Though I agree it is more modern sounding, the reason for the harshness on the dirty channel is the volume is too low. You need to crank the volume and turn the gain to taste. You can't do that at home without an attenuator. Same issue with a plexi or any valve amp for that matter.
I picked up a new TH 30 head about 2 months ago . I plug it into an orange 1x12 closed back cab. 2x12 is to heavy. I'm getting old. I love the simplicity of this amp. I love the amp. Dirty channel is awesome and has more gain then I would ever need. Clean is awesome too and breaks up nicely. My guitars are 93 LP standard w/ P90's and 61 reissue SG. I do not use anh effects pedal. My only pedal is aBoss tuning pedal. Can be used30 watts, 15 and 7.5. Nice feature for cranking it at home. 30 watts is plenty for the gigging I do. Small clubs/bars and outdoor type parties. Might add a 2nd 1x12 at some point.I suggest going to your local music store and testing one. You won't be disappointed. I play mostly classic rock. Amp is a bit pricey but I think its well worth it. Also has an effects loop which I do not use. I tested mine side by side with an Orange OR15. Also very nice. OR15 is single channel 15 watt. Also can be used at 7.5 watts.
The clean tone is very similar, the El 84s in the OR do have a bit more bottom end when pushed to natural break on clean and perhaps a more vintage feel on the gain channel. the tone controls on the OR definatly offer more control over the shaping of mid range. other than that, plugged into my 4x12 cab they are extremely similar. both quite simple but full of great sounds i have dialed, and yet to discover. TH 30 is in my opinion one of the best Tube amps you can get for the money.
I had a matamp and when I played it all the croquery fell out of the neighbours dresser - but that was OK cos she say that it was the most melodious playing she'd heard since Segovia - and she ought to know as her cousin was married to his nephew back when they all lived in Wales...
Hello Dave, I have found u are correct when it comes to the th30 and humbuckers sounding more to fit. I would like for u to if u could to feel the joy of a 56 LPjr plugged into a tuner them into a rockerverb 50. I inherited a 1956 Jr from my grandfather and it's a sound that is just balls to the wall of sweet rock n roll. It's something about that p90 and the way it sounds through the rockerverb 50. I can get any time from country twang all the way through to Van Halen. Seriously man, u have got to experience the tone of the gods before u pass. Im m more of a L.P. man only because my grandad left me the Jr and I learned to play on that .When I was 16 I was fortunate enough to buy my own Peavey predator used of course but it sounded like a start. It was black with white pick guard and I played that thing into 3 refrets. I loved the strat after that and seeing SRV on Austin City Limits. Try the p90 it's a really cool tone my friend. Keep up the awesome work.
Dave nailed it here. TH30 is much brighter and can't be dialed out with ease. Much better suited to humbuckers. Much better suited to modern music. Tried one today side by side with cr120. cr120 prevailed. better EQ, better punch, thicker, and more versatile. Only thing the th30 did better was cleans.
Its a very very very very very good amp ... yes indoodle! The drive channel wouldn't be for me either ... but i'm always impressed by this distinctive Orange-OD: full, fat, not piercing, ... great!
welp, actually prefer the CR120 too :D the only other amp i'd ever like to own would be the rockerverb and or the Randall Satan (last one 'cus chugs. but yes, they are both damn expensive) Thanks for the video! :)
Found one of these sitting in my local music store... 1050.00, they take trades so I’m gonna bring in my CR35 and Micro Dark to see what they can do for me Any advice for bargaining?
@@notryan1502 wow that’s a big step up!!! Good move and glad to hear!! I am considering a TH30 or the bad cat cub 40R USA Player.....Two very different amplifiers but both cover so much ground. Tough one!
