“How did I know? I mean he lies about everything, anyway.” Like what? Bender may have been an a**hole, but he was the most honest one there. He wasn’t hiding anything.
"You don't believe me?" "No." "....No?" This is so sad because bender just told them all he was being abused and he was immediately invalidated for it. In the part where he says 'no??' You can really hear the heartbreak
If you read the deep details of when this movie was made, Judd Nelson(Bender) dove so far into this role that he was nearly fired by John Hughes for being an enormous asshole. Both on camera and off, he stayed in character during filming. Even going so far as to torment Molly Ringwald. It was only at the behest of Paul Gleason(Mr. Vernon) that he was kept for the entire movie. Otherwise, we would have had John Cusack as Bender and that wouldn't have been the same, imho. Judd Nelson IS John Bender. And he played that character *_very_* well.
The moment in this film when the other 4 kids see why John Bender is the way he is--a boy who is mentally abused by both his parents and physically abused by his father. I think Claire's heart goes out to him then!
Alison was probably being neglected and the jock, his dad was living through him by proxy The only one I’m not entirely sure about was the beauty but....
I feel like Bender is the kind of guy who just walks up to the weirdest kid in school sits right down next to him and says hey I'm gonna be your best friend what are we having for lunch
No. Bender is the kind of kid who's doing whatever he can to make fun of the person least likely to fire back at him in the group because it A) gets him some validation from the group (note Claire and Andrew smiling at what he's doing), and B) it distracts him from his own pain.. Bullying Brian doesn't make him a nice guy, though. He's being a jerk, even if the reasons are made more understandable in this scene.
@@SnowyWolborg I doubt that he likes him. He's just making fun of him. I feel that he's jealous of him because he thinks that Brian has something he doesn't have; a happy home life.
this is why Johnny Bender is my favorite character of the movie, he doesn't take shit from no one not even the principle that thinks he's the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket.
I was 14 when this movie came out. It was one of my favorites. I used to act out Bender jumping up on the bookstand and then climbing the stairs. Now at 44 I see this and I'm like "damn, I need to get my fat ass in shape."
@Mike Fletcher Yes, grown men threatening to kick a student's ass in a secluded closet is such an awesome thing to do. Wasting his pension and ruining his reputation just because of some jackass student like there's not going to be a thousand more just like him? What an alpha.
Fun fact those are Judd Nelsons actual clothes not a costume. Also when Bender is on the next level sitting look at his glove theres a button on it that says NOT SAVED
I know that all 5 of these characters are all the literal focus of the story, but the main character of the 5 is John Bender. Ik a lot of people Say Clair is the main character since she is played by Molly Ringwald and was always main girl material, but her character in this was sorta bland, generic, and had higher standards, where Bender is one of the outcast and such, but hes the only one to make something of it and use it as his strength. He doesn't take shit from no one even when he takes shit from someone live Dick Vernon (THE PRINCIPLE) and the fact that out of all the kids in detention, he's the one who is eyed out the most by the principal. He also is the only one who comes from a domestic and unbalanced homelife where everyone else either loves their kid too much or ignores them; I can tell bender's father hits him. So Bender has a shit tone to tackle while remaining strong and distant while learning to find himself in detention. Plus hes the only one to return back to detention
After hearing that the John Bender role was supposedley promised by John Hughes. to John Cusack, Im glad Judd Nelson ended up winning the role. Cusack as good as he was in the movies he did would have been all wrong for the Bender role. Nelson being older and having the menacing look made him the best choice. Cusack after playing the submissive lackey friend to Hall in "Sixteen Candles", you never would have believed his John Bender could intimidate in any way Hall's Brian Johnson character. Judd Nelson did deserve an Oscar for his performance.
