Kingdom Hearts Lore: Heartless & Nobodies
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2020
- Join True Masters & Morons as we go over the Heartless and the Nobodies, the two primary enemy types/factions from the Kingdom Hearts series.
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I just noticed that the heartless is a heart that fell into darkness with no body and a nobody is basicly a body that has no heart, their names are swapped.
You’re being to literal here man heartless act violently and aggressively on instinct they are heartless as in needlessly cruel
Nobodies have had the thing thay makes them a person and existence taken away from them meaning that by the logic of the world they should not exist like cold fire, they are no one no body
@@brownwindedangel yes. This is explained by Yen Sid and other characters.
@@brownwindedangel It still doesn’t make any sense.
A heartless is a heart that fell to darkness so think of it more so as a "Lesser Heart" lacking the full range of complete person
A nobody is what is left behind after the heart has left only carrying on with willpower but lacking the emotions and core of a person like a "Lesser Body"
Nobodys temporarly have no hearts. Memories forge new hearts for them so the memories of ther old life mixedwith the New experiences create New hearts for them.memories beeibg linked to the soul aka Heart( a concept that will becdevllept more in kh 4 as the first teaser teased the soul that resides inside the heart concept)
Will be recreatet from.memories after some time. Xemnas therfor Lied.
I like how this implies that there is literally no way to ever fully die in the kingdom hearts universe if you have a strong heart. If you die you form a heartless and a nobody. kill both those and ta-da you're back to your old self.
Not necessarily. If your Soul leaves your body you die, your Heart leaving your body and submitting to Darkness in Kingdom Hearts doesn't mean you die it means you become a Heartless, the leftover Body and Soul forms a Nobody.
Tl;dr
Lose your soul = Death
Lose you Heart = Heartless
@@meteornome2556 so don’t lose your soul. Got it
@@raheemaslam7363 i hope u played kh3.... if so click more
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sora basically gets this. he dies but not really. his soul is being held to his body by kairi.
he then does the same for everyone getting the hearts back to the bodies. held by kairi.
kairi is one strong girl....
Ho boy Darkroad has alot to say about that
It's stated that for one to truly die, their heart, body, and soul all have to be destroyed simultaneously. Death is still very much real, it's just less strict since eradication of any one part of a person at a time is not the end.
Heartless consume hearts is kinda the same as saying a heart consumed by darkness, they don't take it in as sustenance, they corrupt it to darkness and add it to their number.
Do keep in mind that the original organization XIII was only formed shortly before the first kingdom hearts game, I'd say at max they've been nobodies for a year, that being the longest amount of time I can imagine the heartless going wild in halowbastion without drawing attention to themselves.
Though this is completely head-canon, i would like to think that from the end of kh1 till the beginning of kh2, Sora was in a heartless like state. I see him similar to xehanort, a human like being of heart, and he got this state from Kairi’s princess of hearts power, which didn’t turn him back into a human, but merely restored a human like figure for him. Iirc, in com, Larxene says that Sora is the only other person aside from xehanort to keep a semblance of self as a heartless. And his body would technically be roxas at this point.
Except that real nobodies look like the person they came from while soras resembles ventus due to his nobodie not having a chance to take his body
Will Sora did have two hearts within himself his and Ventus’s
Nice video. I would also like to add that there is technically another person besides the princesses of heart that have no darkness in them, Ventus. Though, unlike the princesses, this was created artificially and instead of being born of pure light, his darkness was extracted leaving only light behind.
2:01 Correction the Kingdom Hearts made in the first game was created by the Heartless attacking the Hearts of Worlds not from people.
The whole “displays of emotion where just the nobodies remembering what it was like to have them” thing was revealed to be a lie. They were actually feeling real emotions because they were growing hearts. Xemnas was gaslighting them into believing into believing their emotions weren’t real to hamper the growth of their hearts as to make for easier vessels.
This also explains nobodies aging, as a body without a heart does not age (Ventus for example). But once they had hearts, their bodies started aging again.
No it wasn't a lie, Xemnas never says he lied to them Sora asserted it, Xemnas was being intentionally cryptic about things when talking to Sora to make him angry and trick him into delving further into darkness, they were remembering how to act human at the start, those who developed connections as nobodies would begin to nurture a new heart inside them, but everything they said about nobodies was true as far as they knew at the time.
