@@Stopbeingrudetome It's kind of weird how many fans are ok with FVV leaving for nothing, PS leaving for scraps, Leonard leaving for nothing, Serge Ibaka, Danny Green nothing, Klow for scraps, Marc Gasol nothing, than combine it with some mediocre to poor drafts and being satisfied cause we got Barnes and hailing management. Perhaps after 13 years we need a new vision? Not saying we do but if it's another tank job this year it's time to talk about it seriously.
@@The2ndavepete Maybe we do, but not for any reason you stated? Marc and Ibaka we had nothing we could do. Should we have traded them during the chip year or something? FVV was offered a sizeable contract and left because he got massive overpay, plus its his turmoil along with Nick Nurse that started the bad chemistry that unfoiled the team. Masai gave those dudes a chance to make it all work and its on the players and coach as to why it failed... yet you blame Masai? Pascals other offers were worse, Masai thought he had a team not full of Divas but aparently he was wrong. The Atlanta trade for less picks and Hunter was way better to you? Kawhi also, ABSOLUTELY nothing we could do.. wild you mentioned that at all. Klow was walking as the greatest Raptor of all time to finish out his career on a contender. You really going to give Masai crap for that? Hell Klow did us a solid in giving us a sign and trade to boot.. who knew Dragic would end uo being a little diva and Achiuwa was clearly worth a shot with that athelticism and strength. He always had lots of potential, it just didn't pan out. THATS on Masai????? Him trading Dragic away and having to give up compensation to do so is a fumble, but thats it so far. Danny Green? I guess? We might have got a 2nd rounder for him.. but my god is that a weird one to be mad about. He made some mistakes, but not many if you actually consider the cirumstances and none of the mistakes were ones you mentioned
masai shouldnt have any concern. there is no basketball executive or president that has as much pull overseas like masai. hes a pioneer in africa. hes one of the best scouts and has an eye for finding those diamonds in the rough. rodgers would be an idiot to let masai go.
The problem is how has that been working out lately? Other than drafting Scottie, it's been bad decision after bad decision since the Chip. It seems to me like he's lost it.
@@amiller2121 its been fine to me. not our fault kawhi didnt stay. thats hurt us the most. not on masai. yes he made the trade but it gave us a ring. something a bunch of teams dont have. he got us the chip. we were a top team in the east for a literal decade and yall worried about the last 3 years.
and as of right now our future it most certainly promising. gotta wear shades. its not like we are crippled down to no return. there is a legitimate chance we can get back into contention without the next 2-3 years.
I'm in the minority (apparently). I believe Masai Ujiri is overrated. For him to leave - will not be catastropic. Since Ujiri traded (opportunistic) Kawhi Leonard for (loya)l DeMar DeRosan his track record (trades, drafts, signings) is far from auspicious.
Successful businesses get there by hiring the best people. Masai is one of the best and that is why he is well paid. The pudits who are predicting that Masai is going to get fired are not any close to being the best at their job
He has been abysmal most of the last five years. Falling in love with his players and getting mostly nothing in return for them. This team will not be relevant for the next ten years.
@@NickS-o9o Check out how many franchises in the NBA have never won a Championship. Masai has to be loyal to his players becxause it is not easy keeping good American players in Toronto. Kawhi wanted to play at home and they weren't good enough to repeat without him. Alot of money was saved when FVV went to Houston and Pascal was traded to Indiana. What number draft selections were Kyle, Pascal , OG and FVV ? Chomche would be a top 5 draft pick next year and with Koloko giine the Raptors will get another high draft pick next year. With all of the stacked teams in the NBA right now the Raptors were not close to contending . Darko and his staff did a great job last year at improving most of the players on the team. I think that too many fans now have unrealistic expectations of the Raptors since they won it all . Be patient and lets see how the team develops this year before going into panic mode.
@@NickS-o9o He made great trades with the Knicks and Kings. The money saved on FVV was used to pay Scottie and IQ. You look at the mistakes of the past , while I am looking at the high potential of this years team. Your glass is half empty while mine is more than half full.
@@Biggdirt1 He gave away Kyle Lowry and Pascal Siakam for nothing. He was ruthless in his treatment of De Rozan and it paid off. He became soft after and let emotion take over him, dining on a championship that will never happen again. By the time this team returns to the play offs, Barnes will be a UFA and off to Miami or LA. I'm neither an optimist or a pessimist; I'm a realist.
