"Grandpa Nambu" Japanese Pistol
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The 1902 “Grandpa” Nambu is one of the first wave of successful military automatic pistols, developed by Kijiro Nambu and his team over the course of 5 years, from 1897 to 1902. It was the first automatic pistol to be used by the Japanese military, although it was a private-purchase sidearm for officers and not formally purchased or issued by the military. It took several design cues from the C96 Mauser, in the form of a pivoting locking block and a bottlenecked cartridge.
The Grandpa was only made from 1902 until 1906, with less than 2400 examples produced in total - many of which were sold to Thailand. In 1906 a series of improvements were made to the gun, including increasing the size of the trigger and trigger guard, a swiveling lanyard ring, a slightly larger grip, new magazine, and deletion of the shoulder stock slot that had been standard on all previous Nambu pistols. The formal Japanese designation (Type A) did not change as a result, but in American collector parlance the new model became the “Papa” Nambu.
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Glorious Nippon barrel folded over 1000 times
Lmao
It's not OK to be racist
Gotta love Japanese sights. Need to dispense with a threat to the Emperor with your sidearm at 500 meters? No problem.
@Bhum Brahmavira Glorious Sergeant Watanabe said no Banzai today...
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine yup, if I'm not mistaking, C96 was sighted up to 1000 meters.
You've never watched a japanese archery competition!
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine artillery pistols? I’m now imagining a company of guys just pointing their pistols to the sky and blowing their load
@@duskyflathead4483 Artillery officers commonly carried long-barrel stocked 'Artillery' pistols in the early C19th era. They weren't as constrained by barrel length as Infantry or Cavalry who needed to shoot on the move, but a stocked pistol-carbine could provide 'counter-battery' fire at an opposing gunline or other minor threats if the guns jammed or were shooting elsewhere.
I am a Japanese gunmania, but thank you for making a valuable gun like a video that can not be seen in Japan. I feel that I can feel the epidemic of the empire era which is history that Japan should not forget from this gun. Thank you for a nice video!（Since I'm using translation fanction, my sentences might be strange.）
Pretty much all japanese guns suck to be honest
@@M4skedBoi No they don't, with the exception of this piece of crap, the Japanese had decent small arms.
@@1squeamishneophyte what 'decent small arms' are you talking about?
@@M4skedBoi The arisaka rifles, the type 96 and 99 lmgs, the "knee mortar" grenade launcher/light mortar thing, their hotchkiss copy hmg, gun jesus did videos on all and praised them. And not just he, I've heard praise from other quarters although I can't remember the sources.
@@1squeamishneophyte Arisaka is a decent rifle but the arisaka rounds were underpowered, Type 89 Knee Mortar was okay but Type 10 only had a range effective of 175 meters. And type 96 was a COPY.
that pistol was very well taken care of. great to see
Yeah but the stock is bit cracked. The bluing on the rear sight is incredible though.
I'm going to name my first child Kerproing.
LOL XD ! ! !
Kerproing Boomsalot; it even sounds Thai, which is fitting given the nation which bought this gun.
Andrew Grayson
11:21 :P
The knurling on the striker cap is gorgeous, and I've always wondered how you knurl a hemispherical surface like that.
From what I can see, the knurling probably starts in the middle of the cap. The cuts are curved from the center to the edge of the cap. This is repeated until it's made 1 revolution of the same curved cuts. It's then cut in the mirrored direction with the same curve and technique. It's probably manually done and this is all of me guessing about it.
Kerproning.... Well... That's a new word I'm adding to my mental dictionary....
Kerproning: /Ker-proning/ Interjection.
One of the the many sounds that a spring may make wile launching away from, or, landing on a hard surface. Usually in a comedic fashion.
The Hino pistols are just beautiful. So unique and graceful.
Magnificent craftsmanship. I'm pretty sure that Sensei Masamune would feel Envy before such masterpiece. As I understand the steel used to forge this pistols has been folded a thousand times.