Thomas Kemer I think he would have appeared to be to young for the role. Brian and Clair were actually high school age but Andrew, Allison and Bender were obviously early to mid twenties playing teens. Sheen would have probably looked like he did in "Red Dawn" at that time. Bender has to be older looking and intimidating and even though a coward has to look like he could stand toe to toe with Andrew or Vernon for that matter. I read that Judd Nelson got the job for his look and intimidation but almost lost the job because alot of his intimidation was too real for Molly Ringwald.
The worst part isn't even that never ending stream of insults. Even though it does something to you that I wouldn't describe even if I could. The visible cigar scar is the very least of it. The worst is the realization that comes later in life when you learn that you really weren't loved as a child, and how you might not have really been loved by others whom you loved. That's why I will never rationalize how any child is mistreated with generalized statements like ' your mother loves you, even though she might make some mistakes'. So yeah, Bender goes through hell at home, but there will be more to come later as a result of that first hell.
And when bender has his outburst and throws all the stuff off the table, nobody laughs because they ALL understand what just happened, and they're not judging him for it even though he's an asshole
@@jamilahoward1937 -- I am so sorry to hear that. That is awful! Have you told anyone else (like a friend, relative or a sympathetic teacher? A Social Worker?) Nobody deserves to be abused anywhere, but especially not in their own home.
Regarding that scene where John imitates his entire home life, especially when Mr. Bender verbally demands the missus shut up and go fix him a turkey pot pie, every sight of a turkey pot pie reminds me of the scene.
I’ve had moments like this in my adolescence. Being denied any kind of outside support or belief in your struggles when you’re constantly calling out for help. In those moments it was like my mind was screaming “NOBODY WILL BELIEVE YOU!”. Really tragic stuff.
Technically Johnny was or seemingly a what we called a “Super-senior” back in the day...looked realistically 2or maybe in 3 years passed his HS senior year...yes, they existed but not for long...they’d drop out one after becoming super or a year or two before...a history of being left back once or twice. 😢🙄 Intervention programs became VERY POPULAR during this time along with the so-called war on drugs and the DARE program...scared straight...🤣🙄 Ahhh the memories...my 80’s childhood was tame by comparison to most of family in the PS system in NYC...😢😒
How come Bender is mad at Brian for not having an abusive home life? I mean, he is mocking Brian and trying to tear him down, simply because he is smart and does not have abusive parents. It isn't Brian's fault.
Sean: It's not your fault. Bender: [Softly, still staring off] I know... Sean: No you don't. It's not your fault. Bender: [Serious] I know. Sean: No. Listen to me son. It's not your fault. Bender: I know that. Sean: It's not your fault.[Bender is silent, eyes closed] Sean: [steps closer] It's not your fault. Bender: [choking up] Don't f**k with me, Sean. Not you. Sean: [steps even closer] It's not your fault.[Bender shoves Sean back, and then, hands trembling, buries his face in his hands. Bender begins sobbing. Sean puts his hands on Bender's shoulders] Sean: It's not your fault. Sean: It's not your fault. Bender: [Bender grabs him and holds him close, crying] Oh my God! I'm so sorry! I'm so sorry! Sean: F**k him, OK?
Judd Nelson was robbed of a Best Actor nod for this film.
He was phenomenal
Judd Nelson should of won an oscar for his role
Lady Elizabeth rewarded in heaven? you say it like he's dead. you do know the man is still alive and well right?
U know he went to a high school and blended in to prepare for the role
You know religion doesn't have to be brought into everything?😂
John Bender will ALWAYS be my fucking role model!!!!
What, a guy who's incredibly rude and standoffish and sexually harrasses girls? Great role model lol
@@kayleighgriva4817 Yep. I'm also an over-confident likable douchebag.
@@wyldshot666 Idk about likeable. I'd slap anyone who treated me like John Bender. Have fun being a prick tho
@@kayleighgriva4817 Apparently,you have someone who's bullied you in life. And an attempt to lay a finger on me would be bad. 😯😯😯😯😯
@@wyldshot666 I'm very confused lol. I've never been bullied, and I don't want to lay a finger on you??? Unless you treat me like John Bender lmao
“How did I know? I mean he lies about everything, anyway.” Like what? Bender may have been an a**hole, but he was the most honest one there. He wasn’t hiding anything.