Ha Dave, if you put it in full power mode and lower the volume it produces better mid range and girth for the single coils , it was my first orange amp I loved it , but I do prefer the more traditional orange rocker style , I used to try and play blues on that amp and b3 I noticed I'd be head banging
Hey Dave, I wanna ask, you are using some pedal to make that distortion sound, right ?? And If you turn GAIN to max, is it making some HUM or not ? I really would like to know, because I own Orange Dual Terror, and its good amp, but when I want to use HIGH gain settings without any pedal, its making unbelievable annoying HUM soud.. So I am just wondering is its same here too.. thanks for answer
I wasn't using any pedals no. Its just the amps distortion. The amp hisses with gain on full but most amps do on full gain and there is 60 cycle hum with single coils. : )
Hey Dave! Great vid i was wondering at high volumes like gig level without micing your cab which sounds better? cr120 or th30, i heard the cr120 thins out at really high master volume levels i wanted to know what you thought! aLSO what guitar are you using?
+Dario Carrasco I've heard that the CR thins out at loud volumes to but its not true. I normally gig mine on 6 or 7 and have never had that issue. I would prefer the CR over the TH because its a little bit more versatile and classic sounding. The Les Paul is a Vintage V100PG Lemon drop and the Strat is a custom made strat I've had for ages. It has Wilkinson single coils in it with a transparent amber finish. Thank you for watching. :)
HELP!! Hi Dave......greetings from all you videos from Italy...asking for advice (open to any who can answer): I own a Marshall origin 50w and thinking about upgrade to this Orange th30....should or shouldn't?
@@thedavesimpson i actually didn't think you were going to reply back ....at least not in so short time! Thank you! along with Ben McLeod you are my heroes! On Sunday I'll have a meet up with the guy who's solding the Orange....I'll try it out and what works best to my ears. Note that I already run the marshall into an orange 212 closed back cab (tight bass response reason)...I thought it was a logical upgrade to match orange head and orange cab.....thank you Dave! The world needs you!
Hi. Would this be a good choice for a solo artist who mainly plays Swedish Death Metal? I normally record with a Randall RD-1H but I'm looking for an amp to dual track under the Randall.
***** Thank you for responding, I just discovered this channel through this video yesterday and I have to say, you're a fantastic guitar player. I wish I'd discovered this channel sooner haha. Anyway, I subscribed and I hope you're having a great day. Thanks again for responding.
I have that amp, what settings did you have the dirty channel on when you were playing the Van Halen stuff? it looked like the shape knob was on about 2.5? with the gain maxed? Thanks man your videos are killer!
really enjoy yr videos - yr really an amazing guitar player - have u ever tried any of the Randall amps ? some of the stuff u have played has blown me away - it's nice to hear someone that actually still plays old school -
I recently got the cr120h and I love It! But I play in a high school jazz band and when it comes to cleans if I crank the clean channel volume it becomes broken up any advice?
I personally prefer the CR as the TH is just to bright and modern sounding to my ear. You can get the CR to sound a lot like the TH though through tweaking. It would make a great backup to your TH. :)
The th 30 takes pedals really well and yes it's a very modern amp ............. please do a Marshall jmd1 it goes from classic to super hi gain and it's 100w or you can get a 50w combo try one see what you think
i know your gonna hate me for this Dave, but i can super tell thats a valve amp, as much as i love that ss Orange you always use, the clean does sound amazing.....
Thank you for this review and demo! I’m torn trying to decide between the TH30 and the CR120 pro. I really cannot decide. Any advice? I like to play doom/sludge and have a late 80s Laney 412 cab that I’d be playing through.
I would personally recommend the CR. It has darker tone that will suit your style more. The TH is very bright by comparison. Thank you very much for watching. :)
@@thedavesimpson Awesome, thanks for the quick response! I'll scan Craigslist and Reverb and see if I can find any deals, otherwise I'll be heading to zzounds and ordering one this weekend. Thanks again!
Do you base that on the difference in price, or does the cr120h sound that much better? I have a cr120h and added an eq in the loop because it sounded a little too dark for me. I love the way it sounds now, especially at about 3-4 on the Master Volume. I have seen a few vids on this TH30 head and its 30,15,7 capabilities, as well as the way the clean channel sounds when gassed, and am intrigued.
