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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2023
  • Episode 1619
    Untold hours looking at these circuits
    link: www.rsp-italy.it/Electronics/...
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  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla 10 місяців тому +18

    One of my prized possessions, along with Bob Pease's book on troubleshooting analog circuits!

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc 10 місяців тому +4

      Anything by Bob Pease highly recommended

  • @curtkeisler7623
    @curtkeisler7623 10 місяців тому +4

    "Somehow it followed me home officer"

  • @analoghardwaretops3976
    @analoghardwaretops3976 10 місяців тому

    A.N.xx and L.B.xx (linear briefs) ..in this book.
    What I learnt and applied from these....., was much more than any class tutorial...besides it was always there to fall back for quick reference.😊

  • @IanScottJohnston
    @IanScottJohnston 10 місяців тому +7

    I remember a shelf full of those particular books, and including the Ti books. Learned a lot from them!

    • @jim9930
      @jim9930 10 місяців тому +2

      I fondly remember the days when sales reps were eager to drop off the latest data book. The fountain of innovation is knowing what parts are available... My boss asked me why I chose one guy over another; I said "he asked to see our engineering library" SOLD

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc 10 місяців тому

      Where I worked there was a huge library (and even a librarian!) with every book from every component manufacturer, and also complete set of reference books of design guidelines for us all to follow. When the Internet came along in the early 90s was the writing on the wall.

    • @jim9930
      @jim9930 10 місяців тому +1

      @@jagmarc National Semiconductor gained their dominance by distributing data freely, other manufacturers took the hint in the '80s. Japanese manuals were the hardest to get (language barrier) and they had some great products not made by anyone else. I was on the 'space coast' of Florida, aerospace companies galore... and parts houses to match. We built RF test equipment for land mobile radio, SMR, 1rst gen cellular, and some special military and aviation contracts.

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc 10 місяців тому +1

      About that time as I recall using Japanese components was a challenge because of the way they monopolise in every stage they can, I remember a colleague lamented how had to pay for a development license and buy in special tooling and pay this and that, and something about the early SMD parts were only compatible with Panasonic assembly line. Well done Arizona Microchip "PIC" for making everything free.
      One great thing though about Japanese has always been their high quality product Service Manuals for consumer electronics.

  • @johnwest7993
    @johnwest7993 10 місяців тому +2

    Since some techs, (when I was a young CB radio installer back in 1975,) didn't have any college education in electronics, (like me,) the engineer who interviewed me for my first tech job had asked me, "If you wanted to design a timer circuit, where would you look for reference information?" My response was, "Section 4, page 35 of the National Semiconductor Linear Applications manual. But I wouldn't bother, because I already know the pinouts for both the monostable and astable versions of the chip." He went over to his bookshelf, pulled out the National linear ref, turned to that page and said, "You're hired." I'd just spent 2 weeks building such a circuit for a friend, with that book sitting open to that page in front of me the whole time because I knew very little electronics. So it was the only chip I knew anything whatsoever about. I retired years later from SONY as an R&D tech, having spent my tech career at companies like HP, IBM, TRW, and SONY. But that particular question got me my start in the electronics industry.
    I kept one handy till long after I retired. But now I look up chips online.

  • @pcwrangler09
    @pcwrangler09 10 місяців тому +2

    I have Texas Instrument's version of these data books. Great reference.

  • @scottsmith5048
    @scottsmith5048 10 місяців тому +5

    I have a very early edition of National's Linear Applications Databook, it was actually two separate volumes and represented all ICs as circles rather than the standard Op Amp symbols we use today.

  • @pvc988
    @pvc988 10 місяців тому +16

    Imagine big companies educating people how their devices operate and how to use them instead of throwing makers, hobbyists and repair people into jail for IP, copyright, NDA or whatever else infringement.

    • @sparkee3729
      @sparkee3729 10 місяців тому +4

      They do. Look up what "application engineering" is lol

    • @David_Hogue
      @David_Hogue 10 місяців тому +1

      Big companies put out tons of documentation. Many of the devices would be worth much less without developers.

    • @pvc988
      @pvc988 10 місяців тому

      ​@@David_Hogue ehm… Sony, ehm… Apple, ehm… Nvidia (those got a little bit better recently), ehm John Deere, ehm… Tesla, ehm… BMW

    • @David_Hogue
      @David_Hogue 10 місяців тому

      @pvc988 big companies still put out documentation. Yeah it sucks that John Deere tries to lock things down. Doesn't mean Nvidia doesn't have copious documentation. Apple has tons of documentation of APIs. It would be nice if they did better at hardware documentation, they do have repair kits now because they don't want to be legislated. This video is about a company selling components that they want you to use, they want the interface to be easy to use so you buy their stuff. That hasn't changed.

  • @mariomionskowski6223
    @mariomionskowski6223 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the link.

  • @chongli297
    @chongli297 10 місяців тому +1

    Love the book recommendations!

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 10 місяців тому +6

    Very nice. I never had one of these but I still regret throwing away my TI TTL Data Book around the end of the 1990s... I mean, all of it is still available online, but having a book to just idly flick through was so good.

