Great video! You usually don't want as much air pressure as they say anyway unless you're sending huge bangers and shredding copious quantities of extreme gnarr. I love the cartoon TNT look of that rear shock.
Well I put about 370 psi into it as per the table - which nearly bent my shock pump - and then when I got on it it immediately bottomed out. So clearly I need something beefier than this Wile-E-Coyote junk.
I've got the exact same issue with the shock, pain in the backside, so decided to purchase a new bike today. CAME ON UA-cam FIRST VIDEO I CLICK IS THIS VIDEO
There's never a bad time to get a new bike. But these shocks are fixable if you can be bothered! So now you have a new bike AND a perfectly good old one. Win.
Same bike,same project here!!! Awesome bike!!! Trying now to find seals for equilizer 2 and service kit for the talas damper.(the 2 most difficult parts of the restoration....) If you want help.... I have full instructions for service both.😁
Good luck and thanks for the offer of instructions - I might take you up on that - oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk. So far I've been lucky, both my shock and fork are holding air which is seriously impressive. Also it's a generally amazing bike - takes an absolute beating and has rapidly become my go-to winter bike for muddy and rough trails.
The problem with this shock is the leakage between the air and oil partition inside the shock. As far as I can see you have the same problem. When everything is correct,when you apply the specific pressure to + and -, the shock must be all the way closed. If is not (like yours) means that it haven't the right amount of oil inside the oil partition. You must remove the oil from the air partition and put this amount of oil to the oil partition. The easiest, but not correct, way to do this without open the shock is to remove the oil from the air schrader valves and fill oil from the bleeding oil valves (be careful not loosing the small spring and bolt inside valve). The correct way to fix it is to open the shock and replace oil and seals of the main piston and 2 IFPs. Because it is a pull shock, as far as I know, there's no other model to replace it....
The difficult part with the fork is that the talas cartridge is much complicated to service and difficult to find a total service kit. Fox suggest to convert it to float using a float conversation kit. If you do this you loose the function to change the length of travel.
Completely off topic but I've just picked up a Raleigh pioneer trail.....90s ( I'd guess early 90's given the cantilever stoppers ) Now I'm a 700Caphobic buuut this thing is very pretty
I love those Pioneers. At the time I would have sneered because they were aimed at our mums and dads, but objectively they were a nice idea and well executed.
Hello I am looking into getting one of these, what are those types of shock absorber on the rear called? They work by extending and not compressing like most do, I am having second thoughts on buying the bike because I can not find cheaper alternative of those type of shock absorber that extend and not compress.
The shock is called the Scott Equalizer 2. You can still buy replacements for almost £700 and I don't think there's a cheaper alternative, however I'm not despairing at this because there are plenty of aftermarket shock servicing shops that can do a strip down and replace seals and fluids for cheaper than that. This is probably what I'm going to do with mine over the winter because I suspect that as some viewers have advised, some air/oil has leaked between the two chambers, compromising the effectiveness.
@@red_dread Hello, I'm interested to find out whether you managed to have the shock fixed by someone in the meantime? I've just bought a Genius 30 and having the same problem. Thanks
@@adamfodor4286 Hi, I haven't yet - I don't ride this bike very often and when I do it's plenty of fun even with an imperfect rear shock. However it does need doing and I can confirm that last time I googled it I found that there are people out there that can do it. Personally I wouldn't like to attempt a DIY job on this occasion, given that it's basically a highly pressurised grenade sitting between your legs.
Very unlikely as it’s a pull instead of a push mechanism! Also I don’t want to let this one defeat me - it looks so cool it would be a shame to bin it.
It really does fly doesn't it? That's an extremely good price considering what they sold for when new. I still enjoy giving this one a good hammering, even though I still haven't sorted out that crazy rear shock...
@@ericjohn5461It's insane how much pressure those shocks need isn't it? Yes, mine does have the multi-position selector lever. Until I get my shock properly serviced I use mine in the middle setting because it bottoms out too easily.
@red_dread I just got the psi specs from dt swiss today. I'm 220lbs, so I need 350psi in the positive and 230psi in the negative. I just bought a 600psi fox pump on ebay for $35. What's your weight?
Great video! You usually don't want as much air pressure as they say anyway unless you're sending huge bangers and shredding copious quantities of extreme gnarr. I love the cartoon TNT look of that rear shock.
Well I put about 370 psi into it as per the table - which nearly bent my shock pump - and then when I got on it it immediately bottomed out. So clearly I need something beefier than this Wile-E-Coyote junk.
@@red_dread I guess the chances of anything 20y old defying a pressure of 370psi (!) were never going to be high.
The saddle template made my inner 10 year old chuckle! 😂
Astonishing that I passed up the opportunity to make that gag to be honest. Promise I'll do better next time.
@@red_dread haha I will look forward to it!
I've got the exact same issue with the shock, pain in the backside, so decided to purchase a new bike today. CAME ON UA-cam FIRST VIDEO I CLICK IS THIS VIDEO
It's a calling I had to execute 🎉
There's never a bad time to get a new bike. But these shocks are fixable if you can be bothered! So now you have a new bike AND a perfectly good old one. Win.
