Why Formula 1 Can't Race Here (Mount Panorama, Bathurst)
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- It's the mountain. Australia's famous circuit which is home to races such as the Bathurst 1000 and Bathurst 12 hour. This circuit has been made famous thanks to the incredible layout, scary sections, bumps, walls, Kangaroos and the high speeds cars reach on the long straights. Formula 1 at Bathurst has always been a fun thing to imagine but just because we haven't raced there, it doesn't mean a Formula 1 car hasn't been there..
In 2011, one week before the 2011 Australian Grand Prix, Jenson Button and Supercars god Craig Lowndes would lap the mountain in what was an incredible sight and one we will always remember. Jenson managed a 1:48.8 which is an unofficial lap record and one that won't be beaten anytime soon..
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It would be exciting, they would need to change front wings every lap
Rip haas lol
The best way to turn Mazepin Sr. from a billionaire to a millionaire
@@v1nny12 🤣🤣🤣
Why would you want it in the first place? F1 just isn't exciting to watch.
@@unbiasedcobra6672 are you even watching 2021 season or are you stuck in 2020?
As someone who lives in Bathurst i can say it’s sketchy going around the top of the mount in a normal road car at 60kph, so in an f1 parking it would be fucken terrifying, but i watched jenson button do it💁♂️
Flying not parking 🤦♂️I cant type for shit
You should've seen jimmy broadent breaking button's record
@@maxwellpeter5955 Ah yes,the mad lad himself
At the Bathurst 6h there was a s2000 and it was flying down Conrad it looked sketchy
@@maxwellpeter5955 just about to watch it.
I would love to see all the F1 cars going flat out but if it meant changing any part of the track then forgot about it leave it the way it is it's a savage track and it needs to stay that way.
Something I have in common with Australians - I don't drink Foster's either.
I don't usually, but I drank four cans of it yesterday, which I found abandoned in a festival campsite on the final morning.
Wasn't as bad as I remembered.
@@PiousMoltar I don’t even think you can buy Fosters here (Australia) I haven’t seen it being sold for over 20 years
@@NebraskaGonvilleJones You can, it's called Crown Lager
@@pommunist Haha, yeah have heard that myth. I know they are both cub products but according to the company it’s a vastly different recipe. Both are crap anyway
I am a Brit and I don't,t drink fosters?
True fact: I bought my wife a new coffee machine whilst we were staying in the nearby town of Orange. On the way back to Sydney we did a couple of laps at Bathurst. So every time I make a coffee I can say that this is one of the few coffee machines in the world that has done some hot laps around the mountain 😂
😂
I really love if danny ric would do a promotional there
That would be awesome however, I'd like to see him take the McLaren to the Bend as that track could replace Albert Park if Aus Gov and FIA wanted to do so.
@@arkangelgaming35 Taillem Bend is FIA approved circuit, so technically F! can run there.
However SA govt. wont subsidise event as much as Victoria so thats the issue. Nothing to do with Federal Govt.
The bend is a privately owned circuit with some pretty bland scenery, Albert Park is owned by Vic govt. and looks hella tasty on screen for OS viewers. More views more $$$, oh fuck F! sounds like UA-cam ...lol.
Happening in Feb 2023!
No other circuit would have kamikaze kangaroos.
Also I would love to see a video where you go around Bathurst in a car and do a track review or something
Cool username
Imagine the Max v Lewis Championship being decided by a Kangaroo
there used to be kangaroos at Amaroo and Lakeside
ask Dick Johnson about the kamikaze rocks.
Search " When Bill Brown rolled at McPhillamy"
Cristiano da Matta was nearly killed hitting a deer at Road America while testing an IndyCar. I imagine that the average kangaroo weighs more than the average white tailed deer.