Just so everybody knows the business end of this deal. Bell sold off its 37.5% and is using the $4.6 billion to pay down its debt. Rogers on the other hand went into more debt to acquire Bell's 37.5%. Things we are certain of, Rogers bills and MLSE ticket prices will be going up a lot for a far inferior product. Winning is not the number one priority for Roger Shareholders making money is.
Again, the ownership change dramatically changes how Rogers will account for the Raptors in their financial statements. You need to spend to win in the NBA and Rogers will not blow their income statement and put bonuses at risk. We have seen this with the Blue Jays which Rogers owned outright for some time. Welcome to mediocrity for ever.
The Harold Ballard era of the Raptors begins. Wait till ol' Ed realizes he can bring up the entire farm team and pocket the balance of the payroll minimum. And. Your! Cell! Bill! Is! Still! Going! Up!
what will happen is if rogers fires masai, and he screws up the team like he did with blue jays when they let anthopoulos go and who went on to win a championship with braves. meanwhile rogers hired loser gms shapiro and atkins who have done nothing and won nothing. basically fans will punish ROGERS COMMUNICATIONS by moving their internet, cable and phone and wireless services to BELL. that is best way to hurt Edward Rogers by moving your business to Bell.
I may be wrong. But I do not think this sale will close very easily. The money details in the press release were sketchy as hell. Rogers is paying 24% of its overall value as a company for 37.5 % of MLSE but no new debt ? And they don’t have this money on hand. ? It requires leaugue approvals CRTC approval and competition bureau of Canada approval. 2 of the 3 just finished taking Rogers over the coals over Shaw less than 18 months ago. And forced wind mobile to be sold to a different company. This is likely to be extended past spring 2025 announced I’m not concerned with Rogers financial policy. They don’t spend for rebuilds and if the teams are close to contention they do. Edward has been a wildcard - he’s an alt-right trump supporter ( literally with donations ) and it’s been showing - But I don’t think he wants to rock the boat too much because it puts him in the media which he abhors - because he has a stutter. That’s why if he’s on camera someone else is with him always. ( this presser he had to slowdown on “Blue Jays” a Masai battle - it doesn’t compute for either of them. The issues were resolved. Masai isn’t the most expensive executive any more; the open gym camera was explained; Masai and Justin Trudeau aren’t as publicly Buddy Buddy and Drake is still around but toned down. Edward doesn’t want the Press - Masai doesn’t want to move his young family with kids in school and settled nicely to the USA. My guess is Masai is here for another contract extension. Though this background stuff going on explains why Keith Pelley the longtime Rogers media head is now MLSE CEO as it would be abnormal for Bell to approve him otherwise. I think once this is done Edward Rogers goes back to his normal ultra private existence and Staffieri and Pelley will be the faces.
While Masai and Bobby Websters legacy is set in stone as Toronto legends with that championship win the last 4-5 years have been brutal. Bad timing, bad decisions, bad trades and poor signings. Its like they are trying to make up for trading Derozan by overvaluing and babying players because they feel guilty for making the trade. Maybe thinking that players dont want to come/stay here because we dont value loyalty. You also dont get massive contract extensions for what you did almost a decade ago and that is what both Masai and Bobby will expect. One or both will need to go. The future of this team revolves around Barnes, Barrett and Quickly all becoming far better than they currently are, which is troubling. Big changes are definitely coming.
Another point is I think the NBA is looking to future expansion and Montreal may be on the short list. If so then look to an investment group with Masaii, Larry Tannenbaum and a majority group from Quebec being part of the ownership group. P.S. If they retain Shapiro for the Jays and not Masaii for the Raptors then someone is a bit looney in the ownership group's headspace.
The NBA is not putting another team in Canada anytime soon. The commissioner said this at press conference at the last game in Montreal. He said they’re not looking to put another team outside the country right now. They will go back to places like Seattle before they put another team here. It’s just wishful thinking.
Seattle is definitely on the short list but there will be a second team to keep the league balanced. Mexico city has been mentioned but has major issues around dense population, air and traffic problems plus the elevation above sea level not to mention the crime rate. Montreal is a short distance to other major cities and being multicultural adds to the international qualities the NBA is seeking with future expansion aimed towards Europe. Makes good business sense to locate a team there.
Tannenbaum didn't simply lose power, he sold off the majority of his shares. Also Bobby Webster isn't Edward Rogers lol In terms of the Jays, the Rogers family are always willing to spend to win. Shatkins is the issue.
