I think that’s cause Frankie is the only one still close to her off the show. It’s nice to see and I think Heidi is just still hurt and Lauren just stopped talking to Audrina as soon as she was off the show.
So let me get this straight, Spencer deliberately went on the show to cause drama, started the whole sex tape rumour, and you are mad at Lauren for being mad at Spencer and literally calling him out to what he admitted he was doing?
Exactly, but now on this podcast Heidi wants to convince us she “really hated having to film and be around Lauren”, dawg we literally watched you beg and beg Lauren to bring you back in her circle even using Stephanie and Holly to desperately get back in her good graces.
Same. She’s still performing and in denial. I’m sure a ton of it was fake and we don’t know what really happened but clearly something did and it’s funny hearing her say there’s no reason they shouldn’t be friends 😆
I’m on Lauren side. I still think Spencer did that about the rumor about a sex tape about Lauren and Heidi went along with it because she was in a relationship with him and also married him and Spencer did that because he hated Lauren. I forgive Heidi now.
this feels like revisionist history because if y’all knew that Spencer was orchestrating drama and then the sex tape drama happen, of course lauren was right about not trusting or being protective over Heidi. like hearing that Spencer was doing all that is a little messed up.
Came to the comment section to see if Heidi is STILL bashing Lauren and trying to shift the narrative to make herself look good before even bothering with watching this and confirmed what I suspected 🙄 thanks for helping me not waste my time by watching this y’all
Wait, so Spencer came on the show to purposefully mess with Heidi to get on the show for fame and clout. He used Lauren’s show as a vehicle to be famous by stirring up drama with Lauren and Heidi. Then started and spread an awful rumor about Lauren…and Heidi wonders why Laurent didn’t like Spencer???
This has officially turned into let’s bash Lauren” podcast . Love the pod cast but even it being Lauren’s fault Heidi decided to not be friends with Adriana that’s a stretch
according to heidi, she had noooooooo idea who lauren was, and lauren was suuuuuch a loser, that she felt bad for her, and became friends out of pity 😂😂😂😂
Heidi's ex boyfriend daid in this samenshow that Heidi had told him back then she wanted to be more famous than Kristin Cavallari and basically that's why she befriended Lauren.
@@steevenhyde3505it’s also so interesting that she said ‘more famous than Kristen’… not ‘more famous than Lauren’. When she was friends with Lauren, and both girls were equally ‘famous’ at the time. Makes me think that she already jealous of Lauren and subconsciously trying to tear her down
I think that’s the point of the show, because the Hills was so one sided. Everybody’s storyline was surrounding Lauren’s. This podcast gives these individuals the opportunity to express their feelings of what was going on behind the scenes back then. Literally, exactly what the fans have been asking for years!
For those of you wanting a watch a better recap of the series, Whitney Port and her husband Timmy do a way better job than whatever the heck this is. With the exception of Frankie, the constant digs at Lauren aren’t it. The only thing I got out of this was validation that Heidi cared more about fame than she did her friendship with Lauren.
That's a reaction channel and this is podcast ..LOVE Whitney and tim but Ur insane .. they've taken plenty off jabs and mocked the cast the whole way thru ..these guys aren't even mocking they're just telling stories from their perspective.. but whit n Tim have done the same
This was hard to watch. Your backing up Spencer for using Lauren for TV!!! She was way too mature for you guys. I stand with Lauren way more now. Heidi choose TV over Lauren during that time and now you want that friendship! No way!
Frankie is my favorite. I’m starting to REALLY dislike the rest. None of them take accountability they blame everything on Lauren but don’t ever take accountability to their wrongs too.
The difference with Jason was that he was still a good guy that everyone liked but was an awful bf. Spencer is just a d bag with d bag vibes. I wish Lauren was on to defend herself. You all would be nowhere without her.
I’ve never really been a fan of hers…. I find she hides a lot of who she is and I’ve noticed since Heidi joined this we see a different side of Audrina then we have
She is like a sneaky mean girl. Very quiet and always talks with a nice, sweet tone. She acts oblivious to things and clearly just forms what she's gonna say off of the person she's talking to at the moment. I garuantee if Lauren were to call her, she would agree with Lauren's side the way she is doing with Heidi.
not that it would have ever happened, but say instead of Heidi coming as a co-host, Lauren did, Audrina would be siding with Lauren and calling Montag out for all the sh1t she did, saying she was a bad friend, and totally defending LC
Heidi admitting to doing anything for the sake of the show proves she befriended Lauren to get on TV. Season 1 Heidi was so genuine but once Spencer entered her life everything changed.
she is genuine as fck now too. you just dont like what she has to say. seems Lauren was the one not genuine. When friends dont do what she wants she alienates them. Thats a control freak. Maybe good for business but its not good for friendships hence why Lauren seems to have few friends. Heidi literally says she went the extra nine yards to appease Lauren on/off camera but it was never enough.
@@en6278Lauren is very private about her life so you can’t speculate on her as friend or how many friends she has. Lauren also has admitted to being too controlling of her friends in the Hills look back special. Heidi can’t own up to her involvement of the rumor or the real reason she became friends with Lauren. Her and Spencer would do anything for extra screen time which is great for TV. If you watch season 1 until the ending of the show, you can see Heidi had changed.
@@hayerickson4361 she has changed like everybody changes in those years. all from the show have changed. but she still seems the same girl even now just 15 years wiser & older. The fact she is still with spencer in itself proves she hasnt changed . Laurens the one who has had different men. who cares how she became friends with Lauren? why wouldnt she wanna be on a TV show? that doesnt mean anything. They both became friends cause of the tv show that works both ways. Heidi was always subservant to Lauren & Lauren exploited it thinking she could control her. She made Heidi choose between Spencer & her. Heidi chose love as she should.
Agreed. Everyone bashing Lauren cause she tried to not look silly and be controlled as little as possible by producers all while complaining that they were manipulated by producers and how uncomfortable that made them. They just sound kinda jealous that she kept who she was close and didn’t let them in for fame.
@@jessicahuntington erm what? Lauren played along just like they did. The delusion. all the jason stuff. all the Brody stuff. do any of these people seem bitter to you they sit there laughing about it every episode. They are having fun about it all. Does Lauren even have any friends? I dont think she even speaks to Lo anymore. She is teh one who cant be chill about the shows & let bygones be bygones. They were all like 20 at the time so why would you hold grudges?
Because his her true friend and .. his gonna make sure it’s not putting dirt on her name .. a couple of low blows ant nothing to Frankie when the line is crossed gonna check whoever that’s why we love and respect Frankie forever.. and will take his word over anybody on this podcast !
Anyone else sick of Heidi making out that Spencer was some genius producer when in reality he was just a douche bag and they are now desperately trying to make him look like he wasn’t 🙄
Exactly. Spencer is being labeled as a ‘genius’ when planning out drama for the show but then they label Lauren as a ‘fake, calculated, controlling, and manipulative’ person when she does the exact same thing. Such a childish, classless bunch. They never changed.
