I also upgraded to an fully loaded fx4 f150 and it has been the best change. I went with a used slide in camper. And yes the 36 gallon tank and keyless key pad are absolutely unbeatable features.
I went with a 2019 F-150 STX myself. For the same price in the used market I got something that can fit three car seats easily, had 400 pounds more payload, and better fuel economy. I'm not taking it down Jeep trails. Its been perfect for the forest roads and exploring we do.
A big part of the suspension uncomforted is the increased towing capability. It’s the trade off you make. Stiffer chassis and stronger springs and shocks mean harsher ride. However if you load the back up with some weight you’ll notice it rides beautifully. When the truck is only a daily and not a tow rig it’s a great idea to swap the shock and spring setup in the rear. Love the video!
Great explanation! I’m off-road more often than I tow so that’s why I did a more “raptor style” suspension. Now I squat more if I tow but there’s always a trade off
Your towing and payload numbers are a bit off for your specific truck. According to Fords 2019 Tow chart that 13,200 pound towing number is only for 3.5EB powered Supercrew 2x4 6.5 ft bed trucks equipped with the Max Tow Package, 3.55 axle, and 20 inch wheels. Yes very specific these ratings are. Your truck, 3.5 Supercrew 4x4 5.5ft bed can tow 10,700 pounds. Payload is even more specific and yes it's possible for up to 3270 in very specific F150 configurations but not on your truck that's a Supercrew, 4x4, and short box. In 2019 3230 is the max possible payload for 3.5EB only when in a regular cab 2x4 long box AND equipped with the pretty rare heavy duty payload package that brings the GVWR up to 7850. The max possible payload in a supercrew 4x4 short box with 3.5 (your truck) is 2030 pounds or 7000 GVWR meaning your truck in base XL trim weighs 4970 with no options or accessories added. Payload is unique to each truck based on what's added to it and that number is on the "tire and loading info" sticker inside the driver's door. Being an XLT with some options your payload will be lower probably around 1700-1900 pounds. Ford has a chart that breaks down payload based on engine, drive type, cab and bed type (wheelbase), and max GVWR. 3rd Gen Tacomas have a Max payload of 1535 pounds for PreRunner Access cab 2wd models but most are well below that.
Exactly. The numbers he quotes aren't a little off. They are WAY OFF. You need to look at the actual payload capacity listed on the door sticker. You'll likely be surprised. When I was shopping for a truck I started tracking the actual door stickers. Most F150's have a payload of 1,200 - 1,500 lbs. And, that payload capacity is for an EMPTY truck. The mid level and higher trim levels were in the 1,200 range. Seriously. Not joking. (LOL). Put 4 guys in there and you can easily max out your payload with those 4 guys and camping or hunting gear for a weekend. Start putting various "overland" (car camping) gear in or on it, and I guarantee that most folks are hitting the max payload ratings before adding a trailer. I've actually weighed the payload in my vehicle when going on a multi-week Western mountain trip that includes hunting. I know what the gear weights. It adds up fast. especially once you add in 12 volt refrigerators, lighting, batteries, water, coolers, ice, tools, gear for 2+ people, tents, etc. etc. etc. Definitely not enough capacity left for a trailer, and a truck with 1,200 lb payload capacity (which is where most of hte higher end F150's land) will be at or over capacity very quickly. ford used to offer a "heavy payload" package but in the last few years they reserved that option for the low trim level(s). Me, I bought a Super Duty primarily due to the limited payload capacity of the F150. Had Ford offered the "heavy payload" option on the mid-level and higher trims I 'might" have considered the F150.
I have a Sierra 1500 All Terrain edition that I’ve turned into a quasi camping/overland vehicle. I don’t consider myself an overland enthusiast, as I have to use my truck for a variety of other purposes and most of my off-roading is done with ATV’s, but I’ve been really happy with it. The extra power and space alone are worth it.
The 6.5 looks more proportional imo. But the departure angle sure suffers. I hate the parking argument. It's half a foot of wheelbase. Back the truck in like everyone else and you will always fit 😂😂. Love the build!
I had a Colorado after having a RAM for daily driving. The choice was easy to go back to a full size. I love my F150 and every time i load it up, all i think about is how most this stuff would not have fit as nicely in the Colorado.
I have a 2014 f150 with the 3.5L ecoboost and a supercrew cab with 6.5ft bed. I definitely love it, and yeah the turning radius is pretty bad but any truck is gonna be bad so it's not that much worse, and the trade-off of having WAY more space to fit longer things in the bed is absolutely worth it for me. I don't have a rooftop tent but I use a truck bed tent with an air mattress to camp and I can lay down in the bed with the tailgate closed if I want with plenty of room to spare. It definitely sticks out a good bit in most parking spots but it's not a big deal. I love my truck and I don't ever see myself getting anything smaller. I also used it to tow a trailer across the country when I moved and it saved me a lot of money on moving, not really something you can easily do in a midsized truck. Only downside of a full size truck on a trail is the turning radius if you're on tight trails, and you're more likely to get scratched up but oh well you're offroading, it's gonna happen either way. Biggest downside for my gen truck is that the SYNC system is actual hot ass and there's no truly keyless entry/start. I have the fob but not the kind that senses it in my pocket and unlocks when I grab the handle, but that's not a big deal once you're used to it if you're coming from a car that does have those things.
I have a 2022 ram 1500 big horn with the hemi in it, quad cab with the 6’4 bed and have no problem turning around or being in tight spaces, I also have a level with 33 tires on 20in rims and have the offset so the tires stick out a few inches
Small gas tank is 26 gal, extended is 36..... Buuut if you get the small gas tank they sell aftermarket extended, 40 and 45 gallons. I have a 36 gallon. Id love the 45 though 😅
Ageed! Dang, the F-150's have come a long way.Twin turbo is the game changer. Thanks man. I drive the 6.0 F250 diesel...yeah, a lot of hate for this motor. All fixable 200k miles and loving it. With a few cheap mods (add-a-lead, front spring airbags, and chip retune) not a lot of money and it is a beast. I have a Leer shell with a clamshell RTT. With big trucks, as you have mentioned, throwing mechanics tools , recovery gear, bottle jacks, etc, why not? We have the space!