Would definitely love to see some promotional drives on circuits like these with Next gen cars (If they can even manage to survive a lap)
Shane Van with Max for Red Bull, Lewis with Cam Waters for Monster Energy, Leclere with Will Davison for Shell V, Alonso with Randle for Castrol. There's a lot good promo with sponsors. So yeah, i can see something like this in the future
Exactly THIS for the Nordschleife! (I’m telling ya, any of the Mercedes F1 cars with halos will SMOKE the 919 Evo)
"Let's talk about this kangaroo problem, shall we?"
*shows footage of a wallaby instead*
Glad someone else noticed haha
I paused and came straight down to the comments after I saw it to see if anyone else noticed.
used to do night shift security at phillip island for motogp and sbk. there was a couple of different patrol routes that had to be covered, which you had to be careful of for different reasons.
Campground patrols, you had to make sure you had to drive the inside fenceline of trackside campground fairly quickly and quietly or you would disturb the wildlife and they would hurl beer cans and eggs at you. That one you tried to get a patrol car to do.
'Wobbly patrol' was the access track around the circuit. You had to make sure you rode slowly, or you would disturb the local wildlife there, and those fucking wallabys would no shit fly out of the brush and kick the shit *out of the middle* of the scooters throwing the guards off and i remember one year doing about $5000 damage to a fleet of 10 rentals.
“… throws you into the path of other cars”
*cough* Raidillon *cough*
Too steep cough eau rouge cough
Too narrow cough Monaco cough
@@cameronfarrell9076 eau rouge isnt too steep lmao but monaco fair
Spa like Monaco gets to ignore the FIA rules about tracks because of their historic status
Parts of the Mountain narrow to Monaco levels, because of the actual angle of attack, the line is way too narrow, even when it looks fairly wide, because there is say, a wall on entry, and then another exit, but you can only see one then the other because of elevation drop, so it essentially means just one narrow line or bounce off.
Likewise, parts of the circuit drop far more significantly than Spa, more than OLD SPA even back in the glory days of the full Triangle.
The Mountain however, unlike Monaco, is highspeed... even in the aforementioned narrow line sections, and unlike Spa, is not as long in it's elevating sections, on the way up, and down, there's sections which climb steeply, but in very short run. Narrow a run too, actually.
It has the problems of both, but with nothing to mitigate the issues. Monaco is narrow, but slow, always has been. Spa rises and falls, but it does so with relatively long run in and out off. Panorama has neither.
@@cameronfarrell9076 Cough Baku turn 9 cough cough
A race at bahurst wouldn't happen mainly because the circuit is a grade 3 one but if it was a grade 1 circuit then it would be boring because of the cars being very wide like the new regs will still be very wide cars
It'd basically be Monaco but more dangerous since it's way faster.
No it would be great. Qualifying would be as hard as Monaco, but they will be able to overtake, since there are two drs straights
on top of that we have this ... land grab going on where a certain group of people goes around stating thing like one of their ancestors once had a shit here and no you cant develop the la... how much money did you say you were going to give us? ok maybe you can develop the land, but only how we want. and no, that wont be whats there now.
not exaggerating either, a non elected group of people who have nothing to do with any of the land around the race track have decided no one is allowed to do anything there at all, and want the track shut down. because... something about ghosts. or im not sure which excuse theyre using this time. Hey i wonder if Bathursts sign has the completely totally real non made up by white people to imitate something and failling native language 'Wominjeka' welcome sign that is on every sign in victoria where a hundred different languages were spoke but all magically had one word for welcome.
I love the place, I watch the aussie v8’s whenever I can and frequently repeat watch. It just looks immense.
Then I tried it in Gran Turismo, and I’m not a bad sim racer, but oh my, I was so shockingly terrible. It is difficult, incredibly difficult.
It’s a great track once you do about 1000 laps.
We used to sneak in at night to do hot laps. When I tried Gran Turismo, I thought it was terrible till night arrived.
Then it all looked very familiar & got easier.
@@mickcompagnoni1114 call bullshit, its a public road, open to all.
Only closed for events, 4 per year.
So if you snuck in it was when circuit was closed and no way you could do laps in the manner you suggested, so the bullshit call stands.
. Hope to rub wheels with you on GTS sometime,,,hahhaha.