AS Long as Larry Tannenbaum is there he will stand up for Masaii. Best thing that can be done to build a better group of execs is for Ted Rogers to accompany Massii to Africa and see the outreach work he accomplishes. I think he would be most impressed by what he does by what he offers to the Continent of Africa which will be the next huge foundation of the next generation of future NBA players. If Ted Rogers does not then I agree Masaii 's days will be numbered which is rediculous just like when they hired Mark Shapiro over Alex Anthopoulos for the Blue Jays. Maybe then Alex should be hired to oversee both the Raptors and the Jays now that would be thinking outside of the box.
Dude.. you need to chill with your dramatic captions. If Rogers wants to can Massai you think he cares. He's would be getting 15 mil to leave. Truss me Massai ain't losing sleep over Rogers
Look to the Jays. There's your predictor of where the Raptors are going. Bobby Webster won't be able to plug all the leaks with Ed Rogers, who's worrying about Massai's salary.
Corporate ownership is only worried about the bottom line, pleasing stockholders of their majority holdings. Winning means nothing. Sad future for all the Toronto sports teams.
Roger's wanted to get rid of Masai Ujiri but got out voted by Bell and Tanenbaum. Roger's is all about being a smooth talker. They keep Shapiro and Atkins with the Blue Jay's because they are smooth talkers. Roger's does not like Ujiri even though he brought the Raptors a championship in 2019. It's a sad day for Toronto sports fans so there will be plenty of losses in the near future.
Masai will be gone first chance they get. Then, it's all downhill from there. They will claim new young team needs a new leader. They'll find someone cheap (Webster) and we'll turn into a laughingstock...
One company shouldn't be able to control nearly all the professional sports teams, broadcast channels and facilities in the same market. Is this not a form of monopoly? Oh wait, it's Rogers. That's their business model. Push out competition, provide inferior product, increase prices. Raps might be doomed.
Masai is one of the best sports managers we have in Toronto since Pat Gillick of the Blue Jays. Masai gave us a competitive playoff and a championship since he has been in Toronto. Look at the changes made by the Maple Leaf over the past sixty years. What have they achieved Nothing. If this is the end of Masia run, let him on term with respect and not chase out on town.
If he goes I’m very worried we rarely have good management And whenever we do it’s like owners get self conscious and anxiety and blow it up with people they know will do what they want. Then we stink for yrs and the cycle restarts. Iso not want another round of Andrea Raefael and Chris Jeffries era.
Get rid of all them. They traded everyone one for nothing, what were they thinking. Raptors are a disgrace and nobody wants to play here for good reason. Zero loyalty, they’ll trade you for nothing, it’s a rap man
If Rogers thinks it can put an inferior product on the floor and fans are going to stay tuned, they are mistaken. It's just like the Bluejays. If you don't have a winning team, they won't come. Only the Leafs can get away with that nonsense. But greed always clouds judgment where owners will tinker with something that is working well and try to fix it with someone else who they think will be just as good and break it.
Raptors basketball is going to go downhill with ticket prices skyrocketing the Rogers is going eff this up for the fans. The economy in general is not looking good a recession due to come in January?
I would keep MU and then extend around Jan 26 if the team trajectory is positive in the next 18 months? We need to get into that 2025 draft and I would tank now and get Starting C or big wing and then use Indy 2026 and Portland second 2025 to get the other starting piece too. This way you can trade Jak at deadline 2026 as expire and he can mentor the young bigs until then. It would be dumb not to keep him until end of 2026 since we are paying him. I don’t like paying coaches or FO to work for others.
How you going to make a video about Masai right now. The emotional stability of the children in your comment section can't handle that. You are ruining friendships out here because they are so miserable to be around
But in the end, he got his new contract which still has 2 years left on it. Reports out of Blue Jays is that Rogers are not micro managed the Jays Front office, but at the end of this contract Ujuri will have lead the Raptors front office for 13 years. Could things change, sure, we will see
Does this indicate an economic downturn or uncertain times? Is this selling high? Conflict seems to be escalating. Will the nba suffer if the US deploys a national conscription of young men?
Why worry about Masai. he is set and won't have any issues getting a top Job if he wants one as for us here in Toronto change is sometime necessary and if you are not winning games then change might be necessary. Just looking forward to watching the individual talents
We were the 2nd most winning team in the last 10 years lol, wtf are you talking about. We just started a rebuild and you expected to win 60 games????? Has everyone gone completely braindead?