I have a lariat fx4 package. Got hill descent control. Have offroad gauges that tell me the angles the truck is sitting at. 4low,high,auto and locking diff
As another person said below, your payload numbers seem to be off. You might report to us what your payload capacity is on your truck based on the door sticker. Then, I suggest you drive over a scale when loaded for a trip. You might be surprised at how close you are to your max payload. I was. Two or more big guys in a "well appointed" F150, outfitted for "overlanding" and loaded for, say a one or two week camping or hunting trip and the vehicle will often be at or over GVWR before hooking up a trailer or adding 500 lbs of ice and elk meat. Or going up a tire size. When I was shopping for a truck I was already a bit sensitive to payload because I knew the weight I was carrying in / on my 4Runner. It's surprising how fast it adds up. Also, IIRC, the payload capacity assumes a starting point of that vehicle empty (no driver assumed) and potentially not even a full tank of gas (not sure on that). Ford and others do a disservice by advertising payload figures that only exist in real life for low trim level vehicles appointed a certain way (like 2WD). When I was shopping for a new truck about a year ago, I checked the door sticker for payload capacity on every truck I drove (they were mostly F150's, but also a couple of Ram PowerWagons which BTW have low payload capacity but are great offroading). The typical door sticker payload capacity for a higher trim level F150 was in the range of 1,200 lbs. for a mid-level truck it sometimes approached 1,500 lbs. Those are real life numbers. One driver with "day gear" can easily eat up 200 lbs. Add in a "house battery" some electrical components, lighting, a 12 volt refrigerator and some type of top for the bed of the truck, maybe a Ham radio, cooles, ice, water, various comfort items or toys etc. etc. and payload goes up FAST. I can say from experience that it is easy to tack on at least 1,000 lbs of payload with two guys and their gear and a bunch of the stuff folks use for car camping these days (umm, "overlanding"). I've gone over 1,000 lbs by myself (but carrying enough gear for 3 people). Yup, I've driven over-payload and lived to admit it, but I don't want to make it a habit and I recommend avoiding it. Especially if you're adding a trailer on top of everything else. A "light" 5,000 lb trailer can easily have ANOTHER 500 lbs of tongue weight. Add that to a vehicle that is already pushing max payload and you may have some explaining to do in a vehicle accident situation. I ended up buying a Ford Super Duty largely due to the limited payload of the F150's. Not the only reason...but that was a major reason. Mine happens to be a Super Duty Tremor, so it handles 35" tires easily. I'm happy with my decision.
Great looking truck. People totally overlook the full-size for a lot of reasons that really don’t make sense or are invalid. You hit in a couple of key points. Much better fuel capacity AND better fuel economy. More space. Comfort! With a Tacoma, you go up in tire size and add stuff to the bed, you’ve totally maxed out what that truck can do. Gears, suspension, major money. A half ton eats it up no problem, especially Ford. Highest payload.
If you like this full size ford with the 3.5 ecoboost, you would love the powerboost hybrid with the 7.2 kw propower onboard generator. I think that would be the lick for an overlander. I LOVE mine and the extra power it has. Check it out, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.
Great looking truck! I absolutely love that color. I just started looking into f-150s myself, I came to the same conclusion that you did. I was looking into the stats, fuel mileage around 20, available 36 gallon tank, talk about a long range! I also like that these are available with the rear locker on pretty much any trim level, and I looked at the ratios, and these actually have a much better crawl ratio than the Toyotas. If I recall correctly, the 4Runner and the Tacoma are about 33:1, with the 373 gearing. The F-150 is 46: 1. I currently have a 4Runner, and I was considering building it, but truth is I really don't enjoy driving it long distances, and even stock I can barely hit 20 MPG. I thought I was going to make the 4Runner into more of a trail rig, but that's not really what I want to do, so I think the full size pickup would suit those needs better.
man i want a friggin f250 rig to be able to tow while still enjoying overlanding; CJC offroad witht he carli kings and everything will be my route but i currently drive a bmw coupe so its time to add a vehicle with some space. love the rig!
My dads truck is a 6.5 ft bed but i drove my buddys truck with the 5.5 and it feels so much easier to drive the wheels base makes the truck feel way smaller
All that electronic off-road stuff is mostly advertising/gimicks, the big thing is lockers. lockers. lockers. lockers. And yeah, nice truck. I wanted an F-150 or tundra, but after found the price with options I wanted, went with a 23' Frontier pro4x.
(@ 10:30-ish) You've come across as if the f150 does not have crawl-control, hill decent, etc like the Tacoma when that is not a (f150/full size truck) issue but rather options that you did not choose for your truck. I'm not sure if it is part of the FX Off-Road package or the Tremor package, but f150 does have it. (intended for constructive criticism, not meaning to nitpick)
9:23 you have way too much trust in the general public man. I love the keypad too, it’s super useful, but don’t tempt fate by leaving the keys in the car. Regardless if someone can guess the keypad code, a brick and 10 seconds of rummaging around is all it takes. Don’t feel like you need to feel paranoid, but… this would be like leaving the deed to your home and your social security information in your house just in a drawer because you lock your doors at night. Stay safe man, love the build, gave me a lot of great ideas!
Very nice. Did you consider the 3.5 ltr hybrid Powerboost, and if so, why this over that? The Powerboost seems to have many advantages and no disadvantages. including more power, better mpg, and that 7.2 electric generator. I'm no expert, so would welcome your thoughts. I've wanted a Tremor but to get the Powerboost am consdering an XLT, Lariat or Platinum, likely w/ the FX4 package. My plan is to do a 2 1/2" - 3 1/2" level/lift, 35 tires, a little poke, and appropriate higher performing suspension mods. As for the bed, I'm considering a Diamondback HD bedcover or RSI Smartcap. It will be my daily driver, mobile home office w/ that fold out flat work surface and wifi hotspot or starlink, long distance road tripper & occasional overlander. A simple way to describe what I'm looking for is "A good looking, max luxury interior, go anywhere, any time, any kind of weather, vehicle. Thoughts on any of this too? Thanks. This was an excellent video, insightful and useful.
I bought my truck in 2021 and the Powerboost was brand new at that point. A brand new truck wasn't in my budget so a 2019 with the 3.5 Ecoboost fit my needs better. Also, used or not any hybrid motor options is much more expensive. But, I am not against the Powerboost at all. I have quite a few subs say they absolutely love it and the onboard power seems super cool.
