1993 - The racial disparity in neighboring Illinois cities
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2020
- In 1993, 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft reported on the racial disparity between the neighboring cities of Belleville and East St. Louis, Illinois.
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1993! 27 years ago. Not long ago and we are still dealing with this today
They don't want us here period. It has been shown time and time again. It's disturbing and sickening
1993 is still considered new nothing in the world has changed in 27 years we dont have flying cars yet
They? Don’t group all whites in Belleville together. Good amount of us don’t care if you live here.
@@gennadeau5543 Come on Black People are emotional nowadays they are more mad at themselves then with whites, but black people do face alot of profile because of there skin color which is wrong
27 years 1993 is nothing the world has not changed a bit since that moment in time
This story is nothing new... Every black person can tell you an area that is just like this one ‼️
All of them are run by DEMOCRATS and black people keep voting for them.
@@travr6 like the meth and opioid in gop districts?
And every white person can tell you an area that's just like Ferguson.
The mayor has the same micro smirk on his face as the Police Chief.
I noticed that too. That town is a known sun down town
I'm a black dude. If I owned property in that city and I was white, I'd expect the police chief to pull over cars with black drivers IF the reports were that these crimes were committed by blacks. My only problem is how these officers treat ALL the blacks as if they are criminals. It's as if these officers are taking their frustrations for not apprehending the criminal out on ANY black that would cross their path. That's wrong. If I was regularly passing through that area and I was stopped for no other reason than for being black, if the officer explained after checking my I.D. and anything he has a lawful reason and right to request, that should be the end of the encounter. The profiling isn't wrong. It's the officer's mistreatment of whom they DEEM as suspects. Suspects dont deserve it either. Only PROVEN criminals deserve punishment, not mistreatment and that's what the police need to understand.
Yep
@@jerrelbailey1714 their day is coming.
@@jerrelbailey1714 Take the gun from the coward and so how brave he is.
Business as usual in a lot of the USA. Segregation was never truly abolished.
The governments plan was to DESEGREGATE to capitalize of of BLACK PEOPLE!
@Le Chat Noir laws are easy to change, racism is handed down from one gen to the next...Trumps father was a racist. Refusing to rent to blacks..The fruit dosnt land far from the tree.
It should never end
ua-cam.com/video/07GHzQuuG_M/v-deo.html When this is what they want for white people You should see why.
Malcolm X wanted it segregated
I'm from East St. Louis. Sadly, this story is presently, still true.
Is that iron gate still standing?
@@NewarkBrickCity1970 Not that I can recall
Yes. They just unlock it in the day time.
@@tyreex8727 why? It's all black in there now! The west side of Belleville has become 102% black!
@@jackson5116 you are right. I live in the 74th street area. Been in Belleville over 35 years. I been harassed by police a lot in 1986 through 1994. It's always a case of mistaken identity. At a certain time at night they still lock those gates. Where the gates are located there are still a lot of racist whites in that wooded area.
I worked in this area around 2005....
It was the MOST racist place I’ve ever been. This video explains a lot.
Man I am 28 and have lived in St. Louis area all my life but I just moved to the city about six years ago. I once worked for a company called Rebel out of Belleville Illinois. One day at work one of the co-workers said “oh don’t you know Belleville is racist against the blacks” and I said no what are you talking about?! He laughed it off but NOW is see what he was referring too.
But would you want to work or live where you're not wanted? That's the important question.
DIVISIONINCISION no I would not
True true. I lived there many years ago and it was racist as could be.
DIVISIONINCISION you really don’t get it
“We stopped most of them”
So nonchalant. So shameless. Disgusting.
Till this day east St Louis is still a violent city.
This evil is the sickness that still plagues America!
Josh Meza you just gonna comment racist sh** on every thread? Don’t write what you won’t say to a mans face
"We stopped most of them, except for the rapist/robber responsible for the crime wave that wasn't actually from East St Louis."
How does this city look today....
I rather they just came out and said “we dont want blacks here” cause that’s basically all i heard every time they spoke. Don’t hide your racist ways. The whole town racist
I wouldn't want to live around them, either.
Go spend an afternoon or evening walking through a fully white neighborhood, and then go do the same in a fully black neighborhood. Then explain to me why racism is a bad thing. I'll wait.
Neon Naughtsie whats your argument here lol. Are you trying to say theres more crime in black neighborhoods so thats why racism is good? Im genuinely confused
There is racism everywhere including east St Louis they don't want whites there
@@neonnaughtsie4726
And when have you walked through a black neighborhood??? Probably never. And we all saw what happens when a black jogs through a white neighborhood, ask Ahmaud Arbery, you phukk boy!!!
