OMG! this place Is so amazing in so many ways. I just kept thinking of all the great technology ,applications, good that’s gonna come out of all this. Thanks dude!
I really enjoyed Jeff for exactly that reason. Jeff has a very practical approach to where this kind of tech can be extremely useful, but also is very realistic as to when it can actually be a benefit vs traditional machining processes. Thanks for watching!
@@JohnDoe-yq9ml only the ones that talk fast trying to sell you shit... but that's what sales people are supposed to do... they dont like me though because i ask too specific of questions that they can't answer.
What a mighty fascinating company. It must have been great fun walking around there, I can imagine it's hard to believe these technologies and the products they produce, and seeing it being made in front of your eyes. Thanks for this insightful episode Ian!
Thank you very much for checking it out! It was like a candy store - and there’s another episode coming which gets into some other stuff you’re really gonna like!
thx Arnold! CCAT is a fascinating place. We open our doors to the public for open house &/or tours often. For anyone in or passing thru the Hartford, CT area, hit me up!
Subscribed, I've been drawn to your forums plenty over the years via google but had no idea you had a channel. I'm currently a CNC/CAM/CAD Technician (Also get to program/run robots and CMM) for a defence company in southern Sweden but soon I'll be a prototyping technician for an aerospace company further north, can't wait!
That's some amazing technology. It's crazy how much the industry has evolved the past 20 years, I feel like manufacturing is progressing the same way microchips did, by leaps and bounds every year. I have a hard time keeping up with all the new stuff the past several years.
It really is crazy! The fact that metal printing went from insanely expensive and rare to actually being available for production pretty much anywhere you need it is a very exciting development.
@@iansandusky417 I always love your stuff! You're always on point and accurate. I just wish that we could get new energy technologies out into the public domain so that none of us ever again has to deal with the cost of gasoline or electricity. Nature shows us so many ways that those things could be free........
I remember seeing the additive welding technique (WAAM/EBAM) shown off a few years ago at fabtech I think? Project between ORNL and Lincoln to develop it
We agree -- Ian produced an incredible tour! We open our doors to the public for open house &/or tours regularly. If you're in the Hartford, CT area, let us know.
Come to Germany, you would wonder how clean a shop can be. When you do your apprenticeship as a precision machinist you also do your apprenticeship in cleaning 😅
Did you get a chance to look at the DMG Mori and learn what the printing to machine workflow is like? Particularly interested if it can pause printing midway through, send it to the machining side and then resume printing? For internal features that would be inaccessible on the finished part? Also can they reclaim, recycle machined chips back into powder for use on the 3d printers?
From what I understand, the printing head is just like a tool - so you can print, machine, and print all in the same workholding! I don't know about powder or chip reclaim, however. Super cool stuff!
He seemed to indicate that they dispose of the powder and chips as scrap. So it sounds like this shop cannot do this directly, but I wouldn't say it's impossible or not done anywhere. You would likely need clean and melt down the scrap, and blow it through some nozzle while molten in order to get the right particle size for printing. Or grind and separate it through various sieves making sure it's pure metal at the end of the process.
Awesome stuff I’ll probably have to rematch cause a lot went right over my head , information overload. Those DMG machines are sick, I don’t know if you made it to the Joint open house last month DMG Mori didn’t have a lasertec but a “regular” Dmu 85 FD . Looks wise they hit it out of the park. Some of your older videos about trying to get people into the trade show them a place like this
Ian if you are reading this I think this would make a good forum post. In fact these videos should get their own threads on the forum as they would make great platforms for discussion.
We make sure to 'scrub' the lab for anything that is proprietary, sensitive or export controlled for a particular audience. We're grateful to Ian & Practical Machinist for filming episodes at CCAT.
Seeing what looked like an engine block, are things like F1 or top fuel engine blocks made this way? Intricate features could never be cast the way additive build up could.