I had a th 30 brand new but swapped it for a Marshall Jmd1 which is a hybrid tube amp 4 el34s and 16 Marshall pre amps and it is awesome way better than the th30
It normally doesnt sound good witha strat but your strat is ORANGE! you do know TONE is in the fingers right? so when are we going to see a review of a First act guitar and amp? baahaa seriously ide bet you could make it sound like something way better.
Honestly, I love the tone of my single coils on this amp. My tele and strat both sing through my th30
Though I agree it is more modern sounding, the reason for the harshness on the dirty channel is the volume is too low. You need to crank the volume and turn the gain to taste. You can't do that at home without an attenuator. Same issue with a plexi or any valve amp for that matter.
100% agreed
I have owned one of these. Demo is a little quirky. But it is the most accurate one on UA-cam for this amp.
Love this amp. Great to revisit. Thanks Dave. Stay well.
Now I know where all my piles of cocaine went. Kilos upon kilos missing. It all makes sense now.
+Jonathan Labusch Haha. :)
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I picked up a new TH 30 head about 2 months ago . I plug it into an orange 1x12 closed back cab. 2x12 is to heavy. I'm getting old. I love the simplicity of this amp. I love the amp. Dirty channel is awesome and has more gain then I would ever need. Clean is awesome too and breaks up nicely. My guitars are 93 LP standard w/ P90's and 61 reissue SG. I do not use anh effects pedal. My only pedal is aBoss tuning pedal. Can be used30 watts, 15 and 7.5. Nice feature for cranking it at home. 30 watts is plenty for the gigging I do. Small clubs/bars and outdoor type parties. Might add a 2nd 1x12 at some point.I suggest going to your local music store and testing one. You won't be disappointed. I play mostly classic rock. Amp is a bit pricey but I think its well worth it. Also has an effects loop which I do not use. I tested mine side by side with an Orange OR15. Also very nice. OR15 is single channel 15 watt. Also can be used at 7.5 watts.
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Here but now they're gone...
Nice amp, nice guitars, nice guy, great demo.
Thank you very much. : )
i love my TH30. picke up an OR recently. . just love that british.chime
+Scott McLennan What do you think of the OR compared to the TH? Are they pretty similar sounding?
The clean tone is very similar, the El 84s in the OR do have a bit more bottom end when pushed to natural break on clean and perhaps a more vintage feel on the gain channel. the tone controls on the OR definatly offer more control over the shaping of mid range. other than that, plugged into my 4x12 cab they are extremely similar. both quite simple but full of great sounds i have dialed, and yet to discover. TH 30 is in my opinion one of the best Tube amps you can get for the money.
Scott McLennan Awesome, thanks for that!
Thanks for the Demo Dave, I am thinking of buying one of these! Enjoyed the Magic Guitar Change too!
Thank you very much. : )
Finally! Very helpful review of this amp, I was looking for this for a long time, thanks Dave!
+Luis_Cypher Glad I could be helpful. Thank you for watching. :)
Watching this while waiting for my TH30 to come in tomorrow:) Also have the CR120H it’s awesome 👏
How does the TH30 compare to the CR120? I'm looking at an orange for Stonery/Doom stuff and I'm debating price vs tone for these two.
I had a matamp and when I played it all the croquery fell out of the neighbours dresser - but that was OK cos she say that it was the most melodious playing she'd heard since Segovia - and she ought to know as her cousin was married to his nephew back when they all lived in Wales...
Hello Dave, I have found u are correct when it comes to the th30 and humbuckers sounding more to fit. I would like for u to if u could to feel the joy of a 56 LPjr plugged into a tuner them into a rockerverb 50. I inherited a 1956 Jr from my grandfather and it's a sound that is just balls to the wall of sweet rock n roll. It's something about that p90 and the way it sounds through the rockerverb 50. I can get any time from country twang all the way through to Van Halen. Seriously man, u have got to experience the tone of the gods before u pass. Im m more of a L.P. man only because my grandad left me the Jr and I learned to play on that .When I was 16 I was fortunate enough to buy my own Peavey predator used of course but it sounded like a start. It was black with white pick guard and I played that thing into 3 refrets. I loved the strat after that and seeing SRV on Austin City Limits. Try the p90 it's a really cool tone my friend. Keep up the awesome work.