@@coleeades Thanks. Any thoughts on my other comments above? By the way, I too would love 37's, but 35's are pretty darn good, and 35's can still fit in the spare tire spot under the bed, but I suspect 37's can not, except for the 37 package Raptor of course. I really appreciated your comments about what can be accomplished with after market suspension mods if one chooses. I just want that front torsion diff in the Tremor, and it's not available on any other model, but maybe it won't be all that useful, for me anyway, I don't know.
Ya I bet the Powerboost is a fantastic option. Tremor is probably a good option for someone who isn't going to change up the suspension, lift or wheels. If you are going to change any of those you are then paying just to take it all off. Lariat or Platinum is going to give you exceptional interior comfort and then you can do a suspension lift, wheels and 35's tires of your choice. Everyone has different needs but if I was given the choice between a Diamondback cover and a Smartcap I would choose Smartcap 10/10 times. Having any sort of Tonneau cover limits your space to such a small area and it turns it into a black hole. Having the added height of a topper and having side access to your bed is a must for me now. I know in this video I have a tonneau cover setup but I have since switched to a truck camper and have never looked back. Even for someone who doesn't want a full truck camper I would still recommend a topper of any kind.
I agree that the full size truck is the way to go. The fact that you can get one for around the same price as a midsize with close to the same fuel economy and you get so much more truck and comfort. It's a no-brainer for me. I'm currently in a GMC, but my next one will be a Tundra to get that reliability... I don't want to rebuild this darn tranny for the third time!
I don't disagree that it's not worth getting but they definitely are not around the same price. A 4x4 F150 basically starts at $50k vs a Frontier/Tacoma starts around 37k.
For the pistol I just put velcro on my holster and inside the console. That way I can still draw it quick when needed. Here’s a link for the center console organizer. amzn.to/4fch001
2020 F150 XLT FX4 has a 2" factory lift, skid plates; 36 gal gastank; downhill assist. I think the shocks are heavier duty than non FX4. I replaced the tires to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. I pull a loaded 7800# car hauler... 5.0 V8-390HP/ 10SP TRANS/ 3.55 REAR... fuel 9.2mpg towing Michigan to North and South Dakotas' through the Black Hills.
@captseamus If you knee you was going to be pulling your trailer when you bought your F150 you would've been much better In the long run for many reasons to have got a F250. I hope the 150 will work out for you especialy going to the mountains like you said. Happy Trails!
Did you notice much difference in power when upgrading to 35s? I'm also coming from a Tacoma with 33s (loved it but I live in Colorado where the lack of power at elevation was very annoying). Curious if you noticed much of a difference - I have the 3.5EB as well. Thanks!
When I bought the truck the previous owner already had 33” tires on so I didn’t notice a difference going to 35”. So I might not be the best guy to give you an answer on that. But I haven’t heard of anyone with that issue. The 3.5l is so powerful I doubt it has much of an impact
Since you have the 36 gallon tank I'm assuming you have the max tow package (I believe the two go hand in hand). What size wheels do you have? I have a 19 with max tow package and I want to put 17" wheels on it. I'm hearing from some that 17s wont work bc the rear caliper is too big and others say it will, just barely. Just wondering about your wheel size or if you know anything about 17s fitting?
Cole - just found your channel…i really like it. I’m in Riverton but lived in Logan in earlier years. Can you tell me what you use for time deflation/inflation? Thanks for your videos.
You bet! Here’s some links. I use a rapid tire deflator and the M18 tire inflator. a.co/d/g9ZNyds ua-cam.com/video/5EUJ79SnW0w/v-deo.htmlsi=nTVurc_NKZfEOwZ-
I have a 2018 f150 crew cab and I have a 6” rough country lift running 37s. I’m just getting into the overlanding scene looking forward to my first trip to northern Maine at the end of the month. How much do you air down your tires? I’ve been hearing around 20psi.
Most of it depends on if you have a 17” wheel or not. I run a 17” wheel on 35”s and I air down to 18-20psi. But I would feel comfortable all the way to 15psi or so without a beadlock. If you have anything bigger than a 17” wheel that number will change for sure
You should be able to run 20psi no problem especially since a 37” tire is giving you more sidewall. Realistically both of us could run in the 12-15 psi range no problem but a general rule of thumb is to start at 20psi see how it rides/looks and maybe go down from there. Thats what I’ve done
Tacoma’s (at least the prior ones) are horrible for indoor room. Especially the back seat. My Gladiators had way more room in the back seat, for passengers at least. Especially rear leg room if you’re over six feet tall.
Not gonna lie, I've clicked on your video once before but, once you said turbo V6 in your entry part of your video i ejecto seato my self out lol!! buuut, decided to came back to see what you've done. over all opinion "sweet set up, great job".
Only because the new Tundra hadn’t been announced yet. I’m not a fan of the old Tundras and at the time the specs of the F150 were miles better than the old tundra. But now I’m a huge fan of the new one
@@coleeadeshold the brake pedal and gas on start up. This is called “flood mode” I believe and it circulates oil/pressure which should open the pin that gets stuck in the phaser. Let it crank for a couple seconds before letting off the pedals and starting the truck
@@coleeades Yeah it's possible for up to 3270 in very specific F150 configurations but not on your truck that's a Supercrew, 4x4, and short box. In 2019 3230 is the max possible payload for 3.5EB only when in a regular cab 2x4 long box AND equipped with the pretty rare heavy duty payload package that brings the GVWR up to 7850. The max possible payload in a supercrew 4x4 short box with 3.5 (your truck) is 2030 pounds or 7000 GVWR meaning your truck in base XL trim weighs 4970 with no options or accessories added. Payload is unique to each truck based on what's added to it and that number is on the "tire and loading info" sticker inside the driver's door. Being an XLT with some options your payload will be lower than that probably around 1700-1900 pounds. Ford has a chart that breaks down payload based on engine, drive type, cab and bed type (wheelbase), and max GVWR.
So you prefer less performance or just concerned about complexity? Compared to bigger push-rod V8's that were designed over 100 years ago, modern turbo gas truck engines are smaller, lighter, more powerful, faster, tow more weight, superior at high altitude and extreme temperatures, pollute less, easier and quieter to tow with, create peak torque very low in the rpm range similar to a turbo diesel. Which is exactly what a truck needs and why all big trucks use turbo engines.
@@sozoxd3754 I am as well. Toyota Tundras first and second year failures have nothing to do with turbos it’s a manufacturing error. Fords turbos are going well over 300,000 miles easy with no major repairs.