As someone who owns SLS and other additive machines… my favorite part is when he asks “what kind of companies are incorporating these?”… and the guy took some time to answer before finally kinda throwing out a few vehicle manufacturers…nobody is using this because it is not at all affordable… when you hear “aerospace” you know the justification for this technology is endless tax dollars, government grants, etc… it’s like “green energy and electric cars”… everyone knows it doesn’t make sense but hey… “aerospace”… and tax incentives haha I have very small niches for SLS and I can sell it at rates similar to “aerospace”… but the ridiculous material prices have to come down in cost. Otherwise your sucked into the HP printer model while going broke buying their “ink” 🇺🇸〰️🦅
I guess another major reason for NASA to want a completely additive manuf. engine is process simplification - to have the ability to produce any spare parts or even a whole new engine in remote environments without a whole machine shop, no humans onsite etc.
That's what I was thinking. It opens up a lot of possibilities that are currently the stuff of science fiction. One possibility being the ablility to send space craft to distant places and have them build things in transit autonomously, over the decades it takes to arrive. Or just having remote stations that can manufacture complex parts without needing tooling or support from earth. Imagine trying to mine, smelt, cast, and machine something like a small gear on an asteroid. Being able to chemically process ore into powdered metal and print it directly would be way easier than trying to launch an induction furnace and 5 axis mill into orbit.
cool shop! This merges my love of science with my love of making shit out of metal. I am trying working my way up the tolerance ladder too and just got a new (to me) CMM.
Are additive manufactured parts equal in all characteristics to a traditionally machined parts? flexibility, tensile strength, hardness, etc.? I've seen powdered metal gears that were trash compared to a machined and ground counterpart.
@@dfpolitowski2 Some powdered metal products are superior though. CPM knife steels hold a finer edge longer than their roll forged counterparts at the same Rockwell hardness.
In terms of leading edge..This is a bit conventional/conservative. Its a educational instutute....if you know basic mechanics, material knowledge you learn in "collage"... the "technology" they talk about is just as common as knowing how to use a wrench. Just to describe how the industry is at the moment...its still a edge technology, not verifiable in every situational due to micro structures made by the laser...Simply said... a 10x10x10mm block of 3d printed steel, is not at the same level of traditional casted block..... but we are getting there!
Its cool that state is trying to get there foot into the additive manufacturing space but they really need to have new leadership at this shop and have someone actually going out to the manufacturing companies and working with them to figure out what parts can be 3d printed cheaper than machining or 3d printed to improve the products. Theres alot of opportunity and growth coming for 3d printing and laser sintering but all im seeing here is a cash burner. The state already put up the money just get the right person to work with private industry, otherwise machining compabies are most likely to be the ones finding parts over time that can be 3d printed. It was cool seeing this shop but they really gotta chill out on the charade of pretending they are a manufacturer themselves. There's opportunity here but I dont know who's calling the shots and funding this hobby. Just my 2 cents though
I just want 2 get my 4x4, down off these blocks! so I can have layer tech, in my ''easy bake'' over? awesome! Q: who wants to use this machine? A: Elves! all this stuff came from Germany! yup! they can use about any kind of material, including quality deli cuts! if the world was round U'd get it! Dr. Evil loves U'r vid!
Good video content but you do us a disservice when your camera man doesn't know how to zoom or focus on the very subject of the video... the parts that are being prototyped. It's not a sit-down interview... it's supposed to show us what the CCAT machines can do. The heat exchanger part from the Renishaw device is a perfect example. Learn to ZOOM and FOCUS or make an effort to hold the part steady and closer to the camera. Could have been a great video, but the camera man was more concerned with showing you and everyone else from the waist up in the same frame. Ugh.
Would have been nice if you actually zoomed in on the stuff on the table. The camera work is awful in your videos. Hire someone who can actually capture what we actually came to see. Not this.
This place was CRAZY! What was your favourite part of the CCAT tour?
You ought to try to get up to Turbocam in NH
OMG! this place Is so amazing in so many ways. I just kept thinking of all the great technology ,applications, good that’s gonna come out of all this. Thanks dude!
I like that the man in the 3d printing shop wasn't trying to over sell the tech. He was being honest about the use and capabilities of the machines.
I really enjoyed Jeff for exactly that reason. Jeff has a very practical approach to where this kind of tech can be extremely useful, but also is very realistic as to when it can actually be a benefit vs traditional machining processes. Thanks for watching!
