Some facts: 1. I stink at Yugioh. I will always make the misplay because I'm a simpleton 2. I freaking love this game. I'll keep playing. 3. It can be very expensive. I stopped META chasing and learned to relax. 4. Pass turn
Similarly for me. I guess, most of the problems of current Yu-Gi-Oh don't apply to me, when I only play rogue/casual decks (or budget versions of meta decks) at locals. I think I kind of have to play this way, because I don't find too much time learning the currently best decks and come up with the best side decking pattern. Because of this (1) I don't really care too much about the card prices. (I play the meta decks from 1 or 2 years ago, which are now balanced and dirt cheap. Same goes with everything else in life btw. movies, video games, etc. Everything fom 2 years ago is cheap because the hipe is over.) Also I find it very interesting to find budget alternatives of cards and decks. (2) I don't care about prizing at events, because I know I will never get near a top at big event anyway. (3) I don't care about a non-diverse meta, that might be unfun, because everyone only plays one of 3 decks at big events, because I only play at locals, where there is waaay more deck diversity. (4) I don't care about a too diverse meta game, where you don't know what to put into your side deck to counter each deck, because I generally suck too much at the game, especially the side deck building and the side decking pattern anyway. I guess I could complain about how broken cards are always expensive and how one year later they might get banned right after they are being reprinted (and thus cheap again). But then again, since I play only cheap budget decks, I can never really lose much money.
I was looking at my screenshots on Steam a couple days ago and saw one of the first turn where my opponent ends on a full board, full backrow, and 22 cards left in their deck. This reminded me why I stopped playing.
The timer for each turn is 300 seconds, which is usually cut down to 270 by the time the lag is over, which is five minutes, and you only gain 30s per turn.
@@NotControlledByMillipedes yeah there’s lag, me clicking if I want to respond, animation time, pitching/milling, etc. The 300s can get dragged out to feel like 10 minutes for me to end up surrendering because of 3+ negates
My reason for not quitting is because even since childhood, ive made many friends and memories through the game. Itd feel like losing a big part of myself if i quit.
I only play duel links now so not quit the game completely but the tcg is definitely bad now. Im even enjoying rush duels more than the normal duels surprisingly
It's only fun if you're actually allowed to play but the current game design is made to prevent people from playing which means you're not going to be having fun unless both you and your opponent are playing older decks without tons of negates, floodgates, and hand traps which is unlikely or very rare. Yugioh used to be fun. It's not in the current state of the game. Thems the brakes.
I heavily disagree. I think modern yugioh, aside from a few decks in particular, is very fun and FAR more interactive than literally any other card game, and even those few decks that aren't terribly FUN are at least mechanically interesting and encourage constant interaction. People saying that Yugioh lacks interaction is a common talking point that really irks me. If you've played a modern game of yugioh, you KNOW that interaction is a constant consideration, to the point where in a tourney we don't DECLARE an effect we ATTEMPT an effect. There simply isn't another major card game that does this. The CLOSEST you get is Modern in Magic the Gathering with Instants/counterspells, but even those are so fundamentally different in how they function that it's not REALLY a comparison beyond a teaching example. And beyond that, saying that the goal of MODERN yugioh is prevent your opponent from playing is ignoring how the game has ALWAYS worked. The ENTIRE purpose of a deck in yugioh has ALWAYS been to, in one way or another, completely incapacitate your opponent. The ONLY significant difference in a current Advanced tournament match, and Edison, is the time scale that happens on. Modern yugioh REQUIRES you to seriously consider EVERY card in your deck, older formats are much more forgiving in what cards you choose to play. the game isn't truly different, or even just WORSE, it's just FASTER. Those are not the same thing.
I really dont get the people that like stopping the opponent from playing, thats sooooooooo boring. Thats not interaction, thats the same as watching paint dry.
@@neonoah3353while I think we can all agree a deck filled with negates feels degenerate, it’s important to note that the ultimate goal of EVERY card game is to prevent your opponent from playing. Even in something as fundamental as poker, the intended outcome is to get your opponents to fold (aka not play their hand). I think the key is in HOW the deck interrupts. Popping and returning to the hand, for example, feel the most fine due to the fact the effect still resolves, so they can be played around.
The way Konami treated Hideo Kojima, yes, I would consider them one of the worst companies. As for Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's literally the relationship of an ex-girlfriend. There will be fun times where everything is okay and seems to be going well and then you're reminded on why you got angry or frustrated and want to stop/leave again. Until either of you move on/change, it's going to repeat over and over until something finally breaks.
The lack of a resource system in Yu-Gi-Oh really entices players to think outside the box and come up with these really cool/janky card combos you won’t find anywhere else, and *I’m all for it.*
Yes but the lack of restrictions is also the very reason why everyone is always complaining and waiting for the next ban list to come and save the day (which it never does).
@@Ninjagospinjitzu22 yes and no. The lack of resources and ability to have generic extra deck monsters let's rouge decks pop off a bit. But in games like magic, since resources are a thing, I find that deck diversity can be even greater. In commander especially. People can fill their decks with lands and ways to get lands, and then they're able to play fun jank as well. I think in Mtg it's more fun too since I find every YGO jank deck usually falls through the same end board. Most if not all "unique" jank decks play Saryudra and one point, end on SP and/or Appolo, and so on. In magic, jank piles don't end on the same thing every time. The lack of resource kind of leads to every deck being "sammey"
@@NaNa_W4NT5_F3MNM5 It's not that. It's that you can't unload a third to a half of your deck on turn 1 cuz there's no mana system. There's no cost to activating cards in Yugioh.
Fun is its greatest strength. It’s key asset. The only cure to all the issues at play within the vocal internet community currently. It’s what’ll keep the game alive beyond this time period where video after video is either titled “I quit” or “Yugioh is dying”. But the game won’t fade so long as the game accomplishes one simple thing… Being fun! And I’ll speak for myself and say I’m still havin it! Play casual, have fun duelists!
But how can you play casual when only the supported formats are for "competitive only" while Konami does not recognize the others out there? At this rate, you will only play with your circle of associates and that's it.
@@edpaolosalting9116 nothing wrong with playing with friends! Case & point! It’s for fun, so who better to play with than “associates” aka friends! The anime itself made it a point time & time again. Case closed!
That’s technically false. What sets Yugioh apart from other TCG’s is its micro interactions and nuances that takes quite a lot of skill to pull off; miss timings is an example of a mechanic that is easy to learn on paper, but during a duel, it can be easily missed and hard to master. You really can’t afford to sit there twiddling your thumbs going second like I do with other games like Lorcana. The lack of any sort of interaction with the other games does become extremely stale.
I play Yu-Gi-Oh because: 1. No rotation, the whole 25 years are deckable (Except forbidden). 2. Deckbuilding heaven. 3. Support can drop at any time and revive a beloved pet-deck while getting cool new stuff. 4. Highest creativity in a card game. 5. Least restrictions on a card game ever. (40-60 deck, 15 ex, have fun) The biggest problem is just run away mechanics: Oppressive lockouts (limits creativity), oppressive recursion (You sent my card to GY which gets me two new monsters!), too much interaction (OUR TURN) and too much power on individual card (We are getting to the point of 3 mechanics on ONE card is the norm). As long as you don't play professionally it's super fun.
I stopped playing last year. I picked up Magic The Gathering. I actually got a good amount of commander decks together after selling my collection. All I have now for Yu-Gi-Oh is my childhood deck from like 15 years ago. I probably will never play Yu-Gi-Oh ever again unless there's a major shake-up and I mean MAJOR. Heck this probably only showed up in my feed because I was watching a bunch of the professor's videos on MTG.
I don't even play Magic and I love watching Prof talk about Magic and the product reviews. Even listening to random episodes of Dies to Removal is entertaining to me.
I don’t get frustrated on the strength of particular cards, it’s more so the accessibility. Apollousa just takes 4 random cards to make? I wouldn’t mind cards like that if they actually take effort to make and are a little more high risk/high reward
Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess, and I say this genuinely, is one of the most well designed yugioh cards ever printed. BUT. Will be unfair until we are no longer able to play decks with 1 card starters/combos. Apo isn't a problem. The decks that play Apo, AND KEEP GOING, are the issue.
nah, it's the new archetypes. you wouldn't care about appo if she was only being made in decks that bring her and one other monster out and pass. It's the archetypes that are just out of hand, and most if not all should be locking themselves into the archetype at some chokepoint or another. Hyper-efficient engines + hand trap turbo is going to continue being a problem no matter how many generic bosses they ban
I think everyone has a time where they liked yugioh. But then it changed into a more and more expensive and toxic game. When i joined 2 years ago i was told that the banlist was to balance the game. I experienced some cards i used getting hit on the banlist but majority of those ended in a toxic auto win combo. The last 2 banlists were terrible and just hit decks in ways to make people buy new stuff. Now its just a game for people who can spend 1000 per year on just cards and are comfortable with their investment going to 0 super fast. Also people who want to feel a sense of accomplishment but dont realize theyre playing decks that juat stomp everything else. Only people who consistently buy for crazy prices can win
100 percent it is that chasing of nostalgia and better times. I was talking to my friend about how they need to just introduce more casual formats to get players that quit back into it for the fun of the game like commander format in MTG
You might be interested in Dynamis Duel, a fan-made reboot with over 1300 cards so far that chases that nostalgia and supports multiplayer games just like commander format does.