@ wow I can’t tell. I’m debating whether or not to even paint correct. I should’ve gotten ppf on the black door plastic it’s really nasty looking. PA VA MD here
I've heard nothing but good things about the 3.5 tbh. People say it's one of the most reliable engines Ford ever made and can easily hit 250k+ without issues.
I had a 15 5.0 mustang and 18 5.0 f150 and I had nothing but problems out of the motor. 18 was the worse. Very bad type writter idle, finicky knock sensor, and would eat 1-2 qts of oil between 3k mile oil changes. The sad part it's very common all the way up to 2020MY
@@The_Top_Gun. Really? I didn't know that. I always think of trucks in "tonnage" 1/2 ton, 3/4, 1 ton, 2.5 ton. I think I've heard the 1/4 ton before but it's less common, maybe anything that has tonnage is full size
Cole you made some good points! But i need to correct you on something you said several times that you are wrong about. Cole your truck is Not a Full size truck it is a Midsize truck! A full size truck has a 8 ft. bed not 6.5 or smaller. What you explained bout you and your truck your Midsize truck is good for you and i am glad! Ive got a 2 Full size trucks but for me your truck cant do the things i do and it wouldnt hold up but for you it works and thats all that matters. Ive got one truck that is a 1988 GMC Ext cab K2500 with 30 gal tank 8 ft bed that takes 40 acres to turn it around. My main truck is a 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 single cab 8ft bed with 30 gal tank and a Factory 3 and a half inch lift on it with a 5 speed trans and my 88 has a 4 speed Bull dog trans in it. Both are great trucks and my Dodge only has 138000 miles on it and looks and runs like brand new. I dont have all the fancy buttons like yall have but that makes it more fun and i can turn my Dodge on a dime. But i have a raised roof topper on my Dodge and in process making a truck camper out of of it and just got a old 13 ft camper throwed on me im fixing to strip down to make a overland trailer out of it and thats where a 2500 comes in to handle the load with no problems. I like your truck and set up but for me i wouldnt trade my old trucks for a brand new NO WAY! I hope you dont get mad but you have a Midsize truck NOT full size truck! Take care and Happy Trails!!!
Appreciate you watching the video! Everything on Google says the F150 is a Full Size truck. So you might have to take it up with Google! Haha, glad you are enjoying your current trucks. Have fun out there!
@@coleeadesWell they are wrong but nothing for me to get upset about! If you want to I will prove they are wrong so I will give you a fun challenge! I will cut a load of firewood and I will get one of my buddies with a F150 or 1500 ,half ton like yours to make it fair, with a 8 ft bed. We will load the 8ft bed with the firewood full and then you bring yours or one like yours with a short bed F150 and we will load the same wood off the 8 ft bed and put in your 6.5 bed and if your truck holds the same load and safe to go down the road without fallen off I will admit I am wrong and apologize like a man and will give you that load of wood and you will have a whole lot of free firewood! Just because says something don't mean they are always right!!! Don't take this the wrong way but you go find any farmer, rancher or country folks in your truck and ask any of them is your truck a full size truck and you will get your right answer from the experts not computers that only knows what somebody told it to say from people who most has never even drove a pickup of any size. Let me know if I need to start cutting a load of wood buddy but you get the wood free if I'm wrong but you have to buy or frill me a nice steak supper when I prove you and Google is wrong and then we will shake hands and we will go get in the mud have some more fun!
@lockandloadlikehell Well I'm not going to call you no names but you keep thinking that ok and I will keep knowing the accurate info and we will both be happy as least I will!
I also upgraded to an fully loaded fx4 f150 and it has been the best change. I went with a used slide in camper. And yes the 36 gallon tank and keyless key pad are absolutely unbeatable features.
I went with a 2019 F-150 STX myself. For the same price in the used market I got something that can fit three car seats easily, had 400 pounds more payload, and better fuel economy.
I'm not taking it down Jeep trails. Its been perfect for the forest roads and exploring we do.
Same here, for me it fits just fine on 95% of trails here in northern Utah
I upgraded my F150 seat to leather with Katzkin. Highly recommended. Like your truck! Good job.
Thanks for watching. I’ve definitely thought about doing them, do you feel like they get extra hot in the summer or is the ventilation ok?
@@coleeades it was ok for me in Michigan summer. They have air ventilation option as well.
@@coleeades you can get aftermarket ventilated seats from Katzkin as well! I only just discovered this recently, had no idea it was even an option.
A big part of the suspension uncomforted is the increased towing capability. It’s the trade off you make. Stiffer chassis and stronger springs and shocks mean harsher ride. However if you load the back up with some weight you’ll notice it rides beautifully. When the truck is only a daily and not a tow rig it’s a great idea to swap the shock and spring setup in the rear. Love the video!
Great explanation! I’m off-road more often than I tow so that’s why I did a more “raptor style” suspension. Now I squat more if I tow but there’s always a trade off
Your towing and payload numbers are a bit off for your specific truck. According to Fords 2019 Tow chart that 13,200 pound towing number is only for 3.5EB powered Supercrew 2x4 6.5 ft bed trucks equipped with the Max Tow Package, 3.55 axle, and 20 inch wheels. Yes very specific these ratings are. Your truck, 3.5 Supercrew 4x4 5.5ft bed can tow 10,700 pounds. Payload is even more specific and yes it's possible for up to 3270 in very specific F150 configurations but not on your truck that's a Supercrew, 4x4, and short box. In 2019 3230 is the max possible payload for 3.5EB only when in a regular cab 2x4 long box AND equipped with the pretty rare heavy duty payload package that brings the GVWR up to 7850. The max possible payload in a supercrew 4x4 short box with 3.5 (your truck) is 2030 pounds or 7000 GVWR meaning your truck in base XL trim weighs 4970 with no options or accessories added. Payload is unique to each truck based on what's added to it and that number is on the "tire and loading info" sticker inside the driver's door. Being an XLT with some options your payload will be lower probably around 1700-1900 pounds. Ford has a chart that breaks down payload based on engine, drive type, cab and bed type (wheelbase), and max GVWR. 3rd Gen Tacomas have a Max payload of 1535 pounds for PreRunner Access cab 2wd models but most are well below that.
Thank you for letting me know and taking the time to explain it. 👍 Thanks for watching the video
Exactly. The numbers he quotes aren't a little off. They are WAY OFF. You need to look at the actual payload capacity listed on the door sticker. You'll likely be surprised.
