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  • In 1993, 60 Minutes correspondent Steve Kroft reported on the racial disparity between the neighboring cities of Belleville and East St. Louis, Illinois.
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  • @drew234567891
    @drew234567891 4 роки тому +679

    1993! 27 years ago. Not long ago and we are still dealing with this today

    • @MSSWEETNSASSY34
      @MSSWEETNSASSY34 4 роки тому +26

      They don't want us here period. It has been shown time and time again. It's disturbing and sickening

    • @blackentertainmenthistory8601
      @blackentertainmenthistory8601 4 роки тому +12

      1993 is still considered new nothing in the world has changed in 27 years we dont have flying cars yet

    • @gennadeau5543
      @gennadeau5543 4 роки тому +11

      They? Don’t group all whites in Belleville together. Good amount of us don’t care if you live here.

    • @blackentertainmenthistory8601
      @blackentertainmenthistory8601 4 роки тому +9

      @@gennadeau5543 Come on Black People are emotional nowadays they are more mad at themselves then with whites, but black people do face alot of profile because of there skin color which is wrong

    • @blackentertainmenthistory8601
      @blackentertainmenthistory8601 4 роки тому +5

      27 years 1993 is nothing the world has not changed a bit since that moment in time

  • @tye958
    @tye958 4 роки тому +85

    This story is nothing new... Every black person can tell you an area that is just like this one ‼️

    • @travr6
      @travr6 4 роки тому +2

      All of them are run by DEMOCRATS and black people keep voting for them.

    • @dlitefulone
      @dlitefulone 4 роки тому +1

      @@travr6 like the meth and opioid in gop districts?

    • @Malignus68
      @Malignus68 3 роки тому +4

      And every white person can tell you an area that's just like Ferguson.

  • @rebelheir252
    @rebelheir252 4 роки тому +418

    Business as usual in a lot of the USA. Segregation was never truly abolished.

    • @NoName-jy8oc
      @NoName-jy8oc 4 роки тому +10

      The governments plan was to DESEGREGATE to capitalize of of BLACK PEOPLE!

    • @JohnSmith-gg9jm
      @JohnSmith-gg9jm 4 роки тому +17

      @Le Chat Noir laws are easy to change, racism is handed down from one gen to the next...Trumps father was a racist. Refusing to rent to blacks..The fruit dosnt land far from the tree.

    • @nickp86
      @nickp86 4 роки тому +3

      It should never end

    • @hosskatt-8317
      @hosskatt-8317 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/07GHzQuuG_M/v-deo.html When this is what they want for white people You should see why.

    • @whiteshadow6373
      @whiteshadow6373 4 роки тому +4

      Malcolm X wanted it segregated

  • @teriw56
    @teriw56 4 роки тому +285

    The mayor has the same micro smirk on his face as the Police Chief.

    • @wavegodrobsanders539
      @wavegodrobsanders539 4 роки тому +10

      I noticed that too. That town is a known sun down town

    • @jerrelbailey1714
      @jerrelbailey1714 4 роки тому +5

      I'm a black dude. If I owned property in that city and I was white, I'd expect the police chief to pull over cars with black drivers IF the reports were that these crimes were committed by blacks. My only problem is how these officers treat ALL the blacks as if they are criminals. It's as if these officers are taking their frustrations for not apprehending the criminal out on ANY black that would cross their path. That's wrong. If I was regularly passing through that area and I was stopped for no other reason than for being black, if the officer explained after checking my I.D. and anything he has a lawful reason and right to request, that should be the end of the encounter. The profiling isn't wrong. It's the officer's mistreatment of whom they DEEM as suspects. Suspects dont deserve it either. Only PROVEN criminals deserve punishment, not mistreatment and that's what the police need to understand.

    • @frederickweeksjr.1189
      @frederickweeksjr.1189 4 роки тому +2

      Yep

    • @frederickweeksjr.1189
      @frederickweeksjr.1189 4 роки тому +9

      @@jerrelbailey1714 their day is coming.

    • @thehuntx
      @thehuntx 4 роки тому +6

      @@jerrelbailey1714 Take the gun from the coward and so how brave he is.

  • @SaharaColeman
    @SaharaColeman 4 роки тому +82

    Constance is gorgeous especially her smile! That old school 90’s look is everything 🙌🏽😍🔥

    • @Q.B.2.L.B.
      @Q.B.2.L.B. 3 роки тому +1

      I'd say the same about you, but then I would get scrutinized for being a simp...🤷‍♂️😆

    • @aarenhaggins2861
      @aarenhaggins2861 3 роки тому +4

      @@Q.B.2.L.B. simp

    • @Q.B.2.L.B.
      @Q.B.2.L.B. 3 роки тому +2

      @@aarenhaggins2861 only fo yo mamma...😄😄

    • @aarenhaggins2861
      @aarenhaggins2861 3 роки тому +2

      @@Q.B.2.L.B. simp

  • @a1abama
    @a1abama 3 роки тому +30

    In 93, the black population was 7%. According to the 2010 census, it had grown to 25%. Interestingly, between 2010 and 2019, Belleville lost 8.4% of its population. It seems “white flight” has come to Belleville.

    • @christinehickey9301
      @christinehickey9301 2 роки тому

      yes it has.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 Рік тому +8

      Cahokia is even worse, it was over 50% white in 2000, but in 2010 was over 50% black. And for Belleville, it's now more so in 2020, with the census showing over 30% black. It's now estimated to be 33% black in 2023 with the white population dropping to 56%. And the city dropped a whopping 6% of its population overall, the largest drop of any city in Illinois. White flight isn't just Cahokia and Belleville, Fairview Heights now has over 30% black population, and like the other two also dropped overall in numbers. White flight is all over the Metro East as many have moved far, far away.

  • @Jellbells23
    @Jellbells23 4 роки тому +351

    “We stopped most of them”
    So nonchalant. So shameless. Disgusting.