@@santi0089Brody said the same thing on previous podcasts about Lauren. She was calculated and wanted control of her self image on TV, but Spencer is a master producer from the famous show he produced with Brody…😂 Princes of Malibu which nobody ever heard of or watched. I looked it up and it aired 6 episodes and then got cancelled 😂😂😂
I would have so much more respect for Heidi [and spencer] if they simply took ownership for their behaviour during the hills. Real or not, they acted like complete a**holes but continue to point the finger at everyone around them. King and queen of gaslighting
I’m not buying Heidi’s story of her and Spencer orchestrating the night he went out with other girls. I think Heidi goes with that story because she didn’t want to look like she got played. I think spencer got to use the show as an excuse for his bad behavior. Like ya I brought playmates to the club but it was all for the show. And whether the sex rumor was all for the show or not if your BF did that,Lauren definitely had a right to not want to have anything to do with both of you.
Surprised that Brody decides to bash Lauren calling her a bad jealous friend. Wow. So this show is “Was it real” but there’s little reveal of what is real from Audrina or Brody. Heidi is doing good at spilling some tea. Can they answer a simple question: who knew back then about these fake scenes by Heidi and Spencer?????? Heidi did you tell Lauren? Answer this. If you didn’t tell her then it is Obvious why she didn’t support your relationship. They like to ask Heidi “what did Lauren think” or “what did she say” but that’s still heresay. Why don’t they ask Heidi what she said to Lauren. It’s an obvious question whether or not Lauren knew about these fake scenes. Audrina had no idea back then and has no idea now. She brings nothing new to the table.
Absolutely! Knowing whether Lauren knew about the fake scenes is a pretty important part of the story. If she didn’t, then Heidi is an asshole and would definitely make your friend not like your boyfriend much. As we know, they are picking and choosing the questions that actually come on the show from fans.
Honestly after these two episodes I’m done listening to this podcast. Heidi has already ruined this show. And its funny how Audrina is being a mean girl and throwing digs at Lauren knowing Heidi is gonna back her up.
I think this episode was one the best so far. The last few were really talking Lauren down, I hope they continue to be being real, but respectful. There is a way to talk about what happened without shaming someone. It is uncalled for and tasteless. Good job guys!
It’s obvious Audrina hates Lauren the most. She’s always the first one to talk crap about her, and it seems like she’s manipulating the conversation. Love that Frankie defends Lauren.
Lauren was supportive of your first TV boyfriend. He wasn't a clout chaser like Spencer or using her to get on TV. She had every right to be protective!
So Heidi was supposed to bow down to Lauren and break up with Spencer? No one should have control over who you date, not even your mother. They can give you advice, but what kind of friend gives an ultimatum like that? LC was a bad friend.
You clearly said Spencer used you guys for TV. Lauren had her guard up around him. Rightfully so!!! I wouldn't want my bestie with him etheir. Especially when no one else was playing his game!
They’re literally sharing the reasons why she had every right to not trust him. He wasn’t genuine. He was manipulative and calculating. He just wanted to be famous. They’re saying all of this. So why wouldn’t she not want to be around him?
Heidi and Audrina talk so much crap about Lauren. But this show was supposed to be about Lauren and her journey. It’s not her fault Heidi and Audrina were clout chasers and decided to turn the narrative of the show because they so badly wanted to be known. I’m unsubscribing after this episode. You are GROWN women with kids and you still choose to bash Lauren 15 years later. So pathetic
They could've an wonderful show but is too one sided. They keep dragging Lauren and Whitney. They could twll their side of their story without focusing so much in hating Lauren. Wasn't there a clip somewhere of the Max guy hanging out with Lindsay Lohan and also with the people from the Bling Ring?
It’s like the rejects tried to recreate the show, it gets cancelled so now they get together, make a podcast, and still try to live off Lauren’s name. This is so one sided!
how so? lauren chose to stop after the wedding. how can they be the rejects when they had the hills; new beginnings for two seasons? how is it one sided when lauren can defend herself at any point? i dont think lauren has hate in her heart for anything. i dont think she cares tbh.
@@elysia.. It's very one sided as we are hearing alot about Lauren but not from Lauren, so they should just avoid making judgement on how they think she felt and just focus on their own storylines
Lauren was a HUGE part of the show… of the episodes, and in turn, of their lives at this point in time. It would be impossible to speak about what was happening in these moments without them talking about lauren as well, as she was a part of them.
I don't really blame Lauren for getting annoyed with Spencer and Heidi, she was very clear on how she wanted to build her image to have a career in the fashion industry. This was a show that followed her life in L.A. and Spencer did everything in his power to take over and make it a show about Spencer and to create all this fake drama. I'm not saying he shouldn't take advantage of the situation to reach his goals but it's very understandable Lauren wouldn't be happy about it. She felt betrayed by Heidi.
Heidi is so full of it. I would believe her more if she would own up to what she did to Lauren instead of painting Lauren and the bad guy. Sounds like everything is Lauren’s fault and they would be still be friends . But she’s blaming them not being friends on her
Spencer did change the Hills but he did take it a little to far. People fell in love with Heidi when she was being authentic. I think her and Spencer would of been better off showing more of their authenticity
I’m looking forward to Heidi talking about when her & Spencer lost the plot & got kicked off the show. Spencer showing up to the finale dressed as an old man and security removing him 😂☠️
I'm surprised so many people found Spencer entertaining. I always thought he was boring and acted like a child. It was cringe. Later in the seasons I would fast forward his parts.
I just can’t believe they are praising his toxic behavior and identifying it as protective, honestly…i would want to sink into the ground if somebody who i know behaves like this in public. But of course he was just producing for TV. Keep forgetting…😂
The fact that they all acknowledged that Spencer’s sole motivation behind the way he was to the point where it hurt Heidi and her relationships with other people just for fame and money. But don’t see an issue with any of that especially with the part where Heidi keeps trying to put her falling out with Lauren on Lauren even though she openly admits that Spencer’s behaviour was the reason why they had a falling out. This is all stuff we already knew they just think that if they don’t accept reality in form that everybody sees as it’ll change peoples opinions of them.
Now I’m wondering how they are going to blame Lauren for why they all hooked her childhood friend Jen and Brody up? 🙄 smh that you all are sitting there bashing her like she wasn’t the reason for the show and why you have a podcast even now. 100% I watched because of Lauren. PERIOD. I’m pretty confident most of the hills already had fans before it aired because of Lauren from Laguna Beach.
The Lauren bashing is too much! The difference between the Jason and Spencer situations is Heidi would literally make plans with Lauren and cancel and Spencer was a complete ASSHOLE to Lauren Jason was never mean to Heidi
Heidi is ridiculous. Lauren had every right to not want Spencer present in the circle or on the show. Because Spencer and Brody even admitted the actions to getting on the show were very calculated. Obviously Spencer genuinely loved and still loves Heidi of course. But it def started out very orchestrated.