I have been watching your videos for the past 3 years and I must say the quality is only getting better. Nothing makes me more happy than to see a new Forgotten Weapons video in my sub box! Keep up the good work :D
The stock is also the holster. I love it.
Kerproing is one of my new favorite words :D
"krproing" is my new favorite sound bit
I didn't really know anything about this one until watching this video. Beautiful craftsmanship on this pistol. I like the serrations on that rear cap thing, it's cool.
“Stocked pistols lost popularity in the 1930s” almost like the single largest commercial firearms market was closed to this sort of thing around that time
I see what you are getting at
Ehh, after ww1 the only people who were utilizing stocked pistols in the international market was really just China, I can understand what u mean by the 1934 ban, but Americans in general military or not, and most other European countrys for that matter, used stocked pistols post ww1
The blued rear sight looks really nice. The disassembly process is also very cool.
Ian, it's amazing how you retain all this info about so many different types of firearms , your program is also well done , thanks for your time.
sweet!! perfect to wake up to. a new Forgotten Weapons video!! thank you Ian
i feel like Ian studied guns his whole life. from childbirth up to adulthood. he really loves to delve deep into all sorts of weapons.
As a future educator I love your videos and how informative they are.
Consider me very impressed with a semi-auto designed for 1902
I mean, the FN Browning 1900 and Colt 1900 both existed at the same time, and those were both automatics.
And the Colt 1902 and the FN 1902, and the Mauser C96...
I would be so star struck of I happened to meet you one day, a pic of myself with you would be something I would be very proud to have. Even though I know nothing about guns and I haven't fired any since I was a teenager (I am British living in China) I really enjoy watching you talk.
Can we get a compilation of all your spring caproings and such?
I second this motion
I third this
I will fourth. I would love to see a compilation of Ian's fails of him taking a gun apart, and piiiiing, the spring flies across the room. And then the magical hunt for it afterward begins when it lands or drops down somewhere and utterly vanishes
It looks like it's in great condition for its age, thanks Ian for another great video!
I see where Bill Ruger got the idea for the mk.2!!!! you really can't miss that if you've had one!!!
I have often wondered about that. It would be an interesting idea to explore. I too have owned a Ruger mark 2. I think the best innovation is the Mark 4, Soooooo much easier to reassemble after stripping for a cleaning.
@@johnciccone I was under the impression that Bill Ruger openly acknowledged the influence of the Nambu...
My dream gun wall display: Grandpa Nambu, Luger, Swedish Lahti, Italian Glesenti and to mix and match, an older model Ruger Standard Model, and a High Standard Duramatic. I have owned a few of these over the years back when you could buy a handgun for less then a months salary.
I really like the idea of using stock as the container of gun. Its not a common feature nowadays.
bilibiliism well it's pretty much been phased out. In terms of military and police, the SMG overtook it. It's definitely not an ideal thing for carry either since most are a big hunk of wood.
i noticed you mentioned about the spare firing pin trivia, i don't remember my source for this but i remember reading that the soldiers were expected to just replace the firing pin on spot even while under fire
Thanks Ian
The design on the end of the bolt, looks like Imperial Chrysanthemum, the symbol of the Emporer of Japan
Fantastic video; Japanese pistols are fascinating. Will you ever be covering the Papa and Baby Nambus in a separate video, or are they similar enough to Grandpa to not warrant it?
is the blue on the rear sight adjust original? it looks amazing. whoever wins this auction will own a true piece of art.
I believe it is a form of charcoal bluing....very pretty and you can also find it on Type 26s w/ original finish intact.
The fact that you wrote "Japanese" in the title lead to some rather interesting suggested videos.
UA-cam must know what I usually watch after Forgotten Weapons videos because all the recommended videos are just more FW videos lol.
All of these videos on forgotten about weapons are so therapeutic to watch for me idk why but looking at the guns and hearing all the information about them just soothes me lol
Lemmegetamuhfckin UHHH I
Nice Collection.