Some give the big monster hug
He lies about everything anyway? Does he now?
The way he slaps his hand is still hilarious
Your name says it all...
He cheated on Trisha Paytas so he deserved it
@@gutsfuck ?
@@gutsfuck - What
@@four-twenty4205 the nerd one gave her an std and cheated but I was drunk when I posted that lol I forgot about it sorry
Notice at the end of the film they all have a parent at the front of the school to pick them up except Bender who walks home
Dusty 4 Bender walked to detention too. He almost got hit by Allison's dad's car. 🚗
He lived across school.
TheGooners11 he would probably treat his kids the same as he was treated if ya think about it. That’s how most lives play out
TheGooners11 most people who grow up in abusive homes follow the trend because it’s all they know
TheGooners11 someone who didnt take bullying to heart like a simp ty for explaining him so well to the one track minded andrews
"You don't believe me?"
"No."
"....No?"
This is so sad because bender just told them all he was being abused and he was immediately invalidated for it. In the part where he says 'no??' You can really hear the heartbreak
If you read the deep details of when this movie was made, Judd Nelson(Bender) dove so far into this role that he was nearly fired by John Hughes for being an enormous asshole. Both on camera and off, he stayed in character during filming. Even going so far as to torment Molly Ringwald. It was only at the behest of Paul Gleason(Mr. Vernon) that he was kept for the entire movie. Otherwise, we would have had John Cusack as Bender and that wouldn't have been the same, imho. Judd Nelson IS John Bender. And he played that character *_very_* well.
@@deathvalleyjoyride interesting.
@@deathvalleyjoyride same I agree he is actually my favorite character
Sam N if your parents say sorry for all the shit they do to u. Not belief them.
agreed. it's really sad. Bender is a product of his environment
The moment in this film when the other 4 kids see why John Bender is the way he is--a boy who is mentally abused by both his parents and physically abused by his father. I think Claire's heart goes out to him then!
Alison was probably being neglected and the jock, his dad was living through him by proxy
The only one I’m not entirely sure about was the beauty but....
He's a bad boy her parents would not approve that's all.
The way he just climbed that staircase💀
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairs
@@SuperGreatSphinx LMFAOOOO
I like how at 1:15 Andrew’s smile fades cause he realises he’s falling into the same trap of picking on people.
True!
I feel like Bender is the kind of guy who just walks up to the weirdest kid in school sits right down next to him and says hey I'm gonna be your best friend what are we having for lunch
Even though he constantly makes fun of him, I think that Bender does like Brian.
No. Bender is the kind of kid who's doing whatever he can to make fun of the person least likely to fire back at him in the group because it A) gets him some validation from the group (note Claire and Andrew smiling at what he's doing), and B) it distracts him from his own pain.. Bullying Brian doesn't make him a nice guy, though. He's being a jerk, even if the reasons are made more understandable in this scene.
Did you watch the fucking movie?
@@SnowyWolborg I doubt that he likes him. He's just making fun of him. I feel that he's jealous of him because he thinks that Brian has something he doesn't have; a happy home life.
@@jarvisfamily3837 They were smiling at Brian's comeback ie. "uh no Mr. Johnson"
I love how the music kicks in around 2:17 as Bender's rage starts to build. It's like analyzing what creates a punk... his parents.
i wonder what that song is called
@@charlykokiri5668 did you find it I can't locate it
@@joebangles03 no 😥 i think is because its a composed soundtrack for the movie and its not a real song
Yah would be dope to get that track, total 80’s
this is why Johnny Bender is my favorite character of the movie, he doesn't take shit from no one not even the principle that thinks he's the drill sergeant from Full Metal Jacket.
That was R. Lee Ermy
@@robertisham5279 Yep. 😃😃😃😅😅
My favourite is John but what do you think would happen if him and Andy had a fight
“You wanna come over some time?”