Constance is gorgeous especially her smile! That old school 90’s look is everything 🙌🏽😍🔥
I'd say the same about you, but then I would get scrutinized for being a simp...🤷♂️😆
@@Q.B.2.L.B. simp
@@aarenhaggins2861 only fo yo mamma...😄😄
@@Q.B.2.L.B. simp
In 93, the black population was 7%. According to the 2010 census, it had grown to 25%. Interestingly, between 2010 and 2019, Belleville lost 8.4% of its population. It seems “white flight” has come to Belleville.
yes it has.
Cahokia is even worse, it was over 50% white in 2000, but in 2010 was over 50% black. And for Belleville, it's now more so in 2020, with the census showing over 30% black. It's now estimated to be 33% black in 2023 with the white population dropping to 56%. And the city dropped a whopping 6% of its population overall, the largest drop of any city in Illinois. White flight isn't just Cahokia and Belleville, Fairview Heights now has over 30% black population, and like the other two also dropped overall in numbers. White flight is all over the Metro East as many have moved far, far away.
I live in Belleville and there's still a lot of racism in this city, especially the Chief of Police.
That's really sad and white people wonder what is the problem🙄
Are you kidding me? The Chief of Police is black, and his son is an associate judge.
I agree our city sadly is still VERY racist today it's a damn shame !
@F. Friedrich Kling Hauss I live there too! I also have investment property in Edwardsville and Dupo if you're looking to transition from your mobile home 😃
They just don’t want the community ruined.
Imagine if we had cameras back then
They did.
Joe Stiloski iPhones aka smart phones then mr. Obvious
We did have cameras. Big camcorders with vhs 📼 tape to record on compared to the little phones we have now.
@@JJ-fq4nl i know it my momma used 2 lug that thing round on her shoulder all the time when we was little
As soon as I saw your comment, I knew they would come.
WTF did you all think he meant?? Stupid!!
Thanks for uploading this. Shows absolutely nothing has changed
@E. P. I never thought it. Somehow society believed it did.
Exactly. It shows that nothing has changed. Blacks will never become among the rest of the country's self supporting, self respecting, people who respect other people.
Except Belleville has become black on the west side where that was filmed. You won't find a single white person there today unless they're buying drugs. And that's NOT a stereotype, you go to that part of Belleville, you better be going during the day!
@@jackson5116 Agreed. It's bad. My family has lived there for 60 years.
After every major "race riot" in the US in the 201h and 21st centuries, Congress has voted to have a Commission to investigate and to make recommendations in order to avoid these type of riots in the future. Every Commission has determined that every riot stemmed from the same issues and every Commission put forth many of the same suggestions. However, not a single recommendation has ever been implemented, and that's why we continue to see not only race riots, but also inequality and prejudice between races in the US. If you'd like to read the reasons and recommendations, just look up the most extensive and well known commission, The Kerner Comm.
Notice how the police chief was sweating in that interview. Say a lot.
Can't see why wanting to keep crap out of your city is a bad thing.
"U need black employees ". No u need competent employees regardless of ski Color
FYI, a lot of the wealthy whites in Belleville in 93, have moved out to the richer whiter cities over the past decades.
I was thinking the same thing. The Westside of Belleville hasn't changed much. It's now just in Smithon and Freeburg.
They may have gentrified the town for some blacks to move in.
Just like they did in e.st.louis, and when they moved out it wasn't a ghetto then, blame yourselfs.
Why wouldn't they? The point of earning money is to escape living with poor people (of any color) and has been throughout history. No one is excluded or harmed thereby and if the new residents want a nice stable safe town they are free to make it that way.
Racism on full view at its finest.
And where are they now?
I'm interested to know how long the chief and mayor remained in office. I suppose a quick Google search will do that. I cannot believe this wasn't national news. No, yes, I can.
Still a huge metro bedroom community next to an Air Force Base with a lot more black residents! Lived in the next town over and went to Belleville Area College which was renamed Southwestern Illinois College! I was treated like crap by many in authority and general jerks because I wasn't black or white and my family had a successful business! Not all were racist, not all were good people, some were just as crappy to their own - just entitled and selfish! But it was absolutely KNOWN where you should and shouldn't be though & where to avoid if you didn't want to be pulled over!
You get the neighborhood you deserve
I was not a resident of Belleville in the 90s. I moved here in 2014. The Belleville I know is NOT the Belleville from this 27 year old report.