    • @jimomertz
      @jimomertz 10 місяців тому +1

      I have mine! I just looked. Love that book.

  • @user-eg3yv3xr7s
    @user-eg3yv3xr7s 10 місяців тому +1

    I will be on the hunt for this book, it will make a great addition to my reference library.

  • @bayareapianist
    @bayareapianist 10 місяців тому +1

    I how the big pile of Intel data books. When I was moving in early 90s, I left them outside my apartment. A few hours later all of them were gone.

  • @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
    @jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 10 місяців тому +1

    I love analog circuits books.

  • @Stevie_D
    @Stevie_D 10 місяців тому +1

    I have this very book, and interestingly I previously put a marker flag at AN-31. I actually have a series of National Semiconductor application data books from the 70's through the early 90's. Not sure where I found all of them, but I do remember finding one of them at the bottom of a used book pile in a local bookstore in Worchester MA many years ago!

  • @nickcaruso
    @nickcaruso 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for posting the link to the PDF! I kind of want to own a print copy but the pdf is probably more useful in reality...

  • @analoghardwaretops3976
    @analoghardwaretops3976 10 місяців тому

    The discrete Digital PLL circuit by R.Pease( BOB) was one of my fav.😅

  • @cougar1861
    @cougar1861 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for the link!!!

  • @tfrerich
    @tfrerich 10 місяців тому +1

    I remembered staring at those app notes years ago, but I lost the book when changing interests reduced its immediate appeal and various moves led to downsizing. Recently I've retired and returned to my love of analog (tired of computers). As I was reshelving my older books, I kept looking for those app notes I remembered. I couldn't find them. I was beginning to think I had dreamed up their existence.
    Thank you for showing us this volume. It calmed my worry about suffering from a strange dementia. I was able to find a physical copy online and expect it to be delivered in a few days. Now I get to look forward to spending several days revisiting all those fascinating application notes.

    • @joeteejoetee
      @joeteejoetee 10 місяців тому

      e-bay is the last recourse - I hope you find the books that you are looking for.

  • @knarf802
    @knarf802 10 місяців тому

    i love this book, fantastic.

  • @jp040759
    @jp040759 10 місяців тому

    I have a set of these National Semiconductor books from 1983 if I recall, But, the best ones I have are hardbound Texas Instrument books which included 7 volumes I think.

  • @David_Hogue
    @David_Hogue 10 місяців тому

    I love books. I just picked up The Way Things Work (the one with the mammoth) as a reminder of childhood curiosity. And the Pocket Ref. Not a lot of electronics in either, but still fun to leaf through.

  • @ebrombaugh
    @ebrombaugh 10 місяців тому +1

    Still have one. A bit earlier vintage than yours. Spent so many hours leafing through it.

  • @RideGasGas
    @RideGasGas 10 місяців тому

    Had one, TI, National, and others used to hand them out regularly. Over time and moves most of mine have been consigned to the recycle bin once I moved up through the ranks and stopped doing design work regularly.

  • @uni-byte
    @uni-byte 10 місяців тому +1

    Gold.

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc 10 місяців тому

    This reminds me of another great and forgotten source for learning the fastest way when back in the 70s and 80s. It's in the Service Dept of the largest consumer electronics retailer in the UK. There was well maintained large library (no librarian unfortunately) of consumer product Service Manuals for everything, nearly each manual a treasure trove of high quality explanation how every circuit works and clear and concise guides how to use test equipment. I would say learn faster than applications by chip manufacturers because of real products only a few years behind the state of the art.

  • @SerialNumber-jm1sg
    @SerialNumber-jm1sg 10 місяців тому

    Greetings! I never heard of that books. Only Tietze,Schenk, Horowitz,Hill.
    Its interesting to have a look.
    Best regards

  • @SkyhawkSteve
    @SkyhawkSteve 10 місяців тому

    I dumped a lot of data books over the years, but the NSC linear books were keepers. I still have the '82 Linear Databook, the '88 Linear Databook vol 1 & 2, the '89 Special Purpose Linear Devices Databook, and the '91 Linear Applications Handbook. I can't imagine how many hours I've spent reading them!

  • @TheGmr140
    @TheGmr140 10 місяців тому

    The art of electronics is the real masterpiece, especially the 3rd edition 😂😂

    • @IMSAIGuy
      @IMSAIGuy  10 місяців тому

      yes, I've covered it in other videos:
      ua-cam.com/video/OBNl-6nFyL0/v-deo.htmlsi=9B9o-M5ycPAXy4TY
      ua-cam.com/video/5TGFhZrRt5I/v-deo.htmlsi=3Bo9c1ihQWReZPiJ

  • @dean6860
    @dean6860 10 місяців тому

    Still have a bunch of National Semi books. Also have books by Pease, Jim Williams, and Others NS folks.

