Greg Gagne - Why Eric Bischoff Fired Me from WCW
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2024
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Former AWA star/promoter and WCW agent Greg Gagne discusses his time at Ted Turner's WCW (World Championship Wrestling).
Future WCW boss Eric Bischoff got his start for Verne Gagne's AWA years prior as a broadcaster. Greg says he was the one who recommended Eric for a job in WCW.
Gagne also reveals that he was the one who told Eric Bischoff to get Hulk Hogan and actually helped set the original deal up, not Ric Flair. Greg says that recommended that Bischoff buy the AWA so it could go head to head with WCW.
We'll hear why Greg suggests that Eric stole his invasion angle and used it to create the NWO vs WCW. This is a very interesting perspective - Gagne tells it all up to the date that Bischoff fired him.
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Vince stolen. Wrestlers
Greg and Eric telling Jim Ross his style of announcing wasn't gonna work for a national audience 😂
Ross sucked, overrated bore he was.
I never liked jim Ross either.
He toned it down when he got to the WWE.
Jim Ross is Annoying and even Vince Fired him. He sucks.
Ross has always been trash, he gets a pass because he was apart of the Attitude era.
Had the pleasure of talking to Greg and Jim and Vern and a few others from AWA in 75 , 76 , Greg and Jim and Vern all down to earth guys treated us really nice never would the not take time to talk and hang around the dugout that they came out of . Now Billy Robinson was a snob . Thank you Greg .
He’s almost as old as Verne was the last time Verne was AWA Champion.
His idea about wcw buying and bringing back 2 dead companies the awa and nwa in the mid 90's sounded dreadful.
It did, but keep in mind 1994 the wrestling business was pretty, so a shot in the arm could have been intriguing.
Yeah but he basically laid out the entire NWO vs WCW angle which Bitchoff supposedly came up with on his own.
I don't think Greg Gagne is throwing anybody out of any windows, brother.
Bischoff's karate training or not I believe that Greg probably could have done it ! 💪
@@MrManflyGreg couldn't throw himself out of a window.
@@Jewish.Redneck.Hybrid Billy Robinson trained Greg. Don't be fooled by his looks.
@@MrManfly Bischoff had fake teeth for a reason.
@@gopherstate777whoa whoa whoa
Greg gagne stories are the best. Hearing his version of the truth is awesome.
Greg invented truth.
"I knew it was over the moment I saw Bischoff trying to be talent sitting on a motorcycle doing a 20 minute promo." -King Kong Bundy.
The one great thing about Bischoff, is he can teach you how to overheat a territory, then collapse it and drive everyone out of business. Same with Vinny Mac, Russo and Cornette. Now you know why nobody legit wants anything to do with these people. They are bad bets. Always. Though that may be turning the corner soon enough.
@@TheCaptainSlappy shut up
@jwzero Eric bitchoff ruined WCW along with Vincent Russo.
Greg told Google about UA-cam. 😂
Greg Gagne's outlandish stories makes Hulk Hogan jealous!
The way he talks you’d think he was the smartest guy in wrestling 😆
@@dalegreening6476 you would be too if you had the power of a bottle of Jack and Hindsight 20/20
@@m8x425 can’t argue with that 👍🏼😆
Yeah? Your grammar makes me puke.
What i get from this dont share your ideas or use your gifts for any company until you first protect yourself.
It sure is a good thing Greg told Jim Ross how to be an announcer! Lol...good call Greg
And Greg was right. Ross came into the WWF way toned-down.
WWF wrestlers hated Ross when he first went up there. He had to make adjustments.
wwe didn't want jim ross anymore and treated him horribly at the end. where's the call out on them
Good call on the Jim Ross critique Gregory
I hope Greg Gagne reads these comments. I grew up in Minnesota and there was nothing, absolutely nothing better than the AWA and All-Star Wrestling. It meant so much to everyone, my dad, my uncles, all my family we would never miss it. We saw matches in Long Prairie, Alexandria, and St. Cloud. The Crusher was amazing. Mad Dog Vuchon. We loved Nick Bockwinkle, Super Destroyer, Baron Von Rascke, and the women enjoyed Renee Goulet. Pro-Wrestling was more popular than the Twins or the Vikings all because of Verne Gagne and of course Greg. Your product was far superior to anything coming out of any other city. The WWF, WEF or whatever...They were all the minor leagues. AWA was absolutely the best, and provided wonderful memories for an entire generation. The AWA was a national treasure.