When I was shopping for a truck I started tracking the actual door stickers. Most F150's have a payload of 1,200 - 1,500 lbs. And, that payload capacity is for an EMPTY truck. The mid level and higher trim levels were in the 1,200 range. Seriously. Not joking. (LOL). Put 4 guys in there and you can easily max out your payload with those 4 guys and camping or hunting gear for a weekend. Start putting various "overland" (car camping) gear in or on it, and I guarantee that most folks are hitting the max payload ratings before adding a trailer.
I've actually weighed the payload in my vehicle when going on a multi-week Western mountain trip that includes hunting. I know what the gear weights. It adds up fast. especially once you add in 12 volt refrigerators, lighting, batteries, water, coolers, ice, tools, gear for 2+ people, tents, etc. etc. etc. Definitely not enough capacity left for a trailer, and a truck with 1,200 lb payload capacity (which is where most of hte higher end F150's land) will be at or over capacity very quickly.
ford used to offer a "heavy payload" package but in the last few years they reserved that option for the low trim level(s).
Me, I bought a Super Duty primarily due to the limited payload capacity of the F150. Had Ford offered the "heavy payload" option on the mid-level and higher trims I 'might" have considered the F150.
I have a Sierra 1500 All Terrain edition that I’ve turned into a quasi camping/overland vehicle. I don’t consider myself an overland enthusiast, as I have to use my truck for a variety of other purposes and most of my off-roading is done with ATV’s, but I’ve been really happy with it. The extra power and space alone are worth it.
The 6.5 looks more proportional imo. But the departure angle sure suffers. I hate the parking argument. It's half a foot of wheelbase. Back the truck in like everyone else and you will always fit 😂😂.
Love the build!
You’re 100% correct, an F150 is still an easy car to park even with the 6.5. Looking back I wouldn’t have said that in the video. Thanks for watching!
I had a Colorado after having a RAM for daily driving. The choice was easy to go back to a full size. I love my F150 and every time i load it up, all i think about is how most this stuff would not have fit as nicely in the Colorado.
I have a 2014 f150 with the 3.5L ecoboost and a supercrew cab with 6.5ft bed. I definitely love it, and yeah the turning radius is pretty bad but any truck is gonna be bad so it's not that much worse, and the trade-off of having WAY more space to fit longer things in the bed is absolutely worth it for me. I don't have a rooftop tent but I use a truck bed tent with an air mattress to camp and I can lay down in the bed with the tailgate closed if I want with plenty of room to spare. It definitely sticks out a good bit in most parking spots but it's not a big deal. I love my truck and I don't ever see myself getting anything smaller. I also used it to tow a trailer across the country when I moved and it saved me a lot of money on moving, not really something you can easily do in a midsized truck. Only downside of a full size truck on a trail is the turning radius if you're on tight trails, and you're more likely to get scratched up but oh well you're offroading, it's gonna happen either way.
Biggest downside for my gen truck is that the SYNC system is actual hot ass and there's no truly keyless entry/start. I have the fob but not the kind that senses it in my pocket and unlocks when I grab the handle, but that's not a big deal once you're used to it if you're coming from a car that does have those things.
Ya 6.5 bed is truly a great option, truly not many cons to it at all. At least not ones that matter. Thanks for sharing!
I have a 2022 ram 1500 big horn with the hemi in it, quad cab with the 6’4 bed and have no problem turning around or being in tight spaces, I also have a level with 33 tires on 20in rims and have the offset so the tires stick out a few inches
Heck ya! 💪
Small gas tank is 26 gal, extended is 36..... Buuut if you get the small gas tank they sell aftermarket extended, 40 and 45 gallons. I have a 36 gallon. Id love the 45 though 😅
Ageed! Dang, the F-150's have come a long way.Twin turbo is the game changer. Thanks man.
I drive the 6.0 F250 diesel...yeah, a lot of hate for this motor. All fixable 200k miles and loving it. With a few cheap mods (add-a-lead, front spring airbags, and chip retune) not a lot of money and it is a beast. I have a Leer shell with a clamshell RTT. With big trucks, as you have mentioned, throwing mechanics tools , recovery gear, bottle jacks, etc, why not? We have the space!
Rocking the same truck with fx4 package! I have downhill descent control so it doesn't seem like there's any cons for me. Love my truck
Oh I didn’t know the FX4 had that! You have the ultimate rig then!
i just got the 2024 stx 5.0 with the fx4 and dark appearance pretty nice and comfortable
Don't forget about that power invertor!!! Love mine.
I have a lariat fx4 package. Got hill descent control. Have offroad gauges that tell me the angles the truck is sitting at. 4low,high,auto and locking diff
Awesome 💪
Oooh auto- center locking differential for road travel like GM Autotrac
All valid points. I liked my 2021 trd off road taco but it was so damn slow and small. Id take a full size truck any day. Thinking about a 2.7 f150.
Great video, I'm also 6'2 and I weigh 220 my dream vehicle is an F-250 Super Duty. 🤩
Good choice!
Got a lariat a that motor...that engine is a beast. You give it the beans and you leave in a hurry.
Ya it’s rocks!
As another person said below, your payload numbers seem to be off. You might report to us what your payload capacity is on your truck based on the door sticker. Then, I suggest you drive over a scale when loaded for a trip. You might be surprised at how close you are to your max payload. I was.
Two or more big guys in a "well appointed" F150, outfitted for "overlanding" and loaded for, say a one or two week camping or hunting trip and the vehicle will often be at or over GVWR before hooking up a trailer or adding 500 lbs of ice and elk meat. Or going up a tire size.
When I was shopping for a truck I was already a bit sensitive to payload because I knew the weight I was carrying in / on my 4Runner. It's surprising how fast it adds up.
Also, IIRC, the payload capacity assumes a starting point of that vehicle empty (no driver assumed) and potentially not even a full tank of gas (not sure on that).
Ford and others do a disservice by advertising payload figures that only exist in real life for low trim level vehicles appointed a certain way (like 2WD).
When I was shopping for a new truck about a year ago, I checked the door sticker for payload capacity on every truck I drove (they were mostly F150's, but also a couple of Ram PowerWagons which BTW have low payload capacity but are great offroading). The typical door sticker payload capacity for a higher trim level F150 was in the range of 1,200 lbs. for a mid-level truck it sometimes approached 1,500 lbs. Those are real life numbers.