@@hoodzzeee Your bullshit doesn't stand. If you know Bathurst, you know the cops had to come from the north end of town, passed the Uni, & enter via Murray's. They can't do that in 3 minutes.
You do 1 lap, leave via Hell corner & go to the road house for coffee while the cops check the mount.
20 minutes later, you go back & do another lap.
Trust me, going over Skyline in the dark at 150kph in a borrowed 6 cyl commodore gets your attention!
In my opinion it's one of the worst tracks in the Gran Turismo franchise mainly do to the mountain section which has no alternative driving line for overtaking! I think they've designed the downhill section a bit too steep and sharp which means if one car loses control there's a high chance that no one can avoid a crash in this section!
Compared to IRL you at least don't have to worry about wild suicidal animals jumping over the track... although some drivers can imitate them very good!
Ah that's a very nice track. One of my top five tracks of all time. I don't want to destroy that track hey for one race.
As an Englishman, Mount Panorama is up there along with Nordschleife as those almost unreachable, mythical race circuits. Never let it be changed to accommodate a single series and line the pockets of the big wigs. It is too special for that!!
"Gravel trap at the Chase throws you into the path of other cars"
>Raidillon joined the chat
Maggots & Becketts, please stand up.
Bogan Holden fans at Skyline - "Hold my beer"
Boulder appears on track just before Dick Johnson shows up.
top that for stupid.
It would be cool to have an unscaled replica built somewhere closer to an airport and changes so that it meets the regs
I wish they did this with many tracks but I imagine it's more money they won't spend
True... but is natural terrain... Very expensive to replicate 😛
@@anasnasir9424 yeah forgot to mention that the land would have to be similar but not as steep
Do it with the Nordschleife
Saudi Arabia had every chance to do that with their clean-sheet design but instead they produced what they did...
A race there would be 😜
Oran Park was a good circuit, and the old Surfers Paradise circuit, but both were changed for housing, Oran Park no longer exists and Surfers Paradise is shortened.
Great vid mate. Imagine 20 F1 cars going down conrod - oh wow. Would never want to see the track altered to cater to formula 1.
Having got into V8 Supercars over the course of lockdown here in the UK over the last year or so, I gotta say, I love Aussie Touring Car racing. Mt Panorama is an amazing circuit and I can see why the Bathurst 1000 is the biggest race on the Supercars calendar. My favourite piece of footage from it is the opening lap of the 1998 Bathurst 1000, after finding the full race on UA-cam. 45 cars roaring up and down the mountain, awesome stuff (that and I love the sound the Supercars make when revving up for the start of a race; 7,500rpm and bouncing off the limiter). I am curious to see how the Gen 3 rules for Supercars turn out next year.
On the kangaroos, the ones which interrupted the practice session for the Bathurst 12hr GT race last year made for a hilarious piece of footage, thankfully no person or roo were injured.
Would I want to see an F1 race at Bathurst? If it meant that the circuit had to be modified, definitely not. For me, it's a V8 Supercars circuit through and through.
I feel like Sydney Motorsport Park would have more of a chance as it is closer to the airport, has had a F1 car lap it and is Grade 2.
They raced the A1gp there in 07-08.
Weve got Albert Park. Nick off.
Much love from America. F1 cars going up, down & round the mountain sounds fun for sure but waaay too many safety concerns, especially thru the chase like you said.. Australia is on my bucket list because of Mt. Panorama. So much racing history has been created on the mountain. Sacred racing grounds. When I visited the high banks of Daytona I took a few minutes & appreciated the history that had been created. I can’t wait to experience the same sensation when I visit Bathurst. There’s no if, it’s just a matter of when. Sorry for the long winded comment but you wanted to know how I felt about Mt. Panorama 😂😆🏎🏎
i want to do laps of Laguna Seca and Watkins Glen, i absolutely love both of those tracks.
It’s a beautiful track, and if we have to neuter Panorama to get Grade 1 certification….just maybe forget about racing there.