    • @williama.3652
      @williama.3652 4 роки тому +8

      Till this day east St Louis is still a violent city.

    • @FatherofFFD
      @FatherofFFD 4 роки тому +1

      This evil is the sickness that still plagues America!

    • @mikeoo7712
      @mikeoo7712 4 роки тому +7

      Josh Meza you just gonna comment racist sh** on every thread? Don’t write what you won’t say to a mans face

    • @SolaceEasy
      @SolaceEasy 3 роки тому +9

      "We stopped most of them, except for the rapist/robber responsible for the crime wave that wasn't actually from East St Louis."

    • @wildestcowboy2668
      @wildestcowboy2668 Рік тому +2

      How does this city look today....

  • @abdoudiallo3809
    @abdoudiallo3809 4 роки тому +166

    I rather they just came out and said “we dont want blacks here” cause that’s basically all i heard every time they spoke. Don’t hide your racist ways. The whole town racist

    • @MADNEWYORKER914
      @MADNEWYORKER914 4 роки тому +10

      I wouldn't want to live around them, either.

    • @neonnaughtsie4726
      @neonnaughtsie4726 4 роки тому +20

      Go spend an afternoon or evening walking through a fully white neighborhood, and then go do the same in a fully black neighborhood. Then explain to me why racism is a bad thing. I'll wait.

    • @abdoudiallo3809
      @abdoudiallo3809 4 роки тому +5

      Neon Naughtsie whats your argument here lol. Are you trying to say theres more crime in black neighborhoods so thats why racism is good? Im genuinely confused

    • @rocknroll7065
      @rocknroll7065 4 роки тому +3

      There is racism everywhere including east St Louis they don't want whites there

    • @MADNEWYORKER914
      @MADNEWYORKER914 4 роки тому +7

      @@neonnaughtsie4726
      And when have you walked through a black neighborhood??? Probably never. And we all saw what happens when a black jogs through a white neighborhood, ask Ahmaud Arbery, you phukk boy!!!

  • @xhir2012
    @xhir2012 4 роки тому +168

    I live in Belleville and there's still a lot of racism in this city, especially the Chief of Police.

    • @bms0294
      @bms0294 4 роки тому +17

      That's really sad and white people wonder what is the problem🙄

    • @47MJG
      @47MJG 4 роки тому +11

      Are you kidding me? The Chief of Police is black, and his son is an associate judge.

    • @buckwiild2101
      @buckwiild2101 4 роки тому +8

      I agree our city sadly is still VERY racist today it's a damn shame !

    • @xhir2012
      @xhir2012 4 роки тому +15

      @F. Friedrich Kling Hauss I live there too! I also have investment property in Edwardsville and Dupo if you're looking to transition from your mobile home 😃

    • @johnsecord8539
      @johnsecord8539 4 роки тому +6

      They just don’t want the community ruined.

  • @Califresh21
    @Califresh21 4 роки тому +140

    Imagine if we had cameras back then

    • @joestiloski2421
      @joestiloski2421 4 роки тому +10

      They did.

    • @Califresh21
      @Califresh21 4 роки тому +8

      Joe Stiloski iPhones aka smart phones then mr. Obvious

    • @JJ-fq4nl
      @JJ-fq4nl 3 роки тому +2

      We did have cameras. Big camcorders with vhs 📼 tape to record on compared to the little phones we have now.

    • @Califresh21
      @Califresh21 3 роки тому +2

      @@JJ-fq4nl i know it my momma used 2 lug that thing round on her shoulder all the time when we was little

    • @RS-dm4yo
      @RS-dm4yo 2 роки тому

      As soon as I saw your comment, I knew they would come.
      WTF did you all think he meant?? Stupid!!

  • @nkelmorgan40
    @nkelmorgan40 4 роки тому +257

    I'm from East St. Louis. Sadly, this story is presently, still true.

    • @NewarkBrickCity1970
      @NewarkBrickCity1970 4 роки тому +8

      Is that iron gate still standing?

    • @nkelmorgan40
      @nkelmorgan40 4 роки тому +5

      @@NewarkBrickCity1970 Not that I can recall

    • @tyreex8727
      @tyreex8727 4 роки тому +1

      Yes. They just unlock it in the day time.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 3 роки тому +13

      @@tyreex8727 why? It's all black in there now! The west side of Belleville has become 102% black!

    • @tyreex8727
      @tyreex8727 3 роки тому +2

      @@jackson5116 you are right. I live in the 74th street area. Been in Belleville over 35 years. I been harassed by police a lot in 1986 through 1994. It's always a case of mistaken identity. At a certain time at night they still lock those gates. Where the gates are located there are still a lot of racist whites in that wooded area.

  • @RomeGoLARGE
    @RomeGoLARGE 4 роки тому +185

    Thanks for uploading this. Shows absolutely nothing has changed

    • @RomeGoLARGE
      @RomeGoLARGE 4 роки тому +1

      @E. P. I never thought it. Somehow society believed it did.

    • @kevintkisovec4429
      @kevintkisovec4429 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly. It shows that nothing has changed. Blacks will never become among the rest of the country's self supporting, self respecting, people who respect other people.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 3 роки тому +4

      Except Belleville has become black on the west side where that was filmed. You won't find a single white person there today unless they're buying drugs. And that's NOT a stereotype, you go to that part of Belleville, you better be going during the day!

    • @sticksnstonespatriot1728
      @sticksnstonespatriot1728 3 роки тому +1

      @@jackson5116 Agreed. It's bad. My family has lived there for 60 years.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 3 роки тому

      After every major "race riot" in the US in the 201h and 21st centuries, Congress has voted to have a Commission to investigate and to make recommendations in order to avoid these type of riots in the future. Every Commission has determined that every riot stemmed from the same issues and every Commission put forth many of the same suggestions. However, not a single recommendation has ever been implemented, and that's why we continue to see not only race riots, but also inequality and prejudice between races in the US. If you'd like to read the reasons and recommendations, just look up the most extensive and well known commission, The Kerner Comm.