This podcast makes me hate Audrina and Heidi. They are definitely the mean girls and trouble makers. And Brodi doesn’t defend Lauren at least Franki does
Lauren cut Heidi off because of the sex tape rumors. That’s what truly spiraled their friendship. Heidi never owned up or apologized for that. That was on her and Spencer not Lauren.
Frankie is perfect for this kind of podcast. He shares two perspectives and tries to see situations from both sides. The rest of them …. I got nothing to say lol. Just giving bitterness
Heidi just stays in this state of denial with Lauren. Its scary to watch how she takes no responsibility or accountability for her supporting the man who pushed the sex tape rumor out into the public. Thats unforgivable and all her and Spencer talk about is loyalty lol.
I feel like they are making Lauren out to be this control freak. It seems like to me Heidi was complaining alot of Spencer and isn't fessing up to that. Spencer came off as a douche. Im sure thats what Lauren saw. Plus Audrina was a new friend. New friends don't always tell you the truth.
Acting like Spencer "made" the show with all his fake drama, I personally wanted to see a bunch of girlfriends party around LA & work in a world I'd never personally see/experience, I personally didn't like the constant tension & drama :/
Heidi said "there's a lot to unfold in this episode," which made me think of Moira Rose and David Rose from Schitt's Creek trying to un-fold the cheese
Heidi and Spencer are two Hollywood absorbed, fame obsessed people that found each other. Not surprised they go to bat for each other and don’t see the red flags in their behaviours. Perfect match honestly
Whyy allll the shit comments and narrative about lauren?? She literally doesnt talk about any of these ppl..im sure things were done on both sides..but to them its all lauren...sad
New set look… fun :) “I don’t trust Spencer but I do trust that Spencer likes you…” Another great assessment from Lauren before the storm. Yes Frankie, Lauren was protective of Heidi because they were best friends. And she wanted her friends to be with good guys and not snakes. But sometimes we do not realize at the time that our “friends” are snakes too. Audrina… tap into your memory bank and bring some more substance back to the podcast. Audrina says that if Lauren would have just been there as a friend for Heidi that they would still be friends. Then says that Lauren was a good friend to her. 😂😂😂 Heidi has to stop lying. So the whole club scene, you crying and calling out Spencer was planned on your end with Spencer? And Lauren would have had no reason to stop liking Spencer or being protective of you? You have been a snake all along like Spencer (well this is likely true as others have said)? No surprise that the true “drama” of Heidi disliking Audrina stemmed from Spencer. Spencer talking shit on Audrina, Audrina saying to watch out for Spencer, and Heidi not knowing which of them to believe. So, I see why Lauren would be leery of both Audrina and Spencer at this time in support of Heidi. And very happy that Lauren sorted things out with Audrina and brought her back into the mix of the show. I remember seeing Max on another reality TV show. That exchange with him and Spencer was so corny. 😂Typical doofy LA guys who are not going to throw hands, and I guess for Spencer to have a TV moment. 😂 Awww, Lauren and Brody cuteness 🥰 That hug and greeting at the club was so 😍 You can see how much Brody likes Lauren. But I understand why Lauren was only going to have a friendship with Brody… and I’m happy they did have a good friendship. But this eppy truly opened up what a “sucky person” Spencer is. You could see that Lauren liked Spencer and didn’t have a full on reason or facts to not trust him on her end. Then… the reason and facts for disliking him were presented right in front of her… and piled on from there. Talking about naked picnics after telling Heidi you are all about her. I wouldn’t like him for My best friend either. It’s funny listening to Brody speak on how Spencer creates scenarios for the show. No surprise but proof on why people did not like him and knew that his brand was toxic. I give people chances too, until they show who they truly are- then you can’t defend them. It is obvious that Spencer is a clout chaser like Heidi said. And that Heidi never had a mind of her own. Both are very disingenuous. I see why it became difficult for the entire cast to film with the two of them. The clips you guys show are good and counters much of what comes out of people’s mouths :)
And Heidi wonders why Lauren didn’t want her dating Spencer? Not because he was a bad boyfriend but bc he’d make the show messy. Heidi literally says Spencer had a vision for the show aka Lauren’s show. I’m sure she knew what would happen.
When I rewatched season 2 I saw that Heidi Lauren friendship was falling apart even before the sex tape rumour . Getting upset that Heide isn’t making time for her and being unfair by making her choose . Then I thought maybe Lauren didn want to be friends with Heide and it was a way for her to get out
Let’s not forget that Lauren was actually mad at Spencer for the sex tape thing. She wasn’t jealous or controlling, she was betrayed and couldn’t get past it!
Put it this way...Lauren has been on Whitney's youbtube and also Stephen & Kristins. I can't see her coming on this because they keep slating everyone. Not a good look.
Does anyone else find it very strange that a lot of time passed with the three girls being friends again after their moment of hating Audrina and none of them ever discussed the reason they were so mad at her? And I'm not meaning discussing it on the show, but in real life, they never said why? Audrina never pushed for a reason as to why? It is a little too unbelievable that Audrina is just now finding this information out as to why they stopped talking to her, just out of the blue....they had never discussed this after they became friends again? ... Neither Lauren nor Heidi ever told Audrina the reason they just stopped talking to her.... and not even just stop talking to her, but hated her? I am sure all of us viewers can get a small, general idea of Lauren's personality, not only from watching the show, but also what her fellow co-stars say, .... she is not likely the type of person that would all of a sudden get over something like her friend and co-star (Audrina) hooking up with Jason. That does not sound like something Lauren would all of a sudden move on from and just be friends as if it never happened. Now it certainly would make sense, if she were to find out that this rumor was not true, but then her and Heidi would obviously tell Audrina they were sorry and were wrong to have treated treated her the way they did and of course follow up the conversation with the reason they were wrong. I also feel the producers would have privately told Audrina the reason the girls were not talking to her, especially once Audrina was ready to quit the show over it.