The Belleville I know is diverse, and cosmopolitan, and less segregated than St. Louis across the river.
Here's a headline from today, in that same Signal Hill neighborhood.
www.bnd.com/news/local/article243470351.html
I live in Signal Hill. 3 of my 4 neighbors are black.
You can see the lies in the police chief’s eyes. The eyes can tell you a lot about a person
d k , and the slight, ever so slight smirk on his lips. Look very close. Micro expressions do tell.
His eyes are going different directions
@@JanieLaine LMAO
@@adrienneflowers2237 , "The Secret in their eyes" - great movie
He’s not lying. He’s pretty honest about his policies and his brain kicks in occasionally to not sound “racist”.
That first black queen is GORGEOUS😭😭😭
She really is 💕 hope she’s doing great
Reminds me of a young Halle Berry
Moshi Somolekae yes she was fine
Seems super stylish
I live in St. Louis I wish I wouldve ran up on her in 93 when I was 20
I’m from chicago: there’s a lot of segregation here, but east St. Louis is one of the poorest places I’ve seen, a grave injustice
And this is the "richest" country in the world....beyond sad.
Watts, California is pretty poor... my grandpa lived and worked there for over 70 years.
Well now shootings going up and this is the result of trying to make evil good but as they say what you reap you will sew
@@cosettelaplante699 I’m originally from SoCal and spent a lot of time around Watts, Gardena, and other areas like them. Spent 50/50 of my time in St. Louis area and SoCal through my 20’s and 30’s. Trust me on this. East St. Louis is a WHOLE different animal compared to cities around LA. 24 hour bars, strip clubs, and just about any vice a person could want there. Very odd.
@@mrike5651 ......sew with a needle and thread......reap what you SOW........illiteracy will doom this country........
This has nothing to do with race but EVERYTHING to do with CULTURE.
Whoopi?
New Kids On The Block is alright but New Edition isn't? That's the energy this comment is giving me.
I was born and raised in East St Louis and none of the surrounding communities treated Black citizens decently. Not Collinsville, not Edwardsville and especially not Belleville. Belleville always had that attitude that if you weren't born there or living there you were not welcome.
I'm sure a big percentage of Bellevue residents buy their drugs from East St Louis and I'm not talking about pharmaceutical drugs
And that's the real deal
"The game is the game". Every wire character
Mike T Or, maybe, very few Bellevue residents use drugs.
@@jimziemer474 ...cocaine, meth, heroin. I'm pretty sure most people in that town have plenty in their personal stash
Drug dealers should ONLY sale to Belleville.
Don't worry, Belleville has plenty of diversity now days. Along with a higher crime rate.
Thank you for be WILLING to have the conversation about systemic racism in America.
TheSushiraw - systemic racism DEFINITELY leads to desperation. Therefore, higher crime rates.
@mississippi proud @mississippi proud "there is no systemic racism in america...""...get educated..."
The irony is never lost on willfully ignorant trolls like Mississippi proud desperate for attention. Who TF are you to tell me what my lived experience is or isn't?
Now, let me climb down to your level. Read your senseless comment and tell the world which of us should have stayed in school.
You are an embarrassment to our country and to those who might call you family. FOH!
We need to have a conversation about systematic weeve use....
Lol 😆 🤣
@@sticksnstonespatriot1728 Lets start with early Europeans and who inspired their wigs. Then we can move on to early American politricksters and judges.
#WhIGpartyRiot LMAO
@@sticksnstonespatriot1728 how about having a conversation with whytes about systemic meth use
When I was living in Montgomery, AL, one of my co-workers was from Belleville. He was the most racist person I met during my whole time spent in the South.
Guess what happened after this story dropped. Police were told to back off, Belleville turned in to east St. Louis junior.
Actually Belleville Illinois is still nothing like East St. Louis. Belleville is now around 30% black and remians majority white, while East St Louis is still almost entirely black. Bellville has only lost a slight amount of population compared to East St. Louis which has declined by more then half, and has only moderate poverty compared to the sky high poverty in it's neighbor. Belleville has some issues but remains an economicly vibrant and intact historical community which does have a relitively high crime rate but again nothing anything like the danger found in East St Louis, which is mostly abandoned.
Can we get a follow up to see how much has changed in 27 years?
Most likely not much
I’m from there and that Fence is Still There
Not much. My family live in both areas...
I'll tell you from first hand experience... nothing has changed..
Oh Yes! We need a update on these two cities today in 2020. And I guarantee you not much has changed. And this is why change need to come.
Keep them coming 60 Minutes
Yes, nothing better than the American Media feeding the flames. That's what they do best.