  • @jefferybrown6473
    @jefferybrown6473 4 роки тому +22

    FYI, a lot of the wealthy whites in Belleville in 93, have moved out to the richer whiter cities over the past decades.

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 4 роки тому +6

      I was thinking the same thing. The Westside of Belleville hasn't changed much. It's now just in Smithon and Freeburg.

    • @kevinthomas522
      @kevinthomas522 4 роки тому +2

      They may have gentrified the town for some blacks to move in.

    • @stephenmonike1906
      @stephenmonike1906 6 місяців тому +2

      Just like they did in e.st.louis, and when they moved out it wasn't a ghetto then, blame yourselfs.

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut 4 місяці тому

      Why wouldn't they? The point of earning money is to escape living with poor people (of any color) and has been throughout history. No one is excluded or harmed thereby and if the new residents want a nice stable safe town they are free to make it that way.

  • @chrisbridges655
    @chrisbridges655 3 роки тому +29

    Notice how the police chief was sweating in that interview. Say a lot.

  • @Solmom03
    @Solmom03 4 роки тому +111

    Racism on full view at its finest.
    And where are they now?

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 4 роки тому +15

      I'm interested to know how long the chief and mayor remained in office. I suppose a quick Google search will do that. I cannot believe this wasn't national news. No, yes, I can.

    • @DebraInVegas
      @DebraInVegas 4 роки тому +2

      Still a huge metro bedroom community next to an Air Force Base with a lot more black residents! Lived in the next town over and went to Belleville Area College which was renamed Southwestern Illinois College! I was treated like crap by many in authority and general jerks because I wasn't black or white and my family had a successful business! Not all were racist, not all were good people, some were just as crappy to their own - just entitled and selfish! But it was absolutely KNOWN where you should and shouldn't be though & where to avoid if you didn't want to be pulled over!

    • @pattimaeda6097
      @pattimaeda6097 4 роки тому +1

      You get the neighborhood you deserve

    • @sfamoramarco
      @sfamoramarco 4 роки тому +4

      I was not a resident of Belleville in the 90s. I moved here in 2014. The Belleville I know is NOT the Belleville from this 27 year old report.
      The Belleville I know is diverse, and cosmopolitan, and less segregated than St. Louis across the river.
      Here's a headline from today, in that same Signal Hill neighborhood.
      www.bnd.com/news/local/article243470351.html

    • @twmcmahan
      @twmcmahan 4 роки тому +5

      I live in Signal Hill. 3 of my 4 neighbors are black.

  • @jc19766
    @jc19766 4 роки тому +21

    When I was living in Montgomery, AL, one of my co-workers was from Belleville. He was the most racist person I met during my whole time spent in the South.

  • @dk-wl6mg
    @dk-wl6mg 4 роки тому +115

    You can see the lies in the police chief’s eyes. The eyes can tell you a lot about a person

    • @teriw56
      @teriw56 4 роки тому +6

      d k , and the slight, ever so slight smirk on his lips. Look very close. Micro expressions do tell.

    • @janielaine
      @janielaine 4 роки тому +7

      His eyes are going different directions

    • @komahoby
      @komahoby 4 роки тому +2

      @@janielaine LMAO

    • @Waitukubuli
      @Waitukubuli 4 роки тому +1

      @@adrienneflowers2237 , "The Secret in their eyes" - great movie

    • @HKim0072
      @HKim0072 4 роки тому +1

      He’s not lying. He’s pretty honest about his policies and his brain kicks in occasionally to not sound “racist”.

  • @NishanthRajiwtbawlb
    @NishanthRajiwtbawlb 3 роки тому +51

    I’m from chicago: there’s a lot of segregation here, but east St. Louis is one of the poorest places I’ve seen, a grave injustice

    • @enochmla
      @enochmla 3 роки тому +4

      And this is the "richest" country in the world....beyond sad.

    • @cosettelaplante699
      @cosettelaplante699 3 роки тому +2

      Watts, California is pretty poor... my grandpa lived and worked there for over 70 years.

    • @mrike5651
      @mrike5651 3 роки тому +3

      Well now shootings going up and this is the result of trying to make evil good but as they say what you reap you will sew

    • @flipnotrab
      @flipnotrab 2 роки тому +4

      @@cosettelaplante699 I’m originally from SoCal and spent a lot of time around Watts, Gardena, and other areas like them. Spent 50/50 of my time in St. Louis area and SoCal through my 20’s and 30’s. Trust me on this. East St. Louis is a WHOLE different animal compared to cities around LA. 24 hour bars, strip clubs, and just about any vice a person could want there. Very odd.

    • @urbanurchin5930
      @urbanurchin5930 2 роки тому

      @@mrike5651 ......sew with a needle and thread......reap what you SOW........illiteracy will doom this country........

  • @drustories9857
    @drustories9857 4 роки тому +418

    I worked in this area around 2005....
    It was the MOST racist place I’ve ever been. This video explains a lot.

    • @Dirtwhistlegristle
      @Dirtwhistlegristle 4 роки тому +32

      Man I am 28 and have lived in St. Louis area all my life but I just moved to the city about six years ago. I once worked for a company called Rebel out of Belleville Illinois. One day at work one of the co-workers said “oh don’t you know Belleville is racist against the blacks” and I said no what are you talking about?! He laughed it off but NOW is see what he was referring too.

    • @DIVISIONINCISION
      @DIVISIONINCISION 4 роки тому +10

      But would you want to work or live where you're not wanted? That's the important question.

    • @Dirtwhistlegristle
      @Dirtwhistlegristle 4 роки тому +4

      DIVISIONINCISION no I would not

    • @ramblinsteven2554
      @ramblinsteven2554 4 роки тому +11

      True true. I lived there many years ago and it was racist as could be.

    • @UrbanENT9629
      @UrbanENT9629 4 роки тому +2

      DIVISIONINCISION you really don’t get it

  • @nef4319
    @nef4319 4 роки тому +161

    Thank you for be WILLING to have the conversation about systemic racism in America.

