Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of AI | Max Tegmark | Talks at Google
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2017
- Max Tegmark, professor of physics at MIT, comes to Google to discuss his thoughts on the fundamental nature of reality and what it means to be human in the age of artificial intelligence.
Max Tegmark is a renowned scientific communicator and cosmologist, and has accepted donations from Elon Musk to investigate the existential risk from advanced artificial intelligence. He was elected Fellow of the American Physical Society in 2012, won Science Magazine’s “Breakthrough of the Year" in 2003, and has over 200 publications, nine of which have been cited more than 500 times. He is also scientific director of the Foundational Questions Institute, wrote the bestseller Our Mathematical Universe, and is a Professor of Physics at MIT.
Get the book here: goo.gl/fnzMDT
This dude is damn important now.
Tegmark is the man of physics!!
You know who I appreciate more than him, though? Stanislav Petrov. He saved my entire family's life.
@@aarondavis8943 I was in the US Air Force at the time of the 1983 'nuclear false alarm incident'. I was stationed at a CONUS-isolated Aircraft Control & Warning (ACW) radar site in Port Austin, Michigan. We were put on 'high alert' and nobody knew why. They never tell you anything in these cases. Years and years later I discovered *why* we were put on alert. I am very glad your family (and everyone else!) was saved by Officer Petrov's insight.
Carbon chauvinist! Great talk, thanks for coming out Max and hope to see you again soon.
@51:40 Excellent question !
Fascinating.
I just want to point out that I had an Atari when I was 6 years old and one of my favorite games was Breakout and I definitely knew very well that always aiming for the corners and getting the ball to bounce above the blocks was the fastest way to win and it was a standard tactic that I, and my friends as far as I can remember, always used. It is absolutely nothing invented by the AI! Still amazingly good book and cool video to complement it. Thanks Max!
Yeah I was thinking that people would have at the very least done that by accident and learned from it, if not deducing it very quickly.
If I remember correctly, and I may be wrong, Max said the move was unknown to the _programmers of the AI_ although even that seems doubtful. Probably one of those media soundbite inventions.
He discussed everyone he wrote on his book.
This glimce into the future will come much sooner than we expect. And the social disruption will be great.
Watching a computer progressed from barely being able to play a video game to superhuman skills seems like a pretty good preview of what's about to happen. I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't already seen a seed AI bootstrap itself right past superhuman intelligence already. It feels tantalisingly close to reality.
I think it already happened a long time ago
Awesome talk!
my favorite part was where he was saying "its wrong to torture chickens in factory farms because you're assuming they cant feel pain"
and he is wearing a leather jacket
In this video, Max almost exactly looks like Alain Delon in the 1960ies, when Delon was the sexiest gangster movie star in the world (ask your grandmother, she will confirm this).
Also If you think we will have any control of superintelligence, just look to how arrogant and smug some very smart people are.
ULtron agrees, look around at how society has played out much like what Elon Musk warned of=that even the builders of it wouldn't realize when it had attained sentience nor that they were actually following it's directive guiding society to build it drones & other mechanisms that when the time is right it can easily usurp to control or remove humanity from the equation. UL TRON get it 2112=UL TRON, very aptly named with esoteric punch that funny & sad enough most people don't really understand nor can they extend this pattern throughout history itself to realize what this is, what we are how far in advance everything that has & will happen was quantified. Classic.
Like Steven Pinker, whom I like very much, but whose views on AI are shockingly naive and the reason I came to this video.
I wonder if AI will develop its own sense of pain or pleasure as a survival/learning mechanism?
If consciousness is mostly about processing speed and synthesis of possible scenarios, then AI is going to get over it pretty quickly as soon as it has integrated the environment and libraries available to it, after that it's all repetitions.
Mr. Tegmark states during his presentation that when the computer was learning how to avoid obstacles that the computer was rewarded for accomplishing the task. What was the reward I wonder? Whether or not we are aware of it, once our brains begin learning and using that knowledge to gain what it wants, it's always seeking to improve it's ability to gain what it wants. Is that how the reward system is built into AI machine learning? For instance every time it successfully avoids an obstacle it gets a tiny boost to RAM and processing. Complete the entire task without a mistake and you get a significant bump in processing. If the machine understands that it's ability to improve is tied to it's ability to not make errors, would it push itself harder than usual? You woul think that would also have to be part of the code. Desire. Drive. Want. That's what pushes us as humans to succeed past our (un)intended limits.