-No thank you.....Lol
Poor Bender. I just wanted to hug him through this entire film. Judd did such an amazing job. Just love him.
He was the best character in the movie and they were all great
Same!!
His home life is bad enough then he has to come to school on Saturday and take all kinds of crap from Vernon.
I was 14 when this movie came out. It was one of my favorites. I used to act out Bender jumping up on the bookstand and then climbing the stairs. Now at 44 I see this and I'm like "damn, I need to get my fat ass in shape."
1:54
Is your dad sylverster stallone?
I hope not
Bender was a total badass
Mike Fletcher but he threatened him back
@Mike Fletcher Yes, grown men threatening to kick a student's ass in a secluded closet is such an awesome thing to do. Wasting his pension and ruining his reputation just because of some jackass student like there's not going to be a thousand more just like him? What an alpha.
Not really. It was all an act. A later scene with the teacher, who later gets schooled by the janitor.
Fun fact those are Judd Nelsons actual clothes not a costume. Also when Bender is on the next level sitting look at his glove theres a button on it that says NOT SAVED
I know that all 5 of these characters are all the literal focus of the story, but the main character of the 5 is John Bender. Ik a lot of people Say Clair is the main character since she is played by Molly Ringwald and was always main girl material, but her character in this was sorta bland, generic, and had higher standards, where Bender is one of the outcast and such, but hes the only one to make something of it and use it as his strength. He doesn't take shit from no one even when he takes shit from someone live Dick Vernon (THE PRINCIPLE) and the fact that out of all the kids in detention, he's the one who is eyed out the most by the principal. He also is the only one who comes from a domestic and unbalanced homelife where everyone else either loves their kid too much or ignores them; I can tell bender's father hits him. So Bender has a shit tone to tackle while remaining strong and distant while learning to find himself in detention. Plus hes the only one to return back to detention
brian-apple juice
john-i can read
tehe! :))
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_juice
Stella Maris thanks
It's ok Bender...no one believed me either...
Same
People knew they didn’t care.
Same.
@@dude7266 nope!
Bender is probably one of those guys that walked the thin line for awhile, and then found himself in the service.
Bender grew up to be Michael Weston.
Nah probably a mechanic type too many rules in the military for him.
Isn't Bender's father exactly like Homer Simpson? Not a strange thing "Eat my shorts" was brought from him to Bart.
Uh... I never saw Homer hit Marge. Not even Bart.
After hearing that the John Bender role was supposedley promised by John Hughes. to John Cusack, Im glad Judd Nelson ended up winning the role. Cusack as good as he was in the movies he did would have been all wrong for the Bender role. Nelson being older and having the menacing look made him the best choice. Cusack after playing the submissive lackey friend to Hall in "Sixteen Candles", you never would have believed his John Bender could intimidate in any way Hall's Brian Johnson character. Judd Nelson did deserve an Oscar for his performance.
Charlie sheen would have been great too
Thomas Kemer I think he would have appeared to be to young for the role. Brian and Clair were actually high school age but Andrew, Allison and Bender were obviously early to mid twenties playing teens. Sheen would have probably looked like he did in "Red Dawn" at that time. Bender has to be older looking and intimidating and even though a coward has to look like he could stand toe to toe with Andrew or Vernon for that matter. I read that Judd Nelson got the job for his look and intimidation but almost lost the job because alot of his intimidation was too real for Molly Ringwald.
Damn, Bender goes through HELL at home!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell
@@SuperGreatSphinx Figuratively speaking.
@@SuperGreatSphinx thats wikipedia though buddy
The worst part isn't even that never ending stream of insults. Even though it does something to you that I wouldn't describe even if I could. The visible cigar scar is the very least of it. The worst is the realization that comes later in life when you learn that you really weren't loved as a child, and how you might not have really been loved by others whom you loved. That's why I will never rationalize how any child is mistreated with generalized statements like ' your mother loves you, even though she might make some mistakes'.