100%. Which is exactly why we know that Heidi is lying 😂 Also there’s no way producers wouldn’t have run with that storyline. A love triangle between Lauren (the star), Jason (her famous ex) and Audrina? Ratings gold. A love triangle between two lesser characters (Heidi and Audrina) and some guy no on had ever heard of (Spencer)? Not so exciting lol
HEIDI KNOWS WHY LAUREN DOESNT WANT HER AND SPENCER ON HER SHOW BC OF THE SEX TAPE RUMOR! YET SHES PLAYING VICTIM AND MANIPULATIVE, STEPPING ON LAUREN TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK INNOCENT, SPREADING NEW RUMORS AND MOST OF ALL, SPEAKING ABOUT SECRETS LAUREN ONCE TRUSTED HER WITH. YIKES HEIDI HAS NOT GROWN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.. LAUREN SHOULD SUE
I watched the hills when it first came out and I related a lot with Lauren then. I’ve change quite some like I’m sure she has too, but I was really protective of my friends. I was very honest and would call out any bullshit I saw from their boyfriends similar to Lauren. I thought that’s what a good friend was then. Now I know that my friend just wanted someone to vent to. I had some girl friends that would vent about their guy but would never take my advice. After a while, I would get tired of it and start resenting my friend’s boyfriend. My friend would then go tell their boyfriend what I said to them in private and it would cause a lot of strain on our friendship. I feel that’s what happened between Lauren and Heidi. Heidi would vent to Lauren about Spencer. Lauren being very protective started to dislike Spencer and tell Heidi he wasn’t good for her. Then Heidi would go to Spencer and tell him Lauren didn’t approve of him. I think that’s why Spencer started to dislike Lauren and call her controlling when in fact she was just trying to be a good friend. I learned my lesson and now I don’t get involved. If my friend wants to be with a tool that’s on them. I’ll listen but try not to make any opinions. It’s kind of a shame, but I got so over it because then you’re the one who looks bad for just trying to be a good friend 🤷♀️
I've been in the same situations and all you can do as a friend is be supportive of whoever your friends choose to be with. You can give advice and let them vent to you but you CANNOT tell someone who to be with! LC is a bad friend for that and I'm so glad Heidi and Spencer are still happily together with 2 kids.
Heidi seems bitter that Lauren was the star and it was her show. She’s also mad Lauren followed her dreams and is worth 40 million now. She’s to successful to be online recapping a scripted show. Lmao. Poor Heidi all them faces and still can’t find a good one 😂
I enjoy this podcast with the addition of Heidi. The only comment I have it that Frankie become a little more polished in asking and answering questions. He seems nervous/uncomfortable and stumbling/fumbling over his words.
There’s no way that Heidi and producers didn’t know he was going to say inappropriate things about Heidi. Because if not that guy would’ve been fired for sexual harassment. Something doesn’t add up. Every time they mention Spencer take a drink. We would be wasted and it’s only 8 min in.
I will say last season on this channel the ad reads were horrendously cringe but you stepped it up.. you could put a little more effort in though, just some criticism
Also everyone in the comments is always like "Boo hoo they're so mean to Lauren." Lol. She had an amazing edit throughout both her shows and I think it's fascinating to hear the production aspect of Spencer's presence. Like of course Heidi is gonna dunk on her! You don't have to give it credibility but c'mon, the whole show was anti-Heidi to an extent.
I’m a huge Lauren fan but I’m not a Lauren fan when it came to how Lauren treated Heidi. I feel there’s not denying lauren was hypocritical and unfair to Heidi at times. Their relationship started to really fall off when Heidi quit school, there was definitely tense building up after that… & this was all before spencer. When lauren learned Heidi got a man’s she seemed supportive but quickly started to despise him… sure in the beginning moments he fked up however he tried to make it right , Heidi would take him back … Heidi as a right to learn from her mistakes like Lauren did with Jason. All I see is Heidi trying to make effort balancing him and her, Spence was even trying to get lauren to like him… however I think it gets to the point of someone just keeps giving ultimatums, not being accepting, not trying …. That makes you give up. I don’t blame spencer for giving up on lauren, he can’t force her. At a point the friendship got not fixable. So when he started doing actually grimey shit , I think it was just to help Heidi & Spence stay on the show at that point … lauren clearly wanted them off but their “plan” worked so they got to stay. I don’t agree with the schemey shi at all but I see why they did it from their own Perspective.
I don’t understand why bring Lauren up every time - Frankie was saying ..him and Hillary girls were friends good friends - just because Lauren dated someone they knew what makes it messy . There was probably no overlap - 🙄
I really appreciate that Frankie sticks up for Lauren. It really feels like Heidi and Audrina just bash her in every episode
I think that’s cause Frankie is the only one still close to her off the show. It’s nice to see and I think Heidi is just still hurt and Lauren just stopped talking to Audrina as soon as she was off the show.
I agreee heidi and audrina seem i fully believe want to to stay revelant by talking about her
I understand Why audrina bash her . She really was the fakest of fake to audrina on the show, befriending her just cause She had no friends
So let me get this straight, Spencer deliberately went on the show to cause drama, started the whole sex tape rumour, and you are mad at Lauren for being mad at Spencer and literally calling him out to what he admitted he was doing?
So twisted.
reality tv in your 20's. oof lol its in the past. who cares
@@elysia.. lol then why are you watching this podcast homie?
@@btvschosen2022 wut lol I love the show. I've watched like 50× 😆
@@elysia.. you said who cares to my comment 🤷🏽♂️ the people watching the podcast is the short answer
Woooof this podcast keeps showing me more and more why Lauren needed to cut Heidi off as a friend.
Exactly, Heidi picked fake TV over her friendship with Lauren. Once you get that kind of fame, everyone wants to use you. Heidi was NO different!
Exactly, but now on this podcast Heidi wants to convince us she “really hated having to film and be around Lauren”, dawg we literally watched you beg and beg Lauren to bring you back in her circle even using Stephanie and Holly to desperately get back in her good graces.
Same. She’s still performing and in denial. I’m sure a ton of it was fake and we don’t know what really happened but clearly something did and it’s funny hearing her say there’s no reason they shouldn’t be friends 😆
I’m on Lauren side. I still think Spencer did that about the rumor about a sex tape about Lauren and Heidi went along with it because she was in a relationship with him and also married him and Spencer did that because he hated Lauren. I forgive Heidi now.
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this feels like revisionist history because if y’all knew that Spencer was orchestrating drama and then the sex tape drama happen, of course lauren was right about not trusting or being protective over Heidi. like hearing that Spencer was doing all that is a little messed up.
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Yeah was pretty clear Lauren didn't agree to any of that. And good on her for not agreeing to that kind of stuff.
Came to the comment section to see if Heidi is STILL bashing Lauren and trying to shift the narrative to make herself look good before even bothering with watching this and confirmed what I suspected 🙄 thanks for helping me not waste my time by watching this y’all
So y’all are gonna act like Spencer didn’t punch that one guy that dated Stephanie? Was that him “producing?” Lol
Cute Frankie always sticking up for Lauren 😌
I like how Frankie defends Lauren when they try to come at her.. 👏
Yes he is the nicest 🎉🎉🎉🎉 team Frankie
He’s the only one that tries to share another perspective!!! And share where she could be coming from. He’s a real one
Wait, so Spencer came on the show to purposefully mess with Heidi to get on the show for fame and clout. He used Lauren’s show as a vehicle to be famous by stirring up drama with Lauren and Heidi. Then started and spread an awful rumor about Lauren…and Heidi wonders why Laurent didn’t like Spencer???