Why hide the truth to make white people feel better about the systemic racism that plagues this country! It’s time white America faces itself, with real good look in the mirror! It’s also time that black America unites and stop wanting to be involved with these people vote for the people in our community and build our own sanctuaries cities/ towns!
Tell The Truths And Shame The Devil ..Time To Face Your Sinister History Amerikkka ..
Kay P. Feeding the flames of what??? This was a reported fact!!! It happened or still happening whether you believe it or not.
First of all this is 27 years old. I've lived in belleville on and off since 1991. If you look at the city now, Belleville is about 60/40 and crime is through the roof in the west part of town, especially, the area bordering ESL
I can’t watch this. Hate and iignorance is in some people’s DNA..
The difference between East St. Louis and Belleville is like the difference between Paris and Kandahar. East St. Louis looks and feels like a third world country, and it is a scary, SCARY, place.
I agree. It’s so weird to me that this area still keeps east St. Louis almost like it’s a town on another island.
There needs to be more people doing this in their cities or the racism will not stop
Racism exists for a very good reason.
Explain why/how racism has been around for as long as man has been around-in every corner of the planet-and you think ANYTHING or anyone can/will change this?
Sexxy Shanda Sexxy Shanda you sexy
@@neonnaughtsie4726 meanwhile your whyte daughters eat black meat for breakfast lunch and dinner 🍆🍆🍆🤣🤣🤣
@@neonnaughtsie4726so if it exists for a reason, then why are random innocent black people also being treated badly?? And y’all act like y’all didn’t set up black people to this life. so it’s really on yall
12:27
In 175 years, only one black employee.....and he's a cleanup man?!
That's their idea of progress.
Priceless. Do you expect different?
Dammmmmmmmmmm. I sooo happy i live in the Caribbean and not in the USA. Just mind blowing
Obviously that's all he's capable of doing, he should consider himself luck for even getting the job.
Why would a black person want to work for a white person who is racist towards black people?
Alot of these old racial videos are popping up since George Floyd protest
It’s to fuel the fire
Yep its so blatant its unreal they just want more minorities out rioting getter pepper sprayed and thrown in jail and end up having less of a future because they will have a record
Resin Boi it’s all a distraction from what’s actually going on the worlds in uproar over George Floyd but then again Eric garner died the same way the world want in uproar Tamir rice there’s tons of old videos of African Americans being unjustly killed and attack no protests no movements for them why now why makes his death any better then theres. In Chicago 106 people were shot where’s blm or does it only matter if it’s racial bias
In other words, don't shed the light on what's going on, and keep racism hidden, to maintain the status quo and keep white people happy.
Arrmia Benton so your a saying rioting and burning down towns is okay gotcha and not all whites are the same and not all blacks are the same
I live in Philly, Pa. I have a friend that delivers for amazon, mostly in New Jersey. He has documented this year alone over 20 times the police stopping him & he is in an amazon van & uniform.
Once was 3 times in one day.
#ThisIsAmerica
@MALACHAI SHASHU What makes you think he had money or the time for lawyers? He probably was working that job to provide for his family not give it to a lawyer. Think people!
Very disgrace 😥
This really happened I was the Amazon package
Wow
@@danrather2450 is this former CBS Dan Rather? What do you mean you were the package?
Belleville is becoming East st.louis now sadly🤧😢
Belleville Illinois was pretty safe before 1989 truth
Yep and that's why this police chief was right.
Thst Police Chief’s sweaty upper lip sure looks suspicious, just an observation.
Should have asked him the same stupidass questions they ask everyone else.
Have you had any alcohol sir? What about drugs, any drugs on you? Can you account for your whereabouts? Have you recently been to any bars?
That's how MOST (emphasizing MOST) white Americans feel all over America from east to west to north to south, except that they keep it to themselves.
isn’t that sad ?
Robert Henidricks yeah but isn’t that sad ? don’t you not want that to be true ? like yeah everyone regardless of race, sex, or age has some time of prejudice within them because there’s no way in our socialization to avoid having it somewhere. the truth is people don’t keep it to themselves. they show it in subtle ways that they may not even realize. in coded language, maybe in who they hire, maybe even in which actors they like more than others. the whole point is that it is true and it ruins and sometimes ends people’s lives. i know it doesn’t seem like it on a small scale but a beach doesn’t look like billions of tiny grains of sand either. it’s when they all come together that you see what it is.
You sir are a pathetic raceist
Ya cause you personally know almost every single white person in America.