    • @mytoesarecold5555
      @mytoesarecold5555 4 роки тому +4

      TheSushiraw - systemic racism DEFINITELY leads to desperation. Therefore, higher crime rates.

    • @nef4319
      @nef4319 4 роки тому +1

      @mississippi proud @mississippi proud "there is no systemic racism in america...""...get educated..."
      The irony is never lost on willfully ignorant trolls like Mississippi proud desperate for attention. Who TF are you to tell me what my lived experience is or isn't?
      Now, let me climb down to your level. Read your senseless comment and tell the world which of us should have stayed in school.
      You are an embarrassment to our country and to those who might call you family. FOH!

    • @sticksnstonespatriot1728
      @sticksnstonespatriot1728 3 роки тому +2

      We need to have a conversation about systematic weeve use....
      Lol 😆 🤣

    • @nef4319
      @nef4319 3 роки тому +3

      @@sticksnstonespatriot1728 Lets start with early Europeans and who inspired their wigs. Then we can move on to early American politricksters and judges.
      #WhIGpartyRiot LMAO

    • @zazasnruntz7505
      @zazasnruntz7505 2 роки тому

      @@sticksnstonespatriot1728 how about having a conversation with whytes about systemic meth use

  • @jonathonengel5027
    @jonathonengel5027 2 роки тому +6

    Integration destroyed Belleville.

  • @heatherhopfinger3942
    @heatherhopfinger3942 2 роки тому +9

    Belleville Illinois was pretty safe before 1989 truth

    • @donguess4332
      @donguess4332 Рік тому +3

      Yep and that's why this police chief was right.

  • @butchvito
    @butchvito 2 роки тому +16

    Don't worry, Belleville has plenty of diversity now days. Along with a higher crime rate.

  • @themaninthesuit5729
    @themaninthesuit5729 3 роки тому +17

    The difference between East St. Louis and Belleville is like the difference between Paris and Kandahar. East St. Louis looks and feels like a third world country, and it is a scary, SCARY, place.

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 2 роки тому +1

      I agree. It’s so weird to me that this area still keeps east St. Louis almost like it’s a town on another island.

  • @strelokblackburn4651
    @strelokblackburn4651 2 роки тому +7

    "U need black employees ". No u need competent employees regardless of ski Color

  • @calroach1
    @calroach1 4 роки тому +30

    I can’t watch this. Hate and iignorance is in some people’s DNA..

  • @Alwaysbetonblack1
    @Alwaysbetonblack1 Рік тому +5

    Belleville is still racist, all the way to Ofallon too….ain’t nothing changed but the weather

  • @The-Man-Right-Chea
    @The-Man-Right-Chea 4 роки тому +36

    Alot of these old racial videos are popping up since George Floyd protest

    • @trustme7660
      @trustme7660 4 роки тому +2

      It’s to fuel the fire

    • @resinboi6197
      @resinboi6197 4 роки тому

      Yep its so blatant its unreal they just want more minorities out rioting getter pepper sprayed and thrown in jail and end up having less of a future because they will have a record

    • @trustme7660
      @trustme7660 4 роки тому

      Resin Boi it’s all a distraction from what’s actually going on the worlds in uproar over George Floyd but then again Eric garner died the same way the world want in uproar Tamir rice there’s tons of old videos of African Americans being unjustly killed and attack no protests no movements for them why now why makes his death any better then theres. In Chicago 106 people were shot where’s blm or does it only matter if it’s racial bias

    • @ArrmiaBenton
      @ArrmiaBenton 4 роки тому +3

      In other words, don't shed the light on what's going on, and keep racism hidden, to maintain the status quo and keep white people happy.

    • @trustme7660
      @trustme7660 4 роки тому

      Arrmia Benton so your a saying rioting and burning down towns is okay gotcha and not all whites are the same and not all blacks are the same

  • @she103.5
    @she103.5 4 роки тому +28

    That's how MOST (emphasizing MOST) white Americans feel all over America from east to west to north to south, except that they keep it to themselves.

    • @salshoban-dallmayr1774
      @salshoban-dallmayr1774 4 роки тому +1

      isn’t that sad ?

    • @salshoban-dallmayr1774
      @salshoban-dallmayr1774 4 роки тому

      Robert Henidricks yeah but isn’t that sad ? don’t you not want that to be true ? like yeah everyone regardless of race, sex, or age has some time of prejudice within them because there’s no way in our socialization to avoid having it somewhere. the truth is people don’t keep it to themselves. they show it in subtle ways that they may not even realize. in coded language, maybe in who they hire, maybe even in which actors they like more than others. the whole point is that it is true and it ruins and sometimes ends people’s lives. i know it doesn’t seem like it on a small scale but a beach doesn’t look like billions of tiny grains of sand either. it’s when they all come together that you see what it is.

    • @robertdipaola3447
      @robertdipaola3447 4 роки тому

      You sir are a pathetic raceist

    • @gennadeau5543
      @gennadeau5543 4 роки тому +1

      Ya cause you personally know almost every single white person in America.

    • @deescott8312
      @deescott8312 4 роки тому +1

      Amat Amat so true, they pretend they don’t see color but they are as racist as ever

  • @SixBeasts1
    @SixBeasts1 4 роки тому +11

    Can't see why wanting to keep crap out of your city is a bad thing.

  • @YoloJakers
    @YoloJakers Рік тому +4

    i dont blame belleville trying to do something, no one wants their city to end up like east st. louis

  • @teriw56
    @teriw56 4 роки тому +49

    Thst Police Chief’s sweaty upper lip sure looks suspicious, just an observation.

    • @davidhutchinson7888
      @davidhutchinson7888 4 роки тому +1

      Should have asked him the same stupidass questions they ask everyone else.
      Have you had any alcohol sir? What about drugs, any drugs on you? Can you account for your whereabouts? Have you recently been to any bars?

