, so private equity runs things more for profit, prioritizing the most profitable conditions for the people most able to pay. rich get treated, poor get streeted
Not even close in wait times lol
emergency rooms are a nightmare in canada
Emergency rooms are a nightmare in the US.
I have wait 8 hours here in California and that’s at the good hospital now the bad ones I been there a full day sun up tell sun down
I live in California and my sister was pregnant and they took her in right away
try here in Brazil....Have you already watched walking death??
Canadian living in the US, absolutely agree! But there are no jobs in Canada.
The key in the USA is to get a good paying job that offers great insurance. I worked for a supermarket thru college. There was nothing taken out of my paycheck for the insurance premiums and I only had to pay $100 per year for a deductible before the insurance covered 90% of my healthcare costs. Preventative stuff like mammograms, PAP smears, colonoscopy, physicals were free. Meds were $10 for name brand and $5 for generic. I could go to any specialist I wanted without seeing my Primary Care Physician first. I've never had better insurance since then, and I even work in health care now. My husband works for non-profit type companies and his insurance is equal to what I had at the supermarket.
In America, they want your credit cards BEFORE they even look at you.
Lies
lol no
Other than the ER, pretty much. The first procedure done is the wallet biopsy to decide how much you will be overcharged.
Realistically the Canadian guy should have been a skeleton in the wait room to illustrate how long you have to wait to even be SEEN by a doctor and the chances of getting a good doctor is slim to none. In the US you get seen that day.
@Sadi Masochist - No, in The USA you do NOT get seen that day. You Canadians have a misguided concept of The USA’s healthcare system.
@@thegreypath1777 You 100% get seen that day by a physician or a doctor especially if you're paying for it That's not the case in Canada You're waiting months to get an appointment just to be seen. Canada's " free " healthcare is so bad that now they're offering to assist suicide people since paying for their medical with that " Free " healthcare seems to be a lot harder than previously advertised
Uh, which part of America do you live in? Whenever I call the doctor's office they ask what time next week works for me.
If you need a specialist in the US, you *might* get seen in a few months. If you live somewhere with a lot of old folks who have medicare, good luck even getting an appointment at a clinic. And all for the low, low price of about $800 to $1200 less pay per month, assuming your employer even has to "provide" insurance.
honestly in canada you have to wait a solid 20 minutes (from the Canadian province im from) and dont charge much for example from what i know its 45 dollars for an ambulance
you also wait forever in the US but you still pay your entire retirement 🥲
Haha....so accurate on both!
Bruh Canadian healthcare is free oc it’s better
😂 it’s not free
It’s OBVIOUS which system is better!! YAY CANADA!!!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
As an American who lived in Montreal, I can say that the wait times I had in the US were MUCH LONGER.
You have to pay hell lot of taxes in Canada.. and so much long waiting times
@Royal Family - You have to pay high medical bills in The USA, and you STILL have long waiting times
The grass is not greener on the other side. Switzerland and USa has the highest expense in Healthcare and still there is equal wait times.
@@thegreypath1777 isn’t it shorter than that in Canada?
For MRI, canada wait time is 1 year
American here: You have this dissolution that Americans don’t have to wait to see their doctors - you are wrong. You could duplicate the same waiting time as the Canadian in your film. Handing over all of your credit cards at the end is accurate though, for Americans.
yup. anywhere where most people can afford care is going to be booked up long in advance. anywhere that isn't...people just aren't going 😕
Just did self pay at an Advent Walk in clinic in Orlando yesterday. Its $318 now. 2 mins with the "doctor"
as a dual citizen american and canadian. Having spent the first 26 years of my life in canada I can attest to the accuracy of this short. I tore my ACL and I had a 4 month wait to get it done (for free mind you) where as I could have paid 20k and had it done the next week in the US. Now being a citizen with insurance in the US if I was to tear my ACL it would cost me my accident deductible (I have a small supplemental policy in the case for accidents as that is my major concern) of $500 and I could get it done almost immediately. Also free is never actually free, just look at the taxes in provinces like Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia where the majority of the population lives.
When I lived in the US, I always had to wait an ungodly amount of time for the doctor to show up. I don't know about Canada, but both the UK & Spanish national health services are at worst as slow, but usually considerably faster.
The UK's NHS is purposely inefficient so politicians can eventually privatise it. Canada's is slow because of bureaucracy and shortage of staff.
@@alimusawi100 Well, the NHS has those problems because it's chronically underfunded, but I know what you mean. Still, talk to Americans who have to rely on insurance & you'll find many of them also have long waits.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I never had to wait more than an hour for any appointment I can remember?