Oy. I will say this as long as it’s necessary: I played Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! way back in the past and I sensed very early, that it is not what I like about the Game and that it will get worse over time if I continue doing it. So the reason I still like playing the Game is simple: I like casually playing with people and enjoy playing Decks from Anime Characters, Structure Decks and different Archetypes, as well as some Theme based Decks with janky and gimmicky Cards. I also play Magic the Gathering’s Commander Format and enjoy it as much as Yu-Gi-Oh! What can I say? I just like these Games and the Artworks of all the Cards is just amazing. When you like doing something, you won’t stop.^^
Yeah, there's no thrill to it anymore. We actually did the open hand duel as a joke. But it got really really grim whenever someone gets about 3 hand traps in opening hand while the other doesn't. The game literally became hand trap or bust the game these days
Yep, I think a lot of it stems from people wanting to have their cake and eat it too. If you want to play with Symphonic Warriors, play against a deck that's comparable to Symphonic Warriors. It's not like we were playing superpowered-meta decks in the cafeteria; if you want to play like that again then just do it.
@@TheQuilava96 same, I have a friend group that plays master duel. We’re all diamond with decks we enjoy or made ourselves, and always have competitive duels. We just started dipping our toes into the more powerful decks like VV, Mannadium, etc.
I think realistically it is a psychological thing. Yugioh is fun because of how crazy and swingy it is, and there are no real alternatives that can come close to scratching the same itch for most people. But due to its nature, it can be very frustrating, such as when your opponent draws 3 hand traps + a one card starter, or you sit through a combo that looks barely breakable and then get maxx "C" or mulcharmy dropped on you in your standby phase when you finally get to play. I think it's fair to say that many people are also not good at dealing with that frustration and take it out on somebody else, be it venting on social media or blaming some group of players. Another thing is that we all have memories of liking the game as kids, having that hype when your silly 7 card combo resolved or when you got exodia to go off on the playground or just seeing some crazy duel in the anime. But it's impossible for people to fully recreate that. It's not just that we are adults now and can afford better cards instead of just playing with whatever was in your shoebox, it's also that we have just moved into the information era. Whether or not you specifically have, people continued playing the game and optimizing it ever since its release, and that has created many things that have now become common knowledge among active players. You can't just forget how to build a good deck or how to play through some deck's combo once you already know it. And that makes it near-impossible to really recreate that old school experience even if you force yourself back into that card pool and put further restrictions with a sealed or draft environment or something
not too long ago, when swordsoul was very expensive, i was going to every local around me. I cant be bothered anymore. I never thought i would quit but i pretty much have.
This might be a weird take, but I still really like Yugioh the way it is right now, TCG and MD. The reason I complain and want better for the game is partially because I would enjoy it more, but mostly because I can't imagine recommending anyone else try to jump in. It's extremely complicated, it's expensive, there are many good starting points and we ultimately aren't treated well by Konami. I'd love if more of my friends got back into it but why would they when there are so many reasons not to?
I havent played Yugioh in ages but I get strong feelings of nostalgia towards the mid 2000's era which was when I played everyday in highschool. The back and forth turns and the "heart of the cards" moments you have to pull off a win was fun to me. Theres no way I could ever get back into modern play when normal trap cards are too slow for the power crept pace which breaks my brain.
Reasons people dont quit when they hate the game (these were true for me on some for awhile) 1. Sunk cost fallacy: you spend so much money you may as well play the game. 2. Habit: Humans are creatures of habit, if you quit Yugioh then what do you do with your time? 3. Addiction: We all fell in love with the game and chase the feeling thats been gone for years. The game is different, the magic is gone (new feeling of exploration). 4. You dont want to let your friends down: If you have a play group or are on a tournament team, its hard to maintain a friendship and quit the main thing you do with your friends. Its gets people to get out of the house and be social and once you quit you might be all alone. Thoughts?
I mean, there's also the chance they still enjoy aspects of the game while they hate others. Like, for instance, hating playing vs snake-eyes or tenpai but enjoying the game outside of that
For me its a nostalgic thing. It was an escape for me and my brother when our parents divorced back in 2002 and it was also something we bonded over. Love that exodia got support, i loved playing gate guardian and dinos and even to the extend of making character decks to okay through games in the anime. Its was fun, and still is fun if you make it
While I understand that some find yugioh incredibly fun, I find the gameplay to be mad boring. Yes, going first you get to pop off for twenty minutes straight, but if you go second, you literally watch your opponent play for those twenty minutes. Good point that archetypes bring people back in. I came back into the game when my favorite deck got a new structure deck. But I quickly realized the playstyle of yugioh is super un fun, in my opinion. I have more of a board gaming hobby these days and a game where it's mostly solitaire for fifteen minutes before the other player gets a turn just seems wack. I loved yugioh, but it's time has passed imo. I learned i enjoyed magic way more and play that game now. I hate yugioh players argument that "playing one land and passing" is boring first turn. At least you get to play. If your opponent opens the nuts and you open nothing, you legit don't get to play the entire first duel, let alone "the first turn". All that said, yugioh is fun. It's so fun. It skips every other games set up turns and jumps to the climax turns. From there, you play a slog of a duel if someone doesn't outright win. Magic has an "early game" that, while fun for some, others might not see how important those early decisions are long term.
"playing one land and passing" is boring first turn". They don't understand the concept of balanced pacing since they're so used to getting to do everything immediately (most Ygo cards are search engines). I had to comment on Farfa's video before about it because he said something similar. Instant end-games aren't good for any type of competitive play. People are completely hooked on to instant-gratification (a dangerous mental trait) and attention spans are shrinking. Delayed gratification doesn't mean there won't be any. Read the article called "philosophy on combo" by Melissa DeTora. That is what Ygo is dealing with and has been swimming in for years.
Power Creep did kill the game. The game that was. The current version is unrecognizable compared to what we used to enjoy. I know it's not coming back. But that doesn't mean I don't miss what we used to have. For reference, I stopped playing over 10 years ago. Pendulums was the breaking point for many people. For me it was XYZ. Not necessarily the mechanic (although that was part of it) but it was really more about the meta game and what was required to compete at that time.
I actually loved XYZ the most. I felt like it made sense more than synchros which made you have to contemplate the sum of levels rather than making your current decks usable if they already used similar level monsters
being aware of the problems with something you enjoy/are passionate about is not the same as hating it, if anything it's just being depressed knowing it could be better.
Ironically enough the new support for my favorite decks is what made me quit for good. Everything became too streamlined and one dimensional. Too modernized for my taste. I miss how chaotic and inconsistent things were back then. Now the one card starters and such will play your deck for you, and I despise that. I hate how X deck will always do Y&Z.
I will die by this claim but inconsistencies is what makes a card game a CARD GAME! If I wanted to play a truly skill based game, I'd play chess. Card games SHOULD have much more luck than current Yugioh. I'm not saying like insane levels of it like a game of poker, but definitely not so hyper consistent that each game feels the exact same where you can play the same board more or less. Even as recently as AGOV format I'd say the game was more or less healthy. Consistency isn't bad, but hyper Consistency, which the modern decks now need to compete, is an issue. Even Edison format decks have Consistency. Dragon Turbo could 3 out of 5 times still play half their deck turn 1 by using future fusion and super rejuvenation, but the board state from this would vary drastically because you were sacrificing early game board presence in order to gain a hand/graveyard of powerful bodies to swarm the opponent with later. Now, going through half the deck is am expected result and always with the same end board. It doesn't feel like a card game more like a script.
This is exactly what I ended up doing in 2014 pre-Duelist Alliance. Selling every card and moving on to a different game altogether because I couldn’t afford the decks that were fun AND WON on the competitive circuit. I just do Master Duel and Links now because it’s significantly cheaper as a F2P option. Physical game is forever out of my reach at this point
I got back into it because of Master Duel but never had a competitive deck to begin with so I got stuck at Plat 5 for mostly 2 years (Destiny Board) then Rescue-Ace got released and built a pure version of it without Snake-Eyes and managed to climb to Master 4. Mainly because of the artwork and mech theme, can't wait for the new Ancient Gears support and see how far I can go with it.
I don't quit because there's always a way to find joy, whether it's building a new deck, or trying other formats, and every so often they actually get a banlist right and the game becomes B far the most fun game in existence - just look at how great AGOV format was.
Despite feeling dissatisfied, disappointed, angered and worried over the current state of Yugioh, I've realized that feeling this way is quite reassuring, for if I don't feel anything for this game, I wouldn't care enough to give two hoots about the rough shape it's in.
I think most people here doesn't know the fact that why people still playing YuGiOh in 2024. And i will stop there because we all know why they played with the most unbearable playstyle without letting someone take their turn.
I’m teetering on the game. I have never gone to events and I don’t enjoy the tournaments. I’m more into yugioh with my 2 other friends that we use it to really just have fun. We’ve made a format we like which is just Battle Royal and our turns take at most 2-3 minutes and our games last 2 hours. We’ve banned decks if the turn time takes longer than 3 minutes. I played Yugioh to actually play Yugioh, not sit there for 10 minutes (feels like 30) watching someone make a board which makes me not able to do anything. Yugioh is no longer a Casual Game made for fun like the Creator wanted. It’s a Competitive Nightmare created to just waste your time and make you feel dead inside
Oh no, he spoke the real truth. The truth truth, its not copium or whatever, its that despite everything people who play find ways to have fun in the game.
Imagine telling your opponent to find a way to have fun after negating their ability to play the game. You might as well just literally set their deck on fire because they won't be playing the card game anyway. That's the truth.
For me, its the community aspect. Maybe not the bigger format and tournament scene, but the local level. Yugioh has been what I do with my friends since 2003
Been playing on and off since Kaiba and Yugi starter decks. This game is great, not with out its faults, and I would love to see it continue to succeed. Which is why I feel the community base gets passionate when they feel like the game is not going in the right direction.
I initially got back into YuGiOh with Master Duel after almost 20 years away from the game. I thought for sure I’d play for a month or two and fall off, but the game is just genuinely VERY fun to play, and there’s nothing else like it. I love other card games but at its peak, YuGiOh just hits so hard.
I've sort of lost the fun aspect. The way the ladder system works in Master Duel it's demotivating to rank up on a 8 win streak from Diamond I to Master IV, followed by a 4 win streak, and then immediately go 2nd 3 times in a row to leading to derank and lose out on 2hrs of the time it took to climb a rank in Master rank.