That crazy straight does seem scary as hell for F1 cars. I’m imagining a Le Mans prototype just straight up flying off, ngl.
Tbh, that road does need resurfacing and evening out. The elevation and steep slopes are enough, the bumpy road could be dealt with.
You don’t want f1 near it lol
FIA would ruin it
1:31 sounds like spa without the rain
The Bend is a shit track in the middle of nowhere, with no crowd.
0:18 you also have a prime minister that shit himself at McDonalds, a prime minister that just disappeared in the ocean and kangaroos.
This circuit is always a madouse in gran turismo weekly races, but I love it anyway. The Bathurst 1000 is exciting af. Super dope course, doesn't need F1. But good vid, subbed!
The bend would be an incredible track for f1 in my opinion, having driven there, it is my favourite race track by a long shot. (although i havent driven at Bathurst)
Personally I hate that track I avoided like the plague. But watching it on TV or the internet or whatever it's kind of cool. No only driving cars in a video game I can't avoid it if I want to and I always do. But it's a good race. Also hearing in Australia say his country is the greatest in the world warms my heart everybody from every country in every place in the world should think their country is the greatest even if it's not.
We need a grade 1 race track in NZ, its literally down the road from AUS, I think the FIA and Formula would actually be pretty interested if we had one
We are constantly hearing of the F1 organiation wanting to cut the Australian GP from their listings. That's one of the oldest GP in the world (1928). So can't see NZ getting one. Maybe we should give them the bird and go back to the Tasman Series of the 70's where some great NZ / Aussie drivers started.
just build a big floating track in the Tasman, best of both worlds
Its a shame Highlands wasn't made to be grade 1 watching f1 cars with the backdrop of the Southern Alps would be so cool
I think IndyCar will sniff around eventually especially with Scotty Mac and Scott Dixon...who was literally knighted in New Zealand both in the series.
@@flamingfrancis - Stop being a fucking downer. Shitting on someone else’s hopes.
Your passion for this circuit remaining unchanged swayed my opinion completely
F1 at Bathurst in the rain with a reverse starting grid. K go!
The FIA would completely ruin this great track if F1 were to race there.
Funny thing that the fia has to have a too narrow limit even though Monaco you rarely see an overtake
1:06 “Too narrow” if Monaco gets a pass here, why not this?
Got to be something to do with the pockets of the people in Monaco
@@michaelgriffiths7937 yep, and the history. Same as Monza. They dont pass several regs but are kept for historical/marketing reasons
with the new f1 cars they are going to be small which could probably race there but they would need to put new asphalt, more tire barriers, make it wider but it isn't up to FIA regulation. we can only dream about it
But where are the bats? It’s not called bat castle for nothing, is it?
I grew up in Bathurst....
New Brunswick
There's a simple, practical reason that an F1 race would never be held there, regardless of the track. When the GP was in Adelaide, there wasn't sufficient hotel/motel accommodation in the whole city. The government set up an Airbnb-like system just for the GP. Adelaide was on the verge of being too small ... and it's 30 times the size of Bathurst.
0:31 your face pops up for a split second!😂
Don't forget prime ministers who go swimming one day and never return, and prime ministers who shit themselves in a McDonald's in 1997
Hahahah can’t forget those
Maybe they should have event there like the goodwood festival where cars tackle the circuit one by one for time. Would be something to see all different kinds of cars tackling the track on the same weekend.
A Goodwood type event would be a good idea. I’d be there for sure (covid restrictions permitting).
They do do Hill climbs there
there are multiple hill climb clubs all around the country that do exactly that every weekend. maybe not at panorama but its a thing. its the mother of formula 1 as well!
Why is "Kamikaze Kangaroos" the most Australian thing I've ever heard?
Hahaha 🦘
Just go to Oulton Park... Oh wait
This track is sick. I would never want it changed. Australia is more awesome because of it.
What’s stronger
A big roo or the halo
I miss the old Gold Coast street circuit that the C.A.R.T. series used to race on.