Also they weren't nobodies for 10 years, they only become nobodies shortly before radiant garden falls, they aged as humans researching darkness, then became nobodies.
Thanks for the video guys. honestly the way I think about it the concept of heartless and nobodies sounds like it could be terrifying if put in like a horror setting or anything other setting. A corrupting influence that creates two separate monsters both of which start attacking other people trying to make themselves whole again spreading like a zombie plague
When you think about it, the heartless are absolutely fucking terrifying. I mean we see them from the perspective of sora so they’re generally considered to be jobbers, but think about it they are inter-dimensional creatures of pure darkness. They travel to hundreds of thousands potentially even millions of worlds, kill and devour the people there, and then destroy the world itself and they are able to do this Endlessly because they cannot be truly stopped
It took me twenty years and like ten playthroughs to figure this out.
I'm kind of curious about what happens if an Unversed somehow managed consume and heartless and nobody of the same person.
To be fair, most information we know about Nobody came from Xehanort first, who practically started by telling them what they are and that they are fake beings. While he wasn't wrong in saying they are a piece of someone else, telling them that they have no real heart or emotions was more a way to manipulate them into doing his bidding. Not only that, but at the time he was hiding himself away and saw just about everything from what he percieved as fact.
The closest we have to a "natural Nobody" (as in not tampered or manipulated by Xehanort in some shape or form) is Namine, who is still not a fully natural Nobody since she was fed the same information if only through the false Organization XIII.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that unless we meet a Nobody free from Xehanort's label and has a full humanoid/close-to-original form, we don't really know for sure what Natural Nobody are like or how they actually behave.
Makes me realize how much Xehanort messed with the world and how easily he manipulated almost everything into his favor... 😢
It is a metaphor for without a heart and thus no emotion how can you truly exist in the world.
i like how we have 10 lesser nobodies. each related to org 13 members.
my favourite was always samurai. and now i know why. its related to roxas. who duels with 2 swords and fights fairly.
Thanks for the upload!
When emblem heartless collect hearts the heartless produced also carry the emblem. Think of it like them being intercepted on their way to Kingdom Hearts and forced into a suit of darkness. Listen to Shedding Starlight episode on the heartless if interested
Remember there was a ten time frame between Brith by sleep and KH1 so some of the members of organization 13 before becoming Nobodies aged as regular people during most of those ten years.After becoming Nobodies they either stop aging or slowed to a crawl. Also Nobodies not be real and having no emotions was a lie Xemnas told in order to keep new hearts from being formed(except for Roxas, and Xemnas himself ironically ) I'm assuming Yin Sid and Ansem said they weren't real too because at the time the Nobodies were a threat that needed to dealt with and either they didn't know and or didn't care. Both these old guys have made mistakes or been wrong before.
It wasn't a lie, there just wasn't enough known about them at the time to know they could grow knew hearts, Xemnas was intentionally being cryptic when talking to Sora about this to draw him deeper into the darkness, but Ansem seeker of darkness, Xemnas, and assistant Xehanort were not fully aware of the real Xehanorts plans and were in fact attempting to piece together what they could about the nature of hearts and kingdom hearts from the fragmented memories they were able to gather through the research into the heart that the real Ansem had spear headed.
As time went on Xemnas may have realized certain nobodies were growing hearts through nurtured connections, but likely didn't seem it relevant as the goal to him was unlocking kingdom hearts.
That just makes me more curious with the other organization members who their heartless counterpart is.
9:25 Fake it 'til you make it?
Or, possibly "If we can care this much about pixels on screens why can't we care about the unfeeling?" maybe?
today years old when I found out about synthetic heartless n I been playin since kh2 came out
Kh logic is so chaotic
Issac sounds so tired and I completely understand.
What can you tell me about Mitochondria Eve from Parasite Eve?
A few corrections here from what i know the kingdom hearts in tje first game was made the hearts of the worlds the heartless took over, two dying naturally doesn’t make a heartless it just releases the heart, and three that heart is more than just the soul it the concept of being and existence itself so the reason nobodies are called that is because they by all logic of the world should not exist like a color you can’t imagine
Winne the pooh and friends are another exception
Can you makke a vidoe about darksiders genesis full lore story
2:10
Confirmed in the first visit of mulan's world
can tou go over the master of masters or luxu next
Ints going to be interesting going forward seeing as Xeanort is finally defeated will this be the end of the symbol heartless that means our fat boi and mage bugs will be gone in the next game or maybe see a greatly reduced number.