@@joshuadansby2874 Yeah fun has to be earned through the gems of ranking up. Then you can play whatever in Master 1 and Rated Duels without real consequence. If only every rank up was a checkpoint essentially like DL17 in DC Cups.
I love picking a deck and running with it. I played Buster Blader for years and found many ways to make it successful. But it couldn’t keep up with most meta decks. I swapped to Branded Despia for a while, the endless recursion, being able to full combo, play under droll, play through an ash or effect Veiler and even Nibiru and end with 5 cards in my hand. I loved it. But I wanted something new. I went against Kashtira a few times playing Branded and they were fun matches. So I picked up Kashtira. Now I’m playing Kashtira, every week is deck building and throwing in gimmicky cards just because I love seeing my opponent’s face when throw them off with a card from 2005. Lmao. I’ve been splashing in Dino’s into Kashtira and while the Dino discord server tells me I’m crazy, I have successfully resolved Lost World and turned off my opponent’s targeting effects so I can play through Imperms and Effect Veiler. It’s been too much fun to stop. The deck building for me is the fun part. My deck is never the same deck from one month to the next. As the meta changes and as other decks change, I constantly adapt while I still work on my buster blader deck on the side. I take the experience from my better decks and slowly adjust my buster deck to one day go against the meta when it’s ready.
My unironic biggest problem is the combination of the fact that I want to be able to be a top player and have that actually mean something other than losing a ton of money and I can do that in EVERY other relevant TCG, but none are as fun. I firmly believe that if you live and breathe this game so much that you are a top ten or even top one hundred player in the world it shouldn't mean that it's actively costing you thousands of dollars each year. At least break even, preferably a minimum wage should be made for the top 100 and a decent payout for our top ten players.
6:45 I'm here for the vibes. It's nicer to hear the experiences and personal perspectives than a factual breakdown of the 999 reasons players are having battered wife syndrome. Anyone can see the cracks clearly for themselves if they play.
All I do is play master duel now. The format is much more diverse at the moment. The TCG on the other hand, I haven’t went to locals in a couple months
Yugioh is a blast! From deck building to gameplay. Yes, the state of the game could be overwhelming, but the fantasy and strategy in the game is beyond satisfacting and rewarding. Nothing better than seeing my deck work as intended, win or lose... While feeling like an anime character willing extreme power😂 I went a bit over the top, but that's YGO at the end for me.
I think it's slowly becoming more apparent that we might be dealing with the TCG RnD & OCG RnD Offices, along with the corporate side of Yugioh being at odds. It's probably been this way since at least 2018. I believe the TCG team/NA offices are fully aware of the games issues and know what the right moves are, but are stuck between a wall and a hard place. Doing the impossible task of cleaning up the mess left by OCG card design with recent ban lists while juggling reprint equity and future support. While also being unable to make more expansive changes (like fixing the games product design/rarity system) due to the multi-headed hydra that must be navigating the games corporate bureaucracy.
I quit once and got dragged back in like ten years later. Probably won't quit outright again, but definitely will flow between playing the game with mates regularly and stretches of playing everything else so I don't get burnt out on Yugioh. With how hard it can be to get the cards you want/need to even make casual decks, on top of the insanity that is the meta and modern card design, I can see why people would be quitting the game these days though. It can be hard to imagine the game won't be further powercrept to the point of no return, especially when it at times feels like that has already come to pass, which also doesn't help with wanting to keep following the game. I find that playing casually is probably the best to enjoy the game for most people these days. Especially if you play a wide variety of decks and don't really use the typical "you can't play now" meta strategies (a completely one sided game isn't a fun game).
Yugioh is TCG ice cream. Waiting on resources is like eating your vegetables, but Yugioh skips straight to dessert. Ice cream for every meal, however, causes problems. Also, sometimes your ice cream has roaches in it, people keep slapping it out of your hands, or you can't buy anything smaller than a 5-gallon container.
Honestly for example The random blue eyes player or stubborn player on master duel playing a non meta deck keeps the game feeling fresh I know they're old cards and such I dont mind facing the meta new stuff but it can get a bit repetitive if you face the same deck over and over
I remember when I played Hearthstone and thought that Hearthstone, at its core, is a fun game. After years of playing fairly casually, I realized that I never really had fun with the metas and fighting against those decks, despite thinking I should like the game, so I quit. The memories are nice, but that's all that they are. I don't need to play the game to have access to those memories.
I play casual Yugioh n I still enjoy playing em’. The only sad part bout it on my side of the bargain is that whenever i try to buy the cards or supplies i want from the store or online; it’s out of stock n unclear when it will restock come back thus idk how Yugioh stuff not showing up n sometimes i get nervous the stuff i order doesn’t show up at our house (thankfully sometimes i get my money back). Ik it’s seems to be the end for most Yugioh players becuz either the fun is gone n moving on to other TCG card games until some hope Konami will shine again n regain their status. OR maybe sometimes some tcg will not last forever but depending on how we all feel bout the Yugioh tcg n it’s kinda a “miss u” yugioh n it just isn’t there anymore. Yugioh isn’t forgotten, it’s just not enjoyable enough.
Yu Gi Oh's awesome! I've denied myself the pleasure of playing my whole life until two weeks ago. I splurged and bought so many Booster Packs and Tins without reason or rhyme, but it was awesome. I'm looking at local shops to duel. I hope more people get into it. I don't think about what's meta. I'm having fun finding my own deck through dueling.
I’m a wave. Played it when I was a kid, stopped cause of hormones and selfish desires and making poor life choices and then making a friend at work and getting back into it. I go full fledged, get burnt out, take a break, go full again, get burnt out, rinse and repeat 😂 I loved it then and I love it now. I think everyone either finds things to or makes things up to complain about with nearly everything in life. Even when things are good lol we have a tendency to, with all the spare time we have not hunting and gathering, dwell on things that don’t need to be thought about as much as we think about them 😂 I’m guilty, work is bullshit lol but Yugioh is fun and I personally love how wild it’s gotten 😂
I personally hate when some decks like branded (my current main deck) get shitted on when other decks can do the same shit but worse. Or when you play against other decks that legit need a half hour to make a lame board unironically
Maybe we come back to yugioh because it is flawed. Every flaw is like a challenge which is fun to overcome. Like finding a personal way to enjoy the game, managing to finally learn what the cards do despite them being so long, learning to cope with long combos, etc.
Havent plsyed yugioh in 10 years and haven't been happier. Konami truly runs their game like shit. I just enjoy seeing all the players in stockholm syndrome and make content because of it. People who cant leave just have a addiction problem especially if their mad 99% of the time.
Everyone should practice walking away from each thing they indulge in for a week to make sure they are not addicted and that it is not harmful toward them.
I stopped playing yugioh I'm may. Definitely was an addiction at that point because I haven't felt the desire to play since. I'm upset because I finally got my whole Purrely deck tricked out with custom purrely mat, field center, tokens, and fun deck box only to never get to really use them. I did like playing genuinely from like September through this past march, and April through May was cost sunk fallacy.
@@jeanpitre5789 Practicing the self control to walk away and come back is really healthy. I am currently not playing but plan to start again, just not sure when at the moment. I planned on saving up for a full Tempi dragon deck mostly copying the deck that won in EU, but it's hard to justify spending money on this game at all and they are other newer decks that seem to be a better investment so for now I am just waiting on the side lines thinking if I want to play or not. If my favorite archetype gets new support then I would be back playing trying to push a non-meta deck as far as it can go. I tend to take some time away from everything just to make sure I am not fooling myself into believing or thinking things that go against reality itself. The common one to give up for a week is all news to see how it affects the mind, where other things such as reading all of the 5 foot book shelf of classics tends to quickly become a month instead of just a week because that one book drags like sand paper because it is listed after Milton's and does not match his craft for writing. Yet, with that typed, the Harvard classics are really enjoyable once you get into reading them.
The reason we keep playing Yu-Gi-Oh, regardless of all our complaining, has nothing to do with Yu-Gi-Oh... It's just human nature to complain, you see this in almost every game (especially mobile games) yet most peoples keep playing it. Also, it seems like this is a business model atm: make bad descisions, let players complain and then make it player friendly to get the players goodwill back.
I was a yugioh player for 15 years, and decided to quit last year back in September. I recently picked up Magic the Gathering(commander) and can confirm its 100% better than yugioh after being loyal to the game for majority of my life. I've never looked back since, or even thought about picking yugioh back up
I’m arguably not a Yu-Gi-Oh player anymore. I stopped playing the TCG in like 2006 and tried Duel Links a couple years ago, but now my only interaction (pun intended) with the game is Speed Duel. I’d like to try Edison, but no one at my locals plays. I first collected Pokemon cards in elementary school, but Yu-Gi-Oh was my first TCG and I had a lot of fun playing on the playground. That and the DM anime are the only reason I have any interest in the franchise at all. I started playing Flesh & Blood, my first TCG since 2006, a year ago and am really loving it. I first got into it wanting to relive my Yu-Gi-Oh playground experience since the modern game is way beyond anything I have any interest in. After a couple months of FaB I realized I much preferred it to my playground experience or DL or SD, but Yu-Gi-Oh has a special place in my heart as my first card game that got me interested in them. Deckbuilding games are some of my favorites, and I attribute that to my early experience with Yu-Gi-Oh. Before I got into FaB when I would play a deckbuilder it let me relive my Yu-Gi-Oh days.
100%. Yu-Gi-Oh is a game. It's supposed to be fun. If you hate current meta, try just playing with friends with lower power decks or even a draft/cube. It is also totally fine to say Yu-Gi-Oh isn't what you want it to be and try a different game.