From what I've heard of kangaroos, they're like deer in the Midwest US. They run out in traffic and I can say from personal experience that they can total a car.
Yes, we have big issues with deer also. Several Councils near Parks and bushlands allow culling. Depending on fires and water supplies they have become a real menace.
I imagine it would be similar to the deer. The terror is in the speed. I've had some very close encounters with roos jumping in front of and over my car and it's genuinely pants ruining stuff.
@@kanesanders6669 yeah, our deer don't jump over our cars, but they do come rushing out of the woods with no notice leaving you with less than a second to react. Plus if you're driving at night and they look at your headlights, they tend to freeze in place.
Honestly, with enough funding, almost any track could get approval without changing the track itself. Do some landscaping to increase run off, add fencing to keep out the 'roos, add gravel traps to make driver's think twice about bombing it through certain stretches. We see narrow classic tracks being used at Zandvoort and Monza and I'm sure if an F1 car can get up and down it, however steep the grades are won't matter.
Haha that's a lot of ifs though... But it's fun to go through a track and do your mental best to make it safer.
Truly one of the greatest circuits ever created. First learnt the track while playing TOCA RACE DRIVER on the PS2. Then started watching V8 SUPERCARS in the era of Marcos Ambrose, Mark Skaife etc. Mercedes, Nissan and Volvo were all part of the party. Wish they would all come back along with others. Never forgotten it, a truly wonderful circuit.
I’m more of a toca touring car championchip for ps1 kinda guy
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh man Toca.... ive had acid ONCE in my life. Toca 2, PS2, steering wheel setup, and Acid...
I was at Bathurst.
No really. I was there. I was at Bathurst, in my best mates living room.
When you listed aussie circuits you forgot about sydney motorsport park (eastern creek), i feel like alot of people overlook that circuit, and if it is anything like it is in the sim it is a truely underrated circuit
Eastern Creek as an F1 circuit would be like Hungaroring I think, it’s only 3.9km and there’s only one good straight for passing. With the 2022 regs they might even be able to follow through T1 and pass at the hairpin.
@@davidfabish-wood5278 yeah, turn 2 is a really unique corner and i cant really think of another corner like it, obviously it wouldnt top the list of best track corners but the first time i drove it (in a sim) i was pleasntly supprised by it
I hate the FIA so much
If it ain't broke... don't try and 'fix it'... keep Bathhurst just the way it already is...
I believe trying to host an F1 race at Bathurst would be like making a race around the Green Hell. While it would be iconic it would change the track a lot.
But you CAN race F1 at the Hell. They used to actually race F1 at the Nurbergring. Not the F1 circuit of today, but the full 14+km track. They would have no excuse to change it, because they've done it before. So theoretically, at least, it can be done.
They've never tried at the Mountain, so it would be much harder to say if it COULD be done.
@@Apis4 I meant in modern day F1 not when a crash like Romain's meant you would be killed.
I tried Foster's a while ago, I gotta admit I'm surprised it's not more popular here. I can only describe the taste as smack bang between VB and Tooheys New. I thought it'd be rubbish but it's a decent drink
I might have to give it a go
Imo its cat piss that's been carbonated. But I'm more of a brown beer drinker not lager. But, it is cheap here in the UK. So if you're tight for cash... It can save your night out by giving you something to knock back.
The people that say they would never drink Fosters are the same people that happily drink Crown Lager not realising they are one and the same.
They 'race' at shitty Monaco, why not Bathurst?
Because Monaco is "Historic" they say.....
If Monaco was new and put forward as an F1 venue today, it would be laughed out of the Boardroom.
Bathurst is 10x better but alas, we'll likely never see it.
If only, although the new s5000 class
(V8 open wheelers) are racing there at the Bathurst 1000 event later this year, which I am super hyped about. Could be the closest we will get to an f1 grid at Mt Panorama
Edit: ‘The Bend’ would be a superb track for formula 1 to race at, s5000 have been there already
best circuit of the calendar for the v8 supercars bar Pukekohe/NZ circuits of course. JK Bathurst #1 NZ #2
I raced the mount on my street luge. I'm used to hills as you could imagine and the dipper corner was another level of drop!
