These details are crucial in bringing to awareness what is the foundation of Calvinist teachings. If the foundation is corrupt, nothing that is built on top can be a pure teaching
Loss of Salvation Theology (LOST) is 1 point Calvinism. It says you must endure in faithfulness or "continued faith" to be saved. It's Perseverance of the Saints, and it's a false gospel of works-salvation.
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.-Hebrews 13:5 He who has The Son has life and He never leaves.
It doesn't sound like David is consistent at all. On one hand I have listened to his videos where he criticizes and throws Luther under the bus for his belief in "easy believism" (supposedly), yet in this video he says he believed in "predestination" and that you would only be certain you were elect if you stayed faithful even onto death...and that manifest sin at the end would cut you off from the kingdom. which one is it? Easy believism or faith even to death? I'm confused.
Jesus talks of once saved always saved, only worded differently but same point, which likely is where Augustine takes this teaching from from? And this is Jesus proclaiming what His Father sent Him to accomplish as such! This is good!
Who isnt worried about any of these doctrines and packaged beliefs? Those who Know God and believe what He says, who love Him and seek to please Him in righteousness and good works, which, His Grace provides the power and freedom from sin to do. It is, personally, in my heart and in my imagination that when I am received Above that I will get to say "I'M HOME!!!" I will get to see my Lord and Savior Jesus face to Face and hug Him. It wont be the first time we have communed with each other or talked, it will just be in person. If that doesnt fit something similar to somebody then I'm concerned and wonder why? He Is in me by His Holy Spirit, that I know and couldn't deny if I had to. He speaks to me all day long, I call them heart whispers, and He has never been wrong. But to me Jesus is my Life and I am crucified with Him, it is not a religion or head-held beliefs. It is who and what I am, it is what I am given over to from my heart. My Father is God and I am His and He Is mine. He Wrote my name in Heaven Above and called me out to Himself, to forsake the desires and loves of this world and to His Kingdom, to desire His Kingdom and look for Him and, live forever. Because of how the name "Christian" has been so misused and falsely claimed, i now refer to myself as a "Keeper of the Faith", which, I discovered, is a great conversation. starter and makes a statement in itself.
As is this groups teachings, awesomeness. Only the truth will do and if we believe lies then are we truly the Lords? He has no lies in Him, no darkness whatsoever. He is the truth we live by. Righteousness is believing in Truth, unrighteousness is believing lies and heresies.
Jesus spoke on "OSAS" but in different wording, this would explain how Calvin, Augustine, and the like came across such a teaching, doesn't this seem most likely to you!?
Origen was a universalist. Some ancient Christian theologians (e.g., Origen) also conceived of a final “restoration” in which even devils, as well as humans, would be saved; this idea, called universalism, was condemned by the church as heresy.
As a new creation, can you return unto your mother's womb after being born, i.e. "born again"? No. If you are bought with a price, being Jesus' sacrificial Blood, when does that become not enough to cover the sin...does God give a refund to Jesus for the price he paid for our sins after one "loses salvation". Romans 7 says you still are torn between the spirit and the flesh the rest of your mortal life. Any other way is based on WORKS not soley on what Jesus Christ did for all. People are stupid and wicked, God had to make it easy for us or literally no one would make it. Thank You Jesus!!!
Jesus spoke of osas, likely where Calvin, Augustine, or anyone I suppose that speaks on this matter would have come to such a conclusion!, don't you agree!?
@@kimwestwood8840 Yeah they will give you a verse or multiple verses out of context. I’m giving this away sorry for the length of it. Denial of self is certainly not making it about self. A man with a cross is condemned by the world and we walk not after the flesh if the spirit of God be in us. The world makes it about self and calls it denial of self. Jesus said one must deny self, pick up their cross and follow Him and that is by faith alone in the finished work of Christ shed blood and death for our sins on the cross. By their fruits you shall know them easily because the measure they use is measured unto us and he who loves his brother abides in light. Also OSAS keeps His commandments and it is not by the works of the law. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.-James 3:18 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:-Romans 5:1 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.-John 15:2 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.-John 12:23-24 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.-John 15:8 Faith without works is dead being alone and being alone it abided alone. Faith alone therefore bares much fruit. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.-John 10:1 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.-Jeremiah 31:34 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.-Luke 10:30 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:-Mathew 13:7 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.-Luke 10:36-37 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.-Galatians 5:14 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.-John 12:23-24 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.-John 15:8 The crown of life…
"...he who believes in Me has everlasting life," John 6:47, and "shall never die." John 11:26. According to Jesus, once a person has everlasting life, that person always has everlasting life.
