I feel like, in America anyways, iPhone versus Android for privacy doesn't even matter considering every big cell phone carrier is giving your data to the government directly
In Norway there si something called Bank ID. It is issued by the bank and it is used for everything governmental where you need to log in sam as to your bank. In the they was small device, keycode generator. Then it was possible to use it on phones (any type!) trough SIM toolkit. I remember wondering what was that on my Nokia 3310. :-) But now, from 1st of September they are turning off SIM toolkit option, but lucky us, we have app for that shit now. I guess we are lucky until they don't turn off keycode generator.
We still have "calculators" to generate Secret Codes in France (looks like a little calculator that you stick your card in), but those are being rapidly replaced by smartphone apps. :(
@@ScottiesTech We have type without card, it is just generating code on press of the button. That type of "calculator" with bank card in it I have for Croatian bank. I have to agree that they are pushing everything to damn apps. 😕
Man i discovered your channel because of this video! Im alao on similar path as you. I own xiaomi phone and an iPad. My next phone probably be an iphone. Ive been on both side for long enough to understand them and i prefer IOS.(I can't believe I'm saying this cus I used to be a hater of apple.
Personally, I'm utilizing the beta DuckDuckGo feature to block 3rd party trackers via blocking those connections from leaving the device in the first place, on top of having my default search engine set to DuckDuckGo (whom don't keep track of who makes the searches, and get the results via Bing, without the filter bubble interfering with the results), plus more. It's useful. I definitely don't trust iOS, and actually trust it less than Android. Also, I need the customization Android offers, just like ease of Windows, and there are several applications I need that simply aren't available on iOS but are available on Android. I skip Samsung and others that give the excess bloatware, just like ones lacking physical buttons and charging cords. Currently I'm using Motorola's phones (actually still using Android 9 on phones from just before Lenovo bought the company, as the newer ones from every company keep being garbage in my opinion).
Somehow IOS is, let's say, bluffing. When I had an iPhone we would catch the recorder recording periodically and other times we would see the camera light on; it really freaked us out. There is no way anyone could have accessed my phone to put spyware on it. Also, you have to wonder why the Simpson's TV Show did a show with them walking down the street with an Android and all the businesses have signs that say, "No Androids Allowed". / Thanks, for all do, love your channel; and, Congratulations on your marriage!
Great, youtube keeps removing this comment... let's see what will stick Regarding G ac on android - you don't need one. Aurora stor from f-droid can get and update apps from G's PS. If the app still complains that it was not from G's PS, get the apk using aurora and look up pm command (using adb shell - pm -i something)
*wow, the timing!* 😮 i just got my first ever smartphone less than a week ago because like you i could participate in less and less activities of daily life. 😅 i chose a fairphone 4 (so android) because i liked the idea of it lasting a long time (probably not as long as my dumbphone though which lasted almost 20 years 🤭). i am currently in the process of turning everything off that i possibly can as well. i now will also use flight mode before turning the phone off. 👍🏼 naomi brockwell also has some helpful content (for non-techies like me) that i need to rewatch. ✨
The easiest way to transfer files back and forth between a Linux or Windows PC and an Android device is to use KDE Connect. So long as both devices are connected to the same wifi network and are paired the sharing is easy and wireless. The transfer takes place solely over your network.
If you use Gmail via the Apple Mail app, then no, that's very different. Of course, everything that goes thru Gmail is scanned and mined for data, but the Gmail APP is way worse.
Sometimes I use an android emulator on my desktop PC, for those cursed banking apps! The thing that pisses me off, is this new trend of banking institutions to force everyone to go trough Google Pay or Apple pay, that makes me to use debit cards just to avoid giving my data to Google or Apple!