The lack of cost is absolutely infuriating to be on the wrong end of but when to benefit from it, it do be stupid fun but sadly that fun is extremely one sided. (Honestly it is possible even with maxx c on master duel, as much as it is arguably a problem card, so are all the effects that pop off like no tomorrow and wipe your opponents work clear from under them. Again fun if on "right" end of it really unfun to be on the wrong end of it.)
I think games with high power levels invite this kind of high salt behavior amongst those that play it because of how often you can win big in a fun way that might be at the detriment of your opponent's fun. You made a comparison between PTCG and YGO and I feel like it's a fun coincidence that it isn't uncommon to find similar complaints in reference to the differences between fighting games like Street Fighter and fighting games like Marvel or Guilty Gear. I think punishing losses can get to us all no matter how familiar we are with them, but when balanced out with the uncomparable rush you get from winning in these types of games you get something like a gambler's high that can keep people coming back
I have been taking a break from modern yugi and playing Edison/One Piece and I do really like those a lot but mermail is my favorite deck of all time and the new support is going to make me play again lol
It's hard to quit yugioh forever because at the end of the day, the game is still unique in a way that no other card game has come close to replicating. Virtually every major TCG in existence even TO THIS DAY has a resource system of some type, usually a direct clone of the mana system from MtG, some directly like Pokemon's energies, or One Piece's Don cards, or Lorcana's ink system, or indirectly, such as Digimon's memory, Weiss Schwartz level system, or Flesh and Blood's Energy system which are creative resource systems comparatively but STILL a resource system. The fact Yugioh has NO limiting resource system means games are not restrained by your resources but your hand. This was never "fair" so to speak and that was the point! Your opponent got to play 3 monsters, 2 spells, and set 2 traps before passing turn and all you had was a normal summon? Tough shit! Deckbuild better so you too could go buckwild in a match. It was designed to be a power fantasy game, which was always reflective by the large numbers of stats and lifepoints Yugioh has compared to all other games. Also it made deck building your SOLE limiting factor, which to many felt great. You couldnt blame a match loss on not being able to draw/acculate/use enough resource to fully utilize your hand, which had the win if you just had a bit more resource. You lost because your deck ratios wasn't as good as your opponent's, because your only limiting factor WAS your one normal summon (which hasn't been a limit since 2008). That, combined with the infinite format with no rotations lead to deck building possibilities other games could never achieve, and that all feels fulfilling. However, these aspects which made is wonderful would inevitably become its downfall, as power creep became so rapid and unchecked that the power fantasy isn't a hopeful end goal, its an expected turn one result, with the game now shifting to preventing your opponent from fully achieving the power fantasy to play, and thats less fun. Still, conceptually Yugioh will remain a GOAT, at least until another game can mimic what it does well mechanically while removing how age has made it less enjoyable. Until then, we have to love it, because nothing feels quite as good as activating your trap card, or summoning your boss monster to swing for game. As much as i love lorcana, questing for my 20th lore to win the match will NEVER feel as satisfying as declaring my Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon to obliterate my opponent's remainjng lifepoints!
its all fun until 3 people in the Master Duel Fusion Festival resolve Albion to brick me with a Ra's Disciple in 2024 at the start of the match and then proceeds to synchro spam in a fusion event
Fun is very subjective. If you enjoy sometimes being the one whos able to play solitaire and stop your oppnent from playing at all (The bully) then yeah modern yugioh can be fun. If you want a balanced experience that is accesible and easy to get into then it will be miserable. This is why yugioh isn't gaining players. Imagine beling able to play your game, and not be solitaired at only to be hand trapped as soon as you think its your turn. Thats what yugioh has become, you could be at the top of your game at the championship and not even get to play if you draw bad...
I love this game but NOT how it is but how I play it. I don’t play in any competitive scene. I collect, build decks, and play with my son. All of my decks are designed to be as fair and as pure as possible. So, I’ve quit the game that Konami has ruined but keep playing the one that I wish it would be.
I think the game is in a really poor state right now, and in general, I don't agree with how Konami handles a great deal of their card design. But I think at its core, yugioh is a fantastically complicated and rewarding game, which at least keeps me around. I also think that we've had some really great formats, even in recent memory. Late 2023 format was incredible, and I think a diverse format like that is still possible to attain.
The game was fun, is fun outside of its locals but as far as it goes it’s dying because nothing is being challenged or changed. Thank god Pokemon, digimon & one piece exists
For me since I mainly play dark magician and blue eyes I’ve come to accept there’s a ceiling on how far I will get in ranked master duel. I used to be so angry going against the meta decks but now i just play my game and i find myself dealing with it a lot better now. At the end of the day it’s just a game and there’s no need to allow it to break my spirit. With that being said i still hate kashtira and utopia, those players did me so dirty I’ll never forgive them. 😂😂
I just love Blue-Eyes and Dark Magician, and since they keep supporting them as the poster child for the game, that is pretty much the only thing that keeps me playing. Anime archetypes are pretty much the only thing that keeps me playing, and I only really watched DM and some GX and 5Ds, with Duel Links being my introduction to the rest of the anime, which severely limits my interest in the game. The problem with the game is it has become prevent the opponent from playing, because the newest decks do way too much, instead of actually playing the game. Table 500 is where I enjoy the game, but I don't know anyone that still plays. So, I don't have an easy way to get those experiences, since Master Duel and Duel Links, well really the TCG too, all revolve around competitive, which isn't fun to me.
It is the most fun TCG everything else feels slow. I just want 2 things, I want traps to be good cards again(that would literally solve the main complaint I didnt get a turn to play) and I want good zombie cards. Gosh i miss Card of Safe Return zombies and Zombie Synchro so much.
People just quickly get used to things and seldom change them. Its like the people that play the same late 90s early 2000s video game to this day sometimes through remasters and sometimes just og and they tend to look over the glaring issues new players might notice cuz theyre so used to them and get defensive when someone gives any critique. I dont think this is necessarily bad finding your own thing that you like it can be very good especially if you connect with people and make friends through it that also make you wanna stick around. But it feels like this type of person never tries anything new and never actually puts the same amount of heart into new hobbies/games. And so they tend to stick to what they know they like and works for them. Simply cuz they dont know any other good experiences.
I honestly have never come close to hating Yu-Gi-Oh, I love the game. There have been some formats that haven't been to my liking in which I took breaks, but even then I remained in touch with it. What I do hate is Konami of America, they are absolutely the problem. I don't care if they are nice people who love the game; if their contributions are worse quality, horrible sets, stores dropping Yu-Gi-Oh, artificial scarcity and inaccessible staples, then they are a net negative for the game, and not a small one.
To put simply, we play it because we're stupid. There's no real way around it. Im only talking about competitive players though. Anyone else playing fun formats or casually are just enjoying themselves. I watch players in ranked MD literally raging because they lost to Maxx C, SE etc etc, TCG players crying about events and yet still claiming to go out to lose more money.
I mean no body wants to quit their main TCG. It’s their comfort food but Konami makes it so people don’t like the game anymore but don’t want to quit, they just want it fixed
Hey paul, i shall be honest as can be, i’ve got autism and a hyper focus on yugioh, sadly don’t play events, just with friends once in a while. I buy a few packs when i can, since it’s fun for me. I’ve got 19 decks, with only one of them that’s a bit meta-ish (branded/despia) And the other 18 are just horribly bad, but i made them for fun and trying to summon a hard to summon monster in the original way, like gate guardian in my gate guardian deck. I’m just enjoy the game really casually as can, since i’m far from being a good duelist. But i won’t have it any other way, since yugioh has been with me for a huge part of my life. And if, in the future, konami decides to stop with yugioh, that would be my biggest disappointment in life Thank you for this curious and wondering video! Greetings fromout the netherlands~
Some facts:
1. I stink at Yugioh. I will always make the misplay because I'm a simpleton
2. I freaking love this game. I'll keep playing.
3. It can be very expensive. I stopped META chasing and learned to relax.
4. Pass turn
felt that in my soul
Similarly for me. I guess, most of the problems of current Yu-Gi-Oh don't apply to me, when I only play rogue/casual decks (or budget versions of meta decks) at locals. I think I kind of have to play this way, because I don't find too much time learning the currently best decks and come up with the best side decking pattern.
Because of this
(1) I don't really care too much about the card prices. (I play the meta decks from 1 or 2 years ago, which are now balanced and dirt cheap. Same goes with everything else in life btw. movies, video games, etc. Everything fom 2 years ago is cheap because the hipe is over.) Also I find it very interesting to find budget alternatives of cards and decks.
(2) I don't care about prizing at events, because I know I will never get near a top at big event anyway.
(3) I don't care about a non-diverse meta, that might be unfun, because everyone only plays one of 3 decks at big events, because I only play at locals, where there is waaay more deck diversity.
(4) I don't care about a too diverse meta game, where you don't know what to put into your side deck to counter each deck, because I generally suck too much at the game, especially the side deck building and the side decking pattern anyway.
I guess I could complain about how broken cards are always expensive and how one year later they might get banned right after they are being reprinted (and thus cheap again). But then again, since I play only cheap budget decks, I can never really lose much money.
I don't even play meta decks. Go rouge!
Based!
YuGiHo chad 🔥🔥🔥
Look what no banlist is doing Paul.
The banlist situation is funny af 😂
Just a case of banlist fever
I saw someone use the puking horse meme, but it’s the Triple Tactics Thrust art overlayed on top of it
Larry might rock bottom him again at this rate!
It is coming 31st 11:59pm be patient.
I play for nostalgic fun but dueling someone in Master Duel who takes 10 minutes to end up with a full board is frustrating
I was looking at my screenshots on Steam a couple days ago and saw one of the first turn where my opponent ends on a full board, full backrow, and 22 cards left in their deck. This reminded me why I stopped playing.
u can still play ygo in edopro aka ygo simulator with free cards. Old format duels like goat, edison, tengu are played among nostalgic players there.