True. I noticed that too and I agree. A lot of people are so cringe and annoying.
@@JohnDoe-yq9ml only the ones that talk fast trying to sell you shit... but that's what sales people are supposed to do... they dont like me though because i ask too specific of questions that they can't answer.
Yeah the the First Lady was annoying
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on additive manufacturing. Incredible information for a machinist in this day and age.
Thank you very much for checking it out!
Thanks for spotlighting tech outside of iPhones. It’s amazing to see how things are made.
What a mighty fascinating company. It must have been great fun walking around there, I can imagine it's hard to believe these technologies and the products they produce, and seeing it being made in front of your eyes. Thanks for this insightful episode Ian!
Thank you very much for checking it out! It was like a candy store - and there’s another episode coming which gets into some other stuff you’re really gonna like!
thx Arnold! CCAT is a fascinating place. We open our doors to the public for open house &/or tours often. For anyone in or passing thru the Hartford, CT area, hit me up!
Subscribed, I've been drawn to your forums plenty over the years via google but had no idea you had a channel. I'm currently a CNC/CAM/CAD Technician (Also get to program/run robots and CMM) for a defence company in southern Sweden but soon I'll be a prototyping technician for an aerospace company further north, can't wait!
I'm an 80 year old retired tool & die maker, and sometime designer. I wish I was 40 or 50 years younger! Fascinating!
Thank you very much for checking it out sir!
That's some amazing technology. It's crazy how much the industry has evolved the past 20 years, I feel like manufacturing is progressing the same way microchips did, by leaps and bounds every year. I have a hard time keeping up with all the new stuff the past several years.
It really is crazy! The fact that metal printing went from insanely expensive and rare to actually being available for production pretty much anywhere you need it is a very exciting development.
Ian, wonderful tour!
I love what these technologies can do. Amazing stuff!
Thanks for doing these tours! :)
My pleasure, thank you very much for checking them out!
@@iansandusky417 I always love your stuff! You're always on point and accurate.
I just wish that we could get new energy technologies out into the public domain so that none of us ever again has to deal with the cost of gasoline or electricity. Nature shows us so many ways that those things could be free........
I remember seeing the additive welding technique (WAAM/EBAM) shown off a few years ago at fabtech I think? Project between ORNL and Lincoln to develop it
Outstanding Tour!
Thank you very much, CCAT is an amazing place with some extremely talented people!
We agree -- Ian produced an incredible tour! We open our doors to the public for open house &/or tours regularly. If you're in the Hartford, CT area, let us know.
Very interesting tour. wow, many options and lots of cool test pieces. That guy is great at explaining things
I’d kill to work in a shop that clean and well maintained.
Come to Germany, you would wonder how clean a shop can be. When you do your apprenticeship as a precision machinist you also do your apprenticeship in cleaning 😅
@@maximiliankrug1011 I'll stay with the grungy shop thank you.
Where can we learn this Advanced Manufacturing Technology for Master Degree...?
Another banger. Thank you Ian 🙏
Thank you very much for checking it out - CCAT and the PM team really killed this one!
Yes great video thank you for sharing!
@@RHINORyan92 our pleasure! Thank you for watching!
I’ve definitely welded parts after a machine crash. I’d like to know more about cost.
Wow
What CAD CAM are they using to drive these machines? Specifically the DMG Laser/CNC Siemens NX maybe?
Dude has an amazing job. So cool.
Did you get a chance to look at the DMG Mori and learn what the printing to machine workflow is like? Particularly interested if it can pause printing midway through, send it to the machining side and then resume printing? For internal features that would be inaccessible on the finished part? Also can they reclaim, recycle machined chips back into powder for use on the 3d printers?
From what I understand, the printing head is just like a tool - so you can print, machine, and print all in the same workholding! I don't know about powder or chip reclaim, however. Super cool stuff!