That is a beautiful pistol, Thanks for sharing
I have a lot of respect for Kijirō Nambu as a firearms designer his work on the "Arisaka" series of rifle is excellent example of adapting and simplifying an already existing design in this case the mauser action into one the best bolt and rifle combination of the 2nd world war the only problem I have with his pistol work is how complicated and over engineered they are. The 8mm nambu cartridge could have fit into a simple blowback style pistol I guess this exemplifies the japenese doctrine when it comes to pistols in ww2
Did Mr. Bill Ruger And Mr. Alex Sturm Use Ideas/Concepts From These Styled Pistols?
Found This.
"Standard looks like a German Luger pistol, but how the action works is actually more similar to the Japanese Nambu that was issued in World War II. This is by design-Bill Ruger’s initial idea for his .22 semi-automatic pistol was conceptually just a re-chambering of a Nambu pistol to .22 caliber for use as a sporting and plinking gun."
Oh man the bluing on that rear sight is incredible.
Good GOD the price that the gun went for, wish I had a couple just to pay off all my credit cards and my car!
I had a fellow try and sell me a Papa Nambu once, think it was at the Red Owl Store in Pierre SD, where I used to buy a lot of guns in the mid 70's. At any rate, he called it a "Japanese Luger!" now back then any gun that was not appropriate for duty carry or plinking such as my .22 collection were not much interest to me, I did buy a Luger once but that was in the Barbershop in a small town in SD and an entirely different story. Kind of wish I had kept the Luger and purchased the "Japanese Luger' back then and put them in a gun case to set away for the future me, but who thinks about that crap when the gun market is exploding with millions of import guns flooding the markets.
In the game Resident Evil Survivor you get this gun if you take a certain route.
It doesn't have the stock but it's still a good gun in the game. :{J
That looks nicer than what one expects a nambu pistol to look like
I think Resident Evil: Dead Aim had the Grampa Nambu as its strongest handgun.
Very slick design overall, seems nice and simple for such an old design. It does seem to depend on tiny little pieces blocking other tiny little pieces though, maybe moreso than most other designs you've shown us.
Since the magazine is not nearly as angled as the type 14, does that mean that this feeds better?
Idk, but because they weren't in war, they had much better quality control I guess.
Hey! Somebody put a stock on a Ruger Mark I! ;)
If it's only .380 power level, I wonder why they didn't just go straight blowback.
It still lets you hold the gun steadier for longer periods, recoil or not.
A pistol is not always "just" for close range. If you had no other weapon because: you're a support personnel who wasn't issued anything else; your rifle malfunctioned and you can't clear it in time, or you ran out of ammunition; you're a machine gunner and you can't reposition your main gun in time; etc., you might still want to fire at the enemy even if they are 100 metres away. What if they're charging with shotguns, sub-machine guns, or grenades? I wouldn't personally want to let them get in "close." If you're in a static fighting position, say as a crewman on an entrenched artillery gun, you can afford to sacrifice some of your mobility to shoot a little tighter and be more effective at a longer range. You don't necessarily have to make a killing shot. Providing harassing fire could deter an assault, or at least buy time for a teammate with a better gun to come help you out.
別にいいじゃない。ストレートブローバックとショートリコイルの境目は弾の威力が380A CP 辺りだそうです。
Never really had an opinion on the Nambu, tho I attribute that too my lack of knowledge regarding the pistol.
ian. keep up the videos. They are amazing and never cease to amaze
That is a great handgun!
This is a nice pistol. I like this pistol.
Thanks so much for the great videos!
It's old, and it's gun. What is not to like...
YaY, a Japanese gun!
I'm Japanese
I love the A&W burger naming convention of these...Baby Burger, Mamma Burger, Papa Burger, Grandpa Burger...
Imagine a stocked pistol for self defense. Its like carrying without one in the chamber.