Amat Amat so true, they pretend they don’t see color but they are as racist as ever
The interview from 7:00 to 10:00 is wild, he had no problem saying it freely with no problem or concern. Things sure have changed since 1993.
@@dalegribble-ko3tx Police Chief Hurst doesn't seem to have a grip on basic law involving police contact with citizens. It's amazing to hear him talk around the 7:00 minute mark forward. He's so unknowledgeable of the law that he's opening his city up for a federal lawsuit by his interview alone. With all the cameras and videos these days currently, a lot of people are starting to understand how many Police officers and officials are just as ignorant to the law as the chief.
East St Louis still has the highest homicide rate in the county. But black residents now moving into west side of Belleville. Belleville beginning to become city they feared it would become. Yet everybody has the right to move where they please.
Sundown Town.
The gates are not in the city of Belleville. They are in an unincorporated neighborhood outside of the city's control. The neighborhood in question had several violent home invasions occur during the mid 80's and the residents in that area had enough. And yes the suspects turned out to be E St Louis residents.
when my parents split I lived in ESTL w/ my mom and in the summer I’d live in Belleville with my dad! man it was like living in two different worlds
🥺
It’s also changed a lot. It’s more intersting to me now is that most of east Louis is torn down and a lot of us East St. Louis folks moved to Belleville haha.
Integration destroyed Belleville.
A rod iron gate was built on the edge of the city clearly separating Belleville and East St.Louis
Steve Croft: "If I lived in east saint louis and I was black I'd look at this and I'd say message is pretty clear. Those people don't want me over here.
Racist Guy - "I would probably feel that way"
Steve Croft: "Does that bother you?"
Racist Guy: "No sir, I didn't put it up"
Steve Croft: "But you approve of it?"
Racist Guy: "I don't disapprove of it."
Read between the lines: "Yes I approve" is what racist guy is really saying.
Daniel Najar - Insert Gilbert Keith Chesterton's article "The Drift from Domesticity" here and wait for a logical response...
I'd like to know how they fundraised to get the money to build the gate. Did they hold "Bake Sales for Racism"? This disgusts me. One sad part is that this SHOULD HAVE caused, at the very least, a nationwide discussion immediately after the article came out, but and even worse, is that it received no coverage even after airing on "60 Minutes" . I'm sure everyone, or every white viewer, watching it assumed this outright racism was only limited to these 2 cities. We've had protest after protest since MLK's first nationally aired walk. Yet, almost nothing has changed. I didn't agree at all with the destruction of property-- the burning of buildings and cars-- on 2 nights 2 weeks ago, but it may have been the ONLY thing that got racism the attention it deserves and has deserved for decades, over a century. I don't think this foresight is what prompted racism into becoming and garnering a national, now international, spotlight, but it did just that. Therefore, I'm glad that the very limited destruction and looting happened. It's a small price for insurance companies to pay for the good, finally & hopefully, that it has done -- a very small price indeed.
You SEEN THE SMIRKING SMILE When he said that.
He's Down with the White Supremacist Movement.
He has No problem with his Prejudice.
B Bodziak Most likely privately funded like any of the gated communities nowadays - rich neighbor on a very small road that nobody would use regardless of the gate being there or not! Just another way to assert their feelings in case it wasn't already clear!
For any non-minority commenters that feel integration is the mission of your government as opposed to individuals, never forget that you are always free to buy a home, send your kids to school, and establish a life in East St Louis.
People shouldn’t have to integrate themselves into a more dangerous area in order to advocate diversity. I also don’t think it’s the government’s responsibility to diversify communities. Every individual should made decisions based upon their own needs and wants. Nothing is stopping colored men from buying houses in white communities, they most likely chose not to, or make decisions that prevent them from being qualified for such purchases based on character and not color. Same as gated suburban primarily white community members chose not to move to places like the East stl where it’s a prominently black community. Not for a concern of race, but more of a concern of safety. I would be more than happy to see more people moving out of dangerous communities and rather upset to see more people move into, more dangerous, lower income communities. Despite race or culture every human should strive to move forward and progress socially and economically. It’s would be the opposite of progress for white people to move to a more dangerous area of a city Jus for diversity. Would make more sense for colored people to move to a less dangerous area to advocate such integration(Not that all of E STL is bad, I’m aware there are a few nice communities in the area)
Basically what I’m sayin is, for any colored folks who feel it’s the mission of white people to integrate communities, just remember you are more than welcome to purchase a house in a prominently white community, send your kids to their public school, and establish a life in a suburb.