The timer for each turn is 300 seconds, which is usually cut down to 270 by the time the lag is over, which is five minutes, and you only gain 30s per turn.
@@NotControlledByMillipedes yeah there’s lag, me clicking if I want to respond, animation time, pitching/milling, etc. The 300s can get dragged out to feel like 10 minutes for me to end up surrendering because of 3+ negates
@@Boyzby going 2nd to this is the worst lol
My reason for not quitting is because even since childhood, ive made many friends and memories through the game. Itd feel like losing a big part of myself if i quit.
So sunk cost fallacy and identity issues essentially
@@mujigant sure, if you want an answer with no substance of explanation.
I only play duel links now so not quit the game completely but the tcg is definitely bad now. Im even enjoying rush duels more than the normal duels surprisingly
It's only fun if you're actually allowed to play but the current game design is made to prevent people from playing which means you're not going to be having fun unless both you and your opponent are playing older decks without tons of negates, floodgates, and hand traps which is unlikely or very rare. Yugioh used to be fun. It's not in the current state of the game. Thems the brakes.
I heavily disagree. I think modern yugioh, aside from a few decks in particular, is very fun and FAR more interactive than literally any other card game, and even those few decks that aren't terribly FUN are at least mechanically interesting and encourage constant interaction. People saying that Yugioh lacks interaction is a common talking point that really irks me. If you've played a modern game of yugioh, you KNOW that interaction is a constant consideration, to the point where in a tourney we don't DECLARE an effect we ATTEMPT an effect. There simply isn't another major card game that does this. The CLOSEST you get is Modern in Magic the Gathering with Instants/counterspells, but even those are so fundamentally different in how they function that it's not REALLY a comparison beyond a teaching example.
And beyond that, saying that the goal of MODERN yugioh is prevent your opponent from playing is ignoring how the game has ALWAYS worked. The ENTIRE purpose of a deck in yugioh has ALWAYS been to, in one way or another, completely incapacitate your opponent. The ONLY significant difference in a current Advanced tournament match, and Edison, is the time scale that happens on. Modern yugioh REQUIRES you to seriously consider EVERY card in your deck, older formats are much more forgiving in what cards you choose to play. the game isn't truly different, or even just WORSE, it's just FASTER. Those are not the same thing.
I really dont get the people that like stopping the opponent from playing, thats sooooooooo boring.
Thats not interaction, thats the same as watching paint dry.
@@neonoah3353while I think we can all agree a deck filled with negates feels degenerate, it’s important to note that the ultimate goal of EVERY card game is to prevent your opponent from playing.
Even in something as fundamental as poker, the intended outcome is to get your opponents to fold (aka not play their hand).
I think the key is in HOW the deck interrupts. Popping and returning to the hand, for example, feel the most fine due to the fact the effect still resolves, so they can be played around.
The way Konami treated Hideo Kojima, yes, I would consider them one of the worst companies.
As for Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's literally the relationship of an ex-girlfriend. There will be fun times where everything is okay and seems to be going well and then you're reminded on why you got angry or frustrated and want to stop/leave again. Until either of you move on/change, it's going to repeat over and over until something finally breaks.
The lack of a resource system in Yu-Gi-Oh really entices players to think outside the box and come up with these really cool/janky card combos you won’t find anywhere else, and *I’m all for it.*
@@Ninjagospinjitzu22 Yea, it's so dope when you hit crazy combos vs your opponent to win a game.
Yes but the lack of restrictions is also the very reason why everyone is always complaining and waiting for the next ban list to come and save the day (which it never does).
@@Ninjagospinjitzu22 yes and no. The lack of resources and ability to have generic extra deck monsters let's rouge decks pop off a bit. But in games like magic, since resources are a thing, I find that deck diversity can be even greater. In commander especially. People can fill their decks with lands and ways to get lands, and then they're able to play fun jank as well. I think in Mtg it's more fun too since I find every YGO jank deck usually falls through the same end board. Most if not all "unique" jank decks play Saryudra and one point, end on SP and/or Appolo, and so on. In magic, jank piles don't end on the same thing every time. The lack of resource kind of leads to every deck being "sammey"
Have you seen the kind of wacky infinite loop combos they have in Magic? Wacky/jank combos/strategies isn't exclusive to Yu-Gi-Oh.
@@NaNa_W4NT5_F3MNM5 It's not that. It's that you can't unload a third to a half of your deck on turn 1 cuz there's no mana system. There's no cost to activating cards in Yugioh.
Fun is its greatest strength. It’s key asset. The only cure to all the issues at play within the vocal internet community currently. It’s what’ll keep the game alive beyond this time period where video after video is either titled “I quit” or “Yugioh is dying”. But the game won’t fade so long as the game accomplishes one simple thing…
Being fun!
And I’ll speak for myself and say I’m still havin it!
Play casual, have fun duelists!
But how can you play casual when only the supported formats are for "competitive only" while Konami does not recognize the others out there?
At this rate, you will only play with your circle of associates and that's it.
@@edpaolosalting9116 nothing wrong with playing with friends! Case & point! It’s for fun, so who better to play with than “associates” aka friends!
The anime itself made it a point time & time again. Case closed!
i wish your turn was actually your turn
Then you'll love Pokemon lol
I don’t, interaction is a high point of the game. There’s other games where you have no “spell speed 2” cards.
That’s technically false. What sets Yugioh apart from other TCG’s is its micro interactions and nuances that takes quite a lot of skill to pull off; miss timings is an example of a mechanic that is easy to learn on paper, but during a duel, it can be easily missed and hard to master.
You really can’t afford to sit there twiddling your thumbs going second like I do with other games like Lorcana. The lack of any sort of interaction with the other games does become extremely stale.
@@cbgg1585 I'm just traditional with card games I guess personally not a fan but I understand why it's there
Then don't play yugioh! It's the one game that does this.
I play Yu-Gi-Oh because: 1. No rotation, the whole 25 years are deckable (Except forbidden). 2. Deckbuilding heaven. 3. Support can drop at any time and revive a beloved pet-deck while getting cool new stuff. 4. Highest creativity in a card game. 5. Least restrictions on a card game ever. (40-60 deck, 15 ex, have fun)
The biggest problem is just run away mechanics: Oppressive lockouts (limits creativity), oppressive recursion (You sent my card to GY which gets me two new monsters!), too much interaction (OUR TURN) and too much power on individual card (We are getting to the point of 3 mechanics on ONE card is the norm). As long as you don't play professionally it's super fun.
I stopped playing last year. I picked up Magic The Gathering. I actually got a good amount of commander decks together after selling my collection. All I have now for Yu-Gi-Oh is my childhood deck from like 15 years ago. I probably will never play Yu-Gi-Oh ever again unless there's a major shake-up and I mean MAJOR. Heck this probably only showed up in my feed because I was watching a bunch of the professor's videos on MTG.
The professor's videos are awesome. I wish Paul would do mtg videos with the Prof.
I don't even play Magic and I love watching Prof talk about Magic and the product reviews. Even listening to random episodes of Dies to Removal is entertaining to me.
I don’t get frustrated on the strength of particular cards, it’s more so the accessibility. Apollousa just takes 4 random cards to make? I wouldn’t mind cards like that if they actually take effort to make and are a little more high risk/high reward
Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess, and I say this genuinely, is one of the most well designed yugioh cards ever printed. BUT. Will be unfair until we are no longer able to play decks with 1 card starters/combos. Apo isn't a problem. The decks that play Apo, AND KEEP GOING, are the issue.
Nah, apollousa was a problem.
nah, it's the new archetypes. you wouldn't care about appo if she was only being made in decks that bring her and one other monster out and pass. It's the archetypes that are just out of hand, and most if not all should be locking themselves into the archetype at some chokepoint or another. Hyper-efficient engines + hand trap turbo is going to continue being a problem no matter how many generic bosses they ban
I think everyone has a time where they liked yugioh. But then it changed into a more and more expensive and toxic game. When i joined 2 years ago i was told that the banlist was to balance the game. I experienced some cards i used getting hit on the banlist but majority of those ended in a toxic auto win combo. The last 2 banlists were terrible and just hit decks in ways to make people buy new stuff. Now its just a game for people who can spend 1000 per year on just cards and are comfortable with their investment going to 0 super fast. Also people who want to feel a sense of accomplishment but dont realize theyre playing decks that juat stomp everything else. Only people who consistently buy for crazy prices can win
100 percent it is that chasing of nostalgia and better times. I was talking to my friend about how they need to just introduce more casual formats to get players that quit back into it for the fun of the game like commander format in MTG
@@tristanpYGO yea man master duel could add game modes that have specific banlists. Or SOMETHING different
You might be interested in Dynamis Duel, a fan-made reboot with over 1300 cards so far that chases that nostalgia and supports multiplayer games just like commander format does.
Oy.
I will say this as long as it’s necessary:
I played Competitive Yu-Gi-Oh! way back in the past and I sensed very early, that it is not what I like about the Game and that it will get worse over time if I continue doing it.
So the reason I still like playing the Game is simple:
I like casually playing with people and enjoy playing Decks from Anime Characters, Structure Decks and different Archetypes, as well as some Theme based Decks with janky and gimmicky Cards.
I also play Magic the Gathering’s Commander Format and enjoy it as much as Yu-Gi-Oh!
What can I say? I just like these Games and the Artworks of all the Cards is just amazing.
When you like doing something, you won’t stop.^^
Yugioh can be boring when alot of the decks are the same meta and almost every deck takes 5 to 10 minutes to set up and unbreakable board
taking 5 or 10 minutes is not a Big deal and no yu gi oh is not boring what drugs are you on
Yeah, there's no thrill to it anymore. We actually did the open hand duel as a joke. But it got really really grim whenever someone gets about 3 hand traps in opening hand while the other doesn't.