p90s definitely define old school hard rock,you are damned lucky to have the holy grail of p90 guitars.NEVER SELL THAT THING
I loved the strat in the od channel! Sounds fantastic!
thanks for the great revue for this amp, verry interesting, it has killer tones and you're a great guitar player keep it up thx
+litlebrit1 Thank you very much and thanks for watching. :)
Dave nailed it here. TH30 is much brighter and can't be dialed out with ease. Much better suited to humbuckers. Much better suited to modern music. Tried one today side by side with cr120. cr120 prevailed. better EQ, better punch, thicker, and more versatile. Only thing the th30 did better was cleans.
Thank you for watching. :)
I have no clue how you can play this well with the guitar sitting on your knees.
Being gangly helps. :)
Its a very very very very very good amp ... yes indoodle!
The drive channel wouldn't be for me either ... but i'm always impressed by this distinctive Orange-OD: full, fat, not piercing, ... great!
+Matze R Thank you for watching. :)
You played Pantera and Metallica! That's the heaviest I've ever seen you go! As a metalhead, I can verify that you pulled off quite well!
Thank you very much indeed. :)
but the Pantera freaked me out a little bit. sounds weird idk if it's bc orange or what. which makes me sad because i always recommend orange.
It’s because he played it wrong.
It’s so angry I love it!
I love my cr120H, but this sounds amazing. I think I may need to save up for this. Fuck the neighbors, this sounds amazing with single coils
Brian Lawrence did u end up getting one? I’m struggling right now trying to decide between these same 2 amps you mention
welp, actually prefer the CR120 too :D the only other amp i'd ever like to own would be the rockerverb and or the Randall Satan (last one 'cus chugs. but yes, they are both damn expensive)
Thanks for the video! :)
+Cedric.H Thank you for watching. :)
Found one of these sitting in my local music store... 1050.00, they take trades so I’m gonna bring in my CR35 and Micro Dark to see what they can do for me
Any advice for bargaining?
my advice to you is .. add more cowbell dude
Did you go through with the deal?
@@alexwalker5645 hell yes I did and I’m now a happy man
@@notryan1502 wow that’s a big step up!!! Good move and glad to hear!! I am considering a TH30 or the bad cat cub 40R USA Player.....Two very different amplifiers but both cover so much ground. Tough one!
@@alexwalker5645 I’m playing it through a vintage 60’s open back Sunn 2x12 with Celestions and it’s pretty fantastic let me tell you
A little late here! Would you recommend it for apartment usage? I’ve read some comments/review that even with 7W it is ridiculously loud.
I wouldn’t no. It’s very loud.
Thank you!
That clean is soooo good,also GETCHA PULL
Ha Dave, if you put it in full power mode and lower the volume it produces better mid range and girth for the single coils , it was my first orange amp I loved it , but I do prefer the more traditional orange rocker style ,
I used to try and play blues on that amp and b3 I noticed I'd be head banging
Thank you for the info. :)
Hey Dave, I wanna ask, you are using some pedal to make that distortion sound, right ?? And If you turn GAIN to max, is it making some HUM or not ? I really would like to know, because I own Orange Dual Terror, and its good amp, but when I want to use HIGH gain settings without any pedal, its making unbelievable annoying HUM soud.. So I am just wondering is its same here too.. thanks for answer
I wasn't using any pedals no. Its just the amps distortion. The amp hisses with gain on full but most amps do on full gain and there is 60 cycle hum with single coils. : )
Hey Dave! Great vid i was wondering at high volumes like gig level without micing your cab which sounds better? cr120 or th30, i heard the cr120 thins out at really high master volume levels i wanted to know what you thought! aLSO what guitar are you using?