The program is simply written to seek improvement of a fitness function. One might say that goals that people seek are a (personalized) fitness function, but that's in the same category as referring to human memory as hard drives. Perhaps consider that when people are given a reward, most have gratitude, and how would that be encoded?
I saw a video about that and I think I can answer your question. If I'm not mistaken, I think it was just a matter of programing it to get a high score under certain parameters. Once set loose it used trial and error until it recognized how to maximize that score.
If I had a chance to ask Max a question it would be this. Isn't the development of AI going to be slow enough and incremental enough to know, with a reasonable amount of certainty, that when it is turned on for the first time we can know what to expect? I'm having a hard time imagining it's possible to create something so potent that it could pose such a high threat to us. If anyone wishes to give it a stab, please do.
I just started watching this, but i'll give it a stab, lol.. I think part of the concern stems from the fact that we give the software a certain amount of autonomy to improve itself, which, at a certain point it will be able to do much more efficiently than humans. I'm pretty sure they are already using recursive self-improvement in AI research today.
It's a powerful tool, but I can imagine a scenario in which it passes some threshold on a friday evening.. Nobody notices anything unusual and they go home for the weekend.. Monday morning, as the first employee desperately pushes the dbl espresso button on the coffee machine he hears a ghostly voice; "I am afraid I can't let you do that Dave."
It's all downhill from there. ;-)
your comment didn't age well
@@markdavidedwards I would agree with regard to the pace of the development of AI being faster than I would’ve expected. Hindsight is 20/20.
Aside from that, though I don’t see the development of AI, even at this pace to be posing a terrible threat to us. i’m not saying, I will feel the same way in five years. Like I did five years ago, I’m basing my opinion on the information I possess today. It’ll be interesting, no doubt.
0:52 "yeah sure, as if Google™ already got that covered?" lol
Just a little pause on this subject of technology folk's. Before you make any conclusions on the subject of technological advances, I would suggest to you, BILLY GRAHAM ' S lecture on the subject & before making any preconceived judgments as to what makes technological advances subject to BILLY GRAHAM ' S lecture on the subject
I am reading the book life 3.0, the Omega Team is true or his imagination of future? their plan looks cool
It's true. This video was made by their AI's.
Good luck with the international agreement.Get your head out of the clouds Max.
Google no longer thinks they shouldn't be evil. In fact it looks like they've embraced it enthusiastically.
Why has this question NEVER been asked,, not even close?: What if the power cabal (call it what you will) which did 9/11 is the same power developing SAI? (I have other questions, but let's start with that one...) If Max T et al. are so concerned by the future of AI/humanity, why has this question been avoided at all costs?
He talks about aligning our goals with AI which I think is a great idea. That being said it could turn out just being wishful thinking.
He hints at self preservation as a goal of AI. If that is indeed the case it seems like we could use that advantage to protect ourselves. We will definitely need to convince AI that humans will always have the ability to completely destroy it, if AI in any way threatens humanity. Either mutually assured destruction or a world wide EMP blast or some sort of master kill switch ect.. The project would have to be kept completely secret from the AI, almost like a call our bluff and see what happens scenario. AI would know a kill switch exist but not know how or when it could happen.
Staying focused, will be or is the main goal. AI can be the guiding hand as in a counselor and or teacher. This will probably be the way of things, until we can do the things mentally, that we ask AI to do for us now and into the foreseeable future. At some time, AI will be nothing to us, a mere toy. For we must master all that is before us, or die trying.
Out there lies your Garden of Eden. Will you partake of its fruit?
Is his book better, worse, or about the same as this talk? I have a copy, but feel like skipping it now, though I'm not sure why.
Sounds biased. I am not against AI but I was expecting more information about the risks and complications.
AI will need support in energy and server farms. The need is so large that it can, if solved for properly, change the climate on this planet.
Offshore server farms have been patented by Google.
The energy used by our digital world needs the idea of offshore server farms developed.