One driver with "day gear" can easily eat up 200 lbs. Add in a "house battery" some electrical components, lighting, a 12 volt refrigerator and some type of top for the bed of the truck, maybe a Ham radio, cooles, ice, water, various comfort items or toys etc. etc. and payload goes up FAST. I can say from experience that it is easy to tack on at least 1,000 lbs of payload with two guys and their gear and a bunch of the stuff folks use for car camping these days (umm, "overlanding"). I've gone over 1,000 lbs by myself (but carrying enough gear for 3 people).
Yup, I've driven over-payload and lived to admit it, but I don't want to make it a habit and I recommend avoiding it. Especially if you're adding a trailer on top of everything else. A "light" 5,000 lb trailer can easily have ANOTHER 500 lbs of tongue weight. Add that to a vehicle that is already pushing max payload and you may have some explaining to do in a vehicle accident situation.
I ended up buying a Ford Super Duty largely due to the limited payload of the F150's. Not the only reason...but that was a major reason. Mine happens to be a Super Duty Tremor, so it handles 35" tires easily. I'm happy with my decision.
Great looking truck. People totally overlook the full-size for a lot of reasons that really don’t make sense or are invalid.
You hit in a couple of key points. Much better fuel capacity AND better fuel economy. More space. Comfort!
With a Tacoma, you go up in tire size and add stuff to the bed, you’ve totally maxed out what that truck can do. Gears, suspension, major money.
A half ton eats it up no problem, especially Ford. Highest payload.
Appreciate you watching the video! Thanks
If you like this full size ford with the 3.5 ecoboost, you would love the powerboost hybrid with the 7.2 kw propower onboard generator. I think that would be the lick for an overlander. I LOVE mine and the extra power it has. Check it out, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.
I have a 2019 F-150 Lariat with the 5.0, they do have hill descent btw!
Full send on the full size. After children, it was the best option for me.
I agree ☝️
Great looking truck! I absolutely love that color. I just started looking into f-150s myself, I came to the same conclusion that you did. I was looking into the stats, fuel mileage around 20, available 36 gallon tank, talk about a long range! I also like that these are available with the rear locker on pretty much any trim level, and I looked at the ratios, and these actually have a much better crawl ratio than the Toyotas. If I recall correctly, the 4Runner and the Tacoma are about 33:1, with the 373 gearing. The F-150 is 46: 1. I currently have a 4Runner, and I was considering building it, but truth is I really don't enjoy driving it long distances, and even stock I can barely hit 20 MPG. I thought I was going to make the 4Runner into more of a trail rig, but that's not really what I want to do, so I think the full size pickup would suit those needs better.
You got it! Totally agree
man i want a friggin f250 rig to be able to tow while still enjoying overlanding; CJC offroad witht he carli kings and everything will be my route but i currently drive a bmw coupe so its time to add a vehicle with some space. love the rig!
Thanks!
My dads truck is a 6.5 ft bed but i drove my buddys truck with the 5.5 and it feels so much easier to drive the wheels base makes the truck feel way smaller
Ya it’s such a toss up… I think the 5.5 looks better as well
All that electronic off-road stuff is mostly advertising/gimicks, the big thing is lockers. lockers. lockers. lockers. And yeah, nice truck. I wanted an F-150 or tundra, but after found the price with options I wanted, went with a 23' Frontier pro4x.
Ya I never used those features in my speced out Tacoma. 4x4, 4x4L and a rear locker works just fine
(@ 10:30-ish) You've come across as if the f150 does not have crawl-control, hill decent, etc like the Tacoma when that is not a (f150/full size truck) issue but rather options that you did not choose for your truck. I'm not sure if it is part of the FX Off-Road package or the Tremor package, but f150 does have it. (intended for constructive criticism, not meaning to nitpick)
9:23 you have way too much trust in the general public man. I love the keypad too, it’s super useful, but don’t tempt fate by leaving the keys in the car. Regardless if someone can guess the keypad code, a brick and 10 seconds of rummaging around is all it takes.
Don’t feel like you need to feel paranoid, but… this would be like leaving the deed to your home and your social security information in your house just in a drawer because you lock your doors at night.
Stay safe man, love the build, gave me a lot of great ideas!
Very nice. Did you consider the 3.5 ltr hybrid Powerboost, and if so, why this over that? The Powerboost seems to have many advantages and no disadvantages. including more power, better mpg, and that 7.2 electric generator. I'm no expert, so would welcome your thoughts. I've wanted a Tremor but to get the Powerboost am consdering an XLT, Lariat or Platinum, likely w/ the FX4 package. My plan is to do a 2 1/2" - 3 1/2" level/lift, 35 tires, a little poke, and appropriate higher performing suspension mods. As for the bed, I'm considering a Diamondback HD bedcover or RSI Smartcap. It will be my daily driver, mobile home office w/ that fold out flat work surface and wifi hotspot or starlink, long distance road tripper & occasional overlander. A simple way to describe what I'm looking for is "A good looking, max luxury interior, go anywhere, any time, any kind of weather, vehicle. Thoughts on any of this too? Thanks. This was an excellent video, insightful and useful.
I bought my truck in 2021 and the Powerboost was brand new at that point. A brand new truck wasn't in my budget so a 2019 with the 3.5 Ecoboost fit my needs better. Also, used or not any hybrid motor options is much more expensive.
But, I am not against the Powerboost at all. I have quite a few subs say they absolutely love it and the onboard power seems super cool.
@@coleeades Thanks. Any thoughts on my other comments above? By the way, I too would love 37's, but 35's are pretty darn good, and 35's can still fit in the spare tire spot under the bed, but I suspect 37's can not, except for the 37 package Raptor of course. I really appreciated your comments about what can be accomplished with after market suspension mods if one chooses. I just want that front torsion diff in the Tremor, and it's not available on any other model, but maybe it won't be all that useful, for me anyway, I don't know.
Ya I bet the Powerboost is a fantastic option. Tremor is probably a good option for someone who isn't going to change up the suspension, lift or wheels. If you are going to change any of those you are then paying just to take it all off. Lariat or Platinum is going to give you exceptional interior comfort and then you can do a suspension lift, wheels and 35's tires of your choice.
Everyone has different needs but if I was given the choice between a Diamondback cover and a Smartcap I would choose Smartcap 10/10 times. Having any sort of Tonneau cover limits your space to such a small area and it turns it into a black hole. Having the added height of a topper and having side access to your bed is a must for me now. I know in this video I have a tonneau cover setup but I have since switched to a truck camper and have never looked back. Even for someone who doesn't want a full truck camper I would still recommend a topper of any kind.