Actually Nobodies don't age, rather Zexion simply got older before becoming a Nobody/Heartless
Legacy of Kain timeline or the characters like kain PLEASE
If this series just used the term soul instead of heart, maybe it will be renamed Kingdom Soul
the problem is Soul is already a third distinct component in KH
Did you know Kentaro Miura is also a heartless?
Heartless looks like oswald 😱
Could you please do a metal gear solid video or a mass effect video.
I know this is irrelevant but I'm curious... Who would win between the heartless and the demons from Doom
As good as doom slayer is taking out demons, heartless themselves are more magical than physical. Several heartless types could overwhelm him or even attempt to change to his pet that died in order to throw him off guard.
@@feuxheartbreakerfox I meant the hordes of demons vs the hordes of Heartless.
@@shadowofdakness It’s a big question of whether demons can actually physically hurt the heartless, and even then the heartless can destroy whatever world their both in if they take too long to be dealt with.
Well good question but I'm going to have to go with the heartless if your talking about an all out war between the two in multiple ways for instance
1: the heartless are more mystical than physical meaning conventional weapons will do little to no damage to them at all while the demons of doom are killed with bullets. 2: the demons of doom have only portals to get in and out of earth and hell but doesn't mean that applies to other worlds they might not know those worlds (except there earth) even exist and the heartless can teleport in and out of worlds so they can under the right ruler can regroup at any time when the battle isn't looking well. 3: the heartless are drawn to the darkness in peoples hearts that includes humans, animals, aliens, and even toys and hell is full of demons which argue all you like but do have hearts which are consumed by darkness so if they try to escape back to hell the heartless will just fallow them their. The only thing that the demons have against them is magic and maybe the tech could help a little but if I be generous the heartless would win 95% of the time.
hmmm
I come here because I didn't understand it from playing the game...
To be quite honest I think that the "nobody doesn't exist" is more a barb than anything else
Yeah I always thought a bit like the same way as in the movies when some hacker or rich person says they could erase your information and make it seem like you never existed. That or like sora becomes a heartless and nobody and they say the person that was sora no longer exists
Its actually more complicated than that, the heart in KH is not the thing you would call a soul in other media its more the concept of you as an existent being even after your mind soul and body are gone your heart will remain so when nobodies lose that they lose the concept of existence itself. They’re like a trying to name a color that doesn’t exist or imagining what a sixth sense would be like, from the logic of the series everything that exist, even world have a heart so anything without it cannot and should not exist.
When in doubt always blame nomura for the cluster fuck known as the kingdom hearts story
Could you guys do a lore vid for Shin Megami Tensei IV?
Heartless are hearts… yeah because that makes fucking sense!
No. Heartless *devour* the hearts. They are *darkness given form.*
@@calebgoodman3028if heartless consumes heart then there are full of heart in darkness's belly.
they're called heartless because of their heartless personality
Wakfu lore
1:27 this is dumb, it should be the other way around
How can Sora become a single Heartless because he has two hearts? He could have make multiple heartless, but one Nobody (Roxas).
My theory is that Ventus' heart went to Roxas, which would also explain why he looks like Ventus even though he's sora's nobody
@@edgeofultima7483 Vanitas look like black hair Sora, but he come from Ventus' heart. So do not take character look at head value.
The Sora/Roxas/Ventus/Kairi/Namine Heartless/Nobody situation is a convoluted and tangled mess. When Sora turned into a heartless they all split off and did weird things before he was eventually recombined.
Vanitas looks like Sora because of the connection between Ventus and Sora hearts, this was confirmed by the devs and he had a different appearance before this.
Roxas looks like it also because of that connection and why his heart is capable of duel wielding keyblades is because it was mad from two Keyblade wielders, though it is thought the heart went with him and that is why he is more emotional than the other nobodys.
and yes this sort of implies that Roxas is sort of Ventus and Sora's son . Then you have Sora's gender bent clone that absorbed Sora memories(why looks like Kairi) that changed appearance depending on who looked at her(also gender)
Kairi heart due to being pure light went nope to becoming a heartless and returned to her body and still made a nobody( where the body came from is ??? and will since as shown with Terra you can separate a person will from their body and heart )