I see many people yapping in the comments before I watched the video. I want you to think and really try to think before you just comment idiotic things. Z2 opened up only two kingdoms to fight and that fight ended pretty quickly but it cost both sides to use some resources. Meanwhile NOIR and EIS get more time to just merit trade and farm freely while TFS has to deal with BxS randomly pushing from time to time. Then the next zone opens up and TFS gets a little break from the little pushes. Fastfoward a bit, now the real war starts. No offense to NOIR and maybe they were holding back till the end but if you watched the battles NOIR was not sending as many people to help TFS compared to the amount EIS sent to help BxS. TFS was CONSTANTLY getting drained by two very powerful kingdoms the entire fight for hours on end. EIS was pushing in waves they were not constantly fighting back to back to back at a pass they needed to defend. So they were not drained as much as TFS and BxS. Now when NOIR finally reached the pass we saw a different side of NOIR, this version was the full power of NOIR and not those baby pushes. However, if you were expecting TFS to do the same thing when they were constantly getting sandwiched for HOURS on end you're smoking something.
and Im not discrediting NOIR at all but you can watch videos and compare the pushes yourself. Sometimes they would try to staff like EIS did and it didnt work.
I agree eis did a lot more to their ally bxs than noir to tfs. But u need to consider the map which eis has the advantage so noir really have no choice. At the end of they day props to tfs holding that ground manage to and also to bxs for putting a good fight
EIS was a side dish. Calling TFS wet noodles when we never tryed to fight EIS until last day. Our steak was BxS and all of our forces where there. 30h after gate open EIS was still at the gate fighting 10 wet noodles making no progress while NOIR was walking free on the other side of the map. Thats why you lost the z3 war, NOIR progressed a lot faster. TFS was not even focusing EIS front line and it took them 70h to get close and by the time it was already over for BxS. BxS got weak allies, they holded, but EIS was to slow.
@@MyError.Notfound the steak would be EIS when BxS is 4th out of everyone. Replace that- filet mignon and lobster. But you couldn’t do it without NOIR.
@@MyError.NotfoundEIS got to TFS before noir got to BxS. The only reason they lost was because BxS couldn’t last due to them being the weakest and least active server in the merge. Noir hard carried TFS the last day. Why do you think noir attacked EIS the whole time. TFS was sitting on the side burner while noir took the brute of the attack. TFS was drained by BxS alone, lucky that noir kept flanking or you might’ve never broke that pass.
@@SabrinaCloverTequila The same could be sayed about EIS. EIS is really close to NOIR. EIS probably had better chance of wining a z3 war against NOIR. Over chasing down TFS to end up in a 1v2 situation that was highly unfavored for them. You called TFS wet noodles, meanwhile EIS is an alliance that spent all season running from NOIR, no z2 fight, no statue fight, run from a z3 fight against noir on the other side of the map. Always dodging NOIR... BxS is the true fighting alliance, never run from a challenge, from a battle, from a statue. Meanwhile a soon as things start to go bad for EIS they run away.. Once NOIR catch up on TFS side, fight toke what? 3-4 hours? before EIS all left... Meanwhile you have BxS with less power that fought both TFS and NOIR for days... Its ridiculous... End of the day it doesn’t fill like EIS even trying to be 1st, they just trying to not be last and avoid NOIR all the time. EIS looking at NOIR like its impossible to beat and run away from them. Look at BxS vs TFS kingdom z2 fight. BxS main alliance had 3B more power than TFS. Both TFS and EIS got another alliance in Kingdom with good power and activity. And EIS is behind NOIR in power how much? 4B?. EIS probably could had a similar z2 fight against NOIR like TFS had against BxS. But for some reason EIS never fights. Not even statue, where it is more favor for EIS to win, since numbers are more important than power.
It was a good KvK to watch. But I'm sure it would have been a lot more entertaining if NOIR wouldn't have allied with TFS. We all knew what the final result was going to be, it was just a matter of time. I know diplo is not always about making a balanced KvK, but other things like history and frienship weigh in. But I think having a balanced KvK should always be a priority if you want everybody to have more fun. Please stop calling this a NAP, it's a little embarrassing. NOIR and TFS played as straight allies, that included attack and defense coordination. The only peculiarity is that they may arrange a final fight for the dragon.