Scottie, thanks for making the video! As far as I know, I have never watched your channel before and found this video a good rundown of the issue from an angle that the "normal" person can understand. I have had experience with both Android and iOS on both phones and tablets for at least the last ten years. I worked for a time for a company that did software testing, with some work on both platforms. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. My personal use of Android and iOS phones started with Android, went to iOS for a while when I got into a phase where I wanted to test out Apple gear, then back to Android recently. I was drawn to Android initially by the lower cost, then drawn to iOS as I got a Macbook, getting me into the Apple ecosystem or device sphere. Somewhat later, I got an iPad Mini then an iPhone. I have also used Linux extensively at a moderate level (I am no developer or software guru/hacker), using many different distros and learning how to do modifications to the user interface. I feel like I have a reasonable, but by no means extensive/intimate, level of understanding of these platforms. I have recently moved back toward Android for mobile use (though still using Linux for desktop use). Reasons I moved back toward Android are as follows: 1. Sideloading: I wanted to be able to install whatever applications I desired to my device. This is easy to do on Android and basically (as yet) impossible on iOS, at least without jailbreaking. I don't like the fact that Apple can limit apps solely to the App Store and that they have total control over which apps are allowed on their devices. Rubs me the wrong way. I also have been upset about Apple's decisions to ban apps off the App Store in China (maybe elsewhere) at the request of authoritarian governments, often in an attempt to clamp down on protest. Stated simply, Apple can control your application choices. 2. File system access: I like that with Android I can simply plug my device up to my computer (specifically Linux, but also Windows if desired) and access the Android device's entire filesystem directly. This, outside of access to photos, is essentially difficult to impossible on Linux and overly restrictive on Windows with iOS. I don't like that I have to use iTunes to transfer data between Windows and iOS devices. I don't like that it is seemingly impossible to just copy a folder over from Windows to iOS through iTunes (They want you to copy over one file at a time which is extremely inconvenient). With Android, file system access on Linux is essentially just like plugging in an external hard drive when you connect your Android device. All that being said, privacy is what you make of it. No device, no matter how secure and private the OS/software is, is truly private if it is connected to a network. Practice best security practices for your particular use and enjoy whichever mobile OS you prefer using.
I use Telegram on both iOS and Android devices. Some pics and videos are not "allowed" to be saved in iOS but no issue at all for Android. Apple is either actively monitoring your iPhone or have modified the App store version Telegram. Privacy for Apple device is just as bad as Android.
This represents my thoughts as well. I don't see Google's Android as a more private solution, they sell all data and search history instantly to 3rd parties.
And re lineageos message problems, just open an issue on los gitlab. I've encountered similiar edgecase on one speciffic device-carrier combination and after providing log cats, it got fixed in the next update by the maintainer.
Yes, I would like to know why not too. I have a lot of theories, which is why I have an Android. Two and two just don't add up, though I wish I didn't need either one.
Thanks Thanks Scottie, have been using iOS and Apple devices for 15 years since I go out of the corporate environment and yes, Apple is on more user friendly but much safer security wise. I have an iPhone 13, an Apple iPad Pro and an Apple MacBook Pro and they all talk to each other (when I tell them to) and life has become a lot easier. As you said, you must be careful when using apps, I keep Google off each device by using other search engines whenever possible. I have never had a breach and have much less intrusion, much less ads and get updates from the latest iOS as to how many trackers they have blocked, something you won’t get from any other provider. I also took precautions to make sure iOS security is set to the most secure (if there is such a thing)! Thanks for your videos and thoughtful suggestions.
Congratulations Again.!!!... Wow... Thanks for Pegasus information... I use Motorola cuz it's more basic.... But I 1st go through & disable every app I don't want... Including Google Play Store.... That I can enable the few times I need it.... I don't do Social Media... Except Gmail - UA-cam... Not the app.... I don't add apps - I go to sites through Search... I direct all my photos to SD Card that I can remove.... Apple won't allow SD or Head Phone Jack that I use at the Library ( I use library computers).... I won't use Cloud... I want to be able to save my own stuff... I take screenshots of articles & when my phone begins to fill up..... I replace the device & remove my sim - hopefully keeping my information available to me..... I get new phones cheaper on ebay... I don't pretend it's really private... I just keep it boring & switch out the phone yearly...
Without more details the tracker location study sounds flawed. If it was based on geo ip look up of course they are going to have a US IP address. Otherwise you risk your telemetry data getting flagged by corporate firewalls.