@@jgwill And in the UK & Spain, I've never had to wait as long as an hour. Except maybe (maybe) once when I had to go to the emergency room on a Friday evening.
@@mariaaguadoball3407 I have never heard of anyone visiting European/Canadian health centers that never had to wait weeks or months to get appointments, and then wait hours at the appointment as well. Also, chronically underfunded means they need more tax money from you to pay for it right?
LOL. Thankfully I'm a patient guy
ha very good!
You better be. What other option do you have in Canada?
@@TrudeausBlackFace At least you have the option, unlike USA retarded healthcare system.
@@foreignfat6009 Not retarded. If you have a job, you can pay for your own healthcare. If you're a slob, you get no healthcare. I like that system & I'm a Canadian.
@@TrudeausBlackFace - Same in The USA.
I waited 14 hours in an Arizona ER while enduring kidney stones.
Doctors in Vancouver or BC 🇨🇦 Doesn't give a damn! they just want that head count for tax money. I injured my elbow and shoulder they just give me Tylenol. 🤦
That why United States is better come to United States greeting from United States 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Canadian Healthcare:
-Hey, doc, I've been worried about this pain in m...
-Have you considered MAID?
*Have you considered SSRI’s and mutilation?
American Health Care Hey just go And Sit Down and I will Check you also United States health care is better and More Cheaper go to United States
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huh i am Canadian and i never have to wait over 5-10 minutes since i have appointments tho i guess if you don't have one it could take a while.
Free healthcare is worth a little wait.
“Doctor, my arms really hurts!”
Canadian Doctor: “Hmm, would you like to try euthanasia?”
Patient: "Doctor, my arm really hurts!"
American Doctor: "That sucks, hopeful it gets better. That will be $200."
The irony they can euthanize. But some guy does what they do to depressed people and he is a killer. Make it make sense
I asked a doctor 1 extra question $250 no joke usa sucks
It kinda depends, in Canada sometimes you wait long sometime not that long. Over all Canada is much better I think
I think this is only for ER/ walk in clinics. When I go to my family doctor and miss 10 mins I have to wait 4 months again to visit.
Canada: You wait until you heal yourself.
Japan: Don't sick on the weekends.
In Canada you wait a long time, but don't have to pay for it?! Is that what I'm supposed to understand? I know in USA we pay a lot.
Healthcare is covered thru taxes in Canada
We don't wait that long if urgent....real emergency case are deal with quickly
I live in Kingston Ontario Canada. If I wanted to see my family doctor all I have to do is call in at 8:30 am when their phone lines open, and I can have an appointment that day. And no I don't have to pay anything for it.
@@ajporoznik9738 Lucky. Not often there are same day appointments in America even for kids...
@@guylainelaroche6391 lies. I was at the emergency room for 7 hours plus another 3 hours to see the doctor 10 total
You didn't mention the prescription, but in my experience, I waited nearly six hours in the emergency room. The doctor later told me something groundbreaking-Advil/Tylenol works wonders! I suffered from elbow tendonitis for almost a year, and the doctor suggested Advil/Tylenol since other pain medications are very addictive 😂😂.
Thanks to God finally I got surgery now
I'm from Canada. Our system is not perfect, wait times are long, but I have never paid a single penny my whole life to get medical care. I'll take that any day.
Love the ending..well done!
Take care and stay healthy 🇨🇦❤️🤒
You have to be dying to get looked at in Canada, literally. And even then, tax dollars are going elsewhere.
In Canada, you COULD wait a long time, and in the U.S., you COULD pay through the nose. However, in both countries, it's not like that for everybody or even necessarily most people. Some Canadians get prompt care and some Americans pay relatively little out of pocket. However, the Canadian system may be slightly better because it is considerably more economical overall due to lower administrative costs, lower drug costs, and less profit. In the U.S., there is a lot of paperwork for hundreds of different insurance companies, drug costs are higher, and much of the system is a for-profit industry with some fairly high margins.
In Canada, if you go to clinic you will have to eat Tylenol and Advil.. If you need some treatment, go to emergency, be a drama king ir queen, put some glycerin inside eyes and cry, faint do whatever you can.. Get the specialist to check you, ask to run tests stay until they find the issue. By the way if you are going with a possible fracture case, ask them to take xray snd make sure that they are checking it well before sending you home with an instruction saying take tylenol and rest. 99% time they will say that you have to wait hours which I found as a lie mostly. They do xrays and all pretty quick.. all you need to do is express the pain…
Canadian medical system is becoming a joke… Lack of public funding and resources are the main causes. I don’t know where all our taxes are going…