They’re slow lol
This has officially turned into let’s bash Lauren” podcast . Love the pod cast but even it being Lauren’s fault Heidi decided to not be friends with Adriana that’s a stretch
This show is so one sided. Can Heidi just clarify that she was the opportunist and befriended Lauren to be on a show. (Laguna Beach)
according to heidi, she had noooooooo idea who lauren was, and lauren was suuuuuch a loser, that she felt bad for her, and became friends out of pity 😂😂😂😂
Heidi's ex boyfriend daid in this samenshow that Heidi had told him back then she wanted to be more famous than Kristin Cavallari and basically that's why she befriended Lauren.
@@steevenhyde3505it’s also so interesting that she said ‘more famous than Kristen’… not ‘more famous than Lauren’. When she was friends with Lauren, and both girls were equally ‘famous’ at the time.
Makes me think that she already jealous of Lauren and subconsciously trying to tear her down
Heidi makes herself the villain. Her stories don’t add up. I see right through her BS.
I think that’s the point of the show, because the Hills was so one sided. Everybody’s storyline was surrounding Lauren’s. This podcast gives these individuals the opportunity to express their feelings of what was going on behind the scenes back then. Literally, exactly what the fans have been asking for years!
For those of you wanting a watch a better recap of the series, Whitney Port and her husband Timmy do a way better job than whatever the heck this is.
With the exception of Frankie, the constant digs at Lauren aren’t it.
The only thing I got out of this was validation that Heidi cared more about fame than she did her friendship with Lauren.
That's a reaction channel and this is podcast ..LOVE Whitney and tim but Ur insane .. they've taken plenty off jabs and mocked the cast the whole way thru ..these guys aren't even mocking they're just telling stories from their perspective.. but whit n Tim have done the same
This was hard to watch. Your backing up Spencer for using Lauren for TV!!! She was way too mature for you guys. I stand with Lauren way more now. Heidi choose TV over Lauren during that time and now you want that friendship! No way!
Frankie is my favorite. I’m starting to REALLY dislike the rest. None of them take accountability they blame everything on Lauren but don’t ever take accountability to their wrongs too.
The difference with Jason was that he was still a good guy that everyone liked but was an awful bf. Spencer is just a d bag with d bag vibes. I wish Lauren was on to defend herself. You all would be nowhere without her.
Lmao Audrina is low key a mean girl. People over look it cause she's beautiful. Over it
I’ve never really been a fan of hers…. I find she hides a lot of who she is and I’ve noticed since Heidi joined this we see a different side of Audrina then we have
She is like a sneaky mean girl. Very quiet and always talks with a nice, sweet tone. She acts oblivious to things and clearly just forms what she's gonna say off of the person she's talking to at the moment. I garuantee if Lauren were to call her, she would agree with Lauren's side the way she is doing with Heidi.
not that it would have ever happened, but say instead of Heidi coming as a co-host, Lauren did, Audrina would be siding with Lauren and calling Montag out for all the sh1t she did, saying she was a bad friend, and totally defending LC
@@philip_logan yes 100%
@@philip_logan absolutely she would be….
Heidi admitting to doing anything for the sake of the show proves she befriended Lauren to get on TV.
Season 1 Heidi was so genuine but once Spencer entered her life everything changed.
she is genuine as fck now too. you just dont like what she has to say. seems Lauren was the one not genuine. When friends dont do what she wants she alienates them. Thats a control freak. Maybe good for business but its not good for friendships hence why Lauren seems to have few friends. Heidi literally says she went the extra nine yards to appease Lauren on/off camera but it was never enough.
@@en6278Lauren is very private about her life so you can’t speculate on her as friend or how many friends she has. Lauren also has admitted to being too controlling of her friends in the Hills look back special.
Heidi can’t own up to her involvement of the rumor or the real reason she became friends with Lauren. Her and Spencer would do anything for extra screen time which is great for TV. If you watch season 1 until the ending of the show, you can see Heidi had changed.
@@hayerickson4361 she has changed like everybody changes in those years. all from the show have changed. but she still seems the same girl even now just 15 years wiser & older. The fact she is still with spencer in itself proves she hasnt changed . Laurens the one who has had different men. who cares how she became friends with Lauren? why wouldnt she wanna be on a TV show? that doesnt mean anything. They both became friends cause of the tv show that works both ways. Heidi was always subservant to Lauren & Lauren exploited it thinking she could control her. She made Heidi choose between Spencer & her. Heidi chose love as she should.
Agreed. Everyone bashing Lauren cause she tried to not look silly and be controlled as little as possible by producers all while complaining that they were manipulated by producers and how uncomfortable that made them. They just sound kinda jealous that she kept who she was close and didn’t let them in for fame.
@@jessicahuntington erm what? Lauren played along just like they did. The delusion. all the jason stuff. all the Brody stuff. do any of these people seem bitter to you they sit there laughing about it every episode. They are having fun about it all. Does Lauren even have any friends? I dont think she even speaks to Lo anymore. She is teh one who cant be chill about the shows & let bygones be bygones. They were all like 20 at the time so why would you hold grudges?
Frankie trying to be neutral. You can see he’s a little uncomfortable with the Lauren bashing.
Because his her true friend and .. his gonna make sure it’s not putting dirt on her name .. a couple of low blows ant nothing to Frankie when the line is crossed gonna check whoever that’s why we love and respect Frankie forever.. and will take his word over anybody on this podcast !
Yes the only real one is Frankie team Frankie 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Anyone else sick of Heidi making out that Spencer was some genius producer when in reality he was just a douche bag and they are now desperately trying to make him look like he wasn’t 🙄
Exactly. Spencer is being labeled as a ‘genius’ when planning out drama for the show but then they label Lauren as a ‘fake, calculated, controlling, and manipulative’ person when she does the exact same thing. Such a childish, classless bunch. They never changed.
It's actually internalised misogyny...when a woman is labelled as "cold and calculating", while a male is "genius" for exhibiting strategic behaviour.
@@santi0089 exactly! You said it better than I did.
@@santi0089Brody said the same thing on previous podcasts about Lauren. She was calculated and wanted control of her self image on TV, but Spencer is a master producer from the famous show he produced with Brody…😂 Princes of Malibu which nobody ever heard of or watched. I looked it up and it aired 6 episodes and then got cancelled 😂😂😂
I would have so much more respect for Heidi [and spencer] if they simply took ownership for their behaviour during the hills. Real or not, they acted like complete a**holes but continue to point the finger at everyone around them. King and queen of gaslighting
I’m not buying Heidi’s story of her and Spencer orchestrating the night he went out with other girls. I think Heidi goes with that story because she didn’t want to look like she got played. I think spencer got to use the show as an excuse for his bad behavior. Like ya I brought playmates to the club but it was all for the show. And whether the sex rumor was all for the show or not if your BF did that,Lauren definitely had a right to not want to have anything to do with both of you.
Lauren was like that because Spencer was a sleazeball
Yesss can she defend him anymore
Seems like Lauren made the right choice based on how Heidi continues to shade her. You always know who a person is when they don’t get what they want…
Surprised that Brody decides to bash Lauren calling her a bad jealous friend. Wow.