You believe me I watched phone was turned on and received the call automatically. It was controlled totally from the telecommunications company. But nobody believe. At that time I was alone in my room
My Samsung A40 has 356 system apps that are hidden and uninstalable. The reason I know is that when this apps get updated I receive a notification from an app I have.
I’m getting 2 tin cans & a piece of string and a spear to poke anyones eye out who looks over my shoulder 🤡 Just kidding after years on android now have iPhone And prefer it
Apple phones really aren’t more expensive, especially you get one subsidized with a carrier plan. The other thing you can do is get an unlocked older model, even one a couple years old will last you another 5 years.
@@ScottiesTech I have a smart phone with no sim that i leave at home and only use with wifi (to use with the annoying banks that insist on 2fa apps and banking apps)..... when i make/take calls and leave the house, I take my dumb phone. When I'm not using the banking apps, The smart phone is off. So maybe my "ditch your smartphone" wasnt completely honest, because as you say, its quite difficult. Ditch it for use as an actual telephone/tracking/spying device is what i really should have said.
My history goes back to 386/486 computing days. At first most people living in the country were not able to connect except for using a dial-up service and then going to a bulletin board. Over time the system got better and went toward sky connections. The troubling thing for me .. now looking back .. is that it seems like they have used undercover FBI personnel to set up country communication systems .. educating the youth to play video games .. who then would encourage their parents to get a home computer and become tech savvy to some extent. Much of this has all been done using our own money .. through taxation as well as subscription services. Seems to me .. they are violating stalking laws. Recently I entered a friendly contest .. building a bicycle powered machine. After creating a video for the contest .. I sent it through my gmail account to the person in the UK .. also with a gmail account .. so they could upload it for the contest. When they uploaded the video to their channel .. at the end of the video .. it posted two popup video links to my UA-cam account. I was "shocked" .. bc I had no intention for that to happen. In fact I didn't want ANY links at the end of the video .. so I played around with my account and got links to my videos to disappear .. but then there were links to the other contestants .. which would have drawn attention to the competition .. so I went back and made my videos visible again. This is maddening stuff. Highly frustrating .. someone of us out here in the "real world" needs to change this .. I think it could be done .. so where is the OPENSource Will?? I would like to encourage you to go to a channel called: "Bright Insight" on YT .. and hear what Jimmy has to say about how the search engines are deleting the internet. His last two videos cover this. I would like to also suggest that you look up "panquake" and see what they are creating.
The way I understand it; The .5 seconds after typing "Goo.." into *whatever* branded device, you lose privacy. They are the super snoopers. Have to be careful with your email service and search use.
I feel like, in America anyways, iPhone versus Android for privacy doesn't even matter considering every big cell phone carrier is giving your data to the government directly
True! But I’m still going back to a flip phone. I’ve had enough technology. And it’s going to get worse.
In Norway there si something called Bank ID. It is issued by the bank and it is used for everything governmental where you need to log in sam as to your bank. In the they was small device, keycode generator. Then it was possible to use it on phones (any type!) trough SIM toolkit. I remember wondering what was that on my Nokia 3310. :-) But now, from 1st of September they are turning off SIM toolkit option, but lucky us, we have app for that shit now. I guess we are lucky until they don't turn off keycode generator.
We still have "calculators" to generate Secret Codes in France (looks like a little calculator that you stick your card in), but those are being rapidly replaced by smartphone apps. :(
@@ScottiesTech We have type without card, it is just generating code on press of the button.
That type of "calculator" with bank card in it I have for Croatian bank.
I have to agree that they are pushing everything to damn apps. 😕
Man i discovered your channel because of this video! Im alao on similar path as you. I own xiaomi phone and an iPad. My next phone probably be an iphone. Ive been on both side for long enough to understand them and i prefer IOS.(I can't believe I'm saying this cus I used to be a hater of apple.