The game literally became hand trap or bust the game these days
Then don’t play the game. You are not forced to play anything.
I actually think the game is fun and that’s because I play with my friends and not with strangers much
Yep, I think a lot of it stems from people wanting to have their cake and eat it too. If you want to play with Symphonic Warriors, play against a deck that's comparable to Symphonic Warriors. It's not like we were playing superpowered-meta decks in the cafeteria; if you want to play like that again then just do it.
@@TheQuilava96 same, I have a friend group that plays master duel. We’re all diamond with decks we enjoy or made ourselves, and always have competitive duels. We just started dipping our toes into the more powerful decks like VV, Mannadium, etc.
Simply, we quit the game. But NEVER the community. This is our found family.
I think realistically it is a psychological thing. Yugioh is fun because of how crazy and swingy it is, and there are no real alternatives that can come close to scratching the same itch for most people. But due to its nature, it can be very frustrating, such as when your opponent draws 3 hand traps + a one card starter, or you sit through a combo that looks barely breakable and then get maxx "C" or mulcharmy dropped on you in your standby phase when you finally get to play. I think it's fair to say that many people are also not good at dealing with that frustration and take it out on somebody else, be it venting on social media or blaming some group of players.
Another thing is that we all have memories of liking the game as kids, having that hype when your silly 7 card combo resolved or when you got exodia to go off on the playground or just seeing some crazy duel in the anime. But it's impossible for people to fully recreate that. It's not just that we are adults now and can afford better cards instead of just playing with whatever was in your shoebox, it's also that we have just moved into the information era. Whether or not you specifically have, people continued playing the game and optimizing it ever since its release, and that has created many things that have now become common knowledge among active players. You can't just forget how to build a good deck or how to play through some deck's combo once you already know it. And that makes it near-impossible to really recreate that old school experience even if you force yourself back into that card pool and put further restrictions with a sealed or draft environment or something
not too long ago, when swordsoul was very expensive, i was going to every local around me. I cant be bothered anymore. I never thought i would quit but i pretty much have.
It’s a grind, but I’m waiting for the day we finally get the duel disk hologram technology
This might be a weird take, but I still really like Yugioh the way it is right now, TCG and MD. The reason I complain and want better for the game is partially because I would enjoy it more, but mostly because I can't imagine recommending anyone else try to jump in. It's extremely complicated, it's expensive, there are many good starting points and we ultimately aren't treated well by Konami. I'd love if more of my friends got back into it but why would they when there are so many reasons not to?
I havent played Yugioh in ages but I get strong feelings of nostalgia towards the mid 2000's era which was when I played everyday in highschool. The back and forth turns and the "heart of the cards" moments you have to pull off a win was fun to me. Theres no way I could ever get back into modern play when normal trap cards are too slow for the power crept pace which breaks my brain.
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Reasons people dont quit when they hate the game (these were true for me on some for awhile)
1. Sunk cost fallacy: you spend so much money you may as well play the game.
2. Habit: Humans are creatures of habit, if you quit Yugioh then what do you do with your time?
3. Addiction: We all fell in love with the game and chase the feeling thats been gone for years. The game is different, the magic is gone (new feeling of exploration).
4. You dont want to let your friends down: If you have a play group or are on a tournament team, its hard to maintain a friendship and quit the main thing you do with your friends. Its gets people to get out of the house and be social and once you quit you might be all alone.
Thoughts?
I mean, there's also the chance they still enjoy aspects of the game while they hate others. Like, for instance, hating playing vs snake-eyes or tenpai but enjoying the game outside of that
For me its a nostalgic thing. It was an escape for me and my brother when our parents divorced back in 2002 and it was also something we bonded over. Love that exodia got support, i loved playing gate guardian and dinos and even to the extend of making character decks to okay through games in the anime. Its was fun, and still is fun if you make it
I like how the autofocus really wants me to see Paul's hand
While I understand that some find yugioh incredibly fun, I find the gameplay to be mad boring. Yes, going first you get to pop off for twenty minutes straight, but if you go second, you literally watch your opponent play for those twenty minutes.
Good point that archetypes bring people back in. I came back into the game when my favorite deck got a new structure deck. But I quickly realized the playstyle of yugioh is super un fun, in my opinion. I have more of a board gaming hobby these days and a game where it's mostly solitaire for fifteen minutes before the other player gets a turn just seems wack.
I loved yugioh, but it's time has passed imo. I learned i enjoyed magic way more and play that game now. I hate yugioh players argument that "playing one land and passing" is boring first turn. At least you get to play. If your opponent opens the nuts and you open nothing, you legit don't get to play the entire first duel, let alone "the first turn".
All that said, yugioh is fun. It's so fun. It skips every other games set up turns and jumps to the climax turns. From there, you play a slog of a duel if someone doesn't outright win. Magic has an "early game" that, while fun for some, others might not see how important those early decisions are long term.
"playing one land and passing" is boring first turn".
They don't understand the concept of balanced pacing since they're so used to getting to do everything immediately (most Ygo cards are search engines). I had to comment on Farfa's video before about it because he said something similar. Instant end-games aren't good for any type of competitive play. People are completely hooked on to instant-gratification (a dangerous mental trait) and attention spans are shrinking. Delayed gratification doesn't mean there won't be any.
Read the article called "philosophy on combo" by Melissa DeTora. That is what Ygo is dealing with and has been swimming in for years.
Power Creep did kill the game. The game that was. The current version is unrecognizable compared to what we used to enjoy. I know it's not coming back. But that doesn't mean I don't miss what we used to have.
For reference, I stopped playing over 10 years ago. Pendulums was the breaking point for many people. For me it was XYZ. Not necessarily the mechanic (although that was part of it) but it was really more about the meta game and what was required to compete at that time.
I actually loved XYZ the most. I felt like it made sense more than synchros which made you have to contemplate the sum of levels rather than making your current decks usable if they already used similar level monsters
being aware of the problems with something you enjoy/are passionate about is not the same as hating it, if anything it's just being depressed knowing it could be better.
Ironically enough the new support for my favorite decks is what made me quit for good. Everything became too streamlined and one dimensional. Too modernized for my taste. I miss how chaotic and inconsistent things were back then. Now the one card starters and such will play your deck for you, and I despise that. I hate how X deck will always do Y&Z.
I will die by this claim but inconsistencies is what makes a card game a CARD GAME! If I wanted to play a truly skill based game, I'd play chess. Card games SHOULD have much more luck than current Yugioh. I'm not saying like insane levels of it like a game of poker, but definitely not so hyper consistent that each game feels the exact same where you can play the same board more or less. Even as recently as AGOV format I'd say the game was more or less healthy. Consistency isn't bad, but hyper Consistency, which the modern decks now need to compete, is an issue. Even Edison format decks have Consistency. Dragon Turbo could 3 out of 5 times still play half their deck turn 1 by using future fusion and super rejuvenation, but the board state from this would vary drastically because you were sacrificing early game board presence in order to gain a hand/graveyard of powerful bodies to swarm the opponent with later. Now, going through half the deck is am expected result and always with the same end board. It doesn't feel like a card game more like a script.
Doing the exact same duel over and over just sound like insanity to me, deck being inconsistent solve that
This is exactly what I ended up doing in 2014 pre-Duelist Alliance. Selling every card and moving on to a different game altogether because I couldn’t afford the decks that were fun AND WON on the competitive circuit. I just do Master Duel and Links now because it’s significantly cheaper as a F2P option. Physical game is forever out of my reach at this point
APS Amplifier, great content it was really entertaining
I got back into it because of Master Duel but never had a competitive deck to begin with so I got stuck at Plat 5 for mostly 2 years (Destiny Board) then Rescue-Ace got released and built a pure version of it without Snake-Eyes and managed to climb to Master 4. Mainly because of the artwork and mech theme, can't wait for the new Ancient Gears support and see how far I can go with it.
I don't quit because there's always a way to find joy, whether it's building a new deck, or trying other formats, and every so often they actually get a banlist right and the game becomes B far the most fun game in existence - just look at how great AGOV format was.
Despite feeling dissatisfied, disappointed, angered and worried over the current state of Yugioh, I've realized that feeling this way is quite reassuring, for if I don't feel anything for this game, I wouldn't care enough to give two hoots about the rough shape it's in.
I think most people here doesn't know the fact that why people still playing YuGiOh in 2024. And i will stop there because we all know why they played with the most unbearable playstyle without letting someone take their turn.
I’m teetering on the game. I have never gone to events and I don’t enjoy the tournaments. I’m more into yugioh with my 2 other friends that we use it to really just have fun.
We’ve made a format we like which is just Battle Royal and our turns take at most 2-3 minutes and our games last 2 hours. We’ve banned decks if the turn time takes longer than 3 minutes.
I played Yugioh to actually play Yugioh, not sit there for 10 minutes (feels like 30) watching someone make a board which makes me not able to do anything.
Yugioh is no longer a Casual Game made for fun like the Creator wanted. It’s a Competitive Nightmare created to just waste your time and make you feel dead inside
No matter what, I'm always keeping one eye on yugioh. I'll get frustrated but want it to be better. So I'll jump back into every now and then.
Oh no, he spoke the real truth. The truth truth, its not copium or whatever, its that despite everything people who play find ways to have fun in the game.
That is, at least the people who haven't quit. Guarantee those people will be FORMER players too in a few years.
Imagine telling your opponent to find a way to have fun after negating their ability to play the game. You might as well just literally set their deck on fire because they won't be playing the card game anyway. That's the truth.
For me, its the community aspect. Maybe not the bigger format and tournament scene, but the local level.
Yugioh has been what I do with my friends since 2003
Been playing on and off since Kaiba and Yugi starter decks. This game is great, not with out its faults, and I would love to see it continue to succeed. Which is why I feel the community base gets passionate when they feel like the game is not going in the right direction.
I initially got back into YuGiOh with Master Duel after almost 20 years away from the game.