  • @robertjiggetts9074
    @robertjiggetts9074 4 роки тому +9

    Belleville has always been racist. When I was stationed at Scott Air Force base I attempted to go to a movie while in uniform in Belleville; but was not allowed because of my skin color! ! Mind you this took place in 1957 .

    • @forgottonbabyforgottendeca1483
      @forgottonbabyforgottendeca1483 2 роки тому

      Most definitely that was 1957 they didn't care if you were in uniform or not that wasn't just Belleville that was 1957

  • @v12tommy
    @v12tommy Рік тому +6

    East St Louis is a giant cesspool. No wonder the residents wanted to keep all that crime and stuff out of their town. I don't blame them one bit. I can't say I agree with their tactics, although it appears the tactics were successful, albeit with some collateral damage.

  • @OHNO-k9l
    @OHNO-k9l 4 роки тому +8

    And now the drugs are affecting their communities.

  • @snowglider400
    @snowglider400 2 роки тому +7

    now city of Belleville ill become east stl.

  • @charlessedlacek5754
    @charlessedlacek5754 3 роки тому +2

    Cannot blame them...nobody wants their town to look like east st. Louis.who lives in east st. Louis? Why does east st. Louis look like it does?.

  • @maximumblackness
    @maximumblackness 4 роки тому +45

    The PAIN in that black father's eyes!

    • @stefanosprokopis3917
      @stefanosprokopis3917 3 роки тому

      Nothing worse than being harassed when you're nothing but a law abiding, hard working citizen. As if the police cant tell the difference between a decent person and someone who's up to no good. That man your referring to looked about as decent as anyone. To be harassed means he was cos of his skin color. Very sad.

    • @maximumblackness
      @maximumblackness 3 роки тому +1

      @@stefanosprokopis3917 It still happens daily

  • @brittoncoil2518
    @brittoncoil2518 2 роки тому +7

    Belleville is becoming East st.louis now sadly🤧😢

  • @patrickderp1044
    @patrickderp1044 2 роки тому +4

    pigget lane in east saint louis. thats where people take cars they steal from bellevillle. you can either reduce crime and be called racist or have your life torn apart by savages. i have yet to hear any better ideas

  • @Richard_K1630
    @Richard_K1630 4 роки тому +39

    Sundown Town.

  • @JohnnyFontane528
    @JohnnyFontane528 3 роки тому +5

    Yeah those people want to keep their town nice and safe. How dare they!!

  • @ronque23
    @ronque23 4 роки тому +18

    When that one sanitation worker started work the good townsfolk probably lined the streets of his route to work hurling racial slurs at him everyday he was on the job and WHILE he was picking up their trash.

  • @mdmarko
    @mdmarko Рік тому +2

    East St. Louis had nearly 80,000 people at one time, now less than 20,000. The entire area is going down the tubes.

  • @neatneat9088
    @neatneat9088 4 роки тому +11

    A wall or a gate may keep some people out, but you also imprison yourself.

    • @rocknroll7065
      @rocknroll7065 4 роки тому

      They aren't oblivious they just won't acknowledge it

  • @AidanMonaghan
    @AidanMonaghan 4 роки тому +3

    Blame those committing the crime, not those who want safe communities.

  • @Burps___
    @Burps___ 3 роки тому +23

    For any non-minority commenters that feel integration is the mission of your government as opposed to individuals, never forget that you are always free to buy a home, send your kids to school, and establish a life in East St Louis.

    • @tt2b756
      @tt2b756 2 роки тому +2

      People shouldn’t have to integrate themselves into a more dangerous area in order to advocate diversity. I also don’t think it’s the government’s responsibility to diversify communities. Every individual should made decisions based upon their own needs and wants. Nothing is stopping colored men from buying houses in white communities, they most likely chose not to, or make decisions that prevent them from being qualified for such purchases based on character and not color. Same as gated suburban primarily white community members chose not to move to places like the East stl where it’s a prominently black community. Not for a concern of race, but more of a concern of safety. I would be more than happy to see more people moving out of dangerous communities and rather upset to see more people move into, more dangerous, lower income communities. Despite race or culture every human should strive to move forward and progress socially and economically. It’s would be the opposite of progress for white people to move to a more dangerous area of a city Jus for diversity. Would make more sense for colored people to move to a less dangerous area to advocate such integration(Not that all of E STL is bad, I’m aware there are a few nice communities in the area)

    • @tt2b756
      @tt2b756 2 роки тому +2

      Basically what I’m sayin is, for any colored folks who feel it’s the mission of white people to integrate communities, just remember you are more than welcome to purchase a house in a prominently white community, send your kids to their public school, and establish a life in a suburb.

  • @daniel_najar
    @daniel_najar 4 роки тому +20

    A rod iron gate was built on the edge of the city clearly separating Belleville and East St.Louis
    Steve Croft: "If I lived in east saint louis and I was black I'd look at this and I'd say message is pretty clear. Those people don't want me over here.
    Racist Guy - "I would probably feel that way"
    Steve Croft: "Does that bother you?"
    Racist Guy: "No sir, I didn't put it up"
    Steve Croft: "But you approve of it?"
    Racist Guy: "I don't disapprove of it."

    • @georgfriedrichhandel4390
      @georgfriedrichhandel4390 4 роки тому +9

      Read between the lines: "Yes I approve" is what racist guy is really saying.

    • @tamalyncervin2117
      @tamalyncervin2117 4 роки тому

      Daniel Najar - Insert Gilbert Keith Chesterton's article "The Drift from Domesticity" here and wait for a logical response...

