B-737NG Crosswind Landings From the Cockpit!
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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Please check out Bernhard's YT channel here. Lot's of great cockpit landing videos.
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Nailed landing and no small talk while doing so. I like it, I like it a lot.
A real eye opener for a mainly terrestrial who just occasionally rides in the back. A lot going on up front, gives some appreciation of and much respect for what is, thankyou😊
Hardest working man on the internet, thank you
Considering that Crosswind-this Pilot did a Great job!
I’ll just add a little theory to why he may have landed left of the centre line with a crosswind landing! Judging by few features in the cockpit and the FOs EFB it appears he flys for the same low cost operator that I do! As an operator we aren’t actually approved to do the wing low technique. I understand it’s to mitigate against an engine strike. Although I understand in certain conditions with the 737 you’re more likely to strike the trailing edge flaps on the ground. This may be specific to us as I note 3 landing techniques are mentioned in the 737 FCTM. So primarily we’re trained to either land with crab in less than braking action good runway levels or to decrab in the flare with simultaneous rudder and elevator application. This inevitably leads to a bit of drift while doing it so you aim to just slightly be left or right of the centre line depending on wind direction when initiating the decrab manoeuvre.
5feetgoaround fullflapsC150 yes like I say some airlines may be approved to do the wing low method for landing as it is mentioned in the 737 flight crew training manual (FCTM) but my airline is not approved to do it to mitigate against an engine strike to the ground. It appears as if this pilot operates for the same airline as me so we won’t try that method. Regarding maximum bank angle there is a chart in the FCTM that shows what the maximum bank angle can be before something on the aircraft touches the ground. It shows what touches the ground and what angle it does so Varies with pitch angle. To give an example it shows that with a 10degree nose up pitch angle the flap track fairing will touch the ground with a bank angle of 11 degrees. I would say a typical landing attitude would be about 3 degrees pitch up so according to the chart would result in the same flap track faring to touch the ground with a 16 degree bank angle. Interestingly the nose has to be 1 degree up or less to cause the engine to touch the ground. And in all cases for that to happen it would require at least 11 degrees of bank angle to cause it. Regarding maximum crab angle I can’t see one stated. But they do say the aircraft is approved to land on a dry runway at maximum crosswind limit even with not removing the crab before touchdown Whatever crab angle that results in. Obviously it would result in control difficulties after touching down because it will want to start immediately tracking where the gear is pointing and make for a pretty uncomfortable experience for the passengers. However it still designed to take it.
Here at PER YPPH With the gusty XW we get here every pilot keeps a low windward wing or its a go around.
From an amateur to a pro in 20 minutes. I love doing that in my imagination heart beats and all. This is the best way for nobodies like me to feel like somebody. It's fun I really enjoyed the lesson. Thanks
i'M sitting here smiling buddy. Good memories. I missed the 737 trim noises compared to the quiet Airbus. I think it gives you better situational awareness. That was nice of 1000 Landings to loan that video. Thanks again Juan, for sharing. RIDERS IN THE STORM lol
So we know that on any 707, 727 and 737, there are situations when a runaway stabilizer cannot be manually / mechanically survived even with attempts to use the “roller coaster technique”. So what is the Air Bus “fly by wire” back up plan for a runaway stabilizer situation when, for whatever reason, the motor on the jack screw screws up (or down 😹)?
Riders On the Storm. Perfect choice of music!
I was only a PPL pilot, sold DV20 Katana and HK36 Super Dimona, back then tailwheel. Have 700 hours, 2500 landings. I see how much input the PIC makes, but the plane keeps straight and level. No oversteering, no overcompensating, he's always in command! Excellent landing!
liked the giggle at the end by the pilot...he was a smooth operator riding on that storm.
No I am not an airline pilot, but I did stay a Holiday Inn Express....and watch Juan show me around his office. Too cool sir.