Greg's ideas were terrible. Hogan vs Karelin? That would not draw a dime in the 90s. Nobody cared about USA vs Russia at that point. That's Rocky 4. That's 80s. The wall had come down, Soviet Union was dissolved, Cold War was over.
90s was grunge rock and gangsta rap, Beavis & Butthead, Jerry Springer. Nobody cared about AWA or NWA by then either. Those were dead brands. Why try to revive old and dead things instead of building something new? That's why nWo worked. It was fresh, edgy, dangerous. It gave Hogan a much needed second chapter in his career and it made WCW cool for the first time ever.
Eventually it got watered-down through bad creative, but when nWo was at its peak there was nothing else like it. If Greg had his way WCW would've gone out of business just like AWA, without ever having that mid-to-late 90s boom period.
And without that competition from WCW we might never have seen the Attitude Era in WWF/E.
Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story
Mike Graham in an interview said almost exactly the same thing about Eric. Almost to the letter. Eric always seemed slimy and the way he treated the honky Tonk man was just despicable. I have to give him credit however for the NWO and all that jazz. He really changed the business and challenged Vince and for a time was winning. I just wish he didn’t have to do it with these ruthless business tactics to his own people.
some people are hard to work with. and Honky Tonk had a serious chip on his shoulder as well. and who was more ruthless than Vince? not a soul.
@@ushireborn the amount of people going back and reflecting negatively on Vince compared to Eric is almost none… a very short list. The difference is that with Vince the general consensus is he was fair whereas Eric was disrespectful and didn’t know how to use the talent. Not my words, these are from many different opinions from people who were there and did videos about it.
One thing about Greg is his story never changes that’s why I believe him
You’re probably right but Greg is a loser compared to his pops who was a legend
That just means he's a consistent liar.
Greg Gagne is an incredible talent. Great technical wrestler
Greg is a great storyteller but he or his dad always came up with everything under his version of events. So Greg gave WCW all these incredible ideas to beat to the WWF and he hadn't even signed a contract with them yet? Then when he finally signed a contract he doesnt even read what he signs? Greg takes credit for Bischoff going to WCW, Hogan going to WCW, the AWA Vs NWA.angle which turned into NWO Vs WCW, among other things. Still fun to listen to his interviews though lol
To be fair to Eric. Ninja suits were really cool at the time. Can't hate on a man for a decent side hustle 🤣
Can't hate on him for having a hustle now but it does show you where he came from and that at the end of the day he's just a pretty face with some sales skills that was able to weasel his way into the business and then weasel his way into a top spot and then do the fake it till you make it but even the fake it part could be construed as hanging onto Hulk Hogan's cocktails and getting lucky with an angle where New York came down to WCW.
Just like John Laurinaitis got a really good gig for a really long time because of his pretty face and nice teeth and politicking
😂😂😂😂
Sonny Onoo was the main designer. Eric just bought the velcro.
@@jamesmiller5331 He certainly faked it on his resume to get the executive VP position back in 1993. Butt brother Jason Hervey was also a help!
@@curthennig9448 and he brought that pretty face that somehow makes grown men buy things
This sums up the Pro Wrestling Industry in a nutshell. What a shame that this industry is so full of 💩 backstabbing people. This bygone era of the business was the most fun to watch when you had territories.NWA,AWA,UWF,WCCW,RIP🙏
Omg head on !
No delusional old second generation buster
Amen ... I know that WWE isn't the only show in town but I wish the Feds would break it up a la they did with ma bell in the 80s. Territories 4 Life baby!😊
@robfraser6908 My mom worked for MA Bell Western Electric in Indianapolis till 1983. When they were declared a monopoly she lost her job. Ronald Reagans trickle down economics hurt many.
Ric Flair said it best; if you can get one real friend out of the wrestling business you are lucky. Look at mean gene's funeral. Supposedly he had so many friends and hardly anyone showed up.
I know greg was sick seeing Eric bischoff work for his daddy then he got power in wcw 😂
Larry Z couldn't believe it either.
@@curthennig9448 😂😂
AWA had a lot of talent and could've had great ppvs but most of them left for money and went with Vince. Especially in the mid to late 80's. Greg's story never changes. I believe there's some truth in it.
there is; lots of WWE loyalists dont like the truth. Bischoff conned his way into the business and had no clue as to what he was doing. He overspent and lied to a lot of people. He screwed over lots of people and he and Russo were comically bad.