When that one sanitation worker started work the good townsfolk probably lined the streets of his route to work hurling racial slurs at him everyday he was on the job and WHILE he was picking up their trash.
You got that right
The PAIN in that black father's eyes!
Nothing worse than being harassed when you're nothing but a law abiding, hard working citizen. As if the police cant tell the difference between a decent person and someone who's up to no good. That man your referring to looked about as decent as anyone. To be harassed means he was cos of his skin color. Very sad.
@@stefanosprokopis3917 It still happens daily
This was many years ago and the people that lived there PRAISED that sheriff for keeping crime out of Belleville! I mean wouldn't you?....NOW since that sheriff is gone and things have changed, have you seen the crime rate NOW in that area?...."The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Belleville is 1 in 26. Based on FBI crime data, Belleville is NOT one of the safest communities in America. Relative to Illinois, Belleville has a crime rate that is higher than 93% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes.".........And East St louis IS STILL a war zone!......I don't know about you but I prefer to live in areas with no crime!
It’s like Milwaukee or Chicago. A certain group of people commit most of the crime. So the other groups of people stay away from the crime. Seems like common sense to me.
And now the drugs are affecting their communities.
Belleville has always been racist. When I was stationed at Scott Air Force base I attempted to go to a movie while in uniform in Belleville; but was not allowed because of my skin color! ! Mind you this took place in 1957 .
Most definitely that was 1957 they didn't care if you were in uniform or not that wasn't just Belleville that was 1957
My supervisor who just passed is from Belleville and she told me a couple of years back it was nothing like that. Its was different than the south..... Man I know this is old but last year on my vacation I wanted to stop and go there. After seeing this I'm glad I didn't.
I'm from Belleville, been here my whole life. This video shocked me, honestly my family has always taught to be inclusive and kind and open minded. But I dont even know for sure now if my experiences have been inclusive because Belleville has changed or just because I was raised to be this way. This was a shocking video because I've never seen anyone behave this way here. The chief of police and mayor are appalling in this video, I'm now going through my own memories trying to sort out if I've been systematically brainwashed into believing that theres no bigotry here because its routine. It terrifies me that I cant definitively say that there isn't a race divide here because until this video I absolutely never believed there was or is.
@@karamcfadden8020 excellent thought and being so s eff of aware. Good on you. You cant help what happened when you were a child, but you can help make things better as an adult. 👍👍👍👍
@@karamcfadden8020 at least you're examining the situation. However, I'm certain that whites and blacks have been conditioned to partake in white supremacy. I'm black, and I can tell you black people are conditioned to behave a certain way, have low self-esteem, not be virtuous, etc. I'm generalizing, sure, but when people have esteem, they behave differently. One main component of that, is having a strong cultural identity, which many other minorities have to fall-back on. However, when that is taken away from us, it's very easy for all these negative labels to condition you to think you are those things as there's nothing else there to refute it.
pigget lane in east saint louis. thats where people take cars they steal from bellevillle. you can either reduce crime and be called racist or have your life torn apart by savages. i have yet to hear any better ideas
East St Louis is a giant cesspool. No wonder the residents wanted to keep all that crime and stuff out of their town. I don't blame them one bit. I can't say I agree with their tactics, although it appears the tactics were successful, albeit with some collateral damage.
Please upload more of these videos for the people asking why the protest!!
Protest is understandable,looting,burning, killings not understandable!
I grew up in Belleville and I worked in East St. Louis for a number of years back in the late 70s. I've also lived in other regions of the country and I can tell you without hesitation that the racial division that exists in that community is the deepest there is in America. It was only after I moved away and subsequently revisited that it struck me just how much baked-in hatred and institutional racism there is up there. Folks are blatantly racist and don't even realize it, as was plainly evident in the video.
The South has the best race relations in the country.
@@gregorycyr9272 I would agree. They are certainly not without their prejudices but nowhere near what you have in places like Belleville.
@@kcrsradio We are not perfect.I live in Raleigh NC and you see black and white people interacting daily without problems.The Midwest and Northeast are a disgrace concerning this subject and yes i am from upstate NY orginally.
But but wait people like Candace Owens say things like this don't happen anymore in the USA.
Because Candice Owens is dumb enough to believe that hundreds of personal hate messages to her from Trump supporting email accounts, was really the fault of of one white woman. Can't fix how stupid she is.
@Rocky Fletch so White people don't commit crimes??? do you know that Reagan and Bush Colonel Oliver North ran one of the biggest drugs and guns programs into the u. S..
@Rocky Fletch Facts destroy the liberal narrative so they do not allow them to be posted.