I was fascinated more with the countryside they were flying over. That’s what makes flying an aircraft so wonderful when you have view
Wow “Riders On The Storm” perfectly timed Jaun!! Gave me the shivers 😁
Outstanding touchdown !! Very smooth. Passengers would be freaking out if they could see that yoke work lol
This jet isn't as far off centerline as it may appear at touchdown. In a heavy crosswind situation like this, the cockpit necessarily will be positioned upwind of the runway centerline, which will place the main gear directly ON the centerline of the runway. I know what y'all are thinking "but hey Bill, he decrabbed the jet in the roundout" - yes - BUT not completely. Many 737 pilots will take some advantage of a little known feature it has called "crosswind gear". It's a neat feature of the 737 that allows the main gear to actually swivel side-to-side (in yaw) to a limited degree, allowing the main wheels to assume a crab-angle in crosswind operations. So if you don't totally nail runway alignment on touchdown the crosswind gear will simply roll straight anyway. It might seem a little goofy, but let me tell you it works. In this example, you can see Bernhard touching down with just a little crab still in there, and the gear just takes it no issue. It even maintains the slight crab angle well into the rollout, after touchdown. This is typical "Guppy" (our nickname for the 737) behavior. Big picture: In heavy crosswinds, pro pilots favor the upwind side of centerline. Couple this flying skill with a great jet, and you have a winner. 30 knot crosswind in the wet? Just another day at work.
Wow. That s my local airport. That and Exeter airport. The weather here has been consistently bad for the longest period since I moved here. Storms almost every night for the last 3 weeks.
The pilot is really churning that yoke and shows the skill these boys and girls have in spades. I like the way you are combining aviation enthusiasts from all over the world. You are making a community dedicated to Aviation from which all Wingnuts can not just enjoy but learn so much from. I am enjoying it so much and you are informing the world while being entertaining too. This is EXACTLY what I hoped the Internet would provide instead of the crass and/or deviant content that is smothering it. It's appreciated.
Yes sir, those pilots surely earned their pay on that landing. Masterfully done.
We had flown out to Southern California in our C210 to see our son and I had him in the left seat for some complex aircraft time. He had a private ticket in both SEL and Gliders but had flown very little in the past several years, first college and then as a busy doctor. We had flown out to Catalina Island for lunch and found a direct cross wind of about 20 kts. If you've ever landed there you know the strange runway sight picture on final. He was fighting his way down and about a quarter mile out he said, "OK Dad, it's your airplane!" I really appreciated the high wings and wide stance on that landing. A guy in a Bonanza behind us gave up after three tries and went back to the mainland.
This was great! I'm really enjoying your new partnerships with other channels, your content has become very diverse. I'm going to miss it when you return to the cockpit and have less time
Juan, I can listen to you giving the play by play of aircraft systems all day. Love it. Thank you, sir!
Left of centerline is akin, but opposite to runway behind you and altitude and airspeed you don’t have. Putting yourself in the best place you can at touchdown is a little added insurance. If he get a huge gust at touchdown he has time to get the nose down and get it back in control before the grass gets too close on the right side. Also, while brick one landings are a bad idea in gusty winds I bet a short wet runway looks a lot better from the approach end versus 1500 to 2000 down from it. I noticed that he held the left wing down all the way to the end. Good job!
I would be proud to have that one shown too.
With about 2,000 hours equally now in the 737-2/3/4 (freighter-converted) and my own Luscombe 8E, I've found the 737 to handle maximal crosswind takeoffs and landings excellently into and out of the various 5,900-6,500 feet-long out-station runways within Alaska. And the "Classic"-series (pre-NG) wipers are louder and less operationally refined than seen here in the NG; why it has taken four decades for the windshield wiper system to approach 1980s-automotive-level refinement remains somewhat elusive.
Kudos to the crew for a nice landing in bad weather and short runway. Thanks for the demo! Love your music!
Interesting to hear that different systems have different voices so that you can tell which system is talking.
motofan16 • I was wondering, does the computer voice change with a touch of a button, per pilot preference? My iPhone ( I’m not comparing technology in a modern cockpit to the technology in my personal phone by any means) allows me several choices with Siri. I have it set on a male voice with UK accent. Just curious if pilots can punch in their preferences as well.
This video is EXCELLENT! Thanks for stepping us through that landing from the viewpoint of a professional “big jet” pilot!
GrifFungin I agree! More of this, please, @blancolirio
The Doors! Haven't heard that since like, forever.
Made me pause and find the video of the song :)
Valerie Pippi Here’s Ray Manzarek telling the story about
how that song was created. ua-cam.com/video/3deQXzV-qTk/v-deo.html
Doors have CD’s in my ride,and don’t forget Magic Bus! Love to watch X wind videos. Thanks Browney.
That is because The Doors will instantly seize all your video revenue. Ironically, it means that people actively avoid playing their music in any context, usually denying them any playback revenue.
Yes, nothing but respect for everyone in the airline industry, from the flight, cabin and ground crews to ATC to the trainers, designers and engineers, who make sure these incredibly complex systems work safely to bring the world together for millions and millions of people every year.