So this show is “Was it real” but there’s little reveal of what is real from Audrina or Brody. Heidi is doing good at spilling some tea. Can they answer a simple question: who knew back then about these fake scenes by Heidi and Spencer?????? Heidi did you tell Lauren? Answer this. If you didn’t tell her then it is Obvious why she didn’t support your relationship.
They like to ask Heidi “what did Lauren think” or “what did she say” but that’s still heresay. Why don’t they ask Heidi what she said to Lauren. It’s an obvious question whether or not Lauren knew about these fake scenes.
Audrina had no idea back then and has no idea now. She brings nothing new to the table.
audrina pretends to know nothing, cuz she's a snake herself
Absolutely! Knowing whether Lauren knew about the fake scenes is a pretty important part of the story. If she didn’t, then Heidi is an asshole and would definitely make your friend not like your boyfriend much.
As we know, they are picking and choosing the questions that actually come on the show from fans.
I feel like Heidi isn’t telling the truth about these “ fake scenes”
@@bobibates792 that is certainly a possibility. It would make sense for her to want Spencer to not look as bad.
@@justicefor-all3129 if she was really Lauren's friend, she would have warned her. She knew Spencer was horrible but was so in love with him
Honestly after these two episodes I’m done listening to this podcast. Heidi has already ruined this show. And its funny how Audrina is being a mean girl and throwing digs at Lauren knowing Heidi is gonna back her up.
Remember the episode where they mentioned Jason not liking Heidi from the get go.
Why is Audrina playing along with this narrative that Heidi was jus following Lauren’s orders in not being her friend?
She's always been a lemming.
I think this episode was one the best so far. The last few were really talking Lauren down, I hope they continue to be being real, but respectful. There is a way to talk about what happened without shaming someone. It is uncalled for and tasteless. Good job guys!
It’s obvious Audrina hates Lauren the most. She’s always the first one to talk crap about her, and it seems like she’s manipulating the conversation. Love that Frankie defends Lauren.
And Audrina is acting like she wasn’t on Lauren’s side during all of that…smh. 🙄
Lauren was supportive of your first TV boyfriend. He wasn't a clout chaser like Spencer or using her to get on TV. She had every right to be protective!
So Heidi was supposed to bow down to Lauren and break up with Spencer? No one should have control over who you date, not even your mother. They can give you advice, but what kind of friend gives an ultimatum like that? LC was a bad friend.
You clearly said Spencer used you guys for TV. Lauren had her guard up around him. Rightfully so!!! I wouldn't want my bestie with him etheir. Especially when no one else was playing his game!
They’re literally sharing the reasons why she had every right to not trust him. He wasn’t genuine. He was manipulative and calculating. He just wanted to be famous. They’re saying all of this. So why wouldn’t she not want to be around him?
Heidi and Audrina talk so much crap about Lauren. But this show was supposed to be about Lauren and her journey. It’s not her fault Heidi and Audrina were clout chasers and decided to turn the narrative of the show because they so badly wanted to be known. I’m unsubscribing after this episode. You are GROWN women with kids and you still choose to bash Lauren 15 years later. So pathetic
They could've an wonderful show but is too one sided. They keep dragging Lauren and Whitney. They could twll their side of their story without focusing so much in hating Lauren. Wasn't there a clip somewhere of the Max guy hanging out with Lindsay Lohan and also with the people from the Bling Ring?
It’s like the rejects tried to recreate the show, it gets cancelled so now they get together, make a podcast, and still try to live off Lauren’s name. This is so one sided!
how so? lauren chose to stop after the wedding. how can they be the rejects when they had the hills; new beginnings for two seasons? how is it one sided when lauren can defend herself at any point? i dont think lauren has hate in her heart for anything. i dont think she cares tbh.
@@elysia.. It's very one sided as we are hearing alot about Lauren but not from Lauren, so they should just avoid making judgement on how they think she felt and just focus on their own storylines
@@val9893 well they were all friends with her at one point. They knew her back then ..
@@val9893 of course not. im not saying that.
Lauren was a HUGE part of the show… of the episodes, and in turn, of their lives at this point in time. It would be impossible to speak about what was happening in these moments without them talking about lauren as well, as she was a part of them.
I don't really blame Lauren for getting annoyed with Spencer and Heidi, she was very clear on how she wanted to build her image to have a career in the fashion industry. This was a show that followed her life in L.A. and Spencer did everything in his power to take over and make it a show about Spencer and to create all this fake drama. I'm not saying he shouldn't take advantage of the situation to reach his goals but it's very understandable Lauren wouldn't be happy about it. She felt betrayed by Heidi.
Heidi is so full of it. I would believe her more if she would own up to what she did to Lauren instead of painting Lauren and the bad guy. Sounds like everything is Lauren’s fault and they would be still be friends . But she’s blaming them not being friends on her
Spencer did change the Hills but he did take it a little to far. People fell in love with Heidi when she was being authentic. I think her and Spencer would of been better off showing more of their authenticity
I’m looking forward to Heidi talking about when her & Spencer lost the plot & got kicked off the show. Spencer showing up to the finale dressed as an old man and security removing him 😂☠️
I’m sure all of that will somehow be Lauren’s fault too!
Shoutout Frankie! I seen him last weekend handing out drink coupons for some club… still on the grind! Salute
I'm surprised so many people found Spencer entertaining. I always thought he was boring and acted like a child. It was cringe. Later in the seasons I would fast forward his parts.
Same, I hated his TV time. Way to fake. Clearly they used lauren for TV. She had every reason to want nothing to do with them.
I just can’t believe they are praising his toxic behavior and identifying it as protective, honestly…i would want to sink into the ground if somebody who i know behaves like this in public. But of course he was just producing for TV. Keep forgetting…😂
daaaaaaaamn, heidi you really miss ur friend huh
Huge respect to Frankie for defending Lauren.
Lost all respect for Heidi and Audrina. Ultimate mean girls.
Audrina is two faced to Lauren and Heidi both it is annoying as hell
The fact that they all acknowledged that Spencer’s sole motivation behind the way he was to the point where it hurt Heidi and her relationships with other people just for fame and money. But don’t see an issue with any of that especially with the part where Heidi keeps trying to put her falling out with Lauren on Lauren even though she openly admits that Spencer’s behaviour was the reason why they had a falling out. This is all stuff we already knew they just think that if they don’t accept reality in form that everybody sees as it’ll change peoples opinions of them.
Now I’m wondering how they are going to blame Lauren for why they all hooked her childhood friend Jen and Brody up? 🙄 smh that you all are sitting there bashing her like she wasn’t the reason for the show and why you have a podcast even now. 100% I watched because of Lauren. PERIOD. I’m pretty confident most of the hills already had fans before it aired because of Lauren from Laguna Beach.
The Lauren bashing is too much! The difference between the Jason and Spencer situations is Heidi would literally make plans with Lauren and cancel and Spencer was a complete ASSHOLE to Lauren Jason was never mean to Heidi
And also Lauren was so supportive of Heidis first tv boyfriend!! Because he wasn't using them for fame.