So yeah, Bender goes through hell at home, but there will be more to come later as a result of that first hell.
He's a trouble kid because his home life
And when bender has his outburst and throws all the stuff off the table, nobody laughs because they ALL understand what just happened, and they're not judging him for it even though he's an asshole
No that's how he intimidates them. He's crazy normal people are scared of that.
@@AnnaLVajda you're not a very deep person, are you?
When your mother doesn't love you
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother
Stella Maris thanks again
1:16 when you realize you’ve been a bully you’re a whole life and you enjoy seeing other people be put down.
I understand his pain.
I understand John bender pain because the sameing happens to me at my house
@@jamilahoward1937 -- I am so sorry to hear that. That is awful! Have you told anyone else (like a friend, relative or a sympathetic teacher? A Social Worker?) Nobody deserves to be abused anywhere, but especially not in their own home.
It’s hard man.
Jamila Howard Stay strong and always have faith in God
It's Hell isn't it? No one should have to live like that. I'm sorry for you and him.
Many people told me that Bender should have never spilled paint in the garage. I believe it was an accident.
Exactly and besides its the garage of all places. Little excessive gotta agree with bender on that.
John Bender needs some help :(
Right...
Milk
yeah. 3:
There's no helping that at such a late stage in development. He will have to help himself and hopefully never look back at those who mistreated him.
How many John Benders are there that were outcast in school or anywhere else? Bender is my favorite character in this movie hands down...
“Did your mom marry Mr Rogers?”
“Uh..no Mr Johnson”
Poor John.
I think something we forget here is Bender is essentially letting these unknown people into his life. Powerful.
when bender head goes back after he got 'hit' he looks so hot
i know the scene is sad but
is it just me??
Its very sad. Parents treat your children well.
I have known so.many 'Benders' in my life. Its heartbreaking.this scene gives me chills every time
Melissa Gutierrez it is just you ;)
FIN Architecture obviously it’s not just her (: others agreed. Duh.
Melissa Gutierrez
he was hot the whole movie haha
Regarding that scene where John imitates his entire home life, especially when Mr. Bender verbally demands the missus shut up and go fix him a turkey pot pie, every sight of a turkey pot pie reminds me of the scene.
I wish there was some way they could make a reunion movie with this cast
Ik don't think so.
E.W how about if they were called to jury duty, I think it would be interesting, I would like to see some type of reunion if possible
30+ years later they...don't look like that anymore...
The teacher died in 2006
Vernon died so could not do it
This is what you get, at my house when you spill paint in the garage!
Bender's dad sounds like my late father although the I acted more like the "popular girl" - a form of "escapism" from physical abuse
A great scene with the John bender character ! Has anybody ever wonder what happen to him in 2018?
Lady Elizabeth wow! Could you tell me the Instagram?
John Bender is funny. 😃😃😃😃
i simply haven't been able to stop laughing... and then crying...
My man really fuckin Spider-Man’d his ass up those stairs.
I’m eating a chicken pot pie right now and I thought of this.
A reminder the God loves you and Jesus died for your. sins. 💓.
Is anyone realising that someone named Stella Martis keeps dropping Wikipedia link to every comment
She is more annoying than the nerd in the film!
This is exposition done well. It's not trying to hide it, yet the fact that exposition is being done is exposition in itself.
BENDER KEPT IT REAL. that principal was a brat.
John's impression is pretty much how Brian wished his parents are like.
He could’ve been in theater class
As a former theatre kid, the other ones probably would’ve been terrified of Bender LMAO
"Do I stutter?"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttering
Stella Maris you gonna reply to every thing with a Wikipedia article
@@ewanstewart8022 She replied to another comment with a Wikipedia article about stairs! 🤣
This is why Bender and Allison were my favorites. So relatable. I was abused and also neglected.
Put one Asian in that room and Bender's story sounds like life in the Brady Bunch household.