Greg has and is a Class Act!
I remember the magazine covers when he and Jim Brunzell were very popular in Wrestling
He still wanted that Hogan merch.
Greg seems like the guy who thought he was getting a date with the cheerleader in high school. Every idea was his, yet he claims he got screwed over every time. Hogan screwed him but he went back to him for more. Eric screwed him and he went right back to him with another idea. Things just don't add up with his stories. Hogan screws him over twice yet HE was the one that was getting him to WCW?
You people peeing on Greg Gagne. He's down to earth and he's honest. He's too good for today's wrestling business and he's a far bigger man then McMahon and bishoff.
Bigger and broker 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
😂😂😂😂 honest? Just like Kevin Nash recently said. During his first run in WCW he was backstage and Gagne walked by and said NWO.
He’s literally a used car salesman. He runs a Hyundai dealership in Bloomington, MN.
Being a bigger man those those two is a pretty low bar to be fair
@@swfcocs1 bigger and brooker
Once when I was a young boy, my family took a road trip out west and spent one night in Amarillo. This was an event of mythological proportions for a young boy. I immediately went to the phone book. It was just a small cow town with a small phone book. I'll be darned if it wasn't full of Funks, Rhodes, and Blackburn's. I stole the phone-book, took it home and showed it to my friends. I treasured that phone book for years.
I heard Bischoff was back into the nija suit business. It's going good! He sold one last month.
Who bought it? Sonny Onoo?
Why or how would Turner give Greg Gagne. 01 of Hogan's merchandising?
Hulk would never agree to it and didn't want to be around him.
Sad part is, he believes this garbage.
Exactly.
It wouldn't take any of hulks cut, only effect the co.s profit. Hulk wouldn't even need to be told.
@rahowherox1177 you think Gagne had Hulk's phone number after 10 years? No one else has mentioned Greg's involvement in bringing in Hulk except... Greg. 😂
@@chairmantroy679 lol Greg is full of s**t, just that part is technically possible and probably happened on genuine deals... Verne an him taking cuts in secret.
Greg had some Hogan shirts left over from the AWA that he wanted to sell at the Arenas.
Bischoff, Graham, Sullivan all say Greg delusional and these stories BS. Which is why i always ignored Meltzer because he was dependant on liars, scammers exaggerating kayfabe wrestlers for his stories😂
Never did work out contracts.
I don't claim to know much about Gagne and all this, but a Hogan vs Alexander Karelin trilogy would have killed WWF in those days? I don't see it, even as weak as the fed was in the new generation era
America vs. Russia in those days...? C'mon man, that would've been huge! Karellin is one of the most impressive physical specimens of the 20th CE. I am honestly upset it didn't happen!
Ric Flair is the guy that got hogan n wcw...according to Ric
Eric's "southern twang" didn't really stand out to me. Maybe it's because I was raised in central Florida and the accent is nothing distinctive to me. It wasn't like Eric was illiterate. The guy was brilliant especially if the humbling story about him being a salesman selling ninja costumes for children before breaking into the wrestling business is true. I assumed Eric was well spoken...which is rather helpful in any sales related business and even more so the main spokesman for the most popular faction during that wrestling era. I'd say he found his niche, because it worked.
He was talking about JR with the southern twang comments, not Bischoff...
Has he ever criticized himself, taken accountability for any of his decisions, or not been screwed on account of his genius? The perpetual victim, always barely within reach of the golden goose.
The headline should read: “why Eric Bischoff hired me in the WCW” lol
Selling ninja suits out of his car. 😂😂
Bischoff was a weasel
He was finished ✅️ ✔️ 😅 when the territory fell you just needed a job...... Bill Watts hired him ...... that explains everything
Bill Watts loved Verne.
Greggy would be selling cars if it wasn’t for his daddy and he’s actually making demands? 😂😂😂😂
How do you even get into the ninja suit business?WTF? 🤠
It was a game for kids called Ninja Star Wars that Eric and Sonny Onoo came up with. You'd throw the stars, and they'd stick to the suits with velcro. They were looking to sell them on the AWA TV show. That's how Eric got his foot in the door there. They put him in their sales department, peddling their syndicated program to TV stations, then made him an announcer when Larry Nelson had his issues.
You must be born mid 80s or later... Ninjas were a big deal in the 80s. I would argue bigger than pro wrestling at times.