He seemed to indicate that they dispose of the powder and chips as scrap. So it sounds like this shop cannot do this directly, but I wouldn't say it's impossible or not done anywhere. You would likely need clean and melt down the scrap, and blow it through some nozzle while molten in order to get the right particle size for printing. Or grind and separate it through various sieves making sure it's pure metal at the end of the process.
Absolutely beautiful and motivating
Nice to see Japanese and german machines helping in driving Anerica forward.
Wow that place is awesome! I’ve never seen additive and machining in the one unit!😳
That hybrid machine has so much potential...
🤯Mind Blowing🤯
love to know what cost to vs speed spreadsheet of each process would be. thats pretty awesome non the less.
Who wouldn't want to work in a place like this?
Seriously!
Awesome stuff I’ll probably have to rematch cause a lot went right over my head , information overload.
Those DMG machines are sick, I don’t know if you made it to the Joint open house last month DMG Mori didn’t have a lasertec but a “regular” Dmu 85 FD .
Looks wise they hit it out of the park.
Some of your older videos about trying to get people into the trade show them a place like this
Don’t worry - I had to keep making references I understood because this tech was so far out there! Those DMG’s are absolutely insane!
Henry Babiec on our team is a Master Craftsman on the DMG 👀 check out this video on CCAT's UA-cam channel: ua-cam.com/video/1TwVkAuvGwM/v-deo.html
thanks for sharing
I am so tempted to start a thread on the forum using the question in the video title. I would love for people on the forum to answer that question
Ian if you are reading this I think this would make a good forum post. In fact these videos should get their own threads on the forum as they would make great platforms for discussion.
@@WilliamPayneNZ this is actually a fantastic idea! Thank you very much for the suggestion - please feel free to to do in the meantime!
DO IT!
@@PracticalMachinist which part of the forum would suit this topic best?
We'd love that too!
All of those show pieces look good from afar.
I am actually surprised that they allowed him in there with his camera, considering they're ITAR compliant and all. Great video though.
We make sure to 'scrub' the lab for anything that is proprietary, sensitive or export controlled for a particular audience. We're grateful to Ian & Practical Machinist for filming episodes at CCAT.
Talk about a dream job. I'd love to work there!
Amazing place, isn't it!
Seeing what looked like an engine block, are things like F1 or top fuel engine blocks made this way? Intricate features could never be cast the way additive build up could.
As someone who owns SLS and other additive machines… my favorite part is when he asks “what kind of companies are incorporating these?”… and the guy took some time to answer before finally kinda throwing out a few vehicle manufacturers…nobody is using this because it is not at all affordable… when you hear “aerospace” you know the justification for this technology is endless tax dollars, government grants, etc… it’s like “green energy and electric cars”… everyone knows it doesn’t make sense but hey… “aerospace”… and tax incentives haha
I have very small niches for SLS and I can sell it at rates similar to “aerospace”… but the ridiculous material prices have to come down in cost. Otherwise your sucked into the HP printer model while going broke buying their “ink” 🇺🇸〰️🦅
I guess another major reason for NASA to want a completely additive manuf. engine is process simplification - to have the ability to produce any spare parts or even a whole new engine in remote environments without a whole machine shop, no humans onsite etc.
That's what I was thinking. It opens up a lot of possibilities that are currently the stuff of science fiction. One possibility being the ablility to send space craft to distant places and have them build things in transit autonomously, over the decades it takes to arrive. Or just having remote stations that can manufacture complex parts without needing tooling or support from earth. Imagine trying to mine, smelt, cast, and machine something like a small gear on an asteroid. Being able to chemically process ore into powdered metal and print it directly would be way easier than trying to launch an induction furnace and 5 axis mill into orbit.
cool shop! This merges my love of science with my love of making shit out of metal. I am trying working my way up the tolerance ladder too and just got a new (to me) CMM.
Thanks Husky! Have fun with your new CMM.
Are additive manufactured parts equal in all characteristics to a traditionally machined parts?
flexibility, tensile strength, hardness, etc.?
I've seen powdered metal gears that were trash compared to a machined and ground counterpart.
It is welding so. . .its not too weak. Welding is used for hard surfacing, construction etc... and not all gears have a hard life.