Personally, I'm utilizing the beta DuckDuckGo feature to block 3rd party trackers via blocking those connections from leaving the device in the first place, on top of having my default search engine set to DuckDuckGo (whom don't keep track of who makes the searches, and get the results via Bing, without the filter bubble interfering with the results), plus more. It's useful. I definitely don't trust iOS, and actually trust it less than Android. Also, I need the customization Android offers, just like ease of Windows, and there are several applications I need that simply aren't available on iOS but are available on Android. I skip Samsung and others that give the excess bloatware, just like ones lacking physical buttons and charging cords. Currently I'm using Motorola's phones (actually still using Android 9 on phones from just before Lenovo bought the company, as the newer ones from every company keep being garbage in my opinion).
Android but only because its easy to degoogle
Haven't seen or heard iOS and 'privacy' in one sentence. Ever.
LOL
Somehow IOS is, let's say, bluffing. When I had an iPhone we would catch the recorder recording periodically and other times we would see the camera light on; it really freaked us out. There is no way anyone could have accessed my phone to put spyware on it. Also, you have to wonder why the Simpson's TV Show did a show with them walking down the street with an Android and all the businesses have signs that say, "No Androids Allowed". / Thanks, for all do, love your channel; and, Congratulations on your marriage!
At night, pop your sim card out instead of turning the phone off. The carrier cannot get any data without it.
Great, youtube keeps removing this comment... let's see what will stick
Regarding G ac on android - you don't need one. Aurora stor from f-droid can get and update apps from G's PS. If the app still complains that it was not from G's PS, get the apk using aurora and look up pm command (using adb shell - pm -i something)
So rere are the words youtube doesn't seem to like in comments (backwards):
G's PS - "erotsyalp"
G ac - "tnuocca elgoog"
"llatsni"
i think android but thats my opinion
*wow, the timing!* 😮
i just got my first ever smartphone less than a week ago because like you i could participate in less and less activities of daily life. 😅 i chose a fairphone 4 (so android) because i liked the idea of it lasting a long time (probably not as long as my dumbphone though which lasted almost 20 years 🤭). i am currently in the process of turning everything off that i possibly can as well. i now will also use flight mode before turning the phone off. 👍🏼
naomi brockwell also has some helpful content (for non-techies like me) that i need to rewatch. ✨
The easiest way to transfer files back and forth between a Linux or Windows PC and an Android device is to use KDE Connect. So long as both devices are connected to the same wifi network and are paired the sharing is easy and wireless. The transfer takes place solely over your network.
If I use Gmail on my Mac Os, does that mean I've installed a Google App? -thx
If you use Gmail via the Apple Mail app, then no, that's very different. Of course, everything that goes thru Gmail is scanned and mined for data, but the Gmail APP is way worse.
Android also has a privacy manager where you can grant and deny every single apps all kinds of different rights. Just to be complete
Sometimes I use an android emulator on my desktop PC, for those cursed banking apps! The thing that pisses me off, is this new trend of banking institutions to force everyone to go trough Google Pay or Apple pay, that makes me to use debit cards just to avoid giving my data to Google or Apple!
D'OH! Android emulator! Why didn't I think of that?!
Apple does not have the same attitude to government agencies in china so no apple is not this ethical noble company.
No doubt!! It's a corporation, first and foremost...
Scottie, thanks for making the video! As far as I know, I have never watched your channel before and found this video a good rundown of the issue from an angle that the "normal" person can understand.