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak 4 роки тому +4

      I'd like to know how they fundraised to get the money to build the gate. Did they hold "Bake Sales for Racism"? This disgusts me. One sad part is that this SHOULD HAVE caused, at the very least, a nationwide discussion immediately after the article came out, but and even worse, is that it received no coverage even after airing on "60 Minutes" . I'm sure everyone, or every white viewer, watching it assumed this outright racism was only limited to these 2 cities. We've had protest after protest since MLK's first nationally aired walk. Yet, almost nothing has changed. I didn't agree at all with the destruction of property-- the burning of buildings and cars-- on 2 nights 2 weeks ago, but it may have been the ONLY thing that got racism the attention it deserves and has deserved for decades, over a century. I don't think this foresight is what prompted racism into becoming and garnering a national, now international, spotlight, but it did just that. Therefore, I'm glad that the very limited destruction and looting happened. It's a small price for insurance companies to pay for the good, finally & hopefully, that it has done -- a very small price indeed.

    • @THANOS736
      @THANOS736 4 роки тому +2

      You SEEN THE SMIRKING SMILE When he said that.
      He's Down with the White Supremacist Movement.
      He has No problem with his Prejudice.

    • @DebraInVegas
      @DebraInVegas 4 роки тому +1

      B Bodziak Most likely privately funded like any of the gated communities nowadays - rich neighbor on a very small road that nobody would use regardless of the gate being there or not! Just another way to assert their feelings in case it wasn't already clear!

  • @Redman11829
    @Redman11829 4 роки тому +23

    This is America where the societies are divided so deep. 2050 will be more divided.

  • @johnwest7463
    @johnwest7463 Рік тому +4

    Well compare the two why is there more crime in the black neighborhood than the white neighborhood

    • @woke49
      @woke49 Рік тому

      poverty=crime

  • @leonh619
    @leonh619 4 роки тому +37

    This guy is disgusting- i remember when I was about 11 yrs old, my parents watched 60 minutes religiously, I watched this show for about 8 years without missing an episode... the sad thing is that 27 years later, it's somehow still relevant...

  • @superdavelane4
    @superdavelane4 4 роки тому +3

    That chiefs eyes are as crooked as the department he works for.

    • @superdavelane4
      @superdavelane4 4 роки тому

      @coffeeinthemorning yeah, hes lying. Gangs invading a sundown town is like a roaches storming an orkin office.

  • @warren411
    @warren411 4 роки тому +31

    But but wait people like Candace Owens say things like this don't happen anymore in the USA.

    • @carrieullrich5059
      @carrieullrich5059 4 роки тому +5

      Because Candice Owens is dumb enough to believe that hundreds of personal hate messages to her from Trump supporting email accounts, was really the fault of of one white woman. Can't fix how stupid she is.

    • @warren411
      @warren411 4 роки тому +1

      @Rocky Fletch so White people don't commit crimes??? do you know that Reagan and Bush Colonel Oliver North ran one of the biggest drugs and guns programs into the u. S..

    • @travr6
      @travr6 4 роки тому +2

      @Rocky Fletch Facts destroy the liberal narrative so they do not allow them to be posted.

    • @warren411
      @warren411 4 роки тому

      @Rocky Fletch compare status of most discriminated group

    • @warren411
      @warren411 4 роки тому +1

      @Rocky Fletch ua-cam.com/video/C6aO2lC2tdE/v-deo.html the Discrimination that these people suffer did not allow them or the children to progress they could not send their kids to colleges they could not invest in their own business but yet you see no problem with that

  • @UncleJ4
    @UncleJ4 4 роки тому +4

    The neighborhood put the gate up because of crime and people were using it for a short cut.

  • @uncapabrew4807
    @uncapabrew4807 Рік тому +3

    I’ve been pulled over ESL Illinois I’m white Black cop Took all our cash and let Go .

  • @beckyparker1532
    @beckyparker1532 2 роки тому +2

    Why doesn't the media ever focus on all asian or hispanic neighborhoods? It seems that blacks are determined to live among whites but not the least bit interested living among asians or hispanics. Why is that?

  • @brianchase9251
    @brianchase9251 Рік тому +3

    Is it really shocking that a nice, safe area where property values are high, would want to keep it that way?

  • @wolfsoldier5105
    @wolfsoldier5105 4 роки тому +6

    This was many years ago and the people that lived there PRAISED that sheriff for keeping crime out of Belleville! I mean wouldn't you?....NOW since that sheriff is gone and things have changed, have you seen the crime rate NOW in that area?...."The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Belleville is 1 in 26. Based on FBI crime data, Belleville is NOT one of the safest communities in America. Relative to Illinois, Belleville has a crime rate that is higher than 93% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes.".........And East St louis IS STILL a war zone!......I don't know about you but I prefer to live in areas with no crime!

  • @MissSkyeWright
    @MissSkyeWright 3 роки тому +31

    when my parents split I lived in ESTL w/ my mom and in the summer I’d live in Belleville with my dad! man it was like living in two different worlds

    • @wethujonga8681
      @wethujonga8681 2 роки тому +1

      🥺

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 2 роки тому +4

      It’s also changed a lot. It’s more intersting to me now is that most of east Louis is torn down and a lot of us East St. Louis folks moved to Belleville haha.

  • @advantageous111
    @advantageous111 Рік тому +3

    Unfortunately, and I saw someone comment this, belleville actually has begun to see businesses leave, crime rates go up, and a lot of the schools are starting to become underfunded. Meanwhile, since this video has come out, the population of East St. Louis has fallen to a fourth of what it was and it seems like less when you go through it.

  • @jsoo67
    @jsoo67 3 роки тому +12

    Lol Belleville is my birthtown. I remember that McDonald's. Funny thing is the area my grandparents lived in is now the hood.

  • @mackey4113
    @mackey4113 4 роки тому +16

    60 minutes tryna start somethin bringing this back!! 😂 I love it

  • @StreakyBaconMan
    @StreakyBaconMan 3 роки тому +3

    That police sheriffs lips even sweat when he says that they don't target black people. Never trust a person who can sweat from their lips.

  • @greg167
    @greg167 2 роки тому +2

    I have an idea STOP doing crimes and then everyone will get along.