@@dfpolitowski2 Some powdered metal products are superior though. CPM knife steels hold a finer edge longer than their roll forged counterparts at the same Rockwell hardness.
heck ya home state lets go!
The Future has arrived !!!
The additive guy! Top Knotch
Imagine pulling a rocket motor kit off a 3D printer, almost every piece in the same batch. Wild
you watch! i dig it :)
Thank you very much for checking it out!
@@iansandusky417 i mean your wrist watch :p haha, but love the vid series too, thanks :)
@@brianwaayenberg3099 OH! Haha thank you very much - it was a hot $20 on Amazon!
That's the type of industry you want in your area.
In terms of leading edge..This is a bit conventional/conservative. Its a educational instutute....if you know basic mechanics, material knowledge you learn in "collage"... the "technology" they talk about is just as common as knowing how to use a wrench.
Just to describe how the industry is at the moment...its still a edge technology, not verifiable in every situational due to micro structures made by the laser...Simply said... a 10x10x10mm block of 3d printed steel, is not at the same level of traditional casted block..... but we are getting there!
YO this is fucking wild!
Canadian ay?
Nailed it!
Its cool that state is trying to get there foot into the additive manufacturing space but they really need to have new leadership at this shop and have someone actually going out to the manufacturing companies and working with them to figure out what parts can be 3d printed cheaper than machining or 3d printed to improve the products. Theres alot of opportunity and growth coming for 3d printing and laser sintering but all im seeing here is a cash burner.
The state already put up the money just get the right person to work with private industry, otherwise machining compabies are most likely to be the ones finding parts over time that can be 3d printed.
It was cool seeing this shop but they really gotta chill out on the charade of pretending they are a manufacturer themselves. There's opportunity here but I dont know who's calling the shots and funding this hobby.
Just my 2 cents though
I just want 2 get my 4x4, down off these blocks! so I can have layer tech, in my ''easy bake'' over? awesome! Q: who wants to use this machine? A: Elves!
all this stuff came from Germany! yup! they can use about any kind of material, including quality deli cuts! if the world was round U'd get it! Dr. Evil loves U'r vid!
Skip the first 5 mins, that sales pitch was super cringe...
If by cringe you mean unnecessary yelling and fast talking, then yeah. Holy hell that was hurtful to listen.
I think I heard “evolution of technology” about 5x times in 5 minutes.
Is that a MAZAK machine I see
It sure is!
@@iansandusky417 I would love to collaborate with you some day
NASA ‘we lost the technologie to go to the moon’…
Good video content but you do us a disservice when your camera man doesn't know how to zoom or focus on the very subject of the video... the parts that are being prototyped. It's not a sit-down interview... it's supposed to show us what the CCAT machines can do. The heat exchanger part from the Renishaw device is a perfect example. Learn to ZOOM and FOCUS or make an effort to hold the part steady and closer to the camera. Could have been a great video, but the camera man was more concerned with showing you and everyone else from the waist up in the same frame. Ugh.
6:26 people have been welding onto parts for 2 to 3 thousand years? 😳🙄
Look up forge welding.
Would have been nice if you actually zoomed in on the stuff on the table. The camera work is awful in your videos. Hire someone who can actually capture what we actually came to see. Not this.
Yes he’s the guy you want to show you whats what.
Watch the meat hooks, and Camera get it in there and hold grrrrr
Nice to have government funding you don't have competition because they don't always have the spare money for new and better machines a bit unfair
Man, her voice is so hard to listen to, almost irritating 😫
And his hat on backwards with those gross tats👎👎👎👎👎
Could she mention supply chain any more. A bit obvious what the get all there government funding for
The girl was insufferable. The dude was awesome.
A female in charge? How?
Tattoos, backwards ball cap and who knows what else.
Goofy.
You missed hitting me on the skinny jeans and weak beard, nice shot tho
Forgot the cheap watch and weird nipples.
Unprofessional looking
@@daleolson3506 dad, I told you to stop commenting on my UA-cam videos
this guy has a terrible case of goose neck.
its pretty distracting and i cant focus on what people are saying.
My father was a mallard, it’s rough sometimes