Wait I'm pretty sure Tanembaum was the one that said Ujiri wasn't worth the money and he was the only one that didn't want to pay Masai when he signed that massive deal. Am I wrong???
Just read an old article guess Im wrong. This whole time I thought it was Larry that didn't want to sign him to that deal. I don't think he has been earning his money but he's definitely doing better than Shapiro and Atkins lately.. If you buy the team I expect curtsied tickets if im still alive Ben!
I'm probably in the minority here but I'm looking forward to new leadership. Sincerely hope it's not Bobby though. Masai has been complacent and arguably negligent for several years now making decisions based on emotion.
You guys think it’s so easy to build a Team in a country where stars and superstars don’t want to come. Just because Pat Riley can build a winning team in Miami it doesn’t mean he can do it in Canada. The players he can attract to Miami might never want to play here. I don’t think some of you guys understand how difficult it is to build a winning NBA team in a city where stars and superstars don’t want to come. There’s a reason why Dennis Schroder is the biggest free agent to sign here and he’s never been an allstar. Have you ever seen a star or superstar with Toronto on their list of preference for a trade ? 🤔 too many people think you can just hire some random GM here that can bring in KD level superstars. No GM can make guys that don’t to want to play in Canada play here. This isn’t Hockey! Also change is not always a good thing, or the right move just because you think it is.
I hope they fire massai is about time. he been milking the championship way to long, he been making bad decisions after bad decisions. Raptors fans are so delusional they dont see how much massai screw this team over.
@@jadenpereira5010 bro u know Webster is not going nowhere and that’s what makes it so wrong. Both of them ..and start fresh. Webster is of very little talent. His family name got him there. Ujiri will be ok he have lots of options but Webster …cha nobody want him.
I'LL BE EXCITED WITH MASAI LEAVING and his cronies, but I'm not keen on ROGERS TAKING A BIGGER STAKE. ROGERS IS PROFIT MOTIVATED, not necessarily interesteed in building a dynasty, or a team that is going to win. They may just say, hey, we fill the seats, we don't need to do more. Bell has 1/2 th tv rights so ROGERS doesn't really care much about that revenue stream.
I know people will hate that I even suggest this, but I want the government to step in and block this sale. This should not go through as it will kill the Raptors team and ruin a lot of things for consumers as well. Terrible news.
Owners who become involved in the day to day operations of a team usually cause the organization to fail. Dark days ahead for the Raptors I'm afraid.
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Dark days have been here since 2020. 4 years of crap
@@Stopbeingrudetome It's kind of weird how many fans are ok with FVV leaving for nothing, PS leaving for scraps, Leonard leaving for nothing, Serge Ibaka, Danny Green nothing, Klow for scraps, Marc Gasol nothing, than combine it with some mediocre to poor drafts and being satisfied cause we got Barnes and hailing management. Perhaps after 13 years we need a new vision? Not saying we do but if it's another tank job this year it's time to talk about it seriously.
@@The2ndavepete Maybe we do, but not for any reason you stated? Marc and Ibaka we had nothing we could do. Should we have traded them during the chip year or something? FVV was offered a sizeable contract and left because he got massive overpay, plus its his turmoil along with Nick Nurse that started the bad chemistry that unfoiled the team. Masai gave those dudes a chance to make it all work and its on the players and coach as to why it failed... yet you blame Masai? Pascals other offers were worse, Masai thought he had a team not full of Divas but aparently he was wrong. The Atlanta trade for less picks and Hunter was way better to you? Kawhi also, ABSOLUTELY nothing we could do.. wild you mentioned that at all. Klow was walking as the greatest Raptor of all time to finish out his career on a contender. You really going to give Masai crap for that? Hell Klow did us a solid in giving us a sign and trade to boot.. who knew Dragic would end uo being a little diva and Achiuwa was clearly worth a shot with that athelticism and strength. He always had lots of potential, it just didn't pan out. THATS on Masai????? Him trading Dragic away and having to give up compensation to do so is a fumble, but thats it so far. Danny Green? I guess? We might have got a 2nd rounder for him.. but my god is that a weird one to be mad about. He made some mistakes, but not many if you actually consider the cirumstances and none of the mistakes were ones you mentioned
masai shouldnt have any concern. there is no basketball executive or president that has as much pull overseas like masai. hes a pioneer in africa. hes one of the best scouts and has an eye for finding those diamonds in the rough. rodgers would be an idiot to let masai go.