Scripture does not support Loss of Salvation Theology (LOST). Not a single verse in the Bible says you can lose salvation. It also does not matter what church "fathers" taught. God's word > their opinions. Anyone who reads scripture will find that LOST is a false gospel of works-salvation.
Faith is shown by our works, and since we have to persevere to the end, works do play a role in our salvation, although our walk with Jesus started with faith and repentance.
@@brothertaylor5238 It 100% does not say here one can lose salvation, nor is the passage about Soteriology. You’re imposing your presuppositional bias onto scripture due to a single word. You’re doing exactly what Calvinists and Roman Catholics do.
He who endures to the end will be saved. Salvation is attained at the end of our life. So it wouldn’t make sense for the Bible writers to say the words “lose your salvation”.
@@mikezbeatz7122 Jesus’ warning is for people like yourself. He says “I never knew you; depart from Me” to those who called him “Lord,” but never trusted in only Jesus, and instead relied on their works to save them. These are people who are trying to be their own saviors, and have not believed that Jesus is our only savior.
These details are crucial in bringing to awareness what is the foundation of Calvinist teachings. If the foundation is corrupt, nothing that is built on top can be a pure teaching
Amen brother.
The foundation of Augustine and Calvin and Hitler is Paul
Loss of Salvation Theology (LOST) is 1 point Calvinism.
It says you must endure in faithfulness or "continued faith" to be saved. It's Perseverance of the Saints, and it's a false gospel of works-salvation.
@@Benjamin-jo4rf Which Paul?
Excellent teaching. Thank you, David Bercot!
Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.-Hebrews 13:5
He who has The Son has life and He never leaves.
It doesn't sound like David is consistent at all. On one hand I have listened to his videos where he criticizes and throws Luther under the bus for his belief in "easy believism" (supposedly), yet in this video he says he believed in "predestination" and that you would only be certain you were elect if you stayed faithful even onto death...and that manifest sin at the end would cut you off from the kingdom.
which one is it? Easy believism or faith even to death? I'm confused.
Jesus talks of once saved always saved, only worded differently but same point, which likely is where Augustine takes this teaching from from? And this is Jesus proclaiming what His Father sent Him to accomplish as such!
This is good!
Who isnt worried about any of these doctrines and packaged beliefs? Those who Know God and believe what He says, who love Him and seek to please Him in righteousness and good works, which, His Grace provides the power and freedom from sin to do.
It is, personally, in my heart and in my imagination that when I am received Above that I will get to say "I'M HOME!!!" I will get to see my Lord and Savior Jesus face to Face and hug Him. It wont be the first time we have communed with each other or talked, it will just be in person.
If that doesnt fit something similar to somebody then I'm concerned and wonder why? He Is in me by His Holy Spirit, that I know and couldn't deny if I had to. He speaks to me all day long, I call them heart whispers, and He has never been wrong.
But to me Jesus is my Life and I am crucified with Him, it is not a religion or head-held beliefs. It is who and what I am, it is what I am given over to from my heart. My Father is God and I am His and He Is mine. He Wrote my name in Heaven Above and called me out to Himself, to forsake the desires and loves of this world and to His Kingdom, to desire His Kingdom and look for Him and, live forever.
Because of how the name "Christian" has been so misused and falsely claimed, i now refer to myself as a "Keeper of the Faith", which, I discovered, is a great conversation. starter and makes a statement in itself.
As is this groups teachings, awesomeness. Only the truth will do and if we believe lies then are we truly the Lords? He has no lies in Him, no darkness whatsoever. He is the truth we live by. Righteousness is believing in Truth, unrighteousness is believing lies and heresies.
Jesus spoke on "OSAS" but in different wording, this would explain how Calvin, Augustine, and the like came across such a teaching, doesn't this seem most likely to you!?