True story. I had another window open in UA-cam and it was about Ray Manzarek. I paused it to watch this video and this one starts with " Rider's On The Storm ". I went back to the Manzarek video thinking I forgot to pause it and then decided to close that window because I couldn't get it to stop playing. Whoops, it was blancoliro playing The Door's :) I got a chuckle out of it.
Thank you for the detailed explanation of the final approach on this crosswind landing.
“Captain Morrison, there’s a big cloud! What do I do??”
“BREAK ON THRU TO THE OTHA SIDE!!”
No , that was the Russian plane that escaped the end of runway.
Good work that man!!
My mom died this date in 2007, so she is keeping an eye on all our pilots, she was 82. Miss you mom.
Thanks Juan.
Foxie Dog • Aww, so sweet. Condolences to you. I lost mine February 27, 2002. Lost both parents in 2002. Take care and God bless..
Being a bit off centerline on the windward side can be a blessing if a gust comes as power comes off, and to have that drift buffer room. I miss those trim wheels from the 727 as well, and its knee buster handle. Great video!
When I was talking my flying lessons my instructor, Kevin, had me doing this in a Cessna 152, man what a workout and I enjoyed every minute of it.
I could not believe how much action they were having to put on the yoke during final. Great landing for the conditions. Thanks for sharing.
I'd fly with this pilot without hesitation-- well done!
Perfect music choice for the video replay at the end.
Awesome as ever JB. The frustrated pilot in me really enjoyed that. Awesome music too.
Boy for a crosswind landing. I call that one greased!! Those guys across the pond get to have all the fun.
Nicely done! Reminds me of what a friend who was non-pilot and senior Bean-Counter for a Major American Air Carrier who was tasked with coming up with some assessment of the risk of replacing high time Pilots on short-haul flights with low-time green pilots and how the attitude at the company was one of "If they have the ratings that should be enough right?" My response was "The question is wrong, it should be, 'How many major disasters can the company and stock holders afford or survive?'" and this is just the example of when margins of risk come up against the real world and real-world piloting skills.
Looks like a typical European day. Done a few hundred of those over there. The NG's I flew had HUD's. That was good for these kind of days. Auto brakes max is an attention get'r. Only flew the NG about 1200 hours. Good landing. Thanks for the presentation Juan.
Actually, that was a GREAT landing!
(The aircraft is reusable)
When I was flying as a passenger a lot in NZ due to work I loved the small planes due to being able from the seat closest to the cock-pit to see what the co-pilot and the pilot doing while landing or on take-off, they had a curtain to separate them from view but most of the time didn't which was great these were only 17seats max. Thank for all the videos bring back memories.
Riding in Metroliners. eh? Flying culverts. I've taken more than one wild ride on Metroliners on stormy nights in the central US. Pretty high pucker factor.
What an interesting "peek behind the curtain" at what goes on up front while we munch on the peanuts! What a delicate balance of juggling the controls, monitoring the readouts and alarms and troubleshooting the external environment while keeping a cool head! Thanks for this and much respect to all pilots!
Great video.
Thanks for the explanations “from your office”.
Take care.
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Thanks Juan and 1000 Landings. I really liked seeing what it was like at the other end of the plane.
Brownie, I have been flying sim aircraft on my computer (XPlane) for about 3.5 years, much of it in the B737-800. I have done many crab landings such as the one depicted here. All of them were terrifying. What this video does is clears up many issues of confusion and mis-information about this procedure. I greatly appreciate your publishing this and explaining it so skillfully. When you decide to do a "Master's Course" in big jet piloting please let me know. I will sign up immediately. Thanks!
You may be able to explain. Way before we hear the autopilot disengage warning the 1st officer is working the yoke. I would never have thought the autopilot was operative at that point. What is happening were autopilot is still engaged but the yoke is being worked?
@@COIcultist I believe the correct answer (Brownie, help me here) is that on a Boeing 737, and probably others, the yokes are connected to the autopilot servos. What you are seeing is the autopilot steering the aircraft. After the AP is disengaged the F.O.s yoke continues to move in sync with the yoke of the pilot who is now controlling the aircraft. I am not certain about this but I believe the "joysticks" found on Airbusses are not linked in this manner which was a contributing factor in at least one major air crash (Air France). If I am wrong about any of that someone please correct me.