Yeah if noir didn’t help tfs bxs and eis would have won the season there is no way noir would beat 4 alliances i don’t care how strong an alliance is 4v1 would never win
So many people compare TFS/AFS with EIS/EIL and say TFS/AFS is not active, wet-noodle,... which is not fair as the two kingdoms are in 2 different situations. When EIS and NOIR reach near TFS/AFS pass, TFS/AFS have been fighting for 72+ hours attacking and defending wave of enemies. We are burn out in-real-life and in-game, so all we do is support NOIR as much as we can as.
@@caden4017 Huh? Aren't Noir and tfs allied, so zone 5 will be a friendly war? Hmm it seems like there is no tension in zone 5, Noir will win very easily against tfs
Nobody in this cluster is able to fight on 2 fronts against any of the kingdoms present in here. The power gap isn't big enough. Calling any one of the kingdoms weak isn't fair. That said, strategy and timing played a huge role in making things workout the way it did. EIS leadership had bad planning and player attitude when it came to playing the game the right way. They choose easy wins and easy fights in their past and it's evident that it's become a systemic problem within their kingdom. One key factor in contributing to this loss for them is that they chose to dodge Noir and let us have free ability to accumulate resources and rewards the entire season. Half the entire map belongs to us thanks to EIS. This will do very well in not only helping Noir win this season but also the NEXT season. EIS has really allowed Noir to flourish unchecked due to their leader Dark's cowardice. If we fight BDO next season and win, I will remember to thank EIS for dodging us.
S2 - EIS was vs entire servers like 5 alliance. We did not ally anyone SB01 - EIS/OG vs SK/VvV where we z1 dropped against VvV and Trib and won ST01 - EIS/BXS vs TFS/EXG idk how this can be classified as choosing an easy win SB02 - EIS vs ROE/NTS which EIS lost. If you say DAWN and FGHT were our allies, we could only meet them on z5 which didnt happen Tell me which season was easy win for EIS
Littlericeboi is correct, and it goes beyond this. Some call it cowardice, some call it deliberately dodging NOIR to make them bored; either way it was a really poor decisions and I can explain why. NOIR was able to cut EIS Territory in their own Z3, causing them to eventually be sent back to Z1 due to poor planning. Now why is that due to poor decisions from EIS? Well this whole season has revolved around EIS and BXS choosing to 2v1 TFS, leaving NOIR free to go wild on the map. Many will criticse NOIR for taking the decision of 'allying TFS', but for starters EIS is clearly equal if not arguably better than TFS. Secondly, EIS and BxS choice to 2v1 TFS forced NOIR to also converge on BXS and support TFS. Had EIS not been cowards, and fought NOIR in z3/defended their own gate, they wouldn't have been locked out. "NOIR this" and "NOIR that" is a masterclass from EIS to cover their own fatal mistakes
lets hope next kvk they fight the whole merge like 1960 did in ROK according to gunz they relentless fighters time to find out, but im guessing it will be another NAP with another big kingdom to secure the dragon
I see many people yapping in the comments before I watched the video. I want you to think and really try to think before you just comment idiotic things.
Z2 opened up only two kingdoms to fight and that fight ended pretty quickly but it cost both sides to use some resources. Meanwhile NOIR and EIS get more time to just merit trade and farm freely while TFS has to deal with BxS randomly pushing from time to time. Then the next zone opens up and TFS gets a little break from the little pushes. Fastfoward a bit, now the real war starts.
No offense to NOIR and maybe they were holding back till the end but if you watched the battles NOIR was not sending as many people to help TFS compared to the amount EIS sent to help BxS. TFS was CONSTANTLY getting drained by two very powerful kingdoms the entire fight for hours on end. EIS was pushing in waves they were not constantly fighting back to back to back at a pass they needed to defend. So they were not drained as much as TFS and BxS.
Now when NOIR finally reached the pass we saw a different side of NOIR, this version was the full power of NOIR and not those baby pushes. However, if you were expecting TFS to do the same thing when they were constantly getting sandwiched for HOURS on end you're smoking something.
and Im not discrediting NOIR at all but you can watch videos and compare the pushes yourself. Sometimes they would try to staff like EIS did and it didnt work.