@Rocky Fletch compare status of most discriminated group
@Rocky Fletch ua-cam.com/video/C6aO2lC2tdE/v-deo.html the Discrimination that these people suffer did not allow them or the children to progress they could not send their kids to colleges they could not invest in their own business but yet you see no problem with that
This guy is disgusting- i remember when I was about 11 yrs old, my parents watched 60 minutes religiously, I watched this show for about 8 years without missing an episode... the sad thing is that 27 years later, it's somehow still relevant...
The first step to solving a problem is admitting there is one and all racist will deny that there isn’t a problem
Exactly. Sad part you have some.blacks that deny it too. Ice literally have had debates with blacks about them experiencing racism the moment they were born into US.
Why is racism a problem, exactly?
In all honesty, racism is completely natural though.
@@ivuzgassedsixnotwelvetimes9878 There is nothing natural with hating other groups of people, only evil people who were raised without a conscious believe this way.
@@timpipkins5190 It's called 'in-group preference', and every creature on the planet is hardwired for it. People prefer to be around their own kind. Totally natural.
Maybe if the crime rate wasn't so high in St Louis people wouldn't have left.
Maybe if there were resources there the crime rate wouldn't be do high. But nobody wants to discuss that
This is America where the societies are divided so deep. 2050 will be more divided.
Why weren’t the people of Belleville in the same situation as the people of east St Louis? I’m sure the Belleville residents aren’t hanging out in east St Louis after dark either.
A wall or a gate may keep some people out, but you also imprison yourself.
They aren't oblivious they just won't acknowledge it
i dont blame belleville trying to do something, no one wants their city to end up like east st. louis
Unfortunately, and I saw someone comment this, belleville actually has begun to see businesses leave, crime rates go up, and a lot of the schools are starting to become underfunded. Meanwhile, since this video has come out, the population of East St. Louis has fallen to a fourth of what it was and it seems like less when you go through it.
Lol Belleville is my birthtown. I remember that McDonald's. Funny thing is the area my grandparents lived in is now the hood.
60 minutes tryna start somethin bringing this back!! 😂 I love it
Yeah, go to Belleville now. West Belleville specifically.
Yeah those people want to keep their town nice and safe. How dare they!!
Is it really shocking that a nice, safe area where property values are high, would want to keep it that way?
The neighborhood put the gate up because of crime and people were using it for a short cut.
When Beyond Scared Straight aired, a few episodes were filmed in St. Clair County Jail. After watching this, I can see why crime was so far high around this area, especially when it came to black people being convicted. Even nearly 30 years on from this video, racism and segregation is still a big problem in the U.S.A. Not just in these two cities.
And here we are almost 30 years later,after this 60 mins episode first aired,and Belleville is turning into what so many people feared it would become,a city that’s being overrun with drugs and crime and becoming another E St. Louis. I first moved to Belleville in 2003,and in the small amount of time I’ve lived here,it’s been sad watching just how fast this city has declined with businesses leaving the area,right along with a lot of it’s long term residence moving out of the city as well. It’s gotten so bad here that even the local paper,the Belleville News Democrat has shut down its local offices and paper plant and now has it’s paper made in Kansas City and trucked in every night for the local carriers to deliver. With all the buildings that sit vacant from businesses leaving the city and no new businesses coming in to replace them,combined with the class of people moving into the area and the crime rate increasing every year,Belleville will sadly turn into another E.St.Louis within the next 15 to 20 years if not sooner.
Well only way to stop this happening is voting Red and then Democrats will never win again but it will never till stupid people wake up what is happening.
Exactly!
I can assure you that there are many white pedos and meth users in Belleville. Let’s not act like it’s East stl fault. There’s a majority of white poverty there, all you have to do is drive around to see.
Should have listened to your grandparents.....
Keeping Belleville safe, nothing wrong with that
Hard to believe that former tennis champion Jimmy Connors is from East St. Louis.
Jackie Joyner kersey Miles Davis East Saint Louis always birthed greatness
Belleville is still racist, all the way to Ofallon too….ain’t nothing changed but the weather
"DAS RAITE!!"
This stuff is going on all over the country. Illinois has a plethora of towns like this. "The book Sun Down Towns, A Hidden Dimension of American Racism" talk all about this stuff starting in the "Nadir" era 1890-1930 all the way to 2004 when the book was written. And it's still going on in 2020!!!
I bet you live in a white neighborhood yourself though and sure as heck would not move to a black neighborhood, would you? Easy to sound self-righteous isn't it?