@@red_dread I can't let go of the Scott genius it's the perfect fit
I had one stolen from my yard a few years ago, eleventh saddest day of my life :(. Great bike on the trails though, enjoy.
I am gagging to get this one out for a ride, but early attempts at kerb-hopping prove that the rear shock is indeed toast. I expect trouble ahead.
@@red_dread Good luck 🤞
Una de las mejores maquinas construidas por el hombre. Tengo 2 y abierto a ampliar la familia. 😎
Es toda una maquina!
I have a 2022 Scott Genius 920! Even the vintage one on this vid is soooo hot
The new ones are stunning - and yes, this one’s pretty amazing too. Definitely worth salvaging.
Same bike,same project here!!! Awesome bike!!! Trying now to find seals for equilizer 2 and service kit for the talas damper.(the 2 most difficult parts of the restoration....)
If you want help.... I have full instructions for service both.😁
Good luck and thanks for the offer of instructions - I might take you up on that - oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk. So far I've been lucky, both my shock and fork are holding air which is seriously impressive. Also it's a generally amazing bike - takes an absolute beating and has rapidly become my go-to winter bike for muddy and rough trails.
The problem with this shock is the leakage between the air and oil partition inside the shock. As far as I can see you have the same problem. When everything is correct,when you apply the specific pressure to + and -, the shock must be all the way closed. If is not (like yours) means that it haven't the right amount of oil inside the oil partition. You must remove the oil from the air partition and put this amount of oil to the oil partition.
The easiest, but not correct, way to do this without open the shock is to remove the oil from the air schrader valves and fill oil from the bleeding oil valves (be careful not loosing the small spring and bolt inside valve).
The correct way to fix it is to open the shock and replace oil and seals of the main piston and 2 IFPs.
Because it is a pull shock, as far as I know, there's no other model to replace it....
The difficult part with the fork is that the talas cartridge is much complicated to service and difficult to find a total service kit. Fox suggest to convert it to float using a float conversation kit. If you do this you loose the function to change the length of travel.
Please get me instructions
Cakes pies and savory's lol ( what pray tell are the savory's)
Sausage rolls, sausage/bean/cheese melts, hot dogs. Also party eggs.
Hello, where i can find manual to this bike?
Not sure, sorry - I never had one. The info on the shock and fork I just got off Google. The rest of it was just stuff I already knew.
Nice pick up...👍
Completely off topic but I've just picked up a Raleigh pioneer trail.....90s ( I'd guess early 90's given the cantilever stoppers )
Now I'm a 700Caphobic buuut this thing is very pretty
I love those Pioneers. At the time I would have sneered because they were aimed at our mums and dads, but objectively they were a nice idea and well executed.
Me too - £20 on eBay :). Looks like it is going to be a good one.
Hello I am looking into getting one of these, what are those types of shock absorber on the rear called? They work by extending and not compressing like most do, I am having second thoughts on buying the bike because I can not find cheaper alternative of those type of shock absorber that extend and not compress.
The shock is called the Scott Equalizer 2. You can still buy replacements for almost £700 and I don't think there's a cheaper alternative, however I'm not despairing at this because there are plenty of aftermarket shock servicing shops that can do a strip down and replace seals and fluids for cheaper than that. This is probably what I'm going to do with mine over the winter because I suspect that as some viewers have advised, some air/oil has leaked between the two chambers, compromising the effectiveness.
@@red_dread Cheers thanks for the reply
@@red_dread Hello, I'm interested to find out whether you managed to have the shock fixed by someone in the meantime? I've just bought a Genius 30 and having the same problem. Thanks
@@adamfodor4286 Hi, I haven't yet - I don't ride this bike very often and when I do it's plenty of fun even with an imperfect rear shock. However it does need doing and I can confirm that last time I googled it I found that there are people out there that can do it. Personally I wouldn't like to attempt a DIY job on this occasion, given that it's basically a highly pressurised grenade sitting between your legs.
Can you replace the shock with a coil?
Very unlikely as it’s a pull instead of a push mechanism! Also I don’t want to let this one defeat me - it looks so cool it would be a shame to bin it.
I just bought the 2012 genius 40, basically mint for $450. I was worried, but damn, it Flys. I had a 29er, but I like my 26s. Personally, preference.
It really does fly doesn't it? That's an extremely good price considering what they sold for when new. I still enjoy giving this one a good hammering, even though I still haven't sorted out that crazy rear shock...
@@red_dread I put 400psi in my shock. Can you switch what type of riding you want on the handle bars (regular, stiff, and lockout)?
@@ericjohn5461It's insane how much pressure those shocks need isn't it? Yes, mine does have the multi-position selector lever. Until I get my shock properly serviced I use mine in the middle setting because it bottoms out too easily.
@red_dread I just got the psi specs from dt swiss today. I'm 220lbs, so I need 350psi in the positive and 230psi in the negative. I just bought a 600psi fox pump on ebay for $35. What's your weight?
@@red_dread or better yet. What's your email? I'll send you the PDF they sent me. It tells you everything.