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@@deskboundaviator7377 You are correct. This highlights a major design difference between Boeing / Airbus. In all Boeings, cockpit controls all move in sync with what they're tied to: flight controls, spoilers and throttles. In a Boeing fly by wire jet, this is done using what we call "backdrives" that are servo-feel systems that move the yoke, rudders, throttles, etc so the pilot gets the feel and displacement feedback that Boeing requires in all its designs. Airbus doesn't design that way. In the A320, NONE of that happens. The sticks aren't really connected to anything at all. Captain and FO sticks are completely independent of their flight controls, and of each other. Throttles also do not move in sync with engine thrust changes. Spoiler control is the same - its just a dumb lever in the cockpit that only sends a command to operate the spoilers. I carry type ratings in many Boeings, and the A320 so I have thousands of hours first hand with both. Personally I much MUCH prefer the Boeing design philosophy.
@@okflyer777 Thank you for that reply, Bill. There has been a lot of talk lately about the differences between these two systems, much of it ill-informed. Your note confirms what I have learned and experienced in my limited arena... home computer sim flying, lots of online reading and listening to folks like you and Juan Brown.
I've driven along that road just before the threshold many a time. I had a friend who lived in Blagdon (out to the left of the video). There is an amazing little brewery in Butcombe.
Loved the "office" section of the video thanks very interesting.
Great video very informative! So much going on up front for the pilots, while we in the back relax and put our trust and lives in the hands of pilots that get it right every single time! We hope!
🎼 'Riders on the Storm'! 🎶👍
Picked up on that the first chord.😉
Excellent!!!!! 😃😎
wow, the movement on the control column ! left, right, forward, back. Working hard on that landing.
He's trying to nail the flight directors, they give you guidance for the path both vertical and lateral so if they move just a bit he's going to try keep them centred
Excellent talk through, please do more!
I remember well when this song, Riders on the Storm, was released. I had the album in my hands 2 days later. Very appropriate for this video! Thank again Juan.
Crosswind or no crosswind, the detailed description of the flight instruments and what's going on in the cockpit was amazing!!!!
This has quickly become my favorite UA-cam channel. Well done.
UA-cam qualified? Jeez Juan, you guys gotta be SO sharp and SO much to figure out and remember...there's no way in heck I could ever do all this stuff!!! I'm flying out tomorrow and I'll have a brand new fresh appreciation for my pilots!
You nailed it so hard on the music, sir.
Thanks, Juan. What we can do by observing is to be reminded of just how skilled you and your colleagues are in dealing with a number of elements that would have the rest of us crapping our pants. And to remind us that pilots who have lost their lives in the service of passenger or cargo transit are truly a loss to all of us, not just their loved ones or their companies.
This video gives a good impression of typical UK weather conditions :-)
One of your best posts ever Juan. I hope your future dpe's recognize your contribution to the world.
Thanks Captain Juan for this great video. I could images shooting this approach and landing with the same weather conditions at night. With all the perspectives being limited or even lost while flying in marginal weather just popping out of the clouds and looking for your runway marker lights. Yes this flight crew earned their pay today with all those flight control inputs just to maintain the aircraft on course and glide-slope without overshooting or coming in low unintentionally. Wow I was really impressed with their performance! I think you mentioned that we couldn’t hear their internal communications because I can’t imagine the crew being quite during these conditions. I know I would want verbal backups from who ever wasn’t flying this approach calling out minimums or what ever information we discussed in our brief prior to this landing especially during these weather conditions and 6,500 feet of runway. It sure didn’t take them long to get to the end of their runway after landing. Damm! Great job. We need videos from our aircraft for training too. Always about the lawsuits!
Phew definite pucker factor at a day at the office. Great post again Juan
Did a great job Short runway and excellent touchdown .
Excellent video Juan, Thanks!!
Flew in and out of Bristol a few times and if memory serves me correctly the wind normally would come from the south west and depending on approach you might come in over the Bristol Channel and the wind over the estuary is blustery on a good day,I loved the pilots chuckling about the landing good job
Juan,
Thank you so much for this video! Your explanations and analysis is excellent for a non-pilot like me.
God bless
Paul (in MA)
Top shelf analyses Juan. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Cheers!
Spent many a long hour in the tower at Bristol airport training up the ATC guys on a data management system my company used to sell to airports so I remember the runway and apron layout well. There was a NATS (National Air Traffic Control System) school based there so it was a great place to get to know air traffic controllers from student to instructor level. The infrastructure and people it takes to make global commercial aviation mundane is mind-blowing.