I agree eis did a lot more to their ally bxs than noir to tfs. But u need to consider the map which eis has the advantage so noir really have no choice. At the end of they day props to tfs holding that ground manage to and also to bxs for putting a good fight
Piss is a great guy gg to everyone in this kvk u guys were awesome ❤
Pissboi best warlord
Thanks for the video meower, GG bro
GGs NOIR/TFS!
And you’re right 18:30 TFS could have slowed EIS down but it’s all new players. Fighting TFS was like wet noodles compared to NOIR.
EIS was a side dish. Calling TFS wet noodles when we never tryed to fight EIS until last day. Our steak was BxS and all of our forces where there. 30h after gate open EIS was still at the gate fighting 10 wet noodles making no progress while NOIR was walking free on the other side of the map. Thats why you lost the z3 war, NOIR progressed a lot faster. TFS was not even focusing EIS front line and it took them 70h to get close and by the time it was already over for BxS. BxS got weak allies, they holded, but EIS was to slow.
@@MyError.Notfound the steak would be EIS when BxS is 4th out of everyone. Replace that- filet mignon and lobster. But you couldn’t do it without NOIR.
@@MyError.NotfoundEIS got to TFS before noir got to BxS. The only reason they lost was because BxS couldn’t last due to them being the weakest and least active server in the merge. Noir hard carried TFS the last day. Why do you think noir attacked EIS the whole time. TFS was sitting on the side burner while noir took the brute of the attack. TFS was drained by BxS alone, lucky that noir kept flanking or you might’ve never broke that pass.
@@SabrinaCloverTequila The same could be sayed about EIS. EIS is really close to NOIR. EIS probably had better chance of wining a z3 war against NOIR. Over chasing down TFS to end up in a 1v2 situation that was highly unfavored for them. You called TFS wet noodles, meanwhile EIS is an alliance that spent all season running from NOIR, no z2 fight, no statue fight, run from a z3 fight against noir on the other side of the map. Always dodging NOIR... BxS is the true fighting alliance, never run from a challenge, from a battle, from a statue. Meanwhile a soon as things start to go bad for EIS they run away.. Once NOIR catch up on TFS side, fight toke what? 3-4 hours? before EIS all left... Meanwhile you have BxS with less power that fought both TFS and NOIR for days... Its ridiculous...
End of the day it doesn’t fill like EIS even trying to be 1st, they just trying to not be last and avoid NOIR all the time. EIS looking at NOIR like its impossible to beat and run away from them. Look at BxS vs TFS kingdom z2 fight. BxS main alliance had 3B more power than TFS. Both TFS and EIS got another alliance in Kingdom with good power and activity. And EIS is behind NOIR in power how much? 4B?. EIS probably could had a similar z2 fight against NOIR like TFS had against BxS. But for some reason EIS never fights. Not even statue, where it is more favor for EIS to win, since numbers are more important than power.
@@MyError.Notfound Logically you already knew before typing this out that this plan would make zero sense.
It was a good KvK to watch. But I'm sure it would have been a lot more entertaining if NOIR wouldn't have allied with TFS. We all knew what the final result was going to be, it was just a matter of time.
I know diplo is not always about making a balanced KvK, but other things like history and frienship weigh in. But I think having a balanced KvK should always be a priority if you want everybody to have more fun.
Please stop calling this a NAP, it's a little embarrassing. NOIR and TFS played as straight allies, that included attack and defense coordination. The only peculiarity is that they may arrange a final fight for the dragon.
Yeah if noir didn’t help tfs bxs and eis would have won the season there is no way noir would beat 4 alliances i don’t care how strong an alliance is 4v1 would never win
NOIR on top. There’s only first place. NOIR made a power move making TFS their puppets. GG
True haha.. 1st place baby~ NOIR ON TOP!
So many people compare TFS/AFS with EIS/EIL and say TFS/AFS is not active, wet-noodle,... which is not fair as the two kingdoms are in 2 different situations. When EIS and NOIR reach near TFS/AFS pass, TFS/AFS have been fighting for 72+ hours attacking and defending wave of enemies. We are burn out in-real-life and in-game, so all we do is support NOIR as much as we can as.