Heidi is ridiculous. Lauren had every right to not want Spencer present in the circle or on the show. Because Spencer and Brody even admitted the actions to getting on the show were very calculated. Obviously Spencer genuinely loved and still loves Heidi of course. But it def started out very orchestrated.
Why isn’t this podcast called “Lauren-bashing by Heidi & Audrina”?
Personally, I appreciate authenticity. I don’t respect people like Spencer and Heidi, who would sell their souls for ratings and a paycheck. Gross.
This podcast makes me hate Audrina and Heidi. They are definitely the mean girls and trouble makers. And Brodi doesn’t defend Lauren at least Franki does
The Hills did NOT put Playboy and playmates on the map 😂 ffs
Foreals that’s exactly what I thought!
These people are DELUSIONAL
The narrative that Heidi & Spencer agreed on all these storylines from the beginning is such bullshit lol
That drunk scene makes me LOL. So clearly wasted 😂
Both of them. Lol. Heidi looked like she was going to start laughing.
can you show the "you know what you did!" episode?
Lauren cut Heidi off because of the sex tape rumors. That’s what truly spiraled their friendship. Heidi never owned up or apologized for that. That was on her and Spencer not Lauren.
God i can say officially i hate this podcast with the Lauren bashing. Im done with it. And all of this centering on Heidi...
Frankie is perfect for this kind of podcast. He shares two perspectives and tries to see situations from both sides. The rest of them …. I got nothing to say lol. Just giving bitterness
Heidi just stays in this state of denial with Lauren. Its scary to watch how she takes no responsibility or accountability for her supporting the man who pushed the sex tape rumor out into the public. Thats unforgivable and all her and Spencer talk about is loyalty lol.
Yaaaaaas lunchtime at work and I have my favorite podcast to watch 🥰
I feel like they are making Lauren out to be this control freak. It seems like to me Heidi was complaining alot of Spencer and isn't fessing up to that.
Spencer came off as a douche. Im sure thats what Lauren saw.
Plus Audrina was a new friend. New friends don't always tell you the truth.
Acting like Spencer "made" the show with all his fake drama, I personally wanted to see a bunch of girlfriends party around LA & work in a world I'd never personally see/experience, I personally didn't like the constant tension & drama :/
I keep watching hoping this gets better.. but it doesn’t.
Same 🙄
You guys are toxicccc. The Lauren bashing is vile. There wouldn’t have been a show to be on without her or are we forgetting?
No, Frankie The Hills did not put the playboy's bunny on the map.😂😂😂. Everybody was aware of the playboy bunnies since the 50s
Thank you!!! Frankie thinking that was so cringey 😂
I LOVE THE NEW SET UP
Heidi said "there's a lot to unfold in this episode," which made me think of Moira Rose and David Rose from Schitt's Creek trying to un-fold the cheese
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Heidi and Spencer are two Hollywood absorbed, fame obsessed people that found each other. Not surprised they go to bat for each other and don’t see the red flags in their behaviours. Perfect match honestly
"or the best talker on the bed?" lmaooooo
You guys should really interact with people in the comments and get more personable. I think it would help this channel a lot.
They won’t though, because the comments are 95% negative
Why are they pretending the sex tape rumor never happened?
Whyy allll the shit comments and narrative about lauren?? She literally doesnt talk about any of these ppl..im sure things were done on both sides..but to them its all lauren...sad
Heidi wouldn’t have been on this show and known if it wasn’t for Lauren
New set look… fun :)
“I don’t trust Spencer but I do trust that Spencer likes you…” Another great assessment from Lauren before the storm.
Yes Frankie, Lauren was protective of Heidi because they were best friends. And she wanted her friends to be with good guys and not snakes. But sometimes we do not realize at the time that our “friends” are snakes too.
Audrina… tap into your memory bank and bring some more substance back to the podcast.
Audrina says that if Lauren would have just been there as a friend for Heidi that they would still be friends. Then says that Lauren was a good friend to her. 😂😂😂
Heidi has to stop lying. So the whole club scene, you crying and calling out Spencer was planned on your end with Spencer? And Lauren would have had no reason to stop liking Spencer or being protective of you? You have been a snake all along like Spencer (well this is likely true as others have said)?
No surprise that the true “drama” of Heidi disliking Audrina stemmed from Spencer. Spencer talking shit on Audrina, Audrina saying to watch out for Spencer, and Heidi not knowing which of them to believe. So, I see why Lauren would be leery of both Audrina and Spencer at this time in support of Heidi. And very happy that Lauren sorted things out with Audrina and brought her back into the mix of the show.
I remember seeing Max on another reality TV show. That exchange with him and Spencer was so corny. 😂Typical doofy LA guys who are not going to throw hands, and I guess for Spencer to have a TV moment. 😂
Awww, Lauren and Brody cuteness 🥰 That hug and greeting at the club was so 😍 You can see how much Brody likes Lauren. But I understand why Lauren was only going to have a friendship with Brody… and I’m happy they did have a good friendship.
But this eppy truly opened up what a “sucky person” Spencer is. You could see that Lauren liked Spencer and didn’t have a full on reason or facts to not trust him on her end. Then… the reason and facts for disliking him were presented right in front of her… and piled on from there. Talking about naked picnics after telling Heidi you are all about her. I wouldn’t like him for My best friend either.
It’s funny listening to Brody speak on how Spencer creates scenarios for the show. No surprise but proof on why people did not like him and knew that his brand was toxic.
I give people chances too, until they show who they truly are- then you can’t defend them. It is obvious that Spencer is a clout chaser like Heidi said. And that Heidi never had a mind of her own. Both are very disingenuous. I see why it became difficult for the entire cast to film with the two of them.
The clips you guys show are good and counters much of what comes out of people’s mouths :)
Glad all the commenters here know what’s up. 😅 Such hate.
Don’t like it then don’t listen. This was their lives… So there’s that
And Heidi wonders why Lauren didn’t want her dating Spencer? Not because he was a bad boyfriend but bc he’d make the show messy. Heidi literally says Spencer had a vision for the show aka Lauren’s show. I’m sure she knew what would happen.
When I rewatched season 2 I saw that Heidi Lauren friendship was falling apart even before the sex tape rumour . Getting upset that Heide isn’t making time for her and being unfair by making her choose . Then I thought maybe Lauren didn want to be friends with Heide and it was a way for her to get out
Justin to this day says he was never with Audrina
Let’s not forget that Lauren was actually mad at Spencer for the sex tape thing. She wasn’t jealous or controlling, she was betrayed and couldn’t get past it!
Put it this way...Lauren has been on Whitney's youbtube and also Stephen & Kristins. I can't see her coming on this because they keep slating everyone. Not a good look.
I like it. Keep it coming team.