How often did you lose your salvation already?
Origen was a universalist. Some ancient Christian theologians (e.g., Origen) also conceived of a final “restoration” in which even devils, as well as humans, would be saved; this idea, called universalism, was condemned by the church as heresy.
Origen actually didn't teach it.
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As a new creation, can you return unto your mother's womb after being born, i.e. "born again"? No.
If you are bought with a price, being Jesus' sacrificial Blood, when does that become not enough to cover the sin...does God give a refund to Jesus for the price he paid for our sins after one "loses salvation".
Romans 7 says you still are torn between the spirit and the flesh the rest of your mortal life. Any other way is based on WORKS not soley on what Jesus Christ did for all. People are stupid and wicked, God had to make it easy for us or literally no one would make it. Thank You Jesus!!!
Augustine did not teach “OSAS” but Calvin invented it.
Jesus spoke of osas, likely where Calvin, Augustine, or anyone I suppose that speaks on this matter would have come to such a conclusion!, don't you agree!?
@@MrYourup1 Jesus did not teach “OSAS.” Calvin invented the doctrine.
@@marteld2108 He did! His Father taught Him , then He spoke these words! Do you not know where to find them?! I can show you if not!?
@@MrYourup1 Augustine was a Catholic Bishop. He did not teach “OSAS.”
Are you a Jehovah's Witness?
All I see is OSAS when I read the Bible. Ask me what something means I’ll look at it and tell you.
I agree!!! Jesus taught eternal life, gives eternal life and security. The confusion comes from taking verses OUT of context.
@@kimwestwood8840 Yeah they will give you a verse or multiple verses out of context. I’m giving this away sorry for the length of it. Denial of self is certainly not making it about self. A man with a cross is condemned by the world and we walk not after the flesh if the spirit of God be in us. The world makes it about self and calls it denial of self. Jesus said one must deny self, pick up their cross and follow Him and that is by faith alone in the finished work of Christ shed blood and death for our sins on the cross. By their fruits you shall know them easily because the measure they use is measured unto us and he who loves his brother abides in light. Also OSAS keeps His commandments and it is not by the works of the law.
And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.-James 3:18
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:-Romans 5:1
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.-John 15:2
And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.-John 12:23-24
Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.-John 15:8
Faith without works is dead being alone and being alone it abided alone. Faith alone therefore bares much fruit.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.-John 10:1
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.-Jeremiah 31:34
And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.-Luke 10:30
And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:-Mathew 13:7
Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.-Luke 10:36-37
For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.-Galatians 5:14
And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.-John 12:23-24
Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.-John 15:8
The crown of life…
@@kimwestwood8840 amen
"...he who believes in Me has everlasting life," John 6:47, and "shall never die." John 11:26.
According to Jesus, once a person has everlasting life, that person always has everlasting life.
Sorry to tell you but the doctrine of osas is not enough to allow grateful dead fans into heaven. Unless, they are pigpen fans.
@Benjamin-jo4rf that's a good one!
Scripture does not support Loss of Salvation Theology (LOST). Not a single verse in the Bible says you can lose salvation.
It also does not matter what church "fathers" taught. God's word > their opinions.
Anyone who reads scripture will find that LOST is a false gospel of works-salvation.
Faith is shown by our works, and since we have to persevere to the end, works do play a role in our salvation, although our walk with Jesus started with faith and repentance.
“having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.”
1 Timothy 5:12 KJV
This verse says you can lose your salvation.
@@brothertaylor5238 It 100% does not say here one can lose salvation, nor is the passage about Soteriology. You’re imposing your presuppositional bias onto scripture due to a single word.
You’re doing exactly what Calvinists and Roman Catholics do.
He who endures to the end will be saved.
Salvation is attained at the end of our life. So it wouldn’t make sense for the Bible writers to say the words “lose your salvation”.
@@mikezbeatz7122 Jesus’ warning is for people like yourself. He says “I never knew you; depart from Me” to those who called him “Lord,” but never trusted in only Jesus, and instead relied on their works to save them. These are people who are trying to be their own saviors, and have not believed that Jesus is our only savior.