The Nambu type is from right to left, in modern way is 南部式，but in the old days, it's type bu nam, 式部南.
from now on I shall refer to the noise non captive recoil springs make when flying across the room as "Ker-Sproing" until the day I die.
GRAND DAD?
FLEENT STONES?
Great work on the Japanese captions!
You can tell it's a good translation because I can't understand it!
that thing is really well built
1902..... Made in Japan. the fit finish is amazing.
Have you ever had the chance to look at a type 100 SMG? Could you do a video on one?
There's a small article on the website but he hasn''t done a video on one.
He's done the type 100 rifle and type 100 flamethrower but not the SMG as far as I can see.
He's done videos on much rarer guns before, and over 20,000 were made so it's not like they aren't around.
ive seen a type 100 late model being sold for 200 at gander mountan once
That would be a steal! Worth from $6000 to $ !2,000.
i get the feeling your a bit of a nambu nut, Ian. Really detailed video.
i can just imagine that japanese engineer at the turn of the century going "meh,we dont need that"...
id love to see more trial videos. anyone else like them?
Well for Thai army in WW2 i heard about the use of C96 but this gun? I never heard of.
2:30 I thought Ian said 952,000 feet per second and I almost had a stroke lol
I just find it interesting that all the major powers had started development or created their first standard issue pistols in 1900-1910
Magazine look like wallpaper knife at first glance
Wouldn't this gun fire in full-auto if the striker sear broke when the gun was loaded?
hdhg4ever Perhaps, it could just jam though.
Was wondering this aswell. Also what holds the striker if the shooter keeps pressure on the trigger after firing
Yup just like any other semi auto gun
Eight to ten grand right there. What a cool gun, not the best, kind like overcomplicated but first class machining and finish.
CommunistRaccoonDog Daaamn...!
Exactly, last one i had a chance to buy was $18k...and while i knew it was a good deal, i figured my wife should have a new car with the same money lol.
I like the side mounted recoil spring
I have a nambu my grandpa brought back from the way.. no stock, i forget the exact model and it’s in another state atm.. full matching serial numbers though and its in pretty good shape. Also have a type99 rifle
Ooof, did you see the color on that rear sight slider? I'm drooling.
If I got ahold of one of those, there is NO WAY IN HELL I could have figured out how to disassemble that thing!
Vintage automatic pistols. They just don't make them like they used to. So interesting to look at. Modern hand guns are often in my opinion just boring. In fact, honestly, I don't like most fire arms "Post" WWII. Seems WWII people started standardize more to reliable, known designs/concepts, sure some experimentation is going on still but, not much. Early on everyone was designing from different concepts almost, now it's more standardized, less unique/interest. Mauser C96, Early Colt Automatics, The Luger P08, Nambu, and among others seemed to have their own unique flavors for their day.
I believe part of the reason is the modern concept of severe restrictions on firearm production and ownership. Back at the turn of the 20th century there were few gun laws and nearly anyone could manufacture and sell a firearm. A freer market was conductive to greater innovation.
I wanna point out they modeled the drang from destiny 2 after this.
been refinished? looked pretty good finish still
The general design of this pistol while a bit complex and a pain in the ass to make is a rather cool gun
Kijiro Nambu is somewhat of a standout, Japan has standouts unlike other Asian nations.
For example even a Japanese man named Chuhachi Ninomiya was trying to develop a plane way back in 1889, however he couldn't get funding from the army, he was able to create a 2m version that could fly, but during his building of a larger version the wright brothers in 1903 had a successful flight carrying a man and Chuhachi abandoned his work and entirely changed career. However he was on the same path as the wright brothers and actually started before them.
Jiro Horikoshi is another great, another was Yuzuru Hiraga.