  • @VictorLopez-ff1mf
    @VictorLopez-ff1mf 4 роки тому +1

    Did the police only harass Black motorists from East St.Louis? So if some young Black men were walking or taking public transportation or an Uber were they harass??? If not, then folks need to update and be in compliance with the law surrounding car insurance and their drivers license . And it wasn't a black/white thing.

  • @CoolGirl-wf7nt
    @CoolGirl-wf7nt 4 роки тому +13

    The American Way, Create a Ghetto and then bemoan its inhabitants

  • @LillysConner
    @LillysConner 4 роки тому +10

    Please upload more of these videos for the people asking why the protest!!

    • @ronbaggett572
      @ronbaggett572 4 роки тому

      Protest is understandable,looting,burning, killings not understandable!

  • @Slammy555
    @Slammy555 2 роки тому +3

    I grew up in Belleville, they did the same to white teens,

  • @guitarman813
    @guitarman813 3 роки тому +5

    When Beyond Scared Straight aired, a few episodes were filmed in St. Clair County Jail. After watching this, I can see why crime was so far high around this area, especially when it came to black people being convicted. Even nearly 30 years on from this video, racism and segregation is still a big problem in the U.S.A. Not just in these two cities.

  • @michaeljoseph3528
    @michaeljoseph3528 4 роки тому +2

    How demonic. Belleville is not a Christian city. Please say a prayer for thier souls.

  • @Wolfsky9
    @Wolfsky9 4 роки тому +4

    I spent one year of my life in East St Louis , from summer of '59, to June of 1960. -----------The flight to Belleville, including my Mom's husband's family, had already happened when I got there, at age 12 to age 13 : 8th grade. -----------My time in East St Louis was difficult, but it wasn't the fault of any of the black residents. ----------My mom's husband's Polish family didn't like me --------and I was never welcome in their home. --------------------WolfSky9, 73 y/o

  • @davidcjones3100
    @davidcjones3100 4 роки тому +4

    I WONDER IF THE POLICE WOULD'VE ARRESTED A MINISTER WEARING HIS WHITE COLLAR.

  • @eddiemcfadden4386
    @eddiemcfadden4386 4 роки тому +3

    Never go anywhere you arent wanted period.

    • @davidortiz3094
      @davidortiz3094 4 роки тому +2

      True. That place looks boring af anyway.

  • @MADNEWYORKER914
    @MADNEWYORKER914 4 роки тому +23

    This stuff is going on all over the country. Illinois has a plethora of towns like this. "The book Sun Down Towns, A Hidden Dimension of American Racism" talk all about this stuff starting in the "Nadir" era 1890-1930 all the way to 2004 when the book was written. And it's still going on in 2020!!!

    • @JohnSmith-ct5jd
      @JohnSmith-ct5jd Рік тому

      I bet you live in a white neighborhood yourself though and sure as heck would not move to a black neighborhood, would you? Easy to sound self-righteous isn't it?

    • @MADNEWYORKER914
      @MADNEWYORKER914 Рік тому

      @@JohnSmith-ct5jd
      Get phukkk out of here!!!
      I grew up in the hood, and proud of it!!! I never lived in some 🌽-e @$$ white neighborhood.

  • @dhill5171
    @dhill5171 2 роки тому +4

    I'm looking at this video 29 years later almost 30 years later to the date. The family interviewed was extremely racist. Police chief smiling, mayor smiling and police department seemed very much like the leadership of the city. With the thirty year anniversary approaching it would be nice if we could back back and interview everyone in the video including the officers from that time period.

  • @kevinjenkins6986
    @kevinjenkins6986 3 роки тому +3

    One of my college professors said it best: in the north, blacks are equal, but whites don’t want them around. In the south, whites don’t mind having blacks around, but they aren’t equal. Border states have a mix of the two. Side note: what does it mean to Harris someone?! 😂

  • @KingSlimjeezy
    @KingSlimjeezy 2 роки тому +2

    people saying this is an injustive never lived in black neighborhoods
    even blacks dont want to live in black neighborhoods

  • @jasminereed1467
    @jasminereed1467 4 роки тому +3

    I fact that I lived in both cities are insane 😐

  • @mikeneil798
    @mikeneil798 3 роки тому +1

    Being a racist is NOT ILLEGAL. This is America we don't have to get along
    Its what you DO with that attitude is the problem

  • @cop39fl
    @cop39fl 2 роки тому +3

    i don't think anyone wants racist behavior, but being born and raised in chicago...there were always boundry lines between black and white neighborhoods, the black neighborhoods were formerly white and the people bought the house way under valued.....( dispells the red line myth ) it was generally accepted: you don't garass anyone: going to and from work at a bus stop, postal workers or anyone in general support their family, each side would rather socialize with their own race, they don't mind working together,,,when its time to go home they want to be around their own culture.

  • @JohnSmith-gg9jm
    @JohnSmith-gg9jm 4 роки тому +12

    this is the era that trump is stuck in...when being a racist was out in the open. His father was racist. The fruit dosnt fall far from the tree.

    • @charlesberry468
      @charlesberry468 4 роки тому +2

      Exactly! Trump inherited his racism from his dad

    • @JohnSmith-gg9jm
      @JohnSmith-gg9jm 4 роки тому

      @Lynn Hexler-Haan apple is a fruit, geeeze....It also means the orange dosnt fall far from the tree...Its multicultural.

  • @reginamartinez6482
    @reginamartinez6482 4 роки тому +2

    If your looking to keep someone out then why ticket them? They have to come back to go to court.

  • @jnanashakti6036
    @jnanashakti6036 4 роки тому +13

    Eyeglass fashion of the 90's NEEDS TO COME BACK!

    • @rachaunadixon2768
      @rachaunadixon2768 2 роки тому

      Noooo lol. That dudes glasses could start a fire on a sunny day.

  • @carlosbardales4179
    @carlosbardales4179 2 роки тому +1

    Nothing really has changed and most likely never will. Culturally blacks and whites are very distant and there is no will for meeting somewhere in the middle. Even more less now that demogrphics are changing so much in America. A very large amount of whites feel their 1950s America is going away and will fight to preserve it in their own ways.