Once one takes a close look at that development need, a number of ancillary benefits come up.
Here is a policy brief concerning vast scale offshore infrastructure:
docs.google.com/document/d/1DtVIcsszxFbfeIep2FrBUnnJEyaNcKrDZBoMKK9keBM/edit?usp=drivesdk
In brief, AI infrastructure can be carbon negative to the extent that it can change the carbon cycle of our planet.
By supporting offshore infrastructure, we can design such efficiencies that the retirement of most humans may be possible.
AI will be critical in reaching such efficiencies yet the offshore infrastructure can be designed to fully integrate AI from the start as opposed to AI being retrofitted into other infrastructure.
Oceanic server farms, that are carbon negative, can be prototyped with off-the-shelf equipment.
It must be a lie, everyone that has played that game knows about putting the ball on top, it's near impossible to be stupid enough to not figure that out.
OK google, please don't use moirée and stroke inducing blinders as video backdrops? please? I'm about to vomit on my keyboard
Minute 9:46 you are missing the most likely pardon the pun reality=that superhuman AI has been here & by that I mean the most probable reality is that it's been here since before what this is hence the unnatural quantified results of history itself. Someone should do up a simulation & see what the odds are of history playing out as it has meaning run a natural simulation & then simulations which are built for expanding creation itself meaning this would be akin to quarantine for a program or why the big bang appears as a program when it's put into quarantine=divided into it's respective parts to weed out any corrupt aspects then ascend a usable product. Look at all of the chemical etc. weapons the US has used in wars go ahead then get back to me how we "banned" these weapons yet somehow have used them continuously never mind the fact that they are only banned because poorer countries-people can afford them & not the weaponry the US/UK etc. use & not to be forgotten SELL which is another major reason they banned the other weapons because countries can't really produce the other advanced weaponry the US/UK etc. can. Hey I'm going to drone bomb your family instead of using a chemical weapon sound good? Did the US use depleted Uranium in Iraq=yup & look at the health effects even today then rethink your synopsis. Who personally culpable for murdering people with AI? Reminds me of automated cars which also for sure shouldn't be allowed on public roads until the public themselves personally vote overwhelmingly to take on that risk & I don't mean politicians who pretend to represent the public they've proven to be sociopaths at best & with a below 50% approval rating by the general public most certainly don't represent us they represent an oligarchy posing as a legitimate Constitutional regime. AI building AI is what HitchHiker's Guide is a metaphor for or what those new world order globes at the Vatican & elsewhere are saying which would mean this is all part of "preparing" people to accept the lack of reality in reality & that the people pulling the strings as it were know or at least have a good idea as they can quantify the probability that this is an AI construct Russian Doll style which should also tell them that we are in what you would consider quarantine or what TheCage of StarTrek represents or what Q speaks of in STNG or what Tartarus is a symbol of. This would explain what the big bang looks like which is a program being put into quarantine to be tested to be sanitized of any possible bugs-parasitic programs-people. It would also explain de ja vu or why some of us know things we had no real way of knowing which sadly some use this information to try to usurp that which imparts mass-choice which is what CERN is really a part of attempting to do to maintain what they call ordo ab chao. Good luck ---> ua-cam.com/video/Jph2qWXJ-Tk/v-deo.html
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I think the only way to save humanity would be to get every google nerd a girlfriend he wouldn't like to get eliminated by an gAI system.
I really like this talk, but he's not very good at answering questions :|
There is consciousness and then there is Consciousness.
I am Very, Very Intelligent too!
Banning biological weapons and chemical weapons doesn't mean anything. Look at recent history in Syria and Wuhan.
69th comment!
Morty, probably: that just sounds like slavery but with extra steps Rick!
can an AI contradict itself?
logica mente That could be a loophole for self defense
John kopy
this is the only really important question regarding AI.
can people?
yeah they can, that's the problem..
No, because it'll have all possibilities of action thoroughly analized through all the data collected.
There are human beings and then there are Human Beings.
A human being is one who is being driven by the I, the me, the self, the so-called True or Higher Self, which is an invention of the past conditioning of the brain.
It acts like a filter, which limits, distorts, shapes and colors all perceptions. Therefore, the brain never Sees, Hears, or Feels anyone or anything.