@@JohnSmith-ct5jd
Get phukkk out of here!!!
I grew up in the hood, and proud of it!!! I never lived in some 🌽-e @$$ white neighborhood.
I'm looking at this video 29 years later almost 30 years later to the date. The family interviewed was extremely racist. Police chief smiling, mayor smiling and police department seemed very much like the leadership of the city. With the thirty year anniversary approaching it would be nice if we could back back and interview everyone in the video including the officers from that time period.
Right
Wouldn't that be something.....maybe a suggestion could be made to CBS..
Blame those committing the crime, not those who want safe communities.
It is amazing that East St. Louis is currently, 30 years later, the most dangerous city in the US
That police sheriffs lips even sweat when he says that they don't target black people. Never trust a person who can sweat from their lips.
Fairview Heights, IL too. They pulled Me over and Thank God My Husband was still in His
Police Uniform following Me and headed Home. Fairview Police pulled Me over and When My Husband got out and asked Him what was the reason for pulling Me over and He was right behind Me before the Cop jumped out at Me, the Fairview Officer said nothing and just walked away.
I’ve been pulled over ESL Illinois I’m white Black cop Took all our cash and let Go .
Why doesn't the media ever focus on all asian or hispanic neighborhoods? It seems that blacks are determined to live among whites but not the least bit interested living among asians or hispanics. Why is that?
Because Asians and Hispanics don't put up with their crap, whereas white people do.
How demonic. Belleville is not a Christian city. Please say a prayer for thier souls.
i don't think anyone wants racist behavior, but being born and raised in chicago...there were always boundry lines between black and white neighborhoods, the black neighborhoods were formerly white and the people bought the house way under valued.....( dispells the red line myth ) it was generally accepted: you don't garass anyone: going to and from work at a bus stop, postal workers or anyone in general support their family, each side would rather socialize with their own race, they don't mind working together,,,when its time to go home they want to be around their own culture.
Well compare the two why is there more crime in the black neighborhood than the white neighborhood
poverty=crime
East St. Louis had nearly 80,000 people at one time, now less than 20,000. The entire area is going down the tubes.
I was 10 years old when this documentary was made... It hits close to home because I was born and raised in Venice Illinois... 10 mins from E. St. Louis ....
Cookie Cute as a puppy is it still divided like this out there?
Jamon B You are correct... You still have many who has that same of mind frame... As of today .. Belleville Illinois is very diverse and many from all races, colors and creed reside there ..... I just came across this video.. never in my wildest dreams.. I would see a documentary on how just by the color of your skin.. White privileged would’ve treated us to such nature.. A pretty damning eye opening..
@@cookiecuteasapuppy1008 What is Granite City Army Depot now?
hey I know you, you worked in brooklyn! I see you kept your stage name!
Ronnie Paul .... lol ... ya got the wrong Cookie buddy ..😂🤣... never worked in Brooklyn
The American Way, Create a Ghetto and then bemoan its inhabitants
Blah blah blah racism this racism that
The energy of entitlement, if people knew the actual history of the area and how redlining and racial inequity effected the city
I spent one year of my life in East St Louis , from summer of '59, to June of 1960. -----------The flight to Belleville, including my Mom's husband's family, had already happened when I got there, at age 12 to age 13 : 8th grade. -----------My time in East St Louis was difficult, but it wasn't the fault of any of the black residents. ----------My mom's husband's Polish family didn't like me --------and I was never welcome in their home. --------------------WolfSky9, 73 y/o
at least the racism is on full display!
Are you saying that makes it better??
B Bodziak I don't think that's what he was saying to "better" on behalf of the action but rather better people are aware of their ENEMIES vs thinking they like you to your face! I agree with that because it's been truly unexpected to me how many people I'd have to UNFRIENDon FB that I knew or worked with on FB who hid their nasty side for years! #TheMoreYouKnow
I, wonder if this is still happening in belleville that was 26 years ago 60 minutes needs a follow up on this issue. We, all have to socialize in society as human beings and, not let hate in our lives. Yes, it's going to be crime but crime is everywhere including places like belleville. Hopefully they have new individuals in place There now it's 2020 .✌✊
It is
@@eboniemcmiller3059 then why is Belleville over 35% black? Why is the police chief black? Yeah, you don't know, you're not from here, I AM.
Did the police only harass Black motorists from East St.Louis? So if some young Black men were walking or taking public transportation or an Uber were they harass??? If not, then folks need to update and be in compliance with the law surrounding car insurance and their drivers license . And it wasn't a black/white thing.
I grew up in Belleville, they did the same to white teens,