Even though European ethnic countries had a policy of wanting to believe other races were inferior and stupid (age of scientific racism), Japan's success was too intense and changed that whole ideology, now today even if some European people want to believe they are the superior race, deep down they know it isn't necessarily true. The delusion of European exceptionalism was essentially eroded by Japan.
yeah but japan was really the only standout, SEA folded easily at any european colonisation attempt, india too, china was giga cucked in other ways
japanese feudal society closely mirrored europe in structure and they were smart enough to realise that they had to industrialise/reorg society in order not to be colonised like all their neighbors
basically almost all the notable inventors, thinkers, scientists, mathematicians, etc to come out of east asia in the last 1000 years were japanese
dude this is awesome
So rare.
What kind of weirdo thumbs downs this?
free field training
gun haters
Screw 'em. So worked up they can't even see the historical significance.
free field training "but guns are so horrible and only for the slaughter of living things" Riiiigghhhhttt.
Who? Trolls.
Liberals thumbs down this.
GRAND DAD!
Since i especially collect Japanese firearms, i really appreciate this video. Hey, I'd trade you my French MAS36 CR39 for this Grandpa Nambu! hehe
As to the Siamese Grandpas, while you are right that either way of them getting them is possible, i feel that an original purchase back pre-WWI is more likely. As you said, these were private purchase so not sure the Japanese gov't/military would have many to sell since most were owned by officers and thus presumably were taken home. Just a thought. Plus Tokyo was already supplying rifles to Siam in the same time frame, so why not try and get them to buy some handguns too? Makes business sense at least, cheers.
Has anyone else noted that the pattern on the disassembly button/strike spring is very like a chrysanthemum? Symbol of the Emperor/royal house.
Ian, have a question on the Nambu theme. Looks like there are a number of videos and chat about the Type 14 Nambu's with the theme of, "Japanese Nambu Pistols were unreliable junk." The videos do show people having reliability issues shooting them today. However, they are, what 75 years old. Also, we have the issue of non Japanese military spec ammo to shoot. So, the question is, "How reliable or unreliable were peak war Nambu pistols?"
So the striker 'sear' is prone to snapping off and sending the firing pin forward, and it will slam fire whatever's in the chamber if you remove an empty mag. That's pretty bad when viewed from the modern perspective. When you look at the design work that went into the trigger group, the bolt, etc. - it seems they could easily have engineered around those problems if they had seen them coming. Reminder of how early this design is.
You should get a job as a tour guide at a firearms museum or something.
Also, do RIA feature your videos on these weapons in any way? Maybe one their site or before the auction?
Yes, my videos are linked in their catalog.
Nope, not an RIA employee.
People who know about the RIA but not Ian's channel get introduced to his videos, people who watch his videos might decide to place a bet on something at RIA. Sounds pretty much like the definition of a win-win-situation.
Ian is a firearms museum.
What a tidy little package.
That’s certainly a “forgotten weapon.”
very interesting video! I wonder if it is ok for me to make subtitle for your videos and upload them to other websites so that people who do not know english would be able to enjoy these awesome contents? Of course credits will be given!
Why do Japanese pistols have graduated sights marked out so distant? Seems like something similar to .32ACP would be tumbling before 500m and wouldn't have much KE left.
Volley fire ?
Being a fan of should stock pistols, what do you think about modern carbine conversions of pistols when top slide is replaced?
From the side of this gun, it really look like my Std Mark III .22 cal.
This reminds me of how the Nerf Magstrike's stock and grip are structured.
2:27
So basically a 380
Edit swear to God i hit post and he goes " basically a 380 auto"
500m on the rear sights? spot of optimism..
Nambu? Simple? Woah.
Hey Ian what would happen if a Luger's joint on the top bent down into the gun instead of up?
Were silencers a thing on pistols in WW1?
Hiram Maxim invented the first silencer in 1902, so it existed in WWI at least. this Hiram is son of the Hiram Maxim, that invented the Machingun.
Exploatores i I see.
No, they were not.
+Exploatores Sounds like the Son got tired of the loudness in dads workshop, so he decided to do something against it.
Afnan Zahran holy shit was you yeasterday in sir anthonys stream ????!!!