I used to have the mail run for 7 years, the number of idiots I've seen , and nearly been killed by would amaze you! One child on a skate board damn near went under my ute as I backed out of a drive! You cannot see a kid crouched on a board!
That is the equivalent of a Deer crossing a race track in America, which doesn't happen as far as I know, especially since Indycars share some tracks with IMSA...don't want an Indycar hitting a Deer
Mazespin goes out on his firstr round. A few minutes later the commentator: "TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN!"
So no FIA reg that covers kamikaze kangaroos? We are good to go then.
Im doing a league race on ac in bathurst with f1 cars
Im prepared for everything :)
Love the vid but I think you should have talked more about what makes Bathurst great without F1. Seems a few people don’t even know about the track
I definitely want to go there one day and do it in person
The powers that be " CANNOT " change the Bathurst Circuit, it would destroy it .F1 can F,;/"k Off .
With V8 supercars having changed so drastically, honestly they could revitalise the track and the region with formula one. It would become quite the iconic track and event for people all over the world. I personally don't envision Australian motorsport being at the same level it once was in terms of ford vs Holden for obvious reasons.
good video about f1 bro greetings from Indonesia 🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩
OI C#&T, it's the world's greatest track!!!
I nearly spat out my vegemite sanga in the first 45 seconds of your video, strewth! And I've been to Bathurst and Spa which IMO is the second-best track on the planet, lets not get bogged down in a debate about the Nordschleife which is awesome, but not really a viable track for F1 for even more reasons than Bathurst.
The last time I was at Spa I was camping with some Dutch people and they had been to the mountain for the 1000 and waxed lyrical about how good the track and the event was!
This track is probably the most Pic and adrenaline race track on planet.
I moved to Bathurst two month ago and love it (so far). I've visited before and ride the track which I did again recently as the Covid test are done there. Love to see some F1 doing the ride too :-)
did someone say... KANGAROO RACING AT BATHURST?
nothing more aussie than that
Even assuming that all of the non track surface related issues were voided, the idea of changing the track layout to suit F1 would completely ruin the track and the whole reason its so good. Theres no point, even if it was possible.
Im sorry but many F1 tracks utterly SUCK for any form of racing other than F1. If they were to F1-ify bathurst, then it would become just as crap
What about formula 5000? Looks much more interesting and more motorsportish than f1 nowadays... Saying this from Europe
Indy Car: here, hold my beer.
lol they would totally do it of the money was there
Track is to narrow..... monaco starts nervously sweating
Would be crazy to see them race there !! But of course won't happen ☹️ . Had a chat about bringing back a former track . The cost to upgrade the track would be insane . Mosport is wee bit smaller than Bathurst ! Asked Ron Fellows if he would do it and the look he gave me said it all ! Since 08 I watch the 07 race intro before a day of karting ! Up to at least 200 views of it !! My first kart number for club racing was 888 ! Only learned a few years ago the greatness of some guy named Alan Moffat ! Despite our small populations we have made our impact on the racing world !!
I have no doubt that the words "FUCKEN UNBELIEVABLE" are said more often at Mt Panorama than "I'll have a beer".
Okay, Bathurst is crazy and wouldn't be possible. But I have an even crazier suggestion from MY homecountry this time around. Just IMAGINE, F1 at the Nürburgring 😳😳😳
Basically everything that makes Bathurst exciting is what makes it inappropriate for F1 cars
The Bend needs more exposure. It's supposed to be the new, shiny facility with multiple layouts that should be able to accommodate many racing categories.
Let's not forget. The Bathurst 1000 stopped once for a little Echidna to pass safely...
While driving to Kangaroo Flats (yes, it's a real town); often see a Roo bounce over the barbwire fence, bounce once on the road, and clear the barbwire fence on the opposite side in a flash.
IT both, 😲Scared & Amazed the Bejesus outta me every damn time they pulled it off !!!