  • @mmaranta785
    @mmaranta785 10 місяців тому

    Linear Technology has some good ones too

  • @davidv1289
    @davidv1289 10 місяців тому

    I still have my 1973 Linear Applications Handbook - $2.10 at Radio Shack (yes, it still has the price tag) I also have the linear, logic and cmos databooks from 1981 - 1982. Regards, David

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc 10 місяців тому +1

    Any applications book by Nat Semi , Fairchild , Motorola, Texas Instruments, Siliconix etc even Arizona Microchip all good for learning analog design engineering fast.
    "Linear Technology" in my opinion is good for learning how marketing and vanity gets in the way of engineering.

  • @Dennis-uc2gm
    @Dennis-uc2gm 10 місяців тому

    I can't ever just pick one these books up without going on from what I was trying to look up to spending the next 20 minutes or so just fascinated with everything else. Having the PDF is nice and compact but doesn't replace being able to flip through the pages for real. 👍

    • @IMSAIGuy
      @IMSAIGuy  10 місяців тому +1

      you need the feel of those thin pages

  • @mr1enrollment
    @mr1enrollment 10 місяців тому

    I don't think I still have one but they were great.
    I do have a complete set of Burr-Brown hard back books on OpAmp circuits though.
    While many techniques in the books are no longer required with modern OpAmps,
    the books remain inspirational.

    • @copernicofelinis
      @copernicofelinis 10 місяців тому +1

      Oh my, the golden books of burr brown? They are wonderful. There is one on photodiodes as well, and iirc it was mentioned by Bob Pease in one of his videos.

  • @KeritechElectronics
    @KeritechElectronics 10 місяців тому

    That's how you learned before Dave started EEVBlog :)
    Got a good bunch of real deal paper books on my shelf - including some academic textbooks, two vacuum tube catalogs, The Art of Electronics and some tube radio schematic catalogs. Not letting them go anytime soon.

    • @inductivethinking
      @inductivethinking 10 місяців тому +1

      Nah, there was a ton of information online way before eevblog existed...

    • @KeritechElectronics
      @KeritechElectronics 10 місяців тому

      @@inductivethinking true. And the net seemed to be a better place, at least in some aspects. I learned a lot of stuff from the Elliott Sound Products page, or Jogis Roehrenbude, or some other sites back in 2000s :)

  • @VoidHalo
    @VoidHalo 10 місяців тому

    So jealous. I only just got into electronics a few years ago. A bit late to the party, as I'm in my late 30s. As a result, I have no physical books on electronics, besides what I decided was worth printing, 3 hole punching 5 pages at a time and putting into a binder. I'd love so much to get my hands on even an old databook from TI, or a reference, like The Art of Electronics. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of money. As it is, I have to source my components from Aliexpress. Incidentally, I had no idea the logo for TI was a picture of the United States, rather than Texas. I guess the counterfeiters didn't know what Texas was.

    • @IMSAIGuy
      @IMSAIGuy  10 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/eBKRat72TDU/v-deo.htmlsi=0BMaQzvVsi8tJLLO

  • @joeteejoetee
    @joeteejoetee 10 місяців тому

    I love my data-book collection, and I feel sorry for this generation that has to use/view PDF files today.

  • @TakiEeixs
    @TakiEeixs 10 місяців тому +1

    Teach us complex circuit analyses tricks please🥰🥰

    • @intheshell35ify
      @intheshell35ify 10 місяців тому

      V=IR
      KVL
      KCL
      That's all you need. Patience and an analytical mind set will help. You have to put pen to paper, not just stare at other people's math. Oh yeah, it's math but the easy kind. A little light algebra and some trigonometry.

  • @VinceWaldon
    @VinceWaldon 10 місяців тому

    Mine's gone missing, must have lent it out, but it was the bible for sure back in the day.

  • @johnsmith-lb4mo
    @johnsmith-lb4mo 10 місяців тому

    Spent many a happy hour building these demo circuits only to find they didn't work as expected lol

  • @mmaranta785
    @mmaranta785 10 місяців тому

    I think the 1982 one is the thickest, or maybe that’s the databook

  • @slm60uk
    @slm60uk 10 місяців тому

    Looks interesting. Can you include the *Link to the PDF* please.

    • @IMSAIGuy
      @IMSAIGuy  10 місяців тому

      www.rsp-italy.it/Electronics/Databooks/National%20Semiconductor/_contents/National%20Semiconductor%20Linear%20Applications%20Handbook%201994.pdf

  • @rfburns5601
    @rfburns5601 10 місяців тому +2

    Link Please? I searched around, and downloaded some others, but did not find this one. Thanks.

    • @Manf-ft6zk
      @Manf-ft6zk 10 місяців тому

      google: "linear applications handbook pdf"
      NationalSemiconductorLinearApplicationsHandbook1994_text-1.pdf

    • @dxingindia8282
      @dxingindia8282 10 місяців тому

      link in description

    • @rfburns5601
      @rfburns5601 10 місяців тому

      @@dxingindia8282 Wasn't there yesterday. I've downloaded it now.

  • @dean6860
    @dean6860 10 місяців тому

    Here is a NS Poster attached ...please don't be offended ..... see A Widlar Poster For The Ages ...