So apparently the spirits thing is used to clean wounds,basically like rubbing alcohol , so ,maybe she had already been dead around the time they had the fight, when he saw her not responding she was already deceased maybe he didn't realize it, but it is dark how he told the younger sister she wanted to reconcile. Think about it maybe, they stayed in the house for so long they get used to smells so nothing smells off. I honestly think the family believed in her vision and didn't question her genius intellect.
I agree, I already watched the story on Mr. Ballen channel and I didn't know if I would want to sit through it again, but this reaction made it more entertaining.
Mental illness has resulted in all kinds of fantasies and delusions. Not that much of a stretch to believe they believed she was still alive. The fact they dropped their whole lives just to dedicate to their sister makes them sound like they weren't all there.
I would agree but at least with Takahero, he definitely knew she was dead, because he lied to her and said she wanted to reconcile. He came up with that not because she told him that but so he could avoid the issues that came with her death
Maybe the sister felt that her genius / visionary soul was so profound that it needed to preserved for the ages to come so the best way to do that was to mummify herself literally and I believe that she must've kept written instructions for the brother someplace and the next phases in the " masterwork" would be for the entire family to actually turn that room into an Egyptian like tomb and build sercohpagus to put her perfectly preserved corpse of the mummified sister in and actually start worshipping her as an artist deity of some sort.
Idk she probably was possessed and became supernatural or something that whatever was in control of Rina, she wasn't herself anymore and took control of the whole family
This was a wild story. I knew something was definitely off when the brother mysteriously took over and they started rubbing her down with the alcohol. I thought he killed her at first and he just went crazy, pretending she was still alive
This is a story that has me dumbfounded. Like the family was under a spell, and they couldn't stand up for themselves. Her big project was her own death. This is wild. Almost like none of it makes any sense.
This whole story is insane no normal person is just dedicating there lives just to one person like that its all extremely strange…So i do believe none of them were really mentally there
Your comments were hilarious, something to consider is the cultural aspect (Japanese culture, you don't raise waves, you conform, keeping the peace among family and society is the most important) and the family had a kind of Stockholm syndrome, wasn't the brother very young when the older sister came back, seniority is very important in the culture and she knew that she could brainwash her brother to carry out her will. They were not charged because there is no point, they didn't have the intent to harm her and didn't have the mental capacity to see reality. Forced mental help is only available when they are a danger to others or to themselves, and they are not looking at these known specific circumstances.
It definitely reminds me of the concepts of "folie à deux" and mass hysteria: you're in an isolated environment with an individual that suffers from severe mental illness, and in trying to accommodate them, you begin to buy their delusions. What's kind of glossed over in the MrBallen's video is that about twenty years elapsed between her coming back from Cambridge and all of this, so that's two decades of progressive mental health deterioration. It was gradual, sneaky, and dragged the whole family into it.
I think the only part that makes sense to me is the fact that they were all mentally ill, from the mother who played no part in her childrens' lives, to the two brothers who just sacrificed their dreams, social life and basically everything, to cater for their youngest sister, who from the get go was far gone. Supporting your family member to succeed is one thing and being locked up in a house with nothing but a belief in a master work that you don't even know its nature is another, and for decades is just too much. It was not even one year or two. They all cannot stand trial, but one thing for sure they should not be able to live normally among society, there's no way you live through something like this and come out of it normal.
There is a possibility the smell wouldn’t have been throughout the house maybe due to the spirits I guess . We had a soldier die and had to take turns standing guard outside the door and it was bad but not too crazy
Jeez as crazy as it may sound I’ve always wanted to get a whiff of decomposition. My aunt was a police officer and she told me that it’s a smell you never forget. I’m probably insane for wanting to experience it lmaooo but I think my curiosity comes from hearing all these wild stories.
Very late comment because I couldn’t get past the hilarious yet accurate comments from the both of you. 😂 I’m not even to the part where it gets morbid. Also been doing chores in between watching. I have deleted way earlier comments because I get all self conscious.
Getting help won't really matter because their mental disorder prevents them from realizing their family member is dead like their awareness on that particular information was blocked, therefore they can't be sent to asylum because they are not crazy, and they didn't need specialist help because acceptance wasn't an option for them as they believe she is still alive and well. They are trapped in their reality of she is alive and kicking, so no matter what you tell them about it they either ignore you or feeling annoy/upset about it.