@@rahowherox1177 I was there,the 80's doesnt explain how a dude falls to the depths of selling ninja suits out of the trunk of his car.It certainly never crossed my mind to sell ninja suits.
@@masterofreality1552 Bischoff's days in the catalogue were over.
Eric and Greg should be on an updated version of To Tell The Truth. The catch is, the one who tells the truth first blows up. Who you got?
Using a Cornette line, but you couldn't believe either of them if their tongues were notarised.
😂
I would like to see them in a debate with maybe Sean Oliver.
@@gopherstate777 that would be a main event anywhere in the country
I trust Eric Bischoffs version because Bischoff has no reason to lie.
What how he got into the business (AWA) and he used 2 guys that grew up with fathers who ran successful wrestling territories Florida , Minnesota and where did Eric learn his skill set for running a wrestling territory .and how many guys have to say you can't trust him , but yet it's them not him.
Bischoff would confess to lying about his credentials and original ideas . I dare say not! Don't trust a guy who smiles too much.😮
@@robfraser6908 And has false teeth!
Gimme a break asking the gagnes how to compete against the wwf ?
Thats just suicide
People have reputations for reasons, I have NO love for Bischoff, but stories of Gagne’s arrogance and self involvement abound throughout the industry. It’s like when Dusty Rhodes was managing; he’s such a beloved figure in wrestling that no one likes to talk about how he was a booker who routinely screwed wrestlers out of pay. Elevating our heroes to a place where they are infallible and beyond reproach is a mistake, and one I won’t be making. Greg had a great career and seems to be a decent person. He can be all of those things and still make a few mistakes along the way. It’s called “being human”.
And rating went down and it sucked
This does not make any sense. Gagne says that he agreed to work for WCW but ONLY for the incentives. As he said, if the ratings don't go up, "I don't get paid" (2:35). But then he STAYS--for no money--until he later gets fired by Bischoff?! Something's missing here.
Greg was getting a big payday from all of the booking Flair was doing. That contract Greg said he never signed came with some magic beans too, and that usually helps.
Exactly.
A lot of those awa guys didn't have the look and weren't steroided up enough for WWE or wcw... gagne and brunzell, raschke, bockwinkel, crusher and Jerry blackwell... Vince took hogan and the warriors and fired the rest.
This guy is smart. Very creative.
Selling ninja suits 😂😂
One of the best decisions that Eric Bischoff ever made while in charge of WCW!
He tells wcw how to compete with wwe yet his on company is tanking?he tells jr to tone it down and then how many iconic over the top wwe calls did jr make? Genius this guy.
I was thinking the same thing. Especially his main champions Martel, Henning, and Hall went to the WWE. Gagne wanting points at a pay per view seems he thought he was too big for his bretches. Eric probably brought him along as a favor.
In all fairness, the AWA was very entertaining. Vince, however, could outspend them. That's how he took Hogan, Bobby Heenan etc away from the AWA....Bischoff didn't know how to do multiple angles simultaneously. He did come up with the nWo, but ultimately screwed that up too.
Of course as always, everyones version are different & everyone thinks now their plans were sure fire and gonna work. We'll never fully know who said or did what and who came up with what but they all seem to say what was know about Bischoff's experience or lack of and then qhen he got the wcw job. The part of Bischoff's ego and not knowing how to handle the success & not having a plan after the NWO angle got him to number 1.
Even Zbysko had said Bischoff went from riding with him& others in production to wanting to travel and ride with the boys.
Now u see Hogan, as he and Bischoff aren't as close anymore, saying Eric's big mistake was wanting to hang with the boys 😂
Ah yes...X amount of dollars sounds good to me!!!
Funny how Greg Gagne and Mike graham take credit for all these ideas. This guy said Hogan was coming back to AWA in 1991. Really? There goes Gagnes credibility
Hogan was using the AWA as leverage in late 1990.
@@curthennig9448 For what? AWA was dead and on its last breath
@@martifrey3357 I should say the supposed WGN deal. Much like Hogan using the XWF as leverage to return to the WWF in 2002.
Ok now I’ve head 2 people say getting Hogan was “their” idea. Either this guy or Mike Graham were lying. Actually 3 because Eric said it was his all along haha. These people are all flim flam carney trash
Little known fact, Greg convinced the Minnesota timberwolves to draft point guard Johnny Flynn with the 7th pick in the 2009 nba draft just so the golden state warriors could draft a nobody and complete bum from a small school named Stephen curry next.