3:31 why did y’all do Hedi like that 😂😂😂
Does anyone else find it very strange that a lot of time passed with the three girls being friends again after their moment of hating Audrina and none of them ever discussed the reason they were so mad at her? And I'm not meaning discussing it on the show, but in real life, they never said why? Audrina never pushed for a reason as to why?
It is a little too unbelievable that Audrina is just now finding this information out as to why they stopped talking to her, just out of the blue....they had never discussed this after they became friends again? ... Neither Lauren nor Heidi ever told Audrina the reason they just stopped talking to her.... and not even just stop talking to her, but hated her?
I am sure all of us viewers can get a small, general idea of Lauren's personality, not only from watching the show, but also what her fellow co-stars say, .... she is not likely the type of person that would all of a sudden get over something like her friend and co-star (Audrina) hooking up with Jason. That does not sound like something Lauren would all of a sudden move on from and just be friends as if it never happened.
Now it certainly would make sense, if she were to find out that this rumor was not true, but then her and Heidi would obviously tell Audrina they were sorry and were wrong to have treated treated her the way they did and of course follow up the conversation with the reason they were wrong.
I also feel the producers would have privately told Audrina the reason the girls were not talking to her, especially once Audrina was ready to quit the show over it.
100%. Which is exactly why we know that Heidi is lying 😂
Also there’s no way producers wouldn’t have run with that storyline. A love triangle between Lauren (the star), Jason (her famous ex) and Audrina? Ratings gold. A love triangle between two lesser characters (Heidi and Audrina) and some guy no on had ever heard of (Spencer)? Not so exciting lol
HEIDI KNOWS WHY LAUREN DOESNT WANT HER AND SPENCER ON HER SHOW BC OF THE SEX TAPE RUMOR! YET SHES PLAYING VICTIM AND MANIPULATIVE, STEPPING ON LAUREN TO MAKE HERSELF LOOK INNOCENT, SPREADING NEW RUMORS AND MOST OF ALL, SPEAKING ABOUT SECRETS LAUREN ONCE TRUSTED HER WITH. YIKES HEIDI HAS NOT GROWN AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.. LAUREN SHOULD SUE
I watched the hills when it first came out and I related a lot with Lauren then. I’ve change quite some like I’m sure she has too, but I was really protective of my friends. I was very honest and would call out any bullshit I saw from their boyfriends similar to Lauren. I thought that’s what a good friend was then. Now I know that my friend just wanted someone to vent to. I had some girl friends that would vent about their guy but would never take my advice. After a while, I would get tired of it and start resenting my friend’s boyfriend. My friend would then go tell their boyfriend what I said to them in private and it would cause a lot of strain on our friendship. I feel that’s what happened between Lauren and Heidi. Heidi would vent to Lauren about Spencer. Lauren being very protective started to dislike Spencer and tell Heidi he wasn’t good for her. Then Heidi would go to Spencer and tell him Lauren didn’t approve of him. I think that’s why Spencer started to dislike Lauren and call her controlling when in fact she was just trying to be a good friend. I learned my lesson and now I don’t get involved. If my friend wants to be with a tool that’s on them. I’ll listen but try not to make any opinions. It’s kind of a shame, but I got so over it because then you’re the one who looks bad for just trying to be a good friend 🤷♀️
I've been in the same situations and all you can do as a friend is be supportive of whoever your friends choose to be with. You can give advice and let them vent to you but you CANNOT tell someone who to be with! LC is a bad friend for that and I'm so glad Heidi and Spencer are still happily together with 2 kids.
Heidi seems bitter that Lauren was the star and it was her show. She’s also mad Lauren followed her dreams and is worth 40 million now. She’s to successful to be online recapping a scripted show. Lmao. Poor Heidi all them faces and still can’t find a good one 😂
You guys definitely did not inspire playboy their show came out in 2005 ish
True. Laguna may have been an influence, though. I think they had the same production company?
@@ct6852 I don’t think so. The Girls Next Door was on E and Laguna Beach was on Mtv..
@@909gal Maybe it was The Real World. Bunnam/Murray I think?
This is my favorite season two episode of the hills
Frankie is a good friend. Love him.
I enjoy this podcast with the addition of Heidi. The only comment I have it that Frankie become a little more polished in asking and answering questions. He seems nervous/uncomfortable and stumbling/fumbling over his words.
I can’t get over this show being so fake/staged I was so invested as it was on
Whitney Port and her husband Timmy have done recaps that are wayy shorter than these and are so funny and real.
Has heidi said anything she did wrong with the friendship with Lauren?? Im sure lauren did shit but..im sure heidi did to.
There’s no way that Heidi and producers didn’t know he was going to say inappropriate things about Heidi. Because if not that guy would’ve been fired for sexual harassment. Something doesn’t add up.
Every time they mention Spencer take a drink. We would be wasted and it’s only 8 min in.
That seemed like a set up situation for sure.
So the girls that store was actually on for the hills, and I think it started filming even before the hills
Heidi: Spencer basically is a genius and is the reason The Hills was succesful.....She's deluded!
I will say last season on this channel the ad reads were horrendously cringe but you stepped it up.. you could put a little more effort in though, just some criticism
This is irrelevant really but Audrina looks even more gorgeous than she did back in the day
Also everyone in the comments is always like "Boo hoo they're so mean to Lauren." Lol. She had an amazing edit throughout both her shows and I think it's fascinating to hear the production aspect of Spencer's presence. Like of course Heidi is gonna dunk on her! You don't have to give it credibility but c'mon, the whole show was anti-Heidi to an extent.
I’m a huge Lauren fan but I’m not a Lauren fan when it came to how Lauren treated Heidi. I feel there’s not denying lauren was hypocritical and unfair to Heidi at times. Their relationship started to really fall off when Heidi quit school, there was definitely tense building up after that… & this was all before spencer. When lauren learned Heidi got a man’s she seemed supportive but quickly started to despise him… sure in the beginning moments he fked up however he tried to make it right , Heidi would take him back … Heidi as a right to learn from her mistakes like Lauren did with Jason. All I see is Heidi trying to make effort balancing him and her, Spence was even trying to get lauren to like him… however I think it gets to the point of someone just keeps giving ultimatums, not being accepting, not trying …. That makes you give up. I don’t blame spencer for giving up on lauren, he can’t force her. At a point the friendship got not fixable. So when he started doing actually grimey shit , I think it was just to help Heidi & Spence stay on the show at that point … lauren clearly wanted them off but their “plan” worked so they got to stay. I don’t agree with the schemey shi at all but I see why they did it from their own Perspective.
OK Heidi no one supports your. Your an opportunity and wanted to be the star
Where’s the puppy!!!!!
"Oh how does Spencer feel about Lauren these days does he love her?" ... Ummm he SHOULD love her, her and her show made him who he is today!!
I don’t understand why bring Lauren up every time - Frankie was saying ..him and Hillary girls were friends good friends - just because Lauren dated someone they knew what makes it messy . There was probably no overlap - 🙄