Eis had their territory removed by no2 with 7 people while TFS was fighting eis and bxs, people giving eis too much credit imo.
@@Kp77-f8ydid you watch vid? Because noir r4 clearly mentioned they moved to their shell to cut eis territory xD
What do you mean by "without banishment" you wouldn't been able to do anything about it?
What is this weird music
Playing lineage 2 or lord of the rings at the alt tab 😂
@@Snotra24 yeah
Will zone 5 have a big war part 2? eis, bx vs Noir, tfs
No EIS and BxS are out of final zone and it’ll be noir vs TFS for dragon
NOIR vs TFS will be a slaughter tbh. Z5 will be determined really fast and NOIR will crush TFS and win the season.
@@caden4017 Huh? Aren't Noir and tfs allied, so zone 5 will be a friendly war? Hmm it seems like there is no tension in zone 5, Noir will win very easily against tfs
@@joncedric2104 Yes bro even 30% of Noir's power can beat current tfs
@SweattyF2P They're not Ally? Then why did Noir help tfs at gate 4? What I watched on streaming
music volume could be a little lower.
Long marches and fight for like 5d its rly boring ( in my opinion ) i expected more in this kvk ! but whatever !
Don't tell em. Let them enjoy being known as the biggest KvK for no good reason haha
@@sophophobia8841 oh i forgot from that 5d, 1d was Building simulator for the fight! If thats not boring then what is?!!!!
Nobody in this cluster is able to fight on 2 fronts against any of the kingdoms present in here. The power gap isn't big enough. Calling any one of the kingdoms weak isn't fair.
That said, strategy and timing played a huge role in making things workout the way it did. EIS leadership had bad planning and player attitude when it came to playing the game the right way. They choose easy wins and easy fights in their past and it's evident that it's become a systemic problem within their kingdom.
One key factor in contributing to this loss for them is that they chose to dodge Noir and let us have free ability to accumulate resources and rewards the entire season. Half the entire map belongs to us thanks to EIS. This will do very well in not only helping Noir win this season but also the NEXT season. EIS has really allowed Noir to flourish unchecked due to their leader Dark's cowardice.
If we fight BDO next season and win, I will remember to thank EIS for dodging us.
S2 - EIS was vs entire servers like 5 alliance. We did not ally anyone
SB01 - EIS/OG vs SK/VvV where we z1 dropped against VvV and Trib and won
ST01 - EIS/BXS vs TFS/EXG idk how this can be classified as choosing an easy win
SB02 - EIS vs ROE/NTS which EIS lost. If you say DAWN and FGHT were our allies, we could only meet them on z5 which didnt happen
Tell me which season was easy win for EIS
Littlericeboi is correct, and it goes beyond this. Some call it cowardice, some call it deliberately dodging NOIR to make them bored; either way it was a really poor decisions and I can explain why.
NOIR was able to cut EIS Territory in their own Z3, causing them to eventually be sent back to Z1 due to poor planning.
Now why is that due to poor decisions from EIS? Well this whole season has revolved around EIS and BXS choosing to 2v1 TFS, leaving NOIR free to go wild on the map.
Many will criticse NOIR for taking the decision of 'allying TFS', but for starters EIS is clearly equal if not arguably better than TFS. Secondly, EIS and BxS choice to 2v1 TFS forced NOIR to also converge on BXS and support TFS.
Had EIS not been cowards, and fought NOIR in z3/defended their own gate, they wouldn't have been locked out. "NOIR this" and "NOIR that" is a masterclass from EIS to cover their own fatal mistakes
saying that eis chose easy wins in the past is soooo wrong its insane, look at strafer's comment
Its boring for Noir players to fight less than 10 days per season and most of that is building😢
lets hope next kvk they fight the whole merge like 1960 did in ROK according to gunz they relentless fighters time to find out, but im guessing it will be another NAP with another big kingdom to secure the dragon
🎉@@TuneImmortal they can't as EIS /TFS /BxS are almost equal, 1v3 can't be possible
The game is total garbage, why do people still play? addiction?
I'm first 😎