I have had experience with both Android and iOS on both phones and tablets for at least the last ten years. I worked for a time for a company that did software testing, with some work on both platforms. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. My personal use of Android and iOS phones started with Android, went to iOS for a while when I got into a phase where I wanted to test out Apple gear, then back to Android recently. I was drawn to Android initially by the lower cost, then drawn to iOS as I got a Macbook, getting me into the Apple ecosystem or device sphere. Somewhat later, I got an iPad Mini then an iPhone. I have also used Linux extensively at a moderate level (I am no developer or software guru/hacker), using many different distros and learning how to do modifications to the user interface. I feel like I have a reasonable, but by no means extensive/intimate, level of understanding of these platforms. I have recently moved back toward Android for mobile use (though still using Linux for desktop use). Reasons I moved back toward Android are as follows: 1. Sideloading: I wanted to be able to install whatever applications I desired to my device. This is easy to do on Android and basically (as yet) impossible on iOS, at least without jailbreaking. I don't like the fact that Apple can limit apps solely to the App Store and that they have total control over which apps are allowed on their devices. Rubs me the wrong way. I also have been upset about Apple's decisions to ban apps off the App Store in China (maybe elsewhere) at the request of authoritarian governments, often in an attempt to clamp down on protest. Stated simply, Apple can control your application choices. 2. File system access: I like that with Android I can simply plug my device up to my computer (specifically Linux, but also Windows if desired) and access the Android device's entire filesystem directly. This, outside of access to photos, is essentially difficult to impossible on Linux and overly restrictive on Windows with iOS. I don't like that I have to use iTunes to transfer data between Windows and iOS devices. I don't like that it is seemingly impossible to just copy a folder over from Windows to iOS through iTunes (They want you to copy over one file at a time which is extremely inconvenient). With Android, file system access on Linux is essentially just like plugging in an external hard drive when you connect your Android device.
All that being said, privacy is what you make of it. No device, no matter how secure and private the OS/software is, is truly private if it is connected to a network. Practice best security practices for your particular use and enjoy whichever mobile OS you prefer using.
Dude setup a patreon pretty sure your audience would be happy to chip in for an iPhone, in exchange for a few extra videos a year.
I use Telegram on both iOS and Android devices. Some pics and videos are not "allowed" to be saved in iOS but no issue at all for Android. Apple is either actively monitoring your iPhone or have modified the App store version Telegram. Privacy for Apple device is just as bad as Android.
This represents my thoughts as well. I don't see Google's Android as a more private solution, they sell all data and search history instantly to 3rd parties.
is there some sort of electronic wallet that can be separate from your phone totally on a another device that is not a phone ? that is portable ?
I wish!
You have become an IOS fan Congratulations 🤣
Well, I dunno... The lesser of two evils can't really make me a fan! I'd be happiest with neither.
@@ScottiesTech Wow, just my words. Let's hope that when the Quantum system is implemented there is no need to spy on people. Thanks for your videos. 💖
Miui damn. That’s a blast from the past. I remember rooting back in 2010 or so and loading up miui around that time.
And re lineageos message problems, just open an issue on los gitlab. I've encountered similiar edgecase on one speciffic device-carrier combination and after providing log cats, it got fixed in the next update by the maintainer.
Scottie ! , I speechless , can't believe it :) , me myself don't like those new technologies and traps , this is the world these days :)
This was great. Thank you.
So, sounds like if I ever need a cell phone I will definitely be getting a Vine.
Google Pixel with GrapheneOS
GrapheneOS is great. I've been using it for about a year without any problems. It must receive system updates once or twice a week.
👍👍👍
Never buy an Iphone
Why not?
Yes, I would like to know why not too. I have a lot of theories, which is why I have an Android. Two and two just don't add up, though I wish I didn't need either one.
Thanks
Thanks Scottie, have been using iOS and Apple devices for 15 years since I go out of the corporate environment and yes, Apple is on more user friendly but much safer security wise. I have an iPhone 13, an Apple iPad Pro and an Apple MacBook Pro and they all talk to each other (when I tell them to) and life has become a lot easier. As you said, you must be careful when using apps, I keep Google off each device by using other search engines whenever possible. I have never had a breach and have much less intrusion, much less ads and get updates from the latest iOS as to how many trackers they have blocked, something you won’t get from any other provider. I also took precautions to make sure iOS security is set to the most secure (if there is such a thing)! Thanks for your videos and thoughtful suggestions.
Congratulations Again.!!!...
Wow... Thanks for Pegasus information...
I use Motorola cuz it's more basic....
But I 1st go through & disable every app I don't want...
Including Google Play Store.... That I can enable the few times I need it.... I don't do Social Media...
Except Gmail - UA-cam... Not the app....
I don't add apps - I go to sites through Search...