  • @namewithheldbyrequest1218
    @namewithheldbyrequest1218 3 роки тому +3

    I grew up in Belleville 1963 - 1969 and East St. Louis was regarded as dangerous way back then. In my high school there were only 2 black students who were siblings.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 Рік тому

      you should see the racial makeup of Belleville today, it's become far more black than those 12 year olds on here posting how they're from Belleville when they're not think.

  • @heatherhopfinger3942
    @heatherhopfinger3942 5 місяців тому +1

    Oh and guess what he is a resident of Illinois so who ever he votes for you are stuck with

  • @kingbuck427
    @kingbuck427 4 роки тому +12

    The first lady being interviewed was beautiful. I miss black women looking like that and wearing their own hair.

  • @cbsregg1620
    @cbsregg1620 3 роки тому +2

    Some of these police should be in prison for a long time

  • @wildc44
    @wildc44 4 роки тому +4

    This is why America will never be great.

  • @stephenwalters5572
    @stephenwalters5572 Рік тому +1

    I'm from st Louis across the river. Illinois is a cancer all together. People move where their families are safe. If you don't want predudice, stop commiting crimes. I will NEVER go to east st Louis. If you want to be respected, be respectful.

  • @mhoward6619
    @mhoward6619 4 роки тому +5

    Belleville is better now and more integrated but the "white flight" continues. Those that can afford to move to other "largely white towns" in the county or to other counties in the area further away from ESTL.

    • @rvegas81
      @rvegas81 4 роки тому +3

      I agree. This area is a lot more diverse. Highland and Mascotah are growing like crazy. Which I figured, they haven't had a lot of big box stores come in yet. Belleville's city hall looks much different now!

    • @Comm0ut
      @Comm0ut 6 місяців тому +1

      Of course they leave but the US cannot have an honest discussion about the practical reasons why.

    • @mhoward6619
      @mhoward6619 6 місяців тому

      @@Comm0ut Well, that's probably because everybody knows the reasons, but no one wants to have to be the one to sacrifice in order to change it.

  • @GRSEMETROMALL
    @GRSEMETROMALL 10 місяців тому

    You tell your 5 yo. Son the truth.

  • @darlacarter3459
    @darlacarter3459 3 роки тому +8

    Fairview Heights, IL too. They pulled Me over and Thank God My Husband was still in His
    Police Uniform following Me and headed Home. Fairview Police pulled Me over and When My Husband got out and asked Him what was the reason for pulling Me over and He was right behind Me before the Cop jumped out at Me, the Fairview Officer said nothing and just walked away.

  • @Boogenhagenn
    @Boogenhagenn Місяць тому +1

    Belleville sucks now because the people from East St Louis moved there

  • @johnmoore4714
    @johnmoore4714 4 роки тому +3

    I don't disapprove of it. How telling 🤔 Steve Kroft was a excellent reporter.

  • @sexxyshandasexxyshanda8667
    @sexxyshandasexxyshanda8667 4 роки тому +99

    There needs to be more people doing this in their cities or the racism will not stop

    • @neonnaughtsie4726
      @neonnaughtsie4726 4 роки тому

      Racism exists for a very good reason.

    • @leonardodalongisland
      @leonardodalongisland 4 роки тому

      Explain why/how racism has been around for as long as man has been around-in every corner of the planet-and you think ANYTHING or anyone can/will change this?

    • @funbomb1102
      @funbomb1102 4 роки тому

      Sexxy Shanda Sexxy Shanda you sexy

    • @zazasnruntz7505
      @zazasnruntz7505 2 роки тому

      @@neonnaughtsie4726 meanwhile your whyte daughters eat black meat for breakfast lunch and dinner 🍆🍆🍆🤣🤣🤣

    • @gaming_sportsaaron1365
      @gaming_sportsaaron1365 Рік тому +3

      @@neonnaughtsie4726so if it exists for a reason, then why are random innocent black people also being treated badly?? And y’all act like y’all didn’t set up black people to this life. so it’s really on yall

  • @Dr.Momodu
    @Dr.Momodu 3 роки тому +1

    1993 to 2021 we are still dealing the same racial issue today.

  • @cookiecuteasapuppy1008
    @cookiecuteasapuppy1008 4 роки тому +28

    I was 10 years old when this documentary was made... It hits close to home because I was born and raised in Venice Illinois... 10 mins from E. St. Louis ....

    • @jamonb7545
      @jamonb7545 4 роки тому +2

      Cookie Cute as a puppy is it still divided like this out there?

    • @cookiecuteasapuppy1008
      @cookiecuteasapuppy1008 4 роки тому +5

      Jamon B You are correct... You still have many who has that same of mind frame... As of today .. Belleville Illinois is very diverse and many from all races, colors and creed reside there ..... I just came across this video.. never in my wildest dreams.. I would see a documentary on how just by the color of your skin.. White privileged would’ve treated us to such nature.. A pretty damning eye opening..

    • @roybohanna996
      @roybohanna996 4 роки тому +1

      @@cookiecuteasapuppy1008 What is Granite City Army Depot now?

    • @ronniepaulinc
      @ronniepaulinc 4 роки тому +1

      hey I know you, you worked in brooklyn! I see you kept your stage name!

    • @cookiecuteasapuppy1008
      @cookiecuteasapuppy1008 4 роки тому +4

      Ronnie Paul .... lol ... ya got the wrong Cookie buddy ..😂🤣... never worked in Brooklyn

  • @Johnny53kgb-nsa
    @Johnny53kgb-nsa 3 роки тому +2

    What a damn shame. Why don't they just wear white sheets to work and around town?

  • @davidcjones3100
    @davidcjones3100 4 роки тому +2

    ITS A SUNDOWN COMMUNITY, NO OTHER REASON, THIS IS WHY REP JOHN LEWIS SAID WE MUST CONTINUE TO GET INTO GOOD TROUBLE.