True story. The Minnesota timberwolves screwed hometown awa out of money in 1989 so Greg knew by telling Minnesota management to take Flynn over curry, he would now finally get the ultimate revenge. Greg as usual wins in the end.
Wait how you tell eric im piss at you n nutvtell him to sign Hogan 😂
His idea of NWA vs. AWA sounds really good. Could knocked off WWF by the sounds of it. Too bad.
there was once a tag team called mr. high mr. low....i would have to have seen.. greg gagne and mike graham ..as a tag team...
Stephanie McMahon is a poor little rich girl. I am sure she is the queen winer.
What I wanna know is where was Greg Gagne working at to say I can’t come there for that, I’m making more than that. Where did Greg work at after his dad’s company went belly up ? You know what the difference between Hulk Hogan’s tall tales and Greg Gagne’s tall tales are ? Nothing ! They’re both the same height. This guy is nothing but a nicer version of Bret Hart. He’s bitter and everything bad happened to him and his dad and they all got screwed every time.
I loved whenever Jim Ross would flip out and get all excited.
The part about getting part of Hogan's merchandise doesn't make sense.
He is lying, Ric Flair was the one who convinced Hogan to come in
But people DID love Jim Ross! He was the voice of the WWE during the Golden Age of the Attitude Era.
He says AWA vs NWA would of been better then NWO vs WCW
If you believe Hogan and Bischoff over Greg Gagne, you are a fool
Greg He still mad Eric got to the level he did .
Listen to eric bischoff... eric seems way more believably than greg gagne
Some how he got hogans number 🤣 dude you never even had it hes not gonna give half of💩
Ed Leslie gave it to him.
I had a contract with Bill Watts but I didn't sign it. Why not? Makes no damn sense.
Way too many holes in his story. He grew in the wrestling business he knew , I'm really not buying into his so called naiveté. This would be plausible if it were coming from someone else. But coming from him, this story just sounds like a lot of bull that's been stretched with bits and pieces of truth.
@@snoplau9994- if he's lying he is a consistent liar. He has made claims about handshake deals in the past.
@emptyhand777 I don't think he's lying completely. But in no way do I think he's being completely transparent, honest, or a hundred.
Hogan already was pissed at the gagnes years earlier from the merchandising and not putting the title on hogan .
Gagne been brainwashed from his old man .give it up kid
Hogan never trusted greg.. he almost didnt sign with wcw becauae of greg
He was why of on jim ross
1:55 making more than that where??? AWA WAS CLOSING AND Gone
Caddie on the golf course and a gopher at Nick Bockwinkel's life insurance company.
I can’t tell who is the bigger fabricator, Paul, Roma, or Greg
So wait they called the guy who just lost everything to Vince on how to beat Vince
He seems kind of full of it $hit
If he was so smart why didn't he save his old mans business lol
Greg your so funny you and your father didn't invent wrestling lol you had to do with hogan going to wcw, WCW vs AWA nobody would have cared if you weren't so selfish trying to revive the AWA you would still have a job. Thank goodness for NWO lol of course your trying to take credit.
Greg’s AWA vs NWA idea was horrible, don’t blame Bischoff for dismissing it
Its funny. Vince has no problem putting his competition out of buiseness , however the second someone tries to do it to him he cries like a baby! This why AEW NEEDS TO SUCCEED.
Greg gagne was a threat. Adios.
Think Bischoff won Greg….maybe you got done dirty but dude ran a wrestling enterprise without any nepotism…get over it
Greg Gagne was the man who pitched the idea of nWo to WCW executives and then Erich Bischoff stole the idea.
Easy e was always trying to screw someone over he is o terrible person
Even the strippers at The Gold Club got screwed by Easy E.
Yeh instead of $ they get nickels lol
this dude always seems bitter
Seems like Greg is a sucker. Russian PPV over WCW / NWO contract? 😂😂😂ok......ok.
Good old Greg is as boring and dry during interviews as he was in the wrestling ring.
This dude is a liar 🤣 Hogan left AWA he would never contact you or even give you 🙄 😒 the time of day
ZZZZZ
Greg is an expert at nothing. He has never accomplished anything on his own. Snakey individual. You can hear It in this interview. He is always trying to make some kind of stupid deal for himself
Worst out of shape wrestler of all time.