Rogers already tried to let Masai go even when his reputation was on peak.
@@ryank794 my question is why get rid of a man that has given us the most successful 13 years in the history of the Raptors?
The problem is how has that been working out lately? Other than drafting Scottie, it's been bad decision after bad decision since the Chip. It seems to me like he's lost it.
@@amiller2121 its been fine to me. not our fault kawhi didnt stay. thats hurt us the most. not on masai. yes he made the trade but it gave us a ring. something a bunch of teams dont have. he got us the chip. we were a top team in the east for a literal decade and yall worried about the last 3 years.
and as of right now our future it most certainly promising. gotta wear shades. its not like we are crippled down to no return. there is a legitimate chance we can get back into contention without the next 2-3 years.
Woj retiring and Edward Rogers being the main dog at MLSE🙄 yesterday. What a bad day in Toronto sports.
I'm in the minority (apparently). I believe Masai Ujiri is overrated. For him to leave - will not be catastropic. Since Ujiri traded (opportunistic) Kawhi Leonard for (loya)l DeMar DeRosan his track record (trades, drafts, signings) is far from auspicious.
Successful businesses get there by hiring the best people. Masai is one of the best and that is why he is well paid. The pudits who are predicting that Masai is going to get fired are not any close to being the best at their job
He has been abysmal most of the last five years. Falling in love with his players and getting mostly nothing in return for them. This team will not be relevant for the next ten years.
@@NickS-o9o Check out how many franchises in the NBA have never won a Championship. Masai has to be loyal to his players becxause it is not easy keeping good American players in Toronto. Kawhi wanted to play at home and they weren't good enough to repeat without him. Alot of money was saved when FVV went to Houston and Pascal was traded to Indiana. What number draft selections were Kyle, Pascal , OG and FVV ? Chomche would be a top 5 draft pick next year and with Koloko giine the Raptors will get another high draft pick next year. With all of the stacked teams in the NBA right now the Raptors were not close to contending . Darko and his staff did a great job last year at improving most of the players on the team. I think that too many fans now have unrealistic expectations of the Raptors since they won it all . Be patient and lets see how the team develops this year before going into panic mode.
@@Biggdirt1 And in return they left. And he got nothing in return.
@@NickS-o9o He made great trades with the Knicks and Kings. The money saved on FVV was used to pay Scottie and IQ. You look at the mistakes of the past , while I am looking at the high potential of this years team. Your glass is half empty while mine is more than half full.
@@Biggdirt1 He gave away Kyle Lowry and Pascal Siakam for nothing. He was ruthless in his treatment of De Rozan and it paid off. He became soft after and let emotion take over him, dining on a championship that will never happen again. By the time this team returns to the play offs, Barnes will be a UFA and off to Miami or LA. I'm neither an optimist or a pessimist; I'm a realist.
Just so everybody knows the business end of this deal. Bell sold off its 37.5% and is using the $4.6 billion to pay down its debt.
Rogers on the other hand went into more debt to acquire Bell's 37.5%. Things we are certain of, Rogers bills and MLSE ticket prices will be going up a lot for a far inferior product. Winning is not the number one priority for Roger Shareholders making money is.
Again, the ownership change dramatically changes how Rogers will account for the Raptors in their financial statements. You need to spend to win in the NBA and Rogers will not blow their income statement and put bonuses at risk. We have seen this with the Blue Jays which Rogers owned outright for some time. Welcome to mediocrity for ever.
Wait a minute.. HOW & WHY SMFH 🤐
Rogers don’t care about winning, just a steady income
The Harold Ballard era of the Raptors begins. Wait till ol' Ed realizes he can bring up the entire farm team and pocket the balance of the payroll minimum.
And. Your! Cell! Bill! Is! Still! Going! Up!
Not just the Raptors MLSE owns the FC,Maple Leafs,Argos Rogers owns the Jays too so all Toronto teams are fucked
what will happen is if rogers fires masai, and he screws up the team like he did with blue jays when they let anthopoulos go and who went on to win a championship with braves. meanwhile rogers hired loser gms shapiro and atkins who have done nothing and won nothing.
basically fans will punish ROGERS COMMUNICATIONS by moving their internet, cable and phone and wireless services to BELL. that is best way to hurt Edward Rogers by moving your business to Bell.