+Dario Carrasco I've heard that the CR thins out at loud volumes to but its not true. I normally gig mine on 6 or 7 and have never had that issue. I would prefer the CR over the TH because its a little bit more versatile and classic sounding. The Les Paul is a Vintage V100PG Lemon drop and the Strat is a custom made strat I've had for ages. It has Wilkinson single coils in it with a transparent amber finish. Thank you for watching. :)
HELP!!
Hi Dave......greetings from all you videos from Italy...asking for advice (open to any who can answer): I own a Marshall origin 50w and thinking about upgrade to this Orange th30....should or shouldn't?
I don't like the th myself so I wouldn't but its really down to you. Try before you buy.
@@thedavesimpson i actually didn't think you were going to reply back ....at least not in so short time! Thank you! along with Ben McLeod you are my heroes!
On Sunday I'll have a meet up with the guy who's solding the Orange....I'll try it out and what works best to my ears. Note that I already run the marshall into an orange 212 closed back cab (tight bass response reason)...I thought it was a logical upgrade to match orange head and orange cab.....thank you Dave! The world needs you!
@@tomz1989 thank you very much. I'm so grateful for your support. :)
Not a fan of this drive channel, but really like the clean :)
+MagneticWhistler Me to. I really like the clean tone it has but the dirty channel is usable if not a little harsh. Thanks for watching. :)
so with the half power switch and the adjustable tube number switch what are the possible amp wattages?
Obviously 30, 15 and...?
Hazen Stribling 30, 15, 7
Hi. Would this be a good choice for a solo artist who mainly plays Swedish Death Metal? I normally record with a Randall RD-1H but I'm looking for an amp to dual track under the Randall.
I'm sure it would be a good choice yes. :)
*****
Thank you for responding, I just discovered this channel through this video yesterday and I have to say, you're a fantastic guitar player. I wish I'd discovered this channel sooner haha. Anyway, I subscribed and I hope you're having a great day. Thanks again for responding.
I have that amp, what settings did you have the dirty channel on when you were playing the Van Halen stuff? it looked like the shape knob was on about 2.5? with the gain maxed? Thanks man your videos are killer!
I had the gain maxed and the shape dial was all the way to the left. Thank you very much indeed. :)
really enjoy yr videos - yr really an amazing guitar player - have u ever tried any of the Randall amps ? some of the stuff u have played has blown me away - it's nice to hear someone that actually still plays old school -
Thank you very much and i have played a few randall amps. There really great amps. : )
I recently got the cr120h and I love It! But I play in a high school jazz band and when it comes to cleans if I crank the clean channel volume it becomes broken up any advice?
My advice would be to lower your pickups very low and run the volume about 7 on the clean channel. :)
Okay sweet!
Dave how would you compare the TH30 and the CR120? Am thinking of buying a CR120 to back up my TH30.
I personally prefer the CR as the TH is just to bright and modern sounding to my ear. You can get the CR to sound a lot like the TH though through tweaking. It would make a great backup to your TH. :)
Dave Simpson thx for the response
Hey Dave. Enjoy your videos. Is this amp able to play a mixture of SRV/Gary Moore and everything in between ?
Thank you very much. :) I wouldn't recommend this amp for Gary or Stevie personally Its a little to modern sounding.
Awesome again👍
The th 30 takes pedals really well and yes it's a very modern amp ............. please do a Marshall jmd1 it goes from classic to super hi gain and it's 100w or you can get a 50w combo try one see what you think
Which do u prefer dave the th30 head vs supercrush 100 head mate??
Super crush.
How does the TH30 compare to the CR120? I have a CR120 but I've been craving a new orange head
+GuitarFreak1901 I personally prefer the CR. The TH is more modern sounding and less classic. If that makes any sense. :)
+Dave Simpson Thanks! Yeah I normally go for the more classic tones. What are your thoughts on the or15?
Is that a Frusciante t-shirt? Im in L-O-V-E with this amplifier.
+Chet Walters It is indeed. :)
Hey man! Which cabinet is being used with TH30 ?