I thought for sure I’d play for a month or two and fall off, but the game is just genuinely VERY fun to play, and there’s nothing else like it.
I love other card games but at its peak, YuGiOh just hits so hard.
I've sort of lost the fun aspect.
The way the ladder system works in Master Duel it's demotivating to rank up on a 8 win streak from Diamond I to Master IV, followed by a 4 win streak, and then immediately go 2nd 3 times in a row to leading to derank and lose out on 2hrs of the time it took to climb a rank in Master rank.
Yes the de-rank in Master Duel is bad. They need to remove de-rank.
@@joshuadansby2874 Yeah fun has to be earned through the gems of ranking up.
Then you can play whatever in Master 1 and Rated Duels without real consequence.
If only every rank up was a checkpoint essentially like DL17 in DC Cups.
I love picking a deck and running with it. I played Buster Blader for years and found many ways to make it successful. But it couldn’t keep up with most meta decks. I swapped to Branded Despia for a while, the endless recursion, being able to full combo, play under droll, play through an ash or effect Veiler and even Nibiru and end with 5 cards in my hand. I loved it. But I wanted something new. I went against Kashtira a few times playing Branded and they were fun matches. So I picked up Kashtira. Now I’m playing Kashtira, every week is deck building and throwing in gimmicky cards just because I love seeing my opponent’s face when throw them off with a card from 2005. Lmao. I’ve been splashing in Dino’s into Kashtira and while the Dino discord server tells me I’m crazy, I have successfully resolved Lost World and turned off my opponent’s targeting effects so I can play through Imperms and Effect Veiler. It’s been too much fun to stop. The deck building for me is the fun part. My deck is never the same deck from one month to the next. As the meta changes and as other decks change, I constantly adapt while I still work on my buster blader deck on the side. I take the experience from my better decks and slowly adjust my buster deck to one day go against the meta when it’s ready.
My unironic biggest problem is the combination of the fact that I want to be able to be a top player and have that actually mean something other than losing a ton of money and I can do that in EVERY other relevant TCG, but none are as fun. I firmly believe that if you live and breathe this game so much that you are a top ten or even top one hundred player in the world it shouldn't mean that it's actively costing you thousands of dollars each year. At least break even, preferably a minimum wage should be made for the top 100 and a decent payout for our top ten players.
Nostalgia and the hope that one's enabler won't hurt you as bad this time is what keeps people in.
6:45 I'm here for the vibes. It's nicer to hear the experiences and personal perspectives than a factual breakdown of the 999 reasons players are having battered wife syndrome.
Anyone can see the cracks clearly for themselves if they play.
Wow that small little mic is mad clear and loud. Where’s it from? The one I use is kinda meh
The real Yugioh is the complaints we made along the way
If we ignore the issues, we have no issues
Heart of the Cards my friends 🥲 (Celtic Guardian) 🗡💚
All I do is play master duel now. The format is much more diverse at the moment. The TCG on the other hand, I haven’t went to locals in a couple months
Yugioh is a blast!
From deck building to gameplay. Yes, the state of the game could be overwhelming, but the fantasy and strategy in the game is beyond satisfacting and rewarding. Nothing better than seeing my deck work as intended, win or lose... While feeling like an anime character willing extreme power😂 I went a bit over the top, but that's YGO at the end for me.
I love the archetypes system, and having the whole card pool available (outside ban list). Love the interaction as well!
@kylepowell9944 what's your favorite archetype or just archetypes list as I've got a few that come to mind as my own personal favorites!
The puking horse trend has been wild, of all the things for yugioh players to latch on to...
I think it's slowly becoming more apparent that we might be dealing with the TCG RnD & OCG RnD Offices, along with the corporate side of Yugioh being at odds. It's probably been this way since at least 2018. I believe the TCG team/NA offices are fully aware of the games issues and know what the right moves are, but are stuck between a wall and a hard place. Doing the impossible task of cleaning up the mess left by OCG card design with recent ban lists while juggling reprint equity and future support. While also being unable to make more expansive changes (like fixing the games product design/rarity system) due to the multi-headed hydra that must be navigating the games corporate bureaucracy.
I quit once and got dragged back in like ten years later. Probably won't quit outright again, but definitely will flow between playing the game with mates regularly and stretches of playing everything else so I don't get burnt out on Yugioh. With how hard it can be to get the cards you want/need to even make casual decks, on top of the insanity that is the meta and modern card design, I can see why people would be quitting the game these days though. It can be hard to imagine the game won't be further powercrept to the point of no return, especially when it at times feels like that has already come to pass, which also doesn't help with wanting to keep following the game.
I find that playing casually is probably the best to enjoy the game for most people these days. Especially if you play a wide variety of decks and don't really use the typical "you can't play now" meta strategies (a completely one sided game isn't a fun game).
>do all yugioh players have stockholm syndrome
>is it all sunk cost fallacy
>are we being held captive
yes x3
Yugioh is TCG ice cream. Waiting on resources is like eating your vegetables, but Yugioh skips straight to dessert. Ice cream for every meal, however, causes problems.
Also, sometimes your ice cream has roaches in it, people keep slapping it out of your hands, or you can't buy anything smaller than a 5-gallon container.
Yugioh always teases me with that fun thing you could do.
Honestly for example
The random blue eyes player or stubborn player on master duel playing a non meta deck keeps the game feeling fresh
I know they're old cards and such
I dont mind facing the meta new stuff but it can get a bit repetitive if you face the same deck over and over
I remember when I played Hearthstone and thought that Hearthstone, at its core, is a fun game. After years of playing fairly casually, I realized that I never really had fun with the metas and fighting against those decks, despite thinking I should like the game, so I quit. The memories are nice, but that's all that they are. I don't need to play the game to have access to those memories.
I play casual Yugioh n I still enjoy playing em’.
The only sad part bout it on my side of the bargain is that whenever i try to buy the cards or supplies i want from the store or online; it’s out of stock n unclear when it will restock come back thus idk how Yugioh stuff not showing up n sometimes i get nervous the stuff i order doesn’t show up at our house (thankfully sometimes i get my money back).
Ik it’s seems to be the end for most Yugioh players becuz either the fun is gone n moving on to other TCG card games until some hope Konami will shine again n regain their status.
OR maybe sometimes some tcg will not last forever but depending on how we all feel bout the Yugioh tcg n it’s kinda a “miss u” yugioh n it just isn’t there anymore.
Yugioh isn’t forgotten, it’s just not enjoyable enough.
Yu Gi Oh's awesome! I've denied myself the pleasure of playing my whole life until two weeks ago. I splurged and bought so many Booster Packs and Tins without reason or rhyme, but it was awesome. I'm looking at local shops to duel. I hope more people get into it. I don't think about what's meta. I'm having fun finding my own deck through dueling.
I’m a wave. Played it when I was a kid, stopped cause of hormones and selfish desires and making poor life choices and then making a friend at work and getting back into it. I go full fledged, get burnt out, take a break, go full again, get burnt out, rinse and repeat 😂 I loved it then and I love it now. I think everyone either finds things to or makes things up to complain about with nearly everything in life. Even when things are good lol we have a tendency to, with all the spare time we have not hunting and gathering, dwell on things that don’t need to be thought about as much as we think about them 😂 I’m guilty, work is bullshit lol but Yugioh is fun and I personally love how wild it’s gotten 😂
I personally hate when some decks like branded (my current main deck) get shitted on when other decks can do the same shit but worse. Or when you play against other decks that legit need a half hour to make a lame board unironically
Maybe we come back to yugioh because it is flawed. Every flaw is like a challenge which is fun to overcome. Like finding a personal way to enjoy the game, managing to finally learn what the cards do despite them being so long, learning to cope with long combos, etc.
i looked up the puking horse to see what you were talking about and it cracked me up ngl. absolutely ridiculous image.
I don't mind if you barf out a ton of monsters as long as you do it in your OWN turn.
Got a suggestion perhaps do an updated Yugioh 100 dollar starter guide
Havent plsyed yugioh in 10 years and haven't been happier. Konami truly runs their game like shit. I just enjoy seeing all the players in stockholm syndrome and make content because of it.
People who cant leave just have a addiction problem especially if their mad 99% of the time.
Everyone should practice walking away from each thing they indulge in for a week to make sure they are not addicted and that it is not harmful toward them.
I stopped playing yugioh I'm may. Definitely was an addiction at that point because I haven't felt the desire to play since. I'm upset because I finally got my whole Purrely deck tricked out with custom purrely mat, field center, tokens, and fun deck box only to never get to really use them.
I did like playing genuinely from like September through this past march, and April through May was cost sunk fallacy.
@@jeanpitre5789 Practicing the self control to walk away and come back is really healthy. I am currently not playing but plan to start again, just not sure when at the moment. I planned on saving up for a full Tempi dragon deck mostly copying the deck that won in EU, but it's hard to justify spending money on this game at all and they are other newer decks that seem to be a better investment so for now I am just waiting on the side lines thinking if I want to play or not. If my favorite archetype gets new support then I would be back playing trying to push a non-meta deck as far as it can go. I tend to take some time away from everything just to make sure I am not fooling myself into believing or thinking things that go against reality itself. The common one to give up for a week is all news to see how it affects the mind, where other things such as reading all of the 5 foot book shelf of classics tends to quickly become a month instead of just a week because that one book drags like sand paper because it is listed after Milton's and does not match his craft for writing. Yet, with that typed, the Harvard classics are really enjoyable once you get into reading them.
The reason we keep playing Yu-Gi-Oh, regardless of all our complaining, has nothing to do with Yu-Gi-Oh...
It's just human nature to complain, you see this in almost every game (especially mobile games) yet most peoples keep playing it.
Also, it seems like this is a business model atm: make bad descisions, let players complain and then make it player friendly to get the players goodwill back.