I direct all my photos to SD Card that I can remove....
Apple won't allow SD or Head Phone Jack that I use at the Library ( I use library computers)....
I won't use Cloud... I want to be able to save my own stuff... I take screenshots of articles & when my phone begins to fill up..... I replace the device & remove my sim - hopefully keeping my information available to me..... I get new phones cheaper on ebay... I don't pretend it's really private... I just keep it boring & switch out the phone yearly...
Without more details the tracker location study sounds flawed.
If it was based on geo ip look up of course they are going to have a US IP address. Otherwise you risk your telemetry data getting flagged by corporate firewalls.
You believe me
I watched phone was turned on and received the call automatically. It was controlled totally from the telecommunications company. But nobody believe. At that time I was alone in my room
My Samsung A40 has 356 system apps that are hidden and uninstalable. The reason I know is that when this apps get updated I receive a notification from an app I have.
I just learned that Google pays Apple Billions to become Iphones default Search Engine....
you would probably like Xiaomi Qin F22 Pro...i am using it for some time now...and i like smart functionality in small factor case...very good made
I’m getting 2 tin cans & a piece of string and a spear to poke anyones eye out who looks over my shoulder 🤡
Just kidding after years on android now have iPhone And prefer it
Apple phones really aren’t more expensive, especially you get one subsidized with a carrier plan. The other thing you can do is get an unlocked older model, even one a couple years old will last you another 5 years.
Thank You . . .
Good morning Cletus and Scottie! Grabbing my coffee and catching up❤️🖖🏻
GrapheneOS
You can set what the default usb connection is through the developer options
And they have 5,5” phones. For me that’s a must.
Scotty I feel your plight - but for downloading apps from the playstore you don't technically "need" to login ... *Cough*aurora*cough*
Unfortunately, my banking app doesn't work via Aurora. They did something to "maintain security"...
answer: Neither. Ditch your smart phone.
The most honest answer.
Except that, as I mentioned, I can't... All banks here are the same. Use our app, or you can't do anything - even for online purchases (even Amazon)!
@@ScottiesTech I have a smart phone with no sim that i leave at home and only use with wifi (to use with the annoying banks that insist on 2fa apps and banking apps)..... when i make/take calls and leave the house, I take my dumb phone. When I'm not using the banking apps, The smart phone is off. So maybe my "ditch your smartphone" wasnt completely honest, because as you say, its quite difficult. Ditch it for use as an actual telephone/tracking/spying device is what i really should have said.
My history goes back to 386/486 computing days. At first most people living in the country were not able to connect except for using a dial-up service and then going to a bulletin board. Over time the system got better and went toward sky connections. The troubling thing for me .. now looking back .. is that it seems like they have used undercover FBI personnel to set up country communication systems .. educating the youth to play video games .. who then would encourage their parents to get a home computer and become tech savvy to some extent. Much of this has all been done using our own money .. through taxation as well as subscription services. Seems to me .. they are violating stalking laws.
Recently I entered a friendly contest .. building a bicycle powered machine. After creating a video for the contest .. I sent it through my gmail account to the person in the UK .. also with a gmail account .. so they could upload it for the contest. When they uploaded the video to their channel .. at the end of the video .. it posted two popup video links to my UA-cam account. I was "shocked" .. bc I had no intention for that to happen. In fact I didn't want ANY links at the end of the video .. so I played around with my account and got links to my videos to disappear .. but then there were links to the other contestants .. which would have drawn attention to the competition .. so I went back and made my videos visible again. This is maddening stuff. Highly frustrating .. someone of us out here in the "real world" needs to change this .. I think it could be done .. so where is the OPENSource Will??
I would like to encourage you to go to a channel called: "Bright Insight" on YT .. and hear what Jimmy has to say about how the search engines are deleting the internet. His last two videos cover this.
I would like to also suggest that you look up "panquake" and see what they are creating.
The way I understand it;
The .5 seconds after typing "Goo.." into *whatever* branded device, you lose privacy. They are the super snoopers. Have to be careful with your email service and search use.