Yep, a lot of stories like this definitely be having me thinking "shid, this probably not really what happened, who knows?" lol...And I hear y'all at the end brainstorming. That surgical spirits could have definitely been used as an attempt to keep the dead body odor down. Good thinking!
I knew she probably had mental health issues but it was never really discussed, I am not sure but she was losing weight and the mention of only the soul makes me think she needed to sacrifice her body to make this art come to life or something. maybe Rena had Persecutory delusions or paranoid schizophrenia, paranoia psychosis , or something.
You guys forgot the fact that for 5 plus years the sister and brother didn’t look or talk to there sister when they entered the room. So the sister never looked up at her and they never said a word to eachother in the room for more than 5 years
I have a feeling something spiritual or a possible evil spirit possession became attached to Rina and turn her into an abnormal person that forces and comands her own family into believing that shes doing a masterpiece when in reality she's most likely doing some Evil Spirit type sht. Idk man i feel like she was possessed or something and whatever took her over, made her become some kind of supernatural being and her family basically became her slaves or minions and made rules for people to follow that most of them lost their potential for their future and all focus on Rina. And made the family become weird by hiding themselves from society that they be avoiding conversation and avoiding from being seen cause they be hiding their faces....like wtf kind of Cult type sht was going on
So apparently the spirits thing is used to clean wounds,basically like rubbing alcohol , so ,maybe she had already been dead around the time they had the fight, when he saw her not responding she was already deceased maybe he didn't realize it, but it is dark how he told the younger sister she wanted to reconcile. Think about it maybe, they stayed in the house for so long they get used to smells so nothing smells off. I honestly think the family believed in her vision and didn't question her genius intellect.
This was one of the most bizarre stories I've ever heard. I loved watching both of you trying to figure out what was going on.
I agree, I already watched the story on Mr. Ballen channel and I didn't know if I would want to sit through it again, but this reaction made it more entertaining.
Mental illness has resulted in all kinds of fantasies and delusions. Not that much of a stretch to believe they believed she was still alive. The fact they dropped their whole lives just to dedicate to their sister makes them sound like they weren't all there.
I would agree but at least with Takahero, he definitely knew she was dead, because he lied to her and said she wanted to reconcile. He came up with that not because she told him that but so he could avoid the issues that came with her death
Or something cultish and spiritual or supernatural
@@anthonysalinas-candelero9978 Please, these are five stages of grief and mental illness prevents them from passing the first stage of grief, denial.
That's kind of my hang-up too
Maybe the sister felt that her genius / visionary soul was so profound that it needed to preserved for the ages to come so the best way to do that was to mummify herself literally and I believe that she must've kept written instructions for the brother someplace and the next phases in the " masterwork" would be for the entire family to actually turn that room into an Egyptian like tomb and build sercohpagus to put her perfectly preserved corpse of the mummified sister in and actually start worshipping her as an artist deity of some sort.
I could totataly see that also being the case
Idk she probably was possessed and became supernatural or something that whatever was in control of Rina, she wasn't herself anymore and took control of the whole family
@@anthonysalinas-candelero9978💀 What kinda drugs are you smoking?
This was a wild story. I knew something was definitely off when the brother mysteriously took over and they started rubbing her down with the alcohol. I thought he killed her at first and he just went crazy, pretending she was still alive
Pretty much where my brain went, but I also thought it could be something else.
This is a story that has me dumbfounded. Like the family was under a spell, and they couldn't stand up for themselves. Her big project was her own death. This is wild. Almost like none of it makes any sense.
When the time is right was basicly when she drove her entire family just as crazy as she was. This is so sad.
This whole story is insane no normal person is just dedicating there lives just to one person like that its all extremely strange…So i do believe none of them were really mentally there
Your comments were hilarious, something to consider is the cultural aspect (Japanese culture, you don't raise waves, you conform, keeping the peace among family and society is the most important) and the family had a kind of Stockholm syndrome, wasn't the brother very young when the older sister came back, seniority is very important in the culture and she knew that she could brainwash her brother to carry out her will. They were not charged because there is no point, they didn't have the intent to harm her and didn't have the mental capacity to see reality. Forced mental help is only available when they are a danger to others or to themselves, and they are not looking at these known specific circumstances.