I’ve had moments like this in my adolescence. Being denied any kind of outside support or belief in your struggles when you’re constantly calling out for help. In those moments it was like my mind was screaming “NOBODY WILL BELIEVE YOU!”. Really tragic stuff.
"Is that for real?". "You want to come over some time?". I could just imagine Brian going to Bender's house.😀 😀😀
I always loved John and the irony is not lost on me that my man is covered in cigarette burns and that was just for just existing.
The Oberheim DX is heard in some theme/music in this song.
I wonder if he really climbed those stairs or was it a stunt guy? 🤔
1:50 this is what my schizophrenia sounds like when I make a minor mistake
Yeah unfortunately it's sounds like my gf stepdad attitude towards her every day
This is sad and F hilarious at the same time. Loved John Bener's character, he made the movie.
No female should be called 5 curse words a day.abuse doesn't just happen to men
Im not going to google it. I’m going to imagine that the creators of Futurama named Bender after John Bender.
John bender is minic is parents thats when the shit it the fan
I always imagined Danny Devito as his dad when he was in Taxi.
Did your mom Marry Mister Rogers lol! Love John Bender
0:14
When you spill paint in the garage...
A great movie mentioned in Ready Player One.
Technically Johnny was or seemingly a what we called a “Super-senior” back in the day...looked realistically 2or maybe in 3 years passed his HS senior year...yes, they existed but not for long...they’d drop out one after becoming super or a year or two before...a history of being left back once or twice. 😢🙄 Intervention programs became VERY POPULAR during this time along with the so-called war on drugs and the DARE program...scared straight...🤣🙄 Ahhh the memories...my 80’s childhood was tame by comparison to most of family in the PS system in NYC...😢😒
One of the best teen movies ever
When he did the punch did he mean that Brian's dad beats his mom?
Most likely
You wanna come over sometime?
What's the tune they play?
I always wondered how Bender the robot got his name and where the phrase "Eat my shorts
" came from
He just wanted a PB&J too :(
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_butter_and_jelly_sandwich
Stella Maris ok
This is why we need good, attentive, caring and supportive teachers
“Do I stutter.” is so poignant.
I wonder if andy ever ate all his food
1:51
do i stutter
Imagine if Vernon was next to John here 3:18
He smack his hand im done 0:13
The way this scene starts, you can tell that community took some inspiration in framing/cinematography
Bender just perfectly described my teen years. Do I stutter?
Probably my fav scene💗
To think we went from teen movies like this to what they are today. It's almost as if we collectively-as a species, went extinct.
0:12
I wasn't that bad i kept acting the maggt in school i got sorted out
Did i stutter 2:43 2:59
How come Bender is mad at Brian for not having an abusive home life? I mean, he is mocking Brian and trying to tear him down, simply because he is smart and does not have abusive parents. It isn't Brian's fault.
He's envious
Like this movie
His name his Bender cause he bends the truth in to lies.🤥
Go fix me chicken pot pie... Classic.
He said pork pot pie.
@@jimmyjew2890 ... Lol 😁
@@jimmyjew2890 No, "turkey."
Sean: It's not your fault.
Bender: [Softly, still staring off] I know...
Sean: No you don't. It's not your fault.
Bender: [Serious] I know.
Sean: No. Listen to me son. It's not your fault.
Bender: I know that.
Sean: It's not your fault.[Bender is silent, eyes closed]
Sean: [steps closer] It's not your fault.
Bender: [choking up] Don't f**k with me, Sean. Not you.
Sean: [steps even closer] It's not your fault.[Bender shoves Sean back, and then, hands trembling, buries his face in his hands. Bender begins sobbing. Sean puts his hands on Bender's shoulders]
Sean: It's not your fault.
Sean: It's not your fault.
Bender: [Bender grabs him and holds him close, crying] Oh my God! I'm so sorry! I'm so sorry!
Sean: F**k him, OK?
Dystopia