That is one cool landing.
Great landing! Loved the "Riders On The Storm" intro. Really enjoy these videos for us non-pilot types as it helps give a much better perspective of the "flying office" and all that's involved. Cheers, Juan!
it always amazes me w every video you post how exciting and interesting flight details are. you are the most ! thanks so much for the ongoing education , Juan. kerp up the most e cellent work! hope you get your wings back asap. 🦏🦏🦏🌀🌀💙💚
"UA-cam qualified.." lol. Perfect.
It is amazing the amount of information these high tech aircraft give you pilots as you land. It gives me more confidence to fly knowing what is in place to assist pilots. Great video, Juan.
Bristol Airport, previously known as RAF Lulsgate Bottom.
10 mins from my house! BRS is on top of a hill and there's no hiding from that wind. Amazing to see that all unfold so smooth.
Thank you for the explanations on your presentations. I am not a pilot,however have attended seminars every year at EAA Oshkosh since 1987. Your presentations are a Great supplement to what I have learned and observed at Oshkosh. I am an EAA member and Love aviation. If you have not been to Oshkosh I recommend it. Everything from Jenny’s to Jets. Check out the EAA Museum at another time before you go.
Juan, Thank you for your work on the channel. It is most interesting to an old pilot. It helped me through the recoveries from a couple of surgeries (more sitting than anything else) and not a day goes by where I'm not outside looking up. I like your explanations, they'er good for everyone, pilot or not. I like the music in this one. I was at the concert when Morrison got busted in New Haven, my cousin's husband was the arresting officer, and I've had a drink or two with the judge that threw it out of court.
Something to ponder: "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." Leonardo da Vinci. Who knew he was a pilot.
During cross wind landings and auto land selected. The L1011 had the loc antenna in the vertical stabilizer, so when the auto land was active, it aligned the tail with the centerline and the cockpit hanging way off to the side. The flight crew did not like that at all. The loc antenna was move to the nose after gear down.
Thanks for a very insightful video. The touchdown was very smooth considering the weather.
Juan, after driving race cars on asphalt and dirt, this process is like dirt racing. At 100mph, you pitch the cars rear end out to the right, snap your steering left, then back to steer right, feathering the gas up again to turn left. LOLLLL WHO KNEW I COME FLY A 737 too. 😎
Pucker factor light on! Love the music!!
Excellent informative video as always and a bonus with the Doors music.
Good music. Good stuff. That was fantastic and fun Juan. I do not know much about airplanes and stuff. Thank you!!!! Over the years and all the really good things your bring to the channel..
He really greased that under less than ideal conditions
Riders on the Storm, "The Doors of perception:. Clever......I thought that felt like a routine landing. Thanks, Juan!
Thanks Juan. What an excellent video on a technique that few passengers realize is taking place in crosswind conditions.
The windshield wipers may be noisy, but I am sure that they distract you from your elevated heart rate
This was one cool video. I never piloted jets but small prop rigs with no spoilers and lots of helicopters
Thanks Juan. That was an awesome experience. Great details on a subject matter that is pure interest to me. I sure do enjoy your channel.
Since UA-cam came about I realized just how much I enjoyed flying - especially this kind of landings.
That was great Juan. What a neat perspective I never get riding in coach....
bob whalen
Coach passenger checking in 🙋🏼♂️
I was seated right down the back of a B777-300 ER & landed in a fair bit of crosswind, & really felt the movement as it straightened up on landing. Passenger next to me was slightly alarmed so I was able to explain what was going on.
Thanks for the explanation. The captain earned his pay that day.
“ Open the doors of your perception”. Very nice.
Thank you Juan
Great video. Your comments are great. Kudos. Best regards.
Absolutely gripping Juan. I'm all of a lather now. Great stuff.
I didn't think I was going to like this video but I stayed with it until the end and loved it. I haven't flown in 50 years but with this information I think I might be able to do it. Maybe I'll go down to the airport and see if I can checkout a 737 for the day.
That was excellent Browny. As always.
thanks for the cockpit walk through
Juan - What an excellent video! And thanks to 1000 Landings.... and what you did with it. Loved it - do more of these :)... from an ex Lear FO
Juan, I so enjoyed your detailed information, as always, clearly articulated. With the recent storms, Ciara & Dennis here in the UK, lots of YT videos from the ground, few from the cockpit. I will throw a few pounds/dollars at you. Many thanks.