It definitely reminds me of the concepts of "folie à deux" and mass hysteria: you're in an isolated environment with an individual that suffers from severe mental illness, and in trying to accommodate them, you begin to buy their delusions. What's kind of glossed over in the MrBallen's video is that about twenty years elapsed between her coming back from Cambridge and all of this, so that's two decades of progressive mental health deterioration. It was gradual, sneaky, and dragged the whole family into it.
that's why I said that the younger brother was a very young when it started, he became the perfect tool@@thomas5054
The brother was older than Rina
I think the only part that makes sense to me is the fact that they were all mentally ill, from the mother who played no part in her childrens' lives, to the two brothers who just sacrificed their dreams, social life and basically everything, to cater for their youngest sister, who from the get go was far gone. Supporting your family member to succeed is one thing and being locked up in a house with nothing but a belief in a master work that you don't even know its nature is another, and for decades is just too much. It was not even one year or two. They all cannot stand trial, but one thing for sure they should not be able to live normally among society, there's no way you live through something like this and come out of it normal.
There’s a fine line between genius and madness
There is a possibility the smell wouldn’t have been throughout the house maybe due to the spirits I guess . We had a soldier die and had to take turns standing guard outside the door and it was bad but not too crazy
Jeez as crazy as it may sound I’ve always wanted to get a whiff of decomposition. My aunt was a police officer and she told me that it’s a smell you never forget. I’m probably insane for wanting to experience it lmaooo but I think my curiosity comes from hearing all these wild stories.
@@73aven i promise you don’t lol but I won’t stop you and definitely no judgment
Rima couldn’t have done this in a black household lmao
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Very late comment because I couldn’t get past the hilarious yet accurate comments from the both of you. 😂 I’m not even to the part where it gets morbid. Also been doing chores in between watching. I have deleted way earlier comments because I get all self conscious.
Getting help won't really matter because their mental disorder prevents them from realizing their family member is dead like their awareness on that particular information was blocked, therefore they can't be sent to asylum because they are not crazy, and they didn't need specialist help because acceptance wasn't an option for them as they believe she is still alive and well. They are trapped in their reality of she is alive and kicking, so no matter what you tell them about it they either ignore you or feeling annoy/upset about it.
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Yep, a lot of stories like this definitely be having me thinking "shid, this probably not really what happened, who knows?" lol...And I hear y'all at the end brainstorming. That surgical spirits could have definitely been used as an attempt to keep the dead body odor down. Good thinking!
I knew she probably had mental health issues but it was never really discussed, I am not sure but she was losing weight and the mention of only the soul makes me think she needed to sacrifice her body to make this art come to life or something.
maybe Rena had Persecutory delusions or paranoid schizophrenia, paranoia psychosis , or something.
You guys forgot the fact that for 5 plus years the sister and brother didn’t look or talk to there sister when they entered the room. So the sister never looked up at her and they never said a word to eachother in the room for more than 5 years
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Her masterpiece was driving her family insane.
Even MrBallen laugh at his own ridiculous action to Like Button. 2:20
I’m working in healtcare and a dead body starts to smell after a few hours, imagine the smell after a few weeks, dang
I have a feeling something spiritual or a possible evil spirit possession became attached to Rina and turn her into an abnormal person that forces and comands her own family into believing that shes doing a masterpiece when in reality she's most likely doing some Evil Spirit type sht. Idk man i feel like she was possessed or something and whatever took her over, made her become some kind of supernatural being and her family basically became her slaves or minions and made rules for people to follow that most of them lost their potential for their future and all focus on Rina. And made the family become weird by hiding themselves from society that they be avoiding conversation and avoiding from being seen cause they be hiding their faces....like wtf kind of Cult type sht was going on
I think it's possible that they starved her and used the alcohol to cover up the smell. Then again, maybe not.
i would blame the family
starting with the parents
this was... somethin
Wild story.
Renia girl bye lol but yea this case was wild
Maybe the alcohol affected the smell
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