I have watched Virgin Supercars race there...And it's fantastic but won't say much about F1
Symmons Plains or Baskerville Raceway both in Tasmania could be interesting for F1
Sketchy, bumpy track....its only a matter of time before IndyCar shows up there. lol
I'm from Rio and for me the best circuits of all time are below in ascending order:
5th - Interlagos, Brazil, not the current route, but the old one with 8 km long
4th - Nurburgring Nordschleife
3rd - Spa
2nd - Le Mans
1st - Mount Panorama
P.S. I love seeing the kangaroos strolling imperturbably on the track.
Skippys a safety issue????
In the 80s, Stefan Johanson struck a deer during practice at the Austrian GP........
It made a mess of his McLaren... a whole new shade of red in the livery... not to mention the deer!!
He hit it at one of the fastest sections of the track at the time and absolutely destroyed the deer.....
Stefan had to use his head, MONSTER headache!!!! No HALOs in the 'stone-age' times.
Formula One has never raced at Bathurst but there have been 4 (pre F1) Australian Grand Prix held there. 1938, 1947, 1952 and 1958 (not be confused with the "Melbourne" Grand Prix held at Albert Park the same year). The last one in 1958 which was held on a sealed track we would recognise, was won by Lex Davison in a Ferrari
You're right: F1 can NEVER go to Mount Panorama. Also, Button wasn't pushing at all. Jimmy Broadbent proved it with beating Button's time on his first lap by FIVE SECONDS!
too narrow - F1 races at Zandvoort and Mugello
too steep - F1 races at Spa (Radillion)
limited pit area - F1 races at Zandvoort
far from airport - Suzuka maybe?
no run off after straight - cancelled Vietnamese track from F1 2020 track
kamikaze animals - groundhogs in Montreal
dangerous run off - F1 races at Soa (Radillion again)
your welcome
I drive this on the Xbox Forza game in an F1 RS17 X Class.. It's absolutely nuts and definitely is not suited.. Saying that.. I'm. Doing 1m27s laps if I don't crash off the top of the mountain.
Too Narrow
Monaco says Hello, Baku chicane says Hi
Gravel Trap that throws you into the path of other cars.
Raidillion says HELLO with a barrier that sends you into the path of other cars
Bring back Adelaide
Never say never, Monaco probably fails most FIA regs, along with half the street circuits. Would be awesome.
Mount Panorama is basically Spa and Monaco having a kid and inheriting their bad sides (from F1 perspective, probably still good for GT though) 🤔🤔🤔
And even if it was possible. Is it worth it?
Just like Le Mans, the Nordschleife and other iconic places, these tracks are famous on their own without F1. And their crown jewel event wouldn't be F1.
Put it simply, Bathurst doesn't need F1, and F1 doesn't need Bathurst
I'm a pom who lived in Sydney in the 90s. On a 2011 visit I went for a ride in country NSW on a borrowed Fireblade with some Sydney biker mates, including a lap of the mountain. Memorable.
Yeah, nah. Make F1 come to Mountain, don't make the Mountain come to them. (Wanted to make the obvious religious reference, but didn't want to offend)
How to tell if the track is Australian, KAMIKAZE KANGAROOS
A bit of trivia for F1 fans who have not been around all that long. You will find vision of these on YT.
The Sydney Harbour Bridge was closed for a AGP promotion in 2010 and Mark Webber got to drive his Williams over and back.I think over 300 million viewed the feat.
The beautiful Sea Cliff Bridge in the northern Wollongong suburbs was used for a global advertisment by Shell / Ferrari in 2007. Well worth a look at the documenting of the history of Ferrari.
So you reckon you would not like to see the track changed.... it was changed markedly in 1987 to make it comply with requirements for the World Touring Car Championship. Bathurst held the 8th. race of the global title that year. It was then that the major change of restricting length of Conrod Straight was done, complying with Euro requirements.
The Australian Formula One GP (well before the entrepreneurs decided to make a motza out of F1) I believe was held here four times as early as 1937.