I agree that the full size truck is the way to go. The fact that you can get one for around the same price as a midsize with close to the same fuel economy and you get so much more truck and comfort. It's a no-brainer for me. I'm currently in a GMC, but my next one will be a Tundra to get that reliability... I don't want to rebuild this darn tranny for the third time!
Don’t blame you! I’m a big fan of the new tundras. They are sweet
I don't disagree that it's not worth getting but they definitely are not around the same price. A 4x4 F150 basically starts at $50k vs a Frontier/Tacoma starts around 37k.
Hey I am interested to hear what kind of set up you have in your center console? Specifically for your pistol in there. Thanks
For the pistol I just put velcro on my holster and inside the console. That way I can still draw it quick when needed.
Here’s a link for the center console organizer.
amzn.to/4fch001
standard fuel tank size on 19 f 150 is 26 gallons.
Thanks for the exact number 👍 26 isn’t actually that bad. Not great, but better than I had guessed.
2020 F150 XLT FX4 has a 2" factory lift, skid plates; 36 gal gastank; downhill assist. I think the shocks are heavier duty than non FX4. I replaced the tires to Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT. I pull a loaded 7800# car hauler... 5.0 V8-390HP/ 10SP TRANS/ 3.55 REAR... fuel 9.2mpg towing Michigan to North and South Dakotas' through the Black Hills.
@captseamus If you knee you was going to be pulling your trailer when you bought your F150 you would've been much better In the long run for many reasons to have got a F250. I hope the 150 will work out for you especialy going to the mountains like you said. Happy Trails!
@@captseamus FX4 package doesn't include a factory lift only Tremor does.
Did you notice much difference in power when upgrading to 35s? I'm also coming from a Tacoma with 33s (loved it but I live in Colorado where the lack of power at elevation was very annoying). Curious if you noticed much of a difference - I have the 3.5EB as well. Thanks!
When I bought the truck the previous owner already had 33” tires on so I didn’t notice a difference going to 35”. So I might not be the best guy to give you an answer on that. But I haven’t heard of anyone with that issue. The 3.5l is so powerful I doubt it has much of an impact
Since you have the 36 gallon tank I'm assuming you have the max tow package (I believe the two go hand in hand). What size wheels do you have? I have a 19 with max tow package and I want to put 17" wheels on it. I'm hearing from some that 17s wont work bc the rear caliper is too big and others say it will, just barely. Just wondering about your wheel size or if you know anything about 17s fitting?
17”s fit no problem. You should be totally fine. 👍
Cole - just found your channel…i really like it. I’m in Riverton but lived in Logan in earlier years. Can you tell me what you use for time deflation/inflation? Thanks for your videos.
You bet! Here’s some links. I use a rapid tire deflator and the M18 tire inflator.
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12:37 how do you have the handgun holster mounted in there?! I’m looking to do the same and can’t find any way to do so
@@Niegocki28 just Velcro onto the holster and side of the center console!
I love you truck! What gas mileage are you getting? I currently drive a tundra and considering making the switch
Thanks for watching! I average around 17mpg but in eco mode on a long drive I can usually get 19mpg.
I cant believe there is not a tremor longbed option
2024 F150XL 4x4 short bed
I have a 2018 f150 crew cab and I have a 6” rough country lift running 37s. I’m just getting into the overlanding scene looking forward to my first trip to northern Maine at the end of the month. How much do you air down your tires? I’ve been hearing around 20psi.
Most of it depends on if you have a 17” wheel or not. I run a 17” wheel on 35”s and I air down to 18-20psi. But I would feel comfortable all the way to 15psi or so without a beadlock. If you have anything bigger than a 17” wheel that number will change for sure
@@coleeades I’m running 20” wheels. 37” tires. What would you recommend for an air pressure?
You should be able to run 20psi no problem especially since a 37” tire is giving you more sidewall. Realistically both of us could run in the 12-15 psi range no problem but a general rule of thumb is to start at 20psi see how it rides/looks and maybe go down from there. Thats what I’ve done
Tacoma’s (at least the prior ones) are horrible for indoor room. Especially the back seat. My Gladiators had way more room in the back seat, for passengers at least. Especially rear leg room if you’re over six feet tall.
Ya no gear storage at all.
Not gonna lie, I've clicked on your video once before but, once you said turbo V6 in your entry part of your video i ejecto seato my self out lol!! buuut, decided to came back to see what you've done. over all opinion "sweet set up, great job".
Let me guess… you’re a 5.0 guy? Haha thanks for watching anyway 👍
@@coleeades trucks should be v8s plain and simple. im a 2020 Titan Pro-4x guy btw.
@@RS-VQ35Racingsorry for your loss
What are you doing to protect your paint on the trails?
I’m not. lol. I’ve got tons of scratches from top to bottom
Most tacomas have less than 1000 lb payload. My sport was 950. None have more than 1200.
Yes all need better rear leaf pack
From having a Toyota, why did you go with a Full size ford and not a full size Toyota like the tunda?
Only because the new Tundra hadn’t been announced yet. I’m not a fan of the old Tundras and at the time the specs of the F150 were miles better than the old tundra. But now I’m a huge fan of the new one
How are your phasers doing :/. Ford dealership tech here…..
Not great… have the infamous cam phaser rattle at startup. Any tips on what I should do about it?
@@coleeadeshold the brake pedal and gas on start up. This is called “flood mode” I believe and it circulates oil/pressure which should open the pin that gets stuck in the phaser.
Let it crank for a couple seconds before letting off the pedals and starting the truck
What kind of mpg's are you getting with 35s
16-17 normally. But if I put it in Eco mode on a road trip I can get 17-19
F150 payload is 1200-2000. Def not close to 3200 as stated in the video
With the 3.5 Ecoboost it is up to 3200. Quick google search will show that. Thank you for watching the video. I really appreciate it 👍
@@coleeades Yeah it's possible for up to 3270 in very specific F150 configurations but not on your truck that's a Supercrew, 4x4, and short box. In 2019 3230 is the max possible payload for 3.5EB only when in a regular cab 2x4 long box AND equipped with the pretty rare heavy duty payload package that brings the GVWR up to 7850. The max possible payload in a supercrew 4x4 short box with 3.5 (your truck) is 2030 pounds or 7000 GVWR meaning your truck in base XL trim weighs 4970 with no options or accessories added. Payload is unique to each truck based on what's added to it and that number is on the "tire and loading info" sticker inside the driver's door. Being an XLT with some options your payload will be lower than that probably around 1700-1900 pounds. Ford has a chart that breaks down payload based on engine, drive type, cab and bed type (wheelbase), and max GVWR.