It a Marshall AX 100watt cab. :)
very cool ,dig it
Thank you very much. :)
My (used) TH30's clean channel is STUPID loud, do you have the same problem?
Indeed. I found it a little to much sometimes.
what model of the fender strat?
Its not actually a fender. Its a put together strat that someone did that i bought. :)
fender logo is so big hahaha
i know your gonna hate me for this Dave, but i can super tell thats a valve amp, as much as i love that ss Orange you always use, the clean does sound amazing.....
I don't hate you for that. The clean on the TH was very good but i wouldn't go for it over the CR120. Way to clean. Thank you for watching. :)
Try an Orange Dark Terror dude. SUPER badass
where did you get that top from dave? i need the froosh in my life in t-shirt form
+gogajira2 I got it bought for me off ebay. There pretty awesome aren't they. :)
ah ty dave for replying
Heavy Metal Tim Bisley
more cowbell!
thanks tom and dave
+rocknroor Not a problem. Thanks you for watching. :)
Thank you for this review and demo! I’m torn trying to decide between the TH30 and the CR120 pro. I really cannot decide. Any advice? I like to play doom/sludge and have a late 80s Laney 412 cab that I’d be playing through.
I would personally recommend the CR. It has darker tone that will suit your style more. The TH is very bright by comparison.
Thank you very much for watching. :)
@@thedavesimpson Awesome, thanks for the quick response! I'll scan Craigslist and Reverb and see if I can find any deals, otherwise I'll be heading to zzounds and ordering one this weekend. Thanks again!
def t30
Really tossing up between the OR15 and the TH30 at the moment.
I would go for the OR15 myself. Awesome amp. :)
Yeah I think I"m pretty much sold on it.
th30 or rocker 15?
Rocker.
But... It... It's not orange, what is this sorcery?!
I love them in black!
+pomaranc747 Indoodle. Black is the new orange maybe?????
***** Black is the new black
Can i get a john frusciante and a jimmy page tone out of the th30 better than the 120
You'll get close but the TH is very bright and you need more mids for thee sounds. I would go for the 120 over the Th but thats me. : )
Dave Simpson thanks youre awesome
Whats that song at 9:19, it sounds so familiar but i just cant remember haha
Its Van Halen Ain't Talking About Love. :)
Drive channel on these are much sharper and more Hollow sounding. Rocker 30 was a better voiced amp for high gain in my opinion.
Will you do TH30 vs CR120?
I no longre have access to the TH but i would personally pick the CR over the Th. :)
Do you base that on the difference in price, or does the cr120h sound that much better? I have a cr120h and added an eq in the loop because it sounded a little too dark for me. I love the way it sounds now, especially at about 3-4 on the Master Volume. I have seen a few vids on this TH30 head and its 30,15,7 capabilities, as well as the way the clean channel sounds when gassed, and am intrigued.
Dave Simpson Thank you!
Can I live at your house
If you can find it. Hahaha. : )
✔️
Imagine a Sunn Life pedal slammed into this.
great amp, great review and awsome playing, try use your little pinky though :)
Thank you very much indeed. :)
Hey there..Is it suitable for home use?I live in a small apartment with fucking neighboors.
Not really. I would go for something smaller.
Even if it's at 7watt?
I had a th 30 brand new but swapped it for a Marshall Jmd1 which is a hybrid tube amp 4 el34s and 16 Marshall pre amps and it is awesome way better than the th30
Great vid. Strat not a nice colour though!
+Paul Moody Thanks very much for watching. :)
get yourself a Matamp mate
If i had the money.
It normally doesnt sound good witha strat but your strat is ORANGE!
you do know TONE is in the fingers right? so when are we going to see a review of a First act guitar and amp? baahaa
seriously ide bet you could make it sound like something way better.
Thank you very very much indeed. :)
Gonna trade my rockerverb 50 for the th30 haha
Zack Harris I literally did that. 😂 I had the Rockerverb 50mkiii combo and ended up selling and getting this head and a 412 👍
Jimmy Page is god
Noise
pan fucking tera.....who would a thunk it