I may be wrong. But I do not think this sale will close very easily.
The money details in the press release were sketchy as hell. Rogers is paying 24% of its overall value as a company for 37.5 % of MLSE but no new debt ? And they don’t have this money on hand. ?
It requires leaugue approvals CRTC approval and competition bureau of Canada approval. 2 of the 3 just finished taking Rogers over the coals over Shaw less than 18 months ago. And forced wind mobile to be sold to a different company. This is likely to be extended past spring 2025 announced
I’m not concerned with Rogers financial policy. They don’t spend for rebuilds and if the teams are close to contention they do.
Edward has been a wildcard - he’s an alt-right trump supporter ( literally with donations ) and it’s been showing - But I don’t think he wants to rock the boat too much because it puts him in the media which he abhors - because he has a stutter. That’s why if he’s on camera someone else is with him always. ( this presser he had to slowdown on “Blue Jays” a Masai battle - it doesn’t compute for either of them. The issues were resolved. Masai isn’t the most expensive executive any more; the open gym camera was explained; Masai and Justin Trudeau aren’t as publicly Buddy Buddy and Drake is still around but toned down. Edward doesn’t want the Press - Masai doesn’t want to move his young family with kids in school and settled nicely to the USA. My guess is Masai is here for another contract extension.
Though this background stuff going on explains why Keith Pelley the longtime Rogers media head is now MLSE CEO as it would be abnormal for Bell to approve him otherwise.
I think once this is done Edward Rogers goes back to his normal ultra private existence and Staffieri and Pelley will be the faces.
While Masai and Bobby Websters legacy is set in stone as Toronto legends with that championship win the last 4-5 years have been brutal. Bad timing, bad decisions, bad trades and poor signings. Its like they are trying to make up for trading Derozan by overvaluing and babying players because they feel guilty for making the trade. Maybe thinking that players dont want to come/stay here because we dont value loyalty.
You also dont get massive contract extensions for what you did almost a decade ago and that is what both Masai and Bobby will expect. One or both will need to go. The future of this team revolves around Barnes, Barrett and Quickly all becoming far better than they currently are, which is troubling. Big changes are definitely coming.
MASAI is gone. Edward Rogers isn't a Masai fan. And based on results the past few years .Masai's star has diminished Bye Masai.
The Blue Jays weren’t a serious destination for Shoai…. Stop the nonsense
@@garthlevy8275 Yes, but a brilliant move of Shoai's agent to use Toronto as a bargaining cheap to up his contract.
I wonder if Ed Rogers has ever been punched in the face?
This is horrible news.
@@Tom_TTT Guarantee he was bitch slapped by Daddy Ted as a kid.
Another point is I think the NBA is looking to future expansion and Montreal may be on the short list. If so then look to an investment group with Masaii, Larry Tannenbaum and a majority group from Quebec being part of the ownership group.
P.S. If they retain Shapiro for the Jays and not Masaii for the Raptors then someone is a bit looney in the ownership group's headspace.
That’s what I was thinking when I heard this story. Perhaps they are front runners for the next Canadian franchise… 👀
The NBA is not putting another team in Canada anytime soon. The commissioner said this at press conference at the last game in Montreal. He said they’re not looking to put another team outside the country right now. They will go back to places like Seattle before they put another team here. It’s just wishful thinking.
Seattle is definitely on the short list but there will be a second team to keep the league balanced. Mexico city has been mentioned but has major issues around dense population, air and traffic problems plus the elevation above sea level not to mention the crime rate.
Montreal is a short distance to other major cities and being multicultural adds to the international qualities the NBA is seeking with future expansion aimed towards Europe. Makes good business sense to locate a team there.
if there is a replacement at the top and I hope not. Perhaps Rogers can go after Bob Myers
If Masai leaves I’m out too.
Tannenbaum didn't simply lose power, he sold off the majority of his shares. Also Bobby Webster isn't Edward Rogers lol In terms of the Jays, the Rogers family are always willing to spend to win. Shatkins is the issue.
Yea he's now invested in the WNBA and he's still Adam Silvers Boss
AS Long as Larry Tannenbaum is there he will stand up for Masaii. Best thing that can be done to build a better group of execs is for Ted Rogers to accompany Massii to Africa and see the outreach work he accomplishes. I think he would be most impressed by what he does by what he offers to the Continent of Africa which will be the next huge foundation of the next generation of future NBA players.