I was a yugioh player for 15 years, and decided to quit last year back in September. I recently picked up Magic the Gathering(commander) and can confirm its 100% better than yugioh after being loyal to the game for majority of my life. I've never looked back since, or even thought about picking yugioh back up
I’m arguably not a Yu-Gi-Oh player anymore. I stopped playing the TCG in like 2006 and tried Duel Links a couple years ago, but now my only interaction (pun intended) with the game is Speed Duel. I’d like to try Edison, but no one at my locals plays.
I first collected Pokemon cards in elementary school, but Yu-Gi-Oh was my first TCG and I had a lot of fun playing on the playground. That and the DM anime are the only reason I have any interest in the franchise at all.
I started playing Flesh & Blood, my first TCG since 2006, a year ago and am really loving it. I first got into it wanting to relive my Yu-Gi-Oh playground experience since the modern game is way beyond anything I have any interest in. After a couple months of FaB I realized I much preferred it to my playground experience or DL or SD, but Yu-Gi-Oh has a special place in my heart as my first card game that got me interested in them. Deckbuilding games are some of my favorites, and I attribute that to my early experience with Yu-Gi-Oh. Before I got into FaB when I would play a deckbuilder it let me relive my Yu-Gi-Oh days.
100%. Yu-Gi-Oh is a game. It's supposed to be fun. If you hate current meta, try just playing with friends with lower power decks or even a draft/cube. It is also totally fine to say Yu-Gi-Oh isn't what you want it to be and try a different game.
There's no game like yugioh, holds true even with rush duels
The lack of cost is absolutely infuriating to be on the wrong end of but when to benefit from it, it do be stupid fun but sadly that fun is extremely one sided. (Honestly it is possible even with maxx c on master duel, as much as it is arguably a problem card, so are all the effects that pop off like no tomorrow and wipe your opponents work clear from under them. Again fun if on "right" end of it really unfun to be on the wrong end of it.)
I think games with high power levels invite this kind of high salt behavior amongst those that play it because of how often you can win big in a fun way that might be at the detriment of your opponent's fun. You made a comparison between PTCG and YGO and I feel like it's a fun coincidence that it isn't uncommon to find similar complaints in reference to the differences between fighting games like Street Fighter and fighting games like Marvel or Guilty Gear.
I think punishing losses can get to us all no matter how familiar we are with them, but when balanced out with the uncomparable rush you get from winning in these types of games you get something like a gambler's high that can keep people coming back
I have been taking a break from modern yugi and playing Edison/One Piece and I do really like those a lot but mermail is my favorite deck of all time and the new support is going to make me play again lol
It's hard to quit yugioh forever because at the end of the day, the game is still unique in a way that no other card game has come close to replicating. Virtually every major TCG in existence even TO THIS DAY has a resource system of some type, usually a direct clone of the mana system from MtG, some directly like Pokemon's energies, or One Piece's Don cards, or Lorcana's ink system, or indirectly, such as Digimon's memory, Weiss Schwartz level system, or Flesh and Blood's Energy system which are creative resource systems comparatively but STILL a resource system. The fact Yugioh has NO limiting resource system means games are not restrained by your resources but your hand. This was never "fair" so to speak and that was the point! Your opponent got to play 3 monsters, 2 spells, and set 2 traps before passing turn and all you had was a normal summon? Tough shit! Deckbuild better so you too could go buckwild in a match.
It was designed to be a power fantasy game, which was always reflective by the large numbers of stats and lifepoints Yugioh has compared to all other games. Also it made deck building your SOLE limiting factor, which to many felt great. You couldnt blame a match loss on not being able to draw/acculate/use enough resource to fully utilize your hand, which had the win if you just had a bit more resource. You lost because your deck ratios wasn't as good as your opponent's, because your only limiting factor WAS your one normal summon (which hasn't been a limit since 2008). That, combined with the infinite format with no rotations lead to deck building possibilities other games could never achieve, and that all feels fulfilling.
However, these aspects which made is wonderful would inevitably become its downfall, as power creep became so rapid and unchecked that the power fantasy isn't a hopeful end goal, its an expected turn one result, with the game now shifting to preventing your opponent from fully achieving the power fantasy to play, and thats less fun.
Still, conceptually Yugioh will remain a GOAT, at least until another game can mimic what it does well mechanically while removing how age has made it less enjoyable. Until then, we have to love it, because nothing feels quite as good as activating your trap card, or summoning your boss monster to swing for game. As much as i love lorcana, questing for my 20th lore to win the match will NEVER feel as satisfying as declaring my Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon to obliterate my opponent's remainjng lifepoints!
its all fun until 3 people in the Master Duel Fusion Festival resolve Albion to brick me with a Ra's Disciple in 2024 at the start of the match and then proceeds to synchro spam in a fusion event
Fun is very subjective. If you enjoy sometimes being the one whos able to play solitaire and stop your oppnent from playing at all (The bully) then yeah modern yugioh can be fun. If you want a balanced experience that is accesible and easy to get into then it will be miserable. This is why yugioh isn't gaining players. Imagine beling able to play your game, and not be solitaired at only to be hand trapped as soon as you think its your turn. Thats what yugioh has become, you could be at the top of your game at the championship and not even get to play if you draw bad...
I love this game but NOT how it is but how I play it. I don’t play in any competitive scene. I collect, build decks, and play with my son. All of my decks are designed to be as fair and as pure as possible. So, I’ve quit the game that Konami has ruined but keep playing the one that I wish it would be.
I think the game is in a really poor state right now, and in general, I don't agree with how Konami handles a great deal of their card design. But I think at its core, yugioh is a fantastically complicated and rewarding game, which at least keeps me around. I also think that we've had some really great formats, even in recent memory. Late 2023 format was incredible, and I think a diverse format like that is still possible to attain.
Stockholm 😂,
Paul there's so many competitive players coping it's wild, I really wish they would sell this game to another company.
Fr pretty much any other company would handle this game better than Konami
What keeps me in the game is artwork and suprisingly good TCG Support ( war rocks).
The game was fun, is fun outside of its locals but as far as it goes it’s dying because nothing is being challenged or changed. Thank god Pokemon, digimon & one piece exists
For me since I mainly play dark magician and blue eyes I’ve come to accept there’s a ceiling on how far I will get in ranked master duel. I used to be so angry going against the meta decks but now i just play my game and i find myself dealing with it a lot better now. At the end of the day it’s just a game and there’s no need to allow it to break my spirit.
With that being said i still hate kashtira and utopia, those players did me so dirty I’ll never forgive them. 😂😂
I just love Blue-Eyes and Dark Magician, and since they keep supporting them as the poster child for the game, that is pretty much the only thing that keeps me playing. Anime archetypes are pretty much the only thing that keeps me playing, and I only really watched DM and some GX and 5Ds, with Duel Links being my introduction to the rest of the anime, which severely limits my interest in the game. The problem with the game is it has become prevent the opponent from playing, because the newest decks do way too much, instead of actually playing the game. Table 500 is where I enjoy the game, but I don't know anyone that still plays. So, I don't have an easy way to get those experiences, since Master Duel and Duel Links, well really the TCG too, all revolve around competitive, which isn't fun to me.
No reason to get tilted every game, you can just go next. I’m not stuck in a 40 min+ losing game like league so I guess I appreciate yugioh more.
It is the most fun TCG everything else feels slow. I just want 2 things, I want traps to be good cards again(that would literally solve the main complaint I didnt get a turn to play) and I want good zombie cards. Gosh i miss Card of Safe Return zombies and Zombie Synchro so much.
I love what you can do in Yugioh and *I hate what you can do in Yugioh*
People just quickly get used to things and seldom change them. Its like the people that play the same late 90s early 2000s video game to this day sometimes through remasters and sometimes just og and they tend to look over the glaring issues new players might notice cuz theyre so used to them and get defensive when someone gives any critique.
I dont think this is necessarily bad finding your own thing that you like it can be very good especially if you connect with people and make friends through it that also make you wanna stick around. But it feels like this type of person never tries anything new and never actually puts the same amount of heart into new hobbies/games. And so they tend to stick to what they know they like and works for them. Simply cuz they dont know any other good experiences.
I honestly have never come close to hating Yu-Gi-Oh, I love the game. There have been some formats that haven't been to my liking in which I took breaks, but even then I remained in touch with it.
What I do hate is Konami of America, they are absolutely the problem. I don't care if they are nice people who love the game; if their contributions are worse quality, horrible sets, stores dropping Yu-Gi-Oh, artificial scarcity and inaccessible staples, then they are a net negative for the game, and not a small one.
To put simply, we play it because we're stupid. There's no real way around it. Im only talking about competitive players though. Anyone else playing fun formats or casually are just enjoying themselves. I watch players in ranked MD literally raging because they lost to Maxx C, SE etc etc, TCG players crying about events and yet still claiming to go out to lose more money.
I mean no body wants to quit their main TCG. It’s their comfort food but Konami makes it so people don’t like the game anymore but don’t want to quit, they just want it fixed
I think you meant bad Paul
Its fun because you win and the other guy loses, NOT BECAUSE THE GAMEPLAY IS FUN!
Hey paul, i shall be honest as can be, i’ve got autism and a hyper focus on yugioh, sadly don’t play events, just with friends once in a while.
I buy a few packs when i can, since it’s fun for me.
I’ve got 19 decks, with only one of them that’s a bit meta-ish (branded/despia)
And the other 18 are just horribly bad, but i made them for fun and trying to summon a hard to summon monster in the original way, like gate guardian in my gate guardian deck.
I’m just enjoy the game really casually as can, since i’m far from being a good duelist.
But i won’t have it any other way, since yugioh has been with me for a huge part of my life.
And if, in the future, konami decides to stop with yugioh, that would be my biggest disappointment in life
Thank you for this curious and wondering video!
Greetings fromout the netherlands~