Ill pass on a dual turbo v6 in a full size truck
So you prefer less performance or just concerned about complexity? Compared to bigger push-rod V8's that were designed over 100 years ago, modern turbo gas truck engines are smaller, lighter, more powerful, faster, tow more weight, superior at high altitude and extreme temperatures, pollute less, easier and quieter to tow with, create peak torque very low in the rpm range similar to a turbo diesel. Which is exactly what a truck needs and why all big trucks use turbo engines.
@@SkylarRace considering over 100k recalls on the tundra....yeah ill pass my guy
@@SkylarRace 24 tundra and Tacomas are lemons and overpriced. You can buy it if you want I'll be taking my money elsewhere.
@@SkylarRace let me know when those turbos fail and your bill to replace them. I'm a mechanic I know better 😂
@@sozoxd3754 I am as well. Toyota Tundras first and second year failures have nothing to do with turbos it’s a manufacturing error. Fords turbos are going well over 300,000 miles easy with no major repairs.
My f150 is fucking pinstriped and scratched up up where are you off-roading g?
Mines also pinstriped like crazy. Utah & Idaho mostly
@ wow I can’t tell.
I’m debating whether or not to even paint correct.
I should’ve gotten ppf on the black door plastic it’s really nasty looking.
PA VA MD here
Cool truck… but this is the mid-size
Former military?
No, I am not.
I rather have a non turbo 5.0! More reliability and durability! Less maintenance and cost!
I've heard nothing but good things about the 3.5 tbh. People say it's one of the most reliable engines Ford ever made and can easily hit 250k+ without issues.
I had a 15 5.0 mustang and 18 5.0 f150 and I had nothing but problems out of the motor. 18 was the worse. Very bad type writter idle, finicky knock sensor, and would eat 1-2 qts of oil between 3k mile oil changes. The sad part it's very common all the way up to 2020MY
It is proven the 3.5 is less reliable than the 5.0?
@@Billothy69 say what lol? You’re probably first person I ever heard say that.
@@ripesince88 really? I've heard it a lot from several people. Not uncommon to get over 300k
Bro what do you do for work
I run the media for a company called Adrenalin Industries. Social media, UA-cam, Web, etc.
I gotcha man. Cool, I enjoy the setup
@@desperado5897 thanks man!
5.5 bed better for off-road .. but I’d never buy one .
"Full Size"
It is technically classified as a full size even though heavy duty pickups are larger.
@@The_Top_Gun. Really? I didn't know that. I always think of trucks in "tonnage" 1/2 ton, 3/4, 1 ton, 2.5 ton.
I think I've heard the 1/4 ton before but it's less common, maybe anything that has tonnage is full size
From reliable dependable and killer longevity to go with something to work on 4 times as much.. 🤔 no logic good luck with the 6 banger eco boooooost
Now that toyota isn’t selling trucks from the 1990s their reliability is pretty questionable 😂
Cole you made some good points! But i need to correct you on something you said several times that you are wrong about. Cole your truck is Not a Full size truck it is a Midsize truck! A full size truck has a 8 ft. bed not 6.5 or smaller. What you explained bout you and your truck your Midsize truck is good for you and i am glad! Ive got a 2 Full size trucks but for me your truck cant do the things i do and it wouldnt hold up but for you it works and thats all that matters. Ive got one truck that is a 1988 GMC Ext cab K2500 with 30 gal tank 8 ft bed that takes 40 acres to turn it around. My main truck is a 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 single cab 8ft bed with 30 gal tank and a Factory 3 and a half inch lift on it with a 5 speed trans and my 88 has a 4 speed Bull dog trans in it. Both are great trucks and my Dodge only has 138000 miles on it and looks and runs like brand new. I dont have all the fancy buttons like yall have but that makes it more fun and i can turn my Dodge on a dime. But i have a raised roof topper on my Dodge and in process making a truck camper out of of it and just got a old 13 ft camper throwed on me im fixing to strip down to make a overland trailer out of it and thats where a 2500 comes in to handle the load with no problems. I like your truck and set up but for me i wouldnt trade my old trucks for a brand new NO WAY! I hope you dont get mad but you have a Midsize truck NOT full size truck! Take care and Happy Trails!!!
Appreciate you watching the video! Everything on Google says the F150 is a Full Size truck. So you might have to take it up with Google! Haha, glad you are enjoying your current trucks. Have fun out there!
@@coleeadesWell they are wrong but nothing for me to get upset about! If you want to I will prove they are wrong so I will give you a fun challenge! I will cut a load of firewood and I will get one of my buddies with a F150 or 1500 ,half ton like yours to make it fair, with a 8 ft bed. We will load the 8ft bed with the firewood full and then you bring yours or one like yours with a short bed F150 and we will load the same wood off the 8 ft bed and put in your 6.5 bed and if your truck holds the same load and safe to go down the road without fallen off I will admit I am wrong and apologize like a man and will give you that load of wood and you will have a whole lot of free firewood! Just because says something don't mean they are always right!!! Don't take this the wrong way but you go find any farmer, rancher or country folks in your truck and ask any of them is your truck a full size truck and you will get your right answer from the experts not computers that only knows what somebody told it to say from people who most has never even drove a pickup of any size. Let me know if I need to start cutting a load of wood buddy but you get the wood free if I'm wrong but you have to buy or frill me a nice steak supper when I prove you and Google is wrong and then we will shake hands and we will go get in the mud have some more fun!
@@Tommy-rr7ezFull size = half ton and up, dpshtt; it has 0 to do with bed length, champ..
Dunning-Kruger strikes AGAIN.
@lockandloadlikehell Well I'm not going to call you no names but you keep thinking that ok and I will keep knowing the accurate info and we will both be happy as least I will!
@@Tommy-rr7ezfull size and mid size trucks have nothing to do with bed size my guy.
F150 is mid size. Taco is compact, 2500/f250 is full size.
I dislike that it's a ford...
Nobody asked😂
@ryandexter7199 😂
6ft bed minimum is a must regardless of midsize/fullsize. Need to able to lay day flat an sleep in it. An need to able to carry stuff.