If Ted Rogers does not then I agree Masaii 's days will be numbered which is rediculous just like when they hired Mark Shapiro over Alex Anthopoulos for the Blue Jays. Maybe then Alex should be hired to oversee both the Raptors and the Jays now that would be thinking outside of the box.
Dude.. you need to chill with your dramatic captions. If Rogers wants to can Massai you think he cares. He's would be getting 15 mil to leave. Truss me Massai ain't losing sleep over Rogers
Look to the Jays. There's your predictor of where the Raptors are going. Bobby Webster won't be able to plug all the leaks with Ed Rogers, who's worrying about Massai's salary.
Corporate ownership is only worried about the bottom line, pleasing stockholders of their majority holdings. Winning means nothing. Sad future for all the Toronto sports teams.
Roger's wanted to get rid of Masai Ujiri but got out voted by Bell and Tanenbaum. Roger's is all about being a smooth talker. They keep Shapiro and Atkins with the Blue Jay's because they are smooth talkers. Roger's does not like Ujiri even though he brought the Raptors a championship in 2019. It's a sad day for Toronto sports fans so there will be plenty of losses in the near future.
Masai will be gone first chance they get. Then, it's all downhill from there. They will claim new young team needs a new leader. They'll find someone cheap (Webster) and we'll turn into a laughingstock...
One company shouldn't be able to control nearly all the professional sports teams, broadcast channels and facilities in the same market. Is this not a form of monopoly? Oh wait, it's Rogers. That's their business model. Push out competition, provide inferior product, increase prices. Raps might be doomed.
Masai is one of the best sports managers we have in Toronto since Pat Gillick of the Blue Jays.
Masai gave us a competitive playoff and a championship since he has been in Toronto.
Look at the changes made by the Maple Leaf over the past sixty years.
What have they achieved Nothing.
If this is the end of Masia run, let him on term with respect and not chase out on town.
If he goes I’m very worried we rarely have good management
And whenever we do it’s like owners get self conscious and anxiety and blow it up with people they know will do what they want. Then we stink for yrs and the cycle restarts. Iso not want another round of Andrea Raefael and Chris Jeffries era.
Never ever be the same Why did Bell sell ? Everything has changed Roger’s is awful
Regardless of what Roger has in store to spend and get good players, it is difficult to get good players in Toronto.
Get rid of all them. They traded everyone one for nothing, what were they thinking. Raptors are a disgrace and nobody wants to play here for good reason. Zero loyalty, they’ll trade you for nothing, it’s a rap man
Massi should trade Ben Rogers and his dad Edward Rogers for a Donkey 🫏 and 2nd round pick!
Goal for Ed Rogers and NFL team it will make him the first owner of all 4 major sports
If Rogers thinks it can put an inferior product on the floor and fans are going to stay tuned, they are mistaken. It's just like the Bluejays. If you don't have a winning team, they won't come. Only the Leafs can get away with that nonsense. But greed always clouds judgment where owners will tinker with something that is working well and try to fix it with someone else who they think will be just as good and break it.
Raptors have been Craptors for a while under Masai so not much of a concern if he is gone.
The nba needs veto deal, and the Canadian government should not allow this monopoly
Ayeeee
I’ve seen enough. Move the team to Vancouver already
Masai reached his peak5 years ago time to move on from this mess
Sneaky Bobby always lurked in the grass
Cody rhodes voice Woooooj!
The Rogers family is a bad smell.
Raptors basketball is going to go downhill with ticket prices skyrocketing the Rogers is going eff this up for the fans. The economy in general is not looking good a recession due to come in January?
Let him massai go please
I would keep MU and then extend around Jan 26 if the team trajectory is positive in the next 18 months? We need to get into that 2025 draft and I would tank now and get Starting C or big wing and then use Indy 2026 and Portland second 2025 to get the other starting piece too. This way you can trade Jak at deadline 2026 as expire and he can mentor the young bigs until then.
It would be dumb not to keep him until end of 2026 since we are paying him. I don’t like paying coaches or FO to work for others.
Masai would be unemployed for about thirty seconds if his contract wasn’t renewed or terminated.
How you going to make a video about Masai right now. The emotional stability of the children in your comment section can't handle that. You are ruining friendships out here because they are so miserable to be around
Masai is gone by end of season😢 bet on it
But in the end, he got his new contract which still has 2 years left on it. Reports out of Blue Jays is that Rogers are not micro managed the Jays Front office, but at the end of this contract Ujuri will have lead the Raptors front office for 13 years. Could things change, sure, we will see
Wait .. Edward Rogers increased the profits of the "Paging" division. He's a sports genius!!