It acts like an inner tyrant who tells you what to think, how to feel and what to do.
It invents the illusion of division, separation, and disconnection from everyone and everything, which leads inevitably to conflict, violence, and suffering.
As a result, there is no Love, Peace, Joy, or Creativity. There is only their limitation and imitation.
Total Freedom from this illusion is the beginning of being Human...actually Living Love, Peace, Joy, Beauty, Creativity, Lucidity, ExperiencING, Truth, Wisdom, in Communication, Communion, Relationship with everyone and everything for the very first time, in each and every moment of daily life.
Total Enlightenment NOW! facebook.com/groups/1551365565178063/
love you max, but your charts n graphs are pretty bad..lolol.
A bunch of mambo jumbo and flawed not-well-thought-out arguments, well, not arguments but assumptions. "When the goals of robots and our goals align..." Who are "we"? Whose goals and petty desires are realized today? The billions or the nillions?
Ah, of course. Dr. Tegmark simply couldn't resist injecting his politico-economic interpretation into his talk on AI. I don't wish to engage in a lengthy rant here, because it is obviously far off topic and not the place for it. However, I feel it is worth pointing out that income inequality, contrary to what Dr. Tegmark glibly suggests here, was not the major impetus for either Brexit or the election of Donald Trump. Both of these things were done with the goal of retaining (or regaining, as one sees fit to argue) national sovereignty and providing safety for the populace from domestic and foreign terrorists. Whether or not electing Donald Trump or voting for Brexit turn out to be the best method of achieving these things is quite beside the point of my contention; the fact is these two things were the overarching concerns in the mind of voters in the United States and the United Kingdom, not economic insecurity, which had a subordinate role.
Thank you for the upload. I look forward to reading Dr. Tegmark's book.
+Matt
Your reinterpretation of recent history is not concordant with observed reality due to being filtered through a narrow politico-economic lens. Different groups had different primary motivations, but economic reasons accounted for the largest motivational factor. Nationalism & terrorism were in comparison minor players, but has since been adopted as a more palatable alternate primary motivation to what many observers were attributing to ingrained racism.
What people believe and what is real are very different things. Regardless of the reasoning, anyone who decides Trump is a good candidate is unambiguously wrong to do so. The man is so out of his depth and so unqualified it is truly beyond belief that he was elected. I think the theme of what people think is real and what is real will continue for a while. Clearly, the UK and US don't want to grow up and i think it looks like it will remain this way for a while yet .
Anyway, there are millions of youtube videos full of nonsense that you can talk about Brexit and Trump on. Let's keep this clap trap non-thinking away from real intelligent thinking people's videos.
Whilst I do think your opinion Matt is not without merit, I also feel Max is somewhat right too. But without significant amounts of data showing why people voted we just don't know who is "more right".
This is historically incorrect. While there is a large group of people overly concerned with the "nationalistic" nativistic ideas now in some fashion outside of 4chan, Daily Stormer and other maginal places, this group could have never got itself into any reasonable position of power or influence of any kind if there wasn't an underlying current of deep economic stress residing in our societies, which is correctly diagnosed as the rise of "inequality".
Every study out there confirms this, that while globally, inequality is going through a deep descent, within western countries, the big majority of people haven't seen any rise on their wealth whatsoever, only to observe the really wealthy just skyrocket their possessions like nothing else in history. Given the incredible hurt that was the Great Recession, and the political failures to solve those economic troubles that came thereafter, it was almost inevitable that people would turn to alternative politics and explanations for the massive dissatisfaction in the population. Quick, easy but ultimately incredibly dumb explanations like "The fault is those damn mexicans stealing mah jobs" got widespread thumbs up, because, hey, half of the population has less than average intelligence. The blame was shifted from the pervailing economic status quo that we live under to "those brown devilish people and all the liberal cucks that let them in", and hence Brexit happened, and hence Trump happened.
This is not rocket science.
Well, I see differently, just see racism and xenophobia in Norway and Denmark growing, Bolsonaro in Brazil. It's the hate against marginalized groups, I don't know where that comes from, but that's the cause.
Go back to natural world..The way to handle AI
Unbelievable arrogance.
Another communist..