Does this indicate an economic downturn or uncertain times? Is this selling high? Conflict seems to be escalating. Will the nba suffer if the US deploys a national conscription of young men?
Don’t jump the gun
Ujuri may have made a number of questionable selections and a few really bad ones lately but Rogers is not the man to right the ship.
If we become the leafs and the Jays, Raps fans should be on watch for self deletion
I dont think Masai is worried, he has potential and a solid track record to go to other organizations.
Well it's not like the Raps can get any worse...right?
so many people on instagram were saying fire masai. now i dont see em talking and agreeing with this
I wonder if woj went to any of Diddy’s freak offs ????
Shams broke the story on the retirement it before Woj did hahaha
Why worry about Masai. he is set and won't have any issues getting a top Job if he wants one as for us here in Toronto change is sometime necessary and if you are not winning games then change might be necessary. Just looking forward to watching the individual talents
We were the 2nd most winning team in the last 10 years lol, wtf are you talking about. We just started a rebuild and you expected to win 60 games????? Has everyone gone completely braindead?
Any team that gets masai will be better!
We're f'ed!
Wait I'm pretty sure Tanembaum was the one that said Ujiri wasn't worth the money and he was the only one that didn't want to pay Masai when he signed that massive deal. Am I wrong???
Just read an old article guess Im wrong. This whole time I thought it was Larry that didn't want to sign him to that deal. I don't think he has been earning his money but he's definitely doing better than Shapiro and Atkins lately.. If you buy the team I expect curtsied tickets if im still alive Ben!
Your wrong. It was Edward Rogers who said that.
I'm probably in the minority here but I'm looking forward to new leadership. Sincerely hope it's not Bobby though. Masai has been complacent and arguably negligent for several years now making decisions based on emotion.
I totally agree with you.
You guys think it’s so easy to build a Team in a country where stars and superstars don’t want to come. Just because Pat Riley can build a winning team in Miami it doesn’t mean he can do it in Canada. The players he can attract to Miami might never want to play here. I don’t think some of you guys understand how difficult it is to build a winning NBA team in a city where stars and superstars don’t want to come. There’s a reason why Dennis Schroder is the biggest free agent to sign here and he’s never been an allstar. Have you ever seen a star or superstar with Toronto on their list of preference for a trade ? 🤔 too many people think you can just hire some random GM here that can bring in KD level superstars. No GM can make guys that don’t to want to play in Canada play here. This isn’t Hockey! Also change is not always a good thing, or the right move just because you think it is.
@@mikeyjames well spoken💯
I hope they fire massai is about time. he been milking the championship way to long, he been making bad decisions after bad decisions. Raptors fans are so delusional they dont see how much massai screw this team over.
Its time to let Masai go. The longer he stays, the worse the Raptors become
You sound hella stupid. It’s time to let you go from the raptors fan base.
Everything is new except for ujiri and Webster. Lol ..don’t make sense they have to go. Too many mistake in too short of a time. .
I think he wanted ujir gone so he can promote Webster
@@jadenpereira5010 bro u know Webster is not going nowhere and that’s what makes it so wrong. Both of them ..and start fresh. Webster is of very little talent. His family name got him there. Ujiri will be ok he have lots of options but Webster …cha nobody want him.
The question is can ownership manage masai or does masai tend to manage ownership
Bob Meyers is available. GET HIM . If they let Masai go.
Masai has reached his expiration date! Thankful for what he did in the past and gave us a championship!
Time for a new look and vision!
I'LL BE EXCITED WITH MASAI LEAVING and his cronies, but I'm not keen on ROGERS TAKING A BIGGER STAKE. ROGERS IS PROFIT MOTIVATED, not necessarily interesteed in building a dynasty, or a team that is going to win. They may just say, hey, we fill the seats, we don't need to do more. Bell has 1/2 th tv rights so ROGERS doesn't really care much about that revenue stream.
I know people will hate that I even suggest this, but I want the government to step in and block this sale. This should not go through as it will kill the Raptors team and ruin a lot of things for consumers as well. Terrible news.
The minute the current media deal with TSN ends the Raptors games are going